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November 12, 2025 15 mins

Matt chats about a concept called the Midlife Squeeze. Would you consider cloning your dog? and Britt had a mishap on her (wholesome) adult sleepover. 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
Happy hump Day or you lovely people. Funny Jay. You've
got a bit of something in your beard there.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I don't know. I think it's some croissanto.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is it chicken? What have we got here? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Just lick it and I'll be going, Oh there, you
just got it out.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You did.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I just watched you eat that whole thing.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey, thank you so much for waiting right up until
the moment we're on air, for pointing that out.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I actually didn't notice until right there.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sure, Britney, Sure, Hey, I'm a bit stressed at the moment, Britt.
It stressed out. Okay about the not that that's just
added to the stress, but there was existing stress I
was already dealing with. And it's because Marley's just started
to not eat her lunch. She's been a great lunch
eater up until now.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Isn't she going to a great spirit? I thought that
made a bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't know what's going on, but there's one teacher
in particular who make sure he doesn't let the kids
play unless they've eaten their lunch, which I think is great.
But the other day he asked Marley, said, have you
eaten your lunch? And she goes, yeah, yeah, it was great.
It's delicious, really good sandwich. Thank you, and he goes
show me.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh, he called her out.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
She hadn't touched it. Didn't touch my jam sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Gym sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
She loves it.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
One of the worst school.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm not here to be shamed about my lunch making
skills that she opted for the jam sandwich, didn't eat it,
lied to the teacher, then got a time out for
li is it.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, So have you asked why she's not eating a lunch?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, she's just like I just didn't want to eat it,
as simple as that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well, there's got to be something said for that too.
It's intuitive eating.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, But at the same time, dude, you gotta eat
something you can't You can't.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Go down and force beat.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Them well then I think you can, can you? I'm
all for it? But yes, so now this is the
end of my beautiful run of Marley being so well behaved.
This is now she's in a bad girl error.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, she's getting the sin bin.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Can I reveal to you something very personal, Brittany?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yes, also as long as you know it's me and
the rest of the nation.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, of course, I when I ask you, it includes
everyone listening. But I am thirty eight years old.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Would you believe I am shook to my call that
you are simply thirty eight?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I feel like I'm twenty a weeks forty. I'm I'm
getting a lot of grays.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I think you look wonderful. What's the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I've always been someone really fortunate who doesn't have to
deal with a lot of stress and anxiety in my life.
I felt like I've been through many stressful situations, but
it's been something that hasn't like rattled me to my core, like.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Water for ducks back.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Probably ause Laura deals with most of it.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Excuse why, because I don't think Laura would say the same.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I don't think Laura would say that she isn't stressed.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that not how it works? Do you think that
she takes more the stress? It's weird you don't.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Feel stressed right up until now you're looking at me
with daggers.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well I just thought you were insinuating that I don't
do anything.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
No, but I just think she takes a lot of
the stress. Look, he's still.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Dagger with me. Wow. Sorry you said wow, I'm here
opening up to Brittany.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I was just trying to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I've never met anyone that says they don't feel Just listen.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oka, Brittany. I think now that I'm thirty eight, this
would have to be, without question, the most stressful period
of my life. I think every day is more of
a struggle now than it has ever been.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
But do you think that is around the kids?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Absolutely? I think nothing can prepare you for being in
the trenches with multiple children. And the transition from two
to three kids wasn't anywhere near as significant as a
jump from one to two, but it's definitely added a
layer of complexity to the whole dynamic and situation between
juggling work and social life and everything else.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Also, because you were.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Just getting it back together a little bit like you
had a six and five year old or five and
four year old, and so your life was back manageable.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It definitely, it's and even just in the evenings as well,
just once the kids go to bed. We used to
get that little you know, get your nights back, you'd
have your own dinner, law and myself, we could you know, relax,
connect And that's taken away, which is fine. But I
was thinking about now compared to when I was younger, man,
there has never been kids as well. But also I

(04:57):
think career wise, I think it's a really big transition
when you get into your late thirties that you're then
you're letting go of your youth and all the social
elements that came with it. I think your social circle
becomes so much smaller. And I think the jump from
when you're in your like I guess when you have kids,
when they start school, all of a sudden, there's so

(05:17):
much more of a priority in your life.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well that's all you think about all of a sudden,
Isn't it like your life doesn't matter because everything revolves
around them? But I think I would say for me,
and maybe's because I don't have kids, but you said,
like when you hit thirty, it starts to change and.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
You realize your youth sober.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I didn't get that at thirty. I'm thirty eight, we're
the same age. I only really felt it in the
last like twelve months really recently for me. And what
was the trigger just a realization I'm not knowing what
six seventy is.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I was like, wow, I've been aged out. I don't
know if there was a real trigger, do you know
what It was.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Probably my fertility doctor being like, you're almost on the
other side, like I feel too young to have kids
right in my brain. But he's like, you've got to
get that out of you got out of your head
because you're you're on the other end of that scale.
And there was that moment where I was like, wow,
it's like it doesn't really matter how you feel. Time
is going past, Like we can't stop it, we can't
slow it down.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, And I think this period right now, and I'm
sure other parents feel the same. But when you're juggling work,
a mortgage, the kids, trying to have some kind of
a social life, and as well trying to keep it
spark alive with your partner and make sure that's not
being deprioritized at all. Oh man, there are so many
plates struggle right now, and they're calling it as a term.

(06:36):
It's called the midlife squeeze apparently. So if anyone out
there is also struggling right now, just know that you're
not the only one going through a midlife squeeze. I
am as well.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Why are they calling it a squeeze?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Is crisis? Too aggressive? Midlife crisis?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think the squeeze is just I would for me,
I interpret that as the pressure, the midlife pressure of
everything right now. You're trying to have everything firing in
your life at once, and do I dare say? I'm
looking forward to my fifties.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Are you? But that's because the kids will be at
like high school.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
When I can just relax again. Britney, you know my problem.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
By the time I'm in my fifties, my kid'll be like.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Three at this Ray good luck.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
You're on your.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Own, Mattie J.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I am crazy dog obsessed, you know that, Like my
dog Delilah is my entire world.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
How many dogs have you had in your lifetime?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I've never not had a dog.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
So our families have dogs since we were born.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Can you run me through very very quickly, just the
history of dogs for Britney. What did it start with?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
We had Diesel, Yeah, Diesel. Diesel was a wine Marana
what Winemarana? Yeah, they're great dogs a wine Marana. Yeah. Yeah,
I just said yes because I can't be I'm like, yeah,
the show is he whye Marana.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
They're quite a big dog, very lean, very shiny coat, beautiful,
beautiful nature. So yeah, we had Diesel. Then we had Gizmo.
Gizmo was a little shit who named Gizmo?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I think it was me.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Gizmos around for a while, and then we had Honey.
Honey was around for a while. Then we had Daisy
and Ivy. They were little, they were little dogs. Daisy
and Ivy are Schnauzers and like Bitzer's from rescue dogs.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Then we had Nala and Nala is a Bitzer.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Good. I thought I had a lot of dogs.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
No that I had mea Border Collie.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It keeps going, yeah more, this is the Noah's Ark
of dogs.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah. When I say I had dogs, I was, yeah,
you've got a problem.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I used to read dog books as a hobby when
I was a kid, Like I had a dog book
and it had every breed of dog, and it had
like how.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Big they grow Pokemon for you, like I got to
catch them more.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, which is why I find this topic so interesting.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I want to get your take on it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
There's this rise in celebrities, Tom Brady being the most recent,
he's the big NFL player in America that are.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Cloning their dogs.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
So cloning is one of those things that I didn't
know people were actually doing it, you know, you just
hear about it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
What was Dolly the Sheep?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Dolly the Sheep nineteen ninety six?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Was that was nineteen ninety six? Yeah, I think she
survived for about five minutes or how did that? Wasn't
good for Dolly?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Dolly the Sheep lived for six and a half years.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Six and a half good years, and we're not sure.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Typical sheep lives through about ten to twelve years.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's not bad. That's not bad. And I'm assuming that
come a long way. It's like TV's back in the
nineties were pretty bad and now look now I'm assuming
cloning is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well yeah, apparently, so, I didn't know so many people,
like so many celebrities already had cloned dogs. So Tom
Brady's dog, Juny, is a clone of his past family
dog that died in twenty twenty three, Paris Hilton. She
cloned her dog in twenty twenty three Barber streisand has
cloned her dog twice, so she really doesn't want to
let that go.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
That dog has lived like many lifetimes.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I just find it really weird. I think the beautiful
thing about owning a pet is you know you have
the personality. It changes, it varies. To me, it feels
a bit strange to try and replicate it exactly. It
would be strange if Buster left and you're like, ah,
it's fine, I'll bring it back. Yeah, I'll bring it back.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm sort of sort of like it because the interesting
thing is it's not just the way they look it.
Actually a lot of their personality traits come through as well.
I just think, because my dog Delilah is almost perfect,
I just put in more training. So if I could
bring her back, but I'd just train her differently because
she definitely skips some classes and I.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Clone her but also just slightly improve her just a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, but it's fifty thousand dollars apparently, I think.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Look, I think morally it is wrong. Why I don't agree, Well,
apparently fifty nine percent of people also agree with them.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Why is it morally wrong? Why is it different like
IVF or something? Making a baby in.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
A little saucepan, No, I think, not a sorcepan A
Pittridish Well said.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I just think when it comes to pets, I just
think we should enjoy what limited time we have with
those pets, and when they're gone, we can save her.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, nah, I want mine to live forever.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, do you think we should clone humans? There you go, Bob,
that's a real question.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Oh, that's a hard question.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Probably not because that would have too much of an
impact on the economy. Really, like, you can't just have
you can't just speak triply. Well, that means no one
ever dies because when they die.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
They just replaced. The people are still being born.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Forgetting deep, sorry you asked the questions for getting deep.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Would you clone humans?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, absolutely not cloning. I think ban it, ban it
along with AI. Let's get back to the nineties.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Dolly Maddie j.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I was telling you yesterday about I mean this new
era of like the wholesome platonic adult sleepover.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Would you say you were reliving your youth. Is that
it are we going back to fifteen year old brick.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
There's just something nice about it. There's just something nice
that you can clean fun, good clean fun. You can
hang out with your friends, but you don't have to
go home. But what it was is it was like,
my it depends on the house I guess that you're
going to or the friend. Like my friend is a
real clean freak.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
You wouldn't have the same experience if you were going
somewhere like that. You would want to get out of,
you know. But she has like the best bedding. She
makes everything amazing. She's got the best coffee Egyptian cotton.
Is that she has all these like what they're like comfidence,
you know, the ones that make it squishy and soft,
and the duna that's like she's big into sleep, so
she's got all the top sleep stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
She talked me to bed. She had a magnesium spray,
you know you spray.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Hang on, hang on, let's just back it up just
a second. She does what in bed to you?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Sorry, well, I say, she tucked me into bed. She
she just said good night. She didn't Actually is this.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Do you have one of those weird kinks where people
turn into a baby. She put my nappy on me,
she fed me, burn me, put me down reading a
bedtime story, and then I was off, is that what
you're doing?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yes, you've got me.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
This has meant to be good, clean, fun.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You got me.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No when I say talk to me and it's like
you know when they come in and like do you
need anything, Like i'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I've never experienced that my life with a maid. I'd
be lucky if I get a blanket.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Okay, so your friends don't come tuck you with and
tickle your feet. You're sure the chicken spray them.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So it's nice though.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I was so.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
She even got her charges, like I've plugged a charger
in for you. There's a cordless. It was just I
felt like I was at a hotel.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
And then I wake up in the morning.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
And she had the best coffee beans and a fresh
coffee mean for me, she got the milk that I made.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I just felt like, are you about to move in?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm afraid I'm moving in.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yes, everything was almost perfect, And I was making the
joke about saying to her like, oh, I'm going to
leave you the best Google review.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
For you this hotel because it was amazing. Then I
get into the.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Shower, and I love this about being at other people's houses.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
I love using all the products.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now I don't know if you're allowed to do that,
but it's interesting to see what they use.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Is like body wash.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
God, we've just got like twelve empty conditions like growing
mold in the corner of the shower that they're all
horror than. I should have thrown them out.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I would never go to your house.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
It is like a conditioning shampoo graveyard for bottles.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Okay, well that's your job when you get home, it's
you saw it out.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
But she had the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
She had everything and any yes, that's where this is going.
So as in a shower and she had this window
sill of stuff and it was her Partner's a doctor.
He's got very fancy, tasty. He liked all this really
high end, fancy stuff. Because I think, you know you're
doing something right if you've got ASoP right.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
So I was like going through all the products having
the time of my life.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Face wash, hair washed, masks, skincare, itxfoliance, you name it. Anyway,
Then I got to the body wash, and I was like, oh,
it's good. It's ASoP black container ASoP body wash. It's
always amazing. So I do some pumps, start to wash
my body, get on thum slags, whole thing, space neck, and.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I was like, just smells unusual. And I was like,
I've never smelt this before.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So I just just out of eyesight, I swivel the
ASoP body wash around because all I could see was ASoP.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I couldn't see the other side of it from the
angle that I was.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Anything as is good though, right.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, it was dog shampoo ASoP dog shampoo. And now
I washed my whole body, my face and everything with
like an anti fleet tick thing.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I who knows when you get fleas.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Now you're safe, but sorry, I am tick free.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Smell good. Note is a bit strange.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Bernie Bernie mint. I don't know. It was something that
like peppermints.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think that is totally fine.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Sorry, you can't mix up.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
You cannot sporadically for your hotel guests mix up your
dog shampoo with your body wash.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're right, it's not as bad as what I once did,
though in a sharehouse. I hadn't spent a lot of
time living with other women. So I was like looking
for something to wash my face with. And I didn't
know the name of this product at the time, but
it was called fem Fresh, Yes, and that is for
any men listening who are not familiar. It is washer

(15:52):
for your intimate parts if you're a female. And I
was just like this things great.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
But also you know you're doing well in life if
you have a dog. For the dog, let's get out
of here.
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