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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Will and what do you hope you're having a great
drive home.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
The naked chef Jamie Oliver joined the boys.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
The canned clapping is amazing. It's so good for my ego.
Bless you off my off, Mike. I mean, you kind
of wish you were the naked chef with us at
the moment. It's been hot and heavy. I'm still naked
from from shirt down, which I am free ball in
this morning. What is going on? What is going on?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
When did this tension begin? When did this tension begin?
What's going on? I feel like five years ago?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it's just we keep being separated
by a screen. I know.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
We keep talking about the fact that if we ever
do meet in person, it's just going to be far
too electric for anyone to handle.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Did this kick off, because first of all, I think
you rocked up naked to the opening of Jamie's Italian
in Perth.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I did.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And then I remember last time we spoke to Jamie,
he was talking about the fact that he had a
ribbon tied around his penis. So yeah, I mean we've
kind of gone blow for blow, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We haven't really yeah, we haven't really elevated conversation. We've
kept it at a base level, but I think, look,
I can work on many levels. We can go philosophical,
we can go like social good, we can go culinary,
or we can go bottom of the barrel.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
So it's your So you're saying, with the five interviews
we've had you.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Maybe it's time. Maybe our parents would just roll their
eyes and I can't believe they get paid to do
this for a job.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Last time we spoke, I think we were talking about
together memorable meals made easy. I want to thank you
on behalf of me and my partner because the name
is on the tin there. If we don't have something
to eat, that is the easiest, most accessible cookbook, and
I reckon we would cook from that twice a week
and genuinely, well, so thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well that's my job at the end of the day,
Like I just want people to cook, and in a
world where people are cooking less than ever, like simple
simple things, so simple that's come from just to take
some stuff, do stuff to it, and eat a delicious meal,
get into it, feel the pride, feel the love, and
then spend time, whether it's just a dinner party or

(02:09):
whether it's a birthday party or whatever the occasion.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
We always used to get to the point where we go,
let's get let's just go tober Eats, or like, let's
just go to the park. Hard to go to the
pub now with a child, but we just go. Let's
just get over it. So let's just get take away
and sem now insists, She's like, no, no, no, just let
me just let me have a looking here and she'll
make something in like twenty minutes. And it's a really
nice process. I sit at the kitchen bench, have a
glass of wine, we talk, and the food is actually
really delicious. You've actually been a really instrument of change there,

(02:35):
So thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm grateful. I mean, it genuinely makes me so happy
when I hear stories like that.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I do have a question, Jamie on the recipe. The
new one is called simply Jamie, And you always have
in here the time that it takes to cook.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
The meals for regular average people.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay, they're interested, So for regular average people, that's fascinating.
So the golden pork and creamy pepper sauce such a
specific time here, Jamie of twenty four minutes, that feels
like you've done some sort of test there and you've
decided that that will take you twenty four minutes.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Who's the test on, Jamie. So here's the thing. We
test everything four times inside my HQ and then at
least twice outside with strangers, and then like I'll do
the master ddit and I have to average out the
cooking times. So I think like people always say, like,
how is it that you sell so many cookbooks? And
the thing is like, you have to test everything. When
in the early days when I was working for other people,

(03:29):
I used to get phone calls all the time saying,
you've missed out an ingredient in the method on the
ingredients and you haven't put the right amount of that
and I've spent fifty quid and I've wasted it now
and like what you got to say about So I
used to see that with my other bosses who had
written books, and I'm like, I'm never doing that. So
probably every recipe I right cost me about eighteen hundred
pounds to test. And if you've done one hundred, if

(03:51):
you've done one hundred recipes, that's one hundred and eighty
grand before I've even like put a book out so wow.
When people say, like, how do you sell so many,
It's like, I think it comes back to trust and
being really forensic, really rigorous, and all the boring that
my job is to do all the boring thinking. So like,
for instance, in this book, this book was inspired by
the fact that people have never cooked less than now.

(04:13):
And also I know exactly what's in your basket, so
basket data never lies. So if you look through the chapters,
there's only five like we got like midweek meals. You know,
if you look through that, I know that most people
buy Sam and Phillips and they're bored of it. So
here's ten ways to not make you bored of it.
I've got no cook pasta sources, you know, because people
are short of times, so it's like, cool, use one pan,
let's washing up. Like these are all kind of crudeo

(04:35):
sources that are really really good. So throughout the book,
hopefully you're seeing code, like there's just these little solutions
to people that are time poor. You know, we're like
four generations of people that haven't learned to cook at
home or at school. You know, it's better that it's
your mum or your nan or your nonor but like
you're kind of lumbered with people like me. Did your
nonna inspire you? Jamie? Definitely? Yeah. I mean she my nan.

(04:56):
I'm gonna have one that worked in like a pub restaurant,
and she just could make incredible food out of not
much and really real comfort food. And I'd like to
think that shines throughout all of my work. And then
my other nan was another great cook, but it was
always a tin or a jar. She was like a
post war nan, and you'd open she goes, well what
if we got and she'd open these drawers and it'd
just be nothing but tins. But then she'd cooked this

(05:18):
incredible food stuff that made you feel hugged. Oh that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I can't imagine anything better than a hug from Jamie
Oliver's grandma. Hey writ it next, Jamie, I know, I've
got a wild story about you proposing in front of
a grave.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah bloody yeh yeah yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Will the morning more with Jamie Oliver?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It makes kiss Will And what do you hope you're
having a great drive? I'm Jamie Oliver is in the studios.
So Jamie I saw recently on his socials that you
did your wedding renewal vowels with jewels your partner, and
then in Vegas recently afterwards. But I want to ask

(05:54):
you about how you proposed to Jules.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'll do the short story because I won't do it justice.
It's it's sort of sad, like so oh god. So
Juliet's dad got really ill when she was nine. I'm
gonna watch your smiley faces go. So he had a
stroke when she was nine, and he and it really
affected her childhood. And then I was lucky enough to
know him and ask her him for her marriage marriage

(06:19):
and he said, no, you're too young, and her mum went, yes,
take her. But sadly he wasn't alive for the wedding,
and so I proposed to jewels in the pouring rain
on Christmas Eve over his grave, which sounds really I
know it sounds sad, but it was more out of
respect for wanting to do it in front of him,

(06:40):
even though he wasn't alive. So I know, anyway, it's
a bit dark for the radio, but it was. It was.
She never asked did you go to the grave with
that in mind or to just come? I was a plan.
It was a vile dark time, but such a beautiful thing.

(07:02):
We go every Christmas so she can pay her respects,
and it's always like a sad thing. So I wanted
to sort of like break the cycle of sadness by
something that was about the future and optimistic. And that's
where my romance starts. It does get better, it's so nice,
but no, I think it's look, it's all anyone that's
felt grief, Like grief is a terrible thing, and it's
like and you've got to have black humor, and but

(07:24):
also like how do you turn a negative into a positive?
So that was my attempt.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
We always received well or was she like not.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
In the ground? Yeah, no, she loved it. And look,
we didn't have any money in those days, and I'd
saved up for this beautiful ring. She said yes, and
we did get married and we've yeah, we did do
the marriage renewal. It's supposed to be twenty years now.
I think she's got hooked on it because a year
later we went and did it in Las Vegas again.
So we but you know what the press are like,
they just kind of like, why are they getting married?

(07:54):
Maybe it's because he's guilty, because it's all going wrong,
and it's like, no, no, I keep getting married because
my wife's crazy and she loves Elvis and she just
loves getting married. I don't know why. So because for
any man that's an experienced married man listening, it's like
you say yes and you do what you're told, and
that is part of the way you have a happy marriage.
It's like that's the secret. That's the secret. Just say yes, yes, yes, Hey,

(08:21):
before you go. I think I did as clear as
that with you.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I saw you posted this on your SOCIALID the other
day as well, and I just think to just clarify.
I know you'll be a jet ay going.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
On right, Okay, Day one in Sydney and I've got
properly tugged out. Went to Ama Williams. These o the
most beautiful boots. So there you go. That is my
Aussie cowboy vibes, Jules. There you go, you like a cowboy. Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
So in Australia, if you say that you've been properly
tugged out, is that it might have been to a
message parlor for the afternoon, I reckon, really, And then
if you said you've been down the street and you
get tugged out, then I'd be thinking that, yeah, oh no,
I didn't get and then you've got to have nothing
from m R Williams.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm dyslexic a little way around. Yeah no I did.
I bought the most beautiful boots, but I couldn't even
say the name properly because I was jet lagged and dyslexic.
Just for clarity, when you get all tugged out in
the UK means you get, you get all go armed up,
you get like, you get a nice outfit. Look there
you go. And also, my miss is other than loving.
Elvis loves cowboys so like anything that the idea of

(09:31):
an ozsy cowboy is quite erotic. So as I go
towards my fiftieth year, I have to try hard. Has
the cowboy look worked so far? Jamie. I put an
outfit on and looked at myself in the mirror, and
I thought, if I was Jewels, I would, So I
hope when I get home, we're going to get lucky,
get tugged out. Who Knowsie? What I love? What I

(09:56):
love is that by the silence of the response from
both of you and probably all of your listeners, everyone's
like he's getting nothing, mate, He's getting nothing. He's even
he can't even say m R Williams. There's no togging
going on there.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Jamie Fast and Simples on your TV's Friday the fifteenth
and seven thirty, ten and ten. Play and Simply Jamie
by Jamie Oliver, as available now in all Good bookstores.
It's his eighty eighth cookbooll Coop and he just wait
twenty chiefs pumping around. It's so good to see you, mate,
and confuse a bit of the sexual tension in the room.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Listen. It's going to happen one day, and when it happens,
it's going to be special. Let's not just go frustraight interview.
Let's pre produce it, Let's pre plan it. Let's have food,
Let's have live cooking. I'll bring the telescopic pole and
I'm going to get all I'm going to get all
togged out and we are going to make this party happen.
And we're going and we're going live so your producers

(10:58):
can't even like stop it, bleep it or control it.
It's going to be great, beautiful thing, fair place we're in.
Thanks for coming on the show.
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