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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now the podcast, Yeah, this will be interesting. We are
talking with Madeleine Smith at Madeleine the Real is a
tag on on TikTok and Madeleine is a love rat
investigator from l I I love this who gets involved
in what I call honey trapping? Can you explain what
(00:23):
honey trapping is to us? Madeline?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi? How are you guys? Yes? I can.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Essentially, I have women who approach me, and it's when
they're a relationship there's a lot of red flags or
typically these guys that they think are cheating are repeat offenders.
So I slide into the guy DMS and see if
they are willing to cheat with me, and that cheating.
(00:52):
The definition of cheating varies from relationship to relationship, from
person to person. So I get the answers that the
girl needs needs based off of what she believes the
guy is hiding.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How far do you go with them?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't ever meet up in person, and it just
it depends, you know, some girls just want to see
if I even get a response, because a lot of
guys like I don't even have social media, and they're like,
I swear he had the secret account, Like I found
them before I just want to know if you know
he responds, or if you sent the picture back, or
if he agrees to meet up with you, or if
(01:27):
you know he'll send a certain special picture back to me,
you know, a little sultree so or engage in certain conversations.
You know, it's the goal varies, so it's.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Not there may have of contacting you, but but you
so you might you reach out first and you're a
bit flirtatious. Like is it is it sort of entrapment?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it's only entrapment if you can be trapped for
something you're not supposed to be doing. Right, So, yeah,
you know, if someone doesn't, I'm not forcing anyone to
talk to me. I'm not forcing anyone to have a
certain conversation with me. So if they choose to after
they've made their boundaries clear in their relationship, then that's
on them.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
A professional loyalty tester, I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What you go through when you what's your first little
flirtatious thing you generally send.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It really depends on the personality of the guy, and
you know how much information I have or like if
I'm text messaging or if I'm you know, hitting up
a profile, but it's usually just a hey, you know,
it's not too complicated. You know, I have to have
the backstory ready to go. So that's the part that
you know isn't necessarily you're not seeing that in the beginning,
(02:40):
but I have to have it locked and ready to go.
And they're like, how did you get my information or
why did you have.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So you've got to have a story. So give me statistics.
How many people falter? Like when of the percentage that
you approach, how many are you actually busting?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh, I say about eighty percent lotimes more. I do
like to not sound so doomsday about it, because you
know you're taking a sample phase of people who have
already cheated. Typically, yes, it's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's a dirty pool that you well, if you want
to check, if you want to check out what Madelin's
up to on TikTok, there are hundreds of thousands of
people doing just that at Madeline the real Thank you
for joining us, Madeline, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a weird one, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No? I don't think so. I think once you get
to the point that you really think your partner's cheating
so much that you have to go and hire someone.
It's kind of dead already.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Don't if someone can lie to your face and you
just still have the inkling. I mean there must be.
If you become that desperate, you would have tried other stuff, right,
And you know, we were discussing a little bit yesterday.
People go to great lengths because if you if you've
got that gut feeling, everyone says, trust your gut.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, and sometimes yeah true.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, the only thing I was, yeah, you need
the proof. The only thing I would say.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Is you want to know the answer? Thirty one oh
six fives out number? Have you gone to great lengths
to find out? How did you find out anonymous?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Hello? So how did you find out Anonymous?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, we were originally having troubles at the start anyway,
but we had separated and we decided to try to
make it, make it work at the time for the kids.
But in that happening, we thought maybe a family holiday
would be the way to go. And so we were
on the family holiday and everything was going okay, but
there was there was just something that you couldn't shake.
(04:38):
And I feel like that's women's intuition. And I think
it stems from you. When women ask a question to men,
we generally know the answer. I was seeing if you
would tell the truth, and when I had asked the question,
I just kept getting shut down like no, like I'm
not seeing anyone, Like no, we're all good, like everything's okay,
and I just kept putting it away. But then it
was just it kept getting to the point where little
(05:00):
things like the phone being locked and not being like
an open phone policy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So how did it come up on holidays?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Then, well, when we're on holidays, there was that women's intuition,
but the phone kept getting locked, And then I had
asked the question, but the story kept changing, and the
story just never made a wink of sense. And so
when I finally got to the bottom of it, it
was that he was messaging another girl while we were
on holidays and everything that I wanted, like that I
(05:29):
love you and I want to be with you. He
was telling her, how did you did you have to
fly home together from that hot I flew home separately.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I bet you, yeah you had.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
To, and it was yeah, I mean, we're still trying
to make it work. But at the end of the day,
once that trust is broken. It's too hard to It's
very hard to come back from.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, too hard for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, Tess of Sunnybank, How did you find out your
partner was cheating?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Hey, guys, my story is a bit strange. My best
friend made of Honor decided to have an affair with
my husband six months after our wedding.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Now, how did you find out?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I found out because I started to have some suspicions
and ended up he'd moved out. I went to his
place of residence, had to scale the wall. A wheely
Bin helped me get into the wall, found her car
parked outside his place. It was all dark all of
a sudden from the outside you could see that it was
(06:35):
lit up. But once I got in there and they
knew it was me, closed everything up. Anyway, It all
came to truism and they got married, had two kids.
But just two months ago found out that he's had
an affair on her, and yeah, I left her. Now,
how did you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How do you feel he was?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
He was devastating, absolutely devastating because she's my best friend.
We worked together. She kept it live for six months.
She managed to do the friends still while they were
together for six months. Done.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Thanks for sharing. Now, look we've got to get to news.
But we can't get to news. Before we talked to Todd,
our producer, who when we were talking about honey trapping
earlier on we had this famous TikTok who does that
for a living? But you have done it. You've been
a honey trap Todd.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, and I completely forgot about this. It was many,
many years ago. I had one of my dearest friends.
She had concerns that her boyfriend was potentially by or gay,
so she sent me the challenge of starting to talk
to him on the side to see if anything would happen.
Of course I took on that challenge. Of course I
did it. And one afternoon I was at her house
(07:46):
maybe his friend's house, and we were sitting there discussing.
I was explaining what messages I was getting back and forth.
He then was happy to come and see.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Me, well, like at your apartment, actually meet up.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
So I had to leave her house, Yes, go to
my house, this would be there to meet him. And
he came over and yeah, the deed happened.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You didn't have to do it, I did.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I needed to prove.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Well, I just got caught up at the moment I
through with that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Did she care?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I can, well, I lived. After doing it, I went
back to her house and said, look, he's.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Gay, shows up at your house.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
The trap is set.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
That's no, totally fine.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
They were no longer. That's for sure, because I've obviously
been there. It was fun story.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, half way through.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
God, yeah he's gay. Finis
Now the podcast, Yeah, this will be interesting. We are
talking with Madeleine Smith at Madeleine the Real is a
tag on on TikTok and Madeleine is a love rat
investigator from l I I love this who gets involved
in what I call honey trapping? Can you explain what
(00:23):
honey trapping is to us? Madeline?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi? How are you guys? Yes? I can.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Essentially, I have women who approach me, and it's when
they're a relationship there's a lot of red flags or
typically these guys that they think are cheating are repeat offenders.
So I slide into the guy DMS and see if
they are willing to cheat with me, and that cheating.
(00:52):
The definition of cheating varies from relationship to relationship, from
person to person. So I get the answers that the
girl needs needs based off of what she believes the
guy is hiding.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
How far do you go with them?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't ever meet up in person, and it just
it depends, you know, some girls just want to see
if I even get a response, because a lot of
guys like I don't even have social media, and they're like,
I swear he had the secret account, Like I found
them before I just want to know if you know
he responds, or if you sent the picture back, or
if he agrees to meet up with you, or if
(01:27):
you know he'll send a certain special picture back to me,
you know, a little sultree so or engage in certain conversations.
You know, it's the goal varies, so it's.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Not there may have of contacting you, but but you
so you might you reach out first and you're a
bit flirtatious. Like is it is it sort of entrapment?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it's only entrapment if you can be trapped for
something you're not supposed to be doing. Right, So, yeah,
you know, if someone doesn't, I'm not forcing anyone to
talk to me. I'm not forcing anyone to have a
certain conversation with me. So if they choose to after
they've made their boundaries clear in their relationship, then that's
on them.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
A professional loyalty tester, I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What you go through when you what's your first little
flirtatious thing you generally send.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It really depends on the personality of the guy, and
you know how much information I have or like if
I'm text messaging or if I'm you know, hitting up
a profile, but it's usually just a hey, you know,
it's not too complicated. You know, I have to have
the backstory ready to go. So that's the part that
you know isn't necessarily you're not seeing that in the beginning,
(02:40):
but I have to have it locked and ready to go.
And they're like, how did you get my information or
why did you have.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So you've got to have a story. So give me statistics.
How many people falter? Like when of the percentage that
you approach, how many are you actually busting?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh, I say about eighty percent lotimes more. I do
like to not sound so doomsday about it, because you
know you're taking a sample phase of people who have
already cheated. Typically, yes, it's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's a dirty pool that you well, if you want
to check, if you want to check out what Madelin's
up to on TikTok, there are hundreds of thousands of
people doing just that at Madeline the real Thank you
for joining us, Madeline, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a weird one, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No? I don't think so. I think once you get
to the point that you really think your partner's cheating
so much that you have to go and hire someone.
It's kind of dead already.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Don't if someone can lie to your face and you
just still have the inkling. I mean there must be.
If you become that desperate, you would have tried other stuff, right,
And you know, we were discussing a little bit yesterday.
People go to great lengths because if you if you've
got that gut feeling, everyone says, trust your gut.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, and sometimes yeah true.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, the only thing I was, yeah, you need
the proof. The only thing I would say.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Is you want to know the answer? Thirty one oh
six fives out number? Have you gone to great lengths
to find out? How did you find out anonymous?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Hello? So how did you find out Anonymous?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, we were originally having troubles at the start anyway,
but we had separated and we decided to try to
make it, make it work at the time for the kids.
But in that happening, we thought maybe a family holiday
would be the way to go. And so we were
on the family holiday and everything was going okay, but
there was there was just something that you couldn't shake.
(04:38):
And I feel like that's women's intuition. And I think
it stems from you. When women ask a question to men,
we generally know the answer. I was seeing if you
would tell the truth, and when I had asked the question,
I just kept getting shut down like no, like I'm
not seeing anyone, Like no, we're all good, like everything's okay,
and I just kept putting it away. But then it
was just it kept getting to the point where little
(05:00):
things like the phone being locked and not being like
an open phone policy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So how did it come up on holidays?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Then, well, when we're on holidays, there was that women's intuition,
but the phone kept getting locked, And then I had
asked the question, but the story kept changing, and the
story just never made a wink of sense. And so
when I finally got to the bottom of it, it
was that he was messaging another girl while we were
on holidays and everything that I wanted, like that I
(05:29):
love you and I want to be with you. He
was telling her, how did you did you have to
fly home together from that hot I flew home separately.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I bet you, yeah you had.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
To, and it was yeah, I mean, we're still trying
to make it work. But at the end of the day,
once that trust is broken. It's too hard to It's
very hard to come back from.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, too hard for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, Tess of Sunnybank, How did you find out your
partner was cheating?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Hey, guys, my story is a bit strange. My best
friend made of Honor decided to have an affair with
my husband six months after our wedding.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Now, how did you find out?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I found out because I started to have some suspicions
and ended up he'd moved out. I went to his
place of residence, had to scale the wall. A wheely
Bin helped me get into the wall, found her car
parked outside his place. It was all dark all of
a sudden from the outside you could see that it was
(06:35):
lit up. But once I got in there and they
knew it was me, closed everything up. Anyway, It all
came to truism and they got married, had two kids.
But just two months ago found out that he's had
an affair on her, and yeah, I left her. Now,
how did you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How do you feel he was?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
He was devastating, absolutely devastating because she's my best friend.
We worked together. She kept it live for six months.
She managed to do the friends still while they were
together for six months. Done.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Thanks for sharing. Now, look we've got to get to news.
But we can't get to news. Before we talked to Todd,
our producer, who when we were talking about honey trapping
earlier on we had this famous TikTok who does that
for a living? But you have done it. You've been
a honey trap Todd.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, and I completely forgot about this. It was many,
many years ago. I had one of my dearest friends.
She had concerns that her boyfriend was potentially by or gay,
so she sent me the challenge of starting to talk
to him on the side to see if anything would happen.
Of course I took on that challenge. Of course I
did it. And one afternoon I was at her house
(07:46):
maybe his friend's house, and we were sitting there discussing.
I was explaining what messages I was getting back and forth.
He then was happy to come and see.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Me, well, like at your apartment, actually meet up.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
So I had to leave her house, Yes, go to
my house, this would be there to meet him. And
he came over and yeah, the deed happened.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You didn't have to do it, I did.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I needed to prove.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Well, I just got caught up at the moment I
through with that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Did she care?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I can, well, I lived. After doing it, I went
back to her house and said, look, he's.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Gay, shows up at your house.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
The trap is set.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
That's no, totally fine.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
They were no longer. That's for sure, because I've obviously
been there. It was fun story.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, half way through.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
God, yeah he's gay. Finis
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