September 17, 2024 • 21 mins
The Secret Life of OF Star With A 'Pay Pig' Who Begs Her To Drain His Bank Account
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Robin and Chit Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, Grace, where in the world do we find you?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm in Melbourne this morning, dreary, gray, rainy Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And yet you look like you're in summer a your bahamas. Yes, Spinky, okay.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
We've just been reading your your story, Grace. This is incredible.
So so you're you're an only fans, only fans.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Person model Water the Water Model creator.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
And so you do normal normal in Vertigoma's only fans
things where people I guess, So what is normal the men?
For someone who's never never had an account or understand
how it works, what happens men is that all men contact.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have some women. I've had some women along the way.
Obviously majority of it is men.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's kind of like an Instagram feed, but you can
monetize it. So you've got like a feed, and once
you subscribe, you basically gain access to that feed, which
can be you can post anything you like. You can
post a bikini picture up into a sex tape if
you want. You can should post anything in between, whatever
you're comfortable with. So I post topless but nothing more
on the feed. Very teasy, kind of racy photos and suggestive,
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but then the more explicit content.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Happens in the dms.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You've got your dms which are locked if you I mean,
you can put a price on it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You can also make them free if you like.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But most of the time you'd lock a mass message
and you send that out to all your fans and
they can choose to unlock that to see more explicit content,
and they can also request like custom videos. Obviously I'm
very kink friendly as well, so it's really you can
do a lot with it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, So how did you get started?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I started in Lockdown when I was a really broke receptionist,
a hotel receptionist, and I was sick of feeling like
I couldn't even afford to eat dinner, like I was
just so broke. I was also my sisters had already
kind of two sisters, they had already kind of gone
the adult industry road, and I'd been kind of seeing
their success, and I was very interested in if I
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could be successful. So I started with no expectations and
very very quickly, very very quickly blew up and I
made a million dollars my first year. It very quickly
took my hotel salary. Obviously I quit that job, and
I just never expected to be so successful, but it
just blew up within like the first year.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Long, how long did it take to make big money?
Like you say a million in a year, but like,
was it like the first month? Were you making big money?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
First month?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I made like a ten thousand dollars I think, considering
I made three thousand a month at my hotel job.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, and how far did
you go? Like how explicit was the content because I'm
guessing you made that that money from the dms? Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? So first year it was actually just solo content.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So now I make content like sex Tape boy Girl
with other girls, like I make very like a lot
of different types of content.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Now, But at the start, it was just solo me
on my own.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So I made most of my money in the first
year literally just from my own content, and it was
not as explicit as it is now. Obviously I've been
in here for five years, so it's kind of developed
over to.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's gone up and the ante has gone up.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But yeah, it was just locked messages of myself just
having a great time.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So now that you're doing sex tapes and things like that.
Do you still differentiate yourself from a porn star who
effectively doesn't true.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, that's a great question. I was actually speaking this
to a friend the other day.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't consider myself a porn star, even though I
know that, like people call me that and you could
think of that. I think because my content create is
more exclusive, Like I have an exclusive fan base.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's not on the internet public for free.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's not just like on a website you have to subscribe,
you have to you know, you talk to me, we
develop a sort of a relationship on that page together,
and so I kind of differentiate that between a porn star,
where in my eyes, a porn start. This might be
different for everyone is having sex with a bunch of
different people, maybe people you're meeting on the day, Like
you kind of like don't really know, like you're maybe
got management telling you what to do. It's all on me,
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unmowned boss. I choose whatever I do. Actually, I only
make sex scepts with partners like boyfriends. So it's very
like for me, it's very exclusive. It's still a very like.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Personal thing that I'm sharing with the world.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's not like I'm out here having sex with a
bunch of brandow people and filming and putting up on
porn hub.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So for me, that is the difference.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's an interesting sentence though, a personal thing that you're
sharing with the world.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah. Yeah, it's very personal, but it's like a snapshot
into I guess my real sex life.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So do you You'll get requests and then you consider
what that request is. Is that how you know some
of the content is actually decided upon.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I get a lot lot of customer requests. Actually
have to go film three today, But basically they can
be as normal as a lot lot of the time.
It's just like a stripped tease, maybe a toy saying
someone's name. That's like the most common requests. But then
I've got up until you know, very very different requests.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I've got someone who wants me to feed my belly
my belly with pasta. So there's all different types. So
I just choose it. I'm comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
How much is that worth to them? Do they put
a figure on that?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So a custom video for me would be probably about
five hundred us five.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Minutes, right, Wow, what do you have to do? His
feed your belly button with past it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Seriously, I know, look at that's that's the one I'm
looking forward to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've great.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And speaking of unusual requests, this is the one that
brought you to our attention. This guy Dave, who is
a pay pig who you have control of his accounts.
You have control of his bank account and what he loves,
what he gets off is you draining his account? Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, that's correct. So it started about three years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I think I had never heard of It's called findom
So financial domination.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'd actually ever heard of it before this.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I was. I was kind of pleasantly surprised when I
found out what it was. Yeah, he messaged on Instagram
and I didn't believe him at the start, and then
it just kind of took off from that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
How much money do you think you've taken out of
his accounts over the last three years?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I would say it was definitely close to fifty thousand dollars, Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
My roundabout about fifty thousand dollars. And he wants that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He loves it, and if I don't do it, he
actually begs me. He literally send me a messages and
saying please, grace please, Like I'm just please, I want
this so much, and I have to keep saying like
sometimes I'm like I can't busy, or you know, I'll
do it tomorrow, and then he's begging me. So it's
this constant like he just wants it so bad, and
I'm the mean person for saying no.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't understand what that looks like. So he sends
you a DM and says what he would just say.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He calls me goddess or master, so I called him
slave and on pay pig, and so he would just
basically say, hey, Grace, please drain me, please drain my
bank account.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
At the start, it was him.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Sending me money via like PayPal and Beaman and different
like pay kind of apps and stuff. But now obviously
I gained access to his bank account and gave me
the passwords everything I've Actually, he begged me to lock
him out for periods of time.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
He didn't have access to his own account.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, so I had it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I made sure he had enough access on his card
that he could go pay for fuel and stuff like that.
Like I've never wanted to take too much from him.
I always wanted to make sure he could live his
life with this fetish but I have definitely locked him
out for a few weeks, I believe at the longest,
until he eventually cracked and he was like, I actually
(07:57):
need access, and I was like, all the side.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So is he a super rich guy? What does he
do for a living that this is my knowledge?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, I think he's a teacher. I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We don't talk about his personal life, like it's very
much off the table for talking about it. But from
the three years, I think he is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So you have no idea if he's married, kids, if
this if he's my age, he's my age. Okay, so
this fetish isn't impacting other people.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, he's not married, he's I think he's twenty five.
I think he's just a tiny bit younger than me.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And did he get anything sexually out of it? Like
do you have to send him videos nude or anything like?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, So he loves my butt. That's like he's one thing.
He's like the biggest. He loves my butt. So whenever
I kind of am taking or draining or wanting something,
I will just send him a little reward. Depends on
actually how much I'm taking. Sometimes I'm just like no, no,
because the whole point is that you're lucky that I'm
even talking to you. You're lucky that I'm even draining
your book out. I'll coul choose someone else. You're lucky,
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So that kind of premise. But I will send him
like a picture or give him a free link to
my only fans because he doesn't always I don't let
him subscribe, so I decide when he subscribes to that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Wow, and you just take his money and he's and
he loves it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you have to have a contract?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Because what happens if the police said, hey, you're taking
money from this man?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, look, I just screenshot everything, so I make sure
I want to. I say, you have to tell me
on text that you give me full permission to your
bank account when you give me the password.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Like, and then I screenshot that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I've got heaps of screenshots of him basically saying
please do this, I'll give you full permission, blah blah
blah blah. So I did think about that though, I
was like, can I am I allowed to log into
someone's can if you have full permission and the logins.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't ever want to try and intellectualize or understand
a finish, Like that's the whole point, right, it's a finish.
People do this weird stuff and that turns them on.
What about you, though, do you find this like, do
you have any sort of emotional attestment to it or
you we were literally just doing this because he's going
to pay you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean right now.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Because I've developed a relationship with him over like three years,
I do have like a sense of an emotional attachment
to him in terms of we talk almost every day.
But in terms of the draining, I find it really
fun and enjoyable. I probably wouldn't if I didn't think
he loved it, Like, I definitely think that would change
the feeling for me.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
For me, knowing that he.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Loves it and he's literally loving every second of it
and giving me the play by play, it does make
it a very enjoyable experience for me. It doesn't exactly
turn me on, but it kind of does almost in
a way, because when I do receive the money in
my bank account, it definitely is a little bit of
a oh, it's a little bit of a nice my
nice feeling. So I definitely I do enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Do you buy gifts for friends and things with that
with his account.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Ever, yes I have.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I have actually bought my friends quite a bit with
his money. I bought them like lingerie that they wanted.
I actually recently bought my friend like a bathrobe, like
just random stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Like a really nice one. But yeah, so I just
kind of like pick little things every now and then.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And does he care what you spend the money on?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
In fact, this is another thing he loves me telling people.
So he knows that I'm going on the reading this morning.
Oh he knows you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And he is obsessed with this. He literally like, I'm excited,
like tell them all how much I give you? So everyone.
He loves me talking about.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It because our producer, Scott, he's got two young kids
under five, and one of them has smashed his iPhone
and he said, could you ask Grace if she could
use the paypig's account to buy me a brand new
iPhone fifteen?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I could definitely log in and have a look and
see how has gotten paid.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
See if he's got because they're over a thousand bucks
now yeah right, she's doing it. Now do you want
to log in and see see if he's got enough?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I could try let me have a look.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
This is weird, this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is so weird. Make us like conspirators to the fetish.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I mean, no, I love it. I love you guys
are very I will have a look.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Sometimes if he's bad, bad, he changes the password because
he kind of freaks himself out, and then I have
to and then I have to make him tell me it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I'll check if he's changed it. Okay, probably once
every couple of.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Weeks because he freaks himself out, and then I have
to be like, I'm to give me the control again.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So now, so we're talking to Grace on Zoom for
those that are just hearing this on the radio. Grace
has got a phone out now and is logging into
Internet banking to see if I'm slave pig, pay pig
slave Dave. The pay pig has enough money in his
account to buy ap producer Scott to your new iPhone.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So he definitely has enough in here, yeah, and would
you So what has to happen now for that transaction?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I would have to tell him what I'm going to do,
so I do like the loop and then it would
just go through. But he would basically have to create
his budget around an expense.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So because he's.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Not like that wealthy, I still have to it for
him and make sure he can kind of live his
own bills, pay for fuel stuff like that. But I
would just say I'll probably give him at the start
of the month's things, and I think I'm wanting and
then we see how that just specially works into his budget.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, I kind of like half of me just
wants to go, how do you feel about that? That
sounds awful? But this is a grown man paying for
you to do just that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I know, it's kind of it is kind of
shocking to me, and I still sometimes can't believe it
is such a fetish. And it is a very actually
a very popular fetish. I didn't even know, Like it's
not just as one guy. There's there's a community of
people who love Finder and love to be financially.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Happened to them in their chart or did they not
get pocket money?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't actually really wonder that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't think I actually asked him directly, like why
do you think this is your fetish?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But I'm so curious as well.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
As someone who's been divorced twice, I know what it's
like to have a woman drain my accounts.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
For the privilege, and I did not enjoy it. Probably, Well,
how long do you think this will go on for?
And have you ever met him in public?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, so I have never met him, but he has
said he's seen me out because I know he lives
in Melbourne, so I definitely have. He's told me he's
seeing me out and about in the city and he
said he was too scared to come up to me.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So for me, this.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Will go on for as long as we're both happy
and comfortable with it. Like if he obviously gets a
partner one day and blah blah blah, it might change
the whole dynamic and it might eventually just fizzle out
and end because I don't want to be impacting someone's
actual personal life for other people involved as well. Ok
I like that he is single, but yeah, he has
seen me a few times and just said he's too scared.
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But his ultimate dream, he always tells me that he
wants to take me to an ATM, give me his
bank card, get me to take all of his money out,
and then he wants me to stomp on his back.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Stomp on his back.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's like a bit of a dominant like so he's lying.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
He's lying on the ground and you stomp on him
and then walk away with.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Laying on the ground. And he was like, and you
can pull the money on me if you want.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
If it's not okay, do not do that in front
of anyone that can arrest your grace. Maybe if he's
seeing you a couple of times like is he stalking
(15:24):
you think so?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You think?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It does feel very It's like I kind of like
think of a little as a friend as well. We
have obviously a dynamic where it's very much like it
is like a sense of a role play as well,
like I'm the master and the goddess and he is
the slave in the paper. And there's definitely that's strict dynamic.
But sometimes it does crack a little bit, and we
do have a normal conversation about things, but it is
on the rarestide.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
What would you talk about like a normal what are
you watching on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Like actually he gives me movie recommendations all the time,
like you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And I was like, wow, what about like not like AFL.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Like yeah, he always responds to my stories whenever I
go out anywhere on Instagram, So we always kind of
like talk about what I'm doing in the day, but
it will usually lead back to the Finndom kind of
sense or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, he just loves He just loves saying it's so hot,
You're just so hot?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, wow, do your parents know what you do?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They know what I do to a point. I don't
think that they know I even make sex tapes or anything.
I think they know I take like naked photos. I
think that that's probably as far as they know. They
definitely would not know about NDAL. They do not know
the extent, but they know the opportunities that arise, like
they know this morning, and they know like different opportunities
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But I don't think we've really.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Ever had an in depth conversation because they're very religious,
so I.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Keep it they are.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And you mentioned that your sisters are also in their
sex industry. Yes, that's how does that happen if you've
got a religious family and then all the three daughters
are all in the sex game.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, that's the that's the interesting part, isn't it. My
poor dad, My little sister actually started.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Off as a stripper when she was eighteen.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
My older sister the same, So they kind of do
a little bit of a different realm of work.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm the only one that does online only fans online
adult like work.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
To compare financially, the three the three gigs, who makes
the most money?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I do?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, well and truly well and truly.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm a hard worker.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah. Why wouldn't they switch then? Seeing how much you
make doing this, why wouldn't they switch from their their
roles into yours?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Actually, I trying to help them, so I actually like
sometimes I tell my sister, I'm like, give me a logins,
I'm logging into you and I'm setting up all this stuff.
I mean to respond to your dms like I would
just sometimes like just kind of like get her a
little bit head started, and then.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
She never she never up keeps it, so to give up.
I'm just like my own life to live. You, I
just you do it?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay. Wow, Well it's it's such an education, and you know,
like your totally in control of your life, your.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Finances and Dave's finances.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And does it impact your relationships?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, I'm single currently. It definitely did impact my last relationship.
I wouldn't I would say, I probably kept it on
the DLL a little bit more I would. I didn't
want to talk about it with him because he would
get a little bit triggered by it, which I kind
of understand. But at the same time, I didn't use.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That money to buy us like dinners and stuff, so
I kind of was like, well that.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Just and Dave would know that, like that you paid
for dinner with He paid for your dinner with your boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, he loved because he thought I would be talking
about him.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah right, I can now before we let you go,
Scotty is losing his mind because we haven't worked out
what we're going to do with his iPhone.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Tell Scott, you have to message me budget and I
can order it for it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Okay, just message the only fans girl. Your wife would
be thrilled, Scotty.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeahs close your eyes, don't look at the thie.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's right, cameras hang on.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Can you know he's on the he's on the wrong
run in Scottie, because we get Scotty on the mic
here so that he can.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So if you're if he's a pap, does that make
you my sugar mama, Scotty, I feel like I feel
like I feel responsible for Grace and this guy sounds
like he's like a lunatic. And then I want to
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know what happened in his childhood.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now I'm curious, did happen? Did you not get a pocket?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yes, get me on the phone. I'll give Dave a call, okay,
and we'll work it all out. I like it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm sure he wouldn't love that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Like, would he talk? Does he talk about his fetish?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think he's very It's funny.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He's a funny one because he'll kind of be so
confident and ballsy and be like, yeah, like I love it,
talk to your friends. And then when something like little
happens maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Sometimes there's different triggers.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He'll kind of freak himself out and you're like one
and be like, oh, I just it's a bit overwhelming,
and then like go offline for a day. So I
think he kind of freaks himself out with his own fetish.
He does love to talk about it, So I'd be.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Able to talk to him if he wants to. I
would be very intrigued to find out about love.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
To get him on the call, i'd have to like
brief him a little bit, but I would generally love
to like do another thing where I actually bring him
up and maybe even drain him online or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Wish like you have to be there too, otherwise it
feels weird.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And when if you just joined us, Grace said, drain
him live, but she means he's a count.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, I mean his bank account.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Guys the terminology and we.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thought some you're doing a video with Pastor fairly that's
kind of we talked about tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh yeah, you know, that was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Grace.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thanks Grace, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I hope you guys feel very educated now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I don't know what I feel, but I feel okay.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
The Robin and Kid Podcast
The Robin and Chit Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, Grace, where in the world do we find you?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm in Melbourne this morning, dreary, gray, rainy Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And yet you look like you're in summer a your bahamas. Yes, Spinky, okay.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
We've just been reading your your story, Grace. This is incredible.
So so you're you're an only fans, only fans.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Person model Water the Water Model creator.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
And so you do normal normal in Vertigoma's only fans
things where people I guess, So what is normal the men?
For someone who's never never had an account or understand
how it works, what happens men is that all men contact.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have some women. I've had some women along the way.
Obviously majority of it is men.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's kind of like an Instagram feed, but you can
monetize it. So you've got like a feed, and once
you subscribe, you basically gain access to that feed, which
can be you can post anything you like. You can
post a bikini picture up into a sex tape if
you want. You can should post anything in between, whatever
you're comfortable with. So I post topless but nothing more
on the feed. Very teasy, kind of racy photos and suggestive,
(01:28):
but then the more explicit content.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Happens in the dms.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You've got your dms which are locked if you I mean,
you can put a price on it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You can also make them free if you like.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But most of the time you'd lock a mass message
and you send that out to all your fans and
they can choose to unlock that to see more explicit content,
and they can also request like custom videos. Obviously I'm
very kink friendly as well, so it's really you can
do a lot with it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, So how did you get started?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I started in Lockdown when I was a really broke receptionist,
a hotel receptionist, and I was sick of feeling like
I couldn't even afford to eat dinner, like I was
just so broke. I was also my sisters had already
kind of two sisters, they had already kind of gone
the adult industry road, and I'd been kind of seeing
their success, and I was very interested in if I
(02:16):
could be successful. So I started with no expectations and
very very quickly, very very quickly blew up and I
made a million dollars my first year. It very quickly
took my hotel salary. Obviously I quit that job, and
I just never expected to be so successful, but it
just blew up within like the first year.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Long, how long did it take to make big money?
Like you say a million in a year, but like,
was it like the first month? Were you making big money?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
First month?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I made like a ten thousand dollars I think, considering
I made three thousand a month at my hotel job.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, and how far did
you go? Like how explicit was the content because I'm
guessing you made that that money from the dms? Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? So first year it was actually just solo content.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So now I make content like sex Tape boy Girl
with other girls, like I make very like a lot
of different types of content.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Now, But at the start, it was just solo me
on my own.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So I made most of my money in the first
year literally just from my own content, and it was
not as explicit as it is now. Obviously I've been
in here for five years, so it's kind of developed
over to.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's gone up and the ante has gone up.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But yeah, it was just locked messages of myself just
having a great time.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So now that you're doing sex tapes and things like that.
Do you still differentiate yourself from a porn star who
effectively doesn't true.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, that's a great question. I was actually speaking this
to a friend the other day.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't consider myself a porn star, even though I
know that, like people call me that and you could
think of that. I think because my content create is
more exclusive, Like I have an exclusive fan base.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's not on the internet public for free.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's not just like on a website you have to subscribe,
you have to you know, you talk to me, we
develop a sort of a relationship on that page together,
and so I kind of differentiate that between a porn star,
where in my eyes, a porn start. This might be
different for everyone is having sex with a bunch of
different people, maybe people you're meeting on the day, Like
you kind of like don't really know, like you're maybe
got management telling you what to do. It's all on me,
(04:16):
unmowned boss. I choose whatever I do. Actually, I only
make sex scepts with partners like boyfriends. So it's very
like for me, it's very exclusive. It's still a very like.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Personal thing that I'm sharing with the world.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's not like I'm out here having sex with a
bunch of brandow people and filming and putting up on
porn hub.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So for me, that is the difference.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's an interesting sentence though, a personal thing that you're
sharing with the world.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah. Yeah, it's very personal, but it's like a snapshot
into I guess my real sex life.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So do you You'll get requests and then you consider
what that request is. Is that how you know some
of the content is actually decided upon.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I get a lot lot of customer requests. Actually
have to go film three today, But basically they can
be as normal as a lot lot of the time.
It's just like a stripped tease, maybe a toy saying
someone's name. That's like the most common requests. But then
I've got up until you know, very very different requests.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I've got someone who wants me to feed my belly
my belly with pasta. So there's all different types. So
I just choose it. I'm comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
How much is that worth to them? Do they put
a figure on that?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So a custom video for me would be probably about
five hundred us five.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Minutes, right, Wow, what do you have to do? His
feed your belly button with past it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Seriously, I know, look at that's that's the one I'm
looking forward to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've great.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And speaking of unusual requests, this is the one that
brought you to our attention. This guy Dave, who is
a pay pig who you have control of his accounts.
You have control of his bank account and what he loves,
what he gets off is you draining his account? Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, that's correct. So it started about three years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I think I had never heard of It's called findom
So financial domination.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'd actually ever heard of it before this.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I was. I was kind of pleasantly surprised when I
found out what it was. Yeah, he messaged on Instagram
and I didn't believe him at the start, and then
it just kind of took off from that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
How much money do you think you've taken out of
his accounts over the last three years?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I would say it was definitely close to fifty thousand dollars, Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
My roundabout about fifty thousand dollars. And he wants that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He loves it, and if I don't do it, he
actually begs me. He literally send me a messages and
saying please, grace please, Like I'm just please, I want
this so much, and I have to keep saying like
sometimes I'm like I can't busy, or you know, I'll
do it tomorrow, and then he's begging me. So it's
this constant like he just wants it so bad, and
I'm the mean person for saying no.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't understand what that looks like. So he sends
you a DM and says what he would just say.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He calls me goddess or master, so I called him
slave and on pay pig, and so he would just
basically say, hey, Grace, please drain me, please drain my
bank account.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
At the start, it was him.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Sending me money via like PayPal and Beaman and different
like pay kind of apps and stuff. But now obviously
I gained access to his bank account and gave me
the passwords everything I've Actually, he begged me to lock
him out for periods of time.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
He didn't have access to his own account.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, so I had it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I made sure he had enough access on his card
that he could go pay for fuel and stuff like that.
Like I've never wanted to take too much from him.
I always wanted to make sure he could live his
life with this fetish but I have definitely locked him
out for a few weeks, I believe at the longest,
until he eventually cracked and he was like, I actually
(07:57):
need access, and I was like, all the side.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So is he a super rich guy? What does he
do for a living that this is my knowledge?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, I think he's a teacher. I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We don't talk about his personal life, like it's very
much off the table for talking about it. But from
the three years, I think he is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So you have no idea if he's married, kids, if
this if he's my age, he's my age. Okay, so
this fetish isn't impacting other people.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, he's not married, he's I think he's twenty five.
I think he's just a tiny bit younger than me.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And did he get anything sexually out of it? Like
do you have to send him videos nude or anything like?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, So he loves my butt. That's like he's one thing.
He's like the biggest. He loves my butt. So whenever
I kind of am taking or draining or wanting something,
I will just send him a little reward. Depends on
actually how much I'm taking. Sometimes I'm just like no, no,
because the whole point is that you're lucky that I'm
even talking to you. You're lucky that I'm even draining
your book out. I'll coul choose someone else. You're lucky,
(08:59):
So that kind of premise. But I will send him
like a picture or give him a free link to
my only fans because he doesn't always I don't let
him subscribe, so I decide when he subscribes to that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Wow, and you just take his money and he's and
he loves it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Do you have to have a contract?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Because what happens if the police said, hey, you're taking
money from this man?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, look, I just screenshot everything, so I make sure
I want to. I say, you have to tell me
on text that you give me full permission to your
bank account when you give me the password.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Like, and then I screenshot that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I've got heaps of screenshots of him basically saying
please do this, I'll give you full permission, blah blah
blah blah. So I did think about that though, I
was like, can I am I allowed to log into
someone's can if you have full permission and the logins.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't ever want to try and intellectualize or understand
a finish, Like that's the whole point, right, it's a finish.
People do this weird stuff and that turns them on.
What about you, though, do you find this like, do
you have any sort of emotional attestment to it or
you we were literally just doing this because he's going
to pay you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean right now.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Because I've developed a relationship with him over like three years,
I do have like a sense of an emotional attachment
to him in terms of we talk almost every day.
But in terms of the draining, I find it really
fun and enjoyable. I probably wouldn't if I didn't think
he loved it, Like, I definitely think that would change
the feeling for me.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
For me, knowing that he.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Loves it and he's literally loving every second of it
and giving me the play by play, it does make
it a very enjoyable experience for me. It doesn't exactly
turn me on, but it kind of does almost in
a way, because when I do receive the money in
my bank account, it definitely is a little bit of
a oh, it's a little bit of a nice my
nice feeling. So I definitely I do enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Do you buy gifts for friends and things with that
with his account.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Ever, yes I have.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I have actually bought my friends quite a bit with
his money. I bought them like lingerie that they wanted.
I actually recently bought my friend like a bathrobe, like
just random stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Like a really nice one. But yeah, so I just
kind of like pick little things every now and then.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And does he care what you spend the money on?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
In fact, this is another thing he loves me telling people.
So he knows that I'm going on the reading this morning.
Oh he knows you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And he is obsessed with this. He literally like, I'm excited,
like tell them all how much I give you? So everyone.
He loves me talking about.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It because our producer, Scott, he's got two young kids
under five, and one of them has smashed his iPhone
and he said, could you ask Grace if she could
use the paypig's account to buy me a brand new
iPhone fifteen?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I could definitely log in and have a look and
see how has gotten paid.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
See if he's got because they're over a thousand bucks
now yeah right, she's doing it. Now do you want
to log in and see see if he's got enough?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I could try let me have a look.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
This is weird, this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is so weird. Make us like conspirators to the fetish.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I mean, no, I love it. I love you guys
are very I will have a look.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Sometimes if he's bad, bad, he changes the password because
he kind of freaks himself out, and then I have
to and then I have to make him tell me it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I'll check if he's changed it. Okay, probably once
every couple of.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Weeks because he freaks himself out, and then I have
to be like, I'm to give me the control again.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So now, so we're talking to Grace on Zoom for
those that are just hearing this on the radio. Grace
has got a phone out now and is logging into
Internet banking to see if I'm slave pig, pay pig
slave Dave. The pay pig has enough money in his
account to buy ap producer Scott to your new iPhone.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So he definitely has enough in here, yeah, and would
you So what has to happen now for that transaction?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I would have to tell him what I'm going to do,
so I do like the loop and then it would
just go through. But he would basically have to create
his budget around an expense.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So because he's.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Not like that wealthy, I still have to it for
him and make sure he can kind of live his
own bills, pay for fuel stuff like that. But I
would just say I'll probably give him at the start
of the month's things, and I think I'm wanting and
then we see how that just specially works into his budget.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, I kind of like half of me just
wants to go, how do you feel about that? That
sounds awful? But this is a grown man paying for
you to do just that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I know, it's kind of it is kind of
shocking to me, and I still sometimes can't believe it
is such a fetish. And it is a very actually
a very popular fetish. I didn't even know, Like it's
not just as one guy. There's there's a community of
people who love Finder and love to be financially.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Happened to them in their chart or did they not
get pocket money?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't actually really wonder that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't think I actually asked him directly, like why
do you think this is your fetish?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But I'm so curious as well.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
As someone who's been divorced twice, I know what it's
like to have a woman drain my accounts.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
For the privilege, and I did not enjoy it. Probably, Well,
how long do you think this will go on for?
And have you ever met him in public?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, so I have never met him, but he has
said he's seen me out because I know he lives
in Melbourne, so I definitely have. He's told me he's
seeing me out and about in the city and he
said he was too scared to come up to me.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So for me, this.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Will go on for as long as we're both happy
and comfortable with it. Like if he obviously gets a
partner one day and blah blah blah, it might change
the whole dynamic and it might eventually just fizzle out
and end because I don't want to be impacting someone's
actual personal life for other people involved as well. Ok
I like that he is single, but yeah, he has
seen me a few times and just said he's too scared.
(14:45):
But his ultimate dream, he always tells me that he
wants to take me to an ATM, give me his
bank card, get me to take all of his money out,
and then he wants me to stomp on his back.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Stomp on his back.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's like a bit of a dominant like so he's lying.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
He's lying on the ground and you stomp on him
and then walk away with.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Laying on the ground. And he was like, and you
can pull the money on me if you want.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
If it's not okay, do not do that in front
of anyone that can arrest your grace. Maybe if he's
seeing you a couple of times like is he stalking
(15:24):
you think so?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You think?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It does feel very It's like I kind of like
think of a little as a friend as well. We
have obviously a dynamic where it's very much like it
is like a sense of a role play as well,
like I'm the master and the goddess and he is
the slave in the paper. And there's definitely that's strict dynamic.
But sometimes it does crack a little bit, and we
do have a normal conversation about things, but it is
on the rarestide.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
What would you talk about like a normal what are
you watching on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Like actually he gives me movie recommendations all the time,
like you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And I was like, wow, what about like not like AFL.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Like yeah, he always responds to my stories whenever I
go out anywhere on Instagram, So we always kind of
like talk about what I'm doing in the day, but
it will usually lead back to the Finndom kind of
sense or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, he just loves He just loves saying it's so hot,
You're just so hot?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, wow, do your parents know what you do?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They know what I do to a point. I don't
think that they know I even make sex tapes or anything.
I think they know I take like naked photos. I
think that that's probably as far as they know. They
definitely would not know about NDAL. They do not know
the extent, but they know the opportunities that arise, like
they know this morning, and they know like different opportunities
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But I don't think we've really.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Ever had an in depth conversation because they're very religious,
so I.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Keep it they are.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And you mentioned that your sisters are also in their
sex industry. Yes, that's how does that happen if you've
got a religious family and then all the three daughters
are all in the sex game.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, that's the that's the interesting part, isn't it. My
poor dad, My little sister actually started.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Off as a stripper when she was eighteen.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
My older sister the same, So they kind of do
a little bit of a different realm of work.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm the only one that does online only fans online
adult like work.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
To compare financially, the three the three gigs, who makes
the most money?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I do?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, well and truly well and truly.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm a hard worker.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah. Why wouldn't they switch then? Seeing how much you
make doing this, why wouldn't they switch from their their
roles into yours?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Actually, I trying to help them, so I actually like
sometimes I tell my sister, I'm like, give me a logins,
I'm logging into you and I'm setting up all this stuff.
I mean to respond to your dms like I would
just sometimes like just kind of like get her a
little bit head started, and then.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
She never she never up keeps it, so to give up.
I'm just like my own life to live. You, I
just you do it?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay. Wow, Well it's it's such an education, and you know,
like your totally in control of your life, your.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Finances and Dave's finances.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And does it impact your relationships?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, I'm single currently. It definitely did impact my last relationship.
I wouldn't I would say, I probably kept it on
the DLL a little bit more I would. I didn't
want to talk about it with him because he would
get a little bit triggered by it, which I kind
of understand. But at the same time, I didn't use.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That money to buy us like dinners and stuff, so
I kind of was like, well that.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Just and Dave would know that, like that you paid
for dinner with He paid for your dinner with your boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, he loved because he thought I would be talking
about him.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah right, I can now before we let you go,
Scotty is losing his mind because we haven't worked out
what we're going to do with his iPhone.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Tell Scott, you have to message me budget and I
can order it for it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Okay, just message the only fans girl. Your wife would
be thrilled, Scotty.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeahs close your eyes, don't look at the thie.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's right, cameras hang on.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Can you know he's on the he's on the wrong
run in Scottie, because we get Scotty on the mic
here so that he can.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So if you're if he's a pap, does that make
you my sugar mama, Scotty, I feel like I feel
like I feel responsible for Grace and this guy sounds
like he's like a lunatic. And then I want to
(19:39):
know what happened in his childhood.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now I'm curious, did happen? Did you not get a pocket?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yes, get me on the phone. I'll give Dave a call, okay,
and we'll work it all out. I like it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm sure he wouldn't love that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Like, would he talk? Does he talk about his fetish?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think he's very It's funny.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He's a funny one because he'll kind of be so
confident and ballsy and be like, yeah, like I love it,
talk to your friends. And then when something like little
happens maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Sometimes there's different triggers.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He'll kind of freak himself out and you're like one
and be like, oh, I just it's a bit overwhelming,
and then like go offline for a day. So I
think he kind of freaks himself out with his own fetish.
He does love to talk about it, So I'd be.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Able to talk to him if he wants to. I
would be very intrigued to find out about love.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
To get him on the call, i'd have to like
brief him a little bit, but I would generally love
to like do another thing where I actually bring him
up and maybe even drain him online or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Wish like you have to be there too, otherwise it
feels weird.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And when if you just joined us, Grace said, drain
him live, but she means he's a count.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, I mean his bank account.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Guys the terminology and we.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thought some you're doing a video with Pastor fairly that's
kind of we talked about tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh yeah, you know, that was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Grace.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thanks Grace, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I hope you guys feel very educated now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I don't know what I feel, but I feel okay.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
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