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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
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This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
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and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hey everyone, it's Cooper here. I am Georgia's brother. If
you didn't know, we've got a few businesses together. I'm
the co director of Rus and Conger as well. You
might have heard of me before. I am jumping on
and I'm going to be doing a solo episode, so
I hope you enjoy. First of all, I want to
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tell a story and then we're gonna diagnose what kind
of happened. Because I got told from my good friend
and coach pretty much that it was a crossroads for
my two little boys, Body and Billy, and it was
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a bit of a divide for them for their childhood.
And he said that you'd done a really good job
and it was very big, and I thought it was
really cool when I was doing it, but I didn't
think it was that big, but I thought maybe we
could all learn from it. Let's dive in the story
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is the other weekend, I was just at home with
the boys and Body, my eldest. He was a bit moody.
He was pretty moody, a bit snappy. He just wasn't
being his best self, and he was affecting the people
around him, and more than others, he was affecting his
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brother Billy. They've got a pretty big gap between each other.
Body's nine and Billy is three, and it can be
really difficult for Body because he's so much younger. And
it was just not being his best version of hisself
from what I've seen, and it got to the point
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where it was a bit too much for me and
Ash and I went over and we were getting annoyed
as well, and we said to him, like boats, what's
going on? And then so he initially went in and
said that Billy's annoying him. He's not doing this. I
just don't want to play with him. He doesn't want
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to play with me. And I'm like, well, buddy, if
he doesn't want to play with you, it's there's a
reason why they're And he keeps on playing and doing
the same thing again. And then I'd come back to
him and I said, hey, like, what's going on, Like,
what's really going on? It's not Billy, because if it
was Billy, you'd be able to fix it. And I said,
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what's happened this week? Ash was there as well, and
she helped me guide the conversation as well. Yeah, we
both said, like, what's happened during the week, what's really
going on? And then he's like, well, at school, my
friends they play handble together and it's bought that they
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like doing at the moment. So a lot of their
friends or the certain group, a certain couple of guys
are saying to him that he is cheating and he's
not playing by the rules and his calls are really
wrong and it's really affecting body. And I said, all right,
that's that's fine. I do remember that back in the
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day as well. I used to handble and I said, well,
how do you feel, like, what's the feeling when they
do that to you? Because it can affect people or
it cannot affect people. And he said that he felt controlled.
I had to guide him a little bit on that
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because he didn't quite see felt controlled. Yeah, a bit
annoyed and a few other emotions. So I had to
guide him on that. And yeah, we got to controlled.
And I said, well, that's really good because you you
are now aware of it. And I referenced it back
to Billy and they said, what do you think you're
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doing to Billy? And he said, I'm trying controlling him
and I said yeah, and I said there's always two
ways this can go. And I have told him this
for a few times, and I said, it's either why
you're getting triggered and why you're getting these emotions come
up so strong is because one way, it's a memory
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that you're holding on to when he was a bit
younger that he felt really controlled, and he stored that
memory as a memory where he will always remember not
be controlled. That he doesn't like being controlled, so it's
a memory, or it's the other way that he doesn't
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like that in himself. Yeah, so if it's controlled, he
doesn't like that. He controls other Peo people and they
do coexist as well, these two options. So I said
that to him and he said, it's the memory. I said, well,
what memory when you were younger, and he said, ah,
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just he couldn't quite remember it, because it's it's hard
to talk to a nine year old about this stuff.
It's a lot easier to talk to an adult because
they can remember a lot more. Surprisingly. Yeah, so we're
going back and forth, and it was a bit difficult,
and I said, like being controlled, there's always two sides.
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So if he feels controlled, he is controlling that. And
so I was explaining what controlled is, the different sides
of it, the different ways to think about it. But
moral of the story is we always have control over
our actions. And I do hear this a lot from
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adults and friends and family that I don't have choice,
Like I don't don't have a choice. I have to
do this job. I always challenge them and say, well,
you're choosing to not have a choice, so you actually
do have a choice, and they're like no, they just
they can't can't bring it in the head, and that's
fine because for their survival they have to believe in.
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Then I don't press on it anymore. But in this
matter with body, he did see it. I kind of
let him go for a little bit, but it didn't
He's like, nah, there's I'm still not good. So I said,
I'm johnn to do some padding. And I have learned
how to do padding, and that's when you had on
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your meridians over your body and you're able to regulate
an emotion. It's in the best skill for me to learn.
That was after my NLP license, and it has helped
me with my family because I do it on friends
and family. So we did some padding and I guided
him through that, and after that I was able to
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talk to him about the control again on a higher level,
like he was an adult, and he took it in.
Five minutes after that we did that, and I was like,
how do you feel? And he's like, I don't really know.
I'm like, all right, that's all good. Let's just let
us see it and let's a chill out. And yeah,
five ten minutes went and his mood completely changed. He
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was playing with Billy. He was very patient, he was
very happy. He was dancing, we had some music gone
and completely changed and for the rest of the weekend
he was fine. And then he said to us that
he's going to go to school and he's going to
have a conversation with his friends, the ones he was
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getting these emotions from, and he said, I'm going to
talk to them and I'm going to let them know
that I don't like the way they treat me, and
that if they want to keep doing that, he's going
to go and find some different friends to play with.
So he come up and said that to us, and
we were very impressed and said, that's really good, buddy,
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like you, that's exactly what you should be doing. And
he did go to school, and I don't think he
didn't say anything, but what he did was he went
and played hamble with the friends he did like and
the other ones did want to play, and he said, no,
I'm just going to play with these friends. So he
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did it all by himself. After that, we can use
this as adults, like when people come and you get triggered,
or you'd say something to someone and they spark up
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and they go in vital flights and they start attacking
you because they goes has to protect them. That's what
it's there for, and it's good, but it's to see
that that adult has actually got some pain that they've
got to actually face. So when someone does say to you, oh, like,
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let's say this is your partner, like why did you
put the dishes there? Like why didn't you just do them?
And you snap And this happens a lot. If it's
a bit like oh shit, like what was that for?
I didn't do anything, that's when you can have this
conversation and just say just grab your other, your partner,
and just say, hey, like, what's going on? What's really happening?
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Because it's never what is in front of you, because
if it's in front of you wouldn't have those feelings
because you would just have the emotion that should be
attached to it. But when it's an emotion that's not
quite making sense in the scenario, it's always something deeper
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or it's just something you've had, you've had a bad week.
This is very common because we will have jobs where
it's painful and you have had a big day or
some sort of stress, like we've got so many stresses.
So when this does happen, I want to challenge you
all to take a step back, take a few deep breaths.
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And this will be hard because your ego will be
up and be like, hey, don't fucking talk to me
like that. That's not on, Like I'm going to go
instead of doing that, take a few deep breaths, say hey,
that wasn't very nice. So you're protecting your inner child,
You're protecting yourself, and then say what's going on? What's happening?
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Because I do remember when I was learning about this
stuff and I was going to see my coach and
Georgia didn't quite get into it just yet, and she
was very reactive. She's a very passionate woman, and back
in the old days with her, she used to make
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me cry a fair bit. Actually, and I know I
have said this on here. I was very emotional. Was
the fight or flight response. I'd just go quiet. I
wouldn't be able to respond and I wouldn't be able
to have a conversation with someone when I was triggered,
And it was a lot so with Georgia. She used
to trigger the shit out of me. We would always
come back to good terms after, and that's the beauty
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about being siblings. But when I learned this sort of thing,
I was able to get through conflicts and conversations with
her a lot easier, and our relationship got so much stronger.
So when I said, hey, like I don't want to
do this in the business, or let's do this, and
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she would react and be like, oh, you can't say
that to me, like you can't do that or go
against me, and it would be like it that was
not necessary, like that was uncalled for. I started to
do this, I said, hey, what's going on, Like this
isn't you. This behavior is not you. You're a beautiful person.
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What's happening? And then it would switch back on and
she would get upset because it'd be something that's really
triggering her, and then we were able to talk about
the real reason why that emotion was coming up in
not the right way, and by the end the end
of the conversation, Georgia felt a lot more safer with me.
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Were able to sort it out and then figure out
what was actually in front of us, and usually most
of the time she'd be like, yeah, it's all good now.
So having this knowledge and these little techniques to get
through these sorts of things, especially with your partner, for me,
my values, my kids as well. It's going to change
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the way they're brought up. I don't know about you,
but when I was growing up, I didn't get to
express my feelings. And if I got that knowledge to
be able to go through my emotions and feel them
the right way and not be controlled, I would have
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had such a different outcome. And to give that to
your kids, I think is the most powerful thing ever
and it's going to help them so much through their life. Yeah.
So I just wanted to bring that up and give
that awareness to everyone that it's not always what's in
front of you. It's not always these emotions that do
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control us. When someone is known for being very reactive,
very emotional, very snappy, it's just because they've got a
lot of and they can't they don't have this space
in their head to filter it. Knowing this, you'll be
able to have better relationships with people, and you'll be
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able to uncover what a true person is feeling, what
they're doing. And I have said this a number of times.
A great technique is always when someone is quiet in
the conversation, ask them what they're thinking. There's always awkward silences,
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and our response is to think, oh, what have I done?
I need to tell them a story about me, me me,
like im this awkward silence. I need to say something
or ask the question about the weather or something or
something like that, just straight away say what are you thinking?
What's going on in your head right now? Because they're
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thinking about something because it's an awkward silence. So it's
just that communication and it's showing what people are actually feeling.
And I feel like that's such a powerful thing to
have and the knowledge that's definitely helped me. And yes,
I said with the kids, they're living a lot happier now.
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Since doing this work and then being able to do
this on my kids, they have changed massively. I've already
used to not be able to dance whenever we have
music on it. It's the same as me how I
grew up. I would never show anything like that, and
he was the same and he would never dance. And
since doing this stuff, when we have music playing, he's
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dancing and he's been silly and he's joking around and
he's been himself. So it's to give that space to
your kids. And lastly, on that just picture like if
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you were to do this for your kids, your partner,
your friends, that relationship is just going to blossom so
much and you're going to give them safety. And to
give someone safety. Is this the most beautiful thing ever?
Because in this world all we have is relationships. At
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the end of the day, the relationship is number one
over everything. And I saw this on Instagram that a
doctor that sees a lot of people when they're passing away,
like you never you never say where are my trophies?
Where are my achievements? I want all my money with me,
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They say, where's my loved ones? I want to say
goodbye to them? I want to be with the people
I love. And to be able to put this work
into the people that you do love and the people
you see and the relationships, that's time well spent. And
that's that's what I've learned doing this sort of stuff.
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My self development journey is definitely helped me massively in
those areas and to be able to do that is, Yeah,
it's amazing. So I would challenge you when something comes up,
when someone gets triggered, when someone sparks up and says
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something out of the ordinary, not like them, Well maybe
it is like them, but when they get triggered. Just
say what's happening, what's going on, and what's really going on,
because their first response will always be their ego, and
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from there, see what happens, see the magic unfold. You
will absolutely love it. So that is my story and
that's what I've learned over this time, and I hope
you've enjoyed. I hope you have the best day, and
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I will see you on the next podcast. Thanks.
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