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November 10, 2025 17 mins

Britt caught up with Kim Kardashian to chat about the new show All's Fair. Taylor Swift MAY have chosen her bridal party and Matt went to his daughter's first ever dance concert over the weekend. 

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Happy Monday afternoon, everyone. I hope you had a brilliant weekend.
Maddie j How good is TV right now? We were
just talking about it.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
It was a smallgasboard that was fit for a king.
Last night, Brittany, every channel there was something to watch.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
There was Big.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Brother referring to yourself as a king.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The general population we are kings together. But yes, I'm
at the top of the food chain.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But it was great. Big Brother was back on. Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I loved it. It was very nostalgic. And then I
would flick the channel nine. What's that Bears in the
hot tub macing on with Janet lots of tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, so anyone that doesn't know Bear is the Golden Bachelor?
Were they macking on? I didn't see it, Matt Was
it hot?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
And heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, I always like to think that you don't kiss
with tongue because it doesn't come across too well on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
It doesn't, and they always honeing on it.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
It was they were playing with each other's tonsils and
we're down to the top four, so they're getting it's.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Getting serious, and it was it?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Jen? Did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think it was Janet? Janet? I think who have you?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Have you swayed with? Who you think is going to win? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Because she left? She left last night.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Is Sonny still there?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
She's doing well because Sonny was my pick and she
said she loves him. No, she didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Sonny too eager?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
You kind of play it cool, you know what, I'm
gonna call it. She's getting her heart broken at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know what, if she hadn't dropped the elbomb, she
would have been a front runner. But you can't drop it.
Four people out, No too soon? One out?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Max, just relax. You got plenty left.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
But Big Brothers just starting and so far. I do
like the format.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Have they gone for like semi famous people? Are they
your everyday people? What are they doing?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's a real mix.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's a really diverse cast and they've got there's a
guy called Bruce. I saw Bruce really misogynistic. He's going
to get in so many fights.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
But do you know what I thought? I saw a
statement that he made about how women should just be
at home raising the kids, and I thought, mate, don't
you know what you're doing to yourself? You are going
to be canceled.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
But they've got someone called Holly and she dated a
guy called Gavin Rubinstein, big real estate.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Mogul and Sydney. She's got one hundred thousand followers, so
it's a real It's a mixture. It's a mixture. Hey,
Maddy Ja, Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Brittany, it is definitely the biggest flex of my career
to date. One working with you, of course, but two
after you comes Kim kardashi In.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Right, come on, there's no need to be patronizing, britt
it's a good get.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's a big get. It's a big get being with
Kim Kardashian before in a lyft, I didn't get to interviewer.
But I've been in the same lift.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
As You've got to share her air.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, I've read her oxygen.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
When was that?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
So we technically we dated? You're basically together. Yeah, when
was that?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Look, it was a long time ago. La at the
MTV Awards. I want to say twelve years ago.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I feel like if Kim Kardashian was at the MTV Awards,
she wasn't bigger.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Don't poo poo on my story just because you got
to interviewer.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was in a lift, Brittany, a lift with her.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, that is cool.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You got the interview, so when you got for me,
it's better be good.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it was really cool. So there's a new show
out called All's Fair. If you guys haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yet, it is Ryan is getting Grilled.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's getting grilled. It's zero brotten tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Have you watched it? Yes, I have watched it. Is
it good?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I do you know what?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Kim was not listening to be honest, No, it's not Kim.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
What I couldn't get around was I think the script,
the way it was written, I thought.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
She was not the worst actor.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
You don't go in with high hopes because it's Kim Kardashian,
but it also has Glenn Close in it, absolute acting icon,
Naomi Watts, Niecy Nash Bets, Sarah Paulson, like it has
that's so many amazing actresses in it, so I think
you thought they would all carry the show, but it
has been slammed. But Disney did ask me to go
and sit down with these lovely women and interview them.

(04:29):
And it was a really surreal moment to be sitting
opposite the likes of Glenn Close and Kim Kardashian. So
one of the questions I was really really dying to
ask them was red flag.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I love this question.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Have a listen, Kim Kardashian, Glenn Close, niss Nash Bets.
I cannot wait to see the rest of the show. Kim,
we see really early on that your character Allura is
with an absolute flog in real life.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
What is a red flag.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
For you in a relationship? What isn't these days?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I was about to say, if they're breathing, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
If they're breathing, you don't want it color blind because
I see pink an orange, I don't see red, but
I need to see red. But I would say the
biggest red flag is just when someone is really not
kind and rude to staff and waiters and everyone around.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't like that personality trait. Red fag for me
is if all they want to know is about your work,
your I mean, you're like like Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Red flag for me is anybody who I feel like
needs me to shrink or be small so that they
feel good first kind of what I'm not having.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, I think that's pretty fair. First of all,
everything these days is a red flag. So I feel
for Kim, and I think in Kim's life everything would
be right, Like you wouldn't trust anyone, You wouldn't think
anyone had the right intention.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is she dating right now? She's not.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
She's not, She's not dating. What's your red flag?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Well, I was going to say Kim and I we
have the same red flag. It's it's people who are
rude to white stuff. But I would say my other
red flag is people who are afraid to wear sunscreen?
Is a red flag?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, like zinc, like plow it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
On, just any type of sunscreen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think Kim had a really generic answer, to be honest,
I was hoping for some more specifics, but I think
the biggest one is the same. Anyone that's rude to
other people, doesn't matter who you are, what you do.
I think a really big red flag. When I was
dating was people that don't want to share their food
For me, that is like, what's wrong with you? You're
a psychopath. You know you should be wanting to taste
my food and you should be wanting me to taste

(06:40):
your food. Like if we sat down on a date
and I was like, hey, should we get a few
things and share them? And they said no, I want
my own meal, I'm out of there.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I feel like you're the person who's going to finish
a meal. But okay, wow, okay. See I've always been
in relationships where like Laura will always save me a
couple of bites because she gets full really easily.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh that must be nice. I'm like, you done yet, Matt.
I know you have been keeping a very close eye
on Taylor Swift and her bridal party.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Can I just admit for a second that I had
been a Taylor Swift hater for a number of years
and only recently the last twelve months. I am converted.
It was my daughter Marley May.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
She's obsessed and every daycare drop off and pick up
we would listen to her songs and I was like,
do you know what, she's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
She's very cool.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Geez, And I want to apologize to Taylor for not
endorsing her music to the level that I am now.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
So when you say you're now a fan, is that
because you're actually enjoying her her music orre you a
fan of her? And like what she's created in her
business savviness.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
We even have a little kid's book which is the
Life of Taylor Swift how she started. And I think
it's amazing what she's done. I think her live concerts
are phenomenal. Everything about her is just epic.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And also like her relationship now with a footballer, I'm
always do you know who trums Kelsey? Yeah? Yeah, comfort
come on.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well she stopped there and broke the internet a couple
of months ago when she got engaged. But now everyone
is speculating that she's just chosen her bridesmaids. Now the
reason that they're speculating.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, what do we got? How do they know this? Well?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Taylor is I don't know how much you know, but
she's known for Easter egging, Like she drops all these
hints in all her music, in all her pr and
everything that she does. So now everyone's reads so much
into her life that she can't fart without people thinking
it's any What does it mean exactly?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So? Do we know do we know Grace? Produce a Grace? Sorry?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Can I put on the spot? Do we know her
wedding date? Has that been set?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
No, we don't know any of those details yet, but
we do know a maybe venue?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Do we Yeah? Did you not know that? Wow?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Get up to speak, Grace. They actually asked somebody apparently
allegedly rumor somebody was already booked at the place, the
venue on the date that they wanted, and they tried
to get them to swap it. I'm sorry, If taylor'swirst
wants my venue, she can have it.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean you'd be like, sure, give us an invite
or a million bucks and you can have my date
and a million bucks and an invite.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Sure with a million bucks. So this is where the
Eastregs have come from. All she's done is every weekend,
for the last three weekends, she has gone to dinner
with a friend. But the friends are all people that
are pretty close to her and could be so people
are thinking that she's taking them to dinner and asking
them to be her bride'smaids.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Okay, well I think that Sabrina Carpenter will definitely.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Be one of her bride's maids.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I don't know, because she's too new. I think Taylor
will go for like those real long term friendships. Sabrina
only came in a couple of you in the last
like two she's supported her on her tour.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
They're they're tight. No, and they just had dinner together. Sorry,
I'm getting very worked up, Grace. What do you think? No,
I think she's too new. She's too new.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Then there was Gigi who did so she's one of
the he did sisters, Bella and Gigi. They're supermodels, very tight.
She's in Bad Blood in twenty fourteen. Yes, yeah, so
then so twenty fourteen that's more of a long term friendship.
So I think that she'll make the cart. Then the
next weekend she was seeing with one of her close friends,
ash avignon Is So she's not famous, which is why

(10:12):
I think that it will be her as well. So
she's just a normal person. I think she's an interior
designer or an architect and just someone that she's been
friends with for a long time.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Who do you reckon is going to be the maid
of honor?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Do you know what. I think Selena Gomez will be
in there, but I don't know if Matt does not care.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm really getting no, I love it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So at Selena's wedding recently to Benny Blanco, Taylor was
an integral part of it, but I don't think she
was in the bridal party. So she did a speech,
she got ready with her she was really in it,
but I don't think she was a bridal party. So
I'm wondering if that will be reciprocated and Selena will
be there and seeing and perform, and.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I think she'll be in charge of the WhatsApp chat
being like, hey, guys, transfer me the three hundred bucks
for the gift.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I think Selena as a billionaire and Taylor as a billionaire,
will be paying for it.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
How does that work? Like, does Taylor just pay for
it all?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Taylor for everything?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
You think?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So one hundred.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Peru, She's like, hey, we opted for the bottomless brunch
that was one hundred.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And fifty each.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, I think she's worth like two billion dollars. I
think she's covering the feather Chine Carbin, I reckon she's fair,
but I think that Taylor might be one of the
only celebrities that is somehow going to pull off a
wedding that no paparazzi get into that is not leaked.
I think if anyone can do it, it's Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Impossible because it even got leaked.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Selena's even got leaked. Absolutely possible because remember how sometimes
she used to leave in a suitcase. Do you know
her story about the suitcases? She traveled around in suitcases
so no one on so no one would know when
she was like leaving hotels and stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
She's like six foot tall. How did you do that?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Her security would would come out in a suit with
a suitcase and no one had ever see Taylor, And
everyone is convinced that Taylor was being transported around in
a suitcase.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
What a life she lives in a suitcase?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, brittany one of my children, they now have a
taste for the main stage or thanks to this song?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
What a banger? And what do you mean by this? Today?
The next like DJ Fisher or What's Happen?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I wish Marley produced this song.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
This was the song that she did her dance recital to,
which was just last.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Week, her very first dance recidal.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Did you ever do dance growing up? Yeah, I was great.
Would you do what was yours?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I did it all. I did tap and ballet and jazz.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's why you were so good on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh thank you, Butraly did it when I was like five.
Come on, but do you know what I love the most?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What's that jazz?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Ide?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Start? Rush into this one?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I couldn't move my feet quick enough for tap.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, I never did dance.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
The dance world is very new to me, and it
was only because Marley's just been obsessed with doing little
concerts at home and she always wants to do this dance.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
She's actually like, really really good.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I know you're her dad.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I know I'm one of those parents who's going to
be biased towards their own child. But she actually has
really good rhythm, which is weird for me to say,
as someone who has no rhythm at all.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know where she gets it from. Not me, definitely.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
We did see you on Dancing with the Start.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, it wasn't great, was it. It wasn't the worst.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Laura was actually Laura's the better dancer. Laura was good
in the family, but Marley was like, I really want
to do it, dad, So I signed her up. I
didn't really know what I was getting her into. I
actually just thought it was like a Thursday afternoon class.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
What is it. Well, they've been working towards all year,
this big dance recital, and it's a big deal. It's
a full production. Dude.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
We were at like a proper theater, were you Yeah?
And I was thinking to myself, come on, the kids five,
she doesn't need this. We could just be in like
the school.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Hall, right. And also it was really really stressful.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Myself and another dad, we were the only two dads
who were like managing this. But some days on a Thursday,
you've got to bring the uniform that they're going to
do the performance. In other days bring their their like jazz,
and it was changing every week. We had to be
on our toes constantly because if you got it wrong,
we got reprimand by the teacher.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like it was.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
It's very serious mass, it's very.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Very like Obviously, Laura's just given birth to a child,
so she was completely checked out of the admin of
the dance, so I was in charge and then as well,
I guess leading up to the big concert, which was
on the weekend I got really nervous.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I was thinking, oh my god, my little girl. It's
because you don't want it.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
When so many people and there's a stage as a production,
you don't want them to mess up or feel embarrassed
for whatever reason, like you just want them to nail it.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And I thought that we were going to go to
this concert and I would watch Marley on stage and
then I would leave. But then I realized that I
had to sit through twenty two different performances.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, I mean, that song sounds quite erratic. What was
the dance like? It sounds like Brazilian?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
It was really really good, and I can't tell you
how amazing Marley was. But before I tell you about
her performance, I lost it at the MC. I yelled out,
it's from the audience, he said, he goes, welcome to
this theater. It's going to be amazing, and he goes,
I just want to give a big shout out to
all the mums out there who got up early this

(15:18):
morning to do a slick high ponytail.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I said, what about the dance.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's fair, right, I mean I got up very early
and I think I did a very good job.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Did you have to do this slick typhony.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Marley was like, you're starting to draw blood brushing my
hair so much and I was like, quiet, use half
a ten of their spread. But she looked amazing. I
want to say sorry to the MC for yelling out
at him.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Did they still wear red lipstick as kids?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I said yes to lipstick and I said no to mascara.
My line was why was the laugh? Why was that
the lie? I just don't think.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
The teacher was like, it's good for stage, you know,
the bitter mescaa is going to make the eyes pop
with the lights, and I.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Was like, just doesn't need it.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, but she's five. I don't think any parent is
going to be going that was good routine. Eyes weren't popping,
there were they?

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Grace and I grew up in the dance world and
we were a lot of makeup from a young age.
Fish Nets, buns.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Is the masca? Should I be allowing it?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think it's fine for stage, But I'm a dancer,
so that's fine.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
She dances, but I was. I was in tears.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was so proud she absolutely nailed every single step
and then meeting her afterwards, annoyingly, I didn't know we'd
do this. I don't know if you guys as dances
growing up, did you ever get given flowers by your
parents after a performance?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I don't think I even got on dance.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, all these parents were there.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Because you're a dancer.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
You get it, you get it, you get it. But
she said this was the best day of my life.
Oh that's so, I'm now officially a dance dad. I
love that.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
But I want to see a video.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Do we have anything, Well, I'll have to buy You
cannot film anything because of safety reasons for the kids.
But the DVD is going to be available ninety nine
point nine ninety five. I'm like, oh my gosh, so expensive.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
He didn't buy it.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I didn't buy it.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
But just to reminisce once again, to bring us out,
put your hands together for the conga
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