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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, cheeky one's heads up, Saucy Secrets is about
to start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
This isn't your average radio chat. It has adult themes
and some sexual references. We're diving into real confessions, spicy fantasies,
and some real jaw dropping stories. So if you're easily shocked,
maybe go find a gardening show. But if you're ready
for some fun, a little scandal and absolutely no judgment,
you're in the right safe place. Real people, real confessions.
(00:29):
It's Saucy Secrets. I'm kiss Saucy Secrets. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
If you thought that radio was a little bland, a
little vanilla, a little PC boyo boy oh boy, is
that about to change. Welcome to the first ever episode
of Saucy Secrets with Sex Relationship dating columnists Jenna Hockey.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I haven't slept all week.
This is I don't think people are prepared, but this
is an open, free, non judge mental place, unless we
decide to judge you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I mean, I've looked at the run sheet and I
know what we're doing on the show, and even I'm
not prepared. Got to by the way, before we start
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now, well, you've got a massive first show.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of saucy secrets coming up, including one of Okay, so
you're a you're a relationship dating a sex columnist for
many publications all around the world, and that involves you
going on some rather interesting and somewhat sourcy assignments.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I have the best job in the world. Yeah, basically
all the things that I got in trouble for at school,
don't talk about sex. I went to a Catholic.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Didn't pay for it?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now I get paid for it? Did The Chili Pepers
released a song called Catholic School Girls Rule apparently?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it checks out, it checks out?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
One of the many incredible adventures that you've been on
recently an orgasm retreat I did. Yeah, what happens at
one of these retreats? I'm assuming one of the things
that's in the title will get to that inter second.
But how do you become a sex columnist? And who
is Janat Hawking? We're going to do that next. We
(02:42):
thought we'd sort of kick off the show by sort
of introducing you, getting to know you and understanding what
it is and how does one become a dating and
sex commonists? So I guess getting to know you to
know bout you. So what I've done, I've come up
with a list of questions and I'm just going to
fire them at you, one by one so we can understand.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Who is Jenna Hawking? What makes for tick?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And how did she end up in this weird and
wonderful world of sex and dating?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's so fun?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
All right?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Question number one, how did you become a sex colmness?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, So I did study journalism in UNI, and then
I went off and went into TV and I was
a producer on The Bachelor get Away, World's Best Jobs
in the World, and then I was in radio and
I was dating this toxic toxic man, as you will
learn to discover, is my type.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I said to.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Him, I was looking at all these articles go up
on news dot com. I was like, I could write
an article like that, and he was like, you could not.
Oh my god, how embarrassing. You could never get an
article up there. And my little brain went ding ding
ding ding ding. Well, now I have to.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Get an article up there, really supportive guy.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So I was like, yoh yeah, here was the last
and so I was like, okay, what will get picked
up immediately? Like I need this up in the next
week just to prove a point. So I was like,
all right about my boobs. So I was graced with
a great set, Thank you mum, and I decided to
write this like a thousand words on why my boobs
(04:14):
can often get in the way. Okay, went viral, Yeah,
kicked off. They said, well, can we have some more articles?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I got you boobs or other things, like a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Them at the start were heavily based on my boobs.
I went for the low hanging fruit, and then I
started chronicling my dating life because obviously I kicked him
to the curve as soon as I could, and it
just went off from.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Their Have you ever had a walk of shame?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Because everyone's had a walk of shame, right, but a
walk of shame so good it was actually worth telling
people about this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
One went on national TV. Do you remember the Today
Show would do live from the Low GI's.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh yeah, crown plant come straight from the after party
to the Today Show set.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was so fast, It's my favorite moment in TV.
So I had been at the logis and hooked up
with a Home and a Ways star.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Obviously shout to rama.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That would be so hot and it's not a hard no.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Rayma sliding to the Daktok.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But it was like some tragic home and Away guy.
And the next morning I was like, oh god. My
hotel room was the opposite side of the foyer and
all the Today Show was set up in the foyer
and there is a video my mom saw it talk
about timing of me walking in the background of the
Today Show set, holding my high heels, the ball gown
(05:40):
from the night before and Muscara down my face trying
to discreetly get back to my hotel room.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's so grim, but so incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Who is the most famous person that you have had
special cuddles with?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I have slept with semberj just Sig, Sammy B, Sammy B.
And it came about in the craziest way. So I
was at a bar in King's Cross with two girlfriends
and he walked in fresh off his court case from
his ex wife going through their divorce, and he was
with his lawyer, Brian, and he spotted me. And a
(06:14):
week before I wrote an article that said why I'll
never date football players again, and sure, it just happened
to come out at the same time that he was
going through a very high profile divorce where his wife
took him to town saying what a terrible guy he was.
Now he came into this bar I was in in
King's Cross, took one look at me and went you
(06:37):
And I was like, oh God, and he goes you
wrote that article and he really went angry at me.
And my gorgeous little friend Jesse was with me, and
she's irish and fiery, and she took him to town
and was like, you leave her alone. She's allowed to
write whatever she wants. He felt so bad, like this
little five foot Irish girl took Sam, who's like what
(06:58):
six three eight hundred feet to town. He was shocked
and I just stood behind her, going yeah. So then
he felt so bad. So then he got a tray
of shots and brought them to our table and he's like,
I feel really bad. I'm sorry, let's do shots. And
then it just took off from them.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So what's what's the worst date you've been on?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Because I would assume some of the horror stories of
what make the best articles, right.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The worst date was a guy. This was before I
started writing about my dating life. He met him at
a ball will making eyes. Decided we were madly in
love within thirty seconds of chatting. But then he got
really drunk. He was a surfer and decided to show
me his party trick was, which was to take his
front teeth out because the surfboard had smacked him in
(07:45):
the face.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So he wasn't like ninety five years old and wearing
benches not.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yet, okay, like a million extime maybe, but no. This
guy was like a young, hot guy. And then halfway
through the night he just took his teeth out and
was giving me this big gummy grin. I was like, oh,
you're just so. Then my friend and I kind of
tried to exit and sit at a different table. And
then at the end of night he saw us leaving
and he chased us out to the uber, pulled his
(08:09):
pants down and said, you don't want some of this.
I did not want some of this?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Who said chivalry is dead? Now?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was going to ask, what's the one story you've
written that your mum.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just cannot go near. But I'm guessing that's probably most of.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Them, right, all of them. Yeah, my mom says to me,
I'm so proud of you, but I will never read
your articles. And I think that's a fair call. My
brother has me blocked on inside.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm assuming them that neither your brother, your mother, or
any member of your family went anywhere near the article
that involves you going to an orgasm retreat in the
Californian desert.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, but they were so proud.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Good well, mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Brother, listen to something else for a second, because we're
going to talk about that next. Growing up, most of
us go on camps and excursions and things like that.
But you recently went on a very different and type
of camper retreat, an orgasm retreat.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You haven't been on one now, I highly recommend it.
So this came about because I was a columns for
the New York Post and we got wind of a
story about women spending fifteen thousand dollars to go into
the middle of the Californian desert to learn how to orgasm. Okay,
and I just got an email off my editor that
(09:26):
simply said, you're going, and I was like WHOA. A
week later, I was on a flight to La picked
up a higher car, drove out into the middle of
the Californian desert and I was watching the houses slowly
disperse and the you know, doesert really open up? And
all I kept thinking was, well, this is where I
(09:47):
come to die, Like this is a bit sus So
eventually I found this ranch. It was beautiful, and I
arrived in Pamela the sexologist there she was when around
in lingerie and I was like, right, okay, just lean in.
You've come all this way cleaning, and she gathered all
(10:10):
the women around sixteen women. One man caught who's a
sexologist as well, and they basically said, all right, you've
all come here to learn. He had a really weird
way of putting it. They said how to It was
basically how to reach orgasm? Okay, and I was expecting,
really woo woo women like these women are spending fifteen
(10:33):
thousand dollars, so they were kind of Middle America rich housewives.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So let's backtrack just a second, because I want to
know what this place looks like, because I've got an
image in my head and it's something out of the
Fifty Shades of Gray movie, and it's a red room
with a giant felt couch and a wall of every
instrument on planet Earth?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What did it look like?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's pretty spot on. There are different rooms, so there's
one on one rooms and they're set up like ones
a cowboy room with sexy cowboy wear and other ones
just full of like cheetahprint and they kind of like,
I don't know if you've ever been to a brothel.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, okay, no, not my thing.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well I have that, honest simonicas and they each have
different rooms with different themes. That's what this was like,
it is very sexy, but it's also in the middle
of the desert. It's very strange.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I would imagine once you spent a bit of time
with all of these women, you probably go, oh, no, wait,
they're relatively normal people, which probably relaxed everyone because, like
you said, they're not these woo woo crazy types that
are completely different from you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What I found so interesting was a lot of them
were divorced, so they had come because they either hadn't
had an orgasm before, they'd been married for twenty years
and didn't know what good sex was. Others like their
husbands had left them for younger women and they were
feeling a little bit insecure, and so they were like, well,
if we're going back into the dating world, we want
to be good at sex. And then there was some
(11:59):
sader cases of women who had been had sexual trauma
and they were there to learn how to enjoy sex again.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So not so much for some people searching for something.
A lot of it was reclaiming something or taking something
back that had been taken from it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, as soon as we all figured out, because we
had to go around in a circle and tell our
story of why we were there, and I was like, well,
I want a front page story in the New York Post.
But everyone else when they told their stories, it really
bonded everyone. There was a seventy five year old woman
who'd been married twice and her biggest regret was with
her second husband before he died. She just wasn't interested
(12:33):
in sex. We were all crying because she was like,
I want to reclaim sex again and enjoy it. I
was like, yes, girl, she's getting on the data. She
was incredible. So there was like women. There was a
twenty two year old there and there was a seventy
five year old there.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So what happens at orgasm camp? And was it a success? There?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Are how many people were taking this course with.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Sean women, Pamela, the sexologists and caught the male.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sexologists fifteen thousand dollars to hopefully, you know, reach the
finish line.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, what happens at this kind of retreat?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean the question is what doesn't happen?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Good point? Where did it start? Then?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, it started with a tantric meditation and this is
when I went, oh, they're not mucking around here. So
you're told at brunch get into any clothes that make
you feel comfortable, or if you want to go naked.
And I was like, oh god, I've got a photography here,
I can I get naked. But a lot of the
(13:39):
women so everyone wore like cute lace underwear, cute lace bras,
but within minutes everyone had taken it off and didn't
know what for fifteen thousand dollars, just get naked.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You're going to do it to it properly?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Leaning Yeah, So first of all, we had to get
in groups, so we each had a partner and we
had to go back to back, and then we were
told to put our hands on our volve, and then
we had to rock back and forth and talk to
our volvers and tell them what we want to be
and what we think of our volvers. So I was
like boss, bitch, Queen of the jungle. I was like, yes, girl,
(14:19):
get it. And so everyone's chanting out all this stuff.
But then we got the gigglers, because what.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Did you hear other people saying to their volvers?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh my god, what didn't I hear?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
One girl started crying, She's like, I'm just really thankful
for you. Others were like, you bring children into this world.
But then we had to lie down on mats and
they put blind folds on us. Then you lie on
mats and the helpers and Court and Pamela go around
and at first they'll like.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Drag shells across your body. It's called somatic touch, so
you're finding out what turns you on. Or they'll do
like wooden claws really gently, and then they start upping
it and not. And so at one stage, with permission,
I had caught time my ankles and my wrists together.
It's called shabari rope play. Okay, it's a Japanese thing.
(15:11):
And then he pinned me up like a pressed ham
and then bent me over and growled in my ear.
And I should have hated it. I loved it, like, oh,
now I know we're into shabari play. But what I
didn't expect was while they were doing with the touch
and play, women actually started having orgasms straight away, straight away.
(15:32):
So then I was like, oh God, am I going
to reach one? Like should be trying, But I was
aware of the photographer, your post photographer taking pictures of
me and the women around me. So then that was
the first day, but then it went crazier. Day two
was when we really got into the nitty gritty. So
(15:53):
we were given notepads and we were told to take notes.
I was reading some to you before we started. The
whole point of the retreat is to expose you to
new ways to find an orgasmic state. Peking is building
arousal and then slowing down and then building again, like a.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Real change of pace I'm getting from.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The The reason I wrote those notes is because I
saw it play out in real life. So then Court
and Pamela.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Who are the workers, They're they're they're they're the instructors,
if you will, sex ologists.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yep, uh, he's ninety percent gay. Okay that he said
that ten percent is fun. She's married and her husband.
We're all in a temple. They get naked. He brings
her to orgasm.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What in front of you?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, we're all they're with our notepads. You just read
my notes. That's the notes they took as he was
bringing her to orgasm and her husband was out the
front the whole time, watering the gardens.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So you said earlier that there were almost breakout rooms
where you could go for one on one sessions. Yeah,
I'm assuming that there were women that could go for
one on one sessions with either of the sexologists, either both,
and that happened.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, that happens. That's for the fifteen thousand dollars. So
for three day retreats like seven hundred dollars, and the
only touching is the somatic touch where they like put
shells over you or whisper in your ear. For the
fifteen thousand dollars, you have one on one sessions, one
a day for seven days, if you choose whether they
will bring you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
To orgasm them all right, I feel like this is
the obvious question, and it's the question I wanted to
ask from the moment I saw this on a run sheet.
Did you climb Mount Overest? Did you reach the finish line?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I did not. I was the only girl at Orgasm
Camp not to reach an orgasm. No award, no gold medal,
and they did drive out of that desert, so disappointed
in myself in a week later.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
If that makes it doesn't count one hour in one
hour ago, I mean time flies when you're having find it.
It's been a wonderful first hour and we're still on
the air, which is quite incredible given what we've already
talked about.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Welcome to Saucy Secrets. This is our.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
First ever episode with dating and sex calmness. Janna hockeing, Hey,
feeling very comfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah yeah, I remember a happy place. That's seck good.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is also an educational show in case, in case
you were wondering, in case you're listening, in case you're watching,
and we're going to give you an education shortly about.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
How not to get caught in a brothel.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Very important.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, you know the dos and don'ts if you are
planning on making that decision in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We will do that in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But one of the things I guess that help you
become the sex and dating corners that you are today was,
you know, getting confessions from Instagram followers. And this is
kind of how this whole journey started, right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh yeah, I was just bored one Monday night and
I was like, I'm going to I've got a decent following.
They're all pretty open if they follow me, we want to.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Know all about here for it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah yeah, And so he just threw a question out
and said, tell me a saucy secret. You can be anonymous.
Told me secrets and I'll share them with the audience.
It really took off. Yeah, and through momentum, and then
every Monday, if I put them out even five minutes late,
people like, where are saucy secrets?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So what we thought we'd do on this show every
week you share some of your saucy secrets as well.
And we are literally starting with a bang tonight. Someone
that was married for a really, really really long time.
The marriage ends, she goes, let's have some fun, and thought,
I'm going to do it with two blocks.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
At sometimes why not.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I've rid in our first saucy secret. Next, I guess
this whole career that you've been able to create and
it's landed you here on the radio. Started with just
a simple Q and A on an Instagram one Monday night,
and look at where it's got to now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was lockdown. I was bored, I was slightly horny.
I wanted to know people's saucy secrets, so I asked
them and they came flowing in and now we've got
a national.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Radio showy, So we thought, let's let's get the DMS
onto the air to find out what's happening in the
bedrooms of those all around Australia and really exciting to say,
we have our what are we going to our first
saucy secret here?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Do we like that?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
She's popping our cherry and I'm very happy about it?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Good. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
What should we call her? Because she wants to be anonymous.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's a really sexy name. I was gonna say, Charlotte's
sexy name.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I keep thinking Candy Candy.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, would you like to pick your own alias?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's completely up to you. Saucy secrety' I think Charlotte's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There we go, all right, classy, we've got Charlotte with us.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Take it away.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So, Charlotte, you met your husband at twenty nine years old,
and we're married to him for twenty years, and I
want to get to your secret from My main question
is I struggle to stay with the guy for twenty days.
How do you do it for twenty years?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah? Life has changed nowadays. It's a throwaway society marriage wife.
I think probably to the social media. But yes, it
was a struggle and probably why he strayed eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Tell us.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think I was reading an article in a magazine
one day about a woman who had a reason. So
she mentioned the name of the site and I followed
up on that. I was curious, and that's when things
really changed for me because I wasn't really into mainstream
dating sites because I wasn't really after a relationship at first.
(21:35):
So I discovered this sex site online and that really
changed my life for the better. I think, all.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Right, I'm just going to say it. I'm going to
say it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, Charlotte, you're beating around the bush and I've
got on this piece of paper.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
What it is that you did is true.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yes, that you had an.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Encounter special cuddle with two other people in the room
at the same time two men died.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yes, it was actually much better than what I expected.
It was just amazing. It was one of the nicest
experiences actually, because.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I always wonder like, is it awkward where people put
their hands where they know, you know what?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It just flowed. I think there was one there that
who had actually been experienced in this field before, so yes,
he was the one who was sort of guarding the way.
It just made it really really easy.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So you need a team leader to kind of steer
the ship and then you just go with it. And
not to be true, but I'm going to ask the
question that everyone wants to know it was two men?
Was there any crossing swords?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Not at all. No. One was sort of sitting probably,
you know, watching for a little bit while the action
was happening.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, that's very And then what's it like afterwards? Do
you shake hands? Is there a sleepover? You'll be sure
to know. I've never had a threesome.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I am shocked. I'm very shocked. I think we could
talk about this another time off air.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
By the sounds of things, if you want.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Honestly, yeah, if I can plan it for you, I
can organize it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh wow, So how long ago was this? It has
there been another one since?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, there hasn't been another one that was probably maybe
six months ago. There hasn't as yet, but never say never.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wow, And not to be rude, but can I ask
your age?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I am r.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, so you had your first threesome in your mid
fifties exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I I don't know what's around the corner. I think
once I hit menopause, I became very sexual. I haven't
needed to be fed. Yes, it was like my sex
strike went through the roof, and I think I've been
having fun ever since.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
There's got to be some upside to menopause.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Of course, I've got another.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Friend who said that. She said, because we all think
that women lose their libidos and a lot of the cads.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Okay, every woman is different, but I wasn't expecting this.
I've certainly made up that's the next th.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Reason being organized in the background. Better picked that one up.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You don't want to miss it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hey, Charlotte, thank you so much for being our very
first saucy secrete.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
We appreciate.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Brothels next topic of conversation on the show tonight. It's
not something that I've had anything to do with. It's
not a place that I frequent, but apparently, not only
is it incredibly common, but there are weird and wonderful
ways that men are getting caught in set establishments.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Listen, they do say that men have two options. They
think through their brain or they think through their pants,
and they cannot think with both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Men can't multitask. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, they really can't, and thank god because it makes
for a great story. So this brothel owner, cord Catherine
de Noir, so she's come out and she's spoken to
a journalist and told of the many different ways men
have been caught at her brothel, and she's had screaming
wives turning up demanding not good for business, not great
for business, but great for us. So she's said that,
(25:21):
she said a lot of men get caught by leaving
their phone location on. So you're married, do you have
Find my Friends with your wife?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't. I've never never had it at all, really no, never.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well you need to check that because actually now a
lot of wives are putting air tags in their men's.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Maybe because I'm really boring and she knows that I'm
not going to go anywhere and do anything, so there's
no real need.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, a lot of people do they have Find my Friends'
locations on with their partners, And these men just forget
to turn them off, and then all of a sudden
their wife is like, why is my husband at the
White Rabbit?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This other way that men are finding out is so dumb.
So they're withdrawing large sums of money from the car's
joint account. That seems silly to me, but from the
brothel atm because.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You can see that on your bank statement where it's
been withdrawn from.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, and they're turning up in brothels. She said, there
was one man that directly transferred from his joint bank
account with his partner to a personal account of the
sex worker he was seeing.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What do you think that comes up as on the statement.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
A tricksy bell or candy.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
From your experience, you know, with sex and dating and
all that kind of stuff, is brothel visits?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Is it a common thing?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Super common? Super common? She also put in how men
are actually getting away with being to brothels, and I
found that more interesting than the men that are getting caught.
So she said things like men will come during their
lunch breaks. See, I'm telling you lunch breaks are I think.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean a lot of men are sprinters. I guess
it's not exactly a marathon, so they don't need time, right.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It does not surprise, yeah at all. They're leaving their
phone in the office, they're turning off their shed occasion.
I love that a lot of men are getting money
out at ATMs, really really far from a brothel.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's a lot of admin, isn't it. It's a lot
of admin for the.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Best two minutes of their lives, right, yeah, yeah, so oh,
She said, they also bring cash. They never withdraw money nearby,
They keep no receipts, and they take a shower after
this session. So there's no sense that feels like a
no brainer, right, I mean, that's just good manners.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Wider blokes do this because it feels like it's really
fraught with danger.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it really is. But for a lot of men.
I get a lot of men slide into my DMS
and tell me why. Most of them are usually my
wife doesn't want to have sex anymore. She's lost her libido,
she's not interested. I'm still a man, I still have needs.
But then there are other men who have kinks that
they want to explore, and they don't feel comfortable doing
(27:51):
it with their wives, so they go explore these kinks elsewhere.
That's the most common.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So instead of just having you know, probably an uncomfortable
conversation with their partner, they go, no, wait a minute,
the best way to deal with this is to go
and sleep with someone else out of brothel and go
through all those outrageous steps you outlined before to completely
get away with it and lead a double lot.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, then there's just the men who just
want to feel like a legend. Oh and they're still
getting it at home. They're in perfectly loving marriages, but
they want to feel like a real legend.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Bloods luods, luds, bluds lads.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Let's get into the needy gritty, the stats, the details.
What is it that gets Australians going in the bedroom
because we have got the sex census data in.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Front of us.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yes, So the biggest question was what is Australia's top
turn on? And I call utter bullshit on this one
because last year it was everyone was turned on by threes?
IM sure, okay, I get that, But this year the
biggest turn on was slow build, romantic seduction, snare.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Romance is sexy as well? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I want to know who they asked, because I just
don't believe that the biggest turn on was like, you
look really pretty. Let's have sluic.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
People filling out forms in front of their partners. That's
probably who's written that. Oh no, I'm all about the romance.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You're so right, you're so right. There was another interesting one,
so one in three Aussies say their sexuality has become
more open and fluid over time. Okay, I would believe that.
Another one was, oh this is not surprising missionary and
doggie style are still the most common sexual positions deployed
(29:29):
by the nation. Yeah, that's true, Like sometimes you just
want comfort. Oh, this one upset me. Oral sex is
more common in casual relationships than it is for long
term unions.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Why is that because it's naughty and exciting? So when
you first meet someone, I don't know. Is it because
you're the expert?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Why are you asking me?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Well, I think at the start you're really trying to
impress each other. Yeah, so you're going to that extra
evert Now, I haven't been in a long.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Term you have nothing to write about if that was
the case.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know, I've been in a situationship and we are
very giving in our situationships. So to find out that,
like couples aren't giving each other oral sex anymore just
makes me sad.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Maybe maybe that relates to one of these other stats.
And to be honest, I looked at this and was
somewhat surprised that sixty four percent of people are satisfied
with their sex lives.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Does that feel high?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Group?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No, that feels grim. Why I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
High for some reason?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now, sex tech has become a thriving industry as well.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, I've got what'sapp groups we've named after our favorite
sex toy.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Really, obviously all juju sex toys naturally.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Is what there are, obviously, especially this purple one. Here
is the it listen. I've been using it all week
and it's incredible. It's called the one too, and I
highly recommend it and it comes in a pretty purple color.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Forty three percent of Aussies are using vibrators regularly or occasionally.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think that's a very polite estimate.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Do you think it's higher than that?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, I did a check with all my girlfriends and
I would say it's eighty percent and a lot of
them I didn't use one until lockdown yep, and lockdown
was low.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'm assuming most of the time they're used when it's
a person on their own, but how often are they
being used and brought into the bedroom with a sexual partner?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Not necessarily. I know a lot of guys that get
off on watching their partner use one, But then I
also know a lot of guys who are intimidated by it. Yeah,
my ask Johnna Colum. We get at least one question
a week. That's my wife brought a vibrator into the bedroom.
I'm so horrified, how can I compete? I had one
(31:34):
guy message me once and he was like, my wife
got a really, really big one and now I can't
get it up because I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So dron and they've got batteries that, let's be honest,
most blokes cannot keep up with. If you are looking
to bring sex tech into the bedroom, there obviously is
an obvious place to turn, and that is the Legends
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and we've got one. We've got one here. It is
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to win this, you've given this a crack, You've road
tested it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yes, Now this is designed for the clean and that's
where a lot of women will be brought to August.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This giant thing is designed for don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Be deceived by how big it is. You just want
to place it at see the go.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I'm already getting intimidated by it.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I swear it's really really good. So I used it. Sadly,
I am so tragically single at the moment, so I
just used it on myself. It really did the job
for me this week ten stars.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
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we vibe ones from the legends at juju Kiss dot
com dot I, you jump on there now. We can
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By the way, it to be beautifully clean.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
We'll keep those.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Hey, that's the first show done. We got there. We're
still on air, I know, right, I mean, who knows.
The plug might have been pulled and we're just sitting
in here yapping on thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I loved it. I loved every second. Egress
All right, cheeky one's heads up, Saucy Secrets is about
to start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
This isn't your average radio chat. It has adult themes
and some sexual references. We're diving into real confessions, spicy fantasies,
and some real jaw dropping stories. So if you're easily shocked,
maybe go find a gardening show. But if you're ready
for some fun, a little scandal and absolutely no judgment,
you're in the right safe place. Real people, real confessions.
(00:29):
It's Saucy Secrets. I'm kiss Saucy Secrets. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
If you thought that radio was a little bland, a
little vanilla, a little PC boyo boy oh boy, is
that about to change. Welcome to the first ever episode
of Saucy Secrets with Sex Relationship dating columnists Jenna Hockey.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I haven't slept all week.
This is I don't think people are prepared, but this
is an open, free, non judge mental place, unless we
decide to judge you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I mean, I've looked at the run sheet and I
know what we're doing on the show, and even I'm
not prepared. Got to by the way, before we start
things off, got to say a big thank you to
the legends at Juju, because without them, this show does
not happen.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And just so happens. I'm going to put this on camera.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is on YouTube as well, by the way, so
you can either listen to us on kiss watch it
on YouTube thanks to the legends at Juju. At the
end of the show, we are giving away a we
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I've used this all week. I can personally vouch
or how good it is.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Are you suggesting that I give it a crack before
the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I think it's your right as a co host say
goodbye to boring nights. The we Vibe one brings thunderous
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Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now, well, you've got a massive first show.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of saucy secrets coming up, including one of Okay, so
you're a you're a relationship dating a sex columnist for
many publications all around the world, and that involves you
going on some rather interesting and somewhat sourcy assignments.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I have the best job in the world. Yeah, basically
all the things that I got in trouble for at school,
don't talk about sex. I went to a Catholic.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Didn't pay for it?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now I get paid for it? Did The Chili Pepers
released a song called Catholic School Girls Rule apparently?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it checks out, it checks out?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
One of the many incredible adventures that you've been on
recently an orgasm retreat I did. Yeah, what happens at
one of these retreats? I'm assuming one of the things
that's in the title will get to that inter second.
But how do you become a sex columnist? And who
is Janat Hawking? We're going to do that next. We
(02:42):
thought we'd sort of kick off the show by sort
of introducing you, getting to know you and understanding what
it is and how does one become a dating and
sex commonists? So I guess getting to know you to
know bout you. So what I've done, I've come up
with a list of questions and I'm just going to
fire them at you, one by one so we can understand.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Who is Jenna Hawking? What makes for tick?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And how did she end up in this weird and
wonderful world of sex and dating?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's so fun?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
All right?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Question number one, how did you become a sex colmness?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, So I did study journalism in UNI, and then
I went off and went into TV and I was
a producer on The Bachelor get Away, World's Best Jobs
in the World, and then I was in radio and
I was dating this toxic toxic man, as you will
learn to discover, is my type.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I said to.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Him, I was looking at all these articles go up
on news dot com. I was like, I could write
an article like that, and he was like, you could not.
Oh my god, how embarrassing. You could never get an
article up there. And my little brain went ding ding
ding ding ding. Well, now I have to.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Get an article up there, really supportive guy.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So I was like, yoh yeah, here was the last
and so I was like, okay, what will get picked
up immediately? Like I need this up in the next
week just to prove a point. So I was like,
all right about my boobs. So I was graced with
a great set, Thank you mum, and I decided to
write this like a thousand words on why my boobs
(04:14):
can often get in the way. Okay, went viral, Yeah,
kicked off. They said, well, can we have some more articles?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I got you boobs or other things, like a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Them at the start were heavily based on my boobs.
I went for the low hanging fruit, and then I
started chronicling my dating life because obviously I kicked him
to the curve as soon as I could, and it
just went off from.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Their Have you ever had a walk of shame?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Because everyone's had a walk of shame, right, but a
walk of shame so good it was actually worth telling
people about this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
One went on national TV. Do you remember the Today
Show would do live from the Low GI's.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh yeah, crown plant come straight from the after party
to the Today Show set.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was so fast, It's my favorite moment in TV.
So I had been at the logis and hooked up
with a Home and a Ways star.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Obviously shout to rama.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That would be so hot and it's not a hard no.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Rayma sliding to the Daktok.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But it was like some tragic home and Away guy.
And the next morning I was like, oh god. My
hotel room was the opposite side of the foyer and
all the Today Show was set up in the foyer
and there is a video my mom saw it talk
about timing of me walking in the background of the
Today Show set, holding my high heels, the ball gown
(05:40):
from the night before and Muscara down my face trying
to discreetly get back to my hotel room.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's so grim, but so incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Who is the most famous person that you have had
special cuddles with?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I have slept with semberj just Sig, Sammy B, Sammy B.
And it came about in the craziest way. So I
was at a bar in King's Cross with two girlfriends
and he walked in fresh off his court case from
his ex wife going through their divorce, and he was
with his lawyer, Brian, and he spotted me. And a
(06:14):
week before I wrote an article that said why I'll
never date football players again, and sure, it just happened
to come out at the same time that he was
going through a very high profile divorce where his wife
took him to town saying what a terrible guy he was.
Now he came into this bar I was in in
King's Cross, took one look at me and went you
(06:37):
And I was like, oh God, and he goes you
wrote that article and he really went angry at me.
And my gorgeous little friend Jesse was with me, and
she's irish and fiery, and she took him to town
and was like, you leave her alone. She's allowed to
write whatever she wants. He felt so bad, like this
little five foot Irish girl took Sam, who's like what
(06:58):
six three eight hundred feet to town. He was shocked
and I just stood behind her, going yeah. So then
he felt so bad. So then he got a tray
of shots and brought them to our table and he's like,
I feel really bad. I'm sorry, let's do shots. And
then it just took off from them.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So what's what's the worst date you've been on?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Because I would assume some of the horror stories of
what make the best articles, right.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The worst date was a guy. This was before I
started writing about my dating life. He met him at
a ball will making eyes. Decided we were madly in
love within thirty seconds of chatting. But then he got
really drunk. He was a surfer and decided to show
me his party trick was, which was to take his
front teeth out because the surfboard had smacked him in
(07:45):
the face.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So he wasn't like ninety five years old and wearing
benches not.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yet, okay, like a million extime maybe, but no. This
guy was like a young, hot guy. And then halfway
through the night he just took his teeth out and
was giving me this big gummy grin. I was like, oh,
you're just so. Then my friend and I kind of
tried to exit and sit at a different table. And
then at the end of night he saw us leaving
and he chased us out to the uber, pulled his
(08:09):
pants down and said, you don't want some of this.
I did not want some of this?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Who said chivalry is dead? Now?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was going to ask, what's the one story you've
written that your mum.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just cannot go near. But I'm guessing that's probably most of.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Them, right, all of them. Yeah, my mom says to me,
I'm so proud of you, but I will never read
your articles. And I think that's a fair call. My
brother has me blocked on inside.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm assuming them that neither your brother, your mother, or
any member of your family went anywhere near the article
that involves you going to an orgasm retreat in the
Californian desert.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, but they were so proud.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Good well, mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Brother, listen to something else for a second, because we're
going to talk about that next. Growing up, most of
us go on camps and excursions and things like that.
But you recently went on a very different and type
of camper retreat, an orgasm retreat.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You haven't been on one now, I highly recommend it.
So this came about because I was a columns for
the New York Post and we got wind of a
story about women spending fifteen thousand dollars to go into
the middle of the Californian desert to learn how to orgasm. Okay,
and I just got an email off my editor that
(09:26):
simply said, you're going, and I was like WHOA. A
week later, I was on a flight to La picked
up a higher car, drove out into the middle of
the Californian desert and I was watching the houses slowly
disperse and the you know, doesert really open up? And
all I kept thinking was, well, this is where I
(09:47):
come to die, Like this is a bit sus So
eventually I found this ranch. It was beautiful, and I
arrived in Pamela the sexologist there she was when around
in lingerie and I was like, right, okay, just lean in.
You've come all this way cleaning, and she gathered all
(10:10):
the women around sixteen women. One man caught who's a
sexologist as well, and they basically said, all right, you've
all come here to learn. He had a really weird
way of putting it. They said how to It was
basically how to reach orgasm? Okay, and I was expecting,
really woo woo women like these women are spending fifteen
(10:33):
thousand dollars, so they were kind of Middle America rich housewives.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So let's backtrack just a second, because I want to
know what this place looks like, because I've got an
image in my head and it's something out of the
Fifty Shades of Gray movie, and it's a red room
with a giant felt couch and a wall of every
instrument on planet Earth?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What did it look like?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's pretty spot on. There are different rooms, so there's
one on one rooms and they're set up like ones
a cowboy room with sexy cowboy wear and other ones
just full of like cheetahprint and they kind of like,
I don't know if you've ever been to a brothel.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, okay, no, not my thing.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well I have that, honest simonicas and they each have
different rooms with different themes. That's what this was like,
it is very sexy, but it's also in the middle
of the desert. It's very strange.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I would imagine once you spent a bit of time
with all of these women, you probably go, oh, no, wait,
they're relatively normal people, which probably relaxed everyone because, like
you said, they're not these woo woo crazy types that
are completely different from you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What I found so interesting was a lot of them
were divorced, so they had come because they either hadn't
had an orgasm before, they'd been married for twenty years
and didn't know what good sex was. Others like their
husbands had left them for younger women and they were
feeling a little bit insecure, and so they were like, well,
if we're going back into the dating world, we want
to be good at sex. And then there was some
(11:59):
sader cases of women who had been had sexual trauma
and they were there to learn how to enjoy sex again.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So not so much for some people searching for something.
A lot of it was reclaiming something or taking something
back that had been taken from it.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, as soon as we all figured out, because we
had to go around in a circle and tell our
story of why we were there, and I was like, well,
I want a front page story in the New York Post.
But everyone else when they told their stories, it really
bonded everyone. There was a seventy five year old woman
who'd been married twice and her biggest regret was with
her second husband before he died. She just wasn't interested
(12:33):
in sex. We were all crying because she was like,
I want to reclaim sex again and enjoy it. I
was like, yes, girl, she's getting on the data. She
was incredible. So there was like women. There was a
twenty two year old there and there was a seventy
five year old there.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So what happens at orgasm camp? And was it a success? There?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Are how many people were taking this course with.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Sean women, Pamela, the sexologists and caught the male.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sexologists fifteen thousand dollars to hopefully, you know, reach the
finish line.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, what happens at this kind of retreat?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean the question is what doesn't happen?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Good point? Where did it start? Then?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, it started with a tantric meditation and this is
when I went, oh, they're not mucking around here. So
you're told at brunch get into any clothes that make
you feel comfortable, or if you want to go naked.
And I was like, oh god, I've got a photography here,
I can I get naked. But a lot of the
(13:39):
women so everyone wore like cute lace underwear, cute lace bras,
but within minutes everyone had taken it off and didn't
know what for fifteen thousand dollars, just get naked.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You're going to do it to it properly?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Leaning Yeah, So first of all, we had to get
in groups, so we each had a partner and we
had to go back to back, and then we were
told to put our hands on our volve, and then
we had to rock back and forth and talk to
our volvers and tell them what we want to be
and what we think of our volvers. So I was
like boss, bitch, Queen of the jungle. I was like, yes, girl,
(14:19):
get it. And so everyone's chanting out all this stuff.
But then we got the gigglers, because what.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Did you hear other people saying to their volvers?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh my god, what didn't I hear?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
One girl started crying, She's like, I'm just really thankful
for you. Others were like, you bring children into this world.
But then we had to lie down on mats and
they put blind folds on us. Then you lie on
mats and the helpers and Court and Pamela go around
and at first they'll like.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Drag shells across your body. It's called somatic touch, so
you're finding out what turns you on. Or they'll do
like wooden claws really gently, and then they start upping
it and not. And so at one stage, with permission,
I had caught time my ankles and my wrists together.
It's called shabari rope play. Okay, it's a Japanese thing.
(15:11):
And then he pinned me up like a pressed ham
and then bent me over and growled in my ear.
And I should have hated it. I loved it, like, oh,
now I know we're into shabari play. But what I
didn't expect was while they were doing with the touch
and play, women actually started having orgasms straight away, straight away.
(15:32):
So then I was like, oh God, am I going
to reach one? Like should be trying, But I was
aware of the photographer, your post photographer taking pictures of
me and the women around me. So then that was
the first day, but then it went crazier. Day two
was when we really got into the nitty gritty. So
(15:53):
we were given notepads and we were told to take notes.
I was reading some to you before we started. The
whole point of the retreat is to expose you to
new ways to find an orgasmic state. Peking is building
arousal and then slowing down and then building again, like a.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Real change of pace I'm getting from.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The The reason I wrote those notes is because I
saw it play out in real life. So then Court
and Pamela.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Who are the workers, They're they're they're they're the instructors,
if you will, sex ologists.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yep, uh, he's ninety percent gay. Okay that he said
that ten percent is fun. She's married and her husband.
We're all in a temple. They get naked. He brings
her to orgasm.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
What in front of you?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, we're all they're with our notepads. You just read
my notes. That's the notes they took as he was
bringing her to orgasm and her husband was out the
front the whole time, watering the gardens.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So you said earlier that there were almost breakout rooms
where you could go for one on one sessions. Yeah,
I'm assuming that there were women that could go for
one on one sessions with either of the sexologists, either both,
and that happened.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, that happens. That's for the fifteen thousand dollars. So
for three day retreats like seven hundred dollars, and the
only touching is the somatic touch where they like put
shells over you or whisper in your ear. For the
fifteen thousand dollars, you have one on one sessions, one
a day for seven days, if you choose whether they
will bring you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
To orgasm them all right, I feel like this is
the obvious question, and it's the question I wanted to
ask from the moment I saw this on a run sheet.
Did you climb Mount Overest? Did you reach the finish line?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I did not. I was the only girl at Orgasm
Camp not to reach an orgasm. No award, no gold medal,
and they did drive out of that desert, so disappointed
in myself in a week later.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
If that makes it doesn't count one hour in one
hour ago, I mean time flies when you're having find it.
It's been a wonderful first hour and we're still on
the air, which is quite incredible given what we've already
talked about.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Welcome to Saucy Secrets. This is our.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
First ever episode with dating and sex calmness. Janna hockeing, Hey,
feeling very comfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah yeah, I remember a happy place. That's seck good.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is also an educational show in case, in case
you were wondering, in case you're listening, in case you're watching,
and we're going to give you an education shortly about.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
How not to get caught in a brothel.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Very important.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, you know the dos and don'ts if you are
planning on making that decision in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We will do that in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But one of the things I guess that help you
become the sex and dating corners that you are today was,
you know, getting confessions from Instagram followers. And this is
kind of how this whole journey started, right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh yeah, I was just bored one Monday night and
I was like, I'm going to I've got a decent following.
They're all pretty open if they follow me, we want to.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Know all about here for it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah yeah, And so he just threw a question out
and said, tell me a saucy secret. You can be anonymous.
Told me secrets and I'll share them with the audience.
It really took off. Yeah, and through momentum, and then
every Monday, if I put them out even five minutes late,
people like, where are saucy secrets?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So what we thought we'd do on this show every
week you share some of your saucy secrets as well.
And we are literally starting with a bang tonight. Someone
that was married for a really, really really long time.
The marriage ends, she goes, let's have some fun, and thought,
I'm going to do it with two blocks.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
At sometimes why not.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I've rid in our first saucy secret. Next, I guess
this whole career that you've been able to create and
it's landed you here on the radio. Started with just
a simple Q and A on an Instagram one Monday night,
and look at where it's got to now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was lockdown. I was bored, I was slightly horny.
I wanted to know people's saucy secrets, so I asked
them and they came flowing in and now we've got
a national.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Radio showy, So we thought, let's let's get the DMS
onto the air to find out what's happening in the
bedrooms of those all around Australia and really exciting to say,
we have our what are we going to our first
saucy secret here?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Do we like that?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
She's popping our cherry and I'm very happy about it?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Good. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
What should we call her? Because she wants to be anonymous.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's a really sexy name. I was gonna say, Charlotte's
sexy name.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I keep thinking Candy Candy.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, would you like to pick your own alias?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's completely up to you. Saucy secrety' I think Charlotte's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There we go, all right, classy, we've got Charlotte with us.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Take it away.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So, Charlotte, you met your husband at twenty nine years old,
and we're married to him for twenty years, and I
want to get to your secret from My main question
is I struggle to stay with the guy for twenty days.
How do you do it for twenty years?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah? Life has changed nowadays. It's a throwaway society marriage wife.
I think probably to the social media. But yes, it
was a struggle and probably why he strayed eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Tell us.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think I was reading an article in a magazine
one day about a woman who had a reason. So
she mentioned the name of the site and I followed
up on that. I was curious, and that's when things
really changed for me because I wasn't really into mainstream
dating sites because I wasn't really after a relationship at first.
(21:35):
So I discovered this sex site online and that really
changed my life for the better. I think, all.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Right, I'm just going to say it. I'm going to
say it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, Charlotte, you're beating around the bush and I've
got on this piece of paper.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
What it is that you did is true.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yes, that you had an.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Encounter special cuddle with two other people in the room
at the same time two men died.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yes, it was actually much better than what I expected.
It was just amazing. It was one of the nicest
experiences actually, because.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I always wonder like, is it awkward where people put
their hands where they know, you know what?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It just flowed. I think there was one there that
who had actually been experienced in this field before, so yes,
he was the one who was sort of guarding the way.
It just made it really really easy.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So you need a team leader to kind of steer
the ship and then you just go with it. And
not to be true, but I'm going to ask the
question that everyone wants to know it was two men?
Was there any crossing swords?
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Not at all. No. One was sort of sitting probably,
you know, watching for a little bit while the action
was happening.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, that's very And then what's it like afterwards? Do
you shake hands? Is there a sleepover? You'll be sure
to know. I've never had a threesome.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I am shocked. I'm very shocked. I think we could
talk about this another time off air.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
By the sounds of things, if you want.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Honestly, yeah, if I can plan it for you, I
can organize it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh wow, So how long ago was this? It has
there been another one since?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, there hasn't been another one that was probably maybe
six months ago. There hasn't as yet, but never say never.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wow, And not to be rude, but can I ask
your age?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I am r.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, so you had your first threesome in your mid
fifties exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I I don't know what's around the corner. I think
once I hit menopause, I became very sexual. I haven't
needed to be fed. Yes, it was like my sex
strike went through the roof, and I think I've been
having fun ever since.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
There's got to be some upside to menopause.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Of course, I've got another.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Friend who said that. She said, because we all think
that women lose their libidos and a lot of the cads.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Okay, every woman is different, but I wasn't expecting this.
I've certainly made up that's the next th.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Reason being organized in the background. Better picked that one up.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You don't want to miss it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hey, Charlotte, thank you so much for being our very
first saucy secrete.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
We appreciate.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Brothels next topic of conversation on the show tonight. It's
not something that I've had anything to do with. It's
not a place that I frequent, but apparently, not only
is it incredibly common, but there are weird and wonderful
ways that men are getting caught in set establishments.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Listen, they do say that men have two options. They
think through their brain or they think through their pants,
and they cannot think with both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Men can't multitask. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, they really can't, and thank god because it makes
for a great story. So this brothel owner, cord Catherine
de Noir, so she's come out and she's spoken to
a journalist and told of the many different ways men
have been caught at her brothel, and she's had screaming
wives turning up demanding not good for business, not great
for business, but great for us. So she's said that,
(25:21):
she said a lot of men get caught by leaving
their phone location on. So you're married, do you have
Find my Friends with your wife?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't. I've never never had it at all, really no, never.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well you need to check that because actually now a
lot of wives are putting air tags in their men's.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Maybe because I'm really boring and she knows that I'm
not going to go anywhere and do anything, so there's
no real need.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, a lot of people do they have Find my Friends'
locations on with their partners, And these men just forget
to turn them off, and then all of a sudden
their wife is like, why is my husband at the
White Rabbit?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This other way that men are finding out is so dumb.
So they're withdrawing large sums of money from the car's
joint account. That seems silly to me, but from the
brothel atm because.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You can see that on your bank statement where it's
been withdrawn from.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, and they're turning up in brothels. She said, there
was one man that directly transferred from his joint bank
account with his partner to a personal account of the
sex worker he was seeing.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What do you think that comes up as on the statement.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
A tricksy bell or candy.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
From your experience, you know, with sex and dating and
all that kind of stuff, is brothel visits?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Is it a common thing?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Super common? Super common? She also put in how men
are actually getting away with being to brothels, and I
found that more interesting than the men that are getting caught.
So she said things like men will come during their
lunch breaks. See, I'm telling you lunch breaks are I think.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean a lot of men are sprinters. I guess
it's not exactly a marathon, so they don't need time, right.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It does not surprise, yeah at all. They're leaving their
phone in the office, they're turning off their shed occasion.
I love that a lot of men are getting money
out at ATMs, really really far from a brothel.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's a lot of admin, isn't it. It's a lot
of admin for the.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Best two minutes of their lives, right, yeah, yeah, so oh,
She said, they also bring cash. They never withdraw money nearby,
They keep no receipts, and they take a shower after
this session. So there's no sense that feels like a
no brainer, right, I mean, that's just good manners.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Wider blokes do this because it feels like it's really
fraught with danger.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it really is. But for a lot of men.
I get a lot of men slide into my DMS
and tell me why. Most of them are usually my
wife doesn't want to have sex anymore. She's lost her libido,
she's not interested. I'm still a man, I still have needs.
But then there are other men who have kinks that
they want to explore, and they don't feel comfortable doing
(27:51):
it with their wives, so they go explore these kinks elsewhere.
That's the most common.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So instead of just having you know, probably an uncomfortable
conversation with their partner, they go, no, wait a minute,
the best way to deal with this is to go
and sleep with someone else out of brothel and go
through all those outrageous steps you outlined before to completely
get away with it and lead a double lot.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, then there's just the men who just
want to feel like a legend. Oh and they're still
getting it at home. They're in perfectly loving marriages, but
they want to feel like a real legend.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Bloods luods, luds, bluds lads.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Let's get into the needy gritty, the stats, the details.
What is it that gets Australians going in the bedroom
because we have got the sex census data in.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Front of us.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yes, So the biggest question was what is Australia's top
turn on? And I call utter bullshit on this one
because last year it was everyone was turned on by threes?
IM sure, okay, I get that, But this year the
biggest turn on was slow build, romantic seduction, snare.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Romance is sexy as well? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I want to know who they asked, because I just
don't believe that the biggest turn on was like, you
look really pretty. Let's have sluic.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
People filling out forms in front of their partners. That's
probably who's written that. Oh no, I'm all about the romance.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You're so right, you're so right. There was another interesting one,
so one in three Aussies say their sexuality has become
more open and fluid over time. Okay, I would believe that.
Another one was, oh this is not surprising missionary and
doggie style are still the most common sexual positions deployed
(29:29):
by the nation. Yeah, that's true, Like sometimes you just
want comfort. Oh, this one upset me. Oral sex is
more common in casual relationships than it is for long
term unions.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Why is that because it's naughty and exciting? So when
you first meet someone, I don't know. Is it because
you're the expert?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Why are you asking me?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Well, I think at the start you're really trying to
impress each other. Yeah, so you're going to that extra
evert Now, I haven't been in a long.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Term you have nothing to write about if that was
the case.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know, I've been in a situationship and we are
very giving in our situationships. So to find out that,
like couples aren't giving each other oral sex anymore just
makes me sad.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Maybe maybe that relates to one of these other stats.
And to be honest, I looked at this and was
somewhat surprised that sixty four percent of people are satisfied
with their sex lives.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Does that feel high?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Group?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No, that feels grim. Why I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
High for some reason?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now, sex tech has become a thriving industry as well.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, I've got what'sapp groups we've named after our favorite
sex toy.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Really, obviously all juju sex toys naturally.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Is what there are, obviously, especially this purple one. Here
is the it listen. I've been using it all week
and it's incredible. It's called the one too, and I
highly recommend it and it comes in a pretty purple color.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Forty three percent of Aussies are using vibrators regularly or occasionally.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think that's a very polite estimate.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Do you think it's higher than that?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, I did a check with all my girlfriends and
I would say it's eighty percent and a lot of
them I didn't use one until lockdown yep, and lockdown
was low.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'm assuming most of the time they're used when it's
a person on their own, but how often are they
being used and brought into the bedroom with a sexual partner?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Not necessarily. I know a lot of guys that get
off on watching their partner use one, But then I
also know a lot of guys who are intimidated by it. Yeah,
my ask Johnna Colum. We get at least one question
a week. That's my wife brought a vibrator into the bedroom.
I'm so horrified, how can I compete? I had one
(31:34):
guy message me once and he was like, my wife
got a really, really big one and now I can't
get it up because I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So dron and they've got batteries that, let's be honest,
most blokes cannot keep up with. If you are looking
to bring sex tech into the bedroom, there obviously is
an obvious place to turn, and that is the Legends
at Juju joyou dot com dot Au will be mentioning
all show that we do have one to give away,
and we've got one. We've got one here. It is
the we Vibe wand two. Before we tell people how
(32:03):
to win this, you've given this a crack, You've road
tested it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yes, Now this is designed for the clean and that's
where a lot of women will be brought to August.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This giant thing is designed for don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Be deceived by how big it is. You just want
to place it at see the go.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I'm already getting intimidated by it.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I swear it's really really good. So I used it. Sadly,
I am so tragically single at the moment, so I
just used it on myself. It really did the job
for me this week ten stars.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So if you want to pick up one of these
we vibe ones from the legends at juju Kiss dot
com dot I, you jump on there now. We can
send it your way, not the ones that we've been handling.
By the way, it to be beautifully clean.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
We'll keep those.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Hey, that's the first show done. We got there. We're
still on air, I know, right, I mean, who knows.
The plug might have been pulled and we're just sitting
in here yapping on thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I loved it. I loved every second. Egress
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