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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Dear listeners, I would like to.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Begin this episode of Two Good Sports with a PSA.
That's a public service announcement. You may have got to
know Jelmy and I on this podcast for our brilliant intellect,
our stunning analysis.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And just general great vibes.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What you're about to hear is I can't speak for Gelmy,
but I will speak for myself Georgie Tunney. I talk
about myself in the third person now as her most
unbearable self. The Brisbane Broncos. If you did not know
us through to the Grand Final, which means that I
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m through to the Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We will get there.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But just so you know, unhingedness.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh wait, this is existing in the vortex of Taylor
Swift bringing out an album this week, the Lions coming
off a premiership even in the NRLW, the Broncos are
a chance and the fact that there's a twenty year
drought of your beloved Broncos that may potentially happen this
week and a deal, Listeners, I am concerned for Georgie's
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well being if you can max out on happiness.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Also, dear listeners, I should point out that Jelmy is
currently speaking wearing a Broncos beanie that I have.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Merch that I've physically seen I technically, by the way,
could I everyone, everyone welcome? Welcome. I was really glad
that you gave that PSA, because I don't even know
where to start, Georgie. There is so much sport happening
at the moment that my tidy brain can't handle it all.
We've got an NBA team in town. Oh yeah, we've
got the Dalla happening last night. Yeah, we've got to
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talk about mad Monday because, as we mentioned, Brisbane, my
goodness just run away witness of the Grand Final. No
one saw them coming except for you. But what a week?
What a time? What a week? What a time?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And I think we should begin then before I get
too crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I wish this was a visual medium, because the crazy
has already left the building, Babe, or at more the
point it's in the building.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
With this, I'm currently adorned in a Broncos jersey of
Broncos hat, and I've got my Lions scuff that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm looking into. McCluggage and Oscar mcameronny the badges, those
are my choices of badges. I think I've nailed it.
You have very I've nailed it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is a scaff that is a premiership winning scuff.
I wore this to the g at the Grand Final
for the Lions Cats game. And I tell you what,
it's real enjoyable to know that you're going to win
a Grand final with a.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Quarter left at somewhere you don't happen in rubby.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Can we oh my god, can we talk about the
preliminary final very quickly?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh my god? Oh no, we'll get there. We'll get there,
We'll get the l We'll get it's all over. It's
been a lot. It's been a lot. It's been having
a format to this. It's been three seasons. We believe
that there's a format. She was part of a good
sport of basketball before I'm like, oh oh this, oh
oh oh oh no.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Let's continue on good sports theme because it has to
go to the Brisbane Lions.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They were unbelievable. Chris Fagan, what a man has to
be in the discussion now is one of the greatest coaches.
Having gone to three back to back to back Grand
Finals and now being back to back finals is so
hard to do in a modern era.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It may have been missed a little bit. I know
we were talking about, you know, the lines going back
to back. Imagine if they could do that, incredible, But
the fact that they did make three straight Grannies, yes,
I think that was the line that was sort of like,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. But when that's huge,
absolutely huge, and it has been off the back of
Chris Fagan, who is such a man manager.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'm going to put him up there with Malmoninger.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Wow, because he I think on the Grand Final though,
players want to play for him, right, and so people
will go to that club because they want to be
coached by him, they want the culture that he breeds.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's also this idea that he keeps being likened to
a dad figure and I'm like, yeah, that's because they
played eight players under twenty two. Yeah they did. That's
because they're children by Like, I know that he's the
oldest coach that we have in the league, but good god,
if that's how good they are, if that's how good
Will Ashcroft is at twenty one in his third season,
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getting back to back Norm Smith's and looking like he
did it for fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't even think he's played sixty AFL games in
his career yet he's a two time what yeah, two
time Norm Smith medallist. Ty Gallup must think that AFL
football is the easiest thing ever done. It was his
sixth game and he's won a flag and.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
They only just like plucked him from nowhere because Hipwood
was injured.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, and he's not even twenty yet. Maybe I think
he's still a teenager. I mean, Levi Ashcroft is still
a teenager. Like these kids are actually kids. What I
would like to point out though with Chris Fagan is
that I thought tactically he was brilliant, Yes or the locky.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Neil the lock sub. And he said himself postmatch in
one of the most gleeful post matches, he was like, oh,
I was up at three am last night being like,
is this a good idea? Because they chose to keep
him not only as the sub and the sub brawl
by the way rest in peace. Oh yeah, the sub
brule's gone, the bounce is gone. It's there's so much
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that we could be discussing at the moment it's actually wild,
but that's the last we're ever going to see off
a sub and how perfect that it was used as
the super sub. And I love Locky Neil, who does
his own podcast. You don't have to listen to it.
This is the only sporting podcast that you need to
listen to. For the record, Yes says that before he plays,
he looks at himself in the mirror. I love he
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prefaces this by going, I don't want to sound, you know,
a little bit up myself, but I look at myself
in the mirror and go, if you're on today, you're
the best player in the AFL, is what he says
to himself. And I might well two time Brownlow you
probably get away with saying that. I believe he looked
at himself at halftime and was like, you are the
best player in the AFL, and ye're the only one
with fresh legs. They are all run off their feet.
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You are ready to go and you're about to run
through them. He was on seventeen touches, seven clearances. He
was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And what everyone forgets now because the final score line
was so massive forty seven point victory to the Lions.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Huge risk. It was thirty six all at half time,
wasn't it. It was macular.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Scores were locked. Yeah, So the difference is locking Neil.
He was incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Which if the old man rolls out there and does
a calf, yes, I am referring to locking Neil, everyone goes,
oh what Or if they don't get there and he
comes out and has a blistering second half, they're like,
you're wasted the two time Brown Law medalist for half
a game on the bench. Instead, it just was poetic
and how it all played out, it just worked.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It just worked, and by the end of it, like
you could see that the kids were just having the
most fun, the most fun. When Will Ashcroft can I
just say, I was like, well, when Will Ashcroft had
the share in and just like lifted it above his
head on the I was just like, yeah, guys.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I am that good? And then the Cats immediately scored afterwards.
I was like, Okay, that's a lesson. There's a lesson there,
norm But when you have that greater hair, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Erect the statue is so much to be said though
about it does bring into question potentially the father son
rule because if you love the son. But when they've
got Fletcher as well, so they've got three players that
have come to this a gun.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And can I just say one of the most most
of the baby so at all of the of the
baby babies, one of the most popular all the babies.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, because they love it. They do.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Fans are obsessed with Jasper Fletcher. So I have watched
all of the camera tapes because I had to work
the next day in the newsroom coming in from all
the celebrations of the lines of it's the fan events
that Runswick over in Melbourne and then up at their facility.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Is when I tell you what if you want to
responsor players for sunglasses, you want to do it on
that day. I want to do it on that day.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Coming off, shout out to Camraino who didn't just go
with a straight black ray ban. Yes I noticed these things,
well done sir. But everyone in those fan events, I
think it was like Ashcroft's there signing stuff and they
just go.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well can you get Jasper or Jazeer.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They love him, love him Jasper jasp A. You just
need to know that, I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You're back in your kid in to play good football
when you give him. But it is that sort of
question of there's no way that the Lions would have
got given how well they were going the likes of
will Ashcroft. H no, and what they give what they
gave up for him was like pick forty or something ridiculous.
So then then they get lever. There is a bit
of a discussion that you shouldn't need to pay market
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value rather in the short term of the long term
for these father sons. But let's not let sense get
into this conversation. So well at being unhint, but that
does I would like to say good sport for the
Lions because do you know what they did exceptionally well
play football but also celebrate and not offend anyone. Oh,
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you're so right, because they showed how mad Monday can
be done well. They rocked up in pretty neutral kit
with a bag under their arm of what they were
planning to wear that day, gave very respectful interviews to
the media that were out the front and went, oh,
you know, we went to an op shop, it's going
to be a bit funny to see and then disappeared.
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Is it that I some say.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You think it would be quite easy, and because of
the time that it was that easy.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You are so aware of if any season has shown
you that you are in a lens where what you
do is going to be studied, this is it. If
you are going to do dress ups, especially hypothetically, if
you're in a rural town where everyone has a fun,
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put them all on a bus in neutral outfits and
go to a farm.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And do whatever you want. Can I whatever you want?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Can I bring some context here for potentially people who
don't know. We are talking about the Geelong Football Club
and their decision to wear some questionable attire and costumes
at their Mad Monday celebrations. We will get to that,
but first, Jellmy, what I just need from you is
that Geelong is famous for this, right like they are
the Kings of Mad Monday.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
They are brilliant at it. Yes, usually just so. My
favorite has been after they won the flag and everyone
told them it was too old. They all went like
they were in a retirement village.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Great, yes, everyone dressed like there were one hundred and
five and it was chef's kiss. But they are known
for harmless, good fun, going above and beyond. We're talking
shaving heads like really leaning into the costume and the
dress up right, never been problematic before. All I know
is that when these photos first surfaced on Monday morning,
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of course it was mad Monday me. I'm like, class,
it wasn't Monday, it was Monday morning. And I started
screenshotting and sending them to Jelmy because if they disappear.
I was like, I need to get this, I need
to get this. This was a literal running commentary that
was going through my head. Oh, Bailey Smith has posted
a story. Let's see what he's up to. Oh my god,
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he's gone as Brad Pitt from Legends of the Fall.
If I know anything about Jelmy, I know she loves
Brad Pitt and especially Legends of the Fall Brad Pitt.
I will send this immediately to Jelmy. Let's click through
to the next photo. Hold on a second. Is that
Max Holmes dressed up.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
As a woman? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, Oh it's caro interesting. Okay, don't quite know how
to process that, but I'm going to click to the
next photo.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Now I've got Bailey Smith and I've also got Patrick Dangerfield.
Why is Patrick Dangerfield standing behind Bailey Smith?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They're looking quite familiar. What is this?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh? Yes, it really is giving Jack Twist and Ennis
from Brokeback Mountain. Oh I love that movie, saw it
twice in the cinemas. Oh maybe they're just giving a
nice little ode.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh hang on, what.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Does the caption say? This is what losing a Grand
final does to you?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Hang on a second. That's not sounding very good.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Screenshot immediately sent to Jelmy and ask what the actual fuck?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Can we not have nice things? Have so many layers
to that. I will say that supposedly Max Holmes had
contacted Carrow and asked if it was okay that one address.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Has also dressed as prominent AFL figures.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And who we loved and all the point. Mitch is
obsessed with Max Holmes, so I think he just loved
it so that one was over. What wasn't necessarily great?
Is Bailey posting saying this is the best that Carow
has ever looked. Oh yes, yes, Bailey's he's launching grenades.
And Mitch Brown has rightly so come out and responded
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to this being like last time I check, losing an
AFL Grand Final doesn't make you gay. I do think
that being homophobic makes you a loser though, Yeah, bang yeah,
say it again. And I understand and we understand that
the world looks at this, and especially a footy club.
World looks at this ru a lens of you can't
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say anything anymore, you can't do anything. What they're dressing up.
It's harmless fun. Let them go if you're ostracizing and
upsetting a large percentage of the population, but also a
large community that have involved in AFL now Allah, the
AFLW and the community. But also just if people are
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telling you something's offensive, they're not the problem. You are.
And no matter what you do in today's society, you
are going to upset a small minority. But if you
are punching down for humor and in this they didn't
wake up and become public figures that day.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
No, they've got experience. Yeah, yeah, just the mind boggles.
And also tell me we were almost to the day
a year ago sitting here talking about the GWS Mad
Monday scandal, right, which was a whole love thing. And
just to think that once again we can't have another
season without just just something going wrong, like just be better?
(14:19):
How many times do we have to say it? Use
a brain cell and be batter.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And the thing is, we I understand as much as
when I get invited to a dress up party and
you go and everyone's dressed up, it's fun. Their lives
are really heavy being an AFL. Yes, they're numerated well,
but it's stressful. You are critiqued left, fright, and center.
There is a lot of pressure that comes with it.
Mad Monday is an opportunity to relieve that spress and
look back on the year that was. The clubs that
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do it well. Put them all on a bus in
neutral clothing, get them far away out of the city
as possible, ideally not swan street play its passed out
as we've seen in previous years from other clubs, and
just let them have the time of their life. But
do it in a way where they're not going to
be watched by everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I know, and take their phones off them.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But even the idea that as an adult, it's like, whoops,
they're going to take my phone off me now?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh yeah, embarrassing. Honestly, it's just so embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And the Cat as a result of this, the Cats
have said we're pulling Mad Monday. Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
This is the official statement coming from the Geelong Cats,
Geelong Football Clubs and Stilly apologizes for the offense caused
following our end of season gathering on Monday.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's called Mad Monday.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So certain costumes and associated social media posts were inappropriate
and a significant error of judgment and do not reflect
our team of all commitment. The club has decided future
post season events will not continue in this current form
and we will take this moment to further educate our
people on expectations and club and community standards.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh Geelong, what of what? End of the year? There
was a wonderful article written by Kyle Pollard of the
ABC where essentially says Geelong is known for its accessibility
on Mad Monday, but Bailey Smith's post have unraveled years
of goodwill, is what the headline is, and it goes
on to explain and goes through the different eras of
how it's been done well, different costumes that have been fantastic,
(16:11):
But it does feel like one person that couldn't play
the game right has literally ruined everyone's fun.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I'm going to make a random prediction about Bailey Smith
for next season, which it doesn't actually have anything to
do with this. It's stunning, No one in my unhingedness
right now, I think after what we saw in the
Grand Final, the performance, him getting slink tackled at the
end and losing the headband, I think the headband.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Might be done. I think the head band's gone. I
think the headband's gone. I think the hair is gone.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think he comes out in twenty twenty six with
a buzz cut. Not a buzz cut. No, he'll still
look he needs to still look pretty, so he'll have.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
If we're gone the Brad Pitt, he could come out
mister missus Smith.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh no, I'm thinking Mighty Joe Young. No, no, no, no,
black sorry black, Mighty Joe Young is the Gorilla movie.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Because I haven't seen that, but I knew where you
what's Mighty Joe Young? I show you. I don't know
is Brad Pitt in it?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Okay no, and said that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Before I said that, I was like, I was like, now,
you always get confused between.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And No. I don't now, but this bat hair. I
I do think. Geelong are usually known for being very palatable,
very straight, one eighty almost the poster Boys, the Golden
Retrievers of the a F l If you will, And
I think that this image, this needing to flip the
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bird in every photo, saying and doing the wrong thing
on social media is really different then, Like when you
think of Geelong, you think of like Joel Sellwood, like
Tom Hawkins, people that you think would shake your hand
and have a chat in public. Right. I think there's
going to be a real introspection for that club over
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the off season about how they're going to deal with
this going forward, because they must be tired and we
are talking about it, right I do I feel sad
we've lost the Bounce and we've lost Mad Monday. What's left?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Can I just say, what are your actual thoughts? We
will get to the main discussion soon deal with no promise,
but what will we don't know? What are your thoughts
on the Bounce? So, as someone who came to Ossie
Rules late, I love the bounce because I love the
way that it's such a performative art piece for the umpire,
Like it's so hard to do.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That there and they go who there are many layers
to it. Okay, it's very hard to get afl umpires. Yes,
it's a very difficult skill and you need to get
a certain percentage of them, right, in order to umpire.
So firstly, it's accessibility for us because some people are
great adjudicators of the game, they just can't bounce very well. Yeah, fair, Okay.
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And then it also came down to safety because as
we saw that, they brought in rules about players not
being able to make contact for the umpires with the
incidental or otherwise because you've got your head down. Yeah,
and you've got and you're trying to run back out
two of the tallest humans as opposed to and being
able to run back. There's two different outcomes there. Ok.
Can you imagine you get to AFL Grand Final Day,
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there's a big the roar of the crowd, everyone's excited,
and you've got the Sharon and all you're thinking is
Mother of God, goes straight, go straight, go straight, go straight.
Like it's no one ever remembers a good bounce. No true,
everyone remembers when it's woeful, very true, very very try.
It does sounding like this is a good call, then
I it does make me a little bit sad because
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I do think when you have, like for instance, we
have the New Orleans Pelicans in town, and when you
have people from all around the world come in and
look at our game and the first thing they see
is an unhinged yeah, followed by umpires running backwards in
Flora yellow and throwing it back in over their heads.
They go, what is this game?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And you're like, valid points, valid, But I don't know
what does it mean then for the common vernacular, because
if we're like, oh yeah, bet boucet.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Timers this time, first bounce.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
First ball, first ball, ball ups at, I guess we've
solved that that's not too hard.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, but it doesn't sound. It doesn't have the same
reason show is called the bounce, I know, ball up. Unfortunately,
they should have gone for sports. It's a lot less dry.
You can't get rid of us, at least to sports somewhere. No,
but I do. We don't want to be the fun police.
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We don't want to be the people that take things
too far. When it comes to Mad Monday, I feel
sad that it's gone, but I also think, like, this
is why we can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, one hundred percent, this is why we can't have
nice things. And guys, just remember we are the pride
of Chris. Be sad we ever rude, Blue we go.
I have heard that song so many times, and you
know what, it actually just gets better.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Guys? Is it just better? Is it just you singing it?
It is? It is? It is just me in quiet rooms.
All right, speak, We're gonna move, We're gonna hop codes.
Because I also would like to nominate another topic for
us discussed today. Oh but I'm gonna go with bad
sport sport. The Dallim medal.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh yes, okay, yes, here we go.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
James sid Esco wins. Yeah, stunning no one like he
won at a canter Also because he was able to
be fit on the park and didn't play origin, so
it's really helpful that you get the extra.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I can't still can't make it into the Astralian squad,
but whatever, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Best play of it ish. The way that the Daly
m has both the men's and the women's competition in
the one night, I think it's sensational. Yes, cele League
do that so well, so good.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The integration of the women's game in to the wider
NL community is amazing because so often that you will
have fans that are just as excited about the NRL
Men's Grand Final on Sunday as the women's Grand Final,
which will be taking place a couple of hours earlier
between the Broncos Roosters. Like, I've had so many people
be like, well, we have to get there for the girls,
so making plans and everything is integrated.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, two juggles. The roosters have been massive. They literally
haven't lost a game this year. But the Broncos have
arguably the best players in the league, which is where
my point comes in. At the DALM, they have all
the players up on stage when they announce who wins
the major award, and for the men's it was obviously
so obvious that it was going to be teddy that
it really wasn't a thing. Yes, I'm reading a news
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dot com dot Au article here. Broncostar Julia Robinson had
to fight back tears on Wednesday night as she was
robbed of the ultimate individual honor, a Dahalim Medal. Robinson
was heavily favored to take out the NLWDALM, but a
coach's decision to rest her in the second last round
of the season proved to be the difference in the end.
Her teammate, Brisbane fullback Tamika Upton, who's a star absolutely
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stir took out the nrolw WM by just three points.
I don't think the coach resting her is what I
want to discuss here. I want to discuss that poor
Julia is up there on the stage yeah okay, yep
with Tamika, shoulder to shoulder with her, watching her step
forward and receive her dream and having to process that
(23:26):
up while everyone is looking at you. Yes, and I
just think, you know what, the AFL doesn't do that
to Nick Dacos, he gets to say sitting down the
process it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
They did because Richard Goyda said Nick bought an incredible
season around him.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
But can you imagine being up there and everyone's and
you're literally the favorite, everyone's expecting you to win it. Yes,
you're there and that energy, and then you have to
watch someone physically step forward in front of you and
receive it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it, but
I'm okay with it. Like I feel for her, Don't
get me wrong, I feel her. She is an absolute gun,
so is to meet.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Broncos, which is something to be highlighted.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Tamika is a one in a generation player though, like.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
She is, I'm all a freaky to Miki y freaky
Miky sounds like a dip freaky, meeky, freaky Meki.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And yeah, she is insane. She played with the night
she was incredible. She moved to the Broncos incredible, Like
she is deserving of this award, though her teammate is
ultimately was her biggest competition.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm fine with it. It's you know, that's that's sport.
That would have me let her cry in a corner
on her own. No, she can do that after. I
love it. Bit of drama, bit of drama.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
They obviously love each other, their teammates. They'll figure it out.
If you get, you lose it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Of course it's gonna be said. You know, let's just
let's let's bring that Honestea, that's okay. If you google Delian,
the first article that comes up isn't about the winner.
It's about her fighting back tears.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, but that in that that's the that's the media's
choice then not to like keep myself with a stick,
my own self with a stick.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But that's that's the choice. That's what I'm talking. God, damn,
it got me again.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
No, but but but but and that's where you know
those kind of masked heads Ideally what you would see
is Daly and winner Men's game, Daly and winner Women's game.
But I know for a fact that it would be
But I know that it would be Daly and Winners,
and it would be three quarters about James Tedesco. And
there's one quarter there about to meet Upton.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So we're still we're still We've still got a long
way to go. We've still got a long way to go.
But I'm I'm okay, I'm okay with it. I'm okay
with it. A bit of drama, a bit of drama.
If she starts, you know, throwing a clutch at her,
maybe that's not not good. That's you know, maybe we
rethink things.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
As clutch as a weapon. Blogs could never.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Do not skip ahead, dear listeners, It's my favorite type
of ASMR.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
What do I have in my hand? Have we gone
FM radio? Is this the secret sound? No one's gonna
get it, I can promise you. So I'll just tell you.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I'll just tell you guys that I'm actually currently now
looking for smoke alarms in the studio because I have
come in today with an absolute treasure trove of merch.
I've made jell me wear a Broncos beanie. I'm wearing
all of the Broncos paraphernalia. But guys, my memory is
really good. It's not that short. The last time the
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Brisbane Broncos were in a Grand Final, I too wore
all of the merch and you know what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
We lost.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So I've learned from my mistakes and instead, what I'm
proposing is the shirt that I wore that says twenty
twenty three Grand Final, that I was wearing when we
lost the twenty twenty three Grand Final, that I went
on national television in the twenty twenty three Grand Final,
that I may need to ceremonially burn her just to
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recover from that and move on into our new era,
which is the twenty twenty five Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Where we are going to win. We're going to win,
We're going to beat the storm. Guys, you're welcome. You're
not going to actually set far at the studio. Just
to clarify, because I feel like this at.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Producer Aaron's looking at me weirdly, but might can't see
a smoker.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
We don't have a fast point. I am genuinely concerned
for your workmare because you have the matches. It's firstly
the weapon, it's the fast. Everything you've brought in is
synthetic and flammable, and you're throwing around some redheads like
that's normal. I just I watched. I've never screamed at
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the TV quite like I did for the prelim. Oh,
because I knew how much it meant to you. That's right,
and to what Adam Reynolds go back and slaught it.
When everyone was expecting Reese Walsh to take it, I can't.
And you had no right. The Panthers looked like they
were panthering.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
We had absolutely no right, No ladies and gentlemen. So
on this podcast just a mere weeks ago, I said,
I witnessed the greatest game of all between the Broncos
and Canberra to get us through to the prelim, and
that remains the greatest game we've ever seen. It was
what we did, though against Penrith, arguably more impressive, more impressive.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And the context of a prelim try line defense.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I didn't think we had it in us in that
second half to hold the Panthers out. I was like,
absolutely not. I'm taking bets of two to one. We're
not doing it like it. I was so stunned how
much we rallied, and we rallied without having Patrick Carrigan there,
who is our co captain.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But also and he's back for the finals. He's back
for the final.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
He was out due to suspension, but he's the one
that rallies the forwards in the first half against the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
In the prelim our forwards, where were they? Where are you?
That we didn't know what we were doing? Our halves
were terrible. I was like Georgia message Maguire, handing your resignation,
What is the plan? We don't even have a put.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
No pa no pah, we only have one per and
it's paying haas he was the only one doing anything.
And I was like, oh my god. And the Panthers
rightfully so belted at us. They put on fourteen points
fourteen nil at halftime. But there was still a spark
within me that thought, we cannot play worse than this.
And the Panthers are only fourteen points ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That's not telling me. There's a chair telling me there's
a chance.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And it really did just it was set up as
a fairy tale for anyone who's seen the twenty twenty
three Grand five or the Broncos were in an unlosable
position and somehow lost the game.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
It was the greatest comeback in NRL history in a final.
And that's not using that term flippidly, that's facts. Yes,
So no team has ever been up by that much
in a Grand Final and lost. So you weathered that, Oh,
we weathered that.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And just adding layers to this, what makes that one
of my favorite stats ever is because we were able
to out panther the Panthers, and now I think we
are on our way to potentially winning the whole thing.
This is what makes it particularly so I'm just going
to let this is what makes it particularly incredible what
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we were able to do, and I'm going to let
love of my life, sorry, Robert Darren Lockyer explain.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
To share with me earlier in the week.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Gives you an indication of how much the Broncos had
to dig deep for this.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Since twenty twenty, when the Panthers have been twelve or
more points in front in a.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Game then and.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I have almost one hundred percent. Yeah they are yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yep, thank you maths from twenty twenty every single game
beyond that, the Penrith Panthers. When they have a lead
of twelve points or more, they have won ninety eight
and oh ninety eight out of ninety eight. So this
is the time, this is what we were up against,
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and somehow, somehow we did it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We did it. I mean, Darren, that's an unbelievable state.
It's also an unbelievable voice. I didn't think we'd have
a deeper voice on two Good Sports this season, but
you pulled it out, like I know that he's your
favorite person, but also when you're like the love of
my life. Pause, sorry, Robert, do you know how many
people go through my mind who you could be about
to talk about any given week? I was like, all right,
(31:52):
let's re said this week, let's have a listen. Oh,
no worries, let's just see. I sit here adorned in
cos merch, mostly because I really appreciate our friendship, but
I'd like to keep it that way. Yep. The Storm
are in their eleventh Grand Final under Craig Bellamy in
his twenty three seasons. Yep. Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's pretty I mean, mats off the top of my head,
it's almost a fifty percent. Yeah, just sounds great to
just it's like every year and one in two, I'm
gonna take.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You to the ground. We're getting to the finals. We're
talking to the Grand Final. Yeah, yeah, So they believe
they have been here before and they're looking at it going, oh,
thank god, it's not the Panthers. And I think on
behalf of the NRL everyone goes, oh, thank god. So
whatever happens, it's not the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So when Adam Reynolds was lighting up for the winning
conversion in the prelim.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The entire NRL community except for Penrith.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Except for Penrith fans, I think I spoke for all
of them. I was on my knees in the newsroom
and I said.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Do it for them, Al and he did, and he
dan Well did, he dann Well did? So where are
we just going to gloss over the fact that Jerome
Hughes is back and looks like he's in great form,
that the Stormer really primed. And they also had an
additional two days to recover heading into this Grand Final,
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which is one of the more bizarre scheduling choices. The
NFL has had a lot of criticism by the fact
they played their prelims, one on the Friday, one on
the Sunday, so no matter what the outcome, which everyone
knew Storm was going to win their way through, they
had two extra days to recover heading into a Grand Final,
which is significant.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I think for my mental health, it's best if we
gloss over all of those things. Ah No, Look, I
was also at the Storm prelimb, so I saw them
defeat Crinulla and it was a really fast game.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It was a really fun game.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
There were so many mistakes to the point that I
turned to Robert when we're in the stands and I said,
whoever wins on Sunday could be either of these teams.
Right then we played that badly in the first half
against the Panthers, and I thought, oh no.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The Storm can beat either of these teams.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
The thing with the Melbourne Storm is they're just so
impressive and they can smother you and suffocate you from
any position.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And it's also been played in neutral ground. Right You've
got a Brisbane team and a Melbourne team playing in
Sydney again in one of the nuances that is leak. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Can I just say though, it felt like it was
a home game to try and get bloody tickets.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To I was back in eras to a hell.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I still don't know anyone who's managed to get a
ticket in the public sale.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I was like, what is this? It's a hoax?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
How can there be this many people in front of
me in the queue? And then I don't even get
in the queue.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
What are you talking about? Do you want to declare
how much you're not the average man by how you
got tickets? So you're gonna let it go? Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So so, dear listeners, my dear friend Brendan Pavola, who
also adores the Melbourne Storm, he can't be there because
he's working with the AFLW team Richmond, who are adores
Champion of the people. Yeah, champion of the people. And
he said he sent me a message when I was
in the throes of hell, in that line fighting for
my life, and he goes, have you got a ticket
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yet to see your Bronx lose number one? I was like,
that's not necessarily hurtful, Okay, no worries. And I was like, Brendan,
I don't have time. That's when I messaged and then
he said, bro I've got you tickets and I was
like I do have time.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I have all of the time. I have all of
the time Breton, So unfortunately if it's herd but here
we are.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Huge shout out to Fev because it's just the type
of man he is. He knew that I would absolutely die.
So we will be there on Grand Final evening to
see hopefully the Broncos when it has been a really
long time since two thousand and six, Yes, which can
I just say is a fun fact. For Christmas in
two thousand and six, I was gifted a DVD now children,
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that is like what we call YouTube today, but it
lived on a disc and you had to put it
in a machine anyway. Sidebar, I was gifted a DVD
which was the NRL Grand Final because the Broncos, Melbourne
Broncos won and it was Darren Lockey at one of
his ultimately last games and it was just incredible.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
When I met Georgie in twenty fifteen, Darren Lockier was
still her screensaver love no word of a lie, Love
the man, and he's joined us on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I mean what technically tell me Look if if.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
If you were you there, tell me where we were
two thousand and six.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, I was in my I was in my family
lound room watching it with my dad. Oh yeah, like
we watched Origin this year, like it's that was that
was where we were were so excited, very funny. It
was very much like I did not think that we
were going to win, like even when it was like
seconds to go and I was like, we can learn
that from here, which.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Was me and the prelim again, my friend was like,
you've got it, and I was like, don't you did?
Dodge shut your mouth, shut.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It if the Broncos win, to get some analysis into this, like.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Are we talking tattoos? Are you gonna what? Oh? No,
well I haven't considered that yet. No, I mean potentially potentially.
I don't know, but I'll be crying, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'll definitely be crying because in my mind it was
easy to win a Grand Final because I started following
rugby league in the year nineteen ninety nine, but technically
two thousand. The Broncos won in two thousand and we
have not won since two thousand and six, which in
my mind.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Was yesterday, but it wasn't. No, it really wasn't.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
And this will be our potential third Grand Final lost
in a row and I can't have that. And I
know that Melbourne Storm lost the Grand Final last year
and they will be doing everything so they don't become
back to back losers. But all I'm asking for Harry Grant,
Friend of the show, maybe just don't have your best game,
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like I love you, but mate.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Like do you do you want to? Georgie message Harry Grant,
friend of the Show, been on earlier in this season,
been like, hey, mate, would love to have you on
this week And Harry, being the great sport that he
has said, would love to, can't travel commitments Unfortunately. Georgie
replied and said no worries, no luck for this weekend
with a Broncos sign. Legit, Yeah, legit, I said, I'm
(38:22):
no longer friend of the show. You sent a wwesome
ooji to a lightning we don't consent. I now I'm like,
I need to send you a WhatsApp with some lightning
bolts to cancel out the bad pr that you paused
for These relationships are important, George.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
In all seriousness, the only way that the Broncos can
win is if they shut down that man.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, he is unbelievable. Him in the prelimb Granger.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh good from you guys. We go back and listen
to our episode with Harry Grant. He's grandful. He was
the difference in the prelim. He was the one that
you just knew when he had the ball was great.
But it's like it was it was Grant Grant game
and he.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Takes cherry but the actual ice cream itself. Yeah, oh Harry.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And now I was looking at Jerome Hughes's arm, which
has more strapping on it than an actual horse, Like
it's was just the biggest oh for arm guard you've
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Because his arm is broken. There's no way that it
is not that he's doing Jeremy Cameron, but it's still broken. Yeah,
they cannot meld back unless Hermione Grange has actually been
a part of it. It's broken. God, I'm getting flash back.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So Harry that that quidish game and then it fixes
it anyway.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Painful, very painful, very painful.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
But he if I said on Friday, if he got
through the game, like he'd be the one that was
responsible for putting him through them through to the Grand Final.
He's so good, Like he's just so good and he's
very likable, very liable, a very likable. I know it
is unfortunate. It is unfortunate for me as a Broncos fan,
because they're going to come in here and they're going
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to be well rested, They're going to have all their
systems down, whereas the Broncos we're chaotic.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
What's going on with us? Oh Reynolds is barely back,
like you've just got all this change anywhere?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And he never sprinted once in the because he has
a hamstring hanging on with dental floss.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And I'm like, when he lined up for that kick,
I was like, he doesn't have a hamstring, why is
he kicking it? And then he kicked it and I
was like, brilliant, he's kicking it. Because Reese Wold doubt
and was like, I'm not being the reason we lose this.
It's bad. Pr the game winner.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So if carry Grant is the match winner for the Storm, yes,
the match winner for the Brison Broncos is Rees Welsh.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Has to be? Has to be? Can we? Because I
fear that this episode may go for four years, Yes,
we may still be recording when Mister Final is being played.
I don't even want to look at you say this.
I think the Stormer a very strong chance. I think
the Stormer a very strong chance. I really like the
storm as an institution. A good friend of mine is
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working where the matches, Dave Asbury, who's a friend of
the pod. No, he's not. He's just a friend of
mine who played for the Tigers. He's doing a lot
of their help in the mental space. I've always been
really good at this sort of stuff. Storm Dare I
say ahead of the pack? Yes, in terms of working
in that sort of mental space and mental game. I
(41:25):
wish I could be there with you. I can't, but
I just I need to know what tier of the
stadium your tickets are in the general being, do you were?
I don't even know them yet. I don't know. I
haven't got them. Cor fev Yeah, yeah, can you. That's
a question that she's not at a height.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I just know that I am driving at four thirty
am to drive from Melbourn so I can get there,
ideally in time for the girls game too, because I
want to see the end.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I just want to say, tickets from state to state
on the airplane aren't sold outs a drive. I mean
there's a lot of sand they've not they have not
shut down both made airlines prediction.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I have to go Broncos YEP. I think Broncos win by.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Eight and Reese Walsh is no makes it happen.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I think Rees Walsh is the man who makes it happen.
I don't think he'll win the Clive Churchill Medal, which
is for best on Ground. I think that that will
either go to Payne Hass like he played eighty minutes
in that prelim. He's unbelievable. It will be Payn Hass
or it could be Ben Hunt in the Ultimate Redemption arc.
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He's back playing a Grand Final for the Brisbane Broncos
after infamously dropping the ball and losing myself and himself
a Grand Final in twenty fifteen against the Cowboys. And
I just think that sometimes sport works out, and it
would be what a fairy tale that would be if
it doesn't work fucked.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Fun fact. Fun fact, I love to snoop. Oh, I
haven't even talked about it, and you're about to see
Teddy swims.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes, ideally hopefully he's got vocal issues.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Is he called it? I don't think he's called it yet.
Has he officially called it? Oh? Who are they? Going
to get LOLd because Peter Blandy's. We'd love Peter Blandy's
mostly because he loves being the antagonist. He does not
mind being the bad guy. And when the AFL got Snoop,
He's like, what have they got the poodle somemmer. We've
got Teddy Swims who actually sings, which is something my
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mother would like, because my mom sent me a message
during the AFL pregame entertainment going this rap sucks. I
can't understand a word he's saying, and I was like,
that is the Meanwhile, I'm going, this is the greatest
pregame entertainment of all time. I'm basically in a nightclub.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I have Now this is going to be a dumb question.
Why is it pregame entertainment and not halftime entertainment? Like
why isn't it a halftime show?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Because there's too much stuff they have to roll out.
I believe it was a.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Pretty and they do the sprint, Oh this, but put
that before?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Did you see our other friends? I thought he was
going to kill it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I was like, you watched this, Harry has been humbled,
but he said, oh my god, it was what who
won it?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
That guy from he was very fast, and he was
very fast. I forget remember exactly unless he smoked. Put
that pre game. Put that pre game.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, and the anthems and whatever and what they've done typically,
like we had Baker Boy before Snoop, right, so you
can put those local artists they're going to have another Internet, Yeah,
put them at the start and then have Snoop Because
and I say this as it was being in the ground,
it didn't fall flat for me, but the crowd itself
(44:48):
wasn't as fully engaged. And I purely think it's because
it was daytime.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
But it's always daytime. The game is too, Yeah, halftime
is also time, but.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
It's but it's but it's slightly darker, slightly darker, so
you could see something more more of those that's fireworks,
you know, those ones that aren't like a full fireworks,
like yeah, they nearly killed Locky Neil. Yeah, when he
was final forad like that, you could it would have
been more of a spectacle. I actually thought the sound
was great. I thought Snoop was great.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
I think he was clever in that any bridge he's
ever been a part of that was popular. He was like,
oh that was me you didn't know that was me.
I want to make you sweat. That's me. Yeah, David,
who what like? Basically and your beautiful chef's kiss. I
was like, where's Pharrell? But I also know that like Snoops,
my wheelhouse absolutely loved it. I know nothing about Teddy Swims,
(45:36):
so I am very very intrigued as to what the
NRL do now because they were wrapped. Surely they just
have to throw money at the problem.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I don't think he's officially gone. However, if he's not there,
I don't know what they do. Burn Fanning, just get
burn and Fanning there, get reform powder Finger?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Come on, now, it's that easy just to be like yo,
powder Finger. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
When I think powder Finger, I think Brisbane. So yeah,
get burned there he's fat.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I think it would be unbelievable, welcome everyone, God geez,
how do how does she do it? Just all these
crazy theories. I'm like, oh, there we go, got it.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
But Teddy Swims is actually divine like his if his
voice is believable, unbelievable, which is a problem vie.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
If Snoop lost his voice and could only talk through it,
we would in the same effect where needs to be
able to see it.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
He needs it, he needs it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
forgot what the fun fact was, Oh that you like.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Snirts all, I've got our other fun fact is that's it.
That's it for us for season three.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Season three two good sports, most professionalism to the last episode, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Some Joe movie reference. I don't know what that even was.
I can't remember it because I've never seen it. I
love this. I love you. Also, welcome to everyone who's
new here. Yes, we understand Georgie being unhinged about some
Geelong players looking the same brought some of you along. Love,
thank you, Hello, we you. We love this space. We
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love what it means to us. We love the fact
that we catch up every week and genuinely sit down
and I don't know what's coming out of your mouth
or vice versa, and we just go.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I think neither of us are expecting me to bring
matches today, Like it's.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Just not highlight of the year. Albow was fun. Oh albow.
We couldn't get albow out of here. No albow. I
was like, don't you have a defense meeting or something?
Look at this photo of me playing a Yeah, I
loved it. I think definitely a season highlight.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I think I think Albow having the PM like just
one firstly approaching us on the show incredible. So we'll
definitely get him back in season for next year. I
think we're gonna We're definitely coming.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I mean, Harry Grant if he goes on to win it,
We're like, well, there's the evidence that if you're a
current player and you come on our show, it leads
to great success. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
My highlight is still to come of the year, which
will be the Brisbane Broncos.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Do we what do we do? Like we can't have
a last step of not have you go full on hinge?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
What do we do?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
We do a live of some variety we could do.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
We'll do something We'll do We'll do like a face
I'll be crying in the stands so we can record
a FaceTime before night.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
What is happening that's you see the stands a day
after that? Will need to go get you from the
bottom tier because I'm calling fair for making sure you're
not at heights. I love you, love you too until
next year. Until next year, be a good books points