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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Will and Woody Podcast. Welcome to the pod. It's
great to have you here. Best year of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You're about to hear plenty behind the scenes action. We're
just saying, how good is Stranger Things?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We were we were saying that, you were.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Saying that Tom wants us to say for the movie Pod,
which we will be putting out one day.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But that doesn't exist. Yeah, it is stranger Things. We
just like to squeeze in movie TV. So good. You
threw it. You threw at me though you were like,
got it like best TV show ever? You went up
at the end, No I didn't. I said, is it
your favorite show? Okay, you just asked that question of.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Me, and I think there's a difference between your favorite
show and the best show ever. By the way, sure,
I reckon because I would say there are lots of
movies that I would You know, there are movies in
the conversation the best movie that are not in.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
The conversation for favorite movie. Sure, because favorite indicates a
subjective nature. So do you want my favorite TV showever
or the best TV showever? From me? Both? I wonder
if mind lines up. I think my my for the
movie podcast, I think we'll just let.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Me arguably thank you, though, Tom, I appreciate it Dark Yes,
I think his best TV show ever.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Right, Okay, it's a bit tired. It falls away scene
back to the future, so it's so much better than
back to the we can, we will go to we
will we will throw down if we keep going here.
But Dark is The Germans do good things. The Germans,
the Germans. It was the Germans. It's the best. It's
the best thing the Germans have put on the screen.
(01:41):
I'm not super across the other things that the Germans
have made in their film industry, but that was good
favorite TV showever.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Poo is worried about one other things the Germans have
put on the screen. What the Germans put on the screen?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What's popped into your head there, Pooy? Only the very
famous movie Doust Boot? Dost boot? Is that about a boot?
I actually don't know. I've never watched it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Schindler's List, But I don't think the Germans put them
on the screen.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
America, the Americans. Liam Neeson put him on the map.
How old was put him on the map? No, I
think it did. No, I think he was doing other
things before that. I reckon that was Nison's first click
You Reckon.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Liam Neeson's debut movie was Shindler's List.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, not for first starring role. I'd say, okay, Shindle's
list is a very old film. Shindler's List. Let's have
a look at me. What did Neson do pre Schindler's List?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Liam Neeson's famously You've Gone and You're gone. He made
his He's made his debut, and I knew you'd be gone.
He made his debut in nineteen seventy eight. Schindler's list
is nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh bloody. So he makes a lot of movies before
he gets anywhere in the issue. How many movies has
he made? Liam Neeson he Reckon. He rips out two
or three action movies a year.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, he had the really horrific incident with his with
his wife, the skiing accident, and I think the only
way that he could get through that was by working.
I think he said that before that pretty much accepted
every script that was on the back burner for him,
and he was like, I can't think about this, so
I'm playing it. She hit her head and she.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
She yeah, she was. She was in a combra and
I think since passed away. But he just said.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
All I can only the only thing I didn't do
to get through that is just work.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It makes sense because he got he turns that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Movie he does it says that he's been in over
a hundred films.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So you were so so you reckon the best TV
show ever made the Germans.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Dar Yes, any.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Other German film. I suppose dust Booters up there, boo pants.
I don't know what you were so worried about.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Even kind of freaked out when I was talking about
the German film industry. Sure, why that's so controversially?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, me, neither dust boot All quiet on the Western
front was the German movie?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Didn't say it? Carry on them? Run, Lola, Run.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's a great movie, a very very good movie.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It's a high energy, innovative thriller that explores the concept
of fate through a series of what if scenario That's.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
A sick That is a sick, sick film. I think
I'm thinking of Run, Fat Boy Run stars Simon Pegg.
It was also a great movie. Was Downfall a German movie? Downfall?
That was a very good movie.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, it's funny see Google not as smart as
chat GVT is telling me that the book Thief is
a German movie, and that's not as written by in
Australian Marcus Zuzak book Thief Shindler's List.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're not going to call the German movie Google's taken
as movies based in Germany.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, the best TV show Dark and the Germans did
put that together. Yes, favorite TV show. And you've led
yourself here, I know, and I put yourself in this.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Definitely should have thought about it before I brought it up. Confidently.
I had one on the tip of my tongue. You know,
it should be the TV show that just pops into
my head? What's that like?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Japanese porn? You like watching? When you cooked? Blue Samurai?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh, Blue Eyed Samurai? Extraordinary, extraordinary. I had had a
couple of drinks before I did watch that, and it
was if you do, if you are over over the
age of eighteen and you feel like watching like quite
an extraordinary story it's about. So apparently this is a
true story in Japan. Japan were very brutal with their
like who they allowed in and like they were very
(05:38):
pure right long long time ago. So the idea of
having blue eyes and living in Japan was seen as
like a oh you're like a you're not pure right
kind of thing. Anyway, So is this getting to your
favorite TV shirt? Yes, Okay, the show is about an
epic samurai who was always trying to conceal her eyes.
She's got blue eyes. Yeah, people kind of be like, oh,
(06:01):
you're a mutant, but wow, got samurai's skill. Kind of think.
So she's sort of like shunned by society and she
kind of fights her way back there. But anyway, the
main thing that I didn't to talk about is, oh,
I had had a couple of drinks before watching this,
and I was watching a scene and I was like,
I swear to got to just throw an animated penis,
but that I must have just imagined it. Anyway, as
(06:22):
I kept watching it, prolific nudity in animation form, which
which I'd never experienced that before. I've never experienced that before,
I'd say I saw as you know in ads.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
A Japanese animation, mate, Like, come on, if you're not
seeing a dick.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
There was a scene in like probably not probably Japanese,
was a scene in a brothel.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There was a guy with no hands. Yeah, is that right?
That's obviously when it goes to the brothel, right, it's
kind of hands. Why did he go to the brothel
because he can't I can't do it himself. Get so
this is early, get creative. What do you want to do?
Use his feet? Well, and I'll leave that there. He's
getting to your favorite TV show? Oh? Sorry, No, you
(07:08):
took me to Blue Eyed Samura.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You took yourself to Blue Samara. And then I asked
you halfway through as.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You started talking about it, is it getting to your
favorite TV show? And you said yes. I thought you said,
is it getting to Blue Eyed Samurai? Sorry? Sorry, that's okay,
that's okay, So my favorite TV show there? Yeah, yeah,
there's just so many TV I think Severances as like
as as a pure mind bending stuff, don't you well,
it's just as like a from the start where you
(07:36):
don't you have no idea? What's have you watched Severance?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, I've actually to be fair of when you watched
the first two epps. Okay, it's not too intense for
sim so you can probably speak.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The private time to watch the books. Nice, we'll find
that private time man, because season two is coming out
sand which is pretty exciting, but it's so beautifully gave
you this little this drip fed you little bits of
information better than any TV series I've ever had before,
you know what I mean. And then you like, oh
my god, it's all coming together, and then I feel
like the back half is just just repetitive. Oh my god,
(08:08):
Oh my god, I've repetitive. Oh my god. You know
it's a good TV show when you when you're oh
my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they finished episode
or you know that it's a good TV show when
you know you've got your strict nine point thirty PM
bed time.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, when you're on a good line to go, I've
got to watch another epic.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But chat that Him and I always have a feeling.
Do we watch the first ten minutes of the next
app Yeah, we do that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We do that every time because I my my point
of my take on episode, they obviously want to finish
the episode on a climax or on a cliffhanger. Sure, right,
that's that's them to get them watching the next one.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Presumed Innocent did it very well as well.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yes, Presumingism did very well, But my take on it
is that you what to avoid, step outside of the
step outside of the algorithm.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
My take on it is don't let don't don't finish
on the cliffhanger, finish on the mellow out.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
As in halfway through an ap Yeah, so we'll finish
if you have the control made. You know, I've got
the control.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I'll finished fifteen, I'll finish ten or fifteen minutes
into the stop. Yeah, because I'll go like, Okay, I
found out what I needed to know, and we'll start
there because it's anymore getting dictated to as to when
you should finish the episode, which is the end of
the episode. But really you can finish that.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You can. You can pause the narrative whenever you want.
I know I can. I know I can do that. Yeah, yeah,
so do it, but like do it, man, take control
of your TV watching.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That part of the excitement though, Like the dopamine here
at the end of the episode and morning to watch,
if I was addicted.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
To dopeman, yeah for sure, I'd feel that way as well, Tom,
But I'm free. No me is the best, No, no,
not at all, boys now, yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But it also ruins your your ability to enjoy the
things in the moment. But when you've got the dopamine.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, I mean you're blind to everything else now because
it's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Nah nah, because you lost. Now let's get into the podcast.
I pity you. You uh, you are extraordinary. A lot
of things that dopemine can stop episodes halfway through. It
must be wild being are that. I appreciate that. I
can't imagine living like that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I've got a twigs bar just sitting here, brother, just
sitting here, might not have it that this is so.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Outrageous to me. I've got through all my snacks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Will is actually going to talk about why this podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
About a little man that oh no ship? Yeah, great point,
Tom good hook. What does your little man say? Donate
the twigs?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, well it used to used to say
don't eat. What does he say now?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think I kind of just enjoyed the madness now.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I don't like. I don't deal very well with too
much routine.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh yeah, I quite enjoy the stopping things halfway through.
I like, I like being in a like if I
do too much routine, I get very weird atually. Funnily enough,
we're gonna play a bit of Stephen Fry a little
bit later on or I'm gonna do that right now, Yeah,
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
If you want.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I saw him talk last night, and you guys would
have heard a lot of Stephen from this podcast. So
I'm going to keep it pretty pretty shallow. I'm going
to set up my own Stephen podcast, which is meeting
you about Stephen. But he actually finished his The last
thing he said in his talk that he saw I
saw him last night two nights ago. The last thing
he said was that he was talking about his manic
depression because he airs bipolar, and you know, like every
(11:32):
now and then he'll go like, you know, he'll just
have a real episode where you know, fully flip out.
He'll he'll know, remove all of his contacts, he want
to speak to you over ages, He'll fall off a cliff.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Does he have a plann does he go somewhere? I
don't think it's controllable.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And if it's mania, he will have like you come
on the other side of his mania and he might
have sold his house, you know, like rinst all his
credit cards and you know, said something awful to his
parents and like just just lost it. And then he
comes out the other side of it and goes, oh
my god, and then just goes into the shocking depression
and he'll wake up and he's in Fiji anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So that's basically the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And so he kind of comes in and out of
popular culture where it's like, oh, you know, he's the
host of QI and then where the hell Stephen five?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
For three years. That's just how he is.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, So what he said was I thought was quite
interesting because he said what happens is he comes back
from one of these things and every cab that he
gets into in London, the cab driver always says.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
To him, you're right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's like yeah, yeah, very well, and he's like, you
went off the way off the rails for a while there,
didn't you Like, you went off the rails And he
was like he kept hearing this, and he said that
he actually got really sick of hearing it, to the
point where he realized, quite blissfully, he was like, who
the fuck would want to be on the rails?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like the rails are a prison.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
He was like, if at any stage I am on
the rails, I will hate my life.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, like I will hate it. I don't want to
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
He's like for all the people that are you know, allowed,
you know, have the I think that the great privilege
of waking up one day and meaning like I want
to be a teacher, I want to be a doctor,
I want to be a scientist. Whatever those people are.
I've always envied those people like that is there, but
that's also their burden.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's who they will be. They are on the rails.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
The gift of not knowing what you want to be
and just being like, I don't know what I want
to do, which.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Has always been me.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That is the fact that you have the choice, but
you are off the rails. Sure you don't have security.
So it's funny how that works.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You're either kind of like, yeah, cool, this is what
I want to do with my life, and you know
that you're you know, you're a lab rat. You're in
you know, classic rails person.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Just put on the coat.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Every day, they get the Petri dishes out, and they'll do.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That for thirty years and they'll be so happy.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They will be so happy. I've always envied those people.
Another couple of classic careers mechanics. For some reason, everyone's
doing a mechanics they wake up one day they're like,
oh my god, I love cars.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I want to pick them apart. I want to be
in them all day, every day. That's probably another one.
The booth people. You know, when you go through like
a gate or something and they're booth attendant. I don't
think they've always wanted to be booth attendants. Think about it.
Imagine if they had do you know what I mean?
What this is all I wanted to do interaction with something.
(14:27):
You're giving me you two dollars to open the gate?
What they've always wanted to do. But I don't think
that many booth attendants have all like I don't think
they have one two he said how I said, how
I am mane live in the dream? Not one word
of sarcasm. One. I was like, that's awesome, man. All right,
well yeah, I think I think I've always envied those people.
But it was nice to hear. Does that mean that
(14:49):
you're off the rails? I'm always off the rails.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Though I'm not like, not like in a bad way,
just like I think I spend a lot of my
time trying to get on the rails, and I think
I I think I just need to realize that I'm
just not a very happy person on the rails.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You guys know what I'm like, and I'm on the rails.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know, like when I try and do those like
month long you know, like health kicks ackad.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You never last a month. I suck. I usually last
one or two.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I suck.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I get really aggravated. I start annoying people. I just
I do not deal very well with it. I do
always worry when you go like really clean weekend, really
whole weekends. Man, I'm like, ah, that's going to be
a while. Can you be an annoying week Yeah? You
need to get off the run. You actually think about
the perfect example of this, I think is like elite
athletes that have like been like on the rails more
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than anyone for like twelve years straight, like that most
heavily on the rails. People that that we're talking diet,
we're talking routine, we're talking everything right, and then it ends,
Yeah and they go off the and see, you see
that transition is so deal very well with it?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You probably you can probably link in child stars as well,
with people who are like very famous from a young age.
They've got someone telling them you need to be here
at this time, and there is physically someone who will
take you to the next thing, the next thing, and
the next thing. That is rails.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's rails for days. That's rails four days. And then
you remove those rails.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
And say what, what actually is life?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Because is the routine becomes who they are. But I
like having a much more holistic broad approach.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Anything can happen at anytime. It's fun and finally enough,
I'm opposite can surprise people, plead opposite. So if I
if I'm not on the rails, everything is messed up. Yeah,
like like nothing, I can't even get through a day.
It's just and there can be no weird side described.
(16:37):
But like, I need to be so structured in order
to enjoy the rest of my day. You do and
and like and then and then yeah, and then this
is like this sounds like it's a like it doesn't
make sense, So it sounds I'm saying the opposite thing.
But I need to be so on the rails to
get off the rails. Yes, yes, if I'm off, then
I'm lost already and I'm too lost.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah that's very true. Yes, I think it's also your relation.
I think it's also your relationship with it though, Like
I think that I enjoy being off the rails because
on the rails for.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Me means I'm working. Yeah, sure, sure, sure sure.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And there is certainly there's certainly a point where, you know,
I get off the rails to a point where I'm like,
I'm off the rails too much, and there's a voice
that's like, hey, get back.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
On the rails.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But my poison is definitely that I'm I go too
hard on I'm on the rails. Yeah, when I get
on the rails, I'm like, Okay, cool, we're locked in here.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Let's burn And I do. I burn out.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I really do that, you know, if you gonna stick
with the rails train analogy, I genuinely burn through all
my feel I need to get off the rails consistently
to be able to get back on. I think we've
done a lot of rail chat. Hey, so we lose
people directly. For I, I can't stop talking about him.
I'm talking about something else genius that he said the
(17:56):
other day on the show, which I think is kind
of it's a nice way of getting into it really
because he is talking about being on the rails and
being too hard on the rails, and how I've thought
for a long time that was a very bad thing
for me.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
Francis speak. Francis said to me, he said, oh, you
like me. He said, you've got a little man, haven't you.
I said, well, no, I'm single. He said no, I
don't mean that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He said, I mean.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
He said, in your head. You've got a little man
in your head. And maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, I'll
have been on this vicious bender, drinking and drinking as
I'd love to do, as you know, and then the
little man will say no, Francis studio, and I have
to obey him. He just goes on and on at me.
He says, studio studio now. And that's why I'm alive.
He said, you keep your don't you drown your little man.
(18:38):
Keep your little man alive.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It was really interesting advice, because I don't know if
anyone else listening out there has got a little man.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I've got a little man, very much, so I have
a little man. Allowed your little man very loud. He's
not a little he's actually quite a he's quite a
big man.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And it's quite a It can be for anyone who
is if you're a workaholic, or if you're a really
harsh judge of yourself like I am, that little man
becomes your worst.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Nightmare because he's quite nasty, to be nasty, super nasty, lazy. Yeah,
and in fact you don't got it your job well exactly,
just a little man, not me shit hat today.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But it does get to the point where you feel
as if you're not like the approval of the little
man is the only thing that matters, and to the
point where you can forget everything else in your life
at the cost of getting the approval from the little man.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Has the little man ever approved of something you've done?
Because the little man ever saying you did well, that's right,
But it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He's the best feeling in the whole world when that
little man said you've done a good job. And that's
because and I think for anyone who's got a little
man or a little voice in their head that tells
them to work harder or do better.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That that's because it's not your voice.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's the voice of the parent that you wanted to
approval from, or it's the voice of the teacher that
you wanted to approval from.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's what the little man is. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And so I think it's really easy to demonize that voice,
to go like, I hate the little man in my head.
It's constantly telling me I'm not good enough, I'm not
doing well enough. And I think what Steven said, and
I think this is really important for anyone that's really
hard on themselves and who beats themselves up with this
(20:43):
little voice in their head. I think what Stephen said
is the right approach, And it's actually all about how
you frame your relationship with that thing. It's not that thing,
because that thing is going to be there your whole life.
If you're a hard on yourself person, if you're a
workolic person, you're always going to have that. If you're
a perfectionist, always going to have that voice. But and
you can't change that. It will always be there. I
(21:04):
mean that it'll be your whole life.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And if you tell it to shut up and don't
listen to it.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But you can change your relationship with it. And I
don't know if anyone listening to what Stephen just said
if they found that as relieving as I did. But
for him to say, I'm so glad I've got a
little man in my head that changed something for me
that that really I felt the ground shift there, because
(21:31):
I've never said to myself, I'm glad I've got a
little man. Yeah, I've always looked on it as i've
got to I've got to satisfy the voice in my
head in order to be happy. Yea, as opposed to
I'm glad that I have that outlook on life that
i'm I'm glad that i'm I'm a worker.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And have you found that little man has got a
bit nicer?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yes? You were like, hey, thanks, thanks, make yourself comfortable,
because I think the exactly because I think. The deeper realization,
and this is going to be really hard for anyone
that really struggles with how they think about themselves, is
that nothing in your head is actually there to hurt you.
Every single part of your psyche is trying.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
To protect you.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It doesn't make sense that you'd have something in your
head that was trying to sabotage you. Everything in your
brain is part of your brain, right, So everything in
your head at some stage is trying to go to you.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Hey, I'm just trying to help out. I'm just trying
to help out the part. I'm to help out that
told me to once piss on an electric fence. I
reckon they were trying to.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
That.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I was going to go out and the laugh here,
But here's here. I mean, I'm happy to I know
what you're trying to do to me. Who are you trying?
Who are you going to piss on the electric fence.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
In front of a group of people? Wanted to make
them laugh? There you go, damn it. I've been thinking
about that chat. Is that right? Has that been? Was
that we stewing on it? Lastly? Stewing? Take percolate, brewing, steeping, No,
(23:12):
I'll take percolate, percolate.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
So a few options there, but you would have liked
that your words, you did right in different ways diffusing, diffusing, percolarinating, aggressive,
It gets me just stewe territory.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Riining, brining, brining.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Like you Brian pickle?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Is that right? Mate? Well, you do whatever you want
to do in your own time.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Mate, I imagine would involve a bit of pickle brining.
You very very weird man, all right? Would so carry on?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Within my percolation this idea that you listen to the
to the little man that I listened to it. Just
just the discussion that we had was around like, it's
probably a good thing to listen to that voice. Ah,
I don't think that it was. No, I don't think.
(24:10):
I don't think it's that clear circulated for me.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I think the take home is that it's.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Very easy to hate the little man, and I think
that leads to a bad relation with the little a
bad relationship with little because you resent it because it's
the it's that you should be doing voice, that's that's
the little man, right, And I think what's really healthy
when I heard Stephen talk about it is I was like, Oh,
that's really that's clever, because I think you create a
(24:39):
bad relationship with anything in your life by your attitude
towards it. Right, So if your attitude towards the little
man is oh my god, piss off, of course it's
going to become a demon for you. But as soon
as he said, oh, it's a cool thing to have.
That's why I said afterwards, it's worth reminding yourself that
everything that is in your head is there trying to
protect you, because when you do have something that's annoying you,
(25:03):
it's nice to be reminded of like this is there
for a reason. This is trying to help me out,
and don't hate on it, because the more you hate
on it, the worse it's going to get for you.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So that, yeah, absolutely, it does make sense different, But
sometimes the little man is saying some very unconstructive things
that like, for example of if I fully listened to
my little man, it's like, don't try and do that.
You're not good enough and you will fail at that. Yes,
how could you possibly think that you can go and
do that? And it's funny, it was just like getting
(25:34):
that line of like okay, okay, I'm gonna listen to
you a little man, because you're trying to look after me.
But also if I listened to you too much, I
will not leave the hand. No I know.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So I think that you again, you've extrapolated it a
little bit too fast.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So happens percolate? Yeah yeah, yeah, well you might.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Have brood here, you might have even Brian's very good
turned into it. It's funny how how particular the language
gets with this sort of stuff. But the first thing
you said then was I'm going to listen to you
little man. I think that's different because I think that
there's there's a where like if you the little man
(26:09):
becomes an issue when you're blindly listening sure, because that
then takes him from sitting on your shoulder to in
the control tower because you don't even realize that you're
listening to it right right, You're following versus.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Here, I hear what you're saying, and I and I
and I know that you're trying to protect me.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And then that changes your relationship with the voice because
then you go from blindly listening to it to I
can accept you that you're there, and I appreciate what
you're trying to say for me, but I don't need
to listen.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
To you right right.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So it's again it's the attitude to the voice, which
I thought was really nice with what he was saying,
because he was like, thanks, little man, I hear what
you're saying, and that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I'm going to leave this bender right now because in
that situation, that voice is a good thing for him
to right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Another time, when a little man is going you're no
good at this, you go, hey, thanks, little guy, I
know what you're trying to do there, because I failed
at that a while ago. And that was embarrassing for me,
and I do struggle with my fear of failure. But
I don't need to listen to that right now.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's different generally speaking. This little man to shut up, then.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I think, So this is the fascinating thing for me.
If you turn around to the little.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man and go, oh my god, my god, I can
do this. I can do it, I can do it,
I can do it, I'd never be that confrontational.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
By the way, Fine, the little man's going to get
bigger and bigger. Yeah, yeah, if you cower, the little
man's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. If
you can find a place where you go shake his hand,
thanks so much, dude. And it's the hardest thing in
the world because basically what I'm saying is you need
to learn a way to like the parts of yourself
that you dislike the most. That is, your relationship with
(27:50):
the little man is ultimately how it because the little
man is the part of yourself that you hate the most.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Absolutely it is. So I'm find this is really funny.
You're doing this whole chat with me with Ray band
some classes, I'm starting to feel like I'm talking to
a guru and like, I'm not talking to will and
I'm sorry. You're in a child.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
In a child calls it, you're in a child, and
you just need to nurture that child. So sometimes the
child's being completely erratic and irrational, but you need to
calm the child.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Away. If it was my daughter doing that, I wouldn't
just go like, shut up, you idiot and not talk
to yea. It might be the child. I think.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think that's an important wing to make. Is it
like I'm talking about isn't it exactly? But I'm talking
about the thing that you least like about yourself that
that might not be you're in a child that, But
you're in a child for instance. You know that you
have all these parts of yourself that make up who
you are, and at different times, these voices are going
to try and speak to you in different ways. And
I think that it's just about listening to each of
(28:53):
those voices and giving them space, because I think that
you run into trouble when you try and push them away.
That's when that's when attention arises. That's when you get
real suffering. Is when you go, I'm going to bury
that part of me, because that part of you really
just is like any other part of you, like it
deserves to be listened to it because it's trying to
help you out totally.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Even when they're in a bad mood, sometimes they're in
a really bad moods they're in a good mood. But
sometimes even when they're in a really good mood, you're
like you, you are just being ridiculous today. Yeah, silly, silly. Yeah.
And I think I actually said this to you on
the on the on the way to your wedding, Like,
I think that the different parts of yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Ah, the reason that you develop these parts that get
buried is because when you were a little kid that
the thing that you were trying to connect with most
was your parents, right, Like, because you had to fit in.
That's your number one need as a child. I need
to I need to connect because if I fit in,
I'm part of the pack and then I can't get hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So, if you're if your parents tell you or don't
necessarily tell you, but act in a way that they
don't appreciate who you are as your authentic self, there's
gonna there be other parts of you that come forward
that they do. Like, so you're going to get used
to those parts of you being the parts of you
that you're like under show these off the most because
this is when I get the love, and then you
reject these other parts of you that make up your
(30:12):
authentic self.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It was very deep chat on the way to the
word it was. It was definitely not like a pregame.
So it's often not much.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's not often until like much later in your life
where you actually can have the time and space where
you have been loved enough to hear one of these
voices that you shoved down when you were four years old,
that is trying to like you're screaming for attention, and
they can often they can often say things which are
like quite confronting and not safe and feel not safe,
(30:43):
and so it's quite hard to have a normal or
a loving relationship with those voices because you're like, shit, dude,
where have you been for thirty years?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I can't just love you straight away? I don't know
what where did that come from? To hang out with
them tonight.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
This year?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Anyway? Sorry, this is what you were talking about with
No A Breather Space, I mean, same album. This is
a banger almost is she talking about the little man.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
No, she's not.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Just take it, just take it well, just take it
all right. We're gonna sorry that that really did get deep.
I hope it's got something out of that though.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think it's important, definitely conversation to have. Definitely let's
go to the ads. Yeah, buddy, lighting up with the ads.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Guys, welcome back, all right, Now we've got as deep
(31:54):
as we can get. Yeah, we have, and I'm sorry
to take you there again, but this is pretty deeper
we go.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
We're going back.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
To you.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I love I love the deepness as well. And I
think there's really got to the core of one member
of our team. I'm not going to say which one,
but there's no better moment on this radio show than
when you really know you've got one of the members
of the team. They had no idea this was coming,
and when it arrived it was pure bliss for everybody
apart from them. Enjoy quick question. Yeah, and I hope
(32:27):
you feel comfortable answering this, honestly, do you have a
sex playlist songs? I know what you're asking. Do you
have one? I'm just interested. I have I have certain
records that I would play to enhance the mood. Yeah, okay,
So but you don't have like a playlist on like
(32:48):
Spotify or iHeart.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'd rather play a record your beard room. Yes, I'd
rather play a record.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well if you did, so you play records your classic
like that. Some people make playlists for the beer, and
usually when they make it on iHeart or Spotify or whatever,
they keep these private, you know, when it is specifically
a bedroom or sex playlist. Unfortunately, now I'm not allowed
to say this person's name, but a very well known politician,
(33:14):
unfortunately on their Spotify account had their playlist hello and
someone found it. The playlist was called d You Down,
which I think is from a Kevin Gates song. And
(33:35):
but you know that it's his sex playlist though, well
because it was titled d You Down. What does that mean? Well,
urban dictionary, if you look up Urban Dictionary, to d
you down is to give a girl the best d
of her life. So that's the name. That's the name
is the politician. I'm not I can't say that it's ready.
It's ready, isn't it It's not.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's ready. It's not ready.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
We all know ready to be dynamite in the zec ruddy. Yeah,
man speak to me and Chinese ready give it to
me and che.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think it'd be very particular about wanting what he wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh yeah, and it obviously used far too many words
to describe that, but very diplomatic, I imagine, incredibly diplomatic.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Okay, well it's not it's not Ruddy. It's not very good.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You've heard of Kevin o San Kevin sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's that's what his playlist is called sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's funny. But yes, it's not. Okay, it's not it's
not Kevin rud Again, I'm not going to say who
the politician. But they had all sorts of pretty wild songs.
I didn't know this was a sexy song. I guess
this is this is Nile Horn can tell that I
want you. Yeah, So that's on there. It's a sexy
(35:00):
so yeah, I guess like sweat dripping down. Yeah, it's Abbot,
isn't it. It was not stop guessing guessing that they'll
get liturgy. Abbit the Rabbit has to rabbit. It was no, not,
it's not Abbot the Rabbit. So that one's on there.
(35:21):
Do we have any other audio that we don't Some
of the any other audio of the songs that are
on there, because they're all pretty crass. There's a song
apparently by Chris Brown called Wet the Bed, which features
the opening lines again, I can't play this because it's
too rude, but it's right here, the sound of your
body drip drip drip as I kiss both sets of lip,
(35:42):
lip lips. So that's These are the kinds of science politics,
and it's public. Everyone knows about it. Now. Well, I
just thought this is so embarrassing for this politician.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
And I was like, I wonder if anyone on our
team would potentially have like a public playlist, And quite amazingly,
a massive music fan in our team, Captain poo pants
no I went on his Spotify, has got a Spotify
playlist called Captain Pooh no Pants, and well he is
(36:15):
just a smattering of some.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Of the songs that Captains has on his sex but with.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It being around the bushes.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
Gets a little bo.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Go on, mate, use your microphone. I'm sexy and I
(37:24):
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
So we get one of the produces in there talk
about the favorite break has that.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
The week much better? Oh hello, hello? Oh yeah, outstanding excellent.
I'll just crack in you t about you're welcome, DROs Well.
I was that banana that you're eating? Grape okay to
too ripe? No, just a bit of blackness of the middle. Oh, No,
(37:56):
one likes a bruise banana.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
My favorite part of a nice segue was when Wood
he appointed you will the punky. No, hang on a
second here, l J. I don't appoint him. He has
always said for years he is the pun king. Now
that I was, I was just acknowledging the past, and
(38:18):
then we just need to let it go. You've always
said that you're the pun master. You always say that, mate.
You don't sit on a bruce banana.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
There's just no way that I have ever called myself
a puny.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
The way you brought back in the bruce banana there
and used it as a falling object, and it wasn't
quite a pun But this is what I'm talking about.
I've never called myself. I haven't.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Maybe hence why I just put on the spot and
we're live, like we're live, So what am I going
to do? I've got no you've got it's actually the
laziest piece of radio in the world.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You've got nothing else. Around it. You've got nothing else
around I think we've done far lasier. Mate. We do
a game every week where we open cans. If you're
going to say you're going to have.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Follow up, I'm in trouble because I just have to
sit there and just come up with something because it's live.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's the way. That sounds stressful. But if I don't
do it, then the bit dies in the ass. You
could say that about every bit, though one of them
I'm not talking.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I'm not going to contribute.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I think the bit's very good and did good because
I dance a monkey right one day? Horse is tired?
Ready for it? Your monkey on the horse?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Are you like, well, get ready monkey?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Or the lasiest part of the bit. It's about that
what he doesn't find his own store? So I've got
that's true, all right? Oh you live and find the
stories stories. It really is, just why are you sending
you give me a new story? I just thought we
could give him a crack because it's the favorite bit
of the week. So I'm not should we hear the bit,
(39:57):
I'm not doing it historically. I don't like hackers. Get
at them a gear, get out of my stuff. I
don't like them. Hacked, I think multiple times. But I'm
at the level where I don't really even realize anymore
when I'm getting hacked. Anyway, let's talk about my I
think I get hacked all the time. Man, Anyway, I
(40:19):
don't want to get into it. Oh you get it depressed,
to get the calls, you get the calls, you get
the text. A lot of my money have gone to hackers.
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty confident of that. Anyway, So
don't like them. But there are some hackers that I
do have some respect for because they did this breach
on a French company, Schneider Electric, where they got a
whole bunch of their data effectively, and they said, listen,
(40:41):
if you want the data back, you're gonna have to
give us one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars worth
of bag adds. And they're serious. It did' sit. They're like,
we're not joking. One hundred and twenty five k ionus
bagades and then we'll give you the data back. Given
(41:03):
no reason. They're just like, give us one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars worth of bag adds now will
yeap yep for as long as I have known you. No,
I don't want to play. You have been the pun man.
I haven't. I actually haven't, and I've never said that's
a skill. But I think this is. This is stitch
(41:25):
up the pun Man. No, yees, you are. You're the
pun Man. You're so good at puns. I don't know
how you do it. I don't know how you see it.
You see it before anyone sees it. You're in pun land.
Boom boom. I don't want to do this. From the
details of this story, there is an amazing pun I'm
going to give you thirty seconds to figure out the
(41:50):
pun pun Man could be a weekly bit. So all
you need to know is that some hackers have demanded
one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars worth of bad gets.
That's ransom for forty gigs of data stolen. Your time
to find the pun starts. Now, come on, pun Man,
(42:15):
talk us through it.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, okay, the only thing I can think of right
now is hacket like baget.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Oh, that's pretty bad. That's that's weak.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Uh, that's weak, bun Man hackets on a roll because
it's like something to do with the.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Bakery there warmer, Uh.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Give me.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
One doesn't thrive under pressure. But man, don't know what
it is. It's like Roger Feder having a fresh area.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Stop pitying me. It's the fall of the.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Is.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's owing to do with the bag Yeah, well yeah,
it's all to do with it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's how pun's work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pun is
yeah yeah, yeah. One hundred and twenty five k worth
of bagetts. That's a lot of dough. Oh that's the
level that I'm sorry. I feel like age.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
It is better, not bad, not bad, Eh.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I carry it and you let yourself down a little bit.
Now you didn't quite get I don't imagine I'll stop.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Doing it, you know subject there will be a moment
we're going strong, you get too competitive, No I don't.
I don't, and then there'll be great feedback and I'll
be out, have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Do you want to give him another one?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
You want to do it?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I don't think you know what. I don't want to
monkey dance now. I'd love to make the he's going
to when he's in pod, When he's in podcast form, exactly,
he doesn't feel. But when we're live, something that's fair enough.
I think I need to bring back poop.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I need to bring back a return serve for another
dance monkey segment.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I think we've got one making me dance. I reckon,
I'm happily, I will happily help you come with. I
think we've got we've got one. We've got one in
the chamber. What's that making me dance? I need to
return I just I can't do it. I like to dance.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
I know you.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
No, no, I don't you like dancing. I like to dance.
This monkey doesn't like to dance. He likes being off
the rails. That's kind of It's funny that I had
a second piece of fruit there. What have you got there,
a little monkey. We're getting out of here, are we.
I'm going to the best guess the guest of the week.
You're under that as well. You can do guests of
(44:51):
the week. Well, look, I think you're going out on
Guests of the week. Guest of the week right was
obviously Stephen Pry but we've played a lot of him,
so we we've done We've done a soul like.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
We can't do that, so instead the guess of the
week was my daughter, So well we Had, We Had,
We Had is the guest book, and she absolutely bottled it.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
This week. She put Bo Bob.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Geldoft girled off Carrington Clark that from kid I think
I got carried.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I got no kid Lroy kid Larroy, we got got
Kidler right, but I think we put that up. It's
a great way. Do you want to defend yourself?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Ab?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Okay, there's a.
Speaker 10 (45:34):
Lot coming up.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Who've got next week? Who've got next week? Ab? Some
really fun ones.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Worry when they call it.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Mary Watts Mary Watts of fun fun.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
If you're shitting with Jamie Oliver good good, say yeah nice, nice, nice?
Speaker 6 (46:03):
Anyway, give your book a that counts for like five guests.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
She's done well. The absolutely show him some respect. Yeah
I am oh, yeah, yeah, get yeah. You don't want
to get on the one side, all right.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So your best guest of the week was my daughter
Max instead Woods. I mentioned this to you the other day.
So Max, my daughter, she's she's two and a half.
She just she started talking about you a fair bit.
So she obviously listens to me in the afternoon, so
she knows that when I go to work. Now she's
you know, it's kind of beautiful stages of a child's development.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
She sort of.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Steadily started realizing. She keeps asking me about the fact
that I work with adorable. So she's like, where's Woody,
where's Woody? And she got you going to work? And
then I say yes, and then she says with Woody.
But then I don't know what is going on? But
and I told you this off heir as well. She
started asking me about you and cake. Its weird and
(46:59):
I I can't get to the bottom that she says,
is wood he there?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Is he going to be there? And I said yes?
And then she says, has he got the cake? I
never and I never stole her cake. I think I
want to make that very clear for anyone listening who's
thinking that maybe I took her cake. I didn't. I
didn't actually affect that didn't get into the equation. But
I went to her second birthday. I had some cake,
but I didn't I didn't take the whole cake.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I don't think she's holding on to a grudge from her.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
What else, I don't know what I was a good be.
I've never stolen cake from her. I feel like she
went to her first birthday.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Was that the first person I mean, it could be
a year and a half on Brudge that she's onto
her friend let it go.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Maybe I don't know. Does she watched the instagram and
with the Will and Woody page Instagram?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
No, because I could be translating it wrong, like she
because she's saying this in Dutch.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
It but what's what's? What's?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's why I said to Sam, I was like, is
she trying to say something else to me? And she
was like, no, she's asking you about Woody and a cake.
So we anyway, we're talking about it this last night
and I was like, we just got to ask her.
So we're gonna call her now, all right, okay, perfect,
I'll just.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
I mean, I want you you to be quiet. So
she just.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
She's downs, Hello, Papa, Hey, Mexipy.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, it's puppy.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
It's my papa.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah it is it's your papa. How are you.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
Are you riking?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
No? I'm working, I'm working. What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Pa?
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Who you doelling? Okay? Hey, Mexi, Mexi? Who do I?
Who does puppy work with?
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Mad Woodie?
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Okay? Now what do we know about Woody? A happy jacket?
He has a jacket?
Speaker 5 (49:00):
Ye?
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Sometimes no doubt, no doubt. What else do you know
about Woody? What does Woody like to eat cake? Wow?
Why is that so controversial? This is very scandalous, Maxie.
(49:22):
I've got Woody here with me.
Speaker 11 (49:25):
Say hi, Max, see silent treatment, because clearly I stole
looking and she hasn't she hasn't forgotten about it.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yes, it's Woody. Hello, bonjour, Maxie. Woody. Woody has the cake.
She's angry, she's angry, she's shy. Hey Max, when did
I take the cake? Was it your cake? Maxie?
Speaker 5 (50:02):
You know, I think she may be thinking that. She's
listening to the radio show Brilliant, and she's like, I
can talk back. I read you at four o'clock. She's
gonna talk to the radio. She's like, I talk.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I think I need to bring a cake over or something,
even the score, just to smooth things over, to heal
his wound. Bye, bye, bags, bye, I got to the
tables already