April 27, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the New York Knicks winning their playoff series against the Cavaliers, the most recent NFL Draft rumors as we are less then 24 hours away from draft time, and the guys react to the crazy ending of the Miami Heat/Milwaukee Bucks game as Miami upsets the Bucks to advance to round two of the playoffs!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome inside. May what be the greatest sports
day of my life?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It doesn't get any better.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's all downhill from here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
What I'll have tonight?
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Aaron Rodgers is introduced for the first time as a
jet He talks about the Super Bowl. The Nicks eliminate
the Cavaliers in five and they look like one of
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the top three teams in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I've got a night like this, Mike, since Syracuse won
it all in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, the last forty eight hours, I mean seventy two hours,
go back to Monday. I mean, it's just been your world.
The Knicks cruising along and vanquishing the cavaliers. And you
heard the call there. Honk your horns, you know, climb poles,
get on top of cards, whatever you're in cars, You're
gonna whatever you're gonna do. Take over seventh again. But
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huge stuff. Aaron Rodgers comes, He's all smiles and and
meets the crowd. Draft is tomorrow, all of these beautiful
things coming together for you. Now, you just need to
get one inning out of Justin Verlander and your years complete.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's let you know, let's let's walk before we can run.
Just one, but let's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Walk on one pitching. Ceremonial first pitch. How about that?
A ceremonial first pitch of an ex home stand.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But yes, the Knicks are onto the second round of
the playoffs for the third time this century. That doesn't
it doesn't sound doesn't sound very impressed.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So if people forget what it is like they do
when they go to write a check in January. If
they do that, then it works.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But I you know, listen, there's two big basketball stories
we're going to talk about then over the next few minutes.
The both I'm gonna say. I hate to say I
told you so, but I told you the Knicks were good,
and all season long it was nuh they're winning a
couple of games here, and then I told you the
Knicks were good. I told you Jalen Brunson was going
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to be the difference maker on the team. I told
you this. I told you having Brunson to take the
pressure off of Julius Randall's gonna be great things with
Julius Randall. I told you how deep the Knicks are,
that Emmanuel Quickly or Obi Toppin can come off the
bench with huge games. They are deep. They are good.
And watch out and look at the Knicks proving how
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absolutely irrelevant the regular season is by knocking off the Cavaliers,
who won fifty one games in five and they made
it look easy. Look outside of Darius Garland superhuman game
to give them the win. Earlier this series, the Knicks
defense did nothing but shut the Cavaliers offense down in
a large way. Right, the Knicks looks it's just like
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the Jets. People don't want to admit the Jets have
it all. They got rogers, they got a running game,
they got wide receivers, they got a defense. People don't
want to admit the Knicks have it all. They have
an offense, they have a bench, they have a defense. Uh,
people don't. But you gotta get to it because look
at the Knicks. Look at the Knicks. Look how good
they are. They have arrived. They have arrived. And now
if you said, hey, who's getting out of the East
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to go to the NBA Finals, The Knicks are in
that conversation, Greg, They're only gonna be four teams left
and they be in the top. But if you're talking about, boy,
the Celtics, they look a little vulnerable. Oh, the Bucks
could wind up going home. The Sixers are okay, but
they beat the Nets. Boy, look at the Knicks, man,
look at the Knicks. And I know the heat one,
but let's ignore them for a second. But if you
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look at the Knicks, man, I'm telling I've been telling
you all year long. It's a big party tonight with
the Knicks winning. Knicks fans they're gonna turn the city over.
I mean, it's you're gonna wake up tomorrow. It's gonna
look like I am legend. It's like, look at all
the tumbleweeds and all the destruction and a mean, it's
like there's a huge Fourth of July and New Year's
Eve party all going on in New York.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Knicks Nicks, Knicks nick Well, general rules apply. You don't
want to finish too soon. But when we talk with
your celebrations, right, with your celebrations, you still have a
lot of work to do. This is a great milestone
and you can hear it in the column. Wow, this
is just so great. It's like, no, no, no, that's part one.
I mean, this is you don't you don't even need
a trilogy. You need to keep going. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I've had no parts before.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But you need to write the rest of the sequels.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
This is JK. Rowle going back to the drawing board
for book four. Yes, and I know she's not a
popular figure right now, but we had to write part
four of Hogwarts before we could get down to the
dramatic conclusion of everything. All about progressions. You want Tolkien
do Tolkien whatever's gonna make you feel better about yourself.
But we look at your Nicks, right. The Celtics entered
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in with a lot of questions. Great roster, but do
Brown and Tatum get along? What's Marcus smart all about?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The coaching change, all of those things? And here they are,
and there are some cracks. We're watching the Bucks now
as Jimmy Buckets and company try to take them out.
Giannis didn't give it at the old College triw We
have no idea how injured he is and all of
this process. But we're at that point in a series
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where there's a lot of hand ringing going on. The Sixers.
Nobody trusts the Sixers as well as they played in
that first round. Why because Joel Embiid has not hurt again.
And you keep waiting for James Harden to turn into
the proverbial pumpkin or it'll start looking like a pumpkin,
whichever is gonna happen, because that's happened in the past too.
So all of that leads to your Nicks, and it
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was could they battle through what is always the April
doldrums of a Tom Thibodeau squad. I get to April
and then play through it without massive repercussions. And right
now they're playing great basketball. Led to ten, led by
ten at the break, twelve after three, and finish the job.
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Fantastic work all around. Jalen Bronson, we talked about him
for months and now he's the most popular man in
NBA land.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Look at the Knicks. Look at that. I'm like a
proud parrot. Look at the Knicks, Look at the look.
I don't know what's better seeing Aaron Rodgers actually on
stage talking about the Jets and the super Bowl or
watching the Knicks completely dismantled the Cavalty.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Because the other thing here is the highlights are rolling.
And for those that missed the game, Julius Randall only
played sixteen minutes yep. Was in street clothes and looked
really uncomfortable. So something to watch going forward. But you
got great contributions twenty one from Barrett seven to thirteen.
An efficient game from Barrick. We've had a lot of
eighteen to twenty three point games from him, but the
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shooting percentage is off. No, here he was efficient. You
got twenty three from the aforementioned Brunson, Robinson and Randall,
both with thirteen and then you got nineteen from your
guy quickly off the bench. The Knicks his name was Quickly.
They did it quickly too.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They play good defense. They look. Thibodeau figured out the
rotation very early in the season when he said, ah,
you know what, Evan Fournier plays too much. Yeah, Derreck
Rose plays too much. Those guys stopped playing, and that's
when the Knicks took off. He figured things out. You
could say what you want about Tom Thibodeau and everything,
but he figured things out. Yeah, he buried the those
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guys on the betchel Derrek Rose played the other night
for the first time since the beginning of January. Hey,
Derek Rose is on the floor. Well, but that buddy
figured it out. Man, the Knicks. Ignore the Knicks at
your own peril, Mike Harmon, ignore the next of your
own peril.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well to wrap arms around him in Monsey's here, so
she's gonna have to wear it all night for this
one with the Clippers going home is. One of the
criticisms of Tylo was that he was stubborn and wouldn't
adjust his rotations and minutes, and that he was still
playing guys that clearly were ineffective, but damn it, he
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was going to push his way through with his guys.
Whereas Thibodeau, for all of the reputation, for all of
the history and the fact that Derek Rose is his guy,
he realized it. Whether it was the fans and a
big letter writing campaign, he acknowledged it. So then, like Shawshank,
they wrote to a day to really put it over
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the top. And he finally got him out of the rotation,
recognizing that that wasn't helping the situation, wasn't helping to
push things that Brunson had built and they got better.
He learned, there you go teaching the old dog new tricks.
Because now the Knicks have advanced to the next round
of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey, let's see how that hurt. How that sounded. Let's
hear then, and if you play the butt fumble, tyshert,
we really are going to fight. You may go home.
You may go home with less fingers than you came
to work with. Just say, wow, are you the Knicks
final call? This doesn't I don't think tyshe I have
known you since the Knicks actually won a round of
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the playoffs. Can you shuffle checks with your left hand.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yes, here's my question, Jason, number one, are you going
to drive in to do that?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
In two?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
How many fingers do I have?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You have ten? Do you think so maybe you go
home with eight?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Have you ever really counted his fingers?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I mean it would explain a lot if he only had,
like I mean, he may.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Be alfon Seko over there, the Princess Bride with That's right,
there we go. We got the Princess Bride and Antonio
Alfonseka into the first segment.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
How did it sound the Knicks moving on to the
next round? See what I did? I did the rhyme, right,
I did the whole I did the whole.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Phasict right there, nicely done.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's hear the call with.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The thirty nines pick in the twenty thirteen NFL draft
the New York Jets the legs Gino Smith June, Julie,
let's get up.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That's my fault. I didn't say don't play the Gino Smith. Yeah,
I just said not the button.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, but before we do, Clayton, do you hear the
Knicks sound?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I always participated for the last however many years a
mock draft down in Jacksonville, where I do the Chargers
pick and right before me was Softy, so I had
to come on after him, which man, I started talking
like I had caffeine running through my veins, talking really
fast and really loudly. It's like you're trying to match SOFTI.
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He's like, Yeah, that's my guy. And if I don't
match the energy, because I know he's still listening, he'll
curse me out the next time I talked to him.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
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Knicks moving on to the second round for the first
titsan How old are youre? In twenty thirteen? Where were
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you eleven?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Twenty thirteen? So I graduated in twenty Let me see
twenty two a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Easier for you than that. It should carry the one.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Don't forget to carry the one? Yeah, shive me a
lot of Do I mind this one for COVID year
or does it just stay the same?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Oh my god, play the highlight, Play the highlight. Three
seconds two one. Donovan Mitchell home all people shribles it out.
It's over for the first time in a decade.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The Knicks. You're moving on to the second round, the.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Final scoring game five the Knicks one oh six the
Cavaliers ninety five. Knicks fans, you've waited a long time. Celebrate,
hount your horns. It's happening. Nix, You're moving on in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Laugh to support his guy, But I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I will tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You want a bond villain.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You want to you want a big bold prediction. This
is the This will be the best easiest bull prediction ever.
You wait and see what kind of videos Nicks fix
wind up getting up on the internet in the next
twenty four hours. You just wait and see. You want videos,
I'll show you videos. You'll stop looking at cat videos,
You'll stop looking at TikTok, You'll stop looking at everything.
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He oh, I don't want this? Do I want this? No?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, wait? Wait do you see the videos Knicks fans
put up in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's all I need And you don't stop.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Nicks, Knicks, Nicks, Nicks, Knicksnicks. I told you our stat
I told you now. Nobody will take the Knicks lightly.
Knicks may be the favorites now to make it to
the end, Right now, this moment in time, the Knicks
may be the favorites to make it to the NBA
Finals in the East. Who's a favorite over them? Everybody
else is still playing And no, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna say the Sixers. No, not happening. So yeah,
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the Knicks may be the favorite just because you.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Hate Philadelphia Nicks Nicks, because you've been doing that bad accent.
And nobody brought us a HOGI canti what.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
He's doing here right, No one's talking about us now
because we have having his team.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, he can nixt to the curb. Last night, when
Darreon Rodgers signed with the Jets, enticer, do we have
that alcohol, the Knicks mattered.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I went with it, But now tonight they do
and now everything matters, you guys.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not even the Knicks mattered, not even the mis matter.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You just want to take away from the greatest day
of my life.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, the Mets.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think day. I don't have any time for
the Mets to night because the Knight's about the Knicks
and Aaron Rocket the first.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Time they've lost four in a row in the box
Shoulder era.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No time and yeah, and the last two have been
to the Bleeping Nationals. But no stops, SAP, SAPs match
Knicks Nicks, Knicks Nicks, not even.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
The Knicks mattered.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
My goodness, I need a thirty for thirty on the
last six seconds of the Bucks in the Heat woo,
let me just tell you what happened before we get
to our guests, because this is absolute insanity and Jimmy
Butler has turned into Michael Jordan. We are headed to overtime.
With six seconds left, the Heat were down by a point.
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The Bucks were trying to get the ball up court
and a really ridiculously bad foul was called on Kyle Lowry.
The ball went bouncing out of bounds. Lowry tried to
get it. There was no foul. Kyle Lowry's going after
the ball and with the whistle blowing, the ball goes
out of bounds. The officials went back and reviewed it
no foul on Lowry. But because nobody had the basketball,
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they run a jump ball from center court. I mean,
and Lowry clearly would have gotten the ball had they
not blown the whistle. He stopped the play because the
whistle blew, and then they went back said no foul,
and so I the jump ball from half court. So
the Heat gets screwed. Jannis nearly throws the ball out
of bounds off of the jump because the Bucks win it,
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Middleton saves it by knocking out a camera guy a
running to keep the ball in bounds. The Bucks make
one of their free throws after the Heat foul with
two seconds left to go. So now the Heater are
down two. With just over two seconds left to go,
they run an alley you play for Jimmy Butler and
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Jimmy Butler gets away with a pushoff, catches the ball
while falling down one hand. He chucks it up from
right around the a little bit inside of the elbow, swish.
Overtime one eighteen one eighteen oh My joining us now
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on the hotline. Jimmy longtime NBA insider. Check him out
on Twitter at ge Underscore Medina it's Mark Medina. Mark.
I don't know, man, I'm so excited about the Knicks tonight.
But those last six seconds of this Bucks heat game,
who is that something?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yeah, Jimmy Buckets, Jimmy Butler reminded me of the bubble,
And you know what, in pertaining to the playoffs, these
first round heroics kind of remind me, you know, with
how he ignites the fan base and you know, really
rips the heart out of a visiting team. Kind of
reminds me of ninety five when Reggie Miller had eight
points in eight seconds or something. I don't know which
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one was worse.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was eight points and six seconds. Okay, do we
need to do we need you know what on a
night where this is my night, where the Knicks proved
one of the top sixsmart in the NBA. You know what, No,
you don't get to get away with that. I need
two great things about the Knicks from you right now
before you wanted this interview. Two great things about the Knicks.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Go well, I mean, look, they beat the Calves four
to one in the first round. So that's compliment number one.
Number two, Jalen Brunson, he deserves the max and maybe
another contract here, So that's compliment number two. Anything else, No.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's pretty good. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Okay with that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm all right with that. I'm alright with that. Mark
Medina with us here Fox Sports Radio. All right, So
while we watch overtime unfold with with with Miami Milwaukee,
just really quick on Jimmy Buckets, because every year in
the playoffs he's able to ascend and become a guy
that looks like like dominating games like Kobe Bryant would
dominate games. And yet during the regular season we plays
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he's a nice twenty point a game guy, you know,
I mean, I don't know if I don't know if
if we should treat him as hey, look at how
he elevates in the playoffs are Hey, dude, you could
do a little bit more in the regular season.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Well, hey, you know, I'm with you on Jimmy as
far as his playoffs are concerned. I think with the
regular season, it's not so much that he's sandbagging it
or anything like that. He was out for a lot
of the season, and it wasn't because of load management.
It was the opposite that he had actual substantial injuries.
And so I think it comes to show that you know,
once he's healthy, you know, there's really no stopping Jimmy Butler.
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I mean, he had a really good postseason last year,
and there is kind of that what if, you know,
he's playing through a grinded out series against Boston seven games,
he misses that three, but it's one of those things
that the heat rode with them and they know, you
know what, we're going to take the good and the
bad because his competitive spirit usually yields wins. And what
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he's shown in the first round against Milwaukee again brings
a lot of parallels to that finals run in the
Bubble where the Lakers they clearly had a lot more depth.
You know, Lebron James, Anthony Davis are were dominanting that series.
But there are times, especially in that Game three, where
he just poured everything out there on the court to
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carry his team to win. And you know, I think
fans appreciate that wind. You know, not only are they
doing something spectacular, but they're really exhaust in everything they
have to try to make that happen.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Speak of exhausting, and you bring up the Lakers. Lebron
James had no legs left and the jump shots were
today as they dropped his game to the grizz Jason
had theorized that it might have been best to claim
they'd you know, gotten I don't know, sick for some
bad poy or something, or claimed injury and missed this one,
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readying for a game six. They fought back in the third,
but ultimately not enough. But thirty seven minutes, that really
kind of stands out when you look at the box score.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, look, the Grizzlies are
a good team. They have the best home record in
the NBA, So I think that there was thirling expectation
that the Grizzlies would be a much better team. But yeah,
it didn't help that Lebron James was a shall of himself.
Fifteen points, five to seven team from the field, one
to nine from deep, and the thirty seven minutes. What's
interesting is that might seem high for a regular season game,
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you know, in his twentieth season, thirty eight years old,
but that's you know, kind of part for the course
for a playoff game. But I know that, you know,
coming off that overtime win against Memphis in Game four,
he had forty five minutes. He had a career high
in rebounds twenty afterwards, he was admitting that he felt
exhausted there. And even if he is doing quote unquote
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all the right things of taking care of his body,
you can connect the dots. A very short turnaround, two
days in between games, you know, across country flight, very
little recovery time. I think you are seeing those early
signs of the fatigue wearing on him, and I think
the challenge moving forward is that they have a quick
turnaround time for Friday's game six, as well as because
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of the fact that they had a missed opportunity here
without closing out. If they are to advance to the
next round, you know, they could play the Warriors, or
the play the Warriors or the Kings as early as Sunday,
So there's going to be very little recovery time there,
and you just wonder to what extent can those small
things eventually add up to something big and playoffs a
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lot of times attrition winds up becoming accumulative effect as
well as health and us knowing that of all the
things that can determine whether the Lakers win a title
or not, the biggest thing is how healthy can Lebron
James Be. You can't help but wonder if this is
a red flag?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Could they have done that? Mark? Could they have said
come up because I said after Monday, okay, they're up
three to one. It's an incredibly quick turnaround, right, you
talk about a late game on Monday night and early
game on Wednesday. The Lakers could say, hey, Ad and
Lebron are dealing with injuries, they're questionable for Wednesday. They
don't even make the trip and they get three and
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a half days off and then they're ready for Game
six on Friday. And then if they have a quick
turnaround to play Sunday, okay, at least they've had the
three and a half days off before. Could they do that?
Because the way teams get hurt nowadays and stars get hurt,
I can't believe we're far away from anybody, any team
pulling that in the series they're up three to nothing,
or they want to get guys extra restaurant.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Well, look, the Lakers aren't the Clippers, so they're not
going to do that. Number one, you know, hanging fruit
and fairness. You know, I'll get into the Clippers, But
to answer your question with the Lakers, they're not going
to do that because he's not having an injury, he's
just you know, it's fatigue and you just want to
maintain things. And I think that when you try to
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play the long game in a playoffs series, it could
wind up blowing up in your face because so many
things can change from game to game. You have to
try to do whatever you can in front of you.
So I think if there was something that he was
dealing with where you know, it's it's clearly an injury
as opposed to something that he's just hurting or he's tired,
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they would have set him out. But here, even less
than one hundred percent, Lebron James is going to help
them win games. And I think in fairness to the
Lakers and to him, you know, it wasn't just him.
I mean Austin Reeves and D'Angel Russell didn't make shots
and so that didn't help the cause. In fairness, the Clippers,
Kawhi Leonard was actually hurt during the playoffs. I understand
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the frustration of him being in out of the lineup
during the regular season, but look, he's had an extense
of injury history, and whether you agree with it or not,
the Clippers felt Hey, you got to be cautious with that,
But I couldn't help but throw that out there because
you're just dangling that low hanging frough in front of him.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, sometimes you just have to grab it, would Gowhi Leonard.
There certainly a lot of hot take nonsense about his
status and anything else. Always questions about his injuries, and
some will dismiss them as illegitimate given pass fights with
training staffs and what have you. But the Clippers are done,
they're going to get some free up, some cap. You
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saw that Russell Westbrook at is three for eighteen, so
that went back to from whence it came. So they're
just stuck. It would seem at least short term, with
a new stadium on the horizon and a lot of
dollars committed to Kawhi and Paul George, even though a
hard reset button the dump button in our studio might
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be more in order.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, look, the Clippers haven't hesitated from using that dump button.
You know, they blew up lob City once it was
clear that that was hit in the wrong direction, and
so that could very well happen here. But in this
present point in time, you know, I reported earlier today
that the Clippers remained committed to Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
They have two years left on their contract last year
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on those deals or player options. But I think they're
looking at through this lens guys. These guys are still
in their prime early thirties. It's not like you're talking
about mid to late thirties. And I think that even
though the extensive injury at history is what it is,
it's documented, you can't refute it. They very much thinks
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it's mostly circumstantial. Why I say this is Paul George's
latest injury with his right knee, lu Dort crashes into him.
This wasn't a thing of Oh, they tried to be
very cautious and it wasn't worth it. He had a
freak injury on the court with Kawhi a little bit different.
But they're also mindful that they've been trying to be
(25:06):
very proactive with managing that quad injury that they gets
back to his final year in San Antonio, as well
as the ACL injury. And while they are adamant that
this maniscus tear wasn't directly correlated to the ACL tear
that he had that required surgery, made a miss all
the twenty twenty one season. They were mindful that this
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year was the first full season after missing all of
last season from that injury, and usually it takes time
to build a rhythm. In the second season, most players
are a lot better, so they're envisioning a full recovery
with that. But the reality is this, these last four years,
they've never been able to get all four all two
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of those guys healthy at the same time. Clearly that
championship aspirations they haven't fulfilled that. But I think that
they feel that there still is a championship window that
they can climate through, not even just next season, but
the next few years. But the reality is this guy,
Steve Bahmer's to vote a lot of money. It hasn't
necessarily been championship or bust right now in this current
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point in time, but it might get to that point
next season. And so back to the whole Lob City thing.
You know, they were committed to it until they weren't.
Remember they re signed Blake Griffin to an extension and
proclaimed him a Clipper for life, and then months later
they traded him. So while the Laker or the Clippers
are devoted to Kawhi Leonard and Paul George right now,
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it remains to be seen. Does that mean they're committed
enough to agree to extensions if they get some trade
offer that's too good to pass up at some point
next season? Would they say no? But I would be
very surprised at least in this offseason they start doing
the whole reset button deal.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right, Mark, let me let me leave you with
this here now, seeing how we've seen the playoffs go
so far, right Miami and at it right now, Miami
could send Milwaukee home, depending how the rest of overtime goes.
If I said to you right now, what you've seen
so far in the playoffs, the two teams to beat,
one in the East, one in the West. Who are
your teams to beat? Right? The team he beat in
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the East and the team to beat in that If
you want to say the Knicks, that's fine, But just
the team in the East, the team in the West.
Who are the teams to beat?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yeah, you're really giving me that low hanging fruit because
you're so fan about that Reggie Miller analogy. Right, I'll
give it to you. The Knicks have been playing the
best in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No, yeah, buddy, No, yes, Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Oh but look, they already wrapped up the series they
wanted in five games against the Cleveland Cavaliers, team that
had a player that they wanted to get in Donovan
Mitchell and didn't. And they are a complete team. Yeah,
the Knicks are playing better than the Heat. I'm sorry,
but the Heat could be a distance second. But look,
I know I'm being a little bit facetious here, but
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East West it's all wide open. Been here, there's no
there's no dominant team here, and it's been all a
jumbled mess because of injuries with different teams and because
there isn't a feeling that you know, X team is
just this team that has so much talent that's separated
from everyone else. And so, yeah, the Knicks right now
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we're playing the best in the East. That could very
well change if Boston Milwaukee get their act together, if
Jimmy Buckets continues on this miraculous tear, But as of now,
the next are the best news their conference. In the West.
I think it's all kind of up in the air,
you know, you know, the Suns on paper, I think
have the most talent, but I think it's also a
red flag that you know, they had a really scratching
(28:40):
call just to beat an under man Clippers team. You know,
Lakers Warriors, you have to have a chance for there's
questions about their health. I like how Denver and Sacramento
are playing. But you wonder, you know, to what to what?
At what point will Sacramento's an experience catch up to
them or the Nuggets the real deal in the playoffs.
So it's it's just going to be this wild, jumbled
(29:00):
mess and we should just embrace it, even if the
results in the Knicks hoisting that rare championship trophy at
the end.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh looking, Mark Medina right there, he's on Twitter at
Mark g Underscore Medina. Longtime NBA inside to cover the playoffs. Mark,
as always, buddy, appreciate your time, my friend, have fun.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I appreciate you, and real quick, I'm being serious, be
on the lookout. Got a Knicks calm coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're gonna lose in five stop stop go stop? How
many words ten twelve thousand?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Follow me on Twitter and you'll find out.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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Speaker 1 (29:48):
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Speaker 4 (30:11):
Man? I am about to fall off from all the calls?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
So your fiance knows the entire round now.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
By the way, that's where add comes in handy, because
you've been just talking millions, you know, have a million
conversations at the same time. It's good, good, good, but man,
it's yeah, it's exhausting and and but I told you
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My guys don't smoke screen me, they don't snow me.
The really kind of tell me what they're gonna do. Know,
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It's good so I don't have to go through as
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Speaker 1 (30:44):
If truck builds up, well, but doesn't Howie Long do that.
There's a lot of subterfuge with Howie Long, isn't there.
There's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
How he Long, Well, he's just saying your driver and.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
No no.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Ally and I are open books for each my gag.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right. So hey, so the latest podcast you have up?
You're on Breakaal podcast. Great visit with Joel Clatt. You
cover so many things with it. You have the NFL Draft,
you have Joel Clatt's story. Really Jay phenomenal that this
episode is so good. If you haven't checked it out yet,
check out this episode of Unbreakable.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I appreciate that. Ye, I think Joe's best in business
when comes to college football. Nothing like him and just man,
he's so humble, he's so amazing. So here's our deal.
For years and years and years, Joel and I shiit
a week out, week and a half out. I'll sting
with me. We go over it. Then I start going
into team's war rooms and draft rooms. I'm zooming in
with different teams. Then I come back and Joel, I'm like,
(31:43):
now let's move this guy. Move this guy here, move
that kind of there, and then you know I would
let him, you know, he will sit in the room
with me while I'm talking to these teams. And but
there's so much respect for Joel clad around the League's Yeah,
he's amazing, man, Joel's incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
The fun begins tomorrow by B M J. So you've
been at this. I saw the gun. Well, you got
your nine billion pages of notes, and you're you're ready
to come on and dominate as you do each and
every year. I guess the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, fitter sucks. Like people will get on you on
Twitter for anything I literally put out right the other day,
like my draft notes and all these people like you're
still write with a pen and pad, like that's where
your your tweet it.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, they can't read it, which is part of the
genius of it. Jay, No, Well.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Here's the problem. Though nobody else could read it, but
I can't read it, No problem, man, chicken scratch.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Can you read from the statement? Certain No, I can't,
But you wrote it. Yeah, sorry, I can't. You gotta
ask you another question.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
All right, that's past year over who they're gonna take
and it auto corrected to something else.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, boy, it's.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Auto correct me to something else. And I'm like, look
at him sitting there next to Rob Stone. I'm like, oh,
you're taking But what.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Some random guy they scouted overseas suddenly entered the first round.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It was not a word I was able to repeat
on radio.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Sure, probably a good idea, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
But it's great, yeah the first round. Listen, man, I
don't know where the levis to number one story is
coming from. And that's not happen. It's everybody's been in
love with Bryce Young for a while, not just the Panthers,
but all the teams that were trying to move up
for Bryce Young also. And that's what kind of Houston
screw this up. In my opinion, they screwed up top
the draft. They got a chance to trade up for
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that first pick. That's where your love Bryce Young and
wasn't even close to dream him and everybody else and
why weren't able to get a deal done and Carolina
was able to get up and get the guy they
love also. But you know, I think even if you know,
Chicago ended up flip flopping with Houston, Carolina didn't want
to come up to number two and they would have
taken TJ Stroud and been happy over there. So I
(34:10):
think kind of Houston messed that up and they should
have gotten the dumb because when you get a guy,
you're like, Okay, we have him up there and we're
not convicted of anybody else. We are on him, but
two we have to do it to make that swap.
And I think that kind of messes up to stop
the draft. Well, that's the love Smith's draft.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, that's thanks for nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Long way I talked him. I talked to him today.
Oh yeah, and I was like, I was like, hey,
it's the Lovey Smith Draft. You just started laughing. I said, uh,
you're watching tomorrow? He goes, Nope, love of my life,
traveling and enjoy life.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wown. Wouldn't that statue up in Chicago? So love no.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Doubt not watching the Lovey Smith draft. That's that's kind
of weird, is not watching it. So you know, let's
start there then with with number two because that's the
big question. You have to see brun Stroud or it's
something else. You talk to Joel Plaid about it, Jay,
what are you thinking here?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I don't think they're they know yet, And you know,
I think the owner gets involved here, do we get
a quarterback? We get the quarterback later on. I think
they're trying to move up now for that with that
second one, and that's five for a different quarterback. So
maybe to go d M first and then quarterback later.
So that's where listen, like last year, you guys do
(35:24):
I kind of had the you know, the top ten
peg pretty much, you know, a few hours before the draft,
and I've shown you guys that before that I don't
have that. I won't this year. I won't have a
back this year because I think they're gonna there's a
lot of teams that are going back and forth because
like listen, there's, man like, the most talented guys in
the drafts are guys like Jalen Carter, but man, you
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don't that's there's there's so many question marks on him.
You know, the most talented guys is the running back
to Jay Robinson, and the teams don't think that they're
almost you know, hey, you don't go high for running
back anymore, even though he's not just the running back.
He's different. So you know, it's just you know, and
most of the teams I've talked to, actually every time
(36:10):
I've talked to have only either fourteen, fifteen or sixteen
first round grade on players in this draft. After that
dropped the second round craze and everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
That's amazing. Yeah, number three is also interesting there, Jay,
because Arizona obviously has a lot of needs. They also
have veteran players that want out of town. Yeah, so
how did you and for them all?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Because they could you know, I think they're gonna look
to find they would certainly like to trade out of
that pick. And I think a team like Tennessee, if
the quarterback they want is right there, they can move
up for him. But you know, if they're not, if
they sit there and they got a DM there and
they get an offensive tackle there too, do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You think, Jay, the quarterbacks are gonna are gonna slip?
It seems to be that that genesis going towards the
draft that everybody's still high on Bryce Young and Will Levis,
but maybe on Richardson and Stratt. It's not it's not
as much anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
No, Richardson got a lot of up absolutely, and let's
strout also, like that's he's all talented guy quarterback was
in the draft. But all of sudden, people just started
pushing him down, pushing him down. But you know that's
where again and then sometimes owners come in and go, hey, wait, wait,
this guy is a bet, not missing a you know,
guy was just kind of talent. So but no, people
(37:23):
are split on Levis Richard saying is he's got a
lot of love in this draft, a lot of love.
And then you know, later on in the first round,
I think somebody I don't think they let Hendon Hooker
gett of the first round.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Right, guy's starting to get a lot of love. The
questions of age and coming off the injury and all,
but certainly putting some stuff on tape.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Just overrated when it comes to a quarterback because you
look at best quarterbacks in the league. Orse guys are
all older, right, So it doesn't really matter in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, as long as you get your shot to start
and some continuity speaking, you get.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Years from a guy and he's thirty six, it's it's
very You can get fifteen guys forty like received all.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, and then you play fifteen years and get traded
to the Jets. That seems to be the pattern.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'll be eighteen. Yeah, we got like Matthew Stafford, right,
Matthew Stafford about to retire and he gets traded the
Rams and wins the Super Bowl. So I don't think
it's just you know, with this quarterback position. I think
it's the twenty five years old tongue is way overrated.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, And it's like, as I can get into what
you're saying is Stafford gets traded to the Rams, wins
the Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers traded to the Jets, and
the Jets are going to win the Super Bowl. I'm
excited about that.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I don't know about that. But but here's the thing.
One thing we know about Aaron Rodgers is yeah, he's
gonna use this man. He's like Mark and Jordan where
you'll find things to just get kicked off about. Use
it for his advantage. And Joe Douglass just done a
really good job putt putting a good team around him there,
right with the running back got hurt last year in Presaul,
(38:54):
and then you know, Tarrett Wilson and the defense did
a phenomenal job last year under following Jeff Ulbrick. So
I think, man, yeah, he can put them over the top.
I'm not saying he can. I think he definitely can't.
If he comes in and plays like MVP.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Aaron Rodgers, absolutely the legend broadcasting Hall of Famer Jay
Glazer our guest here Fox NFL Sunday and tomorrow, part
of our draft coverage. Here the anchor of our draft
coverage alongside Steve Kayd, Rob Stone and our guy LeVar Arrington,
getting you all the way through the first round.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
And then by the way, he Steven told me he's
not gonna be with us tomorrow. He's gonna call in
from his burner phone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
D with that. Sure, he just gave our massages a
heart attack. Wait a minute, they just hit the floor.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
It's like, wait, we've been promoting this.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I already told him I'm gonna be wearing him out
about that on the show. So well.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
He's been telling many, many a story of these last
couple of weeks, getting out in the media and getting around.
Do you help coach him up some?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, I haven't had to. Man, he's got a huge personality.
He's gonna be great for us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
He is.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
That's a big personality. He's got me so much stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The number one pick he's traded on Draft Day, you know,
for Hollywood Brown last year is that like, oh, he's
the perfect guy for us tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
He has seen it all, there's no question about it.
Let's go back to b John Robinson. What kind of
range are we looking at? Because I've seen him in
a couple of moncks where oh, we'll get him in
that top ten and then you still got the no,
he's a running back.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I don't see the top ten because he's a running back.
But man, how do you start slipping? These teams are
gonna be like, again, there's only fifteen guys in first
round grades, right, and everybody else to me, oh wait, wait, wait,
there's the last tame at first round grade. So you
know he's I don't see him top ten, But I
think teams are kind of missing the mark on that,
and I know people's it's it's so funny because we've all,
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like you heard everybody say, and all these teams have said, oh,
you know, you don't need to drafts running back to
that high and you know they're not durable and hope
there were second contracts, and I hear that, But we
have a different special guy. You're kind of look at
that a little bit differently. In my opinion, this guy
absolutely elevates your team immediately, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Lastly, Jay wants I want to go back to something
you tweeted about a couple of days ago about the
first round of the draft of how about how you
say that makeup is now way more important than it's
ever been because too many guys come in and want
to be famous instead of being great, right.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Correct, And that's when you just they are all famous
because of social media. So when you come in and
you're like, man, I'm famous for idea, so I'm rich,
I'm famous now, aren't going to put the work in.
So guys you know that, you know, like, look, you
have these guys who who are kind of rare now
who just want to work their butts off to be great.
Like back in the day, the only way to be
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famous is for you to make a Pro Bowl and
that's how you got endorsement deals. Otherwise you didn't really
get them, and that that's changed. So if you get
makeup now, if guys, you know, he's going to come
in and man, this guy wants to compete. This guy
was on a losing like Jay from Boston College, He's
on a losing team and he's man, he had a
chance to take nil deals and go l toy. He's like, Nope,
sticking here.
Speaker 8 (42:04):
And being loyal and he's crying after games and you know,
not not winning these gits. That's type of makeup I want.
Or a guy like Will Anderson who's like man throwing
people off the field if they're not doing their job,
like you know, being prepared enough. Like that's who I want.
I want these guys with guys with that makeup and
they can stick around a lot longer now in they raft.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You'll check them out tomorrow night right here on Fox
Sports Radio NFL on Fox Insider Jay Glazer eight pm
Easterns throughout the first round of the draft, Steve Khime,
LeVar Arrington, Rob Stone, picked by pick, predictions, reactions to
every first round pick.
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Aaron Rodgers is introduced for the first time as a
jet He talks about the Super Bowl. The Nicks eliminate
the Cavaliers in five and they look like one of
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the top three teams in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I've got a night like this, Mike, since Syracuse won
it all in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, the last forty eight hours, I mean seventy two hours,
go back to Monday. I mean, it's just been your world.
The Knicks cruising along and vanquishing the cavaliers. And you
heard the call there. Honk your horns, you know, climb poles,
get on top of cards, whatever you're in cars, You're
gonna whatever you're gonna do. Take over seventh again. But
(01:33):
huge stuff. Aaron Rodgers comes, He's all smiles and and
meets the crowd. Draft is tomorrow, all of these beautiful
things coming together for you. Now, you just need to
get one inning out of Justin Verlander and your years complete.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's let you know, let's let's walk before we can run.
Just one, but let's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Walk on one pitching. Ceremonial first pitch. How about that?
A ceremonial first pitch of an ex home stand.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But yes, the Knicks are onto the second round of
the playoffs for the third time this century. That doesn't
it doesn't sound doesn't sound very impressed.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So if people forget what it is like they do
when they go to write a check in January. If
they do that, then it works.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But I you know, listen, there's two big basketball stories
we're going to talk about then over the next few minutes.
The both I'm gonna say. I hate to say I
told you so, but I told you the Knicks were good,
and all season long it was nuh they're winning a
couple of games here, and then I told you the
Knicks were good. I told you Jalen Brunson was going
(02:40):
to be the difference maker on the team. I told
you this. I told you having Brunson to take the
pressure off of Julius Randall's gonna be great things with
Julius Randall. I told you how deep the Knicks are,
that Emmanuel Quickly or Obi Toppin can come off the
bench with huge games. They are deep. They are good.
And watch out and look at the Knicks proving how
(03:03):
absolutely irrelevant the regular season is by knocking off the Cavaliers,
who won fifty one games in five and they made
it look easy. Look outside of Darius Garland superhuman game
to give them the win. Earlier this series, the Knicks
defense did nothing but shut the Cavaliers offense down in
a large way. Right, the Knicks looks it's just like
(03:26):
the Jets. People don't want to admit the Jets have
it all. They got rogers, they got a running game,
they got wide receivers, they got a defense. People don't
want to admit the Knicks have it all. They have
an offense, they have a bench, they have a defense. Uh,
people don't. But you gotta get to it because look
at the Knicks. Look at the Knicks. Look how good
they are. They have arrived. They have arrived. And now
if you said, hey, who's getting out of the East
(03:49):
to go to the NBA Finals, The Knicks are in
that conversation, Greg, They're only gonna be four teams left
and they be in the top. But if you're talking about, boy,
the Celtics, they look a little vulnerable. Oh, the Bucks
could wind up going home. The Sixers are okay, but
they beat the Nets. Boy, look at the Knicks, man,
look at the Knicks. And I know the heat one,
but let's ignore them for a second. But if you
(04:09):
look at the Knicks, man, I'm telling I've been telling
you all year long. It's a big party tonight with
the Knicks winning. Knicks fans they're gonna turn the city over.
I mean, it's you're gonna wake up tomorrow. It's gonna
look like I am legend. It's like, look at all
the tumbleweeds and all the destruction and a mean, it's
like there's a huge Fourth of July and New Year's
Eve party all going on in New York.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Knicks Nicks, Knicks nick Well, general rules apply. You don't
want to finish too soon. But when we talk with
your celebrations, right, with your celebrations, you still have a
lot of work to do. This is a great milestone
and you can hear it in the column. Wow, this
is just so great. It's like, no, no, no, that's part one.
I mean, this is you don't you don't even need
a trilogy. You need to keep going. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I've had no parts before.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But you need to write the rest of the sequels.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
This is JK. Rowle going back to the drawing board
for book four. Yes, and I know she's not a
popular figure right now, but we had to write part
four of Hogwarts before we could get down to the
dramatic conclusion of everything. All about progressions. You want Tolkien
do Tolkien whatever's gonna make you feel better about yourself.
But we look at your Nicks, right. The Celtics entered
(05:21):
in with a lot of questions. Great roster, but do
Brown and Tatum get along? What's Marcus smart all about?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The coaching change, all of those things? And here they are,
and there are some cracks. We're watching the Bucks now
as Jimmy Buckets and company try to take them out.
Giannis didn't give it at the old College triw We
have no idea how injured he is and all of
this process. But we're at that point in a series
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where there's a lot of hand ringing going on. The Sixers.
Nobody trusts the Sixers as well as they played in
that first round. Why because Joel Embiid has not hurt again.
And you keep waiting for James Harden to turn into
the proverbial pumpkin or it'll start looking like a pumpkin,
whichever is gonna happen, because that's happened in the past too.
So all of that leads to your Nicks, and it
(06:16):
was could they battle through what is always the April
doldrums of a Tom Thibodeau squad. I get to April
and then play through it without massive repercussions. And right
now they're playing great basketball. Led to ten, led by
ten at the break, twelve after three, and finish the job.
(06:39):
Fantastic work all around. Jalen Bronson, we talked about him
for months and now he's the most popular man in
NBA land.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Look at the Knicks. Look at that. I'm like a
proud parrot. Look at the Knicks, Look at the look.
I don't know what's better seeing Aaron Rodgers actually on
stage talking about the Jets and the super Bowl or
watching the Knicks completely dismantled the Cavalty.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Because the other thing here is the highlights are rolling.
And for those that missed the game, Julius Randall only
played sixteen minutes yep. Was in street clothes and looked
really uncomfortable. So something to watch going forward. But you
got great contributions twenty one from Barrett seven to thirteen.
An efficient game from Barrick. We've had a lot of
eighteen to twenty three point games from him, but the
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shooting percentage is off. No, here he was efficient. You
got twenty three from the aforementioned Brunson, Robinson and Randall,
both with thirteen and then you got nineteen from your
guy quickly off the bench. The Knicks his name was Quickly.
They did it quickly too.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They play good defense. They look. Thibodeau figured out the
rotation very early in the season when he said, ah,
you know what, Evan Fournier plays too much. Yeah, Derreck
Rose plays too much. Those guys stopped playing, and that's
when the Knicks took off. He figured things out. You
could say what you want about Tom Thibodeau and everything,
but he figured things out. Yeah, he buried the those
(08:00):
guys on the betchel Derrek Rose played the other night
for the first time since the beginning of January. Hey,
Derek Rose is on the floor. Well, but that buddy
figured it out. Man, the Knicks. Ignore the Knicks at
your own peril, Mike Harmon, ignore the next of your
own peril.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well to wrap arms around him in Monsey's here, so
she's gonna have to wear it all night for this
one with the Clippers going home is. One of the
criticisms of Tylo was that he was stubborn and wouldn't
adjust his rotations and minutes, and that he was still
playing guys that clearly were ineffective, but damn it, he
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was going to push his way through with his guys.
Whereas Thibodeau, for all of the reputation, for all of
the history and the fact that Derek Rose is his guy,
he realized it. Whether it was the fans and a
big letter writing campaign, he acknowledged it. So then, like Shawshank,
they wrote to a day to really put it over
(08:55):
the top. And he finally got him out of the rotation,
recognizing that that wasn't helping the situation, wasn't helping to
push things that Brunson had built and they got better.
He learned, there you go teaching the old dog new tricks.
Because now the Knicks have advanced to the next round
of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey, let's see how that hurt. How that sounded. Let's
hear then, and if you play the butt fumble, tyshert,
we really are going to fight. You may go home.
You may go home with less fingers than you came
to work with. Just say, wow, are you the Knicks
final call? This doesn't I don't think tyshe I have
known you since the Knicks actually won a round of
(09:36):
the playoffs. Can you shuffle checks with your left hand.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yes, here's my question, Jason, number one, are you going
to drive in to do that?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
In two?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
How many fingers do I have?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You have ten? Do you think so maybe you go
home with eight?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Have you ever really counted his fingers?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I mean it would explain a lot if he only had,
like I mean, he may.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Be alfon Seko over there, the Princess Bride with That's right,
there we go. We got the Princess Bride and Antonio
Alfonseka into the first segment.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
How did it sound the Knicks moving on to the
next round? See what I did? I did the rhyme, right,
I did the whole I did the whole.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Phasict right there, nicely done.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's hear the call with.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The thirty nines pick in the twenty thirteen NFL draft
the New York Jets the legs Gino Smith June, Julie,
let's get up.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
That's my fault. I didn't say don't play the Gino Smith. Yeah,
I just said not the button.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, but before we do, Clayton, do you hear the
Knicks sound?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I always participated for the last however many years a
mock draft down in Jacksonville, where I do the Chargers
pick and right before me was Softy, so I had
to come on after him, which man, I started talking
like I had caffeine running through my veins, talking really
fast and really loudly. It's like you're trying to match SOFTI.
(10:54):
He's like, Yeah, that's my guy. And if I don't
match the energy, because I know he's still listening, he'll
curse me out the next time I talked to him.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
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Knicks moving on to the second round for the first
titsan How old are youre? In twenty thirteen? Where were
(11:24):
you eleven?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Twenty thirteen? So I graduated in twenty Let me see
twenty two a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Easier for you than that. It should carry the one.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Don't forget to carry the one? Yeah, shive me a
lot of Do I mind this one for COVID year
or does it just stay the same?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Oh my god, play the highlight, Play the highlight. Three
seconds two one. Donovan Mitchell home all people shribles it out.
It's over for the first time in a decade.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The Knicks. You're moving on to the second round, the.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Final scoring game five the Knicks one oh six the
Cavaliers ninety five. Knicks fans, you've waited a long time. Celebrate,
hount your horns. It's happening. Nix, You're moving on in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Laugh to support his guy, But I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I will tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You want a bond villain.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You want to you want a big bold prediction. This
is the This will be the best easiest bull prediction ever.
You wait and see what kind of videos Nicks fix
wind up getting up on the internet in the next
twenty four hours. You just wait and see. You want videos,
I'll show you videos. You'll stop looking at cat videos,
You'll stop looking at TikTok, You'll stop looking at everything.
(12:34):
He oh, I don't want this? Do I want this? No?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, wait? Wait do you see the videos Knicks fans
put up in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's all I need And you don't stop.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Nicks, Knicks, Nicks, Nicks, Knicksnicks. I told you our stat
I told you now. Nobody will take the Knicks lightly.
Knicks may be the favorites now to make it to
the end, Right now, this moment in time, the Knicks
may be the favorites to make it to the NBA
Finals in the East. Who's a favorite over them? Everybody
else is still playing And no, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna say the Sixers. No, not happening. So yeah,
(13:06):
the Knicks may be the favorite just because you.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Hate Philadelphia Nicks Nicks, because you've been doing that bad accent.
And nobody brought us a HOGI canti what.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
He's doing here right, No one's talking about us now
because we have having his team.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, he can nixt to the curb. Last night, when
Darreon Rodgers signed with the Jets, enticer, do we have
that alcohol, the Knicks mattered.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I went with it, But now tonight they do
and now everything matters, you guys.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not even the Knicks mattered, not even the mis matter.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You just want to take away from the greatest day
of my life.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, the Mets.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think day. I don't have any time for
the Mets to night because the Knight's about the Knicks
and Aaron Rocket the first.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Time they've lost four in a row in the box
Shoulder era.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No time and yeah, and the last two have been
to the Bleeping Nationals. But no stops, SAP, SAPs match
Knicks Nicks, Knicks Nicks, not even.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
The Knicks mattered.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
My goodness, I need a thirty for thirty on the
last six seconds of the Bucks in the Heat woo,
let me just tell you what happened before we get
to our guests, because this is absolute insanity and Jimmy
Butler has turned into Michael Jordan. We are headed to overtime.
With six seconds left, the Heat were down by a point.
(14:29):
The Bucks were trying to get the ball up court
and a really ridiculously bad foul was called on Kyle Lowry.
The ball went bouncing out of bounds. Lowry tried to
get it. There was no foul. Kyle Lowry's going after
the ball and with the whistle blowing, the ball goes
out of bounds. The officials went back and reviewed it
no foul on Lowry. But because nobody had the basketball,
(14:53):
they run a jump ball from center court. I mean,
and Lowry clearly would have gotten the ball had they
not blown the whistle. He stopped the play because the
whistle blew, and then they went back said no foul,
and so I the jump ball from half court. So
the Heat gets screwed. Jannis nearly throws the ball out
of bounds off of the jump because the Bucks win it,
(15:13):
Middleton saves it by knocking out a camera guy a
running to keep the ball in bounds. The Bucks make
one of their free throws after the Heat foul with
two seconds left to go. So now the Heater are
down two. With just over two seconds left to go,
they run an alley you play for Jimmy Butler and
(15:34):
Jimmy Butler gets away with a pushoff, catches the ball
while falling down one hand. He chucks it up from
right around the a little bit inside of the elbow, swish.
Overtime one eighteen one eighteen oh My joining us now
(15:55):
on the hotline. Jimmy longtime NBA insider. Check him out
on Twitter at ge Underscore Medina it's Mark Medina. Mark.
I don't know, man, I'm so excited about the Knicks tonight.
But those last six seconds of this Bucks heat game,
who is that something?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yeah, Jimmy Buckets, Jimmy Butler reminded me of the bubble,
And you know what, in pertaining to the playoffs, these
first round heroics kind of remind me, you know, with
how he ignites the fan base and you know, really
rips the heart out of a visiting team. Kind of
reminds me of ninety five when Reggie Miller had eight
points in eight seconds or something. I don't know which
(16:33):
one was worse.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was eight points and six seconds. Okay, do we
need to do we need you know what on a
night where this is my night, where the Knicks proved
one of the top sixsmart in the NBA. You know what, No,
you don't get to get away with that. I need
two great things about the Knicks from you right now
before you wanted this interview. Two great things about the Knicks.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Go well, I mean, look, they beat the Calves four
to one in the first round. So that's compliment number one.
Number two, Jalen Brunson, he deserves the max and maybe
another contract here, So that's compliment number two. Anything else, No.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's pretty good. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Okay with that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm all right with that. I'm alright with that. Mark
Medina with us here Fox Sports Radio. All right, So
while we watch overtime unfold with with with Miami Milwaukee,
just really quick on Jimmy Buckets, because every year in
the playoffs he's able to ascend and become a guy
that looks like like dominating games like Kobe Bryant would
dominate games. And yet during the regular season we plays
(17:31):
he's a nice twenty point a game guy, you know,
I mean, I don't know if I don't know if
if we should treat him as hey, look at how
he elevates in the playoffs are Hey, dude, you could
do a little bit more in the regular season.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Well, hey, you know, I'm with you on Jimmy as
far as his playoffs are concerned. I think with the
regular season, it's not so much that he's sandbagging it
or anything like that. He was out for a lot
of the season, and it wasn't because of load management.
It was the opposite that he had actual substantial injuries.
And so I think it comes to show that you know,
once he's healthy, you know, there's really no stopping Jimmy Butler.
(18:06):
I mean, he had a really good postseason last year,
and there is kind of that what if, you know,
he's playing through a grinded out series against Boston seven games,
he misses that three, but it's one of those things
that the heat rode with them and they know, you
know what, we're going to take the good and the
bad because his competitive spirit usually yields wins. And what
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he's shown in the first round against Milwaukee again brings
a lot of parallels to that finals run in the
Bubble where the Lakers they clearly had a lot more depth.
You know, Lebron James, Anthony Davis are were dominanting that series.
But there are times, especially in that Game three, where
he just poured everything out there on the court to
(18:50):
carry his team to win. And you know, I think
fans appreciate that wind. You know, not only are they
doing something spectacular, but they're really exhaust in everything they
have to try to make that happen.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Speak of exhausting, and you bring up the Lakers. Lebron
James had no legs left and the jump shots were
today as they dropped his game to the grizz Jason
had theorized that it might have been best to claim
they'd you know, gotten I don't know, sick for some
bad poy or something, or claimed injury and missed this one,
(19:24):
readying for a game six. They fought back in the third,
but ultimately not enough. But thirty seven minutes, that really
kind of stands out when you look at the box score.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, look, the Grizzlies are
a good team. They have the best home record in
the NBA, So I think that there was thirling expectation
that the Grizzlies would be a much better team. But yeah,
it didn't help that Lebron James was a shall of himself.
Fifteen points, five to seven team from the field, one
to nine from deep, and the thirty seven minutes. What's
interesting is that might seem high for a regular season game,
(19:56):
you know, in his twentieth season, thirty eight years old,
but that's you know, kind of part for the course
for a playoff game. But I know that, you know,
coming off that overtime win against Memphis in Game four,
he had forty five minutes. He had a career high
in rebounds twenty afterwards, he was admitting that he felt
exhausted there. And even if he is doing quote unquote
(20:16):
all the right things of taking care of his body,
you can connect the dots. A very short turnaround, two
days in between games, you know, across country flight, very
little recovery time. I think you are seeing those early
signs of the fatigue wearing on him, and I think
the challenge moving forward is that they have a quick
turnaround time for Friday's game six, as well as because
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of the fact that they had a missed opportunity here
without closing out. If they are to advance to the
next round, you know, they could play the Warriors, or
the play the Warriors or the Kings as early as Sunday,
So there's going to be very little recovery time there,
and you just wonder to what extent can those small
things eventually add up to something big and playoffs a
(21:00):
lot of times attrition winds up becoming accumulative effect as
well as health and us knowing that of all the
things that can determine whether the Lakers win a title
or not, the biggest thing is how healthy can Lebron
James Be. You can't help but wonder if this is
a red flag?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Could they have done that? Mark? Could they have said
come up because I said after Monday, okay, they're up
three to one. It's an incredibly quick turnaround, right, you
talk about a late game on Monday night and early
game on Wednesday. The Lakers could say, hey, Ad and
Lebron are dealing with injuries, they're questionable for Wednesday. They
don't even make the trip and they get three and
(21:38):
a half days off and then they're ready for Game
six on Friday. And then if they have a quick
turnaround to play Sunday, okay, at least they've had the
three and a half days off before. Could they do that?
Because the way teams get hurt nowadays and stars get hurt,
I can't believe we're far away from anybody, any team
pulling that in the series they're up three to nothing,
or they want to get guys extra restaurant.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Well, look, the Lakers aren't the Clippers, so they're not
going to do that. Number one, you know, hanging fruit
and fairness. You know, I'll get into the Clippers, But
to answer your question with the Lakers, they're not going
to do that because he's not having an injury, he's
just you know, it's fatigue and you just want to
maintain things. And I think that when you try to
(22:18):
play the long game in a playoffs series, it could
wind up blowing up in your face because so many
things can change from game to game. You have to
try to do whatever you can in front of you.
So I think if there was something that he was
dealing with where you know, it's it's clearly an injury
as opposed to something that he's just hurting or he's tired,
(22:41):
they would have set him out. But here, even less
than one hundred percent, Lebron James is going to help
them win games. And I think in fairness to the
Lakers and to him, you know, it wasn't just him.
I mean Austin Reeves and D'Angel Russell didn't make shots
and so that didn't help the cause. In fairness, the Clippers,
Kawhi Leonard was actually hurt during the playoffs. I understand
(23:03):
the frustration of him being in out of the lineup
during the regular season, but look, he's had an extense
of injury history, and whether you agree with it or not,
the Clippers felt Hey, you got to be cautious with that,
But I couldn't help but throw that out there because
you're just dangling that low hanging frough in front of him.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, sometimes you just have to grab it, would Gowhi Leonard.
There certainly a lot of hot take nonsense about his
status and anything else. Always questions about his injuries, and
some will dismiss them as illegitimate given pass fights with
training staffs and what have you. But the Clippers are done,
they're going to get some free up, some cap. You
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saw that Russell Westbrook at is three for eighteen, so
that went back to from whence it came. So they're
just stuck. It would seem at least short term, with
a new stadium on the horizon and a lot of
dollars committed to Kawhi and Paul George, even though a
hard reset button the dump button in our studio might
(24:01):
be more in order.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, look, the Clippers haven't hesitated from using that dump button.
You know, they blew up lob City once it was
clear that that was hit in the wrong direction, and
so that could very well happen here. But in this
present point in time, you know, I reported earlier today
that the Clippers remained committed to Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
They have two years left on their contract last year
(24:25):
on those deals or player options. But I think they're
looking at through this lens guys. These guys are still
in their prime early thirties. It's not like you're talking
about mid to late thirties. And I think that even
though the extensive injury at history is what it is,
it's documented, you can't refute it. They very much thinks
(24:45):
it's mostly circumstantial. Why I say this is Paul George's
latest injury with his right knee, lu Dort crashes into him.
This wasn't a thing of Oh, they tried to be
very cautious and it wasn't worth it. He had a
freak injury on the court with Kawhi a little bit different.
But they're also mindful that they've been trying to be
(25:06):
very proactive with managing that quad injury that they gets
back to his final year in San Antonio, as well
as the ACL injury. And while they are adamant that
this maniscus tear wasn't directly correlated to the ACL tear
that he had that required surgery, made a miss all
the twenty twenty one season. They were mindful that this
(25:28):
year was the first full season after missing all of
last season from that injury, and usually it takes time
to build a rhythm. In the second season, most players
are a lot better, so they're envisioning a full recovery
with that. But the reality is this, these last four years,
they've never been able to get all four all two
(25:49):
of those guys healthy at the same time. Clearly that
championship aspirations they haven't fulfilled that. But I think that
they feel that there still is a championship window that
they can climate through, not even just next season, but
the next few years. But the reality is this guy,
Steve Bahmer's to vote a lot of money. It hasn't
necessarily been championship or bust right now in this current
(26:11):
point in time, but it might get to that point
next season. And so back to the whole Lob City thing.
You know, they were committed to it until they weren't.
Remember they re signed Blake Griffin to an extension and
proclaimed him a Clipper for life, and then months later
they traded him. So while the Laker or the Clippers
are devoted to Kawhi Leonard and Paul George right now,
(26:34):
it remains to be seen. Does that mean they're committed
enough to agree to extensions if they get some trade
offer that's too good to pass up at some point
next season? Would they say no? But I would be
very surprised at least in this offseason they start doing
the whole reset button deal.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right, Mark, let me let me leave you with
this here now, seeing how we've seen the playoffs go
so far, right Miami and at it right now, Miami
could send Milwaukee home, depending how the rest of overtime goes.
If I said to you right now, what you've seen
so far in the playoffs, the two teams to beat,
one in the East, one in the West. Who are
your teams to beat? Right? The team he beat in
(27:15):
the East and the team to beat in that If
you want to say the Knicks, that's fine, But just
the team in the East, the team in the West.
Who are the teams to beat?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yeah, you're really giving me that low hanging fruit because
you're so fan about that Reggie Miller analogy. Right, I'll
give it to you. The Knicks have been playing the
best in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No, yeah, buddy, No, yes, Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Oh but look, they already wrapped up the series they
wanted in five games against the Cleveland Cavaliers, team that
had a player that they wanted to get in Donovan
Mitchell and didn't. And they are a complete team. Yeah,
the Knicks are playing better than the Heat. I'm sorry,
but the Heat could be a distance second. But look,
I know I'm being a little bit facetious here, but
(27:57):
East West it's all wide open. Been here, there's no
there's no dominant team here, and it's been all a
jumbled mess because of injuries with different teams and because
there isn't a feeling that you know, X team is
just this team that has so much talent that's separated
from everyone else. And so, yeah, the Knicks right now
(28:18):
we're playing the best in the East. That could very
well change if Boston Milwaukee get their act together, if
Jimmy Buckets continues on this miraculous tear, But as of now,
the next are the best news their conference. In the West.
I think it's all kind of up in the air,
you know, you know, the Suns on paper, I think
have the most talent, but I think it's also a
red flag that you know, they had a really scratching
(28:40):
call just to beat an under man Clippers team. You know,
Lakers Warriors, you have to have a chance for there's
questions about their health. I like how Denver and Sacramento
are playing. But you wonder, you know, to what to what?
At what point will Sacramento's an experience catch up to
them or the Nuggets the real deal in the playoffs.
So it's it's just going to be this wild, jumbled
(29:00):
mess and we should just embrace it, even if the
results in the Knicks hoisting that rare championship trophy at
the end.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh looking, Mark Medina right there, he's on Twitter at
Mark g Underscore Medina. Longtime NBA inside to cover the playoffs. Mark,
as always, buddy, appreciate your time, my friend, have fun.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I appreciate you, and real quick, I'm being serious, be
on the lookout. Got a Knicks calm coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're gonna lose in five stop stop go stop? How
many words ten twelve thousand?
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Follow me on Twitter and you'll find out.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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There's a lot of subterfuge with Howie Long, isn't there.
There's a lot of that going on.
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How he Long, Well, he's just saying your driver and.
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right. So hey, so the latest podcast you have up?
You're on Breakaal podcast. Great visit with Joel Clatt. You
cover so many things with it. You have the NFL Draft,
you have Joel Clatt's story. Really Jay phenomenal that this
episode is so good. If you haven't checked it out yet,
check out this episode of Unbreakable.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I appreciate that. Ye, I think Joe's best in business
when comes to college football. Nothing like him and just man,
he's so humble, he's so amazing. So here's our deal.
For years and years and years, Joel and I shiit
a week out, week and a half out. I'll sting
with me. We go over it. Then I start going
into team's war rooms and draft rooms. I'm zooming in
with different teams. Then I come back and Joel, I'm like,
(31:43):
now let's move this guy. Move this guy here, move
that kind of there, and then you know I would
let him, you know, he will sit in the room
with me while I'm talking to these teams. And but
there's so much respect for Joel clad around the League's Yeah,
he's amazing, man, Joel's incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
The fun begins tomorrow by B M J. So you've
been at this. I saw the gun. Well, you got
your nine billion pages of notes, and you're you're ready
to come on and dominate as you do each and
every year. I guess the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, fitter sucks. Like people will get on you on
Twitter for anything I literally put out right the other day,
like my draft notes and all these people like you're
still write with a pen and pad, like that's where
your your tweet it.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, they can't read it, which is part of the
genius of it. Jay, No, Well.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Here's the problem. Though nobody else could read it, but
I can't read it, No problem, man, chicken scratch.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Can you read from the statement? Certain No, I can't,
But you wrote it. Yeah, sorry, I can't. You gotta
ask you another question.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
All right, that's past year over who they're gonna take
and it auto corrected to something else.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, boy, it's.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Auto correct me to something else. And I'm like, look
at him sitting there next to Rob Stone. I'm like, oh,
you're taking But what.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Some random guy they scouted overseas suddenly entered the first round.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It was not a word I was able to repeat
on radio.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Sure, probably a good idea, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
But it's great, yeah the first round. Listen, man, I
don't know where the levis to number one story is
coming from. And that's not happen. It's everybody's been in
love with Bryce Young for a while, not just the Panthers,
but all the teams that were trying to move up
for Bryce Young also. And that's what kind of Houston
screw this up. In my opinion, they screwed up top
the draft. They got a chance to trade up for
(33:48):
that first pick. That's where your love Bryce Young and
wasn't even close to dream him and everybody else and
why weren't able to get a deal done and Carolina
was able to get up and get the guy they
love also. But you know, I think even if you know,
Chicago ended up flip flopping with Houston, Carolina didn't want
to come up to number two and they would have
taken TJ Stroud and been happy over there. So I
(34:10):
think kind of Houston messed that up and they should
have gotten the dumb because when you get a guy,
you're like, Okay, we have him up there and we're
not convicted of anybody else. We are on him, but
two we have to do it to make that swap.
And I think that kind of messes up to stop
the draft. Well, that's the love Smith's draft.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, that's thanks for nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Long way I talked him. I talked to him today.
Oh yeah, and I was like, I was like, hey,
it's the Lovey Smith Draft. You just started laughing. I said, uh,
you're watching tomorrow? He goes, Nope, love of my life,
traveling and enjoy life.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wown. Wouldn't that statue up in Chicago? So love no.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Doubt not watching the Lovey Smith draft. That's that's kind
of weird, is not watching it. So you know, let's
start there then with with number two because that's the
big question. You have to see brun Stroud or it's
something else. You talk to Joel Plaid about it, Jay,
what are you thinking here?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I don't think they're they know yet, And you know,
I think the owner gets involved here, do we get
a quarterback? We get the quarterback later on. I think
they're trying to move up now for that with that
second one, and that's five for a different quarterback. So
maybe to go d M first and then quarterback later.
So that's where listen, like last year, you guys do
(35:24):
I kind of had the you know, the top ten
peg pretty much, you know, a few hours before the draft,
and I've shown you guys that before that I don't
have that. I won't this year. I won't have a
back this year because I think they're gonna there's a
lot of teams that are going back and forth because
like listen, there's, man like, the most talented guys in
the drafts are guys like Jalen Carter, but man, you
(35:47):
don't that's there's there's so many question marks on him.
You know, the most talented guys is the running back
to Jay Robinson, and the teams don't think that they're
almost you know, hey, you don't go high for running
back anymore, even though he's not just the running back.
He's different. So you know, it's just you know, and
most of the teams I've talked to, actually every time
(36:10):
I've talked to have only either fourteen, fifteen or sixteen
first round grade on players in this draft. After that
dropped the second round craze and everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
That's amazing. Yeah, number three is also interesting there, Jay,
because Arizona obviously has a lot of needs. They also
have veteran players that want out of town. Yeah, so
how did you and for them all?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Because they could you know, I think they're gonna look
to find they would certainly like to trade out of
that pick. And I think a team like Tennessee, if
the quarterback they want is right there, they can move
up for him. But you know, if they're not, if
they sit there and they got a DM there and
they get an offensive tackle there too, do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You think, Jay, the quarterbacks are gonna are gonna slip?
It seems to be that that genesis going towards the
draft that everybody's still high on Bryce Young and Will Levis,
but maybe on Richardson and Stratt. It's not it's not
as much anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
No, Richardson got a lot of up absolutely, and let's
strout also, like that's he's all talented guy quarterback was
in the draft. But all of sudden, people just started
pushing him down, pushing him down. But you know that's
where again and then sometimes owners come in and go, hey, wait, wait,
this guy is a bet, not missing a you know,
guy was just kind of talent. So but no, people
(37:23):
are split on Levis Richard saying is he's got a
lot of love in this draft, a lot of love.
And then you know, later on in the first round,
I think somebody I don't think they let Hendon Hooker
gett of the first round.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Right, guy's starting to get a lot of love. The
questions of age and coming off the injury and all,
but certainly putting some stuff on tape.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Just overrated when it comes to a quarterback because you
look at best quarterbacks in the league. Orse guys are
all older, right, So it doesn't really matter in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, as long as you get your shot to start
and some continuity speaking, you get.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Years from a guy and he's thirty six, it's it's
very You can get fifteen guys forty like received all.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, and then you play fifteen years and get traded
to the Jets. That seems to be the pattern.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'll be eighteen. Yeah, we got like Matthew Stafford, right,
Matthew Stafford about to retire and he gets traded the
Rams and wins the Super Bowl. So I don't think
it's just you know, with this quarterback position. I think
it's the twenty five years old tongue is way overrated.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, And it's like, as I can get into what
you're saying is Stafford gets traded to the Rams, wins
the Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers traded to the Jets, and
the Jets are going to win the Super Bowl. I'm
excited about that.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I don't know about that. But but here's the thing.
One thing we know about Aaron Rodgers is yeah, he's
gonna use this man. He's like Mark and Jordan where
you'll find things to just get kicked off about. Use
it for his advantage. And Joe Douglass just done a
really good job putt putting a good team around him there,
right with the running back got hurt last year in Presaul,
(38:54):
and then you know, Tarrett Wilson and the defense did
a phenomenal job last year under following Jeff Ulbrick. So
I think, man, yeah, he can put them over the top.
I'm not saying he can. I think he definitely can't.
If he comes in and plays like MVP.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Aaron Rodgers, absolutely the legend broadcasting Hall of Famer Jay
Glazer our guest here Fox NFL Sunday and tomorrow, part
of our draft coverage. Here the anchor of our draft
coverage alongside Steve Kayd, Rob Stone and our guy LeVar Arrington,
getting you all the way through the first round.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
And then by the way, he Steven told me he's
not gonna be with us tomorrow. He's gonna call in
from his burner phone.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
D with that. Sure, he just gave our massages a
heart attack. Wait a minute, they just hit the floor.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
It's like, wait, we've been promoting this.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I already told him I'm gonna be wearing him out
about that on the show. So well.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
He's been telling many, many a story of these last
couple of weeks, getting out in the media and getting around.
Do you help coach him up some?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, I haven't had to. Man, he's got a huge personality.
He's gonna be great for us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
He is.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
That's a big personality. He's got me so much stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The number one pick he's traded on Draft Day, you know,
for Hollywood Brown last year is that like, oh, he's
the perfect guy for us tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
He has seen it all, there's no question about it.
Let's go back to b John Robinson. What kind of
range are we looking at? Because I've seen him in
a couple of moncks where oh, we'll get him in
that top ten and then you still got the no,
he's a running back.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I don't see the top ten because he's a running back.
But man, how do you start slipping? These teams are
gonna be like, again, there's only fifteen guys in first
round grades, right, and everybody else to me, oh wait, wait, wait,
there's the last tame at first round grade. So you
know he's I don't see him top ten, But I
think teams are kind of missing the mark on that,
and I know people's it's it's so funny because we've all,
(40:46):
like you heard everybody say, and all these teams have said, oh,
you know, you don't need to drafts running back to
that high and you know they're not durable and hope
there were second contracts, and I hear that, But we
have a different special guy. You're kind of look at
that a little bit differently. In my opinion, this guy
absolutely elevates your team immediately, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Lastly, Jay wants I want to go back to something
you tweeted about a couple of days ago about the
first round of the draft of how about how you
say that makeup is now way more important than it's
ever been because too many guys come in and want
to be famous instead of being great, right.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Correct, And that's when you just they are all famous
because of social media. So when you come in and
you're like, man, I'm famous for idea, so I'm rich,
I'm famous now, aren't going to put the work in.
So guys you know that, you know, like, look, you
have these guys who who are kind of rare now
who just want to work their butts off to be great.
Like back in the day, the only way to be
(41:44):
famous is for you to make a Pro Bowl and
that's how you got endorsement deals. Otherwise you didn't really
get them, and that that's changed. So if you get
makeup now, if guys, you know, he's going to come
in and man, this guy wants to compete. This guy
was on a losing like Jay from Boston College, He's
on a losing team and he's man, he had a
chance to take nil deals and go l toy. He's like, Nope,
sticking here.
Speaker 8 (42:04):
And being loyal and he's crying after games and you know,
not not winning these gits. That's type of makeup I want.
Or a guy like Will Anderson who's like man throwing
people off the field if they're not doing their job,
like you know, being prepared enough. Like that's who I want.
I want these guys with guys with that makeup and
they can stick around a lot longer now in they raft.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You'll check them out tomorrow night right here on Fox
Sports Radio NFL on Fox Insider Jay Glazer eight pm
Easterns throughout the first round of the draft, Steve Khime,
LeVar Arrington, Rob Stone, picked by pick, predictions, reactions to
every first round pick.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
J B.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Good, and our producer will have a stick of ginger
for you tomorrow, just like our normal.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Baby tradition, unlike any other. We'll see you tomorrow, Jay,
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