October 6, 2025 • 43 mins
Have you ever felt like you’re doing all the right things in your business, but still not getting where you want to be? That’s because success isn’t just about strategy. It’s about finally becoming the version of you who can hold that level of success.
In this episode, I’m talking to Margot Miller, a therapist turned business & mindset coach who bridges psychological healing and strategic business growth. She guides ambitious women out of survival mode and into unapologetic success.
We dive into:
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Why strategy alone will only get you so far
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How to identify and shift your survival self
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What it really means to upgrade your identity
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Navigating imposter syndrome, self-sabotage, and criticism
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Balancing energetics + practical action for sustained growth
If you’re ready to stop hustling from your old self and step into your next level with confidence, clarity, and aligned energy, this episode is your invitation 💌✨
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
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This is Rise and Copper, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood,
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business manifestation, and so much more. It's positive, it's practical,
and it's about putting you in the driver's seat of
your own life. Are you ready? Hello, my loves, Welcome
back to the podcast. Today I have an exciting guest
for you. Her name is Margot Miller. She is a
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business strategist and a mindset coach who's all about helping
you upgrade your identity when it comes to money and business.
So in this episode, Margo is sharing how to navigate
the challenges that come with pivoting in business, stepping into
a new version of yourself and aligning your actions with
financial success. So you're ready to claim it all. So
(01:30):
whether you're in a season of growth, a period of transition,
or just feeling a little bit stuck, Margo's insights are
going to help you rise to the next level with
clarity and confidence. She is a short one, she is
a sweet one. Let's get into it. Margo, Welcome to
the Rise and Conquer Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So so welcome. I'm so excited we could get you
on the show. I know it is about six pm
your time there in La, so thank you for making
the time. Before we get into the juicy questions, I
would love for you to just introduce yourself to the
n C community. Who is Margo, What does she do?
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How did everything come about?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hi, guys, I'm Margot. I'm a mindset mentor and I've
been working with people for almost two decades, so I've
been on this journey for a long time. It's basically
my soul's purpose why I incarnated into planet Earth is
to help eemil entrepreneurs quantum leave their impact and income amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And so, Margo, I found you through Instagram, probably on
my for you page kind of thing, and I instantly
just had the energetic pool to your content, into your
vibration and to your frequency. And you know, I'm an entrepreneur,
I'm a businesswoman, so I'm very much your target market.
(02:56):
And the way that you spoke to me it was
a very much like non bullshit approach. But we were
talking energetics, we were talking about you know, identity work,
and yeah, it really spoke to me. I would love
for you to kind of touch on the topic of
how success isn't just strategy because I feel like a
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lot of women, you know, they get into business and
they think it's this framework of like, well, I just
need the right strategy. I just need like the bro strategy,
and then I'll make the money and then I'll be
really happy. And sometimes that works, but then it becomes unsustainable.
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They find like I'm not really happy, like I'm making
this money, but I'm like hustling and et cetera, et cetera.
Can you kind of just touch on like why success
isn't just about strategy?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I think you nailed it on head, Like we
can create success when we're in survival mode and we're
just taking action and we're fucking hustling to death, right,
But at some point that's just not sustainable. Right. What
I found from working with so many women is this
is the number one thing comes up. People go, who
am I to do this? Right? And so anytime that
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program is running, people are a they're either going to
waywork themselves to death like the bro marketing thing, right,
they're just go, go, go all the strategies, and it's
coming from a place of like, usually we're trying to
prove ourselves on an unconscious level, right, And so if
we're just doing we're missing out on I think the
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whole premise of entrepreneurship, which is the evolution of our
soul and our existence. So yeah, if you just want
to go out there and fucking make shit happen and
go make money, fuck yeah, But like women, A aren't
designed to do that long term. And then b if
you have a higher calling and you want to create
impact and purpose, you have to go beyond strategy.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so if someone's listening and they're like, yes, you know,
I've been doing the strategy. The strategy somewhat works. What
should they be doing? What else should they be looking
for and touching on?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, two things to look at. Number One, what's like
your first thought when you get out of bed, right, Like,
I feel like that is going to tell you a
lot about what's going through your mind most of the day.
Is it like oh fuck, I have to post now?
Is it like oh are they going to think of me? Like?
Oh god? You know, it's like what are you saying
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to yourself throughout the day, and then also what's the
predominant emotion that you're operating under, Like we carry these
sort of collective programs from our past, right, Like our
emotions kind of become anchors if we're not doing work
on ourselves. And so if you want to look at
what you could be doing differently, the first thing is
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to become aware of what you're saying to yourself on
a daily basis and what with emotion on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I love that you said about like, oh my god,
I've got a post today because I definitely went through
a period. I have been on social media for you know,
ten years, and I went through a period where I
was like, I don't want to post on social media anymore,
Like I'm so exhausted from showing up for being this
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like continuous person, and I felt so stuck. I felt
like a victim. I felt like, oh my god, it's
so annoying that I have to do this thing in
order to get this thing, Like what would you say
and kind of coach old Georgie through.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so first of all valid, like I don't know
if anyone goes, oh my god, I'm so excited to
post today like love this, Like anyone does that? Right?
Like what is our bigger vision? What's our bigger purpose?
And so were either committed to it or we've lost
sight of our why So I would go to her
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and be like maybe the younger her was building a
foundation off of her survival self, or she doing things
that she wasn't connected to because how I look at
it is like, yeah, every single thing we do is
going to have a shadow side. But if the shadow
side is posting once a day when you're committed to
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your vision and your purpose and your mission, to me,
that's a lot better than having to show up at
a nine to five and to be in a cubicle
all day, Like I'm that to me, it takes my soul.
So it's like hitting the post every day and having
to show up. Yeah, it is a job. It's a
literal job. Content creation takes a lot, So I'm curious
for you at that time, where was the disconnect to
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your purpose?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I love that question. It was really around for me.
I have, you know, my self development business, you know
Rise and Concer, the podcast, the courses, that sort of thing,
and then I have my product based business, Naked Harvest,
which is like you know, supple it's products. And the
disconnect back then was I felt like when I was
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showing up, I had to like pick which person I
had to be and like which cause I was like
feeding into. And that felt disconnected because as a managen
and someone who is so multi passionate, it never feels
good for me if you try and put me in
a box. And so for me, I had lost vision
of like, well, I'm not here to sell self development
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or I'm not here to sell a supplement. I'm here
to be Georgy and to inspire other people to live
on their own terms, which is what I'm doing by
having a social media where I have two different things.
But it's like I didn't even feel a need to have,
you know, split myself because it's like the whole person
is both those things. So I feel like personally, that's
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what the disconnect was for me back back then.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Wow, And once you kind of found your rhythm to
kind of merge them as like a hybrid, did you
find that there was less resistance or more energy to
showing up?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah? Well, like for the process I had to work
through was for me to think that I have to
fit in a box or be this or that goes
completely against what I preach and teach my community. So like,
how dare I, you know, think that? And I wasn't
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aware that that's what was happening. And even I love
what you said about the shadow side of something because
when I really thought about it, like I went into
the oh my god, like poor me, I have to
post on social media, you know, as I get into
like my Porsche car and show up to my warehouse
that you do you know what I mean? Like poor me,
(09:48):
I have to post like on social media and I'm
literally living like the life of my dreams, Like shut up, Geordy.
And we do we get like we get into these
victims mentalities. And even going back to like you said, though,
I'm sure all of us, if we're business women, we've
worked the nine to five, we've done the thing that
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we don't want to do and we have evidence, and
we have like the previous version of us, and it's
like we forget that. Like I used to work law
and wake up at four am, start work at seven
point thirty, not get home till seven pm. And now
I literally get to choose when I start work. I
have a whole team that helps me with everything in
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my business. I always get home by four pm to
my daughter, so I'm like, poor me, I have to
post on social media like shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah. And I love that you're so transparent about that
because I think that that's really valid and it's great
because you're showing that people there like are a lot
of our desires and what we're doing and what we
feel pulled toward. It's our north star. But it's not
like you things like a walk in the park. I
think it's just you commit to the mission, and when
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we're disconnected, we're going to resent what we're doing. And
when we reconnect and we show up more, you know,
in alignment with who we are, we have the freedom
to be whatever the fuck we want to be online.
It just frees us up and makes it easier.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So so true, and like it really did take me
reconnecting to that vision of like, well, I'm here to
show other women that they don't have to fit themselves
into a box. So why am I trying to do that?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I love that we just had like a mini coaching session.
I love that you talk a lot about like an
identity upgrade and really leaning into that for someone who
doesn't really understand what does that mean.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, So if we just break it down to the
very basics, our identity is what we think, what we do,
and how we are on a day to day basis, right,
And so for example, we'll go back to your example,
when we are when we feel disconnected or we feel
like we have to be in in separate ways, right,
like parts of us have to do this thing or
it's unconscious, right, A lot of it's unconscious. It makes
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it challenging to create the impact and do the thing
that we came here to do right way of being
in the world. And so once we become aware of
our identity, we're aware that we can start to change
things and we have a lot more freedom with our reality.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And so someone who's struggling with their current identity, what's
like the first step that they could take to shift
and change their identity.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, a lot of identity challenges stem from visibility wounds.
So even the point we just used, right, so part
of that was the obligations or what you were allowed
to be on social media, and so a lot of
our identity is constructed by the fear of being seen,
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by the fear of rejection, and so we unconsciously take
on these survival roles as a way to protect ourselves.
And so if we want to shift our identity, we
have to really look at where our survival self has
kind of come in as a mask, so we can
start to shift it and shift into who we are,
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which is like a more authentic version of us.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So when we're upgrading our identity, it's not necessarily like
oh I want to be and just making up like
a random identity. Would you say, it's more of how
can I uncover? How can I unmosk myself and step
more into that person?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah? I love getting specific, Like I love being like,
if you want to get rich, be like, what is
my seven figure self? Study her, like, get about her,
give yourself something to focus on other than your fears,
and like what's holding you back? Right? I think if
you just literally brainwash yourself constantly into the new character.
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Eventually you'll merge with her. So I think getting specific
is the best way to do it. But a lot
of us, when we've been in survival for so long,
can't even connect to that, Like that feels too much stretch.
So sometimes the first step is to be like, well,
what do we fucking hate? Right? Oh, you're like this
ain't it? You know, like, okay, showing up and trying
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to do two things and not be myself. This ain't
it either. Like that's most of our journey is figuring
out what the fuck we hate so that we can
move closer towards who we want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
M I love that because sometimes it does feel overwhelming
to try and be clear on our next level and
our next identity, and so it's like, well, what do
I just not want to be?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah? That's like the learning point, it really is. It
gives you, I think, more information than what you want.
So true, because what we we're just kind of like, Okay,
onto the next thing, right. I Mean it's a great target.
It's good to have desires and follow them, but yeah,
but the recognizing what isn't working is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I love that, and so something that you help female
entrepreneurs with is really quantum, you know, their impact and
their income. What would you say out of your clients
is like the biggest shift that they usually need to
actually make or do to see that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, so I work with a lot of advanced souls
like yourself. How you were like, Oh, I found the
content and I just was gravitated towards it. And so
it usually ends up being one of two things. One
people are too focused on energetics and they're not strong
enough foundation. Right, they're kind of like highly gifted, but
maybe like just tuning into the money all day but
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not actually building the business or hyper fixated on the
strategy and the action and doing things from a sort
of desperation proving energy. So that's kind of what I found.
It's like one way or the other. It's usually how
people kind of start off the gate.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So that person who's in that like proving energy, that
desperation like I need this, I need to get this done,
I need to succeed. What do you usually do with
that sort of client?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, So a lot of that usually comes from either
a childhood wound or it's coming from a lineage level
where it's like the lineage believes that in order to
be successful, this is who you have to be. So
it's kind of like peeling back the layers of the
onion there. And I think it's a little bit different
for everyone. Everyone's source of motivation is different, and a
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lot of people fear that if they get rid of
the wound that they'll become lazy and unmotivated. And to
some extent, if the worst thing you're doing is trying
to prove yourself and you're building an amazing empire, that's
actually not that bad. You could be like on drugs.
There's plenty of other things that you could be doing
that's a worse than that, but eventually it's going to
kind of crumble. So you're going to want to build
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from a stronger foundation than that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And so how does someone kind of shift into that
stronger foundation to then, you know, stop making more money
and start seeing that success.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To be honest, it's usually that people hit a bottom,
either emotional physically, or a significant event happens in their
life and they're like, I want something deeper, I want more,
meaning this isn't like putting me in any way, And
so sometimes it's a combination of things, but that's usually
it's some sort of bottom internally or externally.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then so on the flip side, you know the
other person who is like just like sitting in the
energetics and that like very feminine, like you know, doing
all the mindset work but not necessarily taking the action.
Is it just more about like taking the action for
them or.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said that
sometimes we just need real clarity. Sometimes people literally don't
know how to start making content. People sometimes don't know
what their messaging is or how to speak to problem
awareness content that makes it clear that you're running a business.
Some people don't know how to sell, and so I
think that there's actually some really practical skill sets that
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can help people feel more confident to actually start taking
some moves and swinging bigger in their life. But again,
I think that a lot of times people kind of
have to be like, Okay, I want it now, I
want it, and I'm willing to get in the game
and willing to get things messy and tuning into the
energetics is great, but it's not getting me what I
want all the way. What's missed? How I go fill
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the gap.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And so for you personally in your business, do you
have like a set amount of like time where you
do like strategy and then the energetic or like kind
of how have you set up your business to combine
the both.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. So one of my biggest things is I've hired
up right, So I didn't just start with like, okay,
I need support here, I need this. I hired someone
who has built out seven eight figure brands, and so
strategy wise, she's like, okay, well this is what I've
seen works right, and then she was just like here's
the three and you just stick to this. I'm like great.
(19:02):
So I don't really sit around strategizing. I just kind
of mastered my niche and then I just intuitively tune
in every day and create content for them. But I
hire people because that's you know, I know my zone
of genius and I know where I need support. So
for me, it's like I'm I'm not going to just
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wake up one day and be like, oh, I feel
like doing this and feel like I wanted a really
simplified business strategy that I could stick to for the
rest of my life. And that was just my own
personal preference.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I very much resonate with that. Like I remember when
I had left my law job and so I was
only earning about like sixty thousand dollars a year and
I hired a coach for like forty thousand dollars US.
And it really came from this place of, well, I
quit law, and I am going to like make this
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business work. So I'm going to hire someone who has
done the thing I want to do, and like, I'm
just going to do it. I'm not going to like
sit around and try and figure it out and like
look at random free content. I'm just going to go
straight to the end.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That was literally what blew up my business. I love
that when and I, yeah, I did join the Mastermind,
like when I didn't when I like technically didn't have
the money, and I was like, fuck it, I'm doing
it because I just knew. I knew it was going
to work. And you're right, replicate a formula that is
proven to be successful. It's not like some crazy math
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experiment like it worked. No.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, And also understanding that it's like if you're in
this for the long run, if you want to be
doing this business, you know, for the foreseeable future. It's
like that amount of money is like a blip, like
it's it's not going to matter.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's where the identity work comes in, because when you
start moving like your multi six, multi seven, multi eight self,
you're not using your current circumstances to make moves. You're
moving from a higher version of you and that wantum leave,
and that's how things move faster.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
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All right, let's get back into the episode, and so
let's get into kind of from like a psych perspective.
(23:00):
Let's talk about like self sabotage, imposter syndrome, those sort
of limiting beliefs that you would see come up a
lot in your coaching. I, you know, hear about these
terms of the time, I have felt them myself. What's
kind of happening in our brains? And then like, how
do we move through this as we're feeling it in
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our business?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, So, first of all, I love when people have
imposter syndrome when it comes up, because if you didn't
care about what you were doing, you wouldn't care if
you turned out to like, you know, what other people
thought of you, or like oh, she's coming off like
a fraud. It's a sign that you actually are doing
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something that's vulnerable at that on some level. We can
all have unworthiness and we can all feel like an
impostor on some level. But when it really kicks up
is usually when people come into the arena of what
they care about the most. So I don't know if
you when you were doing law, if you felt like
this huge, massive imposter syndrome, or if you felt it
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more when you started your business. And I have seen
a lot of the times when you get closer to
the thing that you care about, it ramps up. So
first of all, it can be feedback that you're doing
the thing that you want to do. And then second
of all, a lot of us mistake imposter syndrome for
just feeling fucking uncomfortable and new at something. So if
imposter syndrome, if you start a business and five years
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later you still feel like a fraud, then yeah, like that,
you maybe you want to get a training or you
want to work on your mindset. Of course, you know,
it's like a brain's trying to protect you on some level.
But for most of us, we're just new starting off
and we're just getting comfortable with the unknown, and we
feel like a fraud, but we're just beginners and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I love that so much. And I'm like resonating with that,
because you know, I have had my business for five
years now, and I feel very comfortable and like I
could walk into any room and tell you about my
business and tell you about the strategy and feel very like, well,
this is what has worked for me, and very confident
in that. And I think that's so true. Like so
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I'll have so many conversations with you know, clients or
even friends and family about well, it's like they want
to jump into this new identity. They want to jump
into this new version of themselves and they're like, oh,
but you know, but what do I do when things
feel tough, when you know, things start coming up, when
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people are saying things, and I have to really explain
if it was really easy to just jump timelines to
step into new identities, Like if it was really easy
to just step into a seven figure identity, we would
all be earning seven figures. And it's not easy. But
it's like there will be this lag period where you
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need to hold the discomfort of that new identity, but
not everyone's going to do it, So who are you
going to be? And I think we have ear all
quite you know, we are wired to be comfortable, want
to be comfortable, So I get it. But it's like,
well that's going to like I don't know if this
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is a wild thing to say, but it's like, well,
it's just like if you can't get uncomfortable, well that's
going to show you the people who will never have
this seven big business, cause it's like it's such a
small thing really in reality, to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You nailed it. Something intuitively that I used to tell myself.
I had a neurological disease for ten years. I was
really sick in bed, and intuitively, I always felt like
I was gonna make a difference on some level or
have a community someday. And I would tell myself, I'm like,
if I can't handle this, if I can't handle this trigger,
how the fuck am I going to like guide a
community one day? How the fuck am I going to
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like be on stages or make it act in the
world if I can't handle like this thing that came
up right now. So every time I enter a new level,
I'm like if I can't handle this, how much handle that?
And then immediately I just get bigger than it. And
it's always been my kind of go to in my
back pocket where I'm just like, this is no big deal,
like I got this, I know how to get bigger
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than things, and it would help me move through my
timelines faster and faster. But you're right, we all have
moments where we're going to fall and feel defeated and
feel let down and feel discouraged. It's just how quickly
we get back in it and hold the vision and
hold that identity before our reality matches.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It So true. And that's even like I went through
something recently where I had to hold something financially and
you know, I was complaining about it and to my husband,
and it is funny because he like pointed out, He's like, oh, Georgia,
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like you know, like we really we're complaining about having
like this huge property portfoilo folio, like millions and million dollars,
and he's like, really, if this is our problem in
the world, like if this is really what we have
to deal with, like we're doing pretty well, Like it's fine,
We'll hold the discomfort, We'll move through it, It's going
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to work out. And I thought, wow, that is so
funny because even I think a lot of people would think,
I just need to get to the seven figure business
and I'll never worry about money again. I just need
to get to the eight you know, figurbits, I just
need to get this. I just need to do this.
I just need to make that sale my business and
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then I won't feel the imposter syndrome. But what you
don't realize is you will constantly feel imposter syndrome. You
will constantly, but it's not so much oh my god,
I'm here again. I also, you know, deeply believe in
like new level, new devil. And it's like when I'm
feeling it, I really lean into Wow, this is so
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exciting because I must be up leveling my identity, like
I must be moving into a new life level. And
like changing the anxiety to excitement really helps her meet to.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That is such a valid point. I think people just
assume when you get to a certain stage, you're like
you're you're fine whatever. And I think our psyche is
looking for relief from challenges. In some way, our primal
brain is like we want the problems to be gone.
But it's just better and better challenges, right, like challenges,
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but we never escape it. We're in the game till
the day we die. It's just the game is getting
higher quality problems basically.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, and that's well, it's funny going back to that
same problem. My my husband's like a while back, he's like, well,
why don't we just because we have like a large
property portfolio. And he was like, well, why don't we
just sell all our properties and we won't have the
stress of the properties. And then I'm like, but then
we don't have like a property portfolio. We don't have
like our future thing. And he's like, well, what.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Do you want from me?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I'm like and then I'm like, yeah, true, then
I'm gonna have the stress of not having that in
the future and not setting myself up in the future.
So it's like, what would you rather the stress and
discomfort now or the stress and discomfort in the future
for like the opposite thing. And I really had to
take that on and be like, and I personally use
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a lot of nervous system regulation tools like EFT tapping, hypnosis, meditation,
and that sort of thing. And so I went and
did some EFT tapping and I felt so much better
and I was like, it's fine, I don't have to stress.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. That's such a good point too, because you can
feel an intense trigger and get yourself out of it.
And I think entrepreneurship trains you to be that way,
constantly getting uncomfortable, so you're constantly shifting and then you're
just you just get good at it. You get good
at pulling yourself out.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah. Yeah, and you have to be that's like, you
just have to get better at being uncomfortable pulling yourself out.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Let's chat about because I love that you did touch
on like that sort of like identity piece of like
a seven figure entrepreneur, And I'd really love to know
your thoughts on do you think money and success requires
a certain identity Like I know we touched on like
even the identities you need to be comfortable with the uncomfortable,
(31:24):
But what sort of like other identity pieces do we
need to be a successful, you know, seven figure entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Let's say, yeah, well, if we think about the consciousness
of a seven figure entrepreneur, that is the consciousness of abundance, right,
and so if we're trying to become that and we
are in scarcity twenty four to seven, or we are
super triggered around money, or we have hard programmed beliefs
that it's hard to come by or that it easy
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kind of easy. Go you have it all, you lose
it all. If we're running that we're not a match
match and so you don't have to be perfect. We
all have limiting beliefs. You can take them along for
the ride at some point. It's just what's the predominant
system running? And if you're predominantly in scarcity and you're
trying to be abundant, you have to upgrade to that
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consciousness in order to create it. Or you could spend
your whole life working your ass off and saving and
problem maybe get there. But why would you want to
do it that way? When we have the tools to
quantum li and so can you run us.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Through a couple more of those like what's the match?
What's like?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Because I find a lot of people like okay, cool,
yet well I want that, but I've never been that,
so I don't know what their you know, belief system is.
So obviously I love that you touched on like abundance
and like not having scarcity what are some other ones
that people can lock into if they don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, So I think a big piece of the seven
figure consciousness is visibility relationship to being seen in the world.
Seven figure consciousness takes up space. Seven figure consciousness knows
how to bring their triggers along for the ride. They
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know how to get beyond themselves. They know how to
show up and serve. They can have fears and still
do the damn thing right. So so much of it
is the value that we bring to the world and
what we feel worthy receiving for it. And so if
we're hiding out, if we're playing small on some level
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of our being, we also won't be a match to it.
So it's a stepping into that abundance mindset. B it's
feeling worthy to be in the world and feel comfortable
on some level of your being, to feel safe and
out there with your message, your voice, or your business.
Right like, visibility is required in pretty much every field
of that bigger consciousness. So those are kind of like
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the two pieces I would really work on is the
mindset and the visibility piece, And I think if you
can kind of merge those together, I think you could
make a lot of moves in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So with the visibility piece, because I actually I do
this thing on TikTok where I call them like Pep
talked about I'll just like ran to my car, and
I literally did one this morning, and it was basically
talking about the fact that you know, we are so
scared of what people will think and the judgments and
(34:31):
the criticism that we will literally live in untapped life,
a duller life to make other people not talk about
us or like to feel comfortable. And basically I said,
like it kind of comes with the territory, like when
you are fully being yourself, when you are fully out there,
you're not, you know, dulling yourself. You're making yourself smaller.
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You will have judgments and criticism because that is triggering
for other people who cannot do that, who cannot hold you.
So it's like we're always going to get criticized and
judge when we are being our bigger, most vivrant, you know,
best selves and being visible. So how would someone you know, like,
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what do you kind of teach your clients of like
how to work through that? And someone who feels like
pretty much like debilitated with not moving forward because they
don't want to be visible.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, most of us are debilitated for a valid reason,
like most of us have experienced some kind of trauma
related to our appearance, related to our personality, or maybe
just in our family we felt like the black sheep
or something. So a lot of the times there's a
reason for that. But part of our journey here is
(35:52):
like the soul came here to live the other side
of the spectrum. You didn't sign up to come here
to be rejected, CRITICEDI and not experience the other side
of the coin, right, And so there's always a turning
point for the soul where when they get back out
there it's the opposite. And yeah, you are going to
be criticized on some level, but oftentimes it's really small.
(36:13):
Like I think when people come into their gifts and
build the brands and the businesses that they came here
to build, the majority of the time, it's not like
people are shitting on you every second of the day.
It's actually a pretty small percent. It's just that our
brains hyper fixate on it. We just usually take the
childhood bad experiences and we magnify the shit out of that.
(36:35):
But I don't know about you I mean, I'll get
Joe from here to some mother's basement shitting on my love.
It doesn't It literally does nothing, you know, So it's
like it's not actually that big of a percentage on
a day to day basis. Of course, once in a
while you get it and you're like, oh, ouch, like
that was that one didn't feel good? But it's actually
pretty rare if we look at on a day to
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day you're right, when you're in the arena, you're gonna
get but every second of every it's not like that.
It's just not no, And so you just have to
program yourself to be like this actually is more connected
with money, abundance, property is like you have to drill
your brain to believe that that's going to be the
primary reality and that you have all of it through
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your mind. You can control your reality.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yes, so true, And I think we do. We get
so hyper fixated on the negatives, on the judgments, on
the criticism, and do you think it's just about like constantly,
you know, changing those neuropathways and looking for the good,
looking for our community who resonates, looking for our passion
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in this feels really good to show up in that way.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, I would even go a step deeper. Sometimes I
have gotten hate and it's been my best feedback. And
I'm not about the Joe's and my grandma basement people,
you know, not like a man. But sometimes I've gotten
really harsh feedback and I was like, damn, they're right,
I could have done that better.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
But delah.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Like, I think some of my my harsh feedback because
once in a while, like maybe a couple times a year,
I'm like, oh, fuck, like that shifted the way I
did something. Okay, cool, I'm nuance something the next time
I did a piece of content, Like there's value in it.
So I mean, unless it's just someone knocking you down
because they're miserable, but who gives a fuck about that?
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Like that's not gonna in serving the people I came
here to serve. And yeah, like feedback sucks sometimes when
it's it's always gonna not be fun to hear. But
sometimes there's so much value there's gold in it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah. Well, even I've noticed some of the greatest criticism
have oh like just like the greatest judgments have really
showed me what I need to heal. Yeah, and like
where I need to look and be like, oh, fuck,
that person saying that about me? It did actually really hurt.
(39:04):
And so what's in that that I need to heal?
What's in that that I need to I guess like
reframed with myself because it's never actually about the other person,
And it has been very helpful to be like more
accepting of myself almost exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And so we don't get the opportunity to build that
muscle of thickness, or to have our wounds be magnified,
or to get feedback that actually might be helpful in
a very bad delivery if we're not in the arena
being seen, like, we miss out opportunity. So while our
brain is like this is we don't want this, we
don't want this, there's there's so much value in it
this for our you know.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, no, it's so true. And also it's like I
would rather be getting the criticisms and the judgments and
growing as a human and moving through that evolution then
like being this same person and being stuck in the
same you know, reality for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I hardcore agree. I actually think fearing criticism is more
painful than actually being in the experience of receiving it.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
There's been times where I was too scared to like
do something and the fear of it was just comparalyzing,
But then actually getting it once you're in it, you're like, Okay,
I can I can handle this. You know, it's not
like gonna kill me.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, It's literally just words.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
From a stranger on the internet.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
So so true. Well, Margot, I have just loved this chat.
Thank you for being so raw, so real and so
honest and giving us so many insights. Could you let
everyone know where they can find you, where they can
find your incredible activating you know, social media and how
to work with you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Of course you can buy me at Margot Miller a fish.
I just changed my handle on the ground so you
can find me there. And yeah, I welcome you into
my community.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Amazing. Do you have any last thoughts, comments, vibes or
even just like that person who is you know they
really resonate with, like I want to have it all
in life? What would your advice be for them?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Great? Where do you feel like, okay, so with your
community and having it all? Where do you think that
they're feeling the most stuck with that concept or even
in the process of manifesting it.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I feel like they think they need to pick, do
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like they
need to be like, oh, well, either get to be
like a career woman or I can be a stay
at home mum, or you know, I have to be
this or that. They're not understanding that. It's like they
can really create a reality where they, you know, can
have it all.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah. A lot of times when we think we have
to choose something, it's been modeled to us through our
lineage or by society. So we're often just using examples
of what we see on the outside of what's possible
for us. But here's the thing. Why on Earth would
we incarnate into this planet and have desires put on
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our heart to not actualize them? Like from my perspective,
there would literally actually be no purpose of being here.
Like our desires are our north stars for exactly what
we're meant to have in life. So if you have
the desire to have it all, to have the career,
to be the mom, that's literally what you came here
to do. The reason people feel limited in it is
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because that's their deepest desire and that's what they're here to.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Actualize and they're fearful of failing.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
That's all it is, because it's the thing that's closest
to their heart. So it's a north star. It's not
something to buy into. And just like we talked about,
it's about holding the vision and holding that long than
the self doubt and if you can do that, you'll
have it all.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I love that so much. Thank you. I appreciate your time.
I appreciate you. We'll have all the links in the
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This is Rise and Copper, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood,
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business manifestation, and so much more. It's positive, it's practical,
and it's about putting you in the driver's seat of
your own life. Are you ready? Hello, my loves, Welcome
back to the podcast. Today I have an exciting guest
for you. Her name is Margot Miller. She is a
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business strategist and a mindset coach who's all about helping
you upgrade your identity when it comes to money and business.
So in this episode, Margo is sharing how to navigate
the challenges that come with pivoting in business, stepping into
a new version of yourself and aligning your actions with
financial success. So you're ready to claim it all. So
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whether you're in a season of growth, a period of transition,
or just feeling a little bit stuck, Margo's insights are
going to help you rise to the next level with
clarity and confidence. She is a short one, she is
a sweet one. Let's get into it. Margo, Welcome to
the Rise and Conquer Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So so welcome. I'm so excited we could get you
on the show. I know it is about six pm
your time there in La, so thank you for making
the time. Before we get into the juicy questions, I
would love for you to just introduce yourself to the
n C community. Who is Margo, What does she do?
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How did everything come about?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hi, guys, I'm Margot. I'm a mindset mentor and I've
been working with people for almost two decades, so I've
been on this journey for a long time. It's basically
my soul's purpose why I incarnated into planet Earth is
to help eemil entrepreneurs quantum leave their impact and income amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And so, Margo, I found you through Instagram, probably on
my for you page kind of thing, and I instantly
just had the energetic pool to your content, into your
vibration and to your frequency. And you know, I'm an entrepreneur,
I'm a businesswoman, so I'm very much your target market.
(02:56):
And the way that you spoke to me it was
a very much like non bullshit approach. But we were
talking energetics, we were talking about you know, identity work,
and yeah, it really spoke to me. I would love
for you to kind of touch on the topic of
how success isn't just strategy because I feel like a
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lot of women, you know, they get into business and
they think it's this framework of like, well, I just
need the right strategy. I just need like the bro strategy,
and then I'll make the money and then I'll be
really happy. And sometimes that works, but then it becomes unsustainable.
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They find like I'm not really happy, like I'm making
this money, but I'm like hustling and et cetera, et cetera.
Can you kind of just touch on like why success
isn't just about strategy?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I think you nailed it on head, Like we
can create success when we're in survival mode and we're
just taking action and we're fucking hustling to death, right,
But at some point that's just not sustainable. Right. What
I found from working with so many women is this
is the number one thing comes up. People go, who
am I to do this? Right? And so anytime that
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program is running, people are a they're either going to
waywork themselves to death like the bro marketing thing, right,
they're just go, go, go all the strategies, and it's
coming from a place of like, usually we're trying to
prove ourselves on an unconscious level, right, And so if
we're just doing we're missing out on I think the
(04:34):
whole premise of entrepreneurship, which is the evolution of our
soul and our existence. So yeah, if you just want
to go out there and fucking make shit happen and
go make money, fuck yeah, But like women, A aren't
designed to do that long term. And then b if
you have a higher calling and you want to create
impact and purpose, you have to go beyond strategy.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so if someone's listening and they're like, yes, you know,
I've been doing the strategy. The strategy somewhat works. What
should they be doing? What else should they be looking
for and touching on?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, two things to look at. Number One, what's like
your first thought when you get out of bed, right, Like,
I feel like that is going to tell you a
lot about what's going through your mind most of the day.
Is it like oh fuck, I have to post now?
Is it like oh are they going to think of me? Like?
Oh god? You know, it's like what are you saying
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to yourself throughout the day, and then also what's the
predominant emotion that you're operating under, Like we carry these
sort of collective programs from our past, right, Like our
emotions kind of become anchors if we're not doing work
on ourselves. And so if you want to look at
what you could be doing differently, the first thing is
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to become aware of what you're saying to yourself on
a daily basis and what with emotion on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I love that you said about like, oh my god,
I've got a post today because I definitely went through
a period. I have been on social media for you know,
ten years, and I went through a period where I
was like, I don't want to post on social media anymore,
Like I'm so exhausted from showing up for being this
(06:22):
like continuous person, and I felt so stuck. I felt
like a victim. I felt like, oh my god, it's
so annoying that I have to do this thing in
order to get this thing, Like what would you say
and kind of coach old Georgie through.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so first of all valid, like I don't know
if anyone goes, oh my god, I'm so excited to
post today like love this, Like anyone does that? Right?
Like what is our bigger vision? What's our bigger purpose?
And so were either committed to it or we've lost
sight of our why So I would go to her
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and be like maybe the younger her was building a
foundation off of her survival self, or she doing things
that she wasn't connected to because how I look at
it is like, yeah, every single thing we do is
going to have a shadow side. But if the shadow
side is posting once a day when you're committed to
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your vision and your purpose and your mission, to me,
that's a lot better than having to show up at
a nine to five and to be in a cubicle
all day, Like I'm that to me, it takes my soul.
So it's like hitting the post every day and having
to show up. Yeah, it is a job. It's a
literal job. Content creation takes a lot, So I'm curious
for you at that time, where was the disconnect to
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your purpose?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I love that question. It was really around for me.
I have, you know, my self development business, you know
Rise and Concer, the podcast, the courses, that sort of thing,
and then I have my product based business, Naked Harvest,
which is like you know, supple it's products. And the
disconnect back then was I felt like when I was
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showing up, I had to like pick which person I
had to be and like which cause I was like
feeding into. And that felt disconnected because as a managen
and someone who is so multi passionate, it never feels
good for me if you try and put me in
a box. And so for me, I had lost vision
of like, well, I'm not here to sell self development
(08:29):
or I'm not here to sell a supplement. I'm here
to be Georgy and to inspire other people to live
on their own terms, which is what I'm doing by
having a social media where I have two different things.
But it's like I didn't even feel a need to have,
you know, split myself because it's like the whole person
is both those things. So I feel like personally, that's
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what the disconnect was for me back back then.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Wow, And once you kind of found your rhythm to
kind of merge them as like a hybrid, did you
find that there was less resistance or more energy to
showing up?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah? Well, like for the process I had to work
through was for me to think that I have to
fit in a box or be this or that goes
completely against what I preach and teach my community. So like,
how dare I, you know, think that? And I wasn't
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aware that that's what was happening. And even I love
what you said about the shadow side of something because
when I really thought about it, like I went into
the oh my god, like poor me, I have to
post on social media, you know, as I get into
like my Porsche car and show up to my warehouse
that you do you know what I mean? Like poor me,
(09:48):
I have to post like on social media and I'm
literally living like the life of my dreams, Like shut up, Geordy.
And we do we get like we get into these
victims mentalities. And even going back to like you said, though,
I'm sure all of us, if we're business women, we've
worked the nine to five, we've done the thing that
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we don't want to do and we have evidence, and
we have like the previous version of us, and it's
like we forget that. Like I used to work law
and wake up at four am, start work at seven
point thirty, not get home till seven pm. And now
I literally get to choose when I start work. I
have a whole team that helps me with everything in
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my business. I always get home by four pm to
my daughter, so I'm like, poor me, I have to
post on social media like shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah. And I love that you're so transparent about that
because I think that that's really valid and it's great
because you're showing that people there like are a lot
of our desires and what we're doing and what we
feel pulled toward. It's our north star. But it's not
like you things like a walk in the park. I
think it's just you commit to the mission, and when
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we're disconnected, we're going to resent what we're doing. And
when we reconnect and we show up more, you know,
in alignment with who we are, we have the freedom
to be whatever the fuck we want to be online.
It just frees us up and makes it easier.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So so true, and like it really did take me
reconnecting to that vision of like, well, I'm here to
show other women that they don't have to fit themselves
into a box. So why am I trying to do that?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I love that we just had like a mini coaching session.
I love that you talk a lot about like an
identity upgrade and really leaning into that for someone who
doesn't really understand what does that mean.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, So if we just break it down to the
very basics, our identity is what we think, what we do,
and how we are on a day to day basis, right,
And so for example, we'll go back to your example,
when we are when we feel disconnected or we feel
like we have to be in in separate ways, right,
like parts of us have to do this thing or
it's unconscious, right, A lot of it's unconscious. It makes
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it challenging to create the impact and do the thing
that we came here to do right way of being
in the world. And so once we become aware of
our identity, we're aware that we can start to change
things and we have a lot more freedom with our reality.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And so someone who's struggling with their current identity, what's
like the first step that they could take to shift
and change their identity.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, a lot of identity challenges stem from visibility wounds.
So even the point we just used, right, so part
of that was the obligations or what you were allowed
to be on social media, and so a lot of
our identity is constructed by the fear of being seen,
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by the fear of rejection, and so we unconsciously take
on these survival roles as a way to protect ourselves.
And so if we want to shift our identity, we
have to really look at where our survival self has
kind of come in as a mask, so we can
start to shift it and shift into who we are,
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which is like a more authentic version of us.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So when we're upgrading our identity, it's not necessarily like
oh I want to be and just making up like
a random identity. Would you say, it's more of how
can I uncover? How can I unmosk myself and step
more into that person?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah? I love getting specific, Like I love being like,
if you want to get rich, be like, what is
my seven figure self? Study her, like, get about her,
give yourself something to focus on other than your fears,
and like what's holding you back? Right? I think if
you just literally brainwash yourself constantly into the new character.
(13:51):
Eventually you'll merge with her. So I think getting specific
is the best way to do it. But a lot
of us, when we've been in survival for so long,
can't even connect to that, Like that feels too much stretch.
So sometimes the first step is to be like, well,
what do we fucking hate? Right? Oh, you're like this
ain't it? You know, like, okay, showing up and trying
(14:12):
to do two things and not be myself. This ain't
it either. Like that's most of our journey is figuring
out what the fuck we hate so that we can
move closer towards who we want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
M I love that because sometimes it does feel overwhelming
to try and be clear on our next level and
our next identity, and so it's like, well, what do
I just not want to be?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah? That's like the learning point, it really is. It
gives you, I think, more information than what you want.
So true, because what we we're just kind of like, Okay,
onto the next thing, right. I Mean it's a great target.
It's good to have desires and follow them, but yeah,
but the recognizing what isn't working is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I love that, and so something that you help female
entrepreneurs with is really quantum, you know, their impact and
their income. What would you say out of your clients
is like the biggest shift that they usually need to
actually make or do to see that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, so I work with a lot of advanced souls
like yourself. How you were like, Oh, I found the
content and I just was gravitated towards it. And so
it usually ends up being one of two things. One
people are too focused on energetics and they're not strong
enough foundation. Right, they're kind of like highly gifted, but
maybe like just tuning into the money all day but
(15:35):
not actually building the business or hyper fixated on the
strategy and the action and doing things from a sort
of desperation proving energy. So that's kind of what I found.
It's like one way or the other. It's usually how
people kind of start off the gate.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So that person who's in that like proving energy, that
desperation like I need this, I need to get this done,
I need to succeed. What do you usually do with
that sort of client?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, So a lot of that usually comes from either
a childhood wound or it's coming from a lineage level
where it's like the lineage believes that in order to
be successful, this is who you have to be. So
it's kind of like peeling back the layers of the
onion there. And I think it's a little bit different
for everyone. Everyone's source of motivation is different, and a
(16:28):
lot of people fear that if they get rid of
the wound that they'll become lazy and unmotivated. And to
some extent, if the worst thing you're doing is trying
to prove yourself and you're building an amazing empire, that's
actually not that bad. You could be like on drugs.
There's plenty of other things that you could be doing
that's a worse than that, but eventually it's going to
kind of crumble. So you're going to want to build
(16:50):
from a stronger foundation than that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And so how does someone kind of shift into that
stronger foundation to then, you know, stop making more money
and start seeing that success.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To be honest, it's usually that people hit a bottom,
either emotional physically, or a significant event happens in their
life and they're like, I want something deeper, I want more,
meaning this isn't like putting me in any way, And
so sometimes it's a combination of things, but that's usually
it's some sort of bottom internally or externally.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then so on the flip side, you know the
other person who is like just like sitting in the
energetics and that like very feminine, like you know, doing
all the mindset work but not necessarily taking the action.
Is it just more about like taking the action for
them or.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said that
sometimes we just need real clarity. Sometimes people literally don't
know how to start making content. People sometimes don't know
what their messaging is or how to speak to problem
awareness content that makes it clear that you're running a business.
Some people don't know how to sell, and so I
think that there's actually some really practical skill sets that
(18:04):
can help people feel more confident to actually start taking
some moves and swinging bigger in their life. But again,
I think that a lot of times people kind of
have to be like, Okay, I want it now, I
want it, and I'm willing to get in the game
and willing to get things messy and tuning into the
energetics is great, but it's not getting me what I
want all the way. What's missed? How I go fill
(18:25):
the gap.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And so for you personally in your business, do you
have like a set amount of like time where you
do like strategy and then the energetic or like kind
of how have you set up your business to combine
the both.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. So one of my biggest things is I've hired
up right, So I didn't just start with like, okay,
I need support here, I need this. I hired someone
who has built out seven eight figure brands, and so
strategy wise, she's like, okay, well this is what I've
seen works right, and then she was just like here's
the three and you just stick to this. I'm like great.
(19:02):
So I don't really sit around strategizing. I just kind
of mastered my niche and then I just intuitively tune
in every day and create content for them. But I
hire people because that's you know, I know my zone
of genius and I know where I need support. So
for me, it's like I'm I'm not going to just
(19:23):
wake up one day and be like, oh, I feel
like doing this and feel like I wanted a really
simplified business strategy that I could stick to for the
rest of my life. And that was just my own
personal preference.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I very much resonate with that. Like I remember when
I had left my law job and so I was
only earning about like sixty thousand dollars a year and
I hired a coach for like forty thousand dollars US.
And it really came from this place of, well, I
quit law, and I am going to like make this
(19:56):
business work. So I'm going to hire someone who has
done the thing I want to do, and like, I'm
just going to do it. I'm not going to like
sit around and try and figure it out and like
look at random free content. I'm just going to go
straight to the end.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That was literally what blew up my business. I love
that when and I, yeah, I did join the Mastermind,
like when I didn't when I like technically didn't have
the money, and I was like, fuck it, I'm doing
it because I just knew. I knew it was going
to work. And you're right, replicate a formula that is
proven to be successful. It's not like some crazy math
(20:34):
experiment like it worked. No.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, And also understanding that it's like if you're in
this for the long run, if you want to be
doing this business, you know, for the foreseeable future. It's
like that amount of money is like a blip, like
it's it's not going to matter.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's where the identity work comes in, because when you
start moving like your multi six, multi seven, multi eight self,
you're not using your current circumstances to make moves. You're
moving from a higher version of you and that wantum leave,
and that's how things move faster.
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All right, let's get back into the episode, and so
let's get into kind of from like a psych perspective.
(23:00):
Let's talk about like self sabotage, imposter syndrome, those sort
of limiting beliefs that you would see come up a
lot in your coaching. I, you know, hear about these
terms of the time, I have felt them myself. What's
kind of happening in our brains? And then like, how
do we move through this as we're feeling it in
(23:21):
our business?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, So, first of all, I love when people have
imposter syndrome when it comes up, because if you didn't
care about what you were doing, you wouldn't care if
you turned out to like, you know, what other people
thought of you, or like oh, she's coming off like
a fraud. It's a sign that you actually are doing
(23:45):
something that's vulnerable at that on some level. We can
all have unworthiness and we can all feel like an
impostor on some level. But when it really kicks up
is usually when people come into the arena of what
they care about the most. So I don't know if
you when you were doing law, if you felt like
this huge, massive imposter syndrome, or if you felt it
(24:05):
more when you started your business. And I have seen
a lot of the times when you get closer to
the thing that you care about, it ramps up. So
first of all, it can be feedback that you're doing
the thing that you want to do. And then second
of all, a lot of us mistake imposter syndrome for
just feeling fucking uncomfortable and new at something. So if
imposter syndrome, if you start a business and five years
(24:26):
later you still feel like a fraud, then yeah, like that,
you maybe you want to get a training or you
want to work on your mindset. Of course, you know,
it's like a brain's trying to protect you on some level.
But for most of us, we're just new starting off
and we're just getting comfortable with the unknown, and we
feel like a fraud, but we're just beginners and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I love that so much. And I'm like resonating with that,
because you know, I have had my business for five
years now, and I feel very comfortable and like I
could walk into any room and tell you about my
business and tell you about the strategy and feel very like, well,
this is what has worked for me, and very confident
in that. And I think that's so true. Like so
(25:10):
I'll have so many conversations with you know, clients or
even friends and family about well, it's like they want
to jump into this new identity. They want to jump
into this new version of themselves and they're like, oh,
but you know, but what do I do when things
feel tough, when you know, things start coming up, when
(25:30):
people are saying things, and I have to really explain
if it was really easy to just jump timelines to
step into new identities, Like if it was really easy
to just step into a seven figure identity, we would
all be earning seven figures. And it's not easy. But
it's like there will be this lag period where you
(25:52):
need to hold the discomfort of that new identity, but
not everyone's going to do it, So who are you
going to be? And I think we have ear all
quite you know, we are wired to be comfortable, want
to be comfortable, So I get it. But it's like,
well that's going to like I don't know if this
(26:13):
is a wild thing to say, but it's like, well,
it's just like if you can't get uncomfortable, well that's
going to show you the people who will never have
this seven big business, cause it's like it's such a
small thing really in reality, to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You nailed it. Something intuitively that I used to tell myself.
I had a neurological disease for ten years. I was
really sick in bed, and intuitively, I always felt like
I was gonna make a difference on some level or
have a community someday. And I would tell myself, I'm like,
if I can't handle this, if I can't handle this trigger,
how the fuck am I going to like guide a
community one day? How the fuck am I going to
(26:50):
like be on stages or make it act in the
world if I can't handle like this thing that came
up right now. So every time I enter a new level,
I'm like if I can't handle this, how much handle that?
And then immediately I just get bigger than it. And
it's always been my kind of go to in my
back pocket where I'm just like, this is no big deal,
like I got this, I know how to get bigger
(27:12):
than things, and it would help me move through my
timelines faster and faster. But you're right, we all have
moments where we're going to fall and feel defeated and
feel let down and feel discouraged. It's just how quickly
we get back in it and hold the vision and
hold that identity before our reality matches.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It So true. And that's even like I went through
something recently where I had to hold something financially and
you know, I was complaining about it and to my husband,
and it is funny because he like pointed out, He's like, oh, Georgia,
(27:52):
like you know, like we really we're complaining about having
like this huge property portfoilo folio, like millions and million dollars,
and he's like, really, if this is our problem in
the world, like if this is really what we have
to deal with, like we're doing pretty well, Like it's fine,
We'll hold the discomfort, We'll move through it, It's going
(28:14):
to work out. And I thought, wow, that is so
funny because even I think a lot of people would think,
I just need to get to the seven figure business
and I'll never worry about money again. I just need
to get to the eight you know, figurbits, I just
need to get this. I just need to do this.
I just need to make that sale my business and
(28:34):
then I won't feel the imposter syndrome. But what you
don't realize is you will constantly feel imposter syndrome. You
will constantly, but it's not so much oh my god,
I'm here again. I also, you know, deeply believe in
like new level, new devil. And it's like when I'm
feeling it, I really lean into Wow, this is so
(28:55):
exciting because I must be up leveling my identity, like
I must be moving into a new life level. And
like changing the anxiety to excitement really helps her meet to.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That is such a valid point. I think people just
assume when you get to a certain stage, you're like
you're you're fine whatever. And I think our psyche is
looking for relief from challenges. In some way, our primal
brain is like we want the problems to be gone.
But it's just better and better challenges, right, like challenges,
(29:25):
but we never escape it. We're in the game till
the day we die. It's just the game is getting
higher quality problems basically.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, and that's well, it's funny going back to that
same problem. My my husband's like a while back, he's like, well,
why don't we just because we have like a large
property portfolio. And he was like, well, why don't we
just sell all our properties and we won't have the
stress of the properties. And then I'm like, but then
we don't have like a property portfolio. We don't have
like our future thing. And he's like, well, what.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Do you want from me?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I'm like and then I'm like, yeah, true, then
I'm gonna have the stress of not having that in
the future and not setting myself up in the future.
So it's like, what would you rather the stress and
discomfort now or the stress and discomfort in the future
for like the opposite thing. And I really had to
take that on and be like, and I personally use
(30:22):
a lot of nervous system regulation tools like EFT tapping, hypnosis, meditation,
and that sort of thing. And so I went and
did some EFT tapping and I felt so much better
and I was like, it's fine, I don't have to stress.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. That's such a good point too, because you can
feel an intense trigger and get yourself out of it.
And I think entrepreneurship trains you to be that way,
constantly getting uncomfortable, so you're constantly shifting and then you're
just you just get good at it. You get good
at pulling yourself out.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah. Yeah, and you have to be that's like, you
just have to get better at being uncomfortable pulling yourself out.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Let's chat about because I love that you did touch
on like that sort of like identity piece of like
a seven figure entrepreneur, And I'd really love to know
your thoughts on do you think money and success requires
a certain identity Like I know we touched on like
even the identities you need to be comfortable with the uncomfortable,
(31:24):
But what sort of like other identity pieces do we
need to be a successful, you know, seven figure entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Let's say, yeah, well, if we think about the consciousness
of a seven figure entrepreneur, that is the consciousness of abundance, right,
and so if we're trying to become that and we
are in scarcity twenty four to seven, or we are
super triggered around money, or we have hard programmed beliefs
that it's hard to come by or that it easy
(31:55):
kind of easy. Go you have it all, you lose
it all. If we're running that we're not a match
match and so you don't have to be perfect. We
all have limiting beliefs. You can take them along for
the ride at some point. It's just what's the predominant
system running? And if you're predominantly in scarcity and you're
trying to be abundant, you have to upgrade to that
(32:16):
consciousness in order to create it. Or you could spend
your whole life working your ass off and saving and
problem maybe get there. But why would you want to
do it that way? When we have the tools to
quantum li and so can you run us.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Through a couple more of those like what's the match?
What's like?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Because I find a lot of people like okay, cool,
yet well I want that, but I've never been that,
so I don't know what their you know, belief system is.
So obviously I love that you touched on like abundance
and like not having scarcity what are some other ones
that people can lock into if they don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, So I think a big piece of the seven
figure consciousness is visibility relationship to being seen in the world.
Seven figure consciousness takes up space. Seven figure consciousness knows
how to bring their triggers along for the ride. They
(33:19):
know how to get beyond themselves. They know how to
show up and serve. They can have fears and still
do the damn thing right. So so much of it
is the value that we bring to the world and
what we feel worthy receiving for it. And so if
we're hiding out, if we're playing small on some level
(33:39):
of our being, we also won't be a match to it.
So it's a stepping into that abundance mindset. B it's
feeling worthy to be in the world and feel comfortable
on some level of your being, to feel safe and
out there with your message, your voice, or your business.
Right like, visibility is required in pretty much every field
of that bigger consciousness. So those are kind of like
(34:00):
the two pieces I would really work on is the
mindset and the visibility piece, And I think if you
can kind of merge those together, I think you could
make a lot of moves in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So with the visibility piece, because I actually I do
this thing on TikTok where I call them like Pep
talked about I'll just like ran to my car, and
I literally did one this morning, and it was basically
talking about the fact that you know, we are so
scared of what people will think and the judgments and
(34:31):
the criticism that we will literally live in untapped life,
a duller life to make other people not talk about
us or like to feel comfortable. And basically I said,
like it kind of comes with the territory, like when
you are fully being yourself, when you are fully out there,
you're not, you know, dulling yourself. You're making yourself smaller.
(34:55):
You will have judgments and criticism because that is triggering
for other people who cannot do that, who cannot hold you.
So it's like we're always going to get criticized and
judge when we are being our bigger, most vivrant, you know,
best selves and being visible. So how would someone you know, like,
(35:19):
what do you kind of teach your clients of like
how to work through that? And someone who feels like
pretty much like debilitated with not moving forward because they
don't want to be visible.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, most of us are debilitated for a valid reason,
like most of us have experienced some kind of trauma
related to our appearance, related to our personality, or maybe
just in our family we felt like the black sheep
or something. So a lot of the times there's a
reason for that. But part of our journey here is
(35:52):
like the soul came here to live the other side
of the spectrum. You didn't sign up to come here
to be rejected, CRITICEDI and not experience the other side
of the coin, right, And so there's always a turning
point for the soul where when they get back out
there it's the opposite. And yeah, you are going to
be criticized on some level, but oftentimes it's really small.
(36:13):
Like I think when people come into their gifts and
build the brands and the businesses that they came here
to build, the majority of the time, it's not like
people are shitting on you every second of the day.
It's actually a pretty small percent. It's just that our
brains hyper fixate on it. We just usually take the
childhood bad experiences and we magnify the shit out of that.
(36:35):
But I don't know about you I mean, I'll get
Joe from here to some mother's basement shitting on my love.
It doesn't It literally does nothing, you know, So it's
like it's not actually that big of a percentage on
a day to day basis. Of course, once in a
while you get it and you're like, oh, ouch, like
that was that one didn't feel good? But it's actually
pretty rare if we look at on a day to
(36:57):
day you're right, when you're in the arena, you're gonna
get but every second of every it's not like that.
It's just not no, And so you just have to
program yourself to be like this actually is more connected
with money, abundance, property is like you have to drill
your brain to believe that that's going to be the
primary reality and that you have all of it through
(37:20):
your mind. You can control your reality.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yes, so true, And I think we do. We get
so hyper fixated on the negatives, on the judgments, on
the criticism, and do you think it's just about like constantly,
you know, changing those neuropathways and looking for the good,
looking for our community who resonates, looking for our passion
(37:46):
in this feels really good to show up in that way.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, I would even go a step deeper. Sometimes I
have gotten hate and it's been my best feedback. And
I'm not about the Joe's and my grandma basement people,
you know, not like a man. But sometimes I've gotten
really harsh feedback and I was like, damn, they're right,
I could have done that better.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
But delah.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Like, I think some of my my harsh feedback because
once in a while, like maybe a couple times a year,
I'm like, oh, fuck, like that shifted the way I
did something. Okay, cool, I'm nuance something the next time
I did a piece of content, Like there's value in it.
So I mean, unless it's just someone knocking you down
because they're miserable, but who gives a fuck about that?
(38:33):
Like that's not gonna in serving the people I came
here to serve. And yeah, like feedback sucks sometimes when
it's it's always gonna not be fun to hear. But
sometimes there's so much value there's gold in it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah. Well, even I've noticed some of the greatest criticism
have oh like just like the greatest judgments have really
showed me what I need to heal. Yeah, and like
where I need to look and be like, oh, fuck,
that person saying that about me? It did actually really hurt.
(39:04):
And so what's in that that I need to heal?
What's in that that I need to I guess like
reframed with myself because it's never actually about the other person,
And it has been very helpful to be like more
accepting of myself almost exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And so we don't get the opportunity to build that
muscle of thickness, or to have our wounds be magnified,
or to get feedback that actually might be helpful in
a very bad delivery if we're not in the arena
being seen, like, we miss out opportunity. So while our
brain is like this is we don't want this, we
don't want this, there's there's so much value in it
this for our you know.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, no, it's so true. And also it's like I
would rather be getting the criticisms and the judgments and
growing as a human and moving through that evolution then
like being this same person and being stuck in the
same you know, reality for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I hardcore agree. I actually think fearing criticism is more
painful than actually being in the experience of receiving it.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
There's been times where I was too scared to like
do something and the fear of it was just comparalyzing,
But then actually getting it once you're in it, you're like, Okay,
I can I can handle this. You know, it's not
like gonna kill me.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, It's literally just words.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
From a stranger on the internet.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
So so true. Well, Margot, I have just loved this chat.
Thank you for being so raw, so real and so
honest and giving us so many insights. Could you let
everyone know where they can find you, where they can
find your incredible activating you know, social media and how
to work with you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Of course you can buy me at Margot Miller a fish.
I just changed my handle on the ground so you
can find me there. And yeah, I welcome you into
my community.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Amazing. Do you have any last thoughts, comments, vibes or
even just like that person who is you know they
really resonate with, like I want to have it all
in life? What would your advice be for them?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Great? Where do you feel like, okay, so with your
community and having it all? Where do you think that
they're feeling the most stuck with that concept or even
in the process of manifesting it.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I feel like they think they need to pick, do
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like they
need to be like, oh, well, either get to be
like a career woman or I can be a stay
at home mum, or you know, I have to be
this or that. They're not understanding that. It's like they
can really create a reality where they, you know, can
have it all.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah. A lot of times when we think we have
to choose something, it's been modeled to us through our
lineage or by society. So we're often just using examples
of what we see on the outside of what's possible
for us. But here's the thing. Why on Earth would
we incarnate into this planet and have desires put on
(42:15):
our heart to not actualize them? Like from my perspective,
there would literally actually be no purpose of being here.
Like our desires are our north stars for exactly what
we're meant to have in life. So if you have
the desire to have it all, to have the career,
to be the mom, that's literally what you came here
to do. The reason people feel limited in it is
(42:39):
because that's their deepest desire and that's what they're here to.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Actualize and they're fearful of failing.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
That's all it is, because it's the thing that's closest
to their heart. So it's a north star. It's not
something to buy into. And just like we talked about,
it's about holding the vision and holding that long than
the self doubt and if you can do that, you'll
have it all.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I love that so much. Thank you. I appreciate your time.
I appreciate you. We'll have all the links in the
show notes. Thank you so much, Mago, thank you so
much for having me. Thank you so much for listening
to this episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If
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(43:30):
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