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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Guy Sebastian, Welcome back to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, Hello, my guy. Much calmer week this week. You
guys would have been busy last week, busy last wee
year with the election going on Melbourne Melbourne Cup was big.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, the election.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do we any money?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I wonder.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I don't do bets. I don't bet on horses or politics.
My two rules.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's easy. You know. I did a thing where I
stood with the Prime Minister a few years ago. Yeah,
and it really went down like a lead balloon. I
didn't realize. I just thought, oh, it's the Prime Minister.
He asked.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
They've asked me to do this opera and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I remember this you're in the background of something, or
you do a performance for no.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They well, it was during the extremely difficult COVID times obviously,
and there was like an arts package. So I got
a call from Opera and Aria saying, hey, this is
going to be a lifesaver for you know, musos, and
so I thought, well, I don't want to just jump
into this like I'll get my I'll get At the time,
(01:12):
I got my bass player and a few like crew.
I wanted them to tell them like, like my bass player,
am I like my musicos, what's this going to do?
And I wanted them to be able to say, hey,
if you end job keeper and stuff, we're screwed, like
venues are still shut, yes, how are we going to live?
And that all happened and and but I guess what
(01:33):
I'm saying is like I never really I don't care
about politics to the sense where I'm not going to
talk about that same way I don't really do, like
I don't I don't air what my thoughts are on
big issues like religion or things like that, because I
just think everyone's different whatever. Like I love having people
who are my mates, Like you just had to chat
(01:55):
to Timbo guys guys, best mate Timbo cor and I
loved it and he and me and Timbo are very
different people. I love that though, Like I like having
people that believe different things to me. I think it
just sort of makes you think outside the square. Sometimes
it doesn't mean you change who you are.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But like it's easier to guy sometimes to stay out
of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know you're a musician and people are like, oh, guy,
I got paid for it, Like I didn't get paid
for that. Like I thought I was doing the right thing,
but I got Yeah, I'd learned my lesson just to
like maybe don't stand with prime ministers and stuff because
there's half of the people that love them and half
people that hate them. Right.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, that's like the election in the US last week.
I feel like Australia is heading towards We're heading.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Towards hope not man, have you been there like close to?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I was there in July this year and it was
I was there during the Biden debate when by, oh.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Whatever is the poor thing?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Like I speak for a living and I stumble over
my words.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, man, that's like every day I stumble over I
never say what I actually and thinking of my brain
that I was there in July.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And it is. It's there's an energy in the air
when it's an but it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Goes for ages too, like how long. I'm so glad
it's done and dusted because how long? Well it's not,
it's never done. It keep it going.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
But now albow this week is like I got elected
in however, long old slash twenty percent of hex step
for students, so we're now starting for the long and
the long.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, we shouldn't go down that way.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, I don't want it. It's too much. It's very
stress It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's stressful and it's divisive. O my gosh, I know
it's intense.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well listen, you're here.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I was only saying last night when we were playing
your song, I reckon because I like to sensationalize things.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'm like, I reckon an album? Who's this song about jewels?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I just love to it's just because of the he
left the Voice, you know, I just like to say
anything to keep people.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I wrote it about close to a year ago, probably,
but it's definitely about what he announced on Instagram last night.
I'm live it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
No Reason to Stay is the song.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, it's it's a thank you for playing it. By
the way.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, I'll be honest. I performed this on the Voice
because the voice is pre recorded, and I was like, oh,
what I want to do? What do I want to do?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Like this isn't going to go to air until later
in the year.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what. I really love No Reason this day.
I love that. I know it's going on the album.
I'll just perform that. Probably won't be a single. I
don't think anyone will play it. You know, it's kind
of like it's not like a big pop song. It's
a soul country kind of song. And but you guys
have supported it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So I appreciate anything you play, anything you release. We played.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I did a version just for you guys, actually just
for you, just for radio because I cut the guitar
solo out, which was a bit soul destroyed because the
guitar player he's played, Jubu has played on Whitney, Houston, LUSA,
and Dross.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Like when I kid, you know, when I was recording
him in.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
LA, every take he did like we were like, you know,
it's like I fight that I can't describe that dealing
of that energy when like magic happens in the studio,
it's such a good feeling. And especially when it's a
song that I'm just like with this one, I got
bits at different times. So I got like a bunch
of vocalists that I follow on Instagram and that I
(05:17):
think of like free singers. Got them all in a room.
They're all like on tour with Biber and like around
Brande and Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Like Kesha.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Kesha's like a She's on tour with Beyonce and like
they're all freak singers, getting them in a room together
and getting them like I'm singing all the parts that
I'm hearing right, It's like they know it before I
sing it, you know, they're so just soulful. And so
I'm hitting record and putting these bits down and I'm like,
(05:47):
oh my gosh. But then but then you sit it
down again because you know, next week I'm doing keys,
like I'm getting this guy that I love. His name
is Ali Roots. He's played on tons of R and
B records, and he's a freak keys player. So I
got him to put some Hammon organ and stuff, and
he played piano actually on this. And then the only
thing that's left of me is my voice and my drums.
(06:08):
So I put some drums down at the very start
of the process, just so I had something there for
everyone to track their stuff too, and then it ended
up staying on the record. And then I've just drummed
on another record because I started playing drums and I'm
not like a bet when when did you start? When
I was young? I was in a band when I
was when i was younger, and I've got my It
(06:30):
sort of inspired me to set my drums up at home,
like as in in my studio because I don't know,
I've been programming so much, programming drums, but nothing beats
a good sounding live kid.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So the drums in this song about your drums.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They're actually a drum kit in La where I recorded
the But you're playing I'm playing, yeah, get out.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's you on the drums.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, it's nothing fancy, but the drums themselves sound amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Drums are hard, like the foot and the brain in
the hand, like I can't do.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I've tried to play drums. It's coordination.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but once year it's like anything, it's must or memory,
you get it. But it's funny, it's it's something that
is a real recurring thing that I've found so many
people are so scared to get into music or anything
right technical because especially you watch like Instagram and your
feed throws you this person that is like the most
(07:20):
incredible radio person who's so funny and has a list
of jokes that they draw on their memory is incredible.
They're articulate, witty, and then you you think you judge yourself, yes,
and you're like, I don't think I'll ever get to
that level.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The algorithm knows it a prick. The algorithm tries to
get into your insecurity.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, it's aiming to inspire you, but we get in
the way, right, Okay, Well, I mean, how else can
you be inspired but seeing things that inspire you, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
But then it's over to us where we go either.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh my god, I man, I love what they do
and I'm going to aspire to that. I'm going to
work on myself, or you go, what who does that?
Some people do? Man?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Do you do it?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No? Not always? But I'm getting better because like, like,
for example, I've played piano for a long time, but
I've never had a lesson, right, So I've never like
sat down and practiced scales and things. I just played
by ear and now I've just started this course. But
as an adult, we're so used to being great at something,
(08:26):
or we're so used to seeing greatness and hearing greatness
that our expectations are way up here. When you're a
kid and you're learning chopsticks for the first time, you're like,
oh my god, I'm playing that. That's me. I'm playing that.
You're like, you get like excited about the bar bar's low,
and so I think, what I've learned is if you're
(08:50):
online and you see these people who are like beasts
at something, trying not to be overwhelmed by it, try
and be inspired by I keep telling myself that, like
and so, yeah, I don't know, I'm trying to I'm
trying to trust myself. And a good example of that
for like Ringo Star Beatles Beatles, anyone who's a technical
(09:10):
drummer would go technically. Ringo was not he you know what,
He sometimes went off the metronome and sometimes his his
feels were kind of pretty predictable. And well, when you
replace Ringo Star with a technical drummer that plays a
different feel every time, now that feels not a hook.
(09:31):
Like if you think about the drum feel in Phil Collins,
you know, the one that the Gorilla famously on that commercial,
Like that's a literally anyone who hasn't even played the
drums could jump on and play that. Yes, if that
feel wasta, that's not iconic Ape is jumping on and
(09:55):
doing some some paradidally feel that. And so I don't know,
I've learned a lot about just like, hey, how I'm
playing it, It's going to be how I play it.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I agree, I agree, And I also think there's magic
in not striving for perfection, you know, and I in
radio also, and radio is different. Not to make it
about radio, but you know, when you're on the air,
people want to listen and they want to feel that
they can connect to that person, and they want to
feel that they're a friend and they're normal and they
have things in common. If you're out there and you're
performing this piece of perfection and you're trying to think
of every word, it's never going to resonate because that's
(10:28):
not how you talk. When I heard you and your
mate on the phone earlier and it gets brought up again,
what was your mate's name on the phone again? The
way you and Timbo talk, you know, you want to
hear radio and podcasting and the same for all entertainment
that is in the same way that you and Timbo
would talk.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's just naturally easy, real conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like that pursuit of
perfection as well, is only you doing it. Yeah, it's funny,
like your listeners aren't sitting there going hey be perfectly articulate.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I know, I know, but it's weird because you get
busses that you have all these chicken shit ideas and
tips and they got talked like this and you know
you should slow down in the reality you hired to be.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You, just be you.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
People love authenticity, they do, they really do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I got stuck in this one thing I remember, and
I wasn't prepared for it. It was at kiss Yeah,
and I think something happened to Kyl and Jacko and
I filled in or something. Oh no, no, no, they
did this thing where they locked me in the room
and I had to just take over. I was so
bad on air on my own And who was it?
It was a politician that called in. It was like,
(11:32):
not Peter Dunton, it was easy Tony Abbott or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, this is back then.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I did.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
I didn't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I was just like, Hi, how are you going? Like?
And all I could think of was don't ask about
speedos or I think it's Tony Abbott like but that you.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Know, you don't ask about this, that's about that your job.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
One of my point is it's so hard your job.
Oh please, so hard? People think radio street forward, Yeah, okay, cool,
here's a microphone totally for an hour and have people
want to listen to you. You're right, people have already
switched off halfway through my sentence.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Let's keep them back in. Let's play new from Guy Sebastia,
No Reason to Stay. I love it, Guy, It's bloody, brilliant, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You're playing. No stop, Let's play it more. We've got
when we're back after this.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All right about Guy Sebastian is here in studio, just
played No Reason to Stay.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Guy, You're heading to Amsterdam? Is that true?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I am? Yeah, at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
My last gig before COVID was in Amsterdam, was it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And what song blow up for you in Before I Go,
Before I Go, Before I Go?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah? Yeah, what do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Why?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know? There was a real cool let me tell
you why, because of you guys. Really yeah. I don't
know if you know this, but it was Kyle and
jack They've got huge fans over in the Netherlands with
there's a breakfast radio team, Yes, and they listened to
Kyle and Jackie and they had heard this song and
(13:03):
they were like, oh, I mean, Carl and jack you
are like it's a very cofeted success. That's like no one.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Has that that revered in different countries.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It's incredible, like like hats off to them.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And this was like this, they're the number one in
Amsterdam in the Netherlands and they listened to Kyl and Jake.
They heard my song on there and they were like, oh,
let's give this a spin and they broke that song
for me. Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, So you're going back? You doing a festival?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is it right? There's a festival. It's like a Eurovision
head grove. I don't know how to say.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It there that sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He grow there festival have you been to?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yes, you've been?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, a few.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Tea Do you walk through the streets? You get the
little hash brownie?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh you have?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You've got to go to a Bulldog cafe?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And yes, I stay to the Bulldog Cafe. And I
don't know where to stay there. There's one that's a hotel.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's like being in a Dutch oven. They're just just
permeate up stairs, continuously high.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And these Greek backpack of girls. I didn't realize they
were swindling me.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So I was there traveling on my own and I
booked a solo room because you can get you can bunk, right,
it's a hostel, so you can bunk with other people
from around the world, or you get.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Your own room. So I got my own room.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anyway, I couldn't work out why these Greek girls were
like all over me.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm like, you're barking up the wrong tree. No amount
of hash is going.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
To be some kind of weed that is there a
turning wheed.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know, I try it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'd given a co and they were pushing on my girls.
It's not going to happen if you've got any brothers.
I'm interested. But then about halfway through the night it
dropped and she was like, please, we want to use
your room to sleep with boys. Our room is that
aroom is bunk beds, but you said private the room?
Please can we sleep with me? They wanted to use
my private room to sleep with the boys they met,
(14:54):
and I let them.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Did you want?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I let them?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Okay? Well, I was like, where did you go that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What do I get at?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You go to the bunk room?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah? No, I I just I was fine free. Yeah,
I just took my passport out and my cash. I'm like, well,
I'm going to steal my feather.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Button, my third party wingman. Yeah, I am I at pimp,
not even a friend like Wingman's usually a friend. You
were just like there, but I felt so heartbroken.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I'm like, they want to be my friend, they love me,
like can we sleep in your room? Like wow, that's
my app stamics.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You had a reason to go. That was your reason
to go. There was no reason to stay.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
No, God, are you good? Bringing no reason to say guys, they.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Liked it like that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
When they finished, they heard the choir.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh they did well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
They heard it before they finished.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yea before I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Now I might try quickly. What happened with a voice
before we let you go? You just you'd run its course?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Actually nothing, If I'm being honest, it was like, and
I said this, it's funny when you have a meeting
about like your gut. Like I was like trying to explain,
I was really nervous. I actually I've rang jewels on
the way in because I didn't. I didn't think about it. Heats.
If I'm being honest, I just was reacting to what
(16:23):
my gut was saying. And my gut was saying, do
you think next year is going to be different to
the last six where you've had no time for anything
else except for juggling a schedule where it's like, all right,
you're filming from five am to blah blah blah. And
then if you release something, you've got to work. If
(16:45):
you write something, you've got to finish that within this
allocated time, and everything's so scheduled. I have no time.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
And my priority, to be honest, is my art and
my family.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like both of those things are the things that I
might big priorities, So I'm not going to trade in
I guess, you.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Know, being like an absent dad that is always busy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like I had a thing for you guys last week,
and Jules was she was watching this author, this author
was speaking somewhere, and I had the boys, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I've got a cover to do in
the morning for kids. I need to make a track.
And I could have just gone into the studio and
let the boys, Like what am I going to let
(17:32):
them watch stuff and be on their iPad or something. Yeah,
it's dad night. Yeah, like it's not every day, Like
we're just left alone, me and the boys. So I
did that, and then at ten o'clock when they finally
went to bed, like I went in the studio, I
didn't come out till four in the morning. But but
I know that I need to put in those hours.
But that's what I end up doing. And then I
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woke up and I like felt like absolutely rattus. And
so I think for so long, I've just been trying
to pretend like I've got time to do all of
this stuff and my touring and my album takes a
back seat to the point where I've taken over four
years to make this album. Wow, so I shouldn't because
I write quickly like it's just haven't had time. And
(18:15):
so that's literally I was just saying to them. I
was like, they're like, what is Is there anything we
can I was like, no, that they would assume there's
something wrong with the gig. It's so positive, Like it's
such a great gig for me.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I said to them, I find this gig really easy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like I love talking and I love like mentoring, and
I love music.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
It's a perfect gig for me.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just know that in my guart, my gut's been
telling me nothing's going to change next year. All of
those comments you read about hey, when are you coming
back to the Netherlands when you're coming back to Philippines,
like like, I've got music that is getting slammed in
places around the world and I don't even go there.
And the fans of writing when they see a live
(18:57):
performance on something, going, oh, are you going to come
back to Sweden? And there might be thirty people at
this gig? Like who knows, there might be fifty, There'll
be more maybe but maybe not right, there might be
Like my last gig I sold out in Amsterdam that
was in twenty eighteen, just before COVID twenty nineteen, Sorry,
twenty nineteen, that's five years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And I think I just got to this point.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Where I need to prioritize, like being uncomfortable again, sitting
in that red chairs, comfy and a totally yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Well, remember where we met you. How uncomfortable were you
when you were doing an idol when you were a kid? Right,
and look where it's skyrocketed you. I feel the same,
like I think the best comes from when we are
pushed outside of our comfort zone because we run on autopilot,
you know, like when you do something I've done, this
show I've done, I mean in radio nine years next year,
you can you get to a point where it kind
of just falls out of here, right.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, And you're comfortable. And what comfort does when you're
when your schedule's four, It doesn't leave room for you
to have surprises, no life, And I think I just
need a few surprises to go. Oh. I didn't think
i'd spend two months in Nashville writing with so and
so and so and so and.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Like a night in the Bulldog Cafe in Amsterdam.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Being ripped off by two horny Greeks.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Now that sounds like a fun time, all right, I
gotta let you go. We talked for far too long
every time, but I love having you in. No reason
to stay guy Sebastian available now? Is the album next year?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, I've got sort of a bit of a surprise
announcement with that. I was going to release something this year,
but I've held it off only for a few months.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
But the payoff will be a lot more songs.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, good, good, more guys Sebastian on the way. Thank
you for coming, buddy, We love it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Pleasure
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Guy Sebastian, Welcome back to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, Hello, my guy. Much calmer week this week. You
guys would have been busy last week, busy last wee
year with the election going on Melbourne Melbourne Cup was big.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, the election.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do we any money?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I wonder.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I don't do bets. I don't bet on horses or politics.
My two rules.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's easy. You know. I did a thing where I
stood with the Prime Minister a few years ago. Yeah,
and it really went down like a lead balloon. I
didn't realize. I just thought, oh, it's the Prime Minister.
He asked.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
They've asked me to do this opera and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I remember this you're in the background of something, or
you do a performance for no.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They well, it was during the extremely difficult COVID times obviously,
and there was like an arts package. So I got
a call from Opera and Aria saying, hey, this is
going to be a lifesaver for you know, musos, and
so I thought, well, I don't want to just jump
into this like I'll get my I'll get At the time,
(01:12):
I got my bass player and a few like crew.
I wanted them to tell them like, like my bass player,
am I like my musicos, what's this going to do?
And I wanted them to be able to say, hey,
if you end job keeper and stuff, we're screwed, like
venues are still shut, yes, how are we going to live?
And that all happened and and but I guess what
(01:33):
I'm saying is like I never really I don't care
about politics to the sense where I'm not going to
talk about that same way I don't really do, like
I don't I don't air what my thoughts are on
big issues like religion or things like that, because I
just think everyone's different whatever. Like I love having people
who are my mates, Like you just had to chat
(01:55):
to Timbo guys guys, best mate Timbo cor and I
loved it and he and me and Timbo are very
different people. I love that though, Like I like having
people that believe different things to me. I think it
just sort of makes you think outside the square. Sometimes
it doesn't mean you change who you are.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But like it's easier to guy sometimes to stay out
of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know you're a musician and people are like, oh, guy,
I got paid for it, Like I didn't get paid
for that. Like I thought I was doing the right thing,
but I got Yeah, I'd learned my lesson just to
like maybe don't stand with prime ministers and stuff because
there's half of the people that love them and half
people that hate them. Right.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, that's like the election in the US last week.
I feel like Australia is heading towards We're heading.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Towards hope not man, have you been there like close to?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I was there in July this year and it was
I was there during the Biden debate when by, oh.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Whatever is the poor thing?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Like I speak for a living and I stumble over
my words.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, man, that's like every day I stumble over I
never say what I actually and thinking of my brain
that I was there in July.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And it is. It's there's an energy in the air
when it's an but it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Goes for ages too, like how long. I'm so glad
it's done and dusted because how long? Well it's not,
it's never done. It keep it going.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
But now albow this week is like I got elected
in however, long old slash twenty percent of hex step
for students, so we're now starting for the long and
the long.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, we shouldn't go down that way.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, I don't want it. It's too much. It's very
stress It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's stressful and it's divisive. O my gosh, I know
it's intense.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well listen, you're here.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I was only saying last night when we were playing
your song, I reckon because I like to sensationalize things.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'm like, I reckon an album? Who's this song about jewels?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I just love to it's just because of the he
left the Voice, you know, I just like to say
anything to keep people.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I wrote it about close to a year ago, probably,
but it's definitely about what he announced on Instagram last night.
I'm live it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
No Reason to Stay is the song.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, it's it's a thank you for playing it. By
the way.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, I'll be honest. I performed this on the Voice
because the voice is pre recorded, and I was like, oh,
what I want to do? What do I want to do?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Like this isn't going to go to air until later
in the year.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what. I really love No Reason this day.
I love that. I know it's going on the album.
I'll just perform that. Probably won't be a single. I
don't think anyone will play it. You know, it's kind
of like it's not like a big pop song. It's
a soul country kind of song. And but you guys
have supported it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So I appreciate anything you play, anything you release. We played.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I did a version just for you guys, actually just
for you, just for radio because I cut the guitar
solo out, which was a bit soul destroyed because the
guitar player he's played, Jubu has played on Whitney, Houston, LUSA,
and Dross.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Like when I kid, you know, when I was recording
him in.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
LA, every take he did like we were like, you know,
it's like I fight that I can't describe that dealing
of that energy when like magic happens in the studio,
it's such a good feeling. And especially when it's a
song that I'm just like with this one, I got
bits at different times. So I got like a bunch
of vocalists that I follow on Instagram and that I
(05:17):
think of like free singers. Got them all in a room.
They're all like on tour with Biber and like around
Brande and Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Like Kesha.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Kesha's like a She's on tour with Beyonce and like
they're all freak singers, getting them in a room together
and getting them like I'm singing all the parts that
I'm hearing right, It's like they know it before I
sing it, you know, they're so just soulful. And so
I'm hitting record and putting these bits down and I'm like,
(05:47):
oh my gosh. But then but then you sit it
down again because you know, next week I'm doing keys,
like I'm getting this guy that I love. His name
is Ali Roots. He's played on tons of R and
B records, and he's a freak keys player. So I
got him to put some Hammon organ and stuff, and
he played piano actually on this. And then the only
thing that's left of me is my voice and my drums.
(06:08):
So I put some drums down at the very start
of the process, just so I had something there for
everyone to track their stuff too, and then it ended
up staying on the record. And then I've just drummed
on another record because I started playing drums and I'm
not like a bet when when did you start? When
I was young? I was in a band when I
was when i was younger, and I've got my It
(06:30):
sort of inspired me to set my drums up at home,
like as in in my studio because I don't know,
I've been programming so much, programming drums, but nothing beats
a good sounding live kid.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So the drums in this song about your drums.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They're actually a drum kit in La where I recorded
the But you're playing I'm playing, yeah, get out.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's you on the drums.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, it's nothing fancy, but the drums themselves sound amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Drums are hard, like the foot and the brain in
the hand, like I can't do.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I've tried to play drums. It's coordination.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but once year it's like anything, it's must or memory,
you get it. But it's funny, it's it's something that
is a real recurring thing that I've found so many
people are so scared to get into music or anything
right technical because especially you watch like Instagram and your
feed throws you this person that is like the most
(07:20):
incredible radio person who's so funny and has a list
of jokes that they draw on their memory is incredible.
They're articulate, witty, and then you you think you judge yourself, yes,
and you're like, I don't think I'll ever get to
that level.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The algorithm knows it a prick. The algorithm tries to
get into your insecurity.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, it's aiming to inspire you, but we get in
the way, right, Okay, Well, I mean, how else can
you be inspired but seeing things that inspire you, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
But then it's over to us where we go either.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh my god, I man, I love what they do
and I'm going to aspire to that. I'm going to
work on myself, or you go, what who does that?
Some people do? Man?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Do you do it?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No? Not always? But I'm getting better because like, like,
for example, I've played piano for a long time, but
I've never had a lesson, right, So I've never like
sat down and practiced scales and things. I just played
by ear and now I've just started this course. But
as an adult, we're so used to being great at something,
(08:26):
or we're so used to seeing greatness and hearing greatness
that our expectations are way up here. When you're a
kid and you're learning chopsticks for the first time, you're like,
oh my god, I'm playing that. That's me. I'm playing that.
You're like, you get like excited about the bar bar's low,
and so I think, what I've learned is if you're
(08:50):
online and you see these people who are like beasts
at something, trying not to be overwhelmed by it, try
and be inspired by I keep telling myself that, like
and so, yeah, I don't know, I'm trying to I'm
trying to trust myself. And a good example of that
for like Ringo Star Beatles Beatles, anyone who's a technical
(09:10):
drummer would go technically. Ringo was not he you know what,
He sometimes went off the metronome and sometimes his his
feels were kind of pretty predictable. And well, when you
replace Ringo Star with a technical drummer that plays a
different feel every time, now that feels not a hook.
(09:31):
Like if you think about the drum feel in Phil Collins,
you know, the one that the Gorilla famously on that commercial,
Like that's a literally anyone who hasn't even played the
drums could jump on and play that. Yes, if that
feel wasta, that's not iconic Ape is jumping on and
(09:55):
doing some some paradidally feel that. And so I don't know,
I've learned a lot about just like, hey, how I'm
playing it, It's going to be how I play it.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I agree, I agree, And I also think there's magic
in not striving for perfection, you know, and I in
radio also, and radio is different. Not to make it
about radio, but you know, when you're on the air,
people want to listen and they want to feel that
they can connect to that person, and they want to
feel that they're a friend and they're normal and they
have things in common. If you're out there and you're
performing this piece of perfection and you're trying to think
of every word, it's never going to resonate because that's
(10:28):
not how you talk. When I heard you and your
mate on the phone earlier and it gets brought up again,
what was your mate's name on the phone again? The
way you and Timbo talk, you know, you want to
hear radio and podcasting and the same for all entertainment
that is in the same way that you and Timbo
would talk.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's just naturally easy, real conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like that pursuit of
perfection as well, is only you doing it. Yeah, it's funny,
like your listeners aren't sitting there going hey be perfectly articulate.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I know, I know, but it's weird because you get
busses that you have all these chicken shit ideas and
tips and they got talked like this and you know
you should slow down in the reality you hired to be.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You, just be you.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
People love authenticity, they do, they really do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I got stuck in this one thing I remember, and
I wasn't prepared for it. It was at kiss Yeah,
and I think something happened to Kyl and Jacko and
I filled in or something. Oh no, no, no, they
did this thing where they locked me in the room
and I had to just take over. I was so
bad on air on my own And who was it?
It was a politician that called in. It was like,
(11:32):
not Peter Dunton, it was easy Tony Abbott or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, this is back then.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I did.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
I didn't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I was just like, Hi, how are you going? Like?
And all I could think of was don't ask about
speedos or I think it's Tony Abbott like but that you.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Know, you don't ask about this, that's about that your job.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
One of my point is it's so hard your job.
Oh please, so hard? People think radio street forward, Yeah, okay, cool,
here's a microphone totally for an hour and have people
want to listen to you. You're right, people have already
switched off halfway through my sentence.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Let's keep them back in. Let's play new from Guy Sebastia,
No Reason to Stay. I love it, Guy, It's bloody, brilliant, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You're playing. No stop, Let's play it more. We've got
when we're back after this.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All right about Guy Sebastian is here in studio, just
played No Reason to Stay.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Guy, You're heading to Amsterdam? Is that true?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I am? Yeah, at the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
My last gig before COVID was in Amsterdam, was it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And what song blow up for you in Before I Go,
Before I Go, Before I Go?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah? Yeah, what do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Why?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know? There was a real cool let me tell
you why, because of you guys. Really yeah. I don't
know if you know this, but it was Kyle and
jack They've got huge fans over in the Netherlands with
there's a breakfast radio team, Yes, and they listened to
Kyle and Jackie and they had heard this song and
(13:03):
they were like, oh, I mean, Carl and jack you
are like it's a very cofeted success. That's like no one.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Has that that revered in different countries.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It's incredible, like like hats off to them.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And this was like this, they're the number one in
Amsterdam in the Netherlands and they listened to Kyl and Jake.
They heard my song on there and they were like, oh,
let's give this a spin and they broke that song
for me. Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, So you're going back? You doing a festival?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is it right? There's a festival. It's like a Eurovision
head grove. I don't know how to say.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It there that sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He grow there festival have you been to?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yes, you've been?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, a few.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Tea Do you walk through the streets? You get the
little hash brownie?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh you have?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You've got to go to a Bulldog cafe?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And yes, I stay to the Bulldog Cafe. And I
don't know where to stay there. There's one that's a hotel.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's like being in a Dutch oven. They're just just
permeate up stairs, continuously high.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And these Greek backpack of girls. I didn't realize they
were swindling me.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So I was there traveling on my own and I
booked a solo room because you can get you can bunk, right,
it's a hostel, so you can bunk with other people
from around the world, or you get.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Your own room. So I got my own room.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anyway, I couldn't work out why these Greek girls were
like all over me.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm like, you're barking up the wrong tree. No amount
of hash is going.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
To be some kind of weed that is there a
turning wheed.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know, I try it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'd given a co and they were pushing on my girls.
It's not going to happen if you've got any brothers.
I'm interested. But then about halfway through the night it
dropped and she was like, please, we want to use
your room to sleep with boys. Our room is that
aroom is bunk beds, but you said private the room?
Please can we sleep with me? They wanted to use
my private room to sleep with the boys they met,
(14:54):
and I let them.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Did you want?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I let them?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Okay? Well, I was like, where did you go that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What do I get at?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You go to the bunk room?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah? No, I I just I was fine free. Yeah,
I just took my passport out and my cash. I'm like, well,
I'm going to steal my feather.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Button, my third party wingman. Yeah, I am I at pimp,
not even a friend like Wingman's usually a friend. You
were just like there, but I felt so heartbroken.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I'm like, they want to be my friend, they love me,
like can we sleep in your room? Like wow, that's
my app stamics.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You had a reason to go. That was your reason
to go. There was no reason to stay.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
No, God, are you good? Bringing no reason to say guys, they.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Liked it like that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
When they finished, they heard the choir.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh they did well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
They heard it before they finished.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yea before I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Now I might try quickly. What happened with a voice
before we let you go? You just you'd run its course?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Actually nothing, If I'm being honest, it was like, and
I said this, it's funny when you have a meeting
about like your gut. Like I was like trying to explain,
I was really nervous. I actually I've rang jewels on
the way in because I didn't. I didn't think about it. Heats.
If I'm being honest, I just was reacting to what
(16:23):
my gut was saying. And my gut was saying, do
you think next year is going to be different to
the last six where you've had no time for anything
else except for juggling a schedule where it's like, all right,
you're filming from five am to blah blah blah. And
then if you release something, you've got to work. If
(16:45):
you write something, you've got to finish that within this
allocated time, and everything's so scheduled. I have no time.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
And my priority, to be honest, is my art and
my family.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like both of those things are the things that I
might big priorities, So I'm not going to trade in
I guess, you.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Know, being like an absent dad that is always busy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like I had a thing for you guys last week,
and Jules was she was watching this author, this author
was speaking somewhere, and I had the boys, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I've got a cover to do in
the morning for kids. I need to make a track.
And I could have just gone into the studio and
let the boys, Like what am I going to let
(17:32):
them watch stuff and be on their iPad or something. Yeah,
it's dad night. Yeah, like it's not every day, Like
we're just left alone, me and the boys. So I
did that, and then at ten o'clock when they finally
went to bed, like I went in the studio, I
didn't come out till four in the morning. But but
I know that I need to put in those hours.
But that's what I end up doing. And then I
(17:54):
woke up and I like felt like absolutely rattus. And
so I think for so long, I've just been trying
to pretend like I've got time to do all of
this stuff and my touring and my album takes a
back seat to the point where I've taken over four
years to make this album. Wow, so I shouldn't because
I write quickly like it's just haven't had time. And
(18:15):
so that's literally I was just saying to them. I
was like, they're like, what is Is there anything we
can I was like, no, that they would assume there's
something wrong with the gig. It's so positive, Like it's
such a great gig for me.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I said to them, I find this gig really easy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like I love talking and I love like mentoring, and
I love music.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
It's a perfect gig for me.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I just know that in my guart, my gut's been
telling me nothing's going to change next year. All of
those comments you read about hey, when are you coming
back to the Netherlands when you're coming back to Philippines,
like like, I've got music that is getting slammed in
places around the world and I don't even go there.
And the fans of writing when they see a live
(18:57):
performance on something, going, oh, are you going to come
back to Sweden? And there might be thirty people at
this gig? Like who knows, there might be fifty, There'll
be more maybe but maybe not right, there might be
Like my last gig I sold out in Amsterdam that
was in twenty eighteen, just before COVID twenty nineteen, Sorry,
twenty nineteen, that's five years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And I think I just got to this point.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Where I need to prioritize, like being uncomfortable again, sitting
in that red chairs, comfy and a totally yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Well, remember where we met you. How uncomfortable were you
when you were doing an idol when you were a kid? Right,
and look where it's skyrocketed you. I feel the same,
like I think the best comes from when we are
pushed outside of our comfort zone because we run on autopilot,
you know, like when you do something I've done, this
show I've done, I mean in radio nine years next year,
you can you get to a point where it kind
of just falls out of here, right.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, And you're comfortable. And what comfort does when you're
when your schedule's four, It doesn't leave room for you
to have surprises, no life, And I think I just
need a few surprises to go. Oh. I didn't think
i'd spend two months in Nashville writing with so and
so and so and so and.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Like a night in the Bulldog Cafe in Amsterdam.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Being ripped off by two horny Greeks.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Now that sounds like a fun time, all right, I
gotta let you go. We talked for far too long
every time, but I love having you in. No reason
to stay guy Sebastian available now? Is the album next year?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, I've got sort of a bit of a surprise
announcement with that. I was going to release something this year,
but I've held it off only for a few months.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
But the payoff will be a lot more songs.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, good, good, more guys Sebastian on the way. Thank
you for coming, buddy, We love it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Pleasure
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