September 2, 2024 • 24 mins
Wow wow WOW! Missy Higgins joined us for a chat about her new album and performed a new song from the album along with one of her all time classics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Special treat for everyone because Missy Higgins is in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Miss you.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Geez, what a bill?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
What are your production You've got a lot going on, man,
I really do Jesus.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
A big year. I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
How does it feel to hear the stats read out
like that, Missy? Like twenty six ARIA nominations, nine wins
at the Arias, You're going to be inducted into the
Hall of Fame. How does that sit with you when
you hear that back?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It feels like maybe I should be dying or something.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
You know, it's the kind of things people read out
about you when you're on your deathbed. Look at all
she's achieved now she's about to leave us.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's a shame that people reserve that sort of stuff. Yeah, dying, right, Yeah,
not dying, yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Right, Hopefully I won't die for a while. I feel
like I've got a few more albums in me. But yeah,
I there's just a lot has happened this year that's
been really incredible, Like, I honestly can't quite believe it,
especially the Hall of Fame stuff, that's just, oh my god,
it's such an incredible honor.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm still that's wild.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, mate, I was having a look at some of
the other inductees, but obviously some of the other women,
because we had Tena Arena on this show a little
while ago, and we were saying to her she was
the first woman to win an Album of the Year,
like in like nineteen ninety nine or something ridiculous, it's crazy.
And then so I'm just looking back at some of
the other women who have been inducted, and obviously, you know,
(01:36):
naturally there's not a man and not a woman who's
involved until much later on.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
There's so many dudes. But the women that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're joining, Olivia Newton, John Kylie, Tina Arena, obviously you
Casey Chambers was the most recent one as well, Marsha
Heines like pretty amazing names.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I know, to be in the same sentences, I.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Know, Yeah, it's an incredible honor. I remember when Tina
Arena got into I was at that Arias and the
Veronicas and Jessica Malboy did a song with her, did
one of dons, and it was so epic. Everyone was
on their feet and pumping their fists in the air
and singing along and I just remember being yeah, I
(02:17):
was full of shivers, and just I was watching those guys,
you know, just the younger generation and the older generation
all kind of inspiring each other and working together and
very inspired watching that.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Citional to hear you talking about being inspired by seeing
people that were you know before you and seeing the
younger generation get around their music, because Missy, you're now
in that position where the younger generation is getting inspired
by your music.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, we're talking about Angie McMartin moore because I know
you popped up on stage with her a few times,
and that was my favorite record of the year, and
to hear her talk about how much she loved.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You made me feel very old. That was so red hot.
I can't believe I.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Get that's my favorite record too.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Don't get me started. Everyone the team's going, don't.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I've been going on about it as well. Actually, and
one of the songs on my new album.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Was inspired by that album.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh wow, but.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, she's amazing. I Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
It's funny because I never realized how much my first album,
the kind of impact that it made until literally maybe
the last year or two, people have started coming out
and talking about it being an influence to them.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And after you got inducted, they all jumped on.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think it's like, you know.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It's been around for almost twenty years now, and people
are maybe just getting old enough to have realized, oh
maybe you know, looking back, maybe at why they started
and then talking about it. But it's it's my favorite
thing is to hear that I've inspired someone to start songwriting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I was reading earlier that however, people have interpreted this
song for them. This song was the specialty was about
you and your sister at that time, and that's what
twenty years ago now that you guys had a fight
or some tension is Yeah, there was.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
A bit of tension over a boy that we both liked,
and that had never really happened before. Like, she's eight
years older than me, so she'd always I don't know,
she'd been kind of like a mother figure to me
in so many ways. And then all of a sudden,
I was a woman like i'd become, you know, eighteen
nineteen years old, and we found ourselves in the same
(04:23):
kind of playing field.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Oh it was good.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
It was really awkward, and we'd never we'd never fancied
the same person before, and I overstepped the line.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Let's just leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
She wasn't happy with me, and I was just I
just felt really horrible for kind of portraying her or
just breaking the sister code, and I wrote her this
song as kind of an apology letter.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I've also heard you say recently that when you were
writing music for the Sound of White, it was a
bit like you were writing in a secret die and
then putting that into songs. And at the time you
didn't think that many people were going to hear it,
so it was okay. But then obviously the Sound of
White was this huge, huge success.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Is it a bit scary for you? You know, because
I write.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
In a journal and there's some things that I write
down in my journal when I'm not thinking about anyone
else reading it, that I would actually be mortified for
people to hear, because it's very very private stuff. Is
it scary for you knowing how many people are going
to have access to exactly what you were thinking or
going through in a certain time.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, for some reason, it's not, and I'm not quite
sure why. I mean, there's this stuff in my diary
that I'd be absolutely humiliated if anyone read. But I
guess when I put it into song I do it
in a kind of poetic way, and I like, I
think about it for many, many weeks, and I work
(05:53):
on these songs and I craft them up to be,
you know, a piece of art, and they're trying to
convey something deeper than what I'm going through. Specifically, they're
trying to convey kind of the universal truth at the
heart of them. So it's not like it's literally a
page for my diary, but it is. It is very confessional.
It's just kind of thought out to be a little
(06:15):
bit more poetic and a bit more beautiful than.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just oh my god, Tony's such an asshole.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I'd listen to Tony's such an asshole news song on
the new album I believe, Missy.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, that's the next album.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, as we were just saying about this song, the
special too, I'm sure it has meant so many different
things to so many different people. The Sound of Why
Its celebrated its twentieth anniversary this year, Missie, the piano
is in front of you. If you would do us
the honors, we would be a very grateful audience.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Whenever you're ready.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I mean, it seems like a good opportunity. I have
a piano in front of it. Coincidence?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
What's this doing here?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
We said, a trap? We want to do it before.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
I've hardly been outside my room in days because I
don't feel that I deserve. The sun shines rays, the
darkness held until the whiskey wore away, and who is
(07:37):
Then I realized that the conscience never fades. When you're young,
you have this image.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Of your life.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
The UBI screwuss in one day, even make a wife,
and you may boundary easy you'd never dream to cross.
Then if you happen to awake complete little loss that
(08:13):
I will fight. Be sure that I will fight until
the special tu once sick, and we will only in
need each other. We'll breathe together, our hands will not
(08:35):
be insured to hold another's and.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
With a specialty. I remember someone old one.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Said to me, the lies will lock you up, with
truth the only key. Oh but I was comfortable and
I was warm inside my shell, and I couldn't see
this place.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Could suit become my heir? So is it better to
tell and.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Hurt or lie to save their face? I guess the
answer is don't do it in the first place. I
know I'm not deserve and I.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Your trust from you. I know, Oh, very bad chance
it change your mind.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
You know I will not let you down because we
were the specialty and will be again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And we will only need it. Shudder.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
We'll breathe together. Our hands will not be said a
hold another's and like a special suit and we could
alst see it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Shudder.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
We'll bleed together, these arms will not be soured a hold.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Another's because what a special two step outside my mind's
eyes for a minute and the look of me like
a doctor looking for disease. Smon, a good day's the bag.
Nothing cures the hurts you.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
Oh yeah, Bryon by yourself, just remembering, just remembering.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If we know we were.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
And we were all indeedios shudder, wellbury together hands we'll
not bitsid no hold anothers.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Even wear a special suit and we good old seats shut.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
We bleed together these farms or not bitsid a hold
another's because.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
We're a special suit. Oh wow, wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Not a single person who hasn't got somebody in mind
when they listen to that song Missy Higgins in the
studio here on will and what he you can see
Missy perform that and a bunch of the songs from
the Sound of White. It was the twentieth anniversary take.
She's doing a show at Sidney my music bill and
just announced today actually would that she's gonna be doing
on core shows with Down on the Green and involves
(12:01):
a whole bunch of guests Dann Sultan, cap Milla hydeke
Go and see who do That and her brand new record,
which Missy I'm so excited to talk about right now.
The second act. Thank you for that before we get
into the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
That was so good.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh God, I don't know if I can do the
next next round of songs.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It's gonna tak That was tough. You just got We're down.
I should tell everyone'm listening right now. We're down the
other end.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So you've just got two fully grown men just looking
at each other crying.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
We both had moments listening to the second AAC today
and I had where I looked at Will on the
plane and I was like, oh, wow, you're nowhere. And
then I was relistening in the office before and like
I'm in an office and there's people kind of buzzing.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
It's a radio studio as well.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So the vibes are high and I just had eyes down,
Like the emotion in the new album is.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I mean, it is so raw and it is so honest.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
How does it feel to be having that out there now?
Speaker 10 (13:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I mean, I made a conscious decision with this album
to just let it all out. Like I went through
a separation a couple of years ago from the father
of my two kids, and so that's what this album
is about. It's not about the relationship or the breakup really,
but it's about trying to move on and trying to
kind of find a new identity and write a new
(13:26):
story for myself.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And it's the heartbreak of you know, the story.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
That I had written for myself in my mind that
not panning out how I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's a really.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Intense record, but it's been such an intense ride, emotional
ride over the past couple of years, and I wanted
to write from a place of exactly where I was,
rather than pretend that I had figured anything out or
that I had any answers or that I was like
feeling any stronger or wiser than I actually was. I
was like, I'm just going to write from the mess
(13:56):
that I'm in, because that's what music is to me too.
It's a way of getting myself out of a mess
and out of a tricky emotional place. You know. It's
like I'm tangling and not inside myself every time I
write a song about something. So it really was just
a huge, hugely kind of therapeutic exercise for me. And
(14:17):
now it's written and recorded, I'm like, wow, this is
quite full on.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This album, but I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Like it's I wrote all these songs late at night
with a whiskey on top of the piano, after my
kids have gone to bed, and I recorded them that
way myself, you know, in the same room at the
back of my house, and it's just it's really honest,
Like it's as honest as I've ever been. I think
from that, you've got to rebuild your sense of identity
(14:45):
and self and try to build a sense of confidence
not based on having ticked any boxes that our culture
has told you to tick. Who are you then, and
what reasons do you have to love yourself that don't
involve having done any of that stuff, Because now that's gone,
you need a new reason to feel like a worthy
(15:07):
human being. And that was very confronting, and I'm I'm
still definitely on the journey, but yeah, that song is
about that and having to kind of harness a bit
of self compassion really, which is, weirdly, I think, the
hardest thing to do.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I know you're about to perform The Complicated Truth, and
I mean in that song itself, you talk about the
fact that your life is different to the endings in
the books that you're reading your children as well.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, Complicated Truth is a song for my daughter, my
five year old daughter, who was asking all these questions
about me and her dad and why would split up,
and why we couldn't all live in a house together anymore,
and all these really really difficult questions to answer to
a five year old, you know, after a few sessions
of her just drilling me in the car from the
(16:07):
back of the car. So I went home that night,
I didn't have the kids that night, and I wrote.
I wrote this song for her in hope that one
day she can listen to it and understand things from
our perspective a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
All right, Well, let's hear it if we can.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All is a Complicated Truth from the brand new Missy
Higgins record. The second act Listen to miss You listen
to Will and with Missy Higgins, we're not.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
The trees are sway the wind, and you're not with
me to day you're with him, and that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Hope you're run and round in circles. Hope you're laughing
till you drop. Hope you feeling safe, O, Hope you
feel I loved.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The days along when you'll not.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Here, have been stain at the sky, when jin what
I used to do with on my time? You're a
you never so starlight bursted out of every scene, and
the house is so damned quiet when you leave. You've
(17:56):
been ask a lot of questions lately.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's trying to figure out why.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
The endings in your books don't match shells.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And it breaks my heart. Try to find some.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Words you'll understand, because Baby, nothing about.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
This was in the plan. All that I can tell
you is a complicated truth. Wise love, your dady is together.
We made.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
From the moment I first met him, A knew everything
with shame.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Ye Daddy woke my heart up in the kitch.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
In that day.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
You are a medalong on the road of ast be
a horse.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That I had never felt so seen and so adorned.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
We loved its Shut's fault departs.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We kissed eas Shutter's.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Wounds till one day we rolled Maignant too. And I
know your bookstorn and like that, I know it's hard
to take. A promise is a promise you say?
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And Lord did I contel is a calmplicated truth.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
All is love your dad. But now I love is
something you.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
M hm.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Now I'm walking batted your empty bedroom, turning off the light,
and I'm hoping that's talk to you in time, because
I haven't had the answers lately, having none word to say.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
When you ask me what low runs away?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
And all that I can give you for these calms
located truth, some sounds happen, nic.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It is the hardest thing to choose. But always love
your dad, christ Getzo, we made m hm.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
So good, so good? So how do you listening to WI?
By the way, how do you.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Do?
Speaker 7 (22:10):
How do you go there? Every like every time you
perform that song.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I've heard that song a couple of times today and
like every time it gets us how.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
How sad?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Sad?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Every time I play it live at AH, I have
to apologize.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
To the.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
There's no escape, there's no escaping and either like you
would have.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I both got little girls, so girls are just around
two years old, and so like I was thinking about
it from that perspective, and then it flipped halfway through
and I was thinking of from my mum and dad's perspective.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Like, everyone can relate to that. If you're alive, you
can relate to that song.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
It's the empty house, empty house.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Sadness and kids.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There's something about sadness and parents that's right, gets right
to the heart of things, doesn't it right up the gusts.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, because you feel such a responsibility to protect them
and the responsibility for their happiness.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And oh yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Well done, mate, Yeah, well done.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I can think of many people that have tried to
encapsulate the emotion that you just put down in the
last three or four minutes, but not many who have
done it as well as you.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
That's bloody awesome. That's a new gear from Missy Higgins.
It's called a Complicated Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's going to be on her second record called a
Second Act, the Second Act, I should say, which is
going to be.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Not my second record.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Than that, Sorry but sorry. There's a few songs that
are out on the second act right now. It is,
of course the twentieth anniversary of her first record, and
now I got that right because the Sound of White
was that twenty years ago. You know, and watch Missy.
Ash's going to be at the City my Music. Well,
I'll be there Friday the sixth.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Missy with Dan Sultan, Kate Miller Hike is going to
be flowing around as well for these shows.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The day on the Greennie were want to see her
live and what sounds like it's going to.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Be an incredible to her mate, thank you for coming in,
thank you for playing for us, thank you for making
us cry on behalf of Australia.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I think I'm saying that, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Thanks for having me guys.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Thank God bye Missy bye, thank you
Special treat for everyone because Missy Higgins is in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Miss you.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Geez, what a bill?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
What are your production You've got a lot going on, man,
I really do Jesus.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
A big year. I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
How does it feel to hear the stats read out
like that, Missy? Like twenty six ARIA nominations, nine wins
at the Arias, You're going to be inducted into the
Hall of Fame. How does that sit with you when
you hear that back?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It feels like maybe I should be dying or something.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
You know, it's the kind of things people read out
about you when you're on your deathbed. Look at all
she's achieved now she's about to leave us.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's a shame that people reserve that sort of stuff. Yeah, dying, right, Yeah,
not dying, yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Right, Hopefully I won't die for a while. I feel
like I've got a few more albums in me. But yeah,
I there's just a lot has happened this year that's
been really incredible, Like, I honestly can't quite believe it,
especially the Hall of Fame stuff, that's just, oh my god,
it's such an incredible honor.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm still that's wild.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, mate, I was having a look at some of
the other inductees, but obviously some of the other women,
because we had Tena Arena on this show a little
while ago, and we were saying to her she was
the first woman to win an Album of the Year,
like in like nineteen ninety nine or something ridiculous, it's crazy.
And then so I'm just looking back at some of
the other women who have been inducted, and obviously, you know,
(01:36):
naturally there's not a man and not a woman who's
involved until much later on.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
There's so many dudes. But the women that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're joining, Olivia Newton, John Kylie, Tina Arena, obviously you
Casey Chambers was the most recent one as well, Marsha
Heines like pretty amazing names.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I know, to be in the same sentences, I.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Know, Yeah, it's an incredible honor. I remember when Tina
Arena got into I was at that Arias and the
Veronicas and Jessica Malboy did a song with her, did
one of dons, and it was so epic. Everyone was
on their feet and pumping their fists in the air
and singing along and I just remember being yeah, I
(02:17):
was full of shivers, and just I was watching those guys,
you know, just the younger generation and the older generation
all kind of inspiring each other and working together and
very inspired watching that.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Citional to hear you talking about being inspired by seeing
people that were you know before you and seeing the
younger generation get around their music, because Missy, you're now
in that position where the younger generation is getting inspired
by your music.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, we're talking about Angie McMartin moore because I know
you popped up on stage with her a few times,
and that was my favorite record of the year, and
to hear her talk about how much she loved.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You made me feel very old. That was so red hot.
I can't believe I.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Get that's my favorite record too.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Don't get me started. Everyone the team's going, don't.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I've been going on about it as well. Actually, and
one of the songs on my new album.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Was inspired by that album.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh wow, but.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, she's amazing. I Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
It's funny because I never realized how much my first album,
the kind of impact that it made until literally maybe
the last year or two, people have started coming out
and talking about it being an influence to them.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And after you got inducted, they all jumped on.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think it's like, you know.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It's been around for almost twenty years now, and people
are maybe just getting old enough to have realized, oh
maybe you know, looking back, maybe at why they started
and then talking about it. But it's it's my favorite
thing is to hear that I've inspired someone to start songwriting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I was reading earlier that however, people have interpreted this
song for them. This song was the specialty was about
you and your sister at that time, and that's what
twenty years ago now that you guys had a fight
or some tension is Yeah, there was.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
A bit of tension over a boy that we both liked,
and that had never really happened before. Like, she's eight
years older than me, so she'd always I don't know,
she'd been kind of like a mother figure to me
in so many ways. And then all of a sudden,
I was a woman like i'd become, you know, eighteen
nineteen years old, and we found ourselves in the same
(04:23):
kind of playing field.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Oh it was good.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
It was really awkward, and we'd never we'd never fancied
the same person before, and I overstepped the line.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Let's just leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
She wasn't happy with me, and I was just I
just felt really horrible for kind of portraying her or
just breaking the sister code, and I wrote her this
song as kind of an apology letter.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I've also heard you say recently that when you were
writing music for the Sound of White, it was a
bit like you were writing in a secret die and
then putting that into songs. And at the time you
didn't think that many people were going to hear it,
so it was okay. But then obviously the Sound of
White was this huge, huge success.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Is it a bit scary for you? You know, because
I write.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
In a journal and there's some things that I write
down in my journal when I'm not thinking about anyone
else reading it, that I would actually be mortified for
people to hear, because it's very very private stuff. Is
it scary for you knowing how many people are going
to have access to exactly what you were thinking or
going through in a certain time.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, for some reason, it's not, and I'm not quite
sure why. I mean, there's this stuff in my diary
that I'd be absolutely humiliated if anyone read. But I
guess when I put it into song I do it
in a kind of poetic way, and I like, I
think about it for many, many weeks, and I work
(05:53):
on these songs and I craft them up to be,
you know, a piece of art, and they're trying to
convey something deeper than what I'm going through. Specifically, they're
trying to convey kind of the universal truth at the
heart of them. So it's not like it's literally a
page for my diary, but it is. It is very confessional.
It's just kind of thought out to be a little
(06:15):
bit more poetic and a bit more beautiful than.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just oh my god, Tony's such an asshole.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I'd listen to Tony's such an asshole news song on
the new album I believe, Missy.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, that's the next album.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, as we were just saying about this song, the
special too, I'm sure it has meant so many different
things to so many different people. The Sound of Why
Its celebrated its twentieth anniversary this year, Missie, the piano
is in front of you. If you would do us
the honors, we would be a very grateful audience.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Whenever you're ready.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I mean, it seems like a good opportunity. I have
a piano in front of it. Coincidence?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
What's this doing here?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
We said, a trap? We want to do it before.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
I've hardly been outside my room in days because I
don't feel that I deserve. The sun shines rays, the
darkness held until the whiskey wore away, and who is
(07:37):
Then I realized that the conscience never fades. When you're young,
you have this image.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Of your life.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
The UBI screwuss in one day, even make a wife,
and you may boundary easy you'd never dream to cross.
Then if you happen to awake complete little loss that
(08:13):
I will fight. Be sure that I will fight until
the special tu once sick, and we will only in
need each other. We'll breathe together, our hands will not
(08:35):
be insured to hold another's and.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
With a specialty. I remember someone old one.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Said to me, the lies will lock you up, with
truth the only key. Oh but I was comfortable and
I was warm inside my shell, and I couldn't see
this place.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Could suit become my heir? So is it better to
tell and.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Hurt or lie to save their face? I guess the
answer is don't do it in the first place. I
know I'm not deserve and I.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Your trust from you. I know, Oh, very bad chance
it change your mind.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
You know I will not let you down because we
were the specialty and will be again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And we will only need it. Shudder.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
We'll breathe together. Our hands will not be said a
hold another's and like a special suit and we could
alst see it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Shudder.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
We'll bleed together, these arms will not be soured a hold.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Another's because what a special two step outside my mind's
eyes for a minute and the look of me like
a doctor looking for disease. Smon, a good day's the bag.
Nothing cures the hurts you.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
Oh yeah, Bryon by yourself, just remembering, just remembering.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
If we know we were.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
And we were all indeedios shudder, wellbury together hands we'll
not bitsid no hold anothers.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Even wear a special suit and we good old seats shut.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
We bleed together these farms or not bitsid a hold
another's because.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
We're a special suit. Oh wow, wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Not a single person who hasn't got somebody in mind
when they listen to that song Missy Higgins in the
studio here on will and what he you can see
Missy perform that and a bunch of the songs from
the Sound of White. It was the twentieth anniversary take.
She's doing a show at Sidney my music bill and
just announced today actually would that she's gonna be doing
on core shows with Down on the Green and involves
(12:01):
a whole bunch of guests Dann Sultan, cap Milla hydeke
Go and see who do That and her brand new record,
which Missy I'm so excited to talk about right now.
The second act. Thank you for that before we get
into the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
That was so good.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh God, I don't know if I can do the
next next round of songs.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It's gonna tak That was tough. You just got We're down.
I should tell everyone'm listening right now. We're down the
other end.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So you've just got two fully grown men just looking
at each other crying.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
We both had moments listening to the second AAC today
and I had where I looked at Will on the
plane and I was like, oh, wow, you're nowhere. And
then I was relistening in the office before and like
I'm in an office and there's people kind of buzzing.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
It's a radio studio as well.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So the vibes are high and I just had eyes down,
Like the emotion in the new album is.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I mean, it is so raw and it is so honest.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
How does it feel to be having that out there now?
Speaker 10 (13:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I mean, I made a conscious decision with this album
to just let it all out. Like I went through
a separation a couple of years ago from the father
of my two kids, and so that's what this album
is about. It's not about the relationship or the breakup really,
but it's about trying to move on and trying to
kind of find a new identity and write a new
(13:26):
story for myself.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And it's the heartbreak of you know, the story.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
That I had written for myself in my mind that
not panning out how I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's a really.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Intense record, but it's been such an intense ride, emotional
ride over the past couple of years, and I wanted
to write from a place of exactly where I was,
rather than pretend that I had figured anything out or
that I had any answers or that I was like
feeling any stronger or wiser than I actually was. I
was like, I'm just going to write from the mess
(13:56):
that I'm in, because that's what music is to me too.
It's a way of getting myself out of a mess
and out of a tricky emotional place. You know. It's
like I'm tangling and not inside myself every time I
write a song about something. So it really was just
a huge, hugely kind of therapeutic exercise for me. And
(14:17):
now it's written and recorded, I'm like, wow, this is
quite full on.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This album, but I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Like it's I wrote all these songs late at night
with a whiskey on top of the piano, after my
kids have gone to bed, and I recorded them that
way myself, you know, in the same room at the
back of my house, and it's just it's really honest,
Like it's as honest as I've ever been. I think
from that, you've got to rebuild your sense of identity
(14:45):
and self and try to build a sense of confidence
not based on having ticked any boxes that our culture
has told you to tick. Who are you then, and
what reasons do you have to love yourself that don't
involve having done any of that stuff, Because now that's gone,
you need a new reason to feel like a worthy
(15:07):
human being. And that was very confronting, and I'm I'm
still definitely on the journey, but yeah, that song is
about that and having to kind of harness a bit
of self compassion really, which is, weirdly, I think, the
hardest thing to do.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I know you're about to perform The Complicated Truth, and
I mean in that song itself, you talk about the
fact that your life is different to the endings in
the books that you're reading your children as well.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, Complicated Truth is a song for my daughter, my
five year old daughter, who was asking all these questions
about me and her dad and why would split up,
and why we couldn't all live in a house together anymore,
and all these really really difficult questions to answer to
a five year old, you know, after a few sessions
of her just drilling me in the car from the
(16:07):
back of the car. So I went home that night,
I didn't have the kids that night, and I wrote.
I wrote this song for her in hope that one
day she can listen to it and understand things from
our perspective a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
All right, Well, let's hear it if we can.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All is a Complicated Truth from the brand new Missy
Higgins record. The second act Listen to miss You listen
to Will and with Missy Higgins, we're not.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
The trees are sway the wind, and you're not with
me to day you're with him, and that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Hope you're run and round in circles. Hope you're laughing
till you drop. Hope you feeling safe, O, Hope you
feel I loved.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The days along when you'll not.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Here, have been stain at the sky, when jin what
I used to do with on my time? You're a
you never so starlight bursted out of every scene, and
the house is so damned quiet when you leave. You've
(17:56):
been ask a lot of questions lately.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's trying to figure out why.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
The endings in your books don't match shells.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And it breaks my heart. Try to find some.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Words you'll understand, because Baby, nothing about.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
This was in the plan. All that I can tell
you is a complicated truth. Wise love, your dady is together.
We made.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
From the moment I first met him, A knew everything
with shame.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Ye Daddy woke my heart up in the kitch.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
In that day.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
You are a medalong on the road of ast be
a horse.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That I had never felt so seen and so adorned.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
We loved its Shut's fault departs.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We kissed eas Shutter's.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Wounds till one day we rolled Maignant too. And I
know your bookstorn and like that, I know it's hard
to take. A promise is a promise you say?
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And Lord did I contel is a calmplicated truth.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
All is love your dad. But now I love is
something you.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
M hm.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Now I'm walking batted your empty bedroom, turning off the light,
and I'm hoping that's talk to you in time, because
I haven't had the answers lately, having none word to say.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
When you ask me what low runs away?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
And all that I can give you for these calms
located truth, some sounds happen, nic.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It is the hardest thing to choose. But always love
your dad, christ Getzo, we made m hm.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
So good, so good? So how do you listening to WI?
By the way, how do you.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Do?
Speaker 7 (22:10):
How do you go there? Every like every time you
perform that song.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I've heard that song a couple of times today and
like every time it gets us how.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
How sad?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Sad?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Every time I play it live at AH, I have
to apologize.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
To the.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
There's no escape, there's no escaping and either like you
would have.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I both got little girls, so girls are just around
two years old, and so like I was thinking about
it from that perspective, and then it flipped halfway through
and I was thinking of from my mum and dad's perspective.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Like, everyone can relate to that. If you're alive, you
can relate to that song.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
It's the empty house, empty house.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Sadness and kids.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There's something about sadness and parents that's right, gets right
to the heart of things, doesn't it right up the gusts.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, because you feel such a responsibility to protect them
and the responsibility for their happiness.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And oh yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Well done, mate, Yeah, well done.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I can think of many people that have tried to
encapsulate the emotion that you just put down in the
last three or four minutes, but not many who have
done it as well as you.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
That's bloody awesome. That's a new gear from Missy Higgins.
It's called a Complicated Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's going to be on her second record called a
Second Act, the Second Act, I should say, which is
going to be.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Not my second record.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Than that, Sorry but sorry. There's a few songs that
are out on the second act right now. It is,
of course the twentieth anniversary of her first record, and
now I got that right because the Sound of White
was that twenty years ago. You know, and watch Missy.
Ash's going to be at the City my Music. Well,
I'll be there Friday the sixth.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Missy with Dan Sultan, Kate Miller Hike is going to
be flowing around as well for these shows.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The day on the Greennie were want to see her
live and what sounds like it's going to.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Be an incredible to her mate, thank you for coming in,
thank you for playing for us, thank you for making
us cry on behalf of Australia.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I think I'm saying that, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Thanks for having me guys.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Thank God bye Missy bye, thank you
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