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August 4, 2025 • 56 mins
  • A fun mum top
  • Cowboy hats at concerts
  • Nath's pre-existing condition
  • Water cremation
  • Text from mum

@thebuckuppodcast

@katelangbroek

@nathvalvo 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I just don't know how to be normal normal.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Imagine if you will, that you are in a place
of great beauty.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Some teenage boys walk past you, They yell out, they
bitch tits. The world you see is a place of
paradox of beauty and cruelty. It will cut you off
at the knees then gift you a pair of easies.
And that, my.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Friends, is why you always always need.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
A buck up. About that about on the bottom, I'm
not no. I was trying to read what your jumper says,

(01:03):
but it just came across it. I was just like
staring at your norgs, daring, well, why wouldn't you can?
I look? Do I have your permission? This top? It's
a little bit. It's a little bit Asian girl, isn't it.
It's you know what it says to me. I don't
know if this is an offensive Asian? It's fun? Mum?
Is it fun?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is that a bad thing? It's fun? Mom? Like if
you said to me that you're if you were like
on the tram on your way to pink. Oh right,
it's oh, it's going out your frills. Do you think
it would be cream? It does? It is cream? Yes,
it's not white. No anyway, just why do fun mums? No,
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Thought I wouldn't wear that spink. I'd probably wear something pink.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You'd bear pink to pink. Don't people do that? I
think they do, you know how like they all wear
a cowboy hat and.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Sequence to Tyler Swift and they all wear Actually I
do remember a cowboy cat in the city, one.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Of the Taylor Swift Knights when she did the night
she did the MCG. I've never seen anything like it.
There was just amazing. Everyone was reflecting of everyone. It
was just like lights going everywhere from all the Daimontes
and all the sweaters. I love it and all they That.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Reminds me of when I went to Harry's styles. Also
cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
They're all cowboy hatyone's doing cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Cowboy hats and Harry stars was like was it feather
boas or It was stunning. It was so fun to
see what's like being in a big.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Club pop girlies, the pop stars, they just love cowboy
They think it's a real thing. It's like the epitome
of cool pop is to do a cowboy phase. And
as the big bands, as the raging gay fans. We
just have to let them get over it, and they
do their Cowboy album. We pretend we like it, and
then we all move on. Everybody looks good in a

(02:56):
cowboy hat.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ah good slash slightly ridiculous but perfect, like it's flattering,
Whereas I couldn't if someone was into a trucker cap.
That's why I couldn't get into sort of California rock
from the nineties. Yes, I don't look good in a cap,
in a baseball cap.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Why not? It's not me, it's about but a cowboy hat.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And also that ethough, the you know, aesthetic of the
cowboy hat is very attractive.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know, our logo literally has a cowboy hat on it.
Oh my god, I've just realized the buck up logo
is a fun mum going to pink. Oh, she's got
a cowboy hat on those colors. No, not those Harry styles.
She's going to Beyonce's. Yeah, she's going to cowboy carters.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Cowboy carter because also another look that is just a perennial.
It doesn't matter what happens in fashion, it's always an.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Indie sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Every woman at some point has worn a minis skirt
with cowboy boots.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh yes, those real heavy, thick boots that go up
to like remember at one point, Sash, Remember when Dicko
boots were in, which was a Danish ball. Yes, these
boots you would.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Remember this, Valvo, but maybe you didn't know that they
were like a cowboy boot but not with a real
pointy Western toe. They were really beautiful, but they were
so heavy that literally when I wore my Dickos they
dislocated my every step and getting them on and off,

(04:36):
getting on and off, Slash and at one point we're
both wearing them to work.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh yeah, do you remember. I remember when I was
a teenager, it was a real like funny ballsy thing
to say comfy boots. Oh yeah, CFN back in the
day when you're like, oh yeah, are you going to
wear your cfs? Yeah? Yeah, well are you playing your

(05:00):
deger to our boots? A gay but not just a
boosh actually, speaking of any issue could be a six.
Speaking of gay cowboy phases and pop stars and gay people.
In the late nineties, when I was still in the
closet Buckheads, I made Giuseppe Velvo, my father, drive me
down to the Palais Theater there in Melbourne to watch

(05:20):
Kylie for the first time do her Cowboy, her intimate
and live show, which was all cowboy themed. She had
had on about this.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
By the way, do our listeners know how many times
you've seen.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Carl and I? You never told them? We don't need to.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I told a girlfriend of mine.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Is it thirty one? Is about thirty? I think thirty something?
Thirty time? Yeah? All right, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So you know about shows that most people weren't even
aware it happened.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Absolutely, even forgot the man. But she's a big tourer.
Is that a word? Oh? Yes? So since like ninety
eight she has she has toured every single album, and
many of those she does many nights. Can we just
back up? Okay?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So Giuseppe Valvo pet me, what didn't I at no point?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well come on? Did he driving his son? Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And my cousin I want to go alone your girl cousin, Yes,
to see Kylie Minogue?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And is he at no point think my son he
doesn't have an acces like that. But well I'm sure
he did. But you know, I feel the parents that
think one of their kids is you're never asking it's inappropriate.

(06:42):
Maybe some other families it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Do you think when you came out to them? No
one surprised, Kate, No, no one was surprised.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But was Giuseppe surprised? No one anyone that had met
me was not surprised. What people don't realize most of
the time about gay people is when you tell people
that's not the beginning, that's the end of it all.
I remember finally told me, oh wonder, It's like, finally
it's all over.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And also because it's so fatiguing, I mean, the focus
is always.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
What you were going to say that.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I'm happy coming out of the closet. But it's
also fatiguing for everyone around you, because we're also trying
to maintain the charade for you and on behalf of
you that you're straight. I remember when Nick, a beautiful
friend of ours, so you know.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Nick and Kaine's house in the UK a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Beautiful, when he one day was driving me home. We
were driving home from work together and he was dropping
me off and he said, before you got out, before
we get out.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
We'd worked together for two years.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
The main question that everyone had always asked us about
him is is he gay? Is he gay? No, he's
not gay. He's got a girlfriend apparently. No, he's not gay.
I'm not gay. I'm not gad a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, we met her madly. Well, there you go. It's
the town. That's the tower. Anyway, if you've got suspicions
about your son, when you meet his girlfriend, get a
real good look at her hand.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
But obviously not manly enough, so not that manly anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
When he dropped me off at home.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
He said, before you get out, I've got to tell
you something, and I said, it better.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Not be that you're gay, okay, because we had spent
so long anyway. Then we laughed and laughed and he said,
yes it is.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'm like, finally, But because it's exhausting for everybody.
Is maintaining a lie is I think one of the
most exhausting things you can do in life. I understand
why people do it. People do it not just about sexuality,
oh many things.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
And now looking at hindsight, guys, come on hindsight, what
a relief, Yes, but looking back you don't think it
at the time. But looking back now, Arnie's uncles, cousins, relatives,
no one ever asked me about girlfriends, this, that, marriage, this,
not nothing, never getting grilled?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Did you ever ask them? Did you ever ask za?
What conversation?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I was also confused by the way for a very
long time, and I did double and I had this.
I doubled around in your stand up when you go
that the girl over there, and I pretend that I
was love it like I from a musical. Oh it's
a different bit. I love it. No, don't do it.
I just love it. But how did we get to that? Oh? No,

(09:42):
we never know. How did we get cowboy hats? Cowboy hats?
Pop stars, pop stars, country albums, country album partly did
the Golden Album a few years ago, but then we
all just move on and then they get good again
and go back to pop.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And also because when you love someone it's like loving anyone,
it's not always It's.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like a good friend of mine that saw my comedy
firstial show a few years ago, and I said, thanks
for coming. She goes, yeah, blah blah blah, and then
she went last year show was still my favorite. What
a lovely way to say they didn't like my show.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, but that's just how likely it was.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like country show, It's like the buck up.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You might have some favorite episodes, but nonetheless you have
joined us.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
For a money I never know when you're gonna do it.
Oh my god, I guess who else is it? Could
it be? Oh my goodness, do my eyes deceive me?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is it the burning bush that God sent for Moses
to renew his faith?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Because surely it is some divine creation.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It is such a French Hello, greatest producer in the land.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Two reasons why I need to buck up this week, folks.
I did I finish the money back guarantee?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh go on, I just said there is one go
But maybe we don't need to explain to me. But
what it is, they'll just get to the end, beastified.
What was the money back? They can write to us
Welcome new listeners.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Two things that have really thrown me in the last
time since i've seen you last One.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
By the way, your face is looking more normal.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Not that it was abnormal, no one else would have noticed,
but because I know you so well and.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I look at you so deeply.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's like looking in Barsky's face when he's had a haircut.
Because normally, of course he's my dog. He can't see
his eyes and suddenly when he can see the eyes,
they're really confront him.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's so confronting. And if you have a dog like ours,
when their eyes I covered most of the time when
I do do what you when I do the trim,
I realized how much, how how much he looks at you.
When I'm next to her, I always see you like
looking over, You're always doing that.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, but then when you look at them, they look away.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
They're real shifty.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
There's something Sash, Sash, she's disgusted by dog talk.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, well, let's move on two things. First, never mind
getting an email from your manager saying, how are you?
An asked audition for something? Hey? Why not? It happened
sometimes slow did the acting course? Oh I love it.
I open up the audition and I scroll down to
the character. What is it fifty? The character's fifty? Oh,

(12:28):
hang on, I want to say it one more time.
That's in fifty.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh No, that's just crazy, that's actually crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You have got your closer to twenty fifty.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
But you could play You could play twenty one. If
my son was in here next to you, you honestly
could play brothers.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, that's because I've had botox but I laughed. I
laughed so hard and then I had to email back
and said this guy. Is it this guy? Then she's like, yeah,
I bet you. I get what you're saying. Is it Flett?
She said, I've written back. We talking that the ages
flexible or are we talking her words? We're prosthetics. Prosthetics,

(13:16):
my goodness. So the thing that like, because I say
no to auditions sometimes when I know, which is very
lovely of the casting agents trying to be inclusive, which
is lovely, And sometimes I get an audition and I
look at it and go, well, that's absolutely not something
i'd be able to do, and I don't know why

(13:36):
you're asking me to do that. Make two best men
at the wedding for the sports bed ad. Oh yeah,
I'm not going to be a gun get into it, Craig, Like,
come on, that was pretty good. Ars, that was really good.
I would totally hire you with some prosthetics. There's just
been a few times where I have done the audition
and then eventually you see the ad or you see

(13:58):
and you a million miles away. I'm never going to
get that. Cody. Yeah, there's some guy there and he's
got the beard and he's drinking that. Hang on, tell
me about the fifty year old. Well, I never I
just wrote back, well, what was that? I haven't written
back to that?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And what was it for a movie?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Was to attach to some movie so they can get
funding and dead sending the audition line just one of
them in my day, and like, you hang on, here
you are you say, I'm it's just crazy because you

(14:35):
don't have you don't have fitty energy. Thanks mate. And
the second thing that I was like, oh, we need
to buck up, folks, you know, let's let's skip past
the boring bits. So I have to go get I
have to go get some tests done, just to see
if I carry the thing that many men in my
family carry. We all have that in our family. What
is that a death sentence? It's just it's a little

(14:57):
hard thing. Has it got a name? Yeah, but I
can't remember the name. Never would get tested for anything
like that. I kind of want to. I want to
not tested. Did you get the Bracker test? YEP? I
had that. I was a negative.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But all her so bracker is that breast cancer gene
that that Angelina Jolie had when she removed all her
womanly bits and so the boobs the ovaries her whole
lot because she was a carrier of the gene that
killed her mum.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, and please excuse me, she's got all through a
family here. When they say you've got the gene, what
does like your carrier percentage? Talking like you're definitely going
to get it? It nearly is, isn't it. The Bracker, Yeah,
it is. It's pretty much not a if. It's just
a win. Yeah yeah, oh wow, the Bracker is just
like full all right, so you got the test. But

(15:45):
she got the test, and how brilliant.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh my goodness, because she's been saying chewing and throwing
about it.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Should I shouldn't I it's not like people who get
those early listen to the buck up. It's people like
to go get an early onset dementia. Why the fact
you get that you forget by the way, Yeah, by
the time it's upon you, it's not your problem, it's
someone else's. You know what, I'm going to have even
these that terrible I might Yeah, well I have to
fact check this. I think my brother got that and

(16:14):
he got told him and I that you'll think, so
whatever you're not, I've got to look let me look
into that and I'll come back what's his name to
have it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
There was some word about him's worth doing it, but
then I never heard. I think it was behind a paywall,
and I didn't care enough to not paying for that,
you know, but still look at me.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't know. To this day, I do say to
Cody sometimes, hey, science man, tell me these things? Are
these things preventable? And he always says, as most of
the most of them are scoffing into pizza and ice
cream and being gross pigs. It always reminds me that
all his fitness culture and all the stuff, and of
course take care of yourself. It will always, most of
the time come down to genetics. It is have your

(17:01):
ice cream, have the pizza, your fat eggs. It's janetics speaking.
I would finish my while I was bringing it up.
Why were you bringing it out?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Hang on, you've just reminded me of the mushroom lady.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We'll talk about her in a sac too. So I
had to go to the GPGP makes the form to
go to the thing to get the test, blah blah blah.
Who else was going? Just me? Okay? And I eye
off the little medical form there that she's got for
me to give to the people.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So the GP's given you this is on the things
be tested for.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But then also on there it has pre existing conditions.
Oh three things? Did you know about them? Well, let's
have a chat. Pre existing conditions for this other doctor
that somehow needs to know about when they're only doing
one test on me. Yeah, okay, anxiety, ADHD, balding? What on?

(18:03):
No bald No, I'm not having it. No, neked you,
I don't know. And then I that I remember the
cap off? No, no, mate, I take those tablets that
stops men from going Well, you're totally not balding because
I take the tablets. Would you think it'd be bald
if you didn't take it? I don't know. But according

(18:24):
to my doctor, it's a pre existing Is it he
or is she doctor?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
She?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Have you ever talked to her about? Well, she's the
one that gave me the hair tablets. Yea. I walked
in and said, I said, one of those tablets that
stopped men from losing hair. That was a couple of
years ago, and she gave them to me. I didn't
know that. Now it's on this lake forever dying on
my record are crossing out, just crossing crossing out. That's

(18:51):
just terrible, very funny though the point of taking the tablets.
I don't know if she's just going to out you
that I don't like. It's a supposed to be a secret.
What about if I like, apply for like travel insurance
one day. Sorry, you, if.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Something happens on a flight, like the Air India flight
that you love to talk about, you get a terrible fright.
It brings on alopecia, Then you're not covered for where
all your hair falls out. You go to the insurer
and you're like, I need a payday for this, and
they go, we have this piece of paper.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
No, she's really fitted you up there. I like it existing.
Could a bike up to anyone listening has a pre
existing condition?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And what a way to find out? Mind you, in
the scheme of things, you've got off lightly.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I mean, people do have worse things happening. Apparently apparently
they do.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
One of them is the mushroom lady who we have
not been allowed to like the whole country and every
the whole country was so good in not talking about
her or the case, like online or anything.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
We took very inside baseball for one minute, because a
little bit saying because this is exactly what I want
to because it could be an appeal. This is why
we praise the ground that sash producers slash walks on
because there's been many times we've gone to do something
and how's this buckheads. The broadcasting law is it has

(20:33):
to be something that has specifically been said in the courtroom.
Then we can repeat it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Sorry, not only in the courtroom, but in front of
the jurors. So there's also another complication, which is that
stuff is said in the courtroom, but it's inadmissible to
the jurors. Even so there's a whole lot of stuff
that subsequently come out.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And then so if someone was to if there's if
there's an appeal or a retrial, and they go back
in and then somehow one of the teams listens to
the buck up one day and I've said, well, I
think yes, exactly, they can sink the whole case. Yeah. Correct.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
And not only that, if she got off on appeal,
then she could get together with her lawyers and go, okay,
give me a list of all the people who said
stuff about me, and guess he'd been on the top
of that list Balding Natee.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
So now you know the miracle that was the who
said it game Mushroom Lady or Kate Lainbrook that we
did in our live apt bonus atpe. Sash had to
triple check everything that was actually said in that game.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Which really didn't matter because my two children, two of
my four children, seem to believe that every single utterance,
no matter how absolutely unhinged, had come from me.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
My favorite one was who got diarrhea after eating an
entire orange cake? And they're both like, mum, what it's.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
So listened to Sash when she gets a cackle on,
I mean, so anyway, be careful, Kate. Well, no, this
is just about her. It's the it's it's the history
of her. It's probably no surprise, you know, given you
know what she's been found guilty of, that she's not
your average person, and that she's had troubled relationships apparently

(22:24):
with people in the past. But this has continued even
to her imprisonment. So they got me at an article
the five words that prisoners are tormenting. Yeah, mushroom Lady
with well, she's getting bullied with in prison. In prison,
they don't even like her. And she's having to spend
a lot of time on her own right, which is

(22:45):
very rough, but probably just as well. Maybe right anyway,
I'm like these five words, what five words is?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Five words? Initially were reducing her to tears. I'm like,
what could they be? What could they be?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And you realize it's just one of those articles where
they've just made it up. No, well, they just they
were desperate like us. They were just desperate for some
new angle on the mushroom lady.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
So we all click.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So they said they find her odd and difficult, and
it's left or open. This is this guy, this expert
from the prison left her open to a fair bit
of hostility. You're like, oh, hostility in prison, Oh my goodness,
that's next.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Left. They still do that thing, Kate, were were they
on your face? Or they make a sheeve? Or they
can't get you at poor boiling water over your tip,
oil over you?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know what they're getting. You know what they're doing
to the mushroom lady. She's a constant target for heckling
and shouts of sheit. This is what the guy said, like,
have you got any mushrooms.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Burn?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh my goodness. It was pretty regular when she first
was in the former guards said that actually makes it
sound like prison is a cartoon for a bunch of criminals.
Creative so far even very people brought outside the box.
I thought that they were like, do you know what

(24:16):
I'd say?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
They seem that the most innocent prisoners in the world,
they should all be released.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Thought.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
The worst thing they can think of to say to
her is have you got any mushrooms?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
That's if someone said to me, where could you go
to get some great nicknames that really cut into someone.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Prisoners, prisoners, I agree, prisoners or a sports club.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Sports clubs are very true. Football teams groups, groups of
gay men. Yes, they're very witty, will cut you down
if you want. Did have you ever had a nickname? No,
besides bald ball or actually, to my face, Kate, I
don't know my nickname when I'm not around. I know

(25:01):
that's true. Who does? Well?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Sometimes they let one slip out, like have you got
any mushrooms? They just say, oh, sorry, Aaron. We normally
say that behind your back, I want.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
More information here? Does she have her own? Little protected
says she does. They do this to high.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Profile in the general population and as a result of
which she spends most of the time on her own,
which people always say that's very hard to deal with.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's very hard to throw sympathy at someone and who
has our But some fellow members of society have decided
to be guilty. I think, I think. I think the
thing is, if you.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
In a prison population, which by virtue is it's very definition,
is made up of people who have behaved in a
way that is socially unacceptable, societally unacceptable, if even those
people don't like you, you probably need to rethink yourself.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
What I would think.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
But you know what that did remind me of when
I was at school and my girlfriend Joel, who was
a Jehovah's witness, Right, So I was a Jehah's witness
at school and my other two girlfriends were the only
other two Jehovah's witnesses, and one of them didn't like
me very much. Joel was disputed territory of this anyway,

(26:33):
Joel went to secretarial college or secretary school or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
And she learned, you know, typing in blood.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
So she could get a job exactly. It was probably
the dying days of those of that kind of thing,
But it was opposite the prison in Brisbane, and at lunchtime,
the girls would sit outside the prison which opposite they
could see the big wall, the big brick walls and

(27:03):
the barbed wire and the tiny windows or whatever. They'd
sit there and pull their skirts up and rub baby,
and sometimes they'd hear things being.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yelled out to them. Got any mushrooms?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean get rid of all prisons, because there's
another one on the other side of town down there
in Coburg that's no longer a prison and now it's
a fantastic cinema pantry.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah. People love it, dying to get in there. The
seeds recline, it's a dream. Or Hello to any anyone
that's listening to the Do you think people listen to
us in prison? They're allowed to listen to podcasts.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Oh my, imagine if she was listening to But.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
How do they listen to the podcast in a prison.
They've all got phones, have a phone?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, they've all been smuggled and they've got everything in prison.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, okay, I'm just saying someone's smuggled the phone in
not sitting there in their cell down ding the buck up, right,
not they need the money back guarantee and they need
to know what is it? Or bloody kill them when
I'm only joking.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
They need the money back guarantee that they're going to
feel better at the end of the buck up than
they do at the start of it, much like their
custodial scenen.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
O Kate, I've deep dived. Oh I love it deep.
I don't know where this came from. I don't know
why my algorithm, But then I get answers because phones
are listening. You can listen. Yeah. Yeah. A few weeks
ago we kind of kicked off about cremation and death
or something. I have a memory of us talking about

(28:42):
like do you want to be do you want to
be creamd cremated or buried? We had a chat. I'd say,
I think songs funeral songs as well.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Something did I say? Tend to feel saddler?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Maybe, but you have told me that before.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's an unexpectedly sad song that I heard one morning
when I had a car that only had AM radio.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Give me the voice. Now we're going to play some
sad song. What's a song called again? Tend to feel sad?
It's like coming into number one time is a traveler?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Tend to feel saddler. Look ahead, jackaroo, here comes a
kangaroo ro killed.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I don't know why it was so sad. It's an
incredibly melancholy song. It must be the key of d
It's just something. Every time I hear that song, I'm like, Oh,
it gets you in the guts. Yeah. Anyway, what cremation
or bear have you heard? Or what did you say?
I don't know if I've decided, because I don't know
how I feel.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Do you know when my dad died rib we couldn't
remember what he'd said.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
He wanted to happen to his body, write it down.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
No, no, but we talked to at it my darling,
Dad and Mum. Even Mum couldn't remember either, and I
we were just like, how weird, What a weird thing.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
To not remember. It's a pretty big a surprise that
he died. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's even more
odd that there was no memory. What did you go with?
If you don't mind me buried?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And because Mum wanted to be able to visit him, right,
but I think that he was a cromation person. Whereas
Mum wants to be buried, and of course Mum wants to.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Be buried on top in the same one.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh, probably on top you know, as he's be buried
as you lived that.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
He's that's going to get that written on that anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
But yeah, very strange sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
So I don't know that there's another option apparently not
everywhere yet to be going to the moon. No, turned
into a diamond. Aqua cremation have a listen.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Water cremation is just the process of breaking down a
body back to return to the Earth, very similar to
whether it would break down and the earth itself. It's
using a pair of water instead of fire. So we're
a totally flameless process and we're really just speeding up
what would happen years time, four or five hours.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh, I know that's the Chinese government pummeling people with
water cannons.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
But that's exactly what that is. So make that sound
so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Of course, my eyebrow goes up. This is before botos,
and only one one of them went up. It hasn't
come back to perpetually surprised that one. So I was like,
hang on, deep dive begins. It's one o'clock in the morning.
I'm lying in bed here. I can't cause why wouldn't you.
So apparently Desmond Tutu did this. What did Bishop Desmon too?

(31:44):
Apparently got aqua cremated? That sounds African unless it's the
lying to me. The internet is lying to me. You
can't get this done in Australia yet. But apparently there's
some I found some websites saying soon, like it's coming soon.
He got it done, apparently, mention of it. She's nodding, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(32:05):
the Guardian, The Guardian. What it says. Apparently you go
into the thing. Longo did he die ten years? Twenty years?
Like in the yeah ages ago? Okay, so it's not
a new thing. It's not new. They invented this. Are
you ready to dispose of all the cattle during the
mad cow epidemic? Oh so they had to get rid

(32:26):
of all the the bovine spongy forming sex. It's confused.
So you go in and there's no fire. It's liquid
that like goes all over your body and then something
happens to you.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
They must be doing it with such force. It's like
it's like your dad Giuseppe hosing an oil mark off
the driveway.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's just old Italio. They just dropped you off on
a driveway in Brunswick. I put it your.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Dads of grease stains on you on the pile of bodies.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Apparently this is what This is why they think it's
going to explore Shohn because apparently old school cremation is
very bad for the environment and leaves a very bad
carbon footprint with all the hoopa that comes out of there,
the fumes. It's apparently very bad for the world to
be cremated. Really, and I did not guess how many
percentage of Ozzy's are cremated Kate sixty seven, seventy. What

(33:31):
a could get? I feel like I was on the
hundred that was there. You're so close, very that's amazing.
So it's very modern to get cremated. Everyone's getting cremated.
But now they're going to say it's bad for the environment,
makes us feel guilty about it. They'd say that about
it about everything. So now I'm going to go and
like get what I drown.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I would like to see footage of what they actually do.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I don't think they can put a camera in there.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
No, they must be the force of and heated fifty
degrees celsius, so the water is heated boiling more than
boiling fifty degrees two, it's water, that's steam.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's not water. Water boils at one hundred. And after
that it becomes welcome to my deep dive. Welcome to
my deep dive.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Do this you are sign Are you home alone while
you're doing me this one?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I was yes. Also, they think in the future, are
you ready? They think in the future they're just going
to freeze everyone, like snap, freeze everyone with liquid nitrogen
and then and then chip us away, so we just
get like chipped like ice and then put into the garden.
Whose garden?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, well that's fine, that that's compos I'd rather than.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Signing up for that. You're not on board. And when
she said the temperature, for some reason, the no, I know, cremation,
I know, apparently quite hot. But the thought of being
steamed schoolders. It's like, that's like what happens in prison.
Got me marsh turned to you on my deathbed. Let's

(35:11):
say my final request, you.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Know what imagine because we're here for a long time,
so long, and particularly because I'm buckwhits, our buckheads, our
buccaneers are buckstacles. They're spreading the word they're telling their friends.
So we're growing as an army.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Showing sharing the pod around.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Whichever one of us should falter first? Should we have
oh my goodness alive farewell in front.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Of the water cannons? Would do you want the water cannon?
Or just any buckhead? You and I also, so the
three of us in here, whoever dies first has to
get water cremated.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, just have their whatever they decide to do, a
burial would probably be hard to do. They probably wouldn't
let us have it in the burial ground.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
The recording equipment, yeah, just let us and five hundred live.
Oh you on the buke has to come to do
a live show. Oh you would love it. The tears,
Oh you would love it.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Let's do it well, reap off your two pay just
before your final see.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
My two pay the on the on the coffin as
it goes down. Just your time is a traveler? That song? No,
I don't know either, now that I think of it.
What would you have? There's too many. I can't just
I've got so many. I just say what okay? From
your var collection out of is a lot. One of

(36:53):
them would be I'm going home from the Rocky horror musical.
Go listen to that, sing mebe. No, you don't like
that musical.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
No, but there's songs in there that I may like.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I'm going You're right, that's one of the I know
there's a weird song that I like.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, I can't even be bother it's too obscure, Sash.
What's your funeral song we've run out of?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It'll be the buck up theme?

Speaker 5 (37:23):
No to be you know it would be but badd
b b b badd b b but batter bah dave dobbin.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Of course, how did you not recognize it was joining keys? It? Yep,
hang on sing it on key? But it wasn't. It's
harder than you think, Sash. You do it. She can't.

(37:57):
I can't sing.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Once when we were working together, I checked your into
singing by pretending that we were singing together.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
But my microphone.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That was so mean, and I'm a terrible singer.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
It wasn't off key. Put it to the people anyway.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
That was a funny joke that I got no credit for.
I had to tell you something else. We're being gas lid.
You know how you mentioned how bizarre I love it
that when we're in flow.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
In sync. I was a back troop boy boy over endzync.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh, yes, I think everyone was neilli weren't they?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Few people weren't Is it either all? Couldn't be both?
You couldn't be home and away and neighbors. What else
can we can and can't do? A game?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
You mentioned Bishop Desmond to too, because you know the
Mandela effect.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Oh, yes, that was named after Nelson Mandela. Why is
it named after him? Was it must the barber streis
in effect. I didn't know when you explained that to
A three weeks ago, and that was great. The Mandela
effect when.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You remember something incorrectly.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
A large group of people share the same false met
no false me. I thought the Mandela effect was that
you look at Kalua and you go, Kalua had this
label sometimes and then Klure changed the label. But then
you say no, your label used to be different, and
they say, no, it wasn't. That's the Mandela effect. Well

(39:38):
that is it? Well exactly what she said, but just
got the top of it. She didn't. She left out
the bit where sometimes you're right that it has changed
or it was wrong. Isn't that the Mandela effect? No,
that's just truth.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Because the Mandela effect is when a whole lot of
people share a belief that they have a memory, wrong memory, yeah,
or they told sometimes you're right, it's.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So a classic example is you know that Fruit of
the Loom that that American T shirt company. I don't,
but okay, this is the most classic one, and it's
really strange.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I mean, I don't have a dog in the hunt
nice T shirts.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I think I bought some once when I was in America,
when I went over and went, oh my goodness, you
can buy three beautiful, white, stunning cotton T shirts for
fifteen bucks.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Anyway, that argument about the Fruit of the Loom label
is that they and they have a picture of fruit
cascading out and that it used to have a corn coopia,
which he knows, one of those sort of curved.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Horn looking things medieval. Do you know about it having
a Mandela effect on the Mandula effect? Because I think
you've told me this before on this pod.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't think so, because I couldn't explain cornicopia. In fact,
it nearly put me off in barkie on the whole thing.
It's so hard to explain what is it?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
What's you've got to do with the Nelson Mandela.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well, that's why that's that's a classic example of the
Mandela because people say they used to have so on
their labels. Now it's a huge brand. They just have
fruit pictures of, you know, an abundance of fruit, like
from a medieval painting, and people say it used to

(41:18):
be the fruit used to be coming out of a cornucopia, right,
so the fruit was tumbling much like a medieval painting
out of a.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Corn shaped a horn shaped sort of you know, got it,
you're right, fruit of the loom.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
The company itself says they never had a cornucopia on
their on their label, it was only ever just the fruit.
But there's always people online finding old packets at their
grandparents pulling them out older there was, but yet they've
made everyone believe it's I don't know why, okay, So

(41:55):
Mandela effect. So that sometimes corporations just take it upon
themselves to invert your reality as you know it, and
I think they're doing it with Hello, Kitty.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
What a walk we've gone on to end up at
a Hello? Why is it called the Mandela effect? Dosage?
But why is it named after him? And Nelson Mandela?
Something they about where he died in prison or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Let me google, oh that people thought he died in prison,
but he didn't doesn't remember when he was the bad one.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
It's named after the widespread false memory of Nelson Mandela
dying in prison, despite his actual death in twenty thirteen.
You're right, thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
That's a very strange way to get a whole effect
named after you. Any Hello Kitty, So this is absolutely
if you were a person.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Your struggle do explain well.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
If you're a person who was easily unseated from the world,
and a lot of people are very wobbly at the
moment because the ship is lurching from one side to
the other end, we not just one iceberg, but it's
impossible to see how you're going to avoid the icebergs.
So people are fragile. There's not the time to be

(43:17):
with Hello Kitty. And yet this is what the company
is saying.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Is Hello Kitty a cat?

Speaker 6 (43:23):
So Hello Kitty is not a cat. She's actually a
little girl born and raised in the suburbs of London.
She has mom and dad and a twin sister, Mimmy,
who's also her best friend. She enjoys baking, cookies and
making new friends several.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You're a cinnamon roll looks kind.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Of like you.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
It's kind of a tiny little girl, right, Yeah, she
weighs three apples.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Cinnamon scroll looks like you. Okay, so she weighs three
apples and she's four apples tall. And they're trying to
make us believe that she's a little girl English a cat.
Hello kitty is? Now this is the.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Heill I'm going to die on. I'm not even a
Hello kitty? A fishinado? Do I look like a twenty
eight year old Japanese girl who hangs out in Harrodjuku
on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
And yet she has whiskers.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
She has whiskers and little ease. And you know how
that woman, that woman who's talking in that robot corporate voice,
you know when they're telling you lies, she was lying.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Hello kitty, It is not actually a cat.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
She's a little girl, English twin girl who likes to
cook and has a twin sister called Mimi. Guess what
Her mum and her dad and her twin sister are
dogs are also cats? What what do you think?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
So?

Speaker 6 (44:56):
What?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
So we're supposed to believe that this English girl is
going around dressed in a cat suit, possibly, but her
mum and dad are also going around dressed in a
cat suit.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I feel that's just so what has happened in the
Hello Kitty headquarters that one day someone ran into the
office and slammed a report on the desk down and says,
she can't be your cat cat anymore. We're gonna get
canceled or like maybe.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
It was because of the furries, what about them? But
actually what they're saying is she is a furry.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Maybe they want to get in with the furry sod.
They're saying that she's not a cat. You're an idiot
for thinking otherwise. Even we've got decades long pencil cases
and pajamas saying otherwise, she's got whiskers like he's my
hot take. Okay, give it to me, because I just can't.
Hello Kitty was targeted for women that maybe often have

(45:53):
like cats because they also like little cute things, and
so they wanted to have a cat vibe. And now
they want to expand and make it more of a
broad audience. So they're saying she's got a cat. But
I'm not wrong, am I She's she's a cat. I
thought Callow Kitty targeted young girls and cat ladies for sales.

(46:13):
I know about cat lady. I just thought it was
a very like Also, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
We like to just sail close to the wind on
this podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
We don't believe in censoring each other. We get the
cook I don't know about the term cat ladies.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
What about them? What about it? About that? I don't
think it's a nice term. Well lady, well old mate,
Taylor Swifts one you don't get called a dog man.
Taylor Swift's a cat lady and she's proud of it.
What's wrong with us? I thought?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I thought, I thought, I thought, I'm also thrilled been
called a cooker. But just because I've embraced the term,
it's like Kanye West can call himself the in word, but.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Just strung together cat lady in any word and expect
me to somehow respond, Because that's the entire point, isn't it.
You're reclaiming and then you have the power, and then
it's learning. Now it's a term of endearment.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
But you're using the term about someone else. If there
was a cat lady.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I I strongly agree with cat lady life staying at home,
people are hello, Kitty's so hello, Kitty is not a cat,
She's actually a forty year old guy from Melbourne, Australia.
Bold recently auditioned for the part of a fifty year

(47:42):
old man who's got a hard condition and no air. Hey,
when do you get the results? Well, classic eighty HD.
I may have delayed the appointment. There's no points. I
haven't gone yet. Why would you? What do I need
to know? You don't need to know?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Do you even make the appointment? Make appointment?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
No? I don't make some appointments for me. No. I
don't like making them at all. I just got toddy
to go and do it, and I still haven't booked
the me. You're always making it. I'm going to Ford.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Didn't freeze itself making appointments. Let me kick off on
something is not perfection.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I have great respect for GPS, I do. But a
rant is incoming here.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Oh my godness, given the middle? Give him the I yeah,
go on a GP.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Here's my rand? All right? I am more than can
you say sorry? Can we do it again?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
But with you saying general practitioners, I just think it
feels better.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, don't forget your appointment with your general practice. Money. Yes,
I am more than okay to spend money when it
comes to medicine and health. I it's like food, more
than happy. Yeah, don't don't bog bill. That's fine. If
you can see me today or tomorrow, happy to pay,
I will just go and I will pay. Okay. I

(49:00):
want you not really of that. I want you the
GP to be paid well because I want people to
want to get into it so there's more of them.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yes, right, And also you don't want them to be
worked to the bones so that they still have time
to do some research, maybe into vaccine adversity.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
There we go. Two things GPS one. Yeah, stop cramming
so many people in per hour. Yes, you do not
have the time to see five of us.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
And in between, do a couple of tally helps.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
And thank you. And I can't remember what comics said this,
but I've never forgotten a lot. I laughed a lot.
I want her to comic say. The rule should be
if you have to wait ages, they should have to
tell you what the person before he was doing. Oh,
I love you, go in there go Sorry about the
delay she thought she had did No, I know.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
But you know what, you couldn't trust them because everyone
sorry about the delay. I had to tell missus carthright,
she's got three days left to live.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
That's what they would say to everybody. You'd be like,
oh no, now, I can't be an asshole. I want
to pay my taxes so people have good healthcare in
this country. You know what? Raging lefty right here? Folks
tax me more. I'm more than happy for it to
pay for that. Actually, can I just here we go?
Hang on a minute.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Why don't we tax the massive mining and gas companies
and export all Our should be the most energy country
radio not cooker?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, I agree, agree taxing. They don't tax them.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I know the squeeze the middle class so much more
similar than.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Tax me more.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Are you a massive corporation stealing our natural.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Resources and shipping them over? I'm an adorable little salt
trader statements every three months you need to pay more
TAXI fool? Why not? I should for health for health? Okay,
all right, me too. I believe that everybody should have access. However,
I want a vip GP clinic that yeah, you pay
top dollar, good tax. There's no tax dollars involved. So

(51:02):
this is jam, pay your extra, your rock up, you
get seen on time, because I haven't booked five people
before you do? You know once I booked the first
appointment and still had to wait fifteen Yeah, I know,
why is that I booked the first? They're setting up there.
They're setting up there.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
They've got there at eight o'clock in which of their
big farmer sponsored panes from their trips to Hamilton Island
they're going to lay out on the disc.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
So when you go and.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
You think that will elicit angry letters from oh, I hope.
So we just love to hear from our buckwarts whether
you're happy with.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
This when you have a referral. So you're sitting there
with me telling I've got to go get this heart test,
and you've got a sheet of paper in front of
you that says my I've got preexisting conditions anxiety, ADHD
and boulding. If you're seeing those, why don't you book
the appointment for me? What don't we just because I

(51:53):
don't know when you're available talk. I'm sitting right here.
You got to get out your calendar. She get it.
I hunted out the thing and gives me the thing.
I'm like why can't you just send this to somewhere
and tell me to go there? And they've got the
like I left there so confused. I'm holding fits. I
don't know if.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
They've got three annoying I know it's an act of fame.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I want a v ip GP purpose, all right. So
I think my final thing is, let me tell you this.
I don't have many much money at all. I would
pay five hundred dollars for someone to book my appointment,
all right.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
That so you're not likely to make an appointment for
me any of my appointments that I have not been
able to.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Pay you money GP.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I hate making appointments. Say anything else.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You know what I go? All right, I will never
think of that appointment ever again.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I'm taking Sunday to Queensland, and I put off booking
the flights so much just because I couldn't be to
do it, even though we knew the dates immutably when
we were going, and every day I would go, I've.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Got to book those flights.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
The Queens couldn't bear it so much so that in
the time of me first planning it and our booking,
the flights have tripled in price because I just couldn't bear.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Do you have a pre existing condition of anxiety, ADHD
or building? So I will book eventually, I think. But
it's up to me now, and no one wins from that.
It's up to me. You know, there's nothing wrong with
your heart. Why is it up to me?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You're all hearts a bit wizened.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
It's a text from.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
My friend's mother in law is coming to stay from England.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Friends mother.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Is coming to stay from England with her new husband,
who none of them have met. So confusing relations my
friend's mother in law so not even her mother. Wow,
that's lovely of her.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I couldn't heave anything worse with a new husband, especially poems.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Why, oh they've got a very They've got a hard
earned reputation of HM.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Enjoying staying with you a little too much? Oh okay, yeah, okay,
hard to shift, hard to shift.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I mean, look what happened in this country whence they arrived?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Oh? No one had a chance of getting rid of them.
Light slash all right.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
So my friend's mother in law is coming to stay
from England with her new husband, who none of them
have met. My friend asked what they might like to
eat when they pick them up from the airport, and
here is the reply. Andy's fair food is pizza, Lol,
pizza salad. He doesn't eat fish either, or cucombo or

(54:44):
broccoli Lol. Loves garlic, bread, loves red wine. We both
drink coffee offs. We tend to eat a lot of
quene wine instead of rice. We eat a lot of salad.
At them more because it's hot. Here, veggies soft for Andy.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Corn mince of pieces is instead of meat. We love
corry with a bit of rice, spag bowl with corn.
I eat totally normally, just not big portions.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Andy doesn't eat eggs on their own, but obviously he
has them in stuff like cake. He has oat milk,
if he has cereal, he has black coffee, so don't
think you need to get any especially ps.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
He doesn't drink milk or have yogurt.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Loves ice cream though, kiss kiss from God Goodness.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Never let them into your house. Never great takes the
mother in law. I mean love, I love it. I
want to know how that wait.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
The Buckup podcast is hosted by me Kate Langbrook and
him Nathan Valvo.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
It's produced by the brilliant Sasha French.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Audio and sound by the magnificent Jack Lawrence, you might
call him Jack and Dom Evans.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Oh, we're lucky.
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