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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Welcome to the What's it called again? Record an episode one.
It's every sort of seventeen weeks. We like to get
together and put out a podcast that comes out three
times a year. It's like a pop up podcast. Oh no,
another one we are so we are just to give
it a bit of shape and context. This is the
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last week on air for the show. In the UK,
I would have a respectable two week break at the
end of the year and I'd work up until about
the twenty third of December.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Is I couldn't believe when.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I moved here and Australian radio shuts down for six weeks.
I actually I'm dreading saying to the listeners this is
the last show of the year on November twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's awkward, it is, you know sometimes listeners like gangry.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, they actually like they do get upset and I
understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's so early, they're still going to work. And then
they're like, oh, these if.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You just going out, then why don't you so long?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Because they shut they stop ratings, yes, and so the
whole currency of radio same as TV. Is about ratings,
and so if if we're out of the ratings time,
so they're like, we ain't paying yet.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah, but they also want you to rest because.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They don't care about that. It would work me to
like bloed if they could.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It is about eighteen hours a day of stuff on
this radio station.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I don't care about rest. That's the funniest thing you
said on this podcast. Are you high right now?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
But we do.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We align.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
We align with school holidays because the most.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Don't break up. The kids do not break up on
November twenty ninth. They at least they were doing another
two weeks.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Private schools do know, they don't.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Know how long December.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, it's early mid December.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh well yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Oh and then I have no reasoning as to why
we break up so early.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, So I thought we could talk about sort of
the year as a whole, how we're feeling about next
year as well, because when when we stop, I don't
stop stop stop, We're not doing the show, We're not
doing the hour. So there's let's wear and tear. So
I am looking forward to the break. Been a really
full on year this year, so I'm looking forward to
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the break. Actually, However, I also get very excited because
I guess it's like a farmer's field that you've been
sort of working and seeding and growing, and it you
let yourself go fallow and you allow new things to
come through. So I get very excited by this this
period of time.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So what do you do during this time storm?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'll still as things happen, I'll still make notes and
I feel like I would do when we're doing the show.
So and then I like to I think you can
look at the bigger arc of it all. That's what
I get the time to be able to do is
actually look at where have we, where are we now?
How do I feel about that? And where would I
like us to go? And then I think individually, where
am I in my kind of I guess, my journey
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of doing this, and what do I want more of
less of?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
As well?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Next year it's a big year for us personally at home.
Lois eight year old daughter will leave home in February.
No kids at home, so that's all part of it,
as well as is kind of like knowing that it's
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Oh thank you very much, Josh. Have you come from bed?
You appeared to be wearing pajamas actually actually look like
he's escaped from an institute.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
This is We're not on the set of One Who
Flew Over the Cuckoo's Next.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I've just come back from snowboarding.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Thank you very much for that. So, yeah, has he
gone to work like that?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Australia, we're talking on today's show about the passion, well
the lack of really And I've never been to a
more casual country I go to. You go to a
formal event and people are still like dressed scruffly.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yes, that is true.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I yesterday was sitting down there and I said to
the guys, without even looking, I bet you huggies on
his way down because I could hear his thongs slapping
on the floor.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That may thongs.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And jack Like, I said, we need that rest, you know,
so I can come up more terrible jokes like that.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Who do you think the most stylish in our team?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
The way.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
The way you're asking that, you were smiling like obviously me,
it is you, It is you.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
But I would say it is a low bar.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't think this is a particularly fashionable myself included.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I would I like to think that people would think
that I make some efforts.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You do look very nice.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I want to be as scruffy as certain team members
Jack Post. You know Patsy also is on point every day.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yes, she does look beautiful, apart.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
From when it was like the Monday after the outcro
waters where she looked like something out of her Tim
Burton movie Hell An a Bone. Oh wait, you're not
in character. Oh sorry, you've just been drinking all weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Now I wanted to go back. You were talking about
it being a big time for you over this break.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, huge change. I would say,
the biggest change since we became parents. You now got this.
It feels like another coming of age. There's all this
attention about the sort of Ferris beauty years, you know,
when we were becoming eighteen nineteen, you know, that journey
from being a teenager into an adult. This is the
next coming of age people don't talk about. It is
what happens when the kids leave home and what happens
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to you with all that all that time, you're being
gifted a boat.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it's not just that.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know where you are on the arc of your life,
and no other time have I ever ever felt.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
That, yes, because you're raising kids.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So all you're doing is raising kids, working, raising kids,
making sure that everything's running on or running on track.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And then suddenly you get this, Oh it can wait.
They leave home.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Of course you always knew, but now you're actually in
that reality.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Well it was all about them, so you weren't focused
on yourself, and now it's kind of like they're gone
and the silence has come.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, yeah there is silence. Yeah, there's that. There's going
to be that.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So it's the same for my wife, even more so
for Sarah because obviously I've not been there in the
morning for ninety five percent of the time, so I've
been doing the radio show. So Sarah waking up in
a suddenly a really quiet house the first time in twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Years, big thing. So it's a lot going on. And
then in the middle of that, it's like, well, what's.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
What does the radio show mean to me? This Saturday,
November the twenty eighth is twenty six years of breakfast
radio for that, So I got half my life on
fifty one. It's over half my life I've been doing this,
and so you kind of think.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Like, where what do I want?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, what does it mean to me now? Which
is a nice question to ask, because it's changing massively.
What it means to me, what it meant to me
ten years ago isn't what it means to me now.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So what did it mean to you ten years ago?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
When I were in the first I would say, the
first ten years of ra Breakfast Ready for me, it
was purely about being the funniest man on the radio.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'd tell you the whole show was all just about that.
That that, And then what happens is after a while
that becomes a straight jacket and you're you're saying jokes
and things that actually you don't believe. And then that
I think it tied in fact, when I was becoming
a dad as well, I was changing, and then you
suddenly like, I feel embarrassed by some of this stuff now.
And so then it's the hard thing of like, how
do you evolve? How do you change? How do you
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do that? On in front of a microphone, your times
evolving out loud, and it's yeah, that's a bumpy old
path I'm still on.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's a lot of mumbling and stumbling.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That actually is what I would name my next book
about radio mumbling and stumbling.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I love that, I actually love.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's the mumbling and stumbling, and actually the stumbling is
where you stumble into the gold sometimes or our.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Version of gold sort of you know, fake gold Goldie.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I like that you were saying, kind of what does
radio mean to you now? And you've been doing it
for so long, But you, guys, will be.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The same thing why you got into doing this. Yes,
will be changing its meaning, yes, of.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
But I even think on this show, and I've worked
on quite a few shows that even though you say
you've done it for twenty six years, you haven't done
the same thing for twenty six years, like a lot
of people do.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, even you.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Get frozen into an act, then there's nothing worse than
that you sort of you sort of become concrete. Yes,
you know, we've all heard those and we've got actually,
you know people like this in your life, don't you
who Actually sometimes you see haven't seen for a while,
and they are exactly the same, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, and it's sort of calloused a bit to life.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
I really like the word evolving because on this show,
I've every day you push us to evolve, so we're
not just happy with what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think a lot of something, honest is probably pushing
you to madness.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yea sometimes now.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm just hoping one of you would say no, no.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
No A use that just put it back in the
other bit.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
But yeah, I'm always evolving on the show, and that's
what I love like. I don't feel as though I'm
just stagnant and doing the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
We're always pushing.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Ourselves to be better, to do more, to think of
things different to me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I don't like that. I don't know I thought that
we have to push ourselves to be better. I think
it naturally, if you're getting it right, you create these
conditions where you naturally will enjoy it more, find different
ways to make it easier and get into flow more,
and there will be improvements. Rather than purely trying to
improve that feels like you're not good enough, and as
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a part of you, when we ever feel that that
inherently resists that. It's like, it's actually, why wouldn't you
want to Like a tree, it is just constantly evolving
and unfolding. It does it naturally, and I think it's
about getting out of our way. The moment I come
in and think, and this does happen a lot. I think, God,
I've got to be fun. I've got to do all
this for three hours. I'm really tired. I didn't get
enough to sleep last night. It's all too much. I
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get my own way. I'll have a harder start to
the show the more I then sort of refresh myself
and just got to think, I choose to do this,
I'm lucky to do this.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I really enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I'll to start the conversation with Jack and Pats and
let the show unfold.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Then it's lighter for me. It's like, right, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That was the biggest surprise I think when I first
came onto the show is that your sort of way
of getting better wasn't to like work harder and work
harder and making its more difficult and like increase the hours.
Like if we wanted to get better, it was always
for you, like making things flow, making things easier, making
things lighter, making things more simple. And that's something that
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that was like a big learning for me because for me,
like you're always taught, like going through school, like you
gotta work harder and you do this and actually like
a lot, letting go of a lot of that is
actually the.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
What happens then is everything improves, yes, naturally, because it
just you're getting actually in the way of natural improvement.
And we work in a real cutthroat industry, so this
isn't woo woo, right, I can't keep doing this job.
I'd get I would have been five years ago if
it was. It's not about being lazy or passive. It's
actually it's hard to actually describe to be. But I'm
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hoping they're listening and people are understanding what what what? What
the essences are what I'm saying, because you would have
experienced this in your own life anything.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
With stress, like you're stressed out, you have no ability
construction there, Yes you can't. You just your mind just
like focuses on that and goes over and over and
you don't.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Have the ability or the freedom to just let it be.
And I think that's very very true.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So I think it being and letting it unfold as well,
and then actually things do just naturally improve without any
of that kind of like a drilling structs or a
personal trainer, going harder, faster, quicker, stronger.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's fucking exhausting. I don't want that life. I don't
want that life for my kids. I wouldn't want it
for anybody, you know. So it's that and you're.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Right, you've proven that that ability like to do that
is the best way to approach it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, but I'm not very consistent with that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I most of my twenty six years been characterized, I
would say, about an awful lot of burnout. And that's
where I do get into that You've got to do more,
You've got to come up more ideas. Look's like a
hamster word in my head, and so it's about trying
to undo some of that. But that's still my.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Version of that. But you guys have that you really
care about the show. You work really hard.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I bet you find it very hard sometimes in the
afternoon to actually leave it all behind. It's like, oh
my god, is that going to fall over this afternoon?
And so you guys have a different kind of accountability
to me. Yes, you know, and that's heavy for you
guys to have have that of a different kind.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But I I think that how you've
taught us to approach things, which is that let it
be we work as hard as we can to make
something work.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
We do, and if it doesn't come off, there's a
reason for it, and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah. And also it's like, what is it? What is
like at school? You're right r.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The emphasis is all about getting the right answer, knowing
the right answer. No, you've got it wrong, bad you
you feel shame. I guess you don't. I must never
get anything wrong in life where possible. I got to
never let my house out out again. Actually, what you
realize a lot of the fun is actually when it
goes and inverted commas wrong something you in that situation,
and you've got to make it funnier. Talk about what
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it is falling over. This isn't going very well. This
is a terrible idea of mine. That's real life. That's funnier, way, way,
way funny. I was watching the Olympics, remember the Olympics
this year, and the surfing was an entirely even part
of the world. I had these yes it was, and
I was watching it right and they had two commodators
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and one of them was really good, saying now you
know that people might be watching right now. I have
never seen surfing and how it's marked and how it works.
What do they need to know? And they had this
formal world champion who said something unbelievable which speaks this.
This person said, well, basically, what it is is the
person who's having the most fun wins. And I was like,
oh my god. I literally got my notepad out and
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wrote it down. The person who's having the most fun wins.
They're more experimental, they're more in flow the moment. They
think I've been training for this for the last four years.
I've dedicated all of my life. I have to win
gold or it's all going to be worthless. That person
is not going to do their best.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's like when you like you look at Lebron or
anyone like Michael Jordan. You know when they're doing what
they do that with Flair and that they're not doing
it because they're like so left leg here right, and
they're he's in play. He's just he's in flow. Look
what happens. He's not doing it because like Phil Jackson
on any of the coaches is yelling at him, like
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get get some more hurt god.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Turble.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
This year, well, we did a couple of things this
year to kind of help with that. And I think
one being our post it notes. So we used to
have a board that was in the studio. That kind
of happened.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That was the stress me out.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I've been back at school and stuff like that and
never even looked at it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, so it's just kind of like one day was like,
that thing really irritates me.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And then I remember when I was like putting our
long stand up shows together.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's what I did. I would just think of a
story and idea, put it on a post a note
and put it up on a wall.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
They don't think of another one and another one. Then
I try them out, and it all felt very light
and easy. It's just shit on a post a note
on the wall.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It is.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'd tell some of the shit is actually that's actually
working on and I was just lighter with it. And
then and and so we only did this a couple
of months ago. Now, if you look at the studio wall,
we should take a photo actually put it up there.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You'll see.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's like we just pitch around ideas and so there's
stuff up there reviewing the reviewers. Walking Wars, which is
about a thing that happened to me a couple of
weeks ago. Which I still haven't got around to talking about.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I'm desperate to hear.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'll tell you what that walking wars is about.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
It's simply about how the other day I was at
Walworths Okay and the supermarket, and there was a I'm
walking straight and sudden there's a lady coming from my
left and we're going to be walking to the escalator
at the same time. I'm sad to say, I put
a bit of an extra sipident. Yes, I wanted to
beat her, and it became important to me, right I
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know she is. Then she started to So now we're
in a walking w It's so and how many times
you be done this? When you're walking down the street,
you overtake somebody and now they've sped up as a.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Good car does as well.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I can't keep I can't keep this space up.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
They're gaining.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
This up.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I can't walk this quickly.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I always do that at the airport, Like you get
off the plane and you're in a rush, and then
like you kind of overtaken someone and then they.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But you can't sustain that pace and you kind of
set the fifteen hundred meters.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You've broken out the pack too soon.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
And you don't want that thing to happen where Like
in the car, you get stopped at the red light
and you've kind of taken off and then they come up.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
The lights.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Lights are just changing, they've got momentum, you're standing start and.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Then they pulled bast God damn it. This is the
worst day. That is the walking walls.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So good.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
There's also one up there that we were a bit
scared to do on the air.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Which one oh fuck, fuck, this dear listener is is
actually the name of an uber driver, Right, I got
an Uber and I you know, when you have to
say something, I'm looking at thinking there's no other way to.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Pronounce this other than so I go.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I put, like a slight foreign, excellent your name, and
he literally moved the rear view mirror.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
To me and he went, yes, I went.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Foreign. You know when the Google translated puts, it's always
some voice like that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Who is that guy? All the ways sound like that,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I wanted down to know I pronounced crazy the other day,
and so I went on there and stuff like that,
you know, Spanish meat, and it was like clear.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was like, this guy has got a hell.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Of a great voice, Yeah anyway, So I went your name,
but I didn't do it like that, so I became
bor rat, like your name Naddy, naughty, you won't fuck.
So I go to him your name fuck and he
laughed and he went, it's uh, it's you fuck. I went, wow,
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mimer Moore, and he goes, it's cost me girlfriends. I mean,
what do you mean because I'm going out the day
and then they start taking mick out the name and
after a while I want to move on. They don't
want to. They're like, old, I'm going to take a
photo of you and can you film you saying your name?
I want to send it to my friend and then
we get into an argument. He goes, it's cost me relationships.
So he goes, I said, oh wow. So he was
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telling me about his it's a family name important to okay,
it from a long line going about hundreds of years
of fox. So he said he didn't like. He moved
into Melbourne eight year go. He didn't learn any English right,
so he didn't even realize that he had a funny
name because to him, that's not an unusual name until
he's a learning English and English school here and the
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teacher goes, mystic, you fuck and the cast is laughing.
He doesn't understand, he doesn't understand what's going on. They
were like laughter every time, and he's like looking at him, go,
they're really odd and he can't understand any English.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And then he gets up to speed.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Anyway that there's been laughing at me all these years
and he can't get laid because of his name.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So anyway, I go, but why have you changed it?
He goes, I have now I'm Trevor went, why have
you done that? It goes an Irish.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Flatmate and I always liked his name, went Trevor, but
Trevor fuck.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
And Trevor also, I'll say not a sexy name.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, yes, Trevor fuck. But obviously I can't say his name,
which is his name on the show, correct, I can't
get the fuck?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah, we get in trouble.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
In trouble is someone's name.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yes, I do know.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
But if there's a child in the car or they're
hearing is what if the child gets an uber Well,
they're not reading his name.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
He can't hide his name.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know what they should do is they have a
kids who be driven by kids. But it's just like
a small motorized car special lay. Anyway, that's that story.
I don't think he can ever go on air. No,
there's another one in terms of like I think this
is too dark, right, I asked my wife and after kids,
(20:45):
They're like, don't do that, you just you actually just
make people cry.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
We lost our dog a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Dog put down right, And you know what, when I
love watching the oscars, I like actually being moved by
when they go in memory memoriam who we lost this year?
What about at the end of this week we do
what about the pets that have been lost.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
This year?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Okay, last, let me go back to so what it's
just like in your hair, just.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Christian, we lost we lost Terry the beagle. Terry was
a buffet ve It's just future.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I don't okay, you understand what.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I'm trying to do, like it could? You know?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I was thinking about this because the wording matters with
this one. I need to set the right tone because
this is a celebration pets lost this year but never forgotten.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Too serious heavy, I think you're like, it's more like
tell us about your you know, favorite memory of your dead.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But you can still that's that's lost is better than dead.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
It needs to be a positive in memorial.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Rainbow Bridge, Yes, yeah, now I think that's the area.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You kermit doing. Rainbow Bridge Rainbow Connection.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Oh my god, it's the most moving thing, almost beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
What I would love is for you, maybe tomorrow, to
just pitch this to Jack and pattern you get there.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Reader, you're only doing this to make me look forward.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, no, no, we're not. We're not doing.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
It you Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
For example, if she just it's relentlessly sad and you
were going to it's just sad, it's it's just sad things.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But what I love is like like Nisa and I
miss I miss my dog. She was an awesome dog.
I missed her. Have you morning when I get up
because she.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Was like excited to see me and it caught us four.
So the house is already quiet at the moment. So
I've got good memories of a great dog, okay, And
that's what I missed. It's keeping those memories alive because actually,
then she's not she was never really a dog. She's
part of your family. Then you know that she loved
your dog.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yes, obsessed with my dog, absolutely devastated.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
They give you a conditional love, so they're not really
just a dog.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Or a cat or sake.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Do you know every morning, for five minutes, I scratch
Henry's belly when I get up earlier.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You love it.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
There's a great start to do it because I just
love him so much.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
And sometimes, like you know, I spend all day work,
so when I get home and be like, all right, imagine.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
There's sadly one day you've got to put them down
and just say goodbye to him, okay, And then sudden
there's a guy on around and going eight.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Tell me about Henry.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And then you suddenly hear you just make me say,
then you hear that's lost this year but never forgotten.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I would not be able to call it in. I
wouldn't be able to speak.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Let me speak for you.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, they can message in with their lovely favorite memories
of their pets, and.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
With Henry, that's great. Henry.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Henry was a rip of a little dog who would
spoiled to just live for that five minute belly rub.
I hope you're right now a cross that rainbow connection
having a good old belly rub Henry, Bye bye.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I love that. I Actually I like the dear of
a text because then if people.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Cry no, no, no, we can't let them too much.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
So the text is great. And texting your favorite story
about them, I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Not sure about that because they don't really do that much.
It's not like.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Once, you know, was.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
In the pub, you know, and he was like, let's go,
let's go do some karaoke, and I'm like, what beers that?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Come on? There's an illgal place. He used to be
a world owner.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay, I saw that guy.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
There's no great stories.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
About I had a great story about unnything.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Everything story you have is great.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Do you want to hear my great story?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Once upon a time he went out the back. He'd
put some clothes on the line, and.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
He couldn't find the pet. No, my uncle couldn't find
his favorite singlet. It was a blue singlet.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Many days later he saw it popping out his dog's
bum and he had to pull the singlet out of
his dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
We can't have that, can't have that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, it's not it's okay. It's like a magician's trick
when he pulls it out of his pocket. You know,
all the all the all the the flats.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I think we have the skills to do this in a.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It's sad, It is so sad.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
There are some parts of life of the sad.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, alright, But
I just wonder if it's just going to be just
upsetting the people who just suddenly tuning in with no warning, right,
no warning, they can't have it. I'm really having a
bad week and I'm coming to my guy, coming to
Christian and I can rely on him.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He's like a cann of coat. You open up, you
know what you're getting. Made me laugh.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Question because life's tough, and I'm like, Pad's lost this
ship but never forgotten. Let me tell you about parakeet Pete.
We last Pete this year. He's up there right now
flapping around in heaven, but sadly flaps his last flap
in October. We missed parakeet Pete. The kids are still
crying at night and they go, hurarchy pee, hury.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
We can't have it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
No, what about six word?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Dead?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Pet would have been six words?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Do six word ulogy?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Six words eulogy? No, if you have to put nature
in six words, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You can't see up in six words, that's what I've
just said in six words, you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
All right, So anyway, this is why we do this stuff.
We watch out.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Here's another idea OA Oasis. Bigger, big year for Oasis,
even bigger year next year. Now bigger because they were
never going to get back together. You know, they're saying
this is the world's biggest reunion too. It's huge, big,
So of this, what's the story Morning Glory feature? What
is the story Morning Glory? Rio reads out a headline
(26:51):
A long time, We've got to guess what the story.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Is, okay, Well, like I read out a headline yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
From a moment in history, and then people are going
to guess for what is the story Morning? Like?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That is the story Morning?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I love that great. I'm locking it in for next year, looking.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
In for twenty five.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Also, you know what, why don't we just why don't
we just say our dream and intention for next year?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Sure, let's have a real talk.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
The dream for next year talking about Oasis is that
I take the show to London. We're ten listeners and
then we all go and see the opening night at
Wembley of Oasis in London. So we'd be on air
the whole week broadcasting about Live to Australia. That is
my dream next year, in the middle of July nineteenth
to the twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yes, that's what I want to make happen next year.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yes, and we are working for.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
A big stretch. It's an adventure. Obviously, we need commercial
partners to fund this because it would cost a lot
of money.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yes, it would cost a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Many Jack sort of business class.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, he always asked, because she never seed.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You on the day other than when he needs to
fly somewhere.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Remember when he started to stretch in the morning before
the show and that lasted maybe like two days.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Remember that wrist rolling thing for half a show and
then never saw that again.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
So what would it mean for you to like be
able to do something like this.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh it, it's so much fun.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's the countdown to it, it's working out how we're
going to do it. And then I just obviously because
I was in London for so long, there's so much
there's so much fun things to go and do there.
Perhaps he's never been to the UK, never been to London.
Her going off and see Bucket windsor Castle on going
to Harrod's and reporting back on that is so much
(28:44):
on and that is going to be the event of
next year.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Absolutely waste his first show.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
They're doing other shows obviously before they get to London.
I appreciate that. But the really big thing is, you
know they sold out ten nights over a one hundred
thousand at Wembley and it's such an iconic mega stadium
that as well. That would be incredible and to count
down what it's going to be like to that would
be amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
And you've always wanted to take the show back to
the UK listeners. Yeah, so being.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Able to do the two together, it's back to London
and its favorite band of all time. It was just
such a perfect alignment that if we could do it,
it would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Scene and be an evening show for us. Yes, six
am in Melbourne would be nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yeah, so it'd be starting nine o'clock on.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
A Sunday, would be the Monday morning show.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, yeah, going nine pm till twelve, So right for me,
I think it'd be fun. Yeah, that's great. Jack Post
goes to bed about call of Bars seven. Yes, that's
I mean, it's not exactly, cartworlding into the studio.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
At six am. Tell's he going to be like not
at nine?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
From nine, ten, eleven, twelve past.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Nine in years yeah, jet.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Lag, yoh, we might not have him for a couple
of shows. I reckon we might.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
He might be there, just be like the Wiggles.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Wake up, Jeff, that's so true. We'll deal with that.
Would do.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That would be incredible We've never done it. Would be,
like you said, a real stretch for the show.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Come on, it was big when we took the show
to Dingley Village.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
True, great, So that was a great jow you.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
If you can make it in Dingley Village, you can
make it in That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It is what they say.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And we've been here like watches the seventh year of
the show.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Now next year, twenty twenty five, it feels like Time
will be seven years old in July. We will.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, Yeah, it feels like it feels like we've been
building and building and now it's time to take.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And we've got a reason to.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And I wouldn't do it if we can't take a
load of listeners as well, because that'd be incredible thing
to give away.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Come and join us, on the plane trip of an
absolute lifetime, especially for our audience to like to be
able to go. And as you said, like Oasis broke up,
no one ever thought they would ever get back together.
You see that again, and that's devastating as a huge
fan to think I'm never going to be able to
see them.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, I never thought what happened.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah, but for them to rejoin, it's just such a
moment in history to be a part of, and for
us to be there and amongst it is so exciting.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
There's a song of theirs, right, and it's one of
the lessons on It's called at Quiesce. And if I'm
putting that set list together, you begin with at Quiesce
because there's a line in there we believe in one another.
The moment they sing that on the stage together they've
not been a cheer for many many years, will be
electric and you want to be in it to feel that,
(31:36):
because this isn't about This is bigger than rock and roll,
and these days like bands are in demise now it's
all solo answers. We're talking about this a couple of
weeks ago on the show, how it's all solo answers. Now,
don't get it's the end of the year. In now
there's not so many bands breaking big like that. Theirs
is a real it's a life story. They dreamt of
making it. They were from a really poor neighborhood. They
dreamt of being rock stars. They wrote songs about being
(31:57):
rock stars. Literally, one of these songs is that. And
then they made it, and they made it really big,
and then the whole band broke up. And then it's
like what happens in families. You don't talk to each
other for years, Your mum keeps begging you to get
back together again another Christmas. You can't be in the
same house together. It's real life. It's so interesting. Now
they're in their fifties and like.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What changed.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
There's been a gradual thing that we don't know about
over the last couple of years of a growing up
and growing older and knowing where you are on the
arc of your life.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Again, just imagine that moment where they kind of that
first reach out between them two, Because you've interviewed both
of them during the time that they despised each other.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
What was that Like Liam was always very pro and No,
always always anti it, like never going to happen. Don't
want it to happen. It's not like they haven't been
offered hundreds of millions before. They haven't been offered like
so much money, did glances and bring and stuff like that,
and literally just you walk on that side of stage,
you said, we don't talk to each other and you
go separately, go home. They've been off for all of that,
and that wasn't ever enough. It's not about the money.
(32:52):
The money is a big, big, big thing, but it's
not about that. Yeah, because they've been offered that so
many times. They could have cashed it in and made
easy money doing. It's about something else. That's what I
find in th about it. So it's like connection to
being where you first met your favorite band. So for me,
the nineties and just what it was like to be
younger and everything was aflame with possibility and potential. Just
what it is to keep I think, to catch up
(33:14):
with that part of you, as well as like, wow,
you know, I'll be fifty two next year and they're
in their fifties. This is amazing. They're they're back doing
all those songs I used to love. How amazing they're
back together. One amazing thing. It's going to be for
middle aged people. This is the Taylor swift eras.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes, absolutely beers.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
The Beerest Tour. That's what they should have caught actually,
but it will. It's such a great story. It's just
so interesting. Yeah, and yes, so being right at the
heart of that, taking the show and and capturing all
and doing other stuff, you know, Jack and Pats and
me hanging out in London and all of us like
doing stuff in London. You've been London, London and the summer,
it would have a wild time.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I've never been.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Oh really, you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Will lose your mind.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, there's just so much history there, all cities, Melbourne, Sydney,
all cities. You know, Dublin has it as well. How
do you unique energy? Okay, London is how would you
describe it?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Rio?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The history is the thing that struck me the most
because in a way, of course it's like a very
modern happening city, but there every single street you feel like,
as an Australian who's read about it and storybooks and stuff,
you honestly feel like you're in a storybook the whole time.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It's crap.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, Visually, it's it's probably one of the most beautiful
looking cities in the world. It's done so much obvious
history there in the buildings, you know, and they're all like,
can't they You know, You've got the town of London,
You've got Big Man, You've got Buckingham Palace, House of Parliament.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You've seen it in so many movies and you're there
and it's.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
It's very big, physically imposing city as well, isn't.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's so this sounds stupid, it's so English whatever, You're
like stereotypes of England, Like it's exactly You're right.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Even when I went back two years ago, you know,
I could feel this contrast, like God, the accent really
is like you know, and I have only been here
a couple of years, but yeah, I could feel it,
like at the pace of it, the energy of it
on like the big red buses.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I start to see it with different eyes.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes, one morning of doing breakfast radio in London for
almost twenty years, never ever, one morning did it not
just impress me so much.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
That I get to do a radio show in this city.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It always have to go over the Thames, and so
sometimes i'd see Big Ben or these other.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Is this is this is incredible? What a privilege it is. Yes,
I still get that here.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
When I'm coming into Melbourne, I see a city and
I see people in cars, I see big buildings that
I'm going to talk to people that be going into
those hospitals to work there, and that it just ignites me.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Still, I still get such a passion and buzz for it.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
I totally agree.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
I get that exact same thing I remember for me
when I was younger, I remember thinking, imagine if one
day I worked for a show that was on a billboard, Like,
imagine if that happened.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
And even though.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Many I try, I feel bad you can't put that
in a billboard, but even.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
The idea and the same with you.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
I come over the West Gate and you get a
full view of the city as you fly, as you
drive in, and I think of that more often than
not that I go, Wow, I get to produce a
show that goes out to all these people in this city,
which is just an incredible feeling.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
I get the same buzz yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I get it every time I get a text message
or an email from someone who's listening to a podcast
somewhere it's so good. Oh my god, it's like the
magic trick is still working. Someone's emailed me about the
thing that we talked about six months ago. It's incredible.
My wife was my mom was away for a couple
of days and she raimed me said, Chris, so special
(36:47):
to happened. The last couple of hours, two separate people
have come up to me and gone, oh are you
he married to Christian on the radio?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'm reready sorry about your mum and she was. That
happened twice within a couple of hours. It's so incredible. This.
I don't know what it is, but it's something really
special and magical about it.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Connection. Yes, just with strangers, but they're not strangers.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, that's what I think is the magical thing about
doing this still in the morning as well, because I
think morning is a really I can't imagine doing radio
any other time of the day. I've had so many
offers go and do drive time and stuff like that,
but it would bore the pants off me. In the morning,
people aren't quite put together. Joy, you haven't got your
armor plating. Yeah, the world hasn't got your set. You're
(37:27):
actually quite open, You're still just stumbling out of that
sort of sleep mode, right, and then you haven't liked
you speak the same people at four or five of
the afternoon more often not the day hasn't quite gone
to plan, haven't got through there to do lists, right. Actually,
it's a bit tired in grind being like, oh gosh,
I want to get home, have a beer or glass
of wine. That same person early in the morning the
day is potential. They haven't got there yet. I haven't
(37:49):
quite got the body armor on to sort of plate
up to deal with life, you know, and the office
and whatever's going on in their life. So it's actually
people are kind of a bit more open to have
these intimate conversations with you. It's actually a really privileged
time of the day to chat to somebody and to
be a friend to them.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Hopefully.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Yes, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
This has gone deeper than and why do you think this?
But do you think it's because it's the end of
the year. Yeah, halfway through the year would be like.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It is during the year. It's absolutely chaos. Chaos in
a good way.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Not it's just like you're busy and you are working
and you're doing the minutia and you're going through.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But now you know it's coming to an end.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
So actually, as we're recording this, a's a Tuesday, and
there are just three shows left of this year together,
you actually have a you have a greater sense of it,
or don't. You can look back and go, God, we've
done a lot. When in the middle of it you
don't even I never look back. It's always about now
or tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Where are we with that idea?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, so now you can almost look back just what
you've done, that the path you've taken, this.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Sh and go bloody. We've done a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's been a lot of ideas so works, some haven't,
but it doesn't matter. They're all generated and shared in
the same way with the best intentions. Some are terrible.
There have been a couple of stinkers this year, you know,
and there will be. I guarantee it. Stinker's coming in
twenty five. We're going to be stinking up. Whether you
like it or not. You're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
But they do bring us joy, like even though if
they work or they don't, it's always fun to just
try and give it a go. Yeah, what have you
been your favorite moments of this year, if you've got
any in particular, I.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Think for me, right, it's the every day magic of
it just kind of exploding into joy. Sometimes it might
be Pats and I having a chat or an argument.
It might be Jack and I chatting to about a
story and sort of getting into it. It might be
you know, rio you being Gary Klaus and you're just
(39:52):
mucking around, right, there's no script and you're just having
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You actually are not aware you're on the radio.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
There's none of that, right, you don't even know what
the time is, You're just in that. That to me,
it's the everyday potential that that could happen and arise
at any moment.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That that's the highlight of any year for me.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
It's that it's a cool if someone telling just an
amazing story, someone surprising you Friday, cool of the week,
and then someone crying and you realize, oh, there's something
going on in her life right now, you know, And
then she says her husband was a car accident the
week before, and just all of that. That that's the
highlight for me, is that you get to have that
(40:32):
every day that might happen tomorrow. More often not that
will happen to have that spontaneity, and it does. It
explodes into joy from something quite small and silly sometimes
or actually something really really heartfelt.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's all the same.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
It tilts it back to most shows. But I can't
even remember never not being a show. There's always some
moment where it explodes into joy.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And to have that in our lives every day, that's
the best job in the world.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Oh, it's so lucky.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yeah, because most of the times we tend to treat
our lives like it's an endless to do list, like
life is something you have to do or it does
to you. And then sometimes you remind yourself that life
is an adventure that we get to go on, and
that's what it is. When we get on the radio
show every day, it reminds you this is an adventure
and it might go sideways, it might go nowhere, but
it's like it's still playing the game.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
You're stood in the river. There's something very precious about that.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, Even like you just said, like favorite callers,
there was one that I remember and these are more
often not the things that stick with me along it
because I talk to the people before they get on
the air, so I take on it first and kind
of react first to it and then get to see
the joy of you guys having.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
That first reaction stories.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
So there was this story earlier in the year and
I can't maybe it was like Odd Animals or something
like that. I can't remember what the phone was, but
we had Barry the barrel Mundy.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Do you remember that story?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yes, and the woman she had got like caught a
barrel mundy at a small size a baby, and they
essentially grew it in their home and it was like
the most chaotic story.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Just keept getting bigger, well.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Bigger and bigger, but just Barry the Barramundy just killed me.
And I remember taking the first saying, oh, what's your
old pet name? And she said that Immediately I was like,
you're going on straight.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
But yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
It's time to draw this to an end for this year,
and we will pick up this conversation and more exploding
to join next year. Thank you very much for being
a big part of my life this year, and actually
you guys, seeing you guys, you guys had a phenomenal
year on and off air, and I think even you
being on air and part of the actually getting bigger
voices as part of the show has been That's been
(42:41):
one of my joys of the year, actually seeing that
seeing other people flaish. But you two have had really
big I would say, In fact, I would say it
is a breakout year for both of you.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Oh thank you must feel that just what you've done
this year.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, definitely launched your podcast.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes you finally did it. Y. Yeah, you Rio have
gone from strength to stay to strength. You are so
good on air and maca. You know the stories. We
get a lot of them, and some of them aren't stories,
but every once in a while, you know, you knocked
out the path so many times this year and during
the Matilda is amazing glory run you you really you
(43:16):
you explain, you really shared what it was going on to.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
All of us.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah, that was the start of what I felt was
because I never wanted to be on air. That was
I loved being a producer and that.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Kind of you're more charismatic than most of people.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
But I have started to really enjoy it now rather
than going oh no, that's not for me because.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
It's just a conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
People don't think it it's actually when you just remind
yourself well, the way I do it is like I'm
obsessed with obsessed with trying to treat this like a
like a good conversation you have with friends. It's always
just getting it back to that, Just tell me what happened.
It doesn't need a punchline at the end. No true
stories have a punchline at the air. I remember seeing
the Edinburgh Festival years ago, the female comedian tig Nataro,
(43:58):
and she told the story and it was like really
really funny, really funny, and it just ended and then
it was just like, as she goes that that is
the story and then never was a big love like that,
she goes because it happened, and then I think that
is that is a true story. The moment you went
and then this happened, and I said, and then this happened.
(44:19):
That last bit didn't happen. That's all fine, because you'll
want it all tied up and it's there's a nice
craft of that as well. But it's just about just
having a conversation and letting it just unfold, letting it
just be carried along to seeing well what might open up,
where it might go and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
That's what was about.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
But well done this year and I'm gonna just, i
mean think about how do I bring this all close
this just let this, these words float into your heart.
And that's my invitation to everyone listening right now. Shows
lost this year but never forgotten.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Thank you. Look Christian Connell Show podcast