April 22, 2024 • 17 mins
How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Will the moody. Sorry, that guy don't get it's funny
because it's what he's like when a microphone turns and
he goes in.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Quiz after five.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The latest celebrity from Miss Lebrity, Get Me out of It?
Where like a wind up toy, you are. That's not
what the podcast is, not even the pace of the
podcast that this podcast would. It's all about answering your questions,
questions that you have sent into us but you would
like us to answer. These can be curly, these can
be provocative, These can be funny, they can be interesting.
(00:40):
Hopefully I would say, I mean, you know what I
do like. Actually, if there was a blurb, bit of
a blurb to your question, why you want to ask
the question on Instagram, you can ask us tell us
why that's the thing for you. We've had some chat
about parenting recently, and more recently we had the last question,
which you'll say underneath here, which is the thing that
people aren't grateful for that they should be.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, great, almost caught you when a yawn there. You're
probably grateful for a sleeping child, something that you do
not have at the moment. It's faint. We both actually
discussed the fact that both of our children are going
through have been through patches where they sleep really really
well through the night, and you kind of you just
forget that it's a possibility that they'll wake up in
the middle of night.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
She's just sick at the moment, so she's Yeah, it's intense.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Isn't it amazing that we went through a period though,
where we were waking up like a couple of times
at night and all and then all it's like you
forgot I certainly you just get.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Good at it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You just get good at it, and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Actually, now most sleep needs are very low or much
lower than they need than they used to be.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, you're so much more capable than you think. That's
a nice positive message for everyone. Let's get into that
question though.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Before we get into the question as well, I just
want to remind everyone that we haven't forgot about the
great lion fact that will be at the end of
this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh yes, I've got a wonderful lion fact. And end
of the episode of the episode will do the line okay,
great because.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We heard Lines having an orgasm on the last well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't know that's what the audio is labeled, well,
I don't know if that was excuse me, line experts, Well,
you don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
What my fact is?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh good, hook. Okay, let's get into the question. These
these these are the kind of questions that get me going.
By the way, I'm so happy with whoever sent this in. Okay,
how important does a person have to be before they
are considered assassinated instead of just murders? Brilliant? That is
just a brilliant question, because because there is clearly a difference,
(02:38):
There is clearly a difference. Is it just that when
someone is.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Sorry, I'm going to stop myself before I even't finished
that thought, because I was thinking that it's assassinated when
they were the target. If if they are the target,
that's the singular target and they're assassinated. But you can
have a target to murder someone.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do you just need to have a position of power
to be assassinated as opposed to murdered? Does it need
to happen in public? Sorry? Will I over love these questions?
I'll let you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'll let you talk.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I just think does it need to be like
to be assassinated? Like? Okay, let's think about an assassination.
John F.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Kennedy. Yep, back into the left.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Second shooter on the grassy now, yep, right now, he
wasn't murdered, he was very specifically assassinated.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Well, he was murdered, but it was an assassination.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, No one calls it the murdering of John F. Kennedy.
It is the assassination of John F.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Kennedy. Yes, And I think that that's the qualifying factor.
I think that the murder is the action of killing someone. Sure,
but it becomes an assassin an assassination when they have
enough clout to be an assassination. Yes, and that's the question.
In fact, I think the person who wrote the question
(03:59):
already knows this. Said, at what point, how important does
the person happen? Does the act of murder become an
assassination vis a v? How powerful, how famous, how politically
important does a person have to be in order for
a murder to also be an assassination. I don't think
they're mutually exclusive. It's not murder or assassination. I think
(04:19):
a murder you have to murder to assassinate.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sure, but that only people of certain clout are also
assassinated everyone. If someone needs to be murdered, that's everyone. Yeah,
some of these people, if they're famous enough or powerful enough,
are also assassinating. Would you that I think I personally
think that there's got to be some sort of political motivation.
I don't think it's just a standard because I don't
(04:43):
think that like.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like, have I murdered you? For example? If I think
you assassinated me, no, because you're not important to like
a like, what political movement do you stand for? They
know that the men who live in residential suburbs and
wear surfing clothes. Sure, if that was like, that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Was a revolutionary movement. Okay, what if people act.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Like surface but aren't wait, then then that that then
that would mean like and if that party was like
you know, pivotal right now in terms you know in
their dios X macna.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And there, then lost me a little bit there, but
go on, sorry. In you it's the brand called that
you wear dais Oh yeah, not so much more That
mac Tavish is the big one there. They focus on surfboards.
MacTavish is a brand that like exclusively do surfboards. Is
a very small part of their website, which is clothing.
Ninety percent of my wardrobe is that clothing? Okay, great,
(05:38):
so don't surf as well. Sorry, that's an important.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, we know that. So if that, if that was important,
if if that group people were important to taking over
the government right now, and I killed you, then I
think it's an assassination because I think it's got to
be political motivation.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Interesting point, So are you saying then to your point,
if I was making a public if I'm don't think
what I would be doing if I was on a
stage somewhere and a crowd was watching me and then
you killed me? Yeah, have you assassinated me? Because it
was in front of a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think if the people you were listening to, if
you were like preaching to them, if you you know.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I'm doing stand up, you've murdered me, not assassinated.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Interesting, So you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think, I mean, I think so that's just what
my guts telling me. Because okay, I'll give you an
example someone, this is this is perfect John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, Oh was he assassinated?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think he was. I think he was deemed as
assassinated because he was making political points because he was
like he was a revolutionary figure. Absolutely, yeah, he was.
He was anti Vietnam, he was. He was this counterculture
icon who was stirring up a whole bunch of trouble.
He was peace and love and anti establishment.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So you must be like he stands some sort of
political movement or standing. He's saying, sorry, stands zaying I
stand for things, but you're, hey, hey, I can't be
kind to everyone stand hard for that.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, but I don't think that you're stirring those things
in other people to the point where it's becoming an
issue for another political movement. I think that's it. I
think another political movement has to have their B and
B in their bonnet about you.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Martin Luther King Boom, who was the Lincoln boom?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Abraham Lincoln? Yes, esnaated absolutely, John F. John F. Wilkes,
John F. Booth, No, Jacob Wilkes Wilkes booth, mckins someone
looking up Lincoln is I didn't know Abrahm Lincoln was
a booth at a theater?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is that right? Willis Wilkes booth?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Or it was done in a booth? What's the name.
I'm so close John F.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Wilkes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Do you think that John F. Kennedy wilkeson Wilkes booth,
John Wilkes booth in all done booth? Did him into
booth booth? Did him in a booth?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Abraham Lincoln, Yeah, you're right. So you need to be
a real pain in the art to another political movement
is that, go on, go on, Tom, what's happened? What's
happened here?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think so. I think that's exactly right. It's some
other famous ones.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Franz Ferdinand, he famously kicked off World War One, Friends
of the assassination of Friends exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He's the archer, he's the he's the leader of Hungary
at the time. It's a melting pot. They know if
they kill him then that's going to be justification. You
get hungry into the war. That's going to kick off
the dominoes, But you are going to create a world war.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Would the Merriam Mobster definition of assassination in a.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Second, because I think we're nearly there. Martin Luther King, Yes,
obviously leading a movement which is anti you know, another
political movie which see him as public enemy number one?
There to kill him?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What was John F. Kennedy talking about when he was assassinated,
what was.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
What was his good question? I'm gonna say, because he
didn't start Vietnam, that was technically eyesenhower if you look
into what was going on, Like, I think he's probably
more just like what, I actually don't know what the
motive for.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That was clearly some conspiracy theories. It's around the Marilyn
Monroe stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh really, well.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Again conspiracy theories. Right, I think it's very clear to
saying that I don't necessarily hold belief.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
But Lee Harvey Oswald that wrote but that he was shot.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
As he was led out of jail, Like it's just it's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All, was he really? Just why do you know so
much about assassinations? I mean, your world history knowledge generally
is really awful. And all of a sudden you've got
the guy who knocked off you know, the guy that
that knocked off Lincoln and you know the guy that
knocked off Kennedy and how he died.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, he's walking out of prison and he was shot
by a mobster. And it was like, okay, so who
shot him? Then why was he shot? And then he
was They were never able to really talk about like interrogating.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
He was kind of like the shining the Knight in
shining Armor for John F.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Absolutely, he was this guy who was this good looking
guy who was a war hero. You know, all of
a sudden he was part of his really wealthy family
and it was like, this guy's the perfect guy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, the conspiracy theory is that he's having an affair
with Marilyn Monroe. Did she's in his ear about welcome
to the History Channel. She's starting to influence him in
the way that he politically stands. Apparently there were certain people.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Because he's a good Christian boy at this stage, like
and there are.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Certain people who believe that. They were like, no, we
don't like which direction you're going in here, and they
organized for him to be right. And that's and then
so organized because of Marilyn Monroe. Well, I think that
was again going to the conspiracy theories, it was all
part of it. Wow, because he also look at Vietnam
booms is a more obvious thing for me, but you
(11:03):
look at Marilyn Monroe as well though, and the suspicious
suspicions around her around her, Yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because that was drug overdose, wasn't it. That was what
it was called. I love how much.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know about this. It's very interesting, one of my favorite.
So he's really at the time, guys, come on, sorry, sponsors, sponsors,
quick quick sponsors. One of the things which is work.
I'm sorry, I will put it down in a second.
I believe it's Fidel Castro, and it's either Fidel Castro
(11:41):
or no, it's Fidel Castro. And it was the attempts
that the Americans made to assassinate him, and some of
them are brilliant. One that comes to mind for me
was they once put into works a pin that had
LSD on the on the tip of it, and so
some a spy was going to get close enough to
(12:02):
Faddell to hit this pen and tap him in the
arm with this LSD. And the hope was, by the way,
and the hope was that because he would be so
shipping out and tripping out, the people would lose trust
in him and he'd be stumbling around and saying all
these wacky things, and that they would get rid of him.
(12:22):
He would lose power because he was being so odd on.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Isn't that that was the c I A generally genuinely
went like this will get him, give him, give him
shiploads of asward, and everyone thinks a weirdo.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I love that, the brightest mind in the American security network.
I've got it, guys. Let's send him on a trip.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We've done it anyway, all right?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The definition of assassination, yes, according to the English.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do we think we've come up with a satisfactory.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Do you want to give me all what you what
do you define as assassination?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think it needs to be the deliberate killing of
somebody for some sort of political motivation. I think it's
got to be political.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I agree with the murder of a person, especially a
prominent public figure, in a planned attack, typically with a
political or ideological motive.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Not bad.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sometimes carried out by a high or a professional killer.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Not bad. We've done that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I ever asked this question?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We have.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We have nailed that. They will be very happy. Whoever
asked this question?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Now? Do you want to hear my lion face? Absolutely? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Hit me? So this is the sound of lions mating?
Did you throw a order? Put your camera away, give
them some peace?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay? So that noise that you can hear, Tom button
Bushkurt Tom Early says it was an organism. It's actually
not so. Sex for mating for female lions or lionesses
is incredibly painful, and this is the reason I hate cats.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Males. Oh easy, I have a cat. I have a
male cat.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You hate him? Yeah, it's yeah, male cats have barbed penises, right.
So sex for a lioness is incredibly painful, to the
point to the point where if a male lion tries
(14:41):
to approach them then they will turn around and try
and kill him. So the only way that a male
lion can mate with a female lion is by putting
his jaws around her throat, and then she can't move interestingly,
because then otherwise she turned around and ripy's head off. Interestingly,
the pain that she experiences because of his barbed penis
(15:05):
and the withdrawal is completely necessary for her ovulation cycle
to kick off. Your head around that?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
From an evolutionary perspective, how how did that happen? How
could that possibly happen? That that is, how could how
could how could a pin evolve to have barb is? Absolutely?
But can you try and undertain it for just twos?
I know we've gone too long. How could a penis
ever evolved? To grow barbs climbing trees also clod for
(15:38):
rock climbing just doesn't make sense to a number of Really,
if you're rock climb.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
If you're in the wild, I don't know. Having a
dagger in your in your in your boot. I imagine, last, last, last,
getting with your barbed penis got me, You've got me.
Imagine being the one, the one lion without a barbed
penis though, absolute lord, oh when that mutation happens.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Huge and not kicking off any ovulation cycles, sexy out
the baby.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's natural contraception. Everyone enjoys it, right.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I think there's Yeah, there's some work to be
doing there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'd be genetic genetically modifying lions right now if I could,
just to make sure that one of them had an
unbarbed cock. Yeah, and just let him just set him
out there, just give their females a bit of fun, yeah,
actually be enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, that's the reason the other lions on need to
keep their barbed penis, because another reason why they've got
it is to hopefully get rid of any leftover sperm
from another lion.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So the bob, like a squeege in your shower, gets in.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
He's got a better shower, a better shower, better chance.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, L Jackson, that's bloody hell. It does have a use.
It does have a use, squeegee and rock climbing. Anyway,
another radible having sex tomorrow
Will the moody. Sorry, that guy don't get it's funny
because it's what he's like when a microphone turns and
he goes in.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Quiz after five.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The latest celebrity from Miss Lebrity, Get Me out of It?
Where like a wind up toy, you are. That's not
what the podcast is, not even the pace of the
podcast that this podcast would. It's all about answering your questions,
questions that you have sent into us but you would
like us to answer. These can be curly, these can
be provocative, These can be funny, they can be interesting.
(00:40):
Hopefully I would say, I mean, you know what I
do like. Actually, if there was a blurb, bit of
a blurb to your question, why you want to ask
the question on Instagram, you can ask us tell us
why that's the thing for you. We've had some chat
about parenting recently, and more recently we had the last question,
which you'll say underneath here, which is the thing that
people aren't grateful for that they should be.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, great, almost caught you when a yawn there. You're
probably grateful for a sleeping child, something that you do
not have at the moment. It's faint. We both actually
discussed the fact that both of our children are going
through have been through patches where they sleep really really
well through the night, and you kind of you just
forget that it's a possibility that they'll wake up in
the middle of night.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
She's just sick at the moment, so she's Yeah, it's intense.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Isn't it amazing that we went through a period though,
where we were waking up like a couple of times
at night and all and then all it's like you
forgot I certainly you just get.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Good at it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You just get good at it, and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Actually, now most sleep needs are very low or much
lower than they need than they used to be.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, you're so much more capable than you think. That's
a nice positive message for everyone. Let's get into that
question though.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Before we get into the question as well, I just
want to remind everyone that we haven't forgot about the
great lion fact that will be at the end of
this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh yes, I've got a wonderful lion fact. And end
of the episode of the episode will do the line okay,
great because.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We heard Lines having an orgasm on the last well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't know that's what the audio is labeled, well,
I don't know if that was excuse me, line experts, Well,
you don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
What my fact is?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh good, hook. Okay, let's get into the question. These
these these are the kind of questions that get me going.
By the way, I'm so happy with whoever sent this in. Okay,
how important does a person have to be before they
are considered assassinated instead of just murders? Brilliant? That is
just a brilliant question, because because there is clearly a difference,
(02:38):
There is clearly a difference. Is it just that when
someone is.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Sorry, I'm going to stop myself before I even't finished
that thought, because I was thinking that it's assassinated when
they were the target. If if they are the target,
that's the singular target and they're assassinated. But you can
have a target to murder someone.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do you just need to have a position of power
to be assassinated as opposed to murdered? Does it need
to happen in public? Sorry? Will I over love these questions?
I'll let you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'll let you talk.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I just think does it need to be like
to be assassinated? Like? Okay, let's think about an assassination.
John F.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Kennedy. Yep, back into the left.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Second shooter on the grassy now, yep, right now, he
wasn't murdered, he was very specifically assassinated.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Well, he was murdered, but it was an assassination.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, No one calls it the murdering of John F. Kennedy.
It is the assassination of John F.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Kennedy. Yes, And I think that that's the qualifying factor.
I think that the murder is the action of killing someone. Sure,
but it becomes an assassin an assassination when they have
enough clout to be an assassination. Yes, and that's the question.
In fact, I think the person who wrote the question
(03:59):
already knows this. Said, at what point, how important does
the person happen? Does the act of murder become an
assassination vis a v? How powerful, how famous, how politically
important does a person have to be in order for
a murder to also be an assassination. I don't think
they're mutually exclusive. It's not murder or assassination. I think
(04:19):
a murder you have to murder to assassinate.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sure, but that only people of certain clout are also
assassinated everyone. If someone needs to be murdered, that's everyone. Yeah,
some of these people, if they're famous enough or powerful enough,
are also assassinating. Would you that I think I personally
think that there's got to be some sort of political motivation.
I don't think it's just a standard because I don't
(04:43):
think that like.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like, have I murdered you? For example? If I think
you assassinated me, no, because you're not important to like
a like, what political movement do you stand for? They
know that the men who live in residential suburbs and
wear surfing clothes. Sure, if that was like, that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Was a revolutionary movement. Okay, what if people act.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Like surface but aren't wait, then then that that then
that would mean like and if that party was like
you know, pivotal right now in terms you know in
their dios X macna.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And there, then lost me a little bit there, but
go on, sorry. In you it's the brand called that
you wear dais Oh yeah, not so much more That
mac Tavish is the big one there. They focus on surfboards.
MacTavish is a brand that like exclusively do surfboards. Is
a very small part of their website, which is clothing.
Ninety percent of my wardrobe is that clothing? Okay, great,
(05:38):
so don't surf as well. Sorry, that's an important.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, we know that. So if that, if that was important,
if if that group people were important to taking over
the government right now, and I killed you, then I
think it's an assassination because I think it's got to
be political motivation.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Interesting point, So are you saying then to your point,
if I was making a public if I'm don't think
what I would be doing if I was on a
stage somewhere and a crowd was watching me and then
you killed me? Yeah, have you assassinated me? Because it
was in front of a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think if the people you were listening to, if
you were like preaching to them, if you you know.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If I'm doing stand up, you've murdered me, not assassinated.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Interesting, So you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think, I mean, I think so that's just what
my guts telling me. Because okay, I'll give you an
example someone, this is this is perfect John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, Oh was he assassinated?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think he was. I think he was deemed as
assassinated because he was making political points because he was
like he was a revolutionary figure. Absolutely, yeah, he was.
He was anti Vietnam, he was. He was this counterculture
icon who was stirring up a whole bunch of trouble.
He was peace and love and anti establishment.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So you must be like he stands some sort of
political movement or standing. He's saying, sorry, stands zaying I
stand for things, but you're, hey, hey, I can't be
kind to everyone stand hard for that.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, but I don't think that you're stirring those things
in other people to the point where it's becoming an
issue for another political movement. I think that's it. I
think another political movement has to have their B and
B in their bonnet about you.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Martin Luther King Boom, who was the Lincoln boom?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Abraham Lincoln? Yes, esnaated absolutely, John F. John F. Wilkes,
John F. Booth, No, Jacob Wilkes Wilkes booth, mckins someone
looking up Lincoln is I didn't know Abrahm Lincoln was
a booth at a theater?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is that right? Willis Wilkes booth?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Or it was done in a booth? What's the name.
I'm so close John F.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Wilkes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Do you think that John F. Kennedy wilkeson Wilkes booth,
John Wilkes booth in all done booth? Did him into
booth booth? Did him in a booth?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Abraham Lincoln, Yeah, you're right. So you need to be
a real pain in the art to another political movement
is that, go on, go on, Tom, what's happened? What's
happened here?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think so. I think that's exactly right. It's some
other famous ones.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Franz Ferdinand, he famously kicked off World War One, Friends
of the assassination of Friends exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He's the archer, he's the he's the leader of Hungary
at the time. It's a melting pot. They know if
they kill him then that's going to be justification. You
get hungry into the war. That's going to kick off
the dominoes, But you are going to create a world war.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Would the Merriam Mobster definition of assassination in a.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Second, because I think we're nearly there. Martin Luther King, Yes,
obviously leading a movement which is anti you know, another
political movie which see him as public enemy number one?
There to kill him?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What was John F. Kennedy talking about when he was assassinated,
what was.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
What was his good question? I'm gonna say, because he
didn't start Vietnam, that was technically eyesenhower if you look
into what was going on, Like, I think he's probably
more just like what, I actually don't know what the
motive for.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That was clearly some conspiracy theories. It's around the Marilyn
Monroe stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh really, well.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Again conspiracy theories. Right, I think it's very clear to
saying that I don't necessarily hold belief.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
But Lee Harvey Oswald that wrote but that he was shot.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
As he was led out of jail, Like it's just it's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All, was he really? Just why do you know so
much about assassinations? I mean, your world history knowledge generally
is really awful. And all of a sudden you've got
the guy who knocked off you know, the guy that
that knocked off Lincoln and you know the guy that
knocked off Kennedy and how he died.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, he's walking out of prison and he was shot
by a mobster. And it was like, okay, so who
shot him? Then why was he shot? And then he
was They were never able to really talk about like interrogating.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
He was kind of like the shining the Knight in
shining Armor for John F.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Absolutely, he was this guy who was this good looking
guy who was a war hero. You know, all of
a sudden he was part of his really wealthy family
and it was like, this guy's the perfect guy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, the conspiracy theory is that he's having an affair
with Marilyn Monroe. Did she's in his ear about welcome
to the History Channel. She's starting to influence him in
the way that he politically stands. Apparently there were certain people.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Because he's a good Christian boy at this stage, like
and there are.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Certain people who believe that. They were like, no, we
don't like which direction you're going in here, and they
organized for him to be right. And that's and then
so organized because of Marilyn Monroe. Well, I think that
was again going to the conspiracy theories, it was all
part of it. Wow, because he also look at Vietnam
booms is a more obvious thing for me, but you
(11:03):
look at Marilyn Monroe as well though, and the suspicious
suspicions around her around her, Yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because that was drug overdose, wasn't it. That was what
it was called. I love how much.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know about this. It's very interesting, one of my favorite.
So he's really at the time, guys, come on, sorry, sponsors, sponsors,
quick quick sponsors. One of the things which is work.
I'm sorry, I will put it down in a second.
I believe it's Fidel Castro, and it's either Fidel Castro
(11:41):
or no, it's Fidel Castro. And it was the attempts
that the Americans made to assassinate him, and some of
them are brilliant. One that comes to mind for me
was they once put into works a pin that had
LSD on the on the tip of it, and so
some a spy was going to get close enough to
(12:02):
Faddell to hit this pen and tap him in the
arm with this LSD. And the hope was, by the way,
and the hope was that because he would be so
shipping out and tripping out, the people would lose trust
in him and he'd be stumbling around and saying all
these wacky things, and that they would get rid of him.
(12:22):
He would lose power because he was being so odd on.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Isn't that that was the c I A generally genuinely
went like this will get him, give him, give him
shiploads of asward, and everyone thinks a weirdo.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I love that, the brightest mind in the American security network.
I've got it, guys. Let's send him on a trip.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We've done it anyway, all right?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The definition of assassination, yes, according to the English.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do we think we've come up with a satisfactory.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Do you want to give me all what you what
do you define as assassination?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think it needs to be the deliberate killing of
somebody for some sort of political motivation. I think it's
got to be political.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I agree with the murder of a person, especially a
prominent public figure, in a planned attack, typically with a
political or ideological motive.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Not bad.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sometimes carried out by a high or a professional killer.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Not bad. We've done that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I ever asked this question?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We have.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We have nailed that. They will be very happy. Whoever
asked this question?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Now? Do you want to hear my lion face? Absolutely? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Hit me? So this is the sound of lions mating?
Did you throw a order? Put your camera away, give
them some peace?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay? So that noise that you can hear, Tom button
Bushkurt Tom Early says it was an organism. It's actually
not so. Sex for mating for female lions or lionesses
is incredibly painful, and this is the reason I hate cats.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Males. Oh easy, I have a cat. I have a
male cat.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
You hate him? Yeah, it's yeah, male cats have barbed penises, right.
So sex for a lioness is incredibly painful, to the
point to the point where if a male lion tries
(14:41):
to approach them then they will turn around and try
and kill him. So the only way that a male
lion can mate with a female lion is by putting
his jaws around her throat, and then she can't move interestingly,
because then otherwise she turned around and ripy's head off. Interestingly,
the pain that she experiences because of his barbed penis
(15:05):
and the withdrawal is completely necessary for her ovulation cycle
to kick off. Your head around that?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
From an evolutionary perspective, how how did that happen? How
could that possibly happen? That that is, how could how
could how could a pin evolve to have barb is? Absolutely?
But can you try and undertain it for just twos?
I know we've gone too long. How could a penis
ever evolved? To grow barbs climbing trees also clod for
(15:38):
rock climbing just doesn't make sense to a number of Really,
if you're rock climb.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
If you're in the wild, I don't know. Having a
dagger in your in your in your boot. I imagine, last, last, last,
getting with your barbed penis got me, You've got me.
Imagine being the one, the one lion without a barbed
penis though, absolute lord, oh when that mutation happens.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Huge and not kicking off any ovulation cycles, sexy out
the baby.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's natural contraception. Everyone enjoys it, right.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I think there's Yeah, there's some work to be
doing there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'd be genetic genetically modifying lions right now if I could,
just to make sure that one of them had an
unbarbed cock. Yeah, and just let him just set him
out there, just give their females a bit of fun, yeah,
actually be enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, that's the reason the other lions on need to
keep their barbed penis, because another reason why they've got
it is to hopefully get rid of any leftover sperm
from another lion.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So the bob, like a squeege in your shower, gets in.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
He's got a better shower, a better shower, better chance.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, L Jackson, that's bloody hell. It does have a use.
It does have a use, squeegee and rock climbing. Anyway,
another radible having sex tomorrow
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