Step into the provocative world of Annie Knight, Australia's most talked-about OnlyFans creator who's turned her sensuality into a thriving business empire. In this raw and revealing episode, Annie doesn't hold back as she discusses her very public feud with former friend Bonnie Blue, the surprising logistics behind organizing her headline-making 500-man encounter, and how she navigates a serious relationship while building her controversial career. From tax deductions on lingerie to dealing with public judgment, Annie offers a fascinating glimpse into a life where nothing is off-limits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are some tax deductions working only for people who
don't know text toys?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I can claim you know bed sheets or like a bed.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He demanded to see my phone scrolled through our messages
soaked for a week and now snoops on my computer
and all of.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
A sudden, Dad's text messages with his mistress are popping.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Up on the screen in real time.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Su Secrets Welcome back to another Saucy Secrets episode.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
What a show we have planned.
Speaker 6 (00:28):
Tonight, unexhausted and hasn't even started yet tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I know I'm looking at the run sheets and if
but coming up next. You may remember we spoke to
Bonnie Blue Lives.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
You may be definitely remembered because you watched it on
YouTube obviously, which is where we are, like subscribe Saucy Secrets,
and you definitely also listen to the podcast on the
Your Hat Radio episode not you made you definitely.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You definitely did. And you will remember there was one
person we were not allowed to ask her about. Well,
we've got that person on the show today.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
This is serious journalism.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
We near give someone a rite of reply if they've
been thrown under a bus by a previous guest.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I've been told this person is coming in hot,
they're going to pull punch.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Oh yes, this person is Annie Knight and she's on
the show next tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're going behind the velvet rope with someone who has
made her body, her brand, and her voice the ultimate powerhouse.
She's an only fans, creator, content queen, and someone who
has turned her sensuality into beck. She's Any Knight, and
we're about to get real about sex, money, fame, boundaries,
and how to survive when everything you do is under
a lens. If you've ever wondered what it's like to
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work boldly into your desire, this one's for you.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Welcome, any Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my gosh, we're so excited to chat to you.
You have been iconic on Daily Mail, who I write for.
I feel like every second day there's an article on
what you're doing, and I wanted to ask you right
off the bat. I just did an interview with Bonnie Blue,
and one of the no go areas for chatting with
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her was I wasn't allowed to ask her any questions about.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
You, and I want to know why what happened? What's
the beef?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
I don't, I don't really know why other than like
she probably knows that she's the one in the wrong
in the situation, doesn't want to draw attention to that.
But yeah, Bonnie and I were friends for like a
couple of years at least. We did schools together. We
kind of you know, we were operating very similar spaces,
and we worked together many times.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We went to Fiji together, we went to cancerun together.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Will always rode respectful of each other's careers and all
of that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And yeah, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
I guess one day she lost her only fans account,
and instead of you know, trying to draw attention to
the fact that she lost her account, she tried to
get me and a bunch of other creators banned from
the platform as well. And so that for me, it
was just like, Okay, why would you do that, We're
not friends, We're done.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Oh that's not a girl's girl at all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I know, it's super disappointing.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, and have you reached out to her to be
like what the heck?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, So it was kind of a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
There was a thing something happened before that I went
to hospital, and she used that against me in the
media saying like, well, at least I don't cry and
go to hospital and all this stuff after challenges, and
I was like, oh, could you not have given me
the heads up? So I messaged her and I was like, Hey,
what's this about?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know what's going on?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
She was like, oh, sorry, probably should have given you
the heads up, but blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And I was like, oh, whatever, I'll let it go.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah, and then yeah, after that that sort of it
kind of escalated from there, and yeah, I don't know,
just I just couldn't forgive her once you tried to
get me banned from the platform.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well that's not statistically correct because I watched her documentary
and she actually she said, yeah, you might have cried after,
you know, one of your recent videos, but she had
to take a whole week off after she slept with
her thousand men because she got so sick.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So that's a big fat lie, Bonnie Blue Cool.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I just had another thought then, when you were saying,
you know, you had been to Cancun, and you'd been
to Fiji and you've been to schoolies.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Now, when I write an article overseas, I can tax it.
Can you tax.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Your trips to schoolies and can coon and things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Absolutely that was all tax deductible. It was all work.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
So yeah, I mean, you know I was over there
promoting myself and you know, marketing and all that kind
of thing, and obviously, yeah, like filming with the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So it's all a tax reduction.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I want to know, what are some tax deductions working
only friends?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
People don't know this claim?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So, I mean you can claim a lot like I
can claim getting my makeup done, getting my hair done,
just the basic stuff obviously, travel, accommodation, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But like sex toys, I can claim you know.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Bed sheets or like a bed, anything that's like to
do with with my work really, so like panties. I'll
buy loads of underwear to send to guys, and so
you know, that's all the tax deduction lingerie.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, it's pretty well.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I'm not going to try and help you wrout the
tax system here. But if you wanted to renovate the apartment,
renovate the house. Maybe you're filming a new scene in
the lounge room, but the couch you got not quite right,
so you've got to buy a new couch. Oh wait,
the TV in the back of the shot doesn't quite
fit the aesthetic. We've got to get a brand new TV.
You could redo the whole joint if you wanted to
and claim it on your tax.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
There is a few like office type things or like
because I use you know, a room for filming and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So yeah, you can claim quite a bit, but I
do think there are limits.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Did you think you'd be on the show to talks
about your tax return? By the way, was that was
that one of the questions you thought you'd bend? Now
you obviously said you know that there isn't really a
relationship now with you and Bonnie, but I feel like
we've got to if there was something that you wanted
to say to her. Is there a message or is
there anything that you've got to say or is that
all now water under the bridge and that that has
closed essentially for you?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I wish her all the best.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I you know, I understand that her situation's tough and
that you know, getting better from only fans would have
been just like horrific, it would have been horrible. She's
LOSTO many sources of income, So yeah, I just hope
she's doing well. And she's happy and she's you know,
treating people well and.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
With these stunts because they are pretty wild, I know
for her the thousand men gang bank, she says it
really is one of her kinks. Do you see it
as more of a stunt when you do these kind
of things or is it a kink for you? It
was obviously like beneficial both ways, Like it's I found
it super fun. I was nervous beforehand, but when I
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was there, I had a great time, and I think.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That like that shows and the videos.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
But yeah, obviously at the same time, like the amount
of media and publicity that comes with it is such
a good kickback to my only fans.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I think it's kind of both for me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And when it comes to organizing a giant gang bang.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Talk about the admin.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Let's have an admin chat now, I could attack for two.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't even mean for it to be so what's
the tax? Like, no, I'm just doing now any you're
engaged to someone with a very famous father here in Australia,
idea desperate to know how that's playing out.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
We'll do that next more with any night.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's some stuff behind the scenes that people wouldn't know
goes into a giant stunt like this.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Yeah, I think, like that's the crazy thing about not
just doing a stunt. Like my job in general, there's
just a lot of admin. Like people think all day
all I'm doing is taking photos and filming. It's like, no,
the admin's crazy, especially for a big event. So I
had to go and order like a thousand balaclavas.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I had to order a thousand.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Custom made condoms because I wanted them to have my
face on them. I had to order like wristbands, and
I had to get sharpies at Texters to write numbers
on people and print out a thousand release forms.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I had to hire eleven staff members to be there
on the day.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
I had to hire a venue and it was not
easy finding a venue that would accommodate for such things.
So ended up going with the Swingers Club, who are
happy to have me. But yeah, it took it took
a lot of money and time to organize, and there
were you know, on the day, everything went pretty smoothly.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But my fluffer. Do you guys know what a fluffer is?
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Tell us about the fluffer.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No, So, a fluffer is someone that when you're doing
something like this, they basically are there to just get
the guys ready so that when they get to you
they're all ready to go.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
They're hard to stick it for it there.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You can say it on the show. Don't worry, go nuts,
Go nuts.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So what does a fluffer do? Like, do they just
like show their boobies? What did they do?
Speaker 7 (08:44):
They do a lot of stuff with their mouths, so yeah,
that's mostly enhanced.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, so they do blowjobs.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They give them work blow jobs.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
They're basically like unfortunately they're doing a lot of the work,
but thet it that comes along.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
With it, that would be insane.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh yeah, and that's like true.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
How do you pitch that job to someone when you say, hey,
I'm looking for a fluffer on set, this is what
it's gonna take, this is what the job entails. How
do you find that person?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So hard?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I went on like a bunch of escorting websites. I
messaged friends of mine, like not friends of mine in
the industry of and asked just like hates people, and
I was like, if we get you know, like five
or six.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Then it won't be as hard work. And no one
wanted to do it.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
I offered like extreme amounts of money and no one
would do it, and so I was like, oh, what
are we gonna do? And I kind of given up
on it. And then I had this girl message me.
She saw my posts and was like, hey, oh my god,
I would love to be a fluffer and I was like, amazing,
let's do it. And then two days before I messaged
her and like, she didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So I was like, oh my god, if she fails,
this is not going to be good.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
And then sure enough on the day she didn't show up.
So I had to be my own fluffer. Which was
the hardest.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Part was that, like I was doing, there was so
much going on it.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Once I had was using my mouth, my hands, everything,
and my jaw was very so at the end of the.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Day, Wow, now you have a fiance. Was he a
fan before you met or was he a friend or
how did that come about?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah, so we've known each other actually for like ten
years now, so yeah, we started working together and kind
of had a little fling and then stopped that and
just stayed friends and have been friends for like ten years.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And then it was earlier this year that.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Yeah, he sort of was like, I think we should
be together, and I was like I think so too.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And how does he So he was around when you
did the stump with over five hundred people, how did
what was his.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I mean obviously like he's through.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
He's been there from the start, Like when I first
started only friends in twenty twenty. You know, he was
the person that I call him like, oh my god,
this happened today, or this happened today. So he and
he's seen I guess the amount of effort and energy
and time and just like the drive that I've had
with this and you've seen my career grow, and he's
so proud of that.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
How does he take it?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like has he got any of the flack from people
who have strong opinions about you? Like has it kind
of bounced off onto him as well?
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Yeah, it was actually kind of sad because we got
engaged more overseas at the time, and so we're in
our little like love bubble. We're having such a fun time,
and then it was like what should have been such
a beautiful time for us was kind of like tainted
by you know, all these people's opinions. And I think, yeah,
like the comments that Henry was getting it were horrific
and he went down to Adelaide for like a footy
(11:33):
weekend with his mates and just got like berated by
people at the football ground just coming up to him,
calling him names, calling me names like really awful.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So that was pretty tough.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
But he's obviously you know, he's getting thicker skin as
time and he goes on.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And what's it like because he does have a famous dad,
James Bray Sure, Like was James like, guys, like, I'm
kind of getted, I'm getting drawn into this as well?
Or is he just like listen if that's if you know,
keep doing what you want to do. Well.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
To be honest with you, Henry and James don't really
have much of relationship, so he wasn't a part of
the process at all. But yeah, the rest of Henry's
family is super supportive, so that's all we care about.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, And are we planning the wedding? Have we got
a date?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Where are you up to?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
So, look, most of the wedding is planned at the moment,
which is good because I think as soon as I
got engaged, I was like, we need to plan this
so that I can chill.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
For the next year.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, So pretty much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Have everything organized.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
It's going to be in Gold Coast and it's going
to be in October next year, so about a year
from now.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
And if anyone can organize a wedding, we clearly have
learned that your admin skills are second to none. So
you're like, you're the perfect wedding planet. It's going to
be wonderful from start to finish.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So true.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But are you thinking, like, all right, let's just make
bank while we can set ourselves up for a beautiful
life and then retire or do you see this as
a long term thing.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I think I'm going to keep doing this until I
don't find it fun anymore. I think, like I said,
I've just never had a job that I've been so
passionate about.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know. I like what I'm doing for women as.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Well, which a lot of people will think that that's
silly of me to say, but I'm trying to show
that women can be sexual and that, you know, trying
to get rid of that stigma with being sexual as
a woman. And that's really something that I'm passionate about.
I love the work that I do. I love the
freedom it gives me. Obviously the money is great, but
it makes me happy. And I think I'll just keep
doing it until it doesn't make me happy anymore, or
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there's something else they want to do, or you know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Well, good luck with the wedding, good luck with the
next tax return. They both seem really exciting. You're a
lot going on in your life, and we thank you
so much for coming on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thank you any thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
This week, we have been sent a question from a
listener who is stressed out. She's written, Dear Jana, I've
been with my boyfriend for two years and we've lived together. Lately,
he's become convinced that I'm cheating with a colleague from
worka man with a baby no less mmm. The colleague
has occasionally sent me totally innocent messages from our work platform,
(14:08):
like asking me what my plans were over the holidays,
which my partner thought was sly. He demanded to see
my phone, scrolled through our messages soaked for a week,
and now snoops on my computer after finding a brief
work call in my history. He called me a liar
because I've deleted old work chats to avoid yet more drama.
(14:28):
He hasn't spoken to me in days and accuses me
of being unfaithful, no matter how much I reassure him.
How do I convince my partner that I'm not cheating
and that the constant accusations are tearing us apart?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I mean, this feels like a really simple one to answer.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well, it's not. Do you know why?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Because we women, controlling traits come in slowly in relationships.
They come in little bit by little bit, until before
you know it, you're giving away your password and just
making life easy by letting them look through your phone.
He is being ridiculous. But here's my genuine theory. This
man is cheating on you. This man whoever shouts the
(15:08):
loudest is always doing it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And here's why. Because he knows how easy it is
to cheat on her.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And so then you become paranoid and you're like, well,
if I'm getting away with it, surely she can get
away with it.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
If I'm doing it, she must be doing it too.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So she could be just this gorgeous woman having the
best time in the office.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Which is perfectly allowed. Yes, but he's dodgy. She's not dodgy.
He's dodgy.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, but she's allowing it because she is letting him
look through her phone.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
She is letting him go through his computer.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You need to set some boundaries and say this is
all in your head. I'm not taking on your paranoid energy.
I'd also be asking what are you up to to
make you this paranoid? And no, you won't be allowed
to go through my phone anymore. No you're not looking
at my computer. If you have an issue with it,
well then it's time to see a therapist.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Or we need to call it.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, flick him instead of trying to convince him, Just
get rid of him because he sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But the problem is, I've seen so many friends this
has happened to them because these guys start they start slow,
like I think you're cheating on me? Or why is
that guy messaging you? And then over time it builds
up and it builds up and you get so used
to them controlling you.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
You don't even realize that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And you don't even realize that this guy is completely
controlling your life.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But your friends do because we see it.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
All the time, and so does Janna on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
So annoying.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Tell this guy one I'll be going through his band
because he's definitely cheating, but I don't know big red
flags get rid.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Of him done, just like that case clothes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Tonight, we are cracking open the mystery of modern marriage
with the man who has seen it all. He's New
York's most famous divorce attorney. He has sat across from billionaires,
rock stars, and regular couples who could not make it work.
So why do people cheat, why do great marriages die?
And what really happens when love turns into lawyers?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
James Sexton is.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Here and he's about to tell us all the secrets
that save relationships and the mistakes that blow them up.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Buckle up, Welcome James.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
One thing you said to me the other day, which
I've told so many people because I think it's genius,
is you said that Apple is keeping your business alive.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's paying yeatime.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Absolutely, So the integration of Apple devices is responsible for
more people being caught cheating than any other technology in
the history of mankind.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's absolutely shocking.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like you know, Apple keeps trying to, for very understandable purposes,
create an integration between their devices. So like you're on
you know, one website on your phone and now you
open your iPad and it's right there on your iPad,
And then you open your laptop and now it's on
your laptop. And as a dedicated you know Apple Devot,
I buy everything they make the minute they make.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
These are the newest air pods on the newest phone.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I love their stuff, and so I'm not taking
the piss out of them. But they really are always
pushing you to integrate all of their devices. And the
problem is this has now done, is it creates all
of these occasions where children, for example, are sitting and
playing with an iPad that's connected to the family account,
(18:21):
and all of a sudden, dad's text messages with his
mistress are popping up on the screen in real time,
and the little kid goes, Mommy, why is my game
getting interrupted? Mom comes over and all of a sudden,
she's looking at a photograph of her husband's penis.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Oh God, that happened to a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
She watched in real time as her partner was trying
to meet up with an escort because she had his
iPad which was connected to his bone.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And people sometimes will sit on this stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Like I'll have someone who comes in and goes, Yeah,
he doesn't realize it, but his I message keeps coming
up on the iPad, and so I've been following it
and I'm like, oh, like for the last couple of
days and they're like no, for the last four months. Wow,
And all I can think is wow. Like people accuse
me of being a sociopath, Like, how do.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You sit across this guy at breakfast?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Do you think women are smarter when it comes to cheating.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, I've always said that that men cheat. Men cheat more, maybe,
but women cheat much smarter and much better. Like they're like,
if a woman's gonna have a.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Cheap meal, it's gonna be a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know, Like a man like a woman, Like, we'll
find the perfect partner. It's the personal trainer. She's got
her eye on for a while, and then she'll figure
out a way, and then it'll be at this hotel
and then they'll be dinner, and it'll be it'll be
a whole thing. A guy, it's like I saw this
girl out back behind a dumpster, and you know, and
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they're just that's it, you know. So yeah, it's it's
they cheat differently, but the women cheat better.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I would say I've also heard that a woman will
start organizing her separation like a year before she actually
has a conversation with him and says, I'm out, whereas
men will be.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Like, it's done, I'm over, and they'll do it quickly.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Whereas women have been like, you know, putting money aside,
preparing emotionally so that when they do get divorced, they're
not crying anymore, they're mentally done.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Do you find that.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, I found that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, look, I think a lot of men it's
like they go out for milk and never come back. Yeah,
Like it just is almost an impulsive decision to some degree,
whereas women it's very often like a professional hit.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Now you are big on prenups.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
There was one prenup you did, which I bring it
up all the time because it's so iconic.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Can you tell us about it? It's bonkers.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yes, I did a prenup.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was the attorney who represented the party, the husband
who wanted to keep the prenup pallid. He was guy
in finance. He just he didn't really have much of
a personality. So there was really nothing about this guy
except that he had a net worth well in the
hundreds of millions, and he married a woman who was
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stunningly beautiful. And the prenup said, for every ten pounds
that she gained from the date of marriage, she would
forfeit ten thousand dollars a month of alimony. And in
fact she had gained from the date of marriage somewhere
in the area of like twenty pounds roughly, and so
(21:36):
instead of getting seventy thousand dollars a month, she was
going to get fifty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Now, mind you, this is still a good amount of money.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Plus she got several million dollars worth of property.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But rightfully she challenged it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But what the judge said is she said, yeah, this
is a boorish clause.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I don't know why you would marry a person who
made you sign this, but it's a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, I was going to say, is that the craziest
thing you've seen in divorce court?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But you've had people who spent.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh god, no, tell us some other ones.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Because these are my favorite stories to listen to.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I mean, I will tell you, doing this job for
twenty five years, you see good people at their worst.
I just finished a case where a guy went from
being a very successful professional who was making you know,
several hundred thousand dollars a year and was very much
in the black in terms of like they'd saved some money,
(22:33):
and without his wife's knowledge, he started going on TikTok.
And you can give away on TikTok money to other people,
so they have these things like lions and universes and galaxies.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
This guy, in sixty.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Days spent nine hundred thousand dollars on TikTok just giving
it away, just giving it away, mostly to very attractive
young women in Brazil and Colombia, nine hundred thousand dollars.
He went from them having a half a million dollars
(23:12):
saved up to him being roughly.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Three four hundred thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They call that bandigmatized leading with your.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Dick, But I mean, do you know, listen, guys, I'm
not I'm never one to shame sex workers. You could
buy a lot of actual sex for nine hundred thousand dollars, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Nine hundred thousand dollars, I might have sex with that guy,
like I have a price, and.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's probably less than nine hundred thousand dollars, Like I'm
fifty three.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I never used to like broccoli. Now I love it.
Maybe I'll do the second half day. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like I looked at that, I was like nine hundred
brand to not have sex.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Now you've seen the worst, the worst of relationships. But
what if three things that will guarantee a couple will
be sitting in front of you asking for a divorce.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, Oh that's it much easier.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean definitely, it's more important to
be right than to be happy. Like, always win, Always
want to win every argument. Always make sure that you're right,
Like that's the most But that should be the priority
in your relationship, is that you are right and you
won the fight. Number two, I think constructive criticism is
(24:27):
still criticism. I genuinely believe that you should be very
careful about criticizing your partner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And you can always tell, like when you go to
a dinner party with those couples that are just nagging
each other and I'm like, this is oh my god,
it's horrible, And.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
When they do it in front of people, like I
have to tell you. That's another one is that in
front of other people, I'll leave them nameless.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But I have a friend who's a celebrity and he's been.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Married to place all.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Right, So Joe Rogan has been married a really long time.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Joe Rogan's wife when he is talking, she looks at
him like she's just his biggest fan.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
In the whole wide world.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And I don't know if it's real or if it's
an artifice, or if it's like that there's something about
that that like when you see it in people, it's
so lovely, like to feel like this person is like
this person's cheerleader.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
In your opinion, what is the best way to prepare
for divorce so that it doesn't end upt.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think it's very useful to have a conversation with
a lawyer sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like people come into.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
My office and they'll they'll very sheepishly say, you know,
I'm not actually looking to fire a the divorce right now.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I just want to get information.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And I say to them, like, this is the best
possible time to be here, because I want you to
understand your rights and obligations potentially in all the different ways,
all the different paths that person might choose to separate
or divorce, and then I want you to go think
about these things and decide, by the way, if you
can save your marriage and fix it, go go do that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh my gosh, I could talk about this all day.
Sadly we don't have one.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, you'll have to invite.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
We'll have to second day, No, I know, third or four.
That was incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think everyone's going to start paying attention to their
marriages and their relationship.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I mean, I'll put myself out of a job, but
that would be fine with me. I'd have to find
something else interesting to do for a living.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And everyone's going to be double checking their iPhones and
their eye clouds and their I pads.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Are going to be.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Like Sexton told me, I've.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Never felt more smug being single. Thank you so much, James.
We're definitely getting you back on and.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I love any time I can't say no to you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You're a superstarle.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
We appreciate you joining us on Soulcy Secrets.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It was a pleasure absolutely Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Take care.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Now, poor boy, Hussah.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I need a deep breath because last night I had
an experience with a man that ended with.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Me calling him the sea word. I was so angry.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So the backstory is I went out with a girlfriend
and we were having lots of drinks and having fun,
and then we caught up with her partner and his
best friend for a late dinner.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Fine, I've never met this guy the best friend. Before
he sat down, he was kind of a short king.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
He had these glasses that didn't have lenses in them.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
They were like glasses with lenses, which I just think,
he's so cringe.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But I was like, okay, he's wasn't a sea word?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Was it cringe? Another one? Good?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
He was short and he it was like he was
trying to be artie to reflect from him being shot
saw hipster, saw hipster? Fine, whatever, we sit down.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
He's a surgeon.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Interesting, My stepdad's a surgeon, so I and I was
asking him interesting questions.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
About his career. What do you do?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then he goes, what do you do? And I
was like, oh, I'm a sex columnist and.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
He was like oh what. I was like, I write
about sex. I do personally, like I love telling people
that because.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I love seeing their faces. He's like, oh, who do
you write for? And I was like, well, I was
writing for the New York Post. Now I'm writing for
Daily Mail. He goes, oh, that's a cute blog. I said,
excuse me, what, and he goes, you write for a
cute blog.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Now here's my mistake. I reacted.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I should have just gone all right, shot king and
left it there. But I was like, it's not a
cute blog. And I think because he saw my reaction.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
He knew that he could get under your skin.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
He was getting on my skin, Burl was giving him attention.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now, for those don't know, this is an age old
dating technique called nagging, and it was first written about
in a book called The Game, a deeply, deeply toxic
book called The Game by Neil Strauss back in like
the early two thousands. It became a New York number
one best seller.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
So I'm assuming it's like intentionally being negative to the
person you're on a date with to try and make
them want to impress you.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, so this book was created because it's manipulative techniques
to get women into bed. And Nil Strauss was a
very ugly pick up artist, but he would get like
tens like models, and so one of his.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Techniques was exactly that. It was in the book, it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Was called nagging, and so it's like purposely putting a
woman down so she feels like, oh wait, you don't
think I'm that good.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'm going to prove to you.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Try to mean, keep him keen. Isn't that the old
school saying basically.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
That exactly exactly, Except that doesn't work on me.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So it doesn't work on anyone who has a good
self esteem, who's perfectly aware of who they are. It
does work on women who are probably a little fragile,
have maybe recently.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Got dumped, who are easy to manipulate.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But he came to the wrong woman about theirs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So all night he just kept following me around and
being like, tell us about your little blog, tell us
about your little blog. And then he just did it
one too many times and I ended up turning around.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And being like you're in affan see and.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Storming off, and the whole party went ooh.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
And it didn't it didn't work out well for him.
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Speaker 5 (31:02):
We got through a lot today.
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Bye Secrets.
What are some tax deductions working only for people who
don't know text toys?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I can claim you know bed sheets or like a bed.
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He demanded to see my phone scrolled through our messages
soaked for a week and now snoops on my computer
and all of.
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A sudden, Dad's text messages with his mistress are popping.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Up on the screen in real time.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Su Secrets Welcome back to another Saucy Secrets episode.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
What a show we have planned.
Speaker 6 (00:28):
Tonight, unexhausted and hasn't even started yet tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I know I'm looking at the run sheets and if
but coming up next. You may remember we spoke to
Bonnie Blue Lives.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
You may be definitely remembered because you watched it on
YouTube obviously, which is where we are, like subscribe Saucy Secrets,
and you definitely also listen to the podcast on the
Your Hat Radio episode not you made you definitely.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You definitely did. And you will remember there was one
person we were not allowed to ask her about. Well,
we've got that person on the show today.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
This is serious journalism.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
We near give someone a rite of reply if they've
been thrown under a bus by a previous guest.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I've been told this person is coming in hot,
they're going to pull punch.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Oh yes, this person is Annie Knight and she's on
the show next tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're going behind the velvet rope with someone who has
made her body, her brand, and her voice the ultimate powerhouse.
She's an only fans, creator, content queen, and someone who
has turned her sensuality into beck. She's Any Knight, and
we're about to get real about sex, money, fame, boundaries,
and how to survive when everything you do is under
a lens. If you've ever wondered what it's like to
(01:40):
work boldly into your desire, this one's for you.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Welcome, any Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my gosh, we're so excited to chat to you.
You have been iconic on Daily Mail, who I write for.
I feel like every second day there's an article on
what you're doing, and I wanted to ask you right
off the bat. I just did an interview with Bonnie Blue,
and one of the no go areas for chatting with
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her was I wasn't allowed to ask her any questions about.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
You, and I want to know why what happened? What's
the beef?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
I don't, I don't really know why other than like
she probably knows that she's the one in the wrong
in the situation, doesn't want to draw attention to that.
But yeah, Bonnie and I were friends for like a
couple of years at least. We did schools together. We
kind of you know, we were operating very similar spaces,
and we worked together many times.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We went to Fiji together, we went to cancerun together.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Will always rode respectful of each other's careers and all
of that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And yeah, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
I guess one day she lost her only fans account,
and instead of you know, trying to draw attention to
the fact that she lost her account, she tried to
get me and a bunch of other creators banned from
the platform as well. And so that for me, it
was just like, Okay, why would you do that, We're
not friends, We're done.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Oh that's not a girl's girl at all.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I know, it's super disappointing.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, and have you reached out to her to be
like what the heck?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, So it was kind of a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
There was a thing something happened before that I went
to hospital, and she used that against me in the
media saying like, well, at least I don't cry and
go to hospital and all this stuff after challenges, and
I was like, oh, could you not have given me
the heads up? So I messaged her and I was like, Hey,
what's this about?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know what's going on?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
She was like, oh, sorry, probably should have given you
the heads up, but blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And I was like, oh, whatever, I'll let it go.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah, and then yeah, after that that sort of it
kind of escalated from there, and yeah, I don't know,
just I just couldn't forgive her once you tried to
get me banned from the platform.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well that's not statistically correct because I watched her documentary
and she actually she said, yeah, you might have cried after,
you know, one of your recent videos, but she had
to take a whole week off after she slept with
her thousand men because she got so sick.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So that's a big fat lie, Bonnie Blue Cool.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I just had another thought then, when you were saying,
you know, you had been to Cancun, and you'd been
to Fiji and you've been to schoolies.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Now, when I write an article overseas, I can tax it.
Can you tax.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Your trips to schoolies and can coon and things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Absolutely that was all tax deductible. It was all work.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
So yeah, I mean, you know I was over there
promoting myself and you know, marketing and all that kind
of thing, and obviously, yeah, like filming with the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So it's all a tax reduction.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I want to know, what are some tax deductions working
only friends?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
People don't know this claim?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So, I mean you can claim a lot like I
can claim getting my makeup done, getting my hair done,
just the basic stuff obviously, travel, accommodation, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But like sex toys, I can claim you know.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Bed sheets or like a bed, anything that's like to
do with with my work really, so like panties. I'll
buy loads of underwear to send to guys, and so
you know, that's all the tax deduction lingerie.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, it's pretty well.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I'm not going to try and help you wrout the
tax system here. But if you wanted to renovate the apartment,
renovate the house. Maybe you're filming a new scene in
the lounge room, but the couch you got not quite right,
so you've got to buy a new couch. Oh wait,
the TV in the back of the shot doesn't quite
fit the aesthetic. We've got to get a brand new TV.
You could redo the whole joint if you wanted to
and claim it on your tax.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
There is a few like office type things or like
because I use you know, a room for filming and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So yeah, you can claim quite a bit, but I
do think there are limits.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Did you think you'd be on the show to talks
about your tax return? By the way, was that was
that one of the questions you thought you'd bend? Now
you obviously said you know that there isn't really a
relationship now with you and Bonnie, but I feel like
we've got to if there was something that you wanted
to say to her. Is there a message or is
there anything that you've got to say or is that
all now water under the bridge and that that has
closed essentially for you?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I wish her all the best.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I you know, I understand that her situation's tough and
that you know, getting better from only fans would have
been just like horrific, it would have been horrible. She's
LOSTO many sources of income, So yeah, I just hope
she's doing well. And she's happy and she's you know,
treating people well and.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
With these stunts because they are pretty wild, I know
for her the thousand men gang bank, she says it
really is one of her kinks. Do you see it
as more of a stunt when you do these kind
of things or is it a kink for you? It
was obviously like beneficial both ways, Like it's I found
it super fun. I was nervous beforehand, but when I
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was there, I had a great time, and I think.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That like that shows and the videos.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
But yeah, obviously at the same time, like the amount
of media and publicity that comes with it is such
a good kickback to my only fans.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I think it's kind of both for me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And when it comes to organizing a giant gang bang.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Talk about the admin.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Let's have an admin chat now, I could attack for two.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't even mean for it to be so what's
the tax? Like, no, I'm just doing now any you're
engaged to someone with a very famous father here in Australia,
idea desperate to know how that's playing out.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
We'll do that next more with any night.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's some stuff behind the scenes that people wouldn't know
goes into a giant stunt like this.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Yeah, I think, like that's the crazy thing about not
just doing a stunt. Like my job in general, there's
just a lot of admin. Like people think all day
all I'm doing is taking photos and filming. It's like, no,
the admin's crazy, especially for a big event. So I
had to go and order like a thousand balaclavas.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I had to order a thousand.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Custom made condoms because I wanted them to have my
face on them. I had to order like wristbands, and
I had to get sharpies at Texters to write numbers
on people and print out a thousand release forms.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I had to hire eleven staff members to be there
on the day.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
I had to hire a venue and it was not
easy finding a venue that would accommodate for such things.
So ended up going with the Swingers Club, who are
happy to have me. But yeah, it took it took
a lot of money and time to organize, and there
were you know, on the day, everything went pretty smoothly.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
But my fluffer. Do you guys know what a fluffer is?
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Tell us about the fluffer.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No, So, a fluffer is someone that when you're doing
something like this, they basically are there to just get
the guys ready so that when they get to you
they're all ready to go.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
They're hard to stick it for it there.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You can say it on the show. Don't worry, go nuts,
Go nuts.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So what does a fluffer do? Like, do they just
like show their boobies? What did they do?
Speaker 7 (08:44):
They do a lot of stuff with their mouths, so yeah,
that's mostly enhanced.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, so they do blowjobs.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They give them work blow jobs.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
They're basically like unfortunately they're doing a lot of the work,
but thet it that comes along.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
With it, that would be insane.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh yeah, and that's like true.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
How do you pitch that job to someone when you say, hey,
I'm looking for a fluffer on set, this is what
it's gonna take, this is what the job entails. How
do you find that person?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So hard?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
I went on like a bunch of escorting websites. I
messaged friends of mine, like not friends of mine in
the industry of and asked just like hates people, and
I was like, if we get you know, like five
or six.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Then it won't be as hard work. And no one
wanted to do it.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
I offered like extreme amounts of money and no one
would do it, and so I was like, oh, what
are we gonna do? And I kind of given up
on it. And then I had this girl message me.
She saw my posts and was like, hey, oh my god,
I would love to be a fluffer and I was like, amazing,
let's do it. And then two days before I messaged
her and like, she didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So I was like, oh my god, if she fails,
this is not going to be good.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
And then sure enough on the day she didn't show up.
So I had to be my own fluffer. Which was
the hardest.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Part was that, like I was doing, there was so
much going on it.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Once I had was using my mouth, my hands, everything,
and my jaw was very so at the end of the.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Day, Wow, now you have a fiance. Was he a
fan before you met or was he a friend or
how did that come about?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah, so we've known each other actually for like ten
years now, so yeah, we started working together and kind
of had a little fling and then stopped that and
just stayed friends and have been friends for like ten years.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And then it was earlier this year that.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Yeah, he sort of was like, I think we should
be together, and I was like I think so too.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And how does he So he was around when you
did the stump with over five hundred people, how did
what was his.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Reaction to that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I mean obviously like he's through.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
He's been there from the start, Like when I first
started only friends in twenty twenty. You know, he was
the person that I call him like, oh my god,
this happened today, or this happened today. So he and
he's seen I guess the amount of effort and energy
and time and just like the drive that I've had
with this and you've seen my career grow, and he's
so proud of that.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
How does he take it?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like has he got any of the flack from people
who have strong opinions about you? Like has it kind
of bounced off onto him as well?
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Yeah, it was actually kind of sad because we got
engaged more overseas at the time, and so we're in
our little like love bubble. We're having such a fun time,
and then it was like what should have been such
a beautiful time for us was kind of like tainted
by you know, all these people's opinions. And I think, yeah,
like the comments that Henry was getting it were horrific
and he went down to Adelaide for like a footy
(11:33):
weekend with his mates and just got like berated by
people at the football ground just coming up to him,
calling him names, calling me names like really awful.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So that was pretty tough.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
But he's obviously you know, he's getting thicker skin as
time and he goes on.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And what's it like because he does have a famous dad,
James Bray Sure, Like was James like, guys, like, I'm
kind of getted, I'm getting drawn into this as well?
Or is he just like listen if that's if you know,
keep doing what you want to do. Well.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
To be honest with you, Henry and James don't really
have much of relationship, so he wasn't a part of
the process at all. But yeah, the rest of Henry's
family is super supportive, so that's all we care about.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, And are we planning the wedding? Have we got
a date?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Where are you up to?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
So, look, most of the wedding is planned at the moment,
which is good because I think as soon as I
got engaged, I was like, we need to plan this
so that I can chill.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
For the next year.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, So pretty much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Have everything organized.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
It's going to be in Gold Coast and it's going
to be in October next year, so about a year
from now.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
And if anyone can organize a wedding, we clearly have
learned that your admin skills are second to none. So
you're like, you're the perfect wedding planet. It's going to
be wonderful from start to finish.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So true.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But are you thinking, like, all right, let's just make
bank while we can set ourselves up for a beautiful
life and then retire or do you see this as
a long term thing.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I think I'm going to keep doing this until I
don't find it fun anymore. I think, like I said,
I've just never had a job that I've been so
passionate about.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know. I like what I'm doing for women as.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Well, which a lot of people will think that that's
silly of me to say, but I'm trying to show
that women can be sexual and that, you know, trying
to get rid of that stigma with being sexual as
a woman. And that's really something that I'm passionate about.
I love the work that I do. I love the
freedom it gives me. Obviously the money is great, but
it makes me happy. And I think I'll just keep
doing it until it doesn't make me happy anymore, or
(13:28):
there's something else they want to do, or you know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Well, good luck with the wedding, good luck with the
next tax return. They both seem really exciting. You're a
lot going on in your life, and we thank you
so much for coming on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Thank you any thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
This week, we have been sent a question from a
listener who is stressed out. She's written, Dear Jana, I've
been with my boyfriend for two years and we've lived together. Lately,
he's become convinced that I'm cheating with a colleague from
worka man with a baby no less mmm. The colleague
has occasionally sent me totally innocent messages from our work platform,
(14:08):
like asking me what my plans were over the holidays,
which my partner thought was sly. He demanded to see
my phone, scrolled through our messages soaked for a week,
and now snoops on my computer after finding a brief
work call in my history. He called me a liar
because I've deleted old work chats to avoid yet more drama.
(14:28):
He hasn't spoken to me in days and accuses me
of being unfaithful, no matter how much I reassure him.
How do I convince my partner that I'm not cheating
and that the constant accusations are tearing us apart?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I mean, this feels like a really simple one to answer.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well, it's not. Do you know why?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Because we women, controlling traits come in slowly in relationships.
They come in little bit by little bit, until before
you know it, you're giving away your password and just
making life easy by letting them look through your phone.
He is being ridiculous. But here's my genuine theory. This
man is cheating on you. This man whoever shouts the
(15:08):
loudest is always doing it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And here's why. Because he knows how easy it is
to cheat on her.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And so then you become paranoid and you're like, well,
if I'm getting away with it, surely she can get
away with it.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
If I'm doing it, she must be doing it too.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So she could be just this gorgeous woman having the
best time in the office.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Which is perfectly allowed. Yes, but he's dodgy. She's not dodgy.
He's dodgy.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, but she's allowing it because she is letting him
look through her phone.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
She is letting him go through his computer.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You need to set some boundaries and say this is
all in your head. I'm not taking on your paranoid energy.
I'd also be asking what are you up to to
make you this paranoid? And no, you won't be allowed
to go through my phone anymore. No you're not looking
at my computer. If you have an issue with it,
well then it's time to see a therapist.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Or we need to call it.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, flick him instead of trying to convince him, Just
get rid of him because he sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But the problem is, I've seen so many friends this
has happened to them because these guys start they start slow,
like I think you're cheating on me? Or why is
that guy messaging you? And then over time it builds
up and it builds up and you get so used
to them controlling you.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
You don't even realize that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And you don't even realize that this guy is completely
controlling your life.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But your friends do because we see it.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
All the time, and so does Janna on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
So annoying.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Tell this guy one I'll be going through his band
because he's definitely cheating, but I don't know big red
flags get rid.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Of him done, just like that case clothes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Tonight, we are cracking open the mystery of modern marriage
with the man who has seen it all. He's New
York's most famous divorce attorney. He has sat across from billionaires,
rock stars, and regular couples who could not make it work.
So why do people cheat, why do great marriages die?
And what really happens when love turns into lawyers?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
James Sexton is.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Here and he's about to tell us all the secrets
that save relationships and the mistakes that blow them up.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Buckle up, Welcome James.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
One thing you said to me the other day, which
I've told so many people because I think it's genius,
is you said that Apple is keeping your business alive.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's paying yeatime.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Absolutely, So the integration of Apple devices is responsible for
more people being caught cheating than any other technology in
the history of mankind.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's absolutely shocking.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like you know, Apple keeps trying to, for very understandable purposes,
create an integration between their devices. So like you're on
you know, one website on your phone and now you
open your iPad and it's right there on your iPad,
And then you open your laptop and now it's on
your laptop. And as a dedicated you know Apple Devot,
I buy everything they make the minute they make.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
These are the newest air pods on the newest phone.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I love their stuff, and so I'm not taking
the piss out of them. But they really are always
pushing you to integrate all of their devices. And the
problem is this has now done, is it creates all
of these occasions where children, for example, are sitting and
playing with an iPad that's connected to the family account,
(18:21):
and all of a sudden, dad's text messages with his
mistress are popping up on the screen in real time,
and the little kid goes, Mommy, why is my game
getting interrupted? Mom comes over and all of a sudden,
she's looking at a photograph of her husband's penis.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Oh God, that happened to a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
She watched in real time as her partner was trying
to meet up with an escort because she had his
iPad which was connected to his bone.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And people sometimes will sit on this stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Like I'll have someone who comes in and goes, Yeah,
he doesn't realize it, but his I message keeps coming
up on the iPad, and so I've been following it
and I'm like, oh, like for the last couple of
days and they're like no, for the last four months. Wow,
And all I can think is wow. Like people accuse
me of being a sociopath, Like, how do.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You sit across this guy at breakfast?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Do you think women are smarter when it comes to cheating.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, I've always said that that men cheat. Men cheat more, maybe,
but women cheat much smarter and much better. Like they're like,
if a woman's gonna have a.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Cheap meal, it's gonna be a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know, Like a man like a woman, Like, we'll
find the perfect partner. It's the personal trainer. She's got
her eye on for a while, and then she'll figure
out a way, and then it'll be at this hotel
and then they'll be dinner, and it'll be it'll be
a whole thing. A guy, it's like I saw this
girl out back behind a dumpster, and you know, and
(19:55):
they're just that's it, you know. So yeah, it's it's
they cheat differently, but the women cheat better.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I would say I've also heard that a woman will
start organizing her separation like a year before she actually
has a conversation with him and says, I'm out, whereas
men will be.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Like, it's done, I'm over, and they'll do it quickly.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Whereas women have been like, you know, putting money aside,
preparing emotionally so that when they do get divorced, they're
not crying anymore, they're mentally done.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Do you find that.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, I found that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, look, I think a lot of men it's
like they go out for milk and never come back. Yeah,
Like it just is almost an impulsive decision to some degree,
whereas women it's very often like a professional hit.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Now you are big on prenups.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
There was one prenup you did, which I bring it
up all the time because it's so iconic.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Can you tell us about it? It's bonkers.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yes, I did a prenup.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was the attorney who represented the party, the husband
who wanted to keep the prenup pallid. He was guy
in finance. He just he didn't really have much of
a personality. So there was really nothing about this guy
except that he had a net worth well in the
hundreds of millions, and he married a woman who was
(21:12):
stunningly beautiful. And the prenup said, for every ten pounds
that she gained from the date of marriage, she would
forfeit ten thousand dollars a month of alimony. And in
fact she had gained from the date of marriage somewhere
in the area of like twenty pounds roughly, and so
(21:36):
instead of getting seventy thousand dollars a month, she was
going to get fifty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Now, mind you, this is still a good amount of money.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Plus she got several million dollars worth of property.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But rightfully she challenged it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But what the judge said is she said, yeah, this
is a boorish clause.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I don't know why you would marry a person who
made you sign this, but it's a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, I was going to say, is that the craziest
thing you've seen in divorce court?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But you've had people who spent.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh god, no, tell us some other ones.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Because these are my favorite stories to listen to.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I mean, I will tell you, doing this job for
twenty five years, you see good people at their worst.
I just finished a case where a guy went from
being a very successful professional who was making you know,
several hundred thousand dollars a year and was very much
in the black in terms of like they'd saved some money,
(22:33):
and without his wife's knowledge, he started going on TikTok.
And you can give away on TikTok money to other people,
so they have these things like lions and universes and galaxies.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
This guy, in sixty.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Days spent nine hundred thousand dollars on TikTok just giving
it away, just giving it away, mostly to very attractive
young women in Brazil and Colombia, nine hundred thousand dollars.
He went from them having a half a million dollars
(23:12):
saved up to him being roughly.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Three four hundred thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They call that bandigmatized leading with your.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Dick, But I mean, do you know, listen, guys, I'm
not I'm never one to shame sex workers. You could
buy a lot of actual sex for nine hundred thousand dollars, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Nine hundred thousand dollars, I might have sex with that guy,
like I have a price, and.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's probably less than nine hundred thousand dollars, Like I'm
fifty three.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I never used to like broccoli. Now I love it.
Maybe I'll do the second half day. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like I looked at that, I was like nine hundred
brand to not have sex.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Now you've seen the worst, the worst of relationships. But
what if three things that will guarantee a couple will
be sitting in front of you asking for a divorce.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, Oh that's it much easier.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean definitely, it's more important to
be right than to be happy. Like, always win, Always
want to win every argument. Always make sure that you're right,
Like that's the most But that should be the priority
in your relationship, is that you are right and you
won the fight. Number two, I think constructive criticism is
(24:27):
still criticism. I genuinely believe that you should be very
careful about criticizing your partner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And you can always tell, like when you go to
a dinner party with those couples that are just nagging
each other and I'm like, this is oh my god,
it's horrible, And.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
When they do it in front of people, like I
have to tell you. That's another one is that in
front of other people, I'll leave them nameless.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But I have a friend who's a celebrity and he's been.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Married to place all.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Right, So Joe Rogan has been married a really long time.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Joe Rogan's wife when he is talking, she looks at
him like she's just his biggest fan.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
In the whole wide world.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And I don't know if it's real or if it's
an artifice, or if it's like that there's something about
that that like when you see it in people, it's
so lovely, like to feel like this person is like
this person's cheerleader.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
In your opinion, what is the best way to prepare
for divorce so that it doesn't end upt.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think it's very useful to have a conversation with
a lawyer sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like people come into.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
My office and they'll they'll very sheepishly say, you know,
I'm not actually looking to fire a the divorce right now.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I just want to get information.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And I say to them, like, this is the best
possible time to be here, because I want you to
understand your rights and obligations potentially in all the different ways,
all the different paths that person might choose to separate
or divorce, and then I want you to go think
about these things and decide, by the way, if you
can save your marriage and fix it, go go do that.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh my gosh, I could talk about this all day.
Sadly we don't have one.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, you'll have to invite.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
We'll have to second day, No, I know, third or four.
That was incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think everyone's going to start paying attention to their
marriages and their relationship.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I mean, I'll put myself out of a job, but
that would be fine with me. I'd have to find
something else interesting to do for a living.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And everyone's going to be double checking their iPhones and
their eye clouds and their I pads.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Are going to be.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Like Sexton told me, I've.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Never felt more smug being single. Thank you so much, James.
We're definitely getting you back on and.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I love any time I can't say no to you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You're a superstarle.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
We appreciate you joining us on Soulcy Secrets.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It was a pleasure absolutely Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Take care.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Now, poor boy, Hussah.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I need a deep breath because last night I had
an experience with a man that ended with.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Me calling him the sea word. I was so angry.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So the backstory is I went out with a girlfriend
and we were having lots of drinks and having fun,
and then we caught up with her partner and his
best friend for a late dinner.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Fine, I've never met this guy the best friend. Before
he sat down, he was kind of a short king.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
He had these glasses that didn't have lenses in them.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
They were like glasses with lenses, which I just think,
he's so cringe.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But I was like, okay, he's wasn't a sea word?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Was it cringe? Another one? Good?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
He was short and he it was like he was
trying to be artie to reflect from him being shot
saw hipster, saw hipster? Fine, whatever, we sit down.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
He's a surgeon.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Interesting, My stepdad's a surgeon, so I and I was
asking him interesting questions.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
About his career. What do you do?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then he goes, what do you do? And I
was like, oh, I'm a sex columnist and.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
He was like oh what. I was like, I write
about sex. I do personally, like I love telling people
that because.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I love seeing their faces. He's like, oh, who do
you write for? And I was like, well, I was
writing for the New York Post. Now I'm writing for
Daily Mail. He goes, oh, that's a cute blog. I said,
excuse me, what, and he goes, you write for a
cute blog.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Now here's my mistake. I reacted.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I should have just gone all right, shot king and
left it there. But I was like, it's not a
cute blog. And I think because he saw my reaction.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
He knew that he could get under your skin.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
He was getting on my skin, Burl was giving him attention.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now, for those don't know, this is an age old
dating technique called nagging, and it was first written about
in a book called The Game, a deeply, deeply toxic
book called The Game by Neil Strauss back in like
the early two thousands. It became a New York number
one best seller.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
So I'm assuming it's like intentionally being negative to the
person you're on a date with to try and make
them want to impress you.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, so this book was created because it's manipulative techniques
to get women into bed. And Nil Strauss was a
very ugly pick up artist, but he would get like
tens like models, and so one of his.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Techniques was exactly that. It was in the book, it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Was called nagging, and so it's like purposely putting a
woman down so she feels like, oh wait, you don't
think I'm that good.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'm going to prove to you.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Try to mean, keep him keen. Isn't that the old
school saying basically.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
That exactly exactly, Except that doesn't work on me.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So it doesn't work on anyone who has a good
self esteem, who's perfectly aware of who they are. It
does work on women who are probably a little fragile,
have maybe recently.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Got dumped, who are easy to manipulate.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But he came to the wrong woman about theirs.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So all night he just kept following me around and
being like, tell us about your little blog, tell us
about your little blog. And then he just did it
one too many times and I ended up turning around.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And being like you're in affan see and.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Storming off, and the whole party went ooh.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
And it didn't it didn't work out well for him.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
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Well that's who I ended up going home with and
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it has been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
We got through a lot today.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Don't forget We're on YouTube, Mike Subscribe watch and you
can hear the entire show any night. And New York
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Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh No, a New York divorce attorney James Sexton, who
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On the iHeartRadio. Wait, we'll see you next week.
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