October 28, 2024 • 28 mins
Finally, the 2026 Commonwealth Games have a host city. Glasgow has put their hand up to save the event, with the Victorian government still covering most of the bill. But with a scaled back program of just ten sports, does this spell the end for the Comm Games?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm Georgie Tunny and I'm Abby Jelmy, and my goodness,
has it been an overwhelming week of just feeling so
privileged that we get to do what we do and
your feedback on our last episode, Yeah, the term is overwhelming.
We were inundated with messages about how you'd felt the
same yep in the reaction to the GWS scandal, but
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also just that women in sport need a voice.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
George, Yes, yeah, And I think what hit me most,
Jelmy was all of the wonderful feedback from all of
the listeners, thank you for sending it in, But it
was the messages from our colleagues as well. Yes, and
all of the women who have fought like us, so
hard and for so long to get a space at
the table, whether that be at the back, in the
back corner of the room, but at least they're in
(01:07):
the room. Who was saying thank you for voicing this
and speaking about it so eloquently, which is great for
us because I remember us recording that episode being very
highly charged and not quite sure what was coming out
of our mouth.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That I also couldn't breathe.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yes, there were layers to theas there were layers, but
to know that we were kind of speaking on behalf
of a cohort and that that cohort really did accept
and thank us for that and we communicated their thoughts
is something that will stay with me for a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. And we shared some personal stories too, and to
have them received the way they were. Although I mean,
the headline that came out of my story was Channel
seven presenter in disgusting photo incident, which I just feel
paints me seven and a half months pregnant in a
really odd light.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So in my mind I see that, I see that
headline and I'm like, oh my god, what was she
doing licking an escalator?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Give me a call?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But we do. While we're on the topic of the giants,
we did want to have a correction because, as we
had both mentioned in the episode, but perhaps because of
our vitriol, we didn't get to it as early as
what we should have. We both highly respect the Giants
as an institution and have had.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All of our dealings with them have always been positive.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And they have a lot of strong women in their
leadership group within the club that have been there for
a very long time, and one of them reached out
to us and thanked us for the episode, but also
just wanted to clarify that the club certainly didn't sit
idly by when these allegations were made, which is what
had been reported and what we reiterated. The club worked
hand in hand and recommended sanctions with the AFL, including
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those that were handed down to the leaders, and took
it very seriously. They did, And I think that what
we really want to stress is that as much as
the Giants were the example that had led to us
really unpacking this cultural issue within the AFL, they are
not the exception to the rule no, and that it's
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a wider commentary that we were making, and we believe
they've got all the right people in place to be
able to rectify this.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but pats on the back all round to everyone
who listened to that episode took.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Shared it as well, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The responses Jelmy has said was overwhelming. And therefore you
all are our good sports of the week. So thank
you very very much. It meant a lot to us.
This is one of the only times I can remember
in my career that I've had only positive feedback.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Same and we were ready for pitchforks.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah we were.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We were, which probably says a lot about our audience.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It does, so it's really lovely. But of course, Jelmy,
we are about balance, so I have to have a
bad sport as well in this episode, and I am
going toward that to myself because when I saw the
news that Australia had lost the Constellation Cup in netball
Australia in New Zealand, we lost to New Zealand for
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the first time in Australia since twenty nineteen. This is
only the third time that New Zealand has actually won
the Constellation Cup in history. Did I swear and stamp
my feet like a toddler? Yes, yes I did, Yes,
I did. So bad sport to me, because sometimes you
know what, emotions just get the better of you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I think it is one of the great rivalries
in sport Australia New Zealand in netball, and it always
seems to go down to the dying seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yes, yes, and always people always come at me like
when Queensland won eight in a row, nine out of
ten series straight in the state of origin, They're like,
don't you want New South Wales to win? So it's
a bit more interesting? No, no, no, I don't. I
don't so well done New Zealand. The actual playing cohort
there at the moment is freaking scary.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So yeah, but bringing netball up is a great topic
because it is one of the ten sports that I
needed to make the cut for the Glasgow Comnwealth Games. Now,
this Georgie is one of the first topics that we
covered on Two Good Sports, essentially going is it costing
six maybe seven billion dollars for Victoria to host this event?
(05:14):
And what is going to happen with it? Well, we
haven't touched on it since, but there's been developments this
week that have really made us think is this format
viable going forward? And is this the beginning of the
end for the Commonwealth Games. That's what we're discussing today.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Jell mey, our dear listeners may have been able to
hear my little cackles just as you were introducing this
week's topic, because I tell you what, I haven't laughed
like I have laughed whenever we talk about the Commonwealth,
games about your passion for it and how you're like,
what in the hell is happening? Someone give me an answer.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You go red. The house is on fire, the houses
on fire, and no one cares.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And it's one of my favorite topics in the world.
So this is me and Pens. This is me building,
putting the last little nail into the soap box that
I have constructed here, and I am ready for Jellny
to take it away.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Where are we Well, I'm going to wax lyrical and
take you on a different journey to start with, because George,
if you were anywhere near a TV in the last week,
you would have seen Charles and his mate Camilla parade
around Sydney to hundreds of adoring monarchists in what was
a very royal visit. The opera house was lit up.
I mean they did snub royal ramwik people read to
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see him. At the races, they didn't go. Leaders were met,
hands were shook, sausages were turned in what was the
world's most awkward barbecue, and Camilla proved she was just
like the rest of us, by taking off her shoes
and dare to go barefoot back up the stairs after
a long day of service, allah leaving the Flemington members
after one too many champagnes. Turns out they are just
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one of us. But it was largely hailed a success.
The Australian Republic Movement dubbed it the Farewell Os Tour, however,
saying the vast majority of Australians confirmed that they continue
to see the monarchy as irrelevant to modern Australia. How
does this link back to sport? Are you asking, Well,
here are two good sports. We don't want to discuss
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the relevance of the Commonwealth in modern society, but we
sure as hell do want to discuss the very real
decline in relevance of the Commonwealth Games in the modern
sporting landscape, its viability and the slim down version to
feature only ten sports in Glasgow twenty twenty six, which
is ironically announced while the two monarchs were swanning around Sydney.
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You know, Australia, the country that dropped the ball and
led us to this tiere, a miss that we Victorians
are still paying hundreds of millions of dollars to host nothing,
to host nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What I would love producer James to do here is insert.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Around the ball. I'm just we're in so much debt,
Victoria is in so much debt, and we have spent
three hundred and eighty million dollars to have.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Nothing, to have nothing. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So we'll take you back to that and how we've
got to that point, George, So you take it away.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well tell me because as you recall, I know, because
it lives in your mind. Rent free is what we're seeing.
But what our listeners may not necessarily recall is that
in July last year, Victoria abruptly Withdrew as the host
of the twenty twenty six Commonwealth Games. We talked about
it a little bit at the time, but one note
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that we actually could not get our wrap our heads
around was when the then Premier Daniel Andrews said that
it was going to cost too much money, was going
to be too high, blowing out from two point seven billion,
which was the forecast, to six maybe seven becoming the
count from Sesame Street eight ha ha ha nine ha ha.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And he said that it was quote to quote him.
I've made a lot of difficult decisions in this job.
This is not one of them. It's never sat with
us that particular call. It doesn't make sense. We've always
been like, excuse me, hang on, can you explain the numbers.
We're just not sure, bah bah. And as we have
gone on, we've seen that it hasn't sat that well
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with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And the reason why Victoria got this over the line,
and it was a pre election promise, was that it
was going to be a rural games and they were
going to build infrastructure in regional Victoria and that's why
they pulled it, essentially just saying the cost of production
has blown out so much for these venues that we
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promised that we would build that we just can't be
seen to be prioritizing six maybe seven billion dollars on
a one off event when there's a housing crisis. No shit, Sherlock.
But we have been left so the State Auditor General
found that five hundred and eighty nine million had already
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been spent on the games that never went ahead. That
figure includes three hundred and eighty million in compensation to
the Commonwealth Games Federation, of which two hundred million has
now been given to Glasgow to go can you do
something with this shit sandwich? Like, can you please rescue this?
So the Scottish government agreed for a rescue deal for
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a scaled down version of the twenty twenty six Games,
with where a multimillion pound commitment was made by Australian
authorities to save the event. Now they hosted the Games
in twenty fourteen, yes, and they were seen as an
overwhelming success. But you'll remember Emingham only hosted the last
Commonwealth Games, also rescuing this format. Yes, so without footing
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most of the bill, Glasgow are getting to host and
we are just having the check how does this all
check out? And how more the point, did we not
think of hosting a scale down games when we have
all the infrastructure and we hosted the Commonwealth Games recently.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Which is actually what I thought at the time. The
Commonwealth Games Committee, who we have since paid one hundreds
of millions dollars of compensation to did suggest like that
was part of all of their workings, being like, hang
on a second, let's not cancel, let's not cancel everything.
Maybe we can just like rework some things. We can
figure it out. I feel like that was a conversation
that wasn't entertained by the Victorian government and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yet the Scots had it. And I thought, you know
what I'm going to find. I'm gonna hear a barometer
for how the Scottish feeling to have the Comonwealth Games.
And this was the first podcast that popped up that
I'm found talking about the Games. And if it is
a reflection of the general view, it's bloody funny.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I mean, it's a Mackey Moosh Games in Wow, Lord Shay,
We're already heard it in twenty fourteen and it's coming
back in twenty twenty. Stays because Melbourne, the state of
Victorian a shoeshes we can't afford to put it on.
She when can we afford to put it on? Believe,
can you know what it's going to end up going?
Shaudi Arabia. I should order bout sporting events school because
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they get the fucking money. He put them on because
they've got all the money in the world and we're
all fucking skin.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So he has a point. Cost he's a massive issue.
But the come Wealth Games Australia boss Craig Phillips said, look,
we were happy to talk to the Victorian government about
finding ways of saving costs of the game. If eliminating
sports from the program was a part of that, we
certainly would have had the conversation. I've been on the
record as saying we didn't really get that opportunity to
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have that conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
They weren't interested. The Victorian government wasn't interested in saving
these games. They they didn't want them to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Is that because like Devil's advocate here, building the infrastructure
is the only reason the spend was justified. Yes, and
if they did a scale down games, those in the
region would have said, well, you've got your sport, but
your billion dollar promise to us to make these stadiums
and for these hotels and for this tourism were taken
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from us.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think that that is fair, and I do think
that as a whole, the Commonwealth Games or large scale
events like this, they are politically noxious like they they
put a bad taste in people's mouths when you're talking
about it when so many people are struggling, there's no
denying we're seeing that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
With Brisbane at the moment for the Olympic Game.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Where's our stadium of which we were the only ones
that bid.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's the thing. Is it seen as this big coup
that we got it? Yeah, no one else wanted it.
But we mentioned off the top that it was a
Dan Andrews government. That again Dan Andrews who's getting a
statue and he's honor for all of his services to Victoria.
But we'll leave that there. Jacinta Allen was actually in
charge of this bid. Oh yes, she was coming back
to me the Now premiere. Yes, that's right, and she
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this week was queried about o make King and Queen
being in the country and also about the Goldwealth Game.
So let's have listened to what she had to say
to Tom Elliott on three aw the.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Commonwealth Games that there's a theory doing the rounds that
you didn't want to see the king because you're embarrassed
about the Commonwealth Games?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that true? No?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No, Why are.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You refusing to release all the information about the decision
making on the Commonwealth.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We we've released a significant amount of information. Plus the
Order to General has examined this issue and he's released
his report. We always said it was the most the
Order to General was the appropriate with the pro independent agency,
independent agency to have a review of that decision, and
he's released his report. And meanwhile, Tom, what we're getting
on with is those investments in regional Victoria, which was
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why why we looked at this in the first place.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You go to Glasgow.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Will you go to Glasgow in two years and watch it?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I doubt it?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
No, Right, I'll be focused Tom on building more homes
here in Victoria, not heading off overseas to a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Not going on holiday, building houses, Tom, building houses, Tom.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, moving right along, Tom.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Moving right along us. Because we've mentioned the ten sports
and I'm sure you're going which ones made the cut? Yeah,
and the.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Scaled down version of the Comonwalk games that will be
taking place in Glasgow that Victoria is essentially paying to
put on.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So they will take place from Thursday, the twenty third
of July to Sunday the second of August in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's actually terrifyingly not that far away.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's not that far away at all. A total of
three thousand athletes are expected to compete. That's about half
the number of athletes that we saw at Birmingham. This thoughts,
that will feature rum roll here we go, athletics and
para athletics, track and field, swimming and para swimming, artistic gymnastics,
feel track cycling and para track cycling, netball, weightlifting and
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para powerlifting, boxing, judo bowls and para bowls, three by
three basketball and three by three wheelchair basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I'm just looking down the list. I don't seem to
see hockey.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
No hockey, or diving, or road cycling or badmington or
beach volleyball or cricket our. Aussie women not able to
defend their gold.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, rugby sevens No rugby sevens.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Mountain biking, rhythmic gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Which I actually love. I will always fight for rhythmic gymnastic.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
If it is on your watching, you are watching, you
can't look away. The hoop a chance to compete without
Russia and America come jam table jennis and power table tennis.
And you've got to think about the para athletes here
as well. So para table tennis, gone triathlon and para
triathlon and wrestling.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Huge, huge, so a lot a lot of big outs,
a lot of really really big out.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
The headline for me, there is hockey.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, for sure, for sure, the Kookoa baros and the
hockey RWs. Obviously they dominate. At the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We want to combine fourteen medals, including seven straight gold
for the men's team. Well that's unfortunately. Do you know
why we love the comm Games, Georgie. We win, we win.
We locked the floor with them, let us win, and
they've just taken it from us. You know what.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
We love to win on home.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Soil, and diving is a big one too. So diving
a bit in every edition dating back to nineteen thirty
of the Empire Games, and road cycling had featured since
nineteen thirty eight. And I mean we didn't have a
strong road cycling contingent in the Olympics. Oh wait, we
did Grace Brown our first gold the Games, so I
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wasn't looking forward to seeing that one as well. But
Commonwealth Games, Georgie. Why I get emotional about it, and
there are many reasons, is it serves so much of
a purpose in our Australian sporting landscape. I mean, you
think Kathy in ninety four when she held both the
Australian and the Indigenous flag and in nineteen ninety when
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she was the first Indigenous woman to win gold for
Australia Yep. Those moments happened at a Commonwealth Games. There
are memories and people that would have been inspired by
the Games on the Gold Coast that are now competing
at an Olympic level and that chance to have wear
the Green and gold and feel that level of pressure
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can't be replicated.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, And this is the thing about the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
One.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think we need to talk about the incredible sense
of community that it engenders for everyone who does.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Take apart, it's the friendly game, it is.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's the Friendly Games. You see the power program integrated,
which is huge, which is amazing because all that para
athletes want is to be put on the same platform
and the Commonwealth Games is one of the best events
to do that. I also think that because there are
some of these sports that aren't represented at an Olympic level.
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I was talking to queenly Zellis last week, yes, about
exactly what those Commonwealth goals that she won in her
career and that competition meant to her and it means
the world. I was talking to Karen Murphy, the champion
lawn bowler who was just inducted into the Sports Australia
Hall of Fame. Yes that's how good she was. And
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it's like, don't you don't get to replicate. You don't
get to have that moment at an Olympic Games. You
have to have it at the Commonwealth Games. And if
you're taking that away from all of these other sports,
you're taking those opportunities away for those athletes. Oh, it
doesn't sit well with me. Regardless of what you think
about the Commonwealth. There are so many republics that compete,
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so many republic nations compete at the Commonwealth Games. You know, like,
it's it can't be, it can't be. Shouldn't be this
hard to hope to have them.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I just think in the global climate at the moment,
with how expensive these events are, once you take sports
off the table, it's really hard to add them back on. Yes,
and I think like all Powder Glasgow for throwing a
lifeline here so that we actually have the Commonwealth Games.
But once you remove something, it's very, very hard to
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add it back on. I agree. So the question is
is this, Let's be honest, they look like school carnival events.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh yes, yeah. Fun fact three buy three basketball?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Know is that because it can happen in someone's driveway,
like you don't have to build the infrastructure. Is that it?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I got to say, that wasn't one of my favorite
events that was added to the Paris program. Yeah, I
wasn't sure about that. Fun fact. Queenly's also calls the
Olympics a glorified swimming carnival that will can't be there,
So yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I love it. She is the greatest, But I it hurts.
It does?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It does, And I think you're right, Jemmy. Does this
then mean that there will be a time when we
don't see the Commonwealth Games? I think it's teetering on
the edge. I honestly do. I think we could go
one of two ways where it doesn't exist. But then
where is the platform for our elite athletes to compete.
I know you'll have World Champs, but it's not the same.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's also the accessibility for mine. So if you wanted
to get to Paris, my goodness, bring your check book. Yes,
if you were a sporting family and wanted to take
your kids and expose them to that opportunity, you need
it to be in the top one percentile of people
earning around the world. In order to get the flights
we had athletes saying how exorbitant the tickets were, yep,
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and just accommodation everything else because of the scale of
it all. When you think about the Commonwealth Games, you
same bolt ran and won at a Commonwealth Games. Emma
mckeehon is our most deck rated Commonwealth Games athlete, like,
these are the best that we've ever seen in the world,
and you could go for cheaper yeah, and your family
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could actually stay in those areas like it was viable.
And again it's the feel good games. I just a
really really worry. And again, unless it goes to Saudi Arabia,
who can really afford to be hosting these events? And
we've seen it with the FIFA with the World Cup
being split across different nations because no one country in
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the current climate can put their hand up to host it.
So not only does this bring into question the Commonwealth
Games and its viability, but also the Olympic Games, which
just makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You can't complain about Saudi shareholders taking over world sport
if you don't fight for it yourself. And I know
that it's not a level playing field, but you've got
to at least look as though that you want it.
And with the Commonwealth Games. I just don't know if
that's if that's it, because there are genuine questions to
be raised about it being a financial element. Those are genuine.
You know, Birmingham still struggling after it hosted a couple
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of years ago, like it's still struggling financially in the
wake of that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
In what was seen as a very successful games, it
has had a negative fiscal impact.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What we're saying is we will always be advocating for
the athletes because the opportunities for them to make a living,
to be full time professional athletes are dwindling.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And do you know what makes me go, ah, yeah,
that's a direct quote, is all of this paves way
for the Enhanced Games. It's true, George, it is because
if you're getting one hundred thousand American dollars just to
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qualify as an athlete, and they have a scaled down
programer think of only five sports, so it's going to
be a lot more viable to host.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
The future is scary.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It is scary and potentially druggy. It's a real geniure's
another quote. But my thing, I love the Commonwealth Games.
They're the feel good games. I think the integration of
the power program is something that cannot be underestimated in
terms of its power of bringing us all together. And
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when you watch Australians win, there's something about it that
feels really good. And we win a lot at the
Common Games. So don't take it from me us tell
me yes, okay us everyone, But twenty twenty six is
not too far away. We wait and see.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah yeah, and hey, they better be an Australian flag
put somewhere. We're paying for the Games after all.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you think there is another Commonwealth Games after Glasgow? Yes,
I'm not so sure, Georgie. Yes, it's time for our
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favorite segment, fun facts. Sometimes they just land in your lap.
One of our favorite fun facts there's a pineapple on
top of the Winwooden Trophy. It came to me while
I was watching Gold You win a Larry Emda on
the chase. I love the chase. Judge me accordingly. Yesterday
my dear at the half was having a well earned
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beer because he's been doing a lot of the heavy
handed parenting at the moment because I can't lift anything.
And he looked at the lead and said, aren't you
talking about the Colm Games this week? And I said, yes,
yes we are. And he goes, there's a fun fact
on my lid, and I went, this is a gift
from the beer gods. From the beer gods, so I
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have brought in said lid. She hasn't. She got to
read to you a fact that it's so fun. A
beer company thought it was relevant to put under a top.
I do not even know anyway. Here we go, here
we go at the nineteen Oh no.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's scrubbed off.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Oh fact, the fact has been compromised because it turns
out printing them on the bottom of a bottle cap
is not very.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think it says at the nineteen sixty five games
question mark fact check fact. At the nineteen sixty five
Comnwealth Games, every single Aussie diver won a medal.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh, shut up, that is fun.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Let's find out if it was the game in sixty five,
because it can also.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
If we weren't even numbers, sure.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That not every every I'm really trying.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You can hang on, now I have the bottle cap. Okay,
nineteen sixty six? Are you blind?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Apparently? Is it sixty six?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sixty six?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh? There you go, Yeah, that makes sense. Sixty six
It would have to be even it's a games. Oh
my god, my two brain cells that are knocking around anyway,
Diving no longer a Commonwealth game sport. Oh but every
diver one.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's crazy, that's mental. I wonder how many every diver
won a medal. We do always punch above our weight
in the diving exactly. Well, look look how fun that
fact was, and sadly no fun facts like that heading
into Glasgow possible.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'm off to get my eyes.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I cannot begin to tell you, dear listeners, how easy
this was.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It is speckled. Okay, it's aged anyway. Thank you for
listening and helping me see with two Good Sports in
Sports News told me differently. Again. I know that we
said it off the top, but thank you so much
for the feedback and reaction to our last episode. We
it was really overwhelming and we're prepreciate it so much.
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As always, you can follow us on Instagram at two
Good Sports Podcast. We'll catch you next week, but until then, Georgie,
you be a good sport
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm Georgie Tunny and I'm Abby Jelmy, and my goodness,
has it been an overwhelming week of just feeling so
privileged that we get to do what we do and
your feedback on our last episode, Yeah, the term is overwhelming.
We were inundated with messages about how you'd felt the
same yep in the reaction to the GWS scandal, but
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also just that women in sport need a voice.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
George, Yes, yeah, And I think what hit me most,
Jelmy was all of the wonderful feedback from all of
the listeners, thank you for sending it in, But it
was the messages from our colleagues as well. Yes, and
all of the women who have fought like us, so
hard and for so long to get a space at
the table, whether that be at the back, in the
back corner of the room, but at least they're in
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the room. Who was saying thank you for voicing this
and speaking about it so eloquently, which is great for
us because I remember us recording that episode being very
highly charged and not quite sure what was coming out
of our mouth.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That I also couldn't breathe.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yes, there were layers to theas there were layers, but
to know that we were kind of speaking on behalf
of a cohort and that that cohort really did accept
and thank us for that and we communicated their thoughts
is something that will stay with me for a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. And we shared some personal stories too, and to
have them received the way they were. Although I mean,
the headline that came out of my story was Channel
seven presenter in disgusting photo incident, which I just feel
paints me seven and a half months pregnant in a
really odd light.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So in my mind I see that, I see that
headline and I'm like, oh my god, what was she
doing licking an escalator?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Give me a call?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But we do. While we're on the topic of the giants,
we did want to have a correction because, as we
had both mentioned in the episode, but perhaps because of
our vitriol, we didn't get to it as early as
what we should have. We both highly respect the Giants
as an institution and have had.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All of our dealings with them have always been positive.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And they have a lot of strong women in their
leadership group within the club that have been there for
a very long time, and one of them reached out
to us and thanked us for the episode, but also
just wanted to clarify that the club certainly didn't sit
idly by when these allegations were made, which is what
had been reported and what we reiterated. The club worked
hand in hand and recommended sanctions with the AFL, including
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those that were handed down to the leaders, and took
it very seriously. They did, And I think that what
we really want to stress is that as much as
the Giants were the example that had led to us
really unpacking this cultural issue within the AFL, they are
not the exception to the rule no, and that it's
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a wider commentary that we were making, and we believe
they've got all the right people in place to be
able to rectify this.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but pats on the back all round to everyone
who listened to that episode took.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Shared it as well, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The responses Jelmy has said was overwhelming. And therefore you
all are our good sports of the week. So thank
you very very much. It meant a lot to us.
This is one of the only times I can remember
in my career that I've had only positive feedback.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Same and we were ready for pitchforks.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah we were.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We were, which probably says a lot about our audience.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It does, so it's really lovely. But of course, Jelmy,
we are about balance, so I have to have a
bad sport as well in this episode, and I am
going toward that to myself because when I saw the
news that Australia had lost the Constellation Cup in netball
Australia in New Zealand, we lost to New Zealand for
(04:05):
the first time in Australia since twenty nineteen. This is
only the third time that New Zealand has actually won
the Constellation Cup in history. Did I swear and stamp
my feet like a toddler? Yes, yes I did, Yes,
I did. So bad sport to me, because sometimes you
know what, emotions just get the better of you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I think it is one of the great rivalries
in sport Australia New Zealand in netball, and it always
seems to go down to the dying seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yes, yes, and always people always come at me like
when Queensland won eight in a row, nine out of
ten series straight in the state of origin, They're like,
don't you want New South Wales to win? So it's
a bit more interesting? No, no, no, I don't. I
don't so well done New Zealand. The actual playing cohort
there at the moment is freaking scary.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So yeah, but bringing netball up is a great topic
because it is one of the ten sports that I
needed to make the cut for the Glasgow Comnwealth Games. Now,
this Georgie is one of the first topics that we
covered on Two Good Sports, essentially going is it costing
six maybe seven billion dollars for Victoria to host this event?
(05:14):
And what is going to happen with it? Well, we
haven't touched on it since, but there's been developments this
week that have really made us think is this format
viable going forward? And is this the beginning of the
end for the Commonwealth Games. That's what we're discussing today.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Jell mey, our dear listeners may have been able to
hear my little cackles just as you were introducing this
week's topic, because I tell you what, I haven't laughed
like I have laughed whenever we talk about the Commonwealth,
games about your passion for it and how you're like,
what in the hell is happening? Someone give me an answer.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You go red. The house is on fire, the houses
on fire, and no one cares.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And it's one of my favorite topics in the world.
So this is me and Pens. This is me building,
putting the last little nail into the soap box that
I have constructed here, and I am ready for Jellny
to take it away.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Where are we Well, I'm going to wax lyrical and
take you on a different journey to start with, because George,
if you were anywhere near a TV in the last week,
you would have seen Charles and his mate Camilla parade
around Sydney to hundreds of adoring monarchists in what was
a very royal visit. The opera house was lit up.
I mean they did snub royal ramwik people read to
(06:46):
see him. At the races, they didn't go. Leaders were met,
hands were shook, sausages were turned in what was the
world's most awkward barbecue, and Camilla proved she was just
like the rest of us, by taking off her shoes
and dare to go barefoot back up the stairs after
a long day of service, allah leaving the Flemington members
after one too many champagnes. Turns out they are just
(07:10):
one of us. But it was largely hailed a success.
The Australian Republic Movement dubbed it the Farewell Os Tour, however,
saying the vast majority of Australians confirmed that they continue
to see the monarchy as irrelevant to modern Australia. How
does this link back to sport? Are you asking, Well,
here are two good sports. We don't want to discuss
(07:31):
the relevance of the Commonwealth in modern society, but we
sure as hell do want to discuss the very real
decline in relevance of the Commonwealth Games in the modern
sporting landscape, its viability and the slim down version to
feature only ten sports in Glasgow twenty twenty six, which
is ironically announced while the two monarchs were swanning around Sydney.
(07:54):
You know, Australia, the country that dropped the ball and
led us to this tiere, a miss that we Victorians
are still paying hundreds of millions of dollars to host nothing,
to host nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What I would love producer James to do here is insert.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Around the ball. I'm just we're in so much debt,
Victoria is in so much debt, and we have spent
three hundred and eighty million dollars to have.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Nothing, to have nothing. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So we'll take you back to that and how we've
got to that point, George, So you take it away.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well tell me because as you recall, I know, because
it lives in your mind. Rent free is what we're seeing.
But what our listeners may not necessarily recall is that
in July last year, Victoria abruptly Withdrew as the host
of the twenty twenty six Commonwealth Games. We talked about
it a little bit at the time, but one note
(08:53):
that we actually could not get our wrap our heads
around was when the then Premier Daniel Andrews said that
it was going to cost too much money, was going
to be too high, blowing out from two point seven billion,
which was the forecast, to six maybe seven becoming the
count from Sesame Street eight ha ha ha nine ha ha.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And he said that it was quote to quote him.
I've made a lot of difficult decisions in this job.
This is not one of them. It's never sat with
us that particular call. It doesn't make sense. We've always
been like, excuse me, hang on, can you explain the numbers.
We're just not sure, bah bah. And as we have
gone on, we've seen that it hasn't sat that well
(09:40):
with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And the reason why Victoria got this over the line,
and it was a pre election promise, was that it
was going to be a rural games and they were
going to build infrastructure in regional Victoria and that's why
they pulled it, essentially just saying the cost of production
has blown out so much for these venues that we
(10:02):
promised that we would build that we just can't be
seen to be prioritizing six maybe seven billion dollars on
a one off event when there's a housing crisis. No shit, Sherlock.
But we have been left so the State Auditor General
found that five hundred and eighty nine million had already
(10:22):
been spent on the games that never went ahead. That
figure includes three hundred and eighty million in compensation to
the Commonwealth Games Federation, of which two hundred million has
now been given to Glasgow to go can you do
something with this shit sandwich? Like, can you please rescue this?
So the Scottish government agreed for a rescue deal for
(10:45):
a scaled down version of the twenty twenty six Games,
with where a multimillion pound commitment was made by Australian
authorities to save the event. Now they hosted the Games
in twenty fourteen, yes, and they were seen as an
overwhelming success. But you'll remember Emingham only hosted the last
Commonwealth Games, also rescuing this format. Yes, so without footing
(11:08):
most of the bill, Glasgow are getting to host and
we are just having the check how does this all
check out? And how more the point, did we not
think of hosting a scale down games when we have
all the infrastructure and we hosted the Commonwealth Games recently.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Which is actually what I thought at the time. The
Commonwealth Games Committee, who we have since paid one hundreds
of millions dollars of compensation to did suggest like that
was part of all of their workings, being like, hang
on a second, let's not cancel, let's not cancel everything.
Maybe we can just like rework some things. We can
figure it out. I feel like that was a conversation
that wasn't entertained by the Victorian government and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yet the Scots had it. And I thought, you know
what I'm going to find. I'm gonna hear a barometer
for how the Scottish feeling to have the Comonwealth Games.
And this was the first podcast that popped up that
I'm found talking about the Games. And if it is
a reflection of the general view, it's bloody funny.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I mean, it's a Mackey Moosh Games in Wow, Lord Shay,
We're already heard it in twenty fourteen and it's coming
back in twenty twenty. Stays because Melbourne, the state of
Victorian a shoeshes we can't afford to put it on.
She when can we afford to put it on? Believe,
can you know what it's going to end up going?
Shaudi Arabia. I should order bout sporting events school because
(12:35):
they get the fucking money. He put them on because
they've got all the money in the world and we're
all fucking skin.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So he has a point. Cost he's a massive issue.
But the come Wealth Games Australia boss Craig Phillips said, look,
we were happy to talk to the Victorian government about
finding ways of saving costs of the game. If eliminating
sports from the program was a part of that, we
certainly would have had the conversation. I've been on the
record as saying we didn't really get that opportunity to
(13:08):
have that conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
They weren't interested. The Victorian government wasn't interested in saving
these games. They they didn't want them to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Is that because like Devil's advocate here, building the infrastructure
is the only reason the spend was justified. Yes, and
if they did a scale down games, those in the
region would have said, well, you've got your sport, but
your billion dollar promise to us to make these stadiums
and for these hotels and for this tourism were taken
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from us.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think that that is fair, and I do think
that as a whole, the Commonwealth Games or large scale
events like this, they are politically noxious like they they
put a bad taste in people's mouths when you're talking
about it when so many people are struggling, there's no
denying we're seeing that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
With Brisbane at the moment for the Olympic Game.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Where's our stadium of which we were the only ones
that bid.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's the thing. Is it seen as this big coup
that we got it? Yeah, no one else wanted it.
But we mentioned off the top that it was a
Dan Andrews government. That again Dan Andrews who's getting a
statue and he's honor for all of his services to Victoria.
But we'll leave that there. Jacinta Allen was actually in
charge of this bid. Oh yes, she was coming back
to me the Now premiere. Yes, that's right, and she
(14:25):
this week was queried about o make King and Queen
being in the country and also about the Goldwealth Game.
So let's have listened to what she had to say
to Tom Elliott on three aw the.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Commonwealth Games that there's a theory doing the rounds that
you didn't want to see the king because you're embarrassed
about the Commonwealth Games?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that true? No?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No, Why are.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You refusing to release all the information about the decision
making on the Commonwealth.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We we've released a significant amount of information. Plus the
Order to General has examined this issue and he's released
his report. We always said it was the most the
Order to General was the appropriate with the pro independent agency,
independent agency to have a review of that decision, and
he's released his report. And meanwhile, Tom, what we're getting
on with is those investments in regional Victoria, which was
(15:11):
why why we looked at this in the first place.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You go to Glasgow.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Will you go to Glasgow in two years and watch it?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I doubt it?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
No, Right, I'll be focused Tom on building more homes
here in Victoria, not heading off overseas to a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Not going on holiday, building houses, Tom, building houses, Tom.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, moving right along, Tom.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Moving right along us. Because we've mentioned the ten sports
and I'm sure you're going which ones made the cut? Yeah,
and the.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Scaled down version of the Comonwalk games that will be
taking place in Glasgow that Victoria is essentially paying to
put on.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So they will take place from Thursday, the twenty third
of July to Sunday the second of August in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's actually terrifyingly not that far away.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's not that far away at all. A total of
three thousand athletes are expected to compete. That's about half
the number of athletes that we saw at Birmingham. This thoughts,
that will feature rum roll here we go, athletics and
para athletics, track and field, swimming and para swimming, artistic gymnastics,
feel track cycling and para track cycling, netball, weightlifting and
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para powerlifting, boxing, judo bowls and para bowls, three by
three basketball and three by three wheelchair basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I'm just looking down the list. I don't seem to
see hockey.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
No hockey, or diving, or road cycling or badmington or
beach volleyball or cricket our. Aussie women not able to
defend their gold.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, rugby sevens No rugby sevens.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Mountain biking, rhythmic gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Which I actually love. I will always fight for rhythmic gymnastic.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
If it is on your watching, you are watching, you
can't look away. The hoop a chance to compete without
Russia and America come jam table jennis and power table tennis.
And you've got to think about the para athletes here
as well. So para table tennis, gone triathlon and para
triathlon and wrestling.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Huge, huge, so a lot a lot of big outs,
a lot of really really big out.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
The headline for me, there is hockey.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, for sure, for sure, the Kookoa baros and the
hockey RWs. Obviously they dominate. At the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We want to combine fourteen medals, including seven straight gold
for the men's team. Well that's unfortunately. Do you know
why we love the comm Games, Georgie. We win, we win.
We locked the floor with them, let us win, and
they've just taken it from us. You know what.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
We love to win on home.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Soil, and diving is a big one too. So diving
a bit in every edition dating back to nineteen thirty
of the Empire Games, and road cycling had featured since
nineteen thirty eight. And I mean we didn't have a
strong road cycling contingent in the Olympics. Oh wait, we
did Grace Brown our first gold the Games, so I
(18:01):
wasn't looking forward to seeing that one as well. But
Commonwealth Games, Georgie. Why I get emotional about it, and
there are many reasons, is it serves so much of
a purpose in our Australian sporting landscape. I mean, you
think Kathy in ninety four when she held both the
Australian and the Indigenous flag and in nineteen ninety when
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she was the first Indigenous woman to win gold for
Australia Yep. Those moments happened at a Commonwealth Games. There
are memories and people that would have been inspired by
the Games on the Gold Coast that are now competing
at an Olympic level and that chance to have wear
the Green and gold and feel that level of pressure
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can't be replicated.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, And this is the thing about the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
One.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think we need to talk about the incredible sense
of community that it engenders for everyone who does.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Take apart, it's the friendly game, it is.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's the Friendly Games. You see the power program integrated,
which is huge, which is amazing because all that para
athletes want is to be put on the same platform
and the Commonwealth Games is one of the best events
to do that. I also think that because there are
some of these sports that aren't represented at an Olympic level.
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I was talking to queenly Zellis last week, yes, about
exactly what those Commonwealth goals that she won in her
career and that competition meant to her and it means
the world. I was talking to Karen Murphy, the champion
lawn bowler who was just inducted into the Sports Australia
Hall of Fame. Yes that's how good she was. And
(19:39):
it's like, don't you don't get to replicate. You don't
get to have that moment at an Olympic Games. You
have to have it at the Commonwealth Games. And if
you're taking that away from all of these other sports,
you're taking those opportunities away for those athletes. Oh, it
doesn't sit well with me. Regardless of what you think
about the Commonwealth. There are so many republics that compete,
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so many republic nations compete at the Commonwealth Games. You know, like,
it's it can't be, it can't be. Shouldn't be this
hard to hope to have them.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I just think in the global climate at the moment,
with how expensive these events are, once you take sports
off the table, it's really hard to add them back on. Yes,
and I think like all Powder Glasgow for throwing a
lifeline here so that we actually have the Commonwealth Games.
But once you remove something, it's very, very hard to
(20:32):
add it back on. I agree. So the question is
is this, Let's be honest, they look like school carnival events.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh yes, yeah. Fun fact three buy three basketball?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Know is that because it can happen in someone's driveway,
like you don't have to build the infrastructure. Is that it?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I got to say, that wasn't one of my favorite
events that was added to the Paris program. Yeah, I
wasn't sure about that. Fun fact. Queenly's also calls the
Olympics a glorified swimming carnival that will can't be there,
So yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I love it. She is the greatest, But I it hurts.
It does?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It does, And I think you're right, Jemmy. Does this
then mean that there will be a time when we
don't see the Commonwealth Games? I think it's teetering on
the edge. I honestly do. I think we could go
one of two ways where it doesn't exist. But then
where is the platform for our elite athletes to compete.
I know you'll have World Champs, but it's not the same.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's also the accessibility for mine. So if you wanted
to get to Paris, my goodness, bring your check book. Yes,
if you were a sporting family and wanted to take
your kids and expose them to that opportunity, you need
it to be in the top one percentile of people
earning around the world. In order to get the flights
we had athletes saying how exorbitant the tickets were, yep,
(21:48):
and just accommodation everything else because of the scale of
it all. When you think about the Commonwealth Games, you
same bolt ran and won at a Commonwealth Games. Emma
mckeehon is our most deck rated Commonwealth Games athlete, like,
these are the best that we've ever seen in the world,
and you could go for cheaper yeah, and your family
(22:09):
could actually stay in those areas like it was viable.
And again it's the feel good games. I just a
really really worry. And again, unless it goes to Saudi Arabia,
who can really afford to be hosting these events? And
we've seen it with the FIFA with the World Cup
being split across different nations because no one country in
(22:31):
the current climate can put their hand up to host it.
So not only does this bring into question the Commonwealth
Games and its viability, but also the Olympic Games, which
just makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You can't complain about Saudi shareholders taking over world sport
if you don't fight for it yourself. And I know
that it's not a level playing field, but you've got
to at least look as though that you want it.
And with the Commonwealth Games. I just don't know if
that's if that's it, because there are genuine questions to
be raised about it being a financial element. Those are genuine.
You know, Birmingham still struggling after it hosted a couple
(23:02):
of years ago, like it's still struggling financially in the
wake of that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
In what was seen as a very successful games, it
has had a negative fiscal impact.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What we're saying is we will always be advocating for
the athletes because the opportunities for them to make a living,
to be full time professional athletes are dwindling.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And do you know what makes me go, ah, yeah,
that's a direct quote, is all of this paves way
for the Enhanced Games. It's true, George, it is because
if you're getting one hundred thousand American dollars just to
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qualify as an athlete, and they have a scaled down
programer think of only five sports, so it's going to
be a lot more viable to host.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
The future is scary.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It is scary and potentially druggy. It's a real geniure's
another quote. But my thing, I love the Commonwealth Games.
They're the feel good games. I think the integration of
the power program is something that cannot be underestimated in
terms of its power of bringing us all together. And
(24:19):
when you watch Australians win, there's something about it that
feels really good. And we win a lot at the
Common Games. So don't take it from me us tell
me yes, okay us everyone, But twenty twenty six is
not too far away. We wait and see.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah yeah, and hey, they better be an Australian flag
put somewhere. We're paying for the Games after all.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you think there is another Commonwealth Games after Glasgow? Yes,
I'm not so sure, Georgie. Yes, it's time for our
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favorite segment, fun facts. Sometimes they just land in your lap.
One of our favorite fun facts there's a pineapple on
top of the Winwooden Trophy. It came to me while
I was watching Gold You win a Larry Emda on
the chase. I love the chase. Judge me accordingly. Yesterday
my dear at the half was having a well earned
(25:27):
beer because he's been doing a lot of the heavy
handed parenting at the moment because I can't lift anything.
And he looked at the lead and said, aren't you
talking about the Colm Games this week? And I said, yes,
yes we are. And he goes, there's a fun fact
on my lid, and I went, this is a gift
from the beer gods. From the beer gods, so I
(25:47):
have brought in said lid. She hasn't. She got to
read to you a fact that it's so fun. A
beer company thought it was relevant to put under a top.
I do not even know anyway. Here we go, here
we go at the nineteen Oh no.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's scrubbed off.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Oh fact, the fact has been compromised because it turns
out printing them on the bottom of a bottle cap
is not very.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think it says at the nineteen sixty five games
question mark fact check fact. At the nineteen sixty five
Comnwealth Games, every single Aussie diver won a medal.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh, shut up, that is fun.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Let's find out if it was the game in sixty five,
because it can also.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
If we weren't even numbers, sure.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That not every every I'm really trying.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You can hang on, now I have the bottle cap. Okay,
nineteen sixty six? Are you blind?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Apparently? Is it sixty six?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sixty six?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh? There you go, Yeah, that makes sense. Sixty six
It would have to be even it's a games. Oh
my god, my two brain cells that are knocking around anyway,
Diving no longer a Commonwealth game sport. Oh but every
diver one.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's crazy, that's mental. I wonder how many every diver
won a medal. We do always punch above our weight
in the diving exactly. Well, look look how fun that
fact was, and sadly no fun facts like that heading
into Glasgow possible.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'm off to get my eyes.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I cannot begin to tell you, dear listeners, how easy
this was.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It is speckled. Okay, it's aged anyway. Thank you for
listening and helping me see with two Good Sports in
Sports News told me differently. Again. I know that we
said it off the top, but thank you so much
for the feedback and reaction to our last episode. We
it was really overwhelming and we're prepreciate it so much.
(28:00):
As always, you can follow us on Instagram at two
Good Sports Podcast. We'll catch you next week, but until then, Georgie,
you be a good sport
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