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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Day.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Sc all right, Everyone joining me now is the official
first out of Drag Race down Under season four.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Don't look at me like that. Don't look at me
like that, Olive Dreams.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Kyota, Curda, Kyoda, Mitch, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I am so good, honey. How are you you looking
hot and happy for first out of the season.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's a look, you know, a little bit of stuff.
Petty doesn't feel good. So I'm back. The bitch is back.
I mean the bitch is back. So where did you go?
We're on a ninth long sabbatical. Back to Wellington, you know,
retreat sanitariums, you know, all the good places that a
draqueen needs to go after being the official pork shop

(00:50):
of a season.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, listen, before we get into the episode and what
went down, I have to say here's a hot take. Olivia,
first out is a great position to be in the
first out over second out. How do you feel about it?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm really great, you know, like I'm going to be
remembered because I'm the pork shop. I'm the iconic pork shop.
You know, go on other Amal days, it's the Olivia days.
Now when one supreme fades another one rises in her place,
and this is the year of Olivia dreams.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't think Animal's going anywhere. And I'm not talking
about the drag queen.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Some in the fridge if you want.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Some much, but shame I've got someone Ice forgets.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
You can look at that, look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
We're good, quis we know what we're doing. Yes, we
did talk to me genuinely about how it felt in
the moment, because you know, I speak to the queens
every year, and it is the genuine toll of preparing
getting the call with only a few weeks to go,
organizing looks for all the runways, and then preparing yourself
for the challenges right then the finance, and it's a lot,
and then to get there and to be sent out first.

(01:47):
I mean, what was your genuine human reaction rather than
a contestant.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
My genuine human reaction was like, I was absolutely shattered.
I was an emotional re like I braved it all
the then as soon as I got off stage, I
literally broke into a little heap of tears and tissues.
And it was for the fact that like I had
just gone into my head and I had gotten in

(02:13):
a sabator and I was so unhappy with myself because
before I came on, we'd spent weeks prepping and I
said to myself during the whole time, just have fun,
just have fun, just have fun. And I just got
to the point and the show where I wasn't having
fun or not as much fun as I wanted to have,
and so I just felt like I let myself down

(02:33):
in that moment, just let myself down and was absolute wreck.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, I speak on behalf of all the gays
everyone me Elton John, you know, choice of un every
gay that exists. You did not let us down. You
did not let yourself down. You were sensational and you
didn't let Wellington down, which I have to say, as
the first Wellington Queen, I mean, thank you for showing
us Wellington drag. What is Wellington drag? How does it

(02:58):
differ from any other drag?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I just want to say, it's really nice to meet
the Chaka Khan of the gay people. So krudos to you.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Mitch, but I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It was just so amazing to showcase Wellington drag as
the first Wellington Queen on the show. And the great
thing about Wellington Drag is that we've got such a
cauldron of drag. We've got drag beauty, you know, our
beauty queens. We've got our fashion, we've got our comedy,
we've got our alternative, we've got drag kings, we've got
drag things like. Wellington's the creative capital of New Zealand.

(03:33):
If you want a different type of drag, you're going
to get it in Wellington. We've got dart schools, art schools.
If if it's creative, it's in Wellington. So to see
people bring that creativity from what they studied or what
they're studying into the drag world or Wellington's drag world,
it's just so amazing to see all the talent that's
here in Wellington.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh and we're coming back because in Untucked we saw
you say you were worried about what the other girls,
the queens would say when you returned to Wellington, And
what was the feedback like, and what has it been
like after being eliminated.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Honestly, I haven't even was this of anything yet. I
think a lot of people are just really proud that
we've finally got a representation on the on the tally.
I think I had let myself or work myself up
into this hysteria almost of oh my god, I'm going
to be perceived so so badly by everybody in Wellington.
They're gonna think it's a waste of opportunity. And I

(04:27):
think that comes back to the whole like ansabitos and
I was just really over analyzing everything, and I think
the stress and the pressure and the sleepless nights of
the leading up to filming, the filming itself, like it's
a pressure cooker environment and it just got a little
bit too much for me to handle in that moment.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Oh bless you're gil true, like you said, a sweetheart,
Come on.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
The thing is like, vulnerability is cool, right, It's so
nice to see vulnerability on TV. And I'm glad I
got to show vulnerability on TV because I feel like
it got let people into who I am as a
person and sort of broke down this facada. Well, Olivia
is actually a human being as well. Olivia dreams don't feelings,
drag people do have feelings too.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. There's two types of eliminations on
Drag Race. It's the one that shows humility, right and vulnerability,
and then there's another one that is like this was rigged,
this was robbed, and there's two very different types of
fans that come from those experiences. So I think you've
got your an underdog now, which is you know that's
what you want?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Right absolutely? I mean like, you know, I've given the
world a little teaser of what Olivia dreams is and
now they just have to wait for the whole damn
meal to come out.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
So I'm starving Olivia. Now, hold on, Am I an idiot?
Or is Olivia dreams? Like I'm living my dreams?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
You've got it, You've got it, You've nowed it on
the hudden one, it's a play on I'm living your
dreams because who didn't want to be famous when they
were little?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
All of us? We all did did I don't know?
Did you dream of wearing a wig and makeup and
tugging your peas well?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, like, let's just no, I did it. I
did it. But if this is the pastest, I'm not
going to say no, Mitch. Sometimes, you know, a star
comes out of the sky and knocks you on the
head and it's wearing a wag and a dress.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I completely agree on that.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Note.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
How's your relationship with your parents? Are they supportive of drag?
Do your parents are not?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Absolutely? Like, my mom is my number one fan. She
had been there through my entire journey, Like I grew
up in a small rural town and she saw on
how unhappy I was. But she said as soon as
I moved to Wellington and as soon as I started
to get into the drag, she she took me aside
and she said, I'm so happy to see the person,
but to see the person you're coming becoming, fuck that up.

(06:38):
I'm so happy to see ye, see you as the
person you're supposed to be. And it was just such
a like such a heartwarming moment. We both had a cry,
we both dried to touch tears, and we're like, Okay,
let's never do that ever again because that was just
too softy for me. But no, it was. She'd been
my number one support. And my dad is absolutely supportive
as well. I mean his typical dad.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I sent him my promo emage for the show on
via text because it doesn't do social media, and then
all I get back about five minutes later was a
sums up emoji and I'm like, thanks dad, Thanks dad.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'll take it, you know. Yeah, that's what I can get,
you know, take that. Oh, I'm happy for you. Well,
you know, personal life aside. The competition is fierce this year.
Who did you when? You know, we all saw the
entrance lines. We've got two episodes out now, we you know,
have got two wins in the form of Lazy Susan already,
I mean, a clear front runner in your eye, in
our eyes, in your eyes watching it and being in
the in the competition itself, who is the front runner?

(07:35):
Is it Lazy Susan? Do you all sit there and think,
oh my god, it is Susan or how does that
work in the competition.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think it was really hard to gauge, really because
we're all bringing everything that we had, so we really
didn't know. I think it's too early on to see
who the front one was or who who was really
killing the competition because I think if you look at
it at an overall, yeah, probably Lazy was you know,
she's reaping the rewards. But I think when you look
at it individually, we all had strengths, we all had

(08:02):
our power plays, and I think, yeah, it's just far
too far, too early on to really see who was
pulling ahead. Because the critiques were absolutely like here, I
just remember the critiques were just slip by hair in
some moments literally split by hair, and we were all
tossing up like, well, who's going to win that? Because

(08:24):
everybody did such an amazing job.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I can see that watching. I also feel like
for you, I saw you on that stage and I
felt like you were in your head like you felt stressed.
And was it because it was the Michelle visage of
it all? And it was because you've had you know,
you had Queen Cong there and you had Isis there.
Is that what threw you off? Or was it just
being there on television?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It was just being there on television, like all the
lights in the face, the cameras in the face, the
loud music. I think I was a little bit overstimulated,
to be honest, and I was like, oh my god,
what's happening that I wasn't you know, Michelle and Queencong.
As bad as it sounds, wasn't afterthought. I think it
was just the reality of, oh my god, I'm on TV,
this is going on TV, which kind of threw me

(09:07):
off a bit.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Wow, Now tell me about I want a real question
and this is real answer. Because I got a real question, Okay,
in that episode, if it weren't for you, who genuinely
did you think was going to go home first? And
maybe even on first entrances and on the first episode,
who in your gut did you think that's the first?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Not a breath, not even a breath.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, Like I was looking at it in a very
analytical way. I was looking at it a very what's
the tracker her like? And so I just thought, no,
shade to listen. I love her to best. I think
her mother is absolutely gorgeous. I think she's a gorgeous person.
But at that moment, I was like, Listena's going home,
like it has to be She's lip thinking twice like

(09:51):
come on, but you know it is what it is?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It is? Why? Why do you think she was saved
of you? Do you know why?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I honestly, you know, the powers that be have not
have not told me. But perhaps you know, production just
saw her having a nice character arc or I don't know.
I really don't know. I'm not mad at about it now.
It is what it is. I'm going to take this
pork chop brain and I'm going to absolutely demolish the
world with it. So you know, I wish I would

(10:21):
have stayed longer. Wish. Yeah, I thought I ate that.
Let's say, but hey, let's let's let's let the audience judge.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think they have. I've seen some tweets about that.
It almost looks like you know what a crocodiles eating
at the dinner and it kind of grabs, it grabs
the meat that it rolls. It's like a battle. That
role at the end. Was it was intentional? Please?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That was what it was. Intentional, not more intentional.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Because I was watching and I thought it was great.
I could not do it. I would break both hips, yeah, instant.
But watching it, it felt like you were jumping into
a summersault and you went, oh, I'm not going to
make it. So I wanted to do into a role.
But okay, it was all planned. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
It wasn't sum it was always there was always meant
to be a role. Like I was pushing the boundaries
of that dress as was. So I was like, this
is going to be a role. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's on a roll. And then he rolled right out
of the competition. How funny.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, And I rolled right out off shirt. I just
kept rolling. A rolling stone gathers no math, Mitch, So
I am still rolling.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Then I stop. I'm holding you. This is It's nice to.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Be held for once in my life.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
How was Michelle as host? Because you know what I
heard is that the Queens didn't know that she was hosting.
You all thought it was RuPaul when you first started
in episode one. Is that true?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, Like we didn't have idea that Michelle was coming,
and so when she stepped through that workroom, oh my god,
Like she hadn't even spoken. But she commands such a
presence when she whenever she's in a room, like she
just can stand there and we were all just falling
over her. She just exudes this energy which makes you
feel safe. And she's just got so much confidence. Hope.

(11:55):
I was hoping that some of it would have rubbed
off on me, but apparently not. But like if being
critiqued by Michelle, just being around her, it was such
an amazing experience. It's such a national experience. Like I
don't think any of the critiques that she gave me
were bad. Yeah they were like portrayed as negative or bad,
but like it's just what I needed to hear in
the moment she wants. She saw the potential in me,

(12:17):
and the same as Queen Kong. They both saw the
potential in me, and they just wanted me to break
out of the shell that I had built around myself
because they knew that I had talent under there. And
now I know, like so many months on, like I've
got that talent. I'm an awesome drag person. I'm a star.
And like it's just they may come across as negative

(12:38):
or you know, but I just think it's just what
I needed to hear in the moment.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, no, I agree with you completely, and you need
to have these moments to grow. And it's such a
dorky thing to say, but as a creative, and you know,
like you need to kind of be knock down a
couple pigs to only.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Go up absolutely, Like drags always about elevating yourself, going
to the next stipl Like my makeup's improved so much
since film. That's one thing I always like wentz back
and look out. I'm like, oh God, Jesus Christ, that
was bad makeup. But like now my makeup's improved. I'm
much more confident in myself. I'm much more confident in
who I am as a performer. I think I was

(13:12):
probably a little bit too green to be on the
main stage of drag Race on that, but I was
there for a reason. And that's what I'm telling you know,
that's what I'm trampioning forward, is that I was there
for a reason. Yeah. Like cool, you can hate me whatever,
you can think that I'm ugly, but I don't think
I'm ugly. I think I'm gorgeous. And the matter of
fact is I was still on drag Race and you weren't.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Who is saying that is Are people actually you're getting hate?
Are people actually saying you're ugly and untalented?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah? I mean, like I do the naughty thing when
I log into x formerly Twitter and just you know,
scroll sometimes and then do scroll And yes, I'm not
so nice people on there. But at the end of
the day, like people are allowed their own opinions, you know, opinions,
Everyone's allowed to have them, even if they're wrong. And
I just sort of look at it and go, well,
the fact that you're talking about me means that you

(13:59):
know I'm worthy talking of.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I agree, I agree spoken of. Now I need
to ask trade of the season, who in your opinion,
because you know, a type is a very subjective thing,
so in your eyes, name the trade of the season.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well I thought it was me, but then I got
informed that it couldn't be new So obviously it's Makita.
Mikita Aman like gorgeous and then out of drag and
there were a few girls that were drawling over Nikita.
So really yeah, I mean, like, how how could you
not like nikidath model model, absolute model, like put put

(14:35):
her in a magazine, put him in a magazine, Like
they're just absolutely stunning to see in person.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
What's the what's the filming process? Like, I mean, is
there any chance for a little you know, cheeky hotel
room swapping or not?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Absolutely? Not? Absolutely? We are like watched twenty four seven.
It's like, couldn't even go outside for a vape without
having a mind with us, and you'd be like vaping,
You'd be like an e vape and they're like, no,
I'm just here to watch you.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Okay, Oh my god. So what do you get in
the hotel room? Do you get access to like stand?
Can you stream things?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
No? So we only got access to cable TV. So
it was actually really funny because we would all go
home and then put on the TV and then we'd
be like, the next morning, so what did everybody watch
on TV? Did you catch the Forest Gumphrey one? You know,
it was really funny.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
We had TV.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Thank god. We also had a bath tub, so I
spent a lot of the you know, filming days afterwards,
just soaking my feet in the bathtub after wearing heels
all day. But it was Yeah, it was a fun time.
I really enjoyed my time on the show.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Good Well Deserved. You were a star, Honest to god.
It's only up from here. If you're a Wellington queen,
you need to go out and go watch and support
your local drag scene. Olivia dreams. Go and watch, Olivia
see the other queens. Lots of drag kings out there,
and then I believe, hopefully we'll get you. Maybe will
you come to Australia? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Absolutely, match like that's next yeps for Olivia. I think
gonna solidify my position here in New Zealand, but then
I'm also gonna branch out, go over to my sister
over in Australia, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast, maybe even
go over to South Australia, maybe even go to perse
if I want to. But I've also got friends over
in like the UK and the US, so it's bringing

(16:11):
my drag over there now that I'm an official, well
not a rugirl, I'm a Mitch's Yeah, Mitch's Mitches b
Ward and yeah, just it's only up from here. Watch out, world,
because here comes Olivia Dreams.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Your dreams coming to a gloryhole near you.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Hey, I've told you not to tell anyone about that.
I'm so forgetful, it's all.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I adore you. Thank you so much for chatting, and
I can't wait to see you in the flesh performing live.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Thank you so much much. Take care,
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