March 20, 2025 • 28 mins
There has been a lot of commentary surrounding the Matildas lately, some of it warranted, some of it not. So we have one of the great brains in women’s sport, Niav Owens on the show today, to tell us what is going on with everyone’s favourite team.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
And I'm Abby Jelmy and George. My goodness, isn't nice
to be back. We've already started with our ins and
outs of the season.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They went down well.
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I think they went down really really well. Thank you
so much for all of your feedback. We have taken
some of it on board.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And by that we mean none because we stand by
all of our decisions for now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
For now, we have the right to change them at
any time. I would say we.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Did change our format for the opening episode because we
were our own good Sports and we were just sort
of catching everyone up on how we've been. But don't
you worry. Good sport and bad sport is in. So
George hit me good sport of bad sport this week.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've got a bit of a combination of both of them.
Medi sport goldilocks just right. No, I'm calling it a
reformed sport. So I'm unsure if you know of or
if our dear listeners know the story of Ryan Peak.
So he is a former bikey. So at twenty one
years of age he was in a biking gang called
the Rebels look questionable history there did get convicted, served
(01:15):
five years in jail. While he was in jail, he
turned his life around because he started focusing on a
very particular thing golf.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh my god, yeah, golf.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Golf, and it completely turned his life around. He got
out of jail, started like actually training and putting in
loss of effort and this keiwi. He then won the
New Zealand Open only a few weeks ago and now
gets a direct path into the Open in Northern Ireland
in the middle of the year, so he can compete
against the best of the best of the best golfers. However,
(01:48):
because of his criminal history and his criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Record, so like, why do we keep giving these people
chances now?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
But this is a reform sport, reform sport. So he
still has to have a few meetings I'm assuming with
certain customs agents and see if he can actually travel
to compete in the Open. But what a story, what
a story from jail to the Open?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The only rebels I want to talk about on this podcast.
Are the Melbourne kind. They can't.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They don't exist in union, they don't exist any are
the only rebels.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I don't I mean good on him. I don't know
anything about him. He might be a guy that got
caught up with the wrong crowd.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exactly. What I love is that in his own words,
it's one hell of a story, one hell of a moment. Oh,
he's writing it. He's writing it. I know, I said,
sport docos around.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's riding it. What a motorbike? I don't know. I
don't know mine. If that, if that wasn't a good
sport for you, this will be okay, ash Barty, well
of the goodest sport.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Even Barbie dolls. We love this Barbie have done some
amazing things.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mattel. We are all about you. Remember the Mary Fowler doll?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We loved the hair world.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now, someone who I'm sure never had being a Barbie
on her vision board, yeah, ash Bardy, ash.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Bardy, Yeah, but it makes so much the Bardi Barbie
come on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The Bardi Barbie party.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Don't say that quickly, but she said, Never in my
wildest dreams did I think I'd be a Barbie myself. Well,
no shit, it's just an incredible experience to be a
part of. And PAUI said, when I first heard about it,
I thought it was so cool because it just came
out of the blue. I wasn't expecting anything. It's amazing.
I just can't believe it happened.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My because I've seen these Barbie dolls, and my only
note to Mattel is that I would have loved to
see Evon in her playing gear back in the day,
because I think what they've gone for is what she
was wearing when she one of the times she presented
Ash with his trophy. Yeah, I wanted to see her
in her full aletic prime. Yeah, prow West like her prime.
(03:58):
That's what I would have loved to have seen. Still
an amazing, amazing concept and definitely the good of sports
there in Yvonne and Ash. But yeah, that was a
one I thought missed opportunity. Or as someone did point
out to me, she's a doll. You could change her clothes,
you know, and I could just like I could maybe
do that. I was like, Okay, maybe that's what it is.
They're thinking. You can buy in multiple outfits.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I don't know for these limited edition options that they
can it be bringing out outfit changes for on I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Know potential potential Mattel call us.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Call us on our vision board. I'll give you ab
hot tip.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Imagine that Ash Barty never in my wildest dreams, Young
Jelmy and George, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What it'd be.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We mentioned, of course, the fact that Mary Fowler has
been a Barbie Doll. Yes, and that weaves beautifully into
our topic this week because the Matilda's found themselves in
headlines a lot of throughout the last months that were
we don't want to get into people, I think know
how we feel about criticism of women's sport that is
blatantly sexist.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We don't need it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're moving on from it, and what we do want
to provide though, is critical analysis of women's sport. We've
got one of the great brains of women's sport in Australia,
in ev Owens, coming on to take us a talk
through about what's happening with the Matildas.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, what is going on because as you and I
Jelmy have said very publicly, most recently, the Matildas aren't
above criticism. No, they're above disrespect, so we don't want
that in any way, shape or form. But something is
not right with our favorite team.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And we are on what feels like the eve of
an Asian Cup. Yeah, without a long term coach and
just without the recent success that we'd hope for for
our favorite Tillies.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So let's find out what's going to happen. Nev Owens
is coming up next.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There has been a lot of commentary surrounding them Tilda's
for a lot of this year, a lot of the
end of last year. Some of it warranted, some of
it most definitely not and a throwback to a time
that we had hoped did not exist anymore. We're not
going to focus on that though. What we are going
to focus on is what is going on with everyone's
favorite team. What is happening to the Matildas.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it is a big question because we are on
what feels like the eve of an Asian Cup, and
how often we get to see this side come together
because a lot of them, of course have club duty
and international duty. It feels like it's sneaking up and
we are still no closer to the answer of who's
going to be coaching our beloved tillies and what should
our expectations be and perhaps what is the change that
we need to see to this super experienced side that
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we all fell in love with at the World Cup.
If you weren't already on board, we're now all on board.
We're merched up. But what do we need to see happen?
Because they are underperforming and someone who never underperforms, no never,
who's joining us an expert commentator. You would have seen
her across of course SBS as well as.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now ten Now ten.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
She is the football commentator, the expert with the mostest.
She's also in my phone as Nestar BFF awesome legends.
It is Nevo and woo woe an introduction. Oh my god, Nevo,
welcome back to two Good Sports. You've also filled in
(07:24):
on this podcast a lot of times, so our listeners
would be so so familiar with you. Firstly, how you're feeling.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Look, I'm I'm all right. I'm just trying to fit
in with the footballers. So I did my ACL you know,
pre season January window and I'm three weeks postop now,
so I feel like that whole exposee about what ACL
recovery actually looks like it's going to be out, you know,
any day now. And do you know what it's going
to It's going to contain a few expleted.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, you go the I mean I've always said it,
you go the extra miles.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
She's a messagic coverage.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, she is a method journalist, so you best believe
that when those reports are coming out. Nevo speaking from
the Hut.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And now I've now decided I can diagnose that everyone
on the sideline as well. Like any player comes off
the field, I watched them come off and I'm like, oh,
you come down to me. Boys, I've got this. I
don't need to ask a physio what's wrong. I've looked,
I've seen the response. You come down to me.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm ready now, Nivo.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Usually when you have a guest on, you try to
hit them with a warm question to start with, or
something that's a little bit lighter. Most unfortunately, there doesn't
seem to be any light news or angles around the
Matilda's and their performances at the moment, most recently off
the she believes carp and it has to be said
that four nil match against Japan was one of the
most difficult games of sport I've ever watched. We had
(08:39):
one shot at goal that wasn't on target for a
whole game of football, and we were just technically outclassed. Yes,
is that an outlier, Nevo Or Is this where the
team's at at the moment?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I think that's where the team's at at the moment,
and I think there's a combination of reasons for that.
Right It's felt even more disappointing considering the fact we
are twelve months out from the Asian Cup and we
see Japan as one of those key oppositions, the defending
champs that we'll have to take on as near on
home soil in order to lift that trophy, which is
(09:12):
a really coveted trophy, especially because we're hosting the tournament
here in Australia. But I think there's a combination of
reasons why that tournament itself went so terribly in the US,
and it did.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Go really terribly Hei Neevo, because we lost everything, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah? We did.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, we lost all three games. We even lost the
last one to Columbia, which we kind of hoped maybe
that was going to be you know, we wouldn't get
something out of the tournament in that final class. But
it wasn't the tournament itself. Wasn't it the right kind
of time for the window for the Matilda's. Okay, it
was three games, maybe a two game window would have
been better. There was travel between each game and we
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know this is a team that already travels has more
air miles than any other international team in the world.
And even within the side, some players were coming in
on really heavy workload. Some are coming in in pre season,
like Mackenzie Arnold who had hardly any minutes under a belt.
So on the field it was a really tough balance
for Tommy Somani as the interim coach. But off the field,
(10:11):
I think that's where the main issues lie at the
moment and the main reason for the fact that by
all reports it really wasn't a very happy dressing room
throughout the She Believes Cup for tom Somani, hugely respected
by the group, still there in an interim capacity, which
leaves him pretty handstrung and look at leaves the girls
(10:34):
in a bit of limbo as well. There's also rumblings
about a disagreement between the players in Football Australia. They've
got this new CBA in play certain deals around that CBA.
It's a new agreement that parties themselves are still figuring
things out as they go. I just hope that as
they continue to figure that out, they can do it
together by talking and that things don't escalate from here.
(10:58):
But I think ultimately that whole picture meant that the
She Believes Cup was never going to be the successful
kind of tournament that we wanted to see twelve months
out from the Asian.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Cup, and it is difficult to head into a tournament
when there is so much noise around. And of course
there was the debate about whether Sam Kerr should still
be captain that was raging back here in Australia, and
we had former Matilda at least Keller Knight allude to
the fact that there's been a pay dispute.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
As you said, there's some disagreeance.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
With Football Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was this the.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Idea nevo that they were promised a certain amount or
it was so far less than what they'd previously been paid.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Was that the disconnect.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I think the disconnect in this case is probably drilling
down to kind of one part of the deal in particular,
and it's a conversation that will be ongoing between the Players'
Union and Football Australia. So yeah, I think I mean
KK would have a brilliant insight into what's going in
within the team. She's also involved with the Players' Union
(11:58):
as well. It's a conversation that is definitely ongoing and
I think it probably goes beyond just the monetary side
of things, and there are some big trust issues thrown
in there as well, and I think it's really important
obviously that the federation and this side, that the Federation
is supported to grow into the incredible team that they
(12:20):
are and as you guys said off the top, you know,
one of the most loved sporting teams in the country.
You just want that relationship between the Federation and the
Madildas to be a really strong one. And I think
right now it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I think that you've hit the nail on the head then, Evo,
because we love this team so much and it's an
entire country that loves them, not just like football fans
or soccer fans.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Which has never been more apparent given recent headlines and
the movement to support the Matilda's exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So when you say, Nevo, things like an unhappy dressing
room alarm bells are going off in my head because
you know these players so well, you know kind of
their mannerisms, and if they're enjoying their football or if
they're not, I mean, how do we turn it around.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I think having that new head coach in charge will
be a really big part of that, building that bridge
between you know, the organization and the team and having
a really clear direction moving forward. So I think who
that head coach be is a super important one to
get that right. And we need that head coach to
(13:24):
take the whole pathways program, the whole pyramid, if you like,
under their wing and look at this as one part
of the whole Japan for example, and we've seen the
kind of football they played at the She Believes Cup.
They have a one hundred year plan in place, and
they're about a quarter of the way into that one
hundred year plan, and they have things like a national
(13:46):
setup from under fourteens, under fifteenth, under sixteenth, under seventeens,
I go on all the way through to the national team.
They're really clear on their strategy, they're clear on the
their ideology, and it's all part of one system that
is pushing in the same direction.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I just see Japan having one hundred year plan in
Australia being Phoebean friends when she's like, we don't have
a plan the beginning of a plane and they've got
a century of success that's mapped out for them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That doesn't make for good pries.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We saw that as well with like the success of
Spain at the most recent World Cup, right like that
was because of all of their junior development programs and
we could see that in full effect.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They had disarray, yes, totally.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
But conversely then we also saw that even within a
camp itself that was at odds with the coach and
the coach putting it lightly, players were able to come
together and you know, play some really beautiful football and search,
like strive for that goal that they were searching for
as a team, and they were still able to do it.
So look, forget everything. I just said, We're going to
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be fine because Bain showed us it can still be done.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But nevo, if we're calling out and eating stability and
change and to know who that head coach is, but
why is it taking so long?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It's a million dollar question. Ads. I think there's been
a lot of talk around Joe Montemurro, for example. He's
an Australian coach and Australian footballer. He's currently in charge
of one of the best women's teams in the world
in Lyon. That's where Ellie Carpenter plays her football in France,
and Joe's been in Europe for the last seven years
or so. He's a former Neuve coach. He won titles
(15:27):
at Arsenal in the WSL. He is a really strong option.
He is currently what you know, halfway through if you like.
At the end of this season, he'll be halfway through
a two year contract with Lyon. So maybe, and this
is complete conjecture on my part, maybe they're waiting for
the end of that first season of his contract, the
(15:48):
end of the Champions League, which would be you know,
late May, and maybe then Football Australia and Olympic Leona
can come to some kind of an agreement for them
to part ways and Joe to come home, and that
could be a reason for the delay. There are other
options as well. Tanya Oxtorby, for example, she's the current
coach of Northern Ireland. She's a former assistant coach of Chelsea.
(16:11):
Another really beautiful human. She's doing a really great job
with Northern Ireland at the moment. They missed out on
qualifying for the Women's Euros this year but got to
the playoff stage. I think they're probably two of the
strongest options that we have available. Katy Stoney is a
coach that I love, but she's just signed with the
Canadian women's national team, so she's no longer an option
(16:32):
that's on the table. So maybe it is a question
of contracts that are already in place, waiting for those
contracts to get to a certain point where perhaps they
can be bought out. I mean Joe Montemiro, if he
is the target, he was available pre Olympics last year,
coaching that I think could definitely be an accusation that's
(16:57):
leveled at them. You know, there were rumors at Tony
Aten was looking at other options for himself overseas that
he wanted out of the end of his contract. There
were other coaches who were available at that time. Maybe
maybe we moved too slowly in that moment and now
we're paying the price of that and having to wait.
If indeed Joe is the preferred candidate for a time
(17:20):
that suits him and suits the club that he signed with.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And that we don't have to bring out the checkbook
to pay him out of a current contract.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, two things that we love on this podcast Nevo
number one when people are described as beautiful humans. Yes,
like you did about that already. I'm like, wow, we
should write we should get her.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
She sounds the same thing about Joe Montemiroz agree. Both
Joe and Tanya were part of the Opti Sport commentary
team for the Women's World Cup last year and it
was such a joy working with them. Both their insights
into the game, the way they sowed a game and
described it. Just sitting with them and watching game of
football was a joy. Look, I'm happy to jump on
(18:02):
the bandwagon for either of them. I'm sure there are
other incredible coaches in Europe that don't have that Ossie
passport and so perhaps we from outside of the box
aren't looking at as closely. For example, I think international
coaching experience has always been a real focus for Football
Australia and Joe Montemuro doesn't have that international coaching experience.
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He's coached PLUB teams and he's done it throughout Europe
at some of the biggest clubs in Europe, but he
hasn't coached the national side before.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He also that he has that rapport with the players
because Nevo. I think back to you and I covering
when it was then known the W League as sideline
commentators and hosts, and Joe Montemuro correct me if I'm wrong,
but I'm pretty sure he was the coach of Melbourne
Victory for a whole lot of time when I was
at least there, and so him and Steph Catley know
each other very very well. And the other thing I
(18:54):
was going to say never on this podcast that we
love so we love people being described as beautiful humans.
We also love so I am upset with best chat
and I love that you've taken us through all of this.
One thing I would love for you, if you feel
en up to it, to speculate a little bit further
on what is happening with Samantha Kerr, Everyone's favorite Matilda's player.
(19:15):
When is she going to come back? Is she ever
going to come back after this ACL injury? And if
she does come back, will she be wearing the captain's armband.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I think she is definitely going to come back, Absolutely
she is, and yes, it is taking longer than any
of us would have hoped, and certainly I'm sure than
she would have hoped. We've heard a little bit from
Chelsea in the last couple of months. We know that
there's been some complications with her recovery, so we know
those lays has taken place. Chelsea have said they're expecting
(19:47):
a late said maybe March return in the WSL. We
know she was back kicking a ball in January, which
feels like a big win. Back training with the team
in February, and we're seeing some of her teammates post
sup acute pictures of how soaps they are to have
her back in the setup. I think also, she's thirty one.
As her second ACL, she has had a whole heap
(20:09):
on her plate in the last twelve months, so taking
the time that she needs to be in the right
place to make that comeback is super important as well.
From a captaincy perspective, George, I reckon that comes down
to who the new coach is. Ultimately, that is a
decision that that new coach will make. I think Steph
Catley has done a very good job in her absence.
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I don't mind the idea just me personally as a punker.
I don't mind the idea as a fan of your striker,
the most important player in your team in terms of
scoring those goals. Actually just being able to firmly focus
on banging the ball into the back of the net
and leave the captaincy to someone further down the park,
you know, holding midfield as traditionally make great captains, maybe
(20:54):
a defender and let Sammy focus on scoring goal after
goal for her national I don't mind that. But ultimately
that's going to be decision that the new coach comes
in and the new coach will make and when Sam returns,
I really hope the new coach is there so in
you know, a nice clear way that decision can become
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to as a team, as a leadership group, and they
can announce it together.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think clarity is certainly what fans are looking for,
and the fact that Football Australia have come out time
and time again saying they're going to back Sam. It's
also what does Sam want given what she's been through?
Is the captain see something that she even wants when
she wants to? Just like I agree with you entirely, Nevo.
Just Steph Catley's an amazing job. Let Sam Kerr focus
on being Sam Kerr. But she's not the fix all.
(21:42):
She's obviously one of the greatest women's players that we've
ever seen in football, but her returning to the side
isn't going to fix the Connider magic.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Sal No, it's certainly not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I guess the final question for you, Nevo, are we
going to see a changing of the guard of some
of these names and faces that we've loved before the
Asian Cup? Or is the Asian Cup going to be
our chance potentially to fare well a few of these
players in what needs to be a bit of a
changing of the guard.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I think I see the Asian Cup as exactly that
ads that chance to farewell a number of the players
who have become household names over the last decade in Australia.
I think for a number of those older players, that
will be the last major tournament that we see them play,
and then we'll see that ushering in of the new
(22:30):
generation that Emma Hayes in the US is currently doing
and doing with huge success. Even though Japan won that
she believes Cup. It's been incredible the way that she
is moving those pieces on the chess board and still
finding ways to make that team successful throughout that transitions.
I think that is a really cool kind of prototype. Obviously,
(22:51):
the depth that they have in the US and the
structures they have over there are very different to what
we have here. But yeah, I think that changing of
the guard is coming. I think perhaps we will see
one or two older players drop out pre this Asian
Cup when the new coach comes in. But the length
of time that new coach has to work with the
team will really determine how much change they can make.
(23:14):
If they get two international windows with the team pre
Asian Cup, how many wholesale changes can you genuinely make
in that time or do you have to go? Do
you know what? These are the cards I'm dealt. I've
got to get the most i can out of these
cards because of the time frame I'm working within. But yeah,
I think that Asian Cup will probably be a last
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major tournament for some of those players that we have
very genuinely grown to love and feel so fond of
over a decade long period where they've all played such
a huge part in the growth of this team.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh nevo, I mean, I answer to Mary Fowler, such
as my single white female obsession with her. So you
are one hundred right there and that is how you
do it fair critical analysis of women in sport, Neva Owens,
you are a superstar. Thank you again for joining us
on Two Good Sports before you go, very pertinent question,
(24:09):
because it's not just football that you love. You also
obviously die hard legie. Why will the Brisbane Broncos win
the premiership in four?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's breaking up.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I've already looked, George, and you just won't surprise you
at when the Broncos play the nights. Yeah, season it's
in you. You need to come to Chew on the road.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh, Neva will see you in Newcastle. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And a reminders she believes in what it better be
critical analysis.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That is what we believe in at Two Good Sports.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nevo.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's always a.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Pleasure and of course we'll speak to you throughout the season.
Thank you so much for your time and rest up.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Love chatting with you. Both speak soon.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh we love Nevo.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I tell you what, John, I always feel smarter after
talking to that woman.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was just dum and that I need to learn more,
but she's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Led a details, you know what I mean. I'm like, oh, oh,
thank goodness, she's imparted her wisdom. She is using that
gigantic brain for good. What a segwe because I am
going to use my gigantic brain.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The mind palace, as you like to call it, my mind.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Palace, my mind palace. And I've gone down a couple
of staircases, I've rooted around in the dungeon, and I'm
in a drawer. Now what I have found is this
lovely fun fact.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm ready. Are you ready with that intro? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So tell me. You know, we've not met a tennis
tournament that we've not liked, Let's be honest. And part
of that you may not have actually wondered this before.
I hadn't before I'd found this fun fact. But there's
a lot of tennis balls that are used in a
tournament correct correct, correct? What happens to them when the
tournament ends? Where do they go? Well? I have the answer,
(25:49):
the mind palaces face.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
This is already a sensational fact.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So apparently Wimbledon so obviously one of the biggest slams
that exists. They donate fifty five thousand tennis balls to
make cozy homes for mice to keep them safe from
the rain. Such a vistaal reaction from you, and it's
(26:16):
everything I've ever wanted. Listener, Jellmy has thrown herself from
her chair and hit her elbow on the way out. Yes,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Look at this photo.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh my god, Listener for you, I am showing jel
me a photo of three mice, gorgeous little mice trapped inside.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's not the visual. I had tiny green little houses.
But all they've done is cut a hole in the ball.
Oh my god, that's adorable because.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Tennis balls hollow, obviously, and they've cut little holes in them,
and then they put them on little spikes in different
farmland or wherever. They're like the mice need house.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yess, that is adorable.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Fifty five thousand just from Wimbledon. So if we all
did this, I mean, do we need another mice play?
I'm not sure, but here's a way that you could
just save the cute little critics.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I was thinking, like for people, for people, and like
somehow we're using it in the walls of homes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, it could be good. I have also seen that
people do repurpose them as furniture for actual humans too,
So houses for mice and furniture for people. You're welcome,
You are welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That is what we're looking for here on Two Good Sports.
That is a fun.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We will provide the images online because they're very cute.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But it's also making.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Me like now scared of every tennis ball that I
have lining around in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It might be like someone.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Mouusis, yeah, yeah, they've recognized that's where they live. Now.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Sensational from you, George, But what an episode has been. Again,
thank you Denied for joining us and what we love.
Critical analysis of women's sport. That's what you'll find here.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thank you for listening to Two Good Sports. This has
been an iHeart production. We'll catch you next week. But
until there be a good sport.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
The classical f
Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast. There were innerie people.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This land was never seated, always was, always will.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Be higher and welcome to two Good Sports sports news
told differently. I'm Georgie Tunne.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And I'm Abby Jelmy and George. My goodness, isn't nice
to be back. We've already started with our ins and
outs of the season.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They went down well.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I think they went down really really well. Thank you
so much for all of your feedback. We have taken
some of it on board.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And by that we mean none because we stand by
all of our decisions for now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
For now, we have the right to change them at
any time. I would say we.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Did change our format for the opening episode because we
were our own good Sports and we were just sort
of catching everyone up on how we've been. But don't
you worry. Good sport and bad sport is in. So
George hit me good sport of bad sport this week.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've got a bit of a combination of both of them.
Medi sport goldilocks just right. No, I'm calling it a
reformed sport. So I'm unsure if you know of or
if our dear listeners know the story of Ryan Peak.
So he is a former bikey. So at twenty one
years of age he was in a biking gang called
the Rebels look questionable history there did get convicted, served
(01:15):
five years in jail. While he was in jail, he
turned his life around because he started focusing on a
very particular thing golf.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh my god, yeah, golf.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Golf, and it completely turned his life around. He got
out of jail, started like actually training and putting in
loss of effort and this keiwi. He then won the
New Zealand Open only a few weeks ago and now
gets a direct path into the Open in Northern Ireland
in the middle of the year, so he can compete
against the best of the best of the best golfers. However,
(01:48):
because of his criminal history and his criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Record, so like, why do we keep giving these people
chances now?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
But this is a reform sport, reform sport. So he
still has to have a few meetings I'm assuming with
certain customs agents and see if he can actually travel
to compete in the Open. But what a story, what
a story from jail to the Open?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The only rebels I want to talk about on this podcast.
Are the Melbourne kind. They can't.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They don't exist in union, they don't exist any are
the only rebels.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I don't I mean good on him. I don't know
anything about him. He might be a guy that got
caught up with the wrong crowd.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exactly. What I love is that in his own words,
it's one hell of a story, one hell of a moment. Oh,
he's writing it. He's writing it. I know, I said,
sport docos around.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's riding it. What a motorbike? I don't know. I
don't know mine. If that, if that wasn't a good
sport for you, this will be okay, ash Barty, well
of the goodest sport.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Even Barbie dolls. We love this Barbie have done some
amazing things.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mattel. We are all about you. Remember the Mary Fowler doll?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We loved the hair world.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Now, someone who I'm sure never had being a Barbie
on her vision board, yeah, ash Bardy, ash.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Bardy, Yeah, but it makes so much the Bardi Barbie
come on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The Bardi Barbie party.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Don't say that quickly, but she said, Never in my
wildest dreams did I think I'd be a Barbie myself. Well,
no shit, it's just an incredible experience to be a
part of. And PAUI said, when I first heard about it,
I thought it was so cool because it just came
out of the blue. I wasn't expecting anything. It's amazing.
I just can't believe it happened.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My because I've seen these Barbie dolls, and my only
note to Mattel is that I would have loved to
see Evon in her playing gear back in the day,
because I think what they've gone for is what she
was wearing when she one of the times she presented
Ash with his trophy. Yeah, I wanted to see her
in her full aletic prime. Yeah, prow West like her prime.
(03:58):
That's what I would have loved to have seen. Still
an amazing, amazing concept and definitely the good of sports
there in Yvonne and Ash. But yeah, that was a
one I thought missed opportunity. Or as someone did point
out to me, she's a doll. You could change her clothes,
you know, and I could just like I could maybe
do that. I was like, Okay, maybe that's what it is.
They're thinking. You can buy in multiple outfits.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I don't know for these limited edition options that they
can it be bringing out outfit changes for on I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Know potential potential Mattel call us.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Call us on our vision board. I'll give you ab
hot tip.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Imagine that Ash Barty never in my wildest dreams, Young
Jelmy and George, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What it'd be.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We mentioned, of course, the fact that Mary Fowler has
been a Barbie Doll. Yes, and that weaves beautifully into
our topic this week because the Matilda's found themselves in
headlines a lot of throughout the last months that were
we don't want to get into people, I think know
how we feel about criticism of women's sport that is
blatantly sexist.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We don't need it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're moving on from it, and what we do want
to provide though, is critical analysis of women's sport. We've
got one of the great brains of women's sport in Australia,
in ev Owens, coming on to take us a talk
through about what's happening with the Matildas.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, what is going on because as you and I
Jelmy have said very publicly, most recently, the Matildas aren't
above criticism. No, they're above disrespect, so we don't want
that in any way, shape or form. But something is
not right with our favorite team.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And we are on what feels like the eve of
an Asian Cup. Yeah, without a long term coach and
just without the recent success that we'd hope for for
our favorite Tillies.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So let's find out what's going to happen. Nev Owens
is coming up next.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There has been a lot of commentary surrounding them Tilda's
for a lot of this year, a lot of the
end of last year. Some of it warranted, some of
it most definitely not and a throwback to a time
that we had hoped did not exist anymore. We're not
going to focus on that though. What we are going
to focus on is what is going on with everyone's
favorite team. What is happening to the Matildas.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it is a big question because we are on
what feels like the eve of an Asian Cup, and
how often we get to see this side come together
because a lot of them, of course have club duty
and international duty. It feels like it's sneaking up and
we are still no closer to the answer of who's
going to be coaching our beloved tillies and what should
our expectations be and perhaps what is the change that
we need to see to this super experienced side that
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we all fell in love with at the World Cup.
If you weren't already on board, we're now all on board.
We're merched up. But what do we need to see happen?
Because they are underperforming and someone who never underperforms, no never,
who's joining us an expert commentator. You would have seen
her across of course SBS as well as.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now ten Now ten.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
She is the football commentator, the expert with the mostest.
She's also in my phone as Nestar BFF awesome legends.
It is Nevo and woo woe an introduction. Oh my god, Nevo,
welcome back to two Good Sports. You've also filled in
(07:24):
on this podcast a lot of times, so our listeners
would be so so familiar with you. Firstly, how you're feeling.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Look, I'm I'm all right. I'm just trying to fit
in with the footballers. So I did my ACL you know,
pre season January window and I'm three weeks postop now,
so I feel like that whole exposee about what ACL
recovery actually looks like it's going to be out, you know,
any day now. And do you know what it's going
to It's going to contain a few expleted.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, you go the I mean I've always said it,
you go the extra miles.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
She's a messagic coverage.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, she is a method journalist, so you best believe
that when those reports are coming out. Nevo speaking from
the Hut.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And now I've now decided I can diagnose that everyone
on the sideline as well. Like any player comes off
the field, I watched them come off and I'm like, oh,
you come down to me. Boys, I've got this. I
don't need to ask a physio what's wrong. I've looked,
I've seen the response. You come down to me.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm ready now, Nivo.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Usually when you have a guest on, you try to
hit them with a warm question to start with, or
something that's a little bit lighter. Most unfortunately, there doesn't
seem to be any light news or angles around the
Matilda's and their performances at the moment, most recently off
the she believes carp and it has to be said
that four nil match against Japan was one of the
most difficult games of sport I've ever watched. We had
(08:39):
one shot at goal that wasn't on target for a
whole game of football, and we were just technically outclassed. Yes,
is that an outlier, Nevo Or Is this where the
team's at at the moment?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I think that's where the team's at at the moment,
and I think there's a combination of reasons for that.
Right It's felt even more disappointing considering the fact we
are twelve months out from the Asian Cup and we
see Japan as one of those key oppositions, the defending
champs that we'll have to take on as near on
home soil in order to lift that trophy, which is
(09:12):
a really coveted trophy, especially because we're hosting the tournament
here in Australia. But I think there's a combination of
reasons why that tournament itself went so terribly in the US,
and it did.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Go really terribly Hei Neevo, because we lost everything, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah? We did.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, we lost all three games. We even lost the
last one to Columbia, which we kind of hoped maybe
that was going to be you know, we wouldn't get
something out of the tournament in that final class. But
it wasn't the tournament itself. Wasn't it the right kind
of time for the window for the Matilda's. Okay, it
was three games, maybe a two game window would have
been better. There was travel between each game and we
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know this is a team that already travels has more
air miles than any other international team in the world.
And even within the side, some players were coming in
on really heavy workload. Some are coming in in pre season,
like Mackenzie Arnold who had hardly any minutes under a belt.
So on the field it was a really tough balance
for Tommy Somani as the interim coach. But off the field,
(10:11):
I think that's where the main issues lie at the
moment and the main reason for the fact that by
all reports it really wasn't a very happy dressing room
throughout the She Believes Cup for tom Somani, hugely respected
by the group, still there in an interim capacity, which
leaves him pretty handstrung and look at leaves the girls
(10:34):
in a bit of limbo as well. There's also rumblings
about a disagreement between the players in Football Australia. They've
got this new CBA in play certain deals around that CBA.
It's a new agreement that parties themselves are still figuring
things out as they go. I just hope that as
they continue to figure that out, they can do it
together by talking and that things don't escalate from here.
(10:58):
But I think ultimately that whole picture meant that the
She Believes Cup was never going to be the successful
kind of tournament that we wanted to see twelve months
out from the Asian.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Cup, and it is difficult to head into a tournament
when there is so much noise around. And of course
there was the debate about whether Sam Kerr should still
be captain that was raging back here in Australia, and
we had former Matilda at least Keller Knight allude to
the fact that there's been a pay dispute.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
As you said, there's some disagreeance.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
With Football Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was this the.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Idea nevo that they were promised a certain amount or
it was so far less than what they'd previously been paid.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Was that the disconnect.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I think the disconnect in this case is probably drilling
down to kind of one part of the deal in particular,
and it's a conversation that will be ongoing between the Players'
Union and Football Australia. So yeah, I think I mean
KK would have a brilliant insight into what's going in
within the team. She's also involved with the Players' Union
(11:58):
as well. It's a conversation that is definitely ongoing and
I think it probably goes beyond just the monetary side
of things, and there are some big trust issues thrown
in there as well, and I think it's really important
obviously that the federation and this side, that the Federation
is supported to grow into the incredible team that they
(12:20):
are and as you guys said off the top, you know,
one of the most loved sporting teams in the country.
You just want that relationship between the Federation and the
Madildas to be a really strong one. And I think
right now it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I think that you've hit the nail on the head then, Evo,
because we love this team so much and it's an
entire country that loves them, not just like football fans
or soccer fans.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Which has never been more apparent given recent headlines and
the movement to support the Matilda's exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So when you say, Nevo, things like an unhappy dressing
room alarm bells are going off in my head because
you know these players so well, you know kind of
their mannerisms, and if they're enjoying their football or if
they're not, I mean, how do we turn it around.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I think having that new head coach in charge will
be a really big part of that, building that bridge
between you know, the organization and the team and having
a really clear direction moving forward. So I think who
that head coach be is a super important one to
get that right. And we need that head coach to
(13:24):
take the whole pathways program, the whole pyramid, if you like,
under their wing and look at this as one part
of the whole Japan for example, and we've seen the
kind of football they played at the She Believes Cup.
They have a one hundred year plan in place, and
they're about a quarter of the way into that one
hundred year plan, and they have things like a national
(13:46):
setup from under fourteens, under fifteenth, under sixteenth, under seventeens,
I go on all the way through to the national team.
They're really clear on their strategy, they're clear on the
their ideology, and it's all part of one system that
is pushing in the same direction.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I just see Japan having one hundred year plan in
Australia being Phoebean friends when she's like, we don't have
a plan the beginning of a plane and they've got
a century of success that's mapped out for them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That doesn't make for good pries.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We saw that as well with like the success of
Spain at the most recent World Cup, right like that
was because of all of their junior development programs and
we could see that in full effect.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They had disarray, yes, totally.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
But conversely then we also saw that even within a
camp itself that was at odds with the coach and
the coach putting it lightly, players were able to come
together and you know, play some really beautiful football and search,
like strive for that goal that they were searching for
as a team, and they were still able to do it.
So look, forget everything. I just said, We're going to
(14:51):
be fine because Bain showed us it can still be done.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But nevo, if we're calling out and eating stability and
change and to know who that head coach is, but
why is it taking so long?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It's a million dollar question. Ads. I think there's been
a lot of talk around Joe Montemurro, for example. He's
an Australian coach and Australian footballer. He's currently in charge
of one of the best women's teams in the world
in Lyon. That's where Ellie Carpenter plays her football in France,
and Joe's been in Europe for the last seven years
or so. He's a former Neuve coach. He won titles
(15:27):
at Arsenal in the WSL. He is a really strong option.
He is currently what you know, halfway through if you like.
At the end of this season, he'll be halfway through
a two year contract with Lyon. So maybe, and this
is complete conjecture on my part, maybe they're waiting for
the end of that first season of his contract, the
(15:48):
end of the Champions League, which would be you know,
late May, and maybe then Football Australia and Olympic Leona
can come to some kind of an agreement for them
to part ways and Joe to come home, and that
could be a reason for the delay. There are other
options as well. Tanya Oxtorby, for example, she's the current
coach of Northern Ireland. She's a former assistant coach of Chelsea.
(16:11):
Another really beautiful human. She's doing a really great job
with Northern Ireland at the moment. They missed out on
qualifying for the Women's Euros this year but got to
the playoff stage. I think they're probably two of the
strongest options that we have available. Katy Stoney is a
coach that I love, but she's just signed with the
Canadian women's national team, so she's no longer an option
(16:32):
that's on the table. So maybe it is a question
of contracts that are already in place, waiting for those
contracts to get to a certain point where perhaps they
can be bought out. I mean Joe Montemiro, if he
is the target, he was available pre Olympics last year,
coaching that I think could definitely be an accusation that's
(16:57):
leveled at them. You know, there were rumors at Tony
Aten was looking at other options for himself overseas that
he wanted out of the end of his contract. There
were other coaches who were available at that time. Maybe
maybe we moved too slowly in that moment and now
we're paying the price of that and having to wait.
If indeed Joe is the preferred candidate for a time
(17:20):
that suits him and suits the club that he signed with.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And that we don't have to bring out the checkbook
to pay him out of a current contract.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, two things that we love on this podcast Nevo
number one when people are described as beautiful humans. Yes,
like you did about that already. I'm like, wow, we
should write we should get her.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
She sounds the same thing about Joe Montemiroz agree. Both
Joe and Tanya were part of the Opti Sport commentary
team for the Women's World Cup last year and it
was such a joy working with them. Both their insights
into the game, the way they sowed a game and
described it. Just sitting with them and watching game of
football was a joy. Look, I'm happy to jump on
(18:02):
the bandwagon for either of them. I'm sure there are
other incredible coaches in Europe that don't have that Ossie
passport and so perhaps we from outside of the box
aren't looking at as closely. For example, I think international
coaching experience has always been a real focus for Football
Australia and Joe Montemuro doesn't have that international coaching experience.
(18:26):
He's coached PLUB teams and he's done it throughout Europe
at some of the biggest clubs in Europe, but he
hasn't coached the national side before.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He also that he has that rapport with the players
because Nevo. I think back to you and I covering
when it was then known the W League as sideline
commentators and hosts, and Joe Montemuro correct me if I'm wrong,
but I'm pretty sure he was the coach of Melbourne
Victory for a whole lot of time when I was
at least there, and so him and Steph Catley know
each other very very well. And the other thing I
(18:54):
was going to say never on this podcast that we
love so we love people being described as beautiful humans.
We also love so I am upset with best chat
and I love that you've taken us through all of this.
One thing I would love for you, if you feel
en up to it, to speculate a little bit further
on what is happening with Samantha Kerr, Everyone's favorite Matilda's player.
(19:15):
When is she going to come back? Is she ever
going to come back after this ACL injury? And if
she does come back, will she be wearing the captain's armband.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I think she is definitely going to come back, Absolutely
she is, and yes, it is taking longer than any
of us would have hoped, and certainly I'm sure than
she would have hoped. We've heard a little bit from
Chelsea in the last couple of months. We know that
there's been some complications with her recovery, so we know
those lays has taken place. Chelsea have said they're expecting
(19:47):
a late said maybe March return in the WSL. We
know she was back kicking a ball in January, which
feels like a big win. Back training with the team
in February, and we're seeing some of her teammates post
sup acute pictures of how soaps they are to have
her back in the setup. I think also, she's thirty one.
As her second ACL, she has had a whole heap
(20:09):
on her plate in the last twelve months, so taking
the time that she needs to be in the right
place to make that comeback is super important as well.
From a captaincy perspective, George, I reckon that comes down
to who the new coach is. Ultimately, that is a
decision that that new coach will make. I think Steph
Catley has done a very good job in her absence.
(20:31):
I don't mind the idea just me personally as a punker.
I don't mind the idea as a fan of your striker,
the most important player in your team in terms of
scoring those goals. Actually just being able to firmly focus
on banging the ball into the back of the net
and leave the captaincy to someone further down the park,
you know, holding midfield as traditionally make great captains, maybe
(20:54):
a defender and let Sammy focus on scoring goal after
goal for her national I don't mind that. But ultimately
that's going to be decision that the new coach comes
in and the new coach will make and when Sam returns,
I really hope the new coach is there so in
you know, a nice clear way that decision can become
(21:16):
to as a team, as a leadership group, and they
can announce it together.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think clarity is certainly what fans are looking for,
and the fact that Football Australia have come out time
and time again saying they're going to back Sam. It's
also what does Sam want given what she's been through?
Is the captain see something that she even wants when
she wants to? Just like I agree with you entirely, Nevo.
Just Steph Catley's an amazing job. Let Sam Kerr focus
on being Sam Kerr. But she's not the fix all.
(21:42):
She's obviously one of the greatest women's players that we've
ever seen in football, but her returning to the side
isn't going to fix the Connider magic.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Sal No, it's certainly not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I guess the final question for you, Nevo, are we
going to see a changing of the guard of some
of these names and faces that we've loved before the
Asian Cup? Or is the Asian Cup going to be
our chance potentially to fare well a few of these
players in what needs to be a bit of a
changing of the guard.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I think I see the Asian Cup as exactly that
ads that chance to farewell a number of the players
who have become household names over the last decade in Australia.
I think for a number of those older players, that
will be the last major tournament that we see them play,
and then we'll see that ushering in of the new
(22:30):
generation that Emma Hayes in the US is currently doing
and doing with huge success. Even though Japan won that
she believes Cup. It's been incredible the way that she
is moving those pieces on the chess board and still
finding ways to make that team successful throughout that transitions.
I think that is a really cool kind of prototype. Obviously,
(22:51):
the depth that they have in the US and the
structures they have over there are very different to what
we have here. But yeah, I think that changing of
the guard is coming. I think perhaps we will see
one or two older players drop out pre this Asian
Cup when the new coach comes in. But the length
of time that new coach has to work with the
team will really determine how much change they can make.
(23:14):
If they get two international windows with the team pre
Asian Cup, how many wholesale changes can you genuinely make
in that time or do you have to go? Do
you know what? These are the cards I'm dealt. I've
got to get the most i can out of these
cards because of the time frame I'm working within. But yeah,
I think that Asian Cup will probably be a last
(23:35):
major tournament for some of those players that we have
very genuinely grown to love and feel so fond of
over a decade long period where they've all played such
a huge part in the growth of this team.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh nevo, I mean, I answer to Mary Fowler, such
as my single white female obsession with her. So you
are one hundred right there and that is how you
do it fair critical analysis of women in sport, Neva Owens,
you are a superstar. Thank you again for joining us
on Two Good Sports before you go, very pertinent question,
(24:09):
because it's not just football that you love. You also
obviously die hard legie. Why will the Brisbane Broncos win
the premiership in four?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's breaking up.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I've already looked, George, and you just won't surprise you
at when the Broncos play the nights. Yeah, season it's
in you. You need to come to Chew on the road.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh, Neva will see you in Newcastle. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And a reminders she believes in what it better be
critical analysis.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That is what we believe in at Two Good Sports.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nevo.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's always a.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Pleasure and of course we'll speak to you throughout the season.
Thank you so much for your time and rest up.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Love chatting with you. Both speak soon.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh we love Nevo.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I tell you what, John, I always feel smarter after
talking to that woman.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was just dum and that I need to learn more,
but she's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Led a details, you know what I mean. I'm like, oh, oh,
thank goodness, she's imparted her wisdom. She is using that
gigantic brain for good. What a segwe because I am
going to use my gigantic brain.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The mind palace, as you like to call it, my mind.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Palace, my mind palace. And I've gone down a couple
of staircases, I've rooted around in the dungeon, and I'm
in a drawer. Now what I have found is this
lovely fun fact.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm ready. Are you ready with that intro? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So tell me. You know, we've not met a tennis
tournament that we've not liked, Let's be honest. And part
of that you may not have actually wondered this before.
I hadn't before I'd found this fun fact. But there's
a lot of tennis balls that are used in a
tournament correct correct, correct? What happens to them when the
tournament ends? Where do they go? Well? I have the answer,
(25:49):
the mind palaces face.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
This is already a sensational fact.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So apparently Wimbledon so obviously one of the biggest slams
that exists. They donate fifty five thousand tennis balls to
make cozy homes for mice to keep them safe from
the rain. Such a vistaal reaction from you, and it's
(26:16):
everything I've ever wanted. Listener, Jellmy has thrown herself from
her chair and hit her elbow on the way out. Yes,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Look at this photo.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh my god, Listener for you, I am showing jel
me a photo of three mice, gorgeous little mice trapped inside.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's not the visual. I had tiny green little houses.
But all they've done is cut a hole in the ball.
Oh my god, that's adorable because.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Tennis balls hollow, obviously, and they've cut little holes in them,
and then they put them on little spikes in different
farmland or wherever. They're like the mice need house.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yess, that is adorable.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Fifty five thousand just from Wimbledon. So if we all
did this, I mean, do we need another mice play?
I'm not sure, but here's a way that you could
just save the cute little critics.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I was thinking, like for people, for people, and like
somehow we're using it in the walls of homes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, it could be good. I have also seen that
people do repurpose them as furniture for actual humans too,
So houses for mice and furniture for people. You're welcome,
You are welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That is what we're looking for here on Two Good Sports.
That is a fun.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We will provide the images online because they're very cute.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But it's also making.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Me like now scared of every tennis ball that I
have lining around in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It might be like someone.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Mouusis, yeah, yeah, they've recognized that's where they live. Now.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Sensational from you, George, But what an episode has been. Again,
thank you Denied for joining us and what we love.
Critical analysis of women's sport. That's what you'll find here.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thank you for listening to Two Good Sports. This has
been an iHeart production. We'll catch you next week. But
until there be a good sport.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
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