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Jason and Mike give out their Draft Bold Predictions and get you all set for the NFLs big night. 

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:51):
it's the night before the NFL Draft, and yes, Kings
and Oilers going to overtime.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's an amazing game so far. But I'm looking around.
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Draft Day is not on anywhere? How is Draft Day
not on? It's the night before the NFL Draft. Draft
Day should be on every day, like the two weeks
leading up to the NFL Draft, and all day the
day of the draft shoul like when they when what's it?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
When? When? What? What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
TBS would run a Christmas story twenty four hours a
day on Christmas Day, right like this should be like
Draft Day should run on a loop on a channel
from very early all the way through to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I could see im practical jokers exactly that.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Is running it like it's true TV.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
It's a fair point, you know what. I'm gonna seek
it out right now.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I meant that as my second screen experience along with
this overtime period, could you cause you.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Know, there's there's there's so many things like with this
movie that you know, we asked questions about the draft
picks that they're taking, and so many crazy things. You know,
would you trade the three draft picks? What's the equivalent
of trading away all the you know? Then I think
about something like, oh, hey, Brian Drew trash the GM's office.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Like he's still the quarterback. I'm gonna go to your
an emotional guy.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm gonna trash your office and I'm gonna stay the
quarterback of the team. Yes, celebrate.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I mean, there's so.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Many things with this and and uh and and how like, Okay,
it's the day of the draft, and I understand you're
building trauma, but you could spread your dad's ashes any
other day.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It doesn't need to be done now.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I would tell, hey, Ellen Burson, you just go sit,
sit your ass back in there with the ashes, and
we'll bring him out there when we need to.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
It doesn't need to be today. I'm we're drafting number
one overall now, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And I made a big trade, but we're gonna trade
back and all these different things. But I need time
to do other things. Why does it have to be today?
Like just it has to be today? It's like, no,
it doesn't have to be.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
But it's the other thing, just from the storytelling side
of it, how come we didn't get some flashback of
a young Kevin Costner getting berated.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
By his old man, showing where that.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Divide was with the angst that is so clearly demonstrated.
I did just technology shot.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I found it.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I would like that, but I don't think the
technology was Oh D Costs, Yeah, I don't like now
the younger Costner eight seven seven. Zach Effron would have
played the younger like that, he's getting to it, like
I have. I've had him as the younger version of
so many people for like fifteen years. Now I think
Zach Effron is forty, so I think I gonna move
on a little bit.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Well, and he's got that chiseled jaw and all that.
I hope he's okay, no, because I mean he had
some issues and stuff, so like, I hope he's he's
doing right. He was great in The Iron Claw, which
is coming to streaming here in the next week or so,
so that'll be.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Good because I mean, the minute this King's Oilers game ends,
I want I Want Draft Day and it's it's not it.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
It's not anywhere I found it. It's just a question
of whether you subscribe to the service to be who
has it?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Who's got it? Peacock, Oh, I gotta go stream to
find it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I just thought, like, you know, hey, I can now
a cable and go from TBS to TNT.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh I found it here. It's on you know, it's
on Sci Fi.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Here while you try to set up you know, your
knicks take, I'll see if I can scroll through and
find it.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's on the easy Okay, Well it is after ten o'clock. Okay,
see And here's the thing. You want to know why
I always say the Knicks are going to the finals.
Knicks are going to the Finals. Go to New York,
Go to New York.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
You're insane.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
And it's one of those things like saying, you know
a certain former quarterback, you know he's done, he's finished,
and then he's there for eventually Father Time's gonna get him.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Uh. We talked to Rick Buker last hour, who gave
just an.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Incredible difference between the Knicks and the Sixers and the Celtics, right,
and how the Knicks chemistry and their desire and their
will to win, this is what.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You need in the playoffs. And we talked about that
with the Sixers and especially the Celtics. Beginning of the
show tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I said, look, you want to know why I keep
saying nixt to going to the final six to find
because I look at a team like the Celtics, who
are better than anybody in the NBA, and a night
where they can just show up and throw the hammer
down and win this series. Instead they lose and now
they gotta go back to Miami and get home court back.
And it's a longer series than it was expected, and
the heat come in with heat culture. I know we're

(05:15):
gonna get heat culture for the next forty eight hours.
Gonna drive me in true. Thank goodness, we have the
draft tomorrow night. Don't have to hear about heat culture
tomorrow night. But it's a case where Okay, they're missing
their best player, the guy that brings them alive in
the playoffs, right, not just anybody, but I got playoff Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
They're missing him, and they still come in and win
the game.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Meanwhile, Oklahoma City, who is playing at home against a
team also missing their best player, they give them a
clinic in Game two of this series. They win by
thirty and that series is over all. Right, The Thunder
play really well. Chet Holmgren is terrific, shy gildess. Alexander
has a slow start but then really finishes up strong.
I see a team there that's mentally strong that Celtics
are not. They have no lunch pale mentality. They have

(05:56):
no Hey, we're gonna get out and we're gonna outwork you,
and we're gonna make sure grind because you got a
grind to win the NBA title. And you know what,
Celtics are on a grind team. Right, watching them tonight,
the Heat, we're hitting threes. Okay, what was the adjustment
that the Celtics made. The adjustment was they'll probably start missing.
They'll start missing at some point, right, we don't have

(06:17):
to worry about that they're gonna miss at some point.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Like that's what it was like.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You just if you didn't watch the game, just watch
the montage of all the threes the Heat are hitting
and it's there. They're pretty much one on one and
they're open, they have space between them. And to see
Joe Mizzula say after the game, I thought they were
pretty well contested. Dude, what the hell game are you watching? Man,
Take ownership of that loss, Take ownership of that that. Hey,
this is not acceptable because this is why no one
believes in the Celtics to win. Why when they finish

(06:42):
fifteen games ahead of everybody else in the East, it's well,
the Bucks, if they get it going, the Nicks have
a puncher's chance.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Look at some of these other teams.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's why nobody sits back and says, man, look at
the Celtics, because they just don't have that mentality.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
They're not no, no, they they got to day had
a lot of talent.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
But this is exactly buddy, This is exactly why the
Celtics fall short because when it comes time for big
dig down moments, they don't have it. Sometimes it's in
the finals, sometimes in the conference finals, sometimes in the
first round of the playoffs. But tonight this was abysmal.
I mean, I get that the heat are gonna come
out and they're going to end up playing well, they're
gonna shoot really well, but you need some kind of adjustment.

(07:21):
I mean, you need some kind of adjustment to try
to win this game.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah, but that goes back to what we had last year.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
He was doing these long monologues Missoula post games, you know,
lamenting the change and you know the importance of the
three point shot, like he was trying to do a
graduate dissertation. And now you have this excuse coming out.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, they were due.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Right, it's everybody's idea of well, I'm gonna keep betting
on this or I'm gonna keep doing this because eventually
it's gonna break through. No, eventually, you've just put your
picture next to the definition of insanity. And that's exactly
what you have the Celtics, and and why they were.
Even with the huge double digit win of the conference

(08:06):
coming into the playoffs, it was still the Yeah, you
gotta like him to get towards the conference finals. But
dot dot a lot of questions about your guy Porzingis.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
He was awful tonight. Who's finished? I told you that?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
What did I always tell you about Porzingis? He plays well,
and then when you need him, he either disappears, you
don't know he's on the floor, or he gets hurt
like that's poors it. That's been Porzingis's entire career. He's
he'll give you stretches where he looks amazing and he
makes the Celtics look unbeatable, the Lizard and all of
his talent, and then there's times that you go, man,
I haven't really seen him on the floor in like

(08:40):
three weeks, and tonight was one of those nights for Porzingis.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
He was all tonight.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
But also, like we were talking about with Rick Buker
last hour, right, Jason Tatum still has the I don't
know what I'm going to get in terms of does
he have, you know, the killer instinct to close it
out and finish the job for you? Tonight fourth quarter
three shot attempts, all right, Jalen Brown, not not much more.

(09:05):
The ball not going into their hands. Your best playmakers,
your best scores, they're not seeing the opportunity down the stretch.
And give the Heat credit, Spolstra whatever you like the
culture comment or you don't, you know that you know
what they are. You're gonna get a forty eight minute
effort out of them, and you're gonna have to match it.

(09:27):
And if they're hitting shots, well you'll go go back
to the drawing board or you know, as we would say,
start deep up and force the extra pass.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But here, you.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Know, they now go one to one your Knicks, and
really you look down the Eastern Conference, it's like, all right,
opportunities there to go and create some chaos because the
Heat is still playing indefinitely without Butler. Tonight, you got
a masterful game out of Tyler hero twenty four points,
but he had fourteen assists right moving the basketball because

(10:00):
what was the knock on him?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
He doesn't pass.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Guess what fourteen assists? Sonya uh surprise. He can move
the ball when he needs to. So yeah, this is
why you can't shut the door normally I would on
the Knicks this year not so much because they will,
but they do give you the Nolan richardson the end
to bring in a timely reference forty minutes of hell
in this case forty eight and that twenty seven seconds

(10:27):
yesterday for all of them, or two days ago with
all the missed calls and and everything else where was
that yesterday? It seems it all bleeds together anymore.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was two days ago. Y had two days It
was two.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Days ago, all right, where you have all of the
breakdown and this and this contact that wasn't called whatever else.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's like, you know what, they kept playing.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
And what if we preached I mean, you preached this
when you coach your daughter's soccer team. You played till
the reverberation of the whistle make him, make him fat,
an emphatic call.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Otherwise you keep playing. And that's exactly what the Knicks do.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
And then the end of game two embodies what their
season and what their identity.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Is all under Tom Thibodeau.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Look and to get this from the Celtics, to widen
it out to the Lakers and the seventy six ers. Right,
you mentioned the Knicks. I didn't have to because you
know that you know good they are.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know, the Knicks.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Watched it all year and look, they don't have to
be great, you know, jitlan Brunt, it's been awful.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Look, and they still want to get now.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And I still I'm worried that they that he can
be neutralized a little bit more than people think. But
remember Mark Medina guaranteed me he would score forty in Game.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Three, so I feel pretty good. Shots Medina was non committal.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
And you know who else is never coming on the
show again.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
He had a good run.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
But I know the Knicks are focused on the right things, right.
I just know just by watching how they play and
how they execute. The Knicks are focused on the right things.
The Lakers and the seventy six Ers and the Celtics
are not right. The Celtics, we've talked about their lack
of offu pail attitude and with the Sixers and the
Lakers being focused on different.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Things, like how can you take them seriously? Right?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You have the Lakers and Anthony Davis, you know, throwing
that shot across the bow at Darvin Ham that there's
lots of times we don't know what we're doing. And
Darvin Ham had just said today, oh yeah, I'll respectfully
disagree with ad. This is the middle of the first
round of the playoffs and you have Anthony Davis saying, yeah,
we don't know what we're doing. Right, You're you're focused
on that. You're you're not focused on the game. You're

(12:29):
focused on that. You're the Sixers. You're focused on the officiating.
Not once did I see any seventy six er take
ownership of that loss too that by saying, hey, we
should have called time out before the inbounds pass, or
we you know, we could have advanced the ball, or
we should have had a better play ready.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Than MAXI going to the hoop too anything.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I didn't see there being any bit of, hey, let's
own this loss a bit. It's just no, I want
to blame somebody and look for an excuse.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's why I say this is why your teams like
the Knicks. They're easy to root for. You can see
the teams that want it, and you can see the
teams that are ready to fold that the pressure is
too much for them, or or whatever else is going
on in their heads, and they know, deep in their
hard hearts, we can't win the title because we gacked
it in the first round in the end of the
season because we didn't want to play a certain team
in the first round of the playoffs. You see it,

(13:18):
and you see why the teams that are up to
zip and the teams aren't because you see how they're
acting in behaving. You see why the Knicks are up
to zip. You saw why the Celtics lost tonight, and
you see why the Lakers are down to zip. And
you see the seventy six ers down to zip and
they're mad. All right, It's pretty easy. It's pretty easy
to see why you got to focus on the right
things and those teams just don't do it.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Just real quick.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
With the Lakers, the cowardice of Davis to put it
on the coach. It's like, how about telling your other
superstar that you can feed the ball back into him
and it doesn't have to go to iso ball like
we talked about.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
How about you keep the Lakers out your mouth.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
Hey, quick update.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Uh you talk about making your own breaks, and in
the Stanley Cup playoffs you make your own breaks. The
oilers are buzzing, and overtime in the King's end, the Kings.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Clear the puck and this is just a clearing pass.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's gonna go down the side and around the boards
behind the Edmonton net, and instead it deflects off a
player right to Copaitar's stick who breaks into the zone
one on none and he scores. Game over, Kings win.
They tie the series at one game at piece. It's
an incredible amount of luck. But like I said, it's
what happens. Like they're just clearing the puck all the

(14:37):
way down the ice and it deflected off a player
and right to his stick, and and everybody is surprised,
and copan Art takes about three strides in and scores
like it's twenty thirteen. Look at that, all of this sudden.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Not say cop wear it.

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Speaker 7 (16:58):
Redirected toward the middle called Pascal on. Jake Coppitar is
the hero of Game two. The Kings have tied up
this series of one.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
There it is King's Radio Network on the call in
over time, the Kings beat the oilers and tell you
no sport involves a bounce of the ball going one
way or the other more than the NHL. I mean,
this was a This was an overtime where the Oilers
had a couple of good chances and all the Kings
were doing was looking to clear the puck down the ice.

(17:33):
It was it was gonna go all the way down
the boards and around the back of the net. Edmonton
would get it. They would be line changes. It looked
like both teams were gonna change on the fly, and
instead the clearing pass deflex off. A player who was
leaving the ice bounces back into the middle where Onse
Copetar is right there like it's twenty eleven, and here
he goes in and boom he roofs. It wins the

(17:54):
game in overtime for the Kings, all because a clearing
pass down the ice gets to flex.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
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Speaker 1 (18:02):
Uh oh yeah, you might be. Oh yeah, yeah, Edmonton.
I will give you that Frostburg if you want to.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
There you go. Two minutes seven seconds for this one.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Not quite the six seconds against the Blackhawks last week,
but hey, a little bit longer. I want to know
what the exit velocity was on that shot.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Oh man, you went top shelf.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
That was a top shelf rocket, and I don't think
announce it didn't out.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I was like, whoa, all.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Right, now we have a big, a big Bowl prediction
for the NFL Draft coming your Wait a minute, but
just you know, usually every time this year we talk
about the NFL Draft, we always ask the questions about
the movie Draft Day, Right, there's all these different things,
and and every year, you know, we kind of talk
about the same thing, like I still can't believe this,
or you know that that Chie McBride is saying, oh, yeah,

(18:50):
if we draft lower it, we'll solve our salary cap power.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
No salary cap problems when you're drafting.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
But I got a I got a couple of other
ones that I go, okay, really this would happen. I
got a couple of off the beaten path draft day questions. Okay,
let's go all right, here we go. First one, will
an NFL owner really threaten to fire a GM on
the day of the draft?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Do you think that really that really happens, that the
owner will fire on the day. The GM's got to
be perfect, right, he's got to be on his game. There,
an owner's gonna threaten to fire if he doesn't if
he doesn't increase performance.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, I don't know if it's as blatant is walking
around to water park to do it and uh talking
it out, But I got to make a splash, see
a splash water park?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Is that? I mean?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
How many times have we now seen front offices gutted
a week or two after a draft happens regardless of.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
The Jets, That Jets let a guy draft and fired
him the next week, right, I mean we've seen that
a number of times late. And you wonder why the
Jets don't win? I wonder why? All right, here's my
next one for you.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
A head coach of a team is really going to
talk to the GM's girlfriend about asking her to help
convince him to make a trade like that would happen?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I mean he's new to this team. Yeah, right,
he does have the ring from his time with the Cowboys.
I mean he is Dennis Leary. He's a powerful man.
He once tried to capture Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Uh that Captain Stacey's Spider Man.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
That you go to people in the building of influence,
and who better than Jennifer Garner.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Who you know, I want to go talk to Jennifer
Garner too, but I mean like to get a trade.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Hey, can you help me? I want, I want to.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
But she's also the capologist. See that's the thing you got.
She's not just his girlfriend. Yeah, she's got pretty big here.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
And here's the last one I had.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
All right, Okay, why why wasn't Sonny's dad given the
option to retire if his health was bad and they
were gonna fire, don't you say, dude, you losing, just retire? Okay,
you don't want to get fired, retire walk away? Like,
really didn't give them the option. His wife calls him dead.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
And makes them fire him because of his health.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
They didn't say, hey, dude, you can't really coach your
stuff going on, We're gonna give you the option to retire.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
They couldn't do that for him, really, they could let
him retire. Well, sometimes you say take it from my
cold dead hand, and in this case this is cold
dead hand. I'm just thinking that would have been a thing. Well,
I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot that
goes out here.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
You haven't done your due diligence on any of these
guys till draft day either. You didn't know any of
these details all of a sudden. This guy's a damn
super sleuth. Hey, Sonny, what do you think they found out?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Just tell me or Eddie. Well, maybe Sonny would have
had time to look at some players. You'd have to
go out and spread his dad's ashes on the practice field.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, but again, I mean, you've got months building up
to this. You got Frank Gleangell breathe it down, you like.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I think they would have called Sam Elliott before the
day of the draft to ask him about But that's
what I mean, the first conversation about guy's head coach.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Is this all right here? Okay?

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, look, possible number one pick, and let's
talk about that quarterback.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Now, what the hell have you been doing with the
off season.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's like they just showed up today for the draft
for the first time. Hey, we're here, all right, let's go.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Oh man, it's six months condensed into one day. Let's
see how much you'll work with us in the theater
of the mind, shall we.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I'm just saying those things like there's even more questions
about that. Oh no, we'll keep asking him. I don't
know that that would have happened. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
tirach dot Com studios. Now on the eve of the
real draft, everybody is wondering, Hey, when are we gonna
see the quarterbacks go? What kind of trades are we
gonna go with? And I'll tell you this much, Tomorrow
is gonna be insane. You're gonna see all six quarterbacks
go before pick fifteen, and you're gonna see at least

(22:54):
three trades. Now, you may not see the trades where
you expect. We expect to see some trades at three
and four and maybe five, you know five, where teams
are gonna go up to get a quarterback. I don't
think that's where we're gonna see the trades because once
you get out of the first two picks.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Being Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, to get all the way up to three and four,
where these teams have to come from from the middle
of the first round, it costs a lot, like you're
talking about first and second round picks and even more
than that, and it's a lot to come up to
get a guy that, hey, maybe bo Nix is really good.
Maybe JJ McCarthy is really good, but maybe Drake May
is really good. But you know, is that where they're

(23:32):
gonna come up. I'll tell you where the trades are
gonna happen, and it's gonna happen with your team and
my team, because at nine and ten, those tradeause teams
are gonna trade down. The Bears and or the Jets
will trade out of their picks to the teams picking
right behind them who want to move up for a quarterback.
Because you're gonna see the quarterbacks go. You'll see three
come off the board early. Drake May will come off

(23:53):
the board. But now after the Bears go at nine,
the Jets go at ten, you are looking at Minnesota, Denver,
the Raiders, and then you have the Seahawks at sixteen,
who are all in need of a quarterback. You know,
the Seahawks want to move on from Geno Smith. They
as much as said so this offseason. The price to
move up from eleven, twelve, thirteen, sixteen to nine or

(24:15):
ten not nearly as great as it is to get
all the way up to three.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
So if they have a quarterback, they like, who is there?
If bo Nix is there, Michael Pennix Junior is there,
JJ McCarthy is there.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Regardless how much I like these guys, if they like
a guy there, Yeah, those teams are gonna move up
because that's where teams will make deals. Because for the
Bears and the Jets, it's not a big deal to
move down from nine or ten to thirteen. Yeah, because
the Jets are gonna look and say, Okay, the guys
we like are Joe Walton, Brock Powers right, and guess what,
they're probably both gonna be gone, So yeah, we'll move down.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Bears, the same thing.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
The Bears will say, hey, to move from because that's
the first teama teams are gonna call because that's ahead
of the Jets.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
You're talking about number nine. Hey, this is where we're
gonna go.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
And if I'm the Bears, yeah, i trade down too,
because I've done my work in the offseason. We got
the core, we need more talent. We'll be able to
get a couple more draft picks that we like moving
down here. So I look at the Bears and the
Jets and say, that's where you're gonna see the trades happen,
and that's where you're gonna see the last flurry of
quarterbacks go right around that nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen hook.
You'll see him early in the first three four picks,

(25:17):
and then you're gonna have like five or six picks
with no quarterbacks, and then you're gonna see three or
four more go from that hook nine through thirteen or fourteen.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, because I did my my thought exercise, and I
did a thing and I've always done it as a
there's no trades, and I get credit if the guy
ends up on the right team. However that happens. However,
trades and happenstance. But I had the three quarterbacks up top,
and then McCarthy, Nicks, Pennix in that order, going Minnesota
Denver Raiders with no trade involved. But if they believe

(25:49):
any of those teams, right, because you keep drawing lines
to these between them saying, well, these are obvious fits
to you know, of those remaining quarterbacks, well fits there,
Nicks fits what Sean Payton wants to do. McCarthy, you know,
goes to work with O'Connor, like all of these kinds
of things. If it's not Drake may of course that

(26:10):
it goes. Look for the Bears. How much do they
want to stock that wide receiver room and Donza has
talked about it and that connection working out with Caleb Williams.
Williams doing some interviews earlier today, was talking about going
and grabbing an offensive lineman. So maybe you trade back
because how much separation do you have between Fuaga and

(26:34):
Fashanu and Fautanu. I'm trying to get my pronunciations ready
to get them ready for tomorrow, but you know what
I mean, like, how much of a difference in separation
are there between.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Those three guys? Uh?

Speaker 5 (26:46):
And is that what you're looking to add on to
as well? Both for my Bears and your Jets. You know,
you did add some offensive linemen, but they're almost as
old as Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. You could pick
which you probably want to keep adding depth, which means one.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Of those teams get get a QB. If Alt is there,
they'll take him. If Bowers is there, they'll probably take him.
But if Alt is gone that the Jets are a
prime team to move down. They're absolutely prime team to
move down. And look the Bears only because you need
more players. It's not a big deal for you to
move down from nine to twelve or thirteen you're building,
you're starting over with Caleb Williams. Yeah, you can get

(27:24):
another wide receiver, but maybe you get a wide receiver
in four picks.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right, well, but you also have but you also look
at that room right now.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
You're in pretty good shape, right and we talk about
how deep the wide receiver position is. And if you
go and add another couple of picks, well, not only
will you get one of those wide receivers, maybe not
one of the top three guys, but maybe with that
another one of the picks that you you add on
that you can add to the room. I mean, you're
already already sitting pretty with all the additions as we've

(27:52):
laid out through the last couple of weeks. But you
can also continue to fortify the offensive line, because again,
it's all in, you know, to make this a success,
especially when you're gonna try to build a four point
six now way Jerry.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Jones all in? Or are you really all in? Like
what all in?

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Well?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I think at least on the surface, it's it's a reel.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
All in, Mike's Ezekiel Elliot all in?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
That's right, Hey, that is the report. I mean, we
didn't even get to it. Today.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
They reportedly near the facilities and talking with the cowboys.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I think they need Ezekiel Elliott near facilities and talking
to the cowboys. Could be him pulling up outside and
yelling through a window like that could be that could
be what that is, like, did you guys have talks?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I said, get out of here?

Speaker 8 (28:39):
I said, hey, it's me, Zeke. Open the front door. Hey, Zeke,
let me call and see if I can let you in.
Hang on a second, we're prepping for the draft. Man,
you gotta come back another time.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, but no on sign I want to sign.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
But legitimately, right as you laid it out, like going
up to three or four, I mean it, it's gonna
take a lot. I still even with the quarterbacks there
for New England and say, well, you need to get
a guy. The rest of your roster is still bad.
So why draft a guy who's gonna get no chance
to succeed?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Right? I mean that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
In Arizona, you've got thirteen other picks, so trading back
and adding another two or three picks, like, the hell's
the difference at that?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think if you're Arizona, you get as many guys
you want as you need.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Hey, we don't have thirty picks. If we could, I'd
love to have that.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
I think that's the We already paid Kyler Murray. We
need to get a wide receiver right here, and we
want whoever is the top of our board.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
How many spots? Then a roster of fifty three? All right,
we want fifty three. Actually, we have Kyler Murray fifty
two draft picks. Let's get fifty two of them.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Fifty two.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Yeah, because right now they only have one wide receiver
under contract beyond next year Anderald that's Michael Wilson. Actually,
Larry Fitzgerald might still be getting paid ever.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Know uh, time now to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports from our own Brian fanlely Bach.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Wow, my friend.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
Yeah, Bobby Bonia is still getting paid, I think for
your Mets.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Jason July first, buddy, Yeah, looking.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
Forward to making at announcement and having the show revolve
around I'll.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Call in from London that game.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, exactly what we all.

Speaker 9 (30:23):
But now, as far as the NBA is concerned, playoffs,
we had two games tonight. Last one to wrap up
was the thunder and they demolished the Pelicans one twenty
four to ninety two. It's a game two out West,
so out to a two games to non lead in
the series is okay. See shake Gilgess Alexander went hard
in the lane for thirty three points. That was a
team high. Meanwhile, out East, first round of game two

(30:46):
going the Heat's way one eleven to one oh one.
The Celtics the top seed, they got embarrassed at home.
That series is all even at one, and in this
particular game, the Heat made a playoff record twenty three
three point and after this game, Celtics head coach Joe
Missoula was a bit saddened and he's not going to

(31:07):
look too far past this one.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
That's unfortunate.

Speaker 10 (31:10):
That losing a game is adversity. I would say it's
just the nature of the playoffs is adverse itself. So
to think that you're you know, you're not going to
have ups and downs throughout a run, you know you're
not being realistic.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
So so he's looking at it as a teaching or
learning experience. Meanwhile, in the NHL three games three postseason contests,
that one from Los Angeles or at least involving a
team from Los Angeles, the Kings winning an overtime in
Edmonton against the Oilers five to four Western Conference first Round.
These are all first round series, Game two going LA's waist,

(31:42):
so a series is all tied up at one. Game
two in Dallas, the Golden Knights stick it to the
Stars thanks to one goal scored in each of the
three periods of play. Vegas up two games to none
there and the Boston Bruins they have a two games
to one lead over the Maple LEAs after Boston went
into Toronto and took out the maple Leaves four to two,

(32:04):
so the Celtics lost with the Bruins offset things for
Boston fans with a win there on the road. And
in Major League Baseball, the Boston Celtics. They came up
with an eight to notzhing win over the Guardians, by
the way, thanks to sixteen hits. Connor Wong hit a
couple of home runs for Boston in that one. Francisco
Lindora hit a couple of jacks for the Mets, and

(32:27):
they're surprising eight to two win on the road against
the Giants. And lastly, guys, it was Mike Trout hitting
his tenth THRM run of the season. That is a
league best, But the angel still lost six to five
against the Orioles and Mike Harmon's White songs. Every time
I'm in this seat, it seems as if they lose
another game.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Me too.

Speaker 9 (32:51):
With that, Let's get it back to two guys who
are a winning combination. It's Jason Smith and Americas Teddy
Bear best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
That's a good monk, sir, baby, won't a Teddy Bear
loving Teddy Bear.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Teddy Bear Teddy Three starring Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Put a chain around my neck, leave me anywhere.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Let's go watch a Northwestern football game. Okay, come on,
let's go do that. This will be fun, right with me,
You and Tom Brady and Walk Walburg.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
We can go do that. Let's go watch that game, Tommy.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Hey baby, let's go back to the park.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Exit out bout of Fresco, Exit Swollen Dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Oh, the
NFL Draft. Don't forget Tomorrow night, Yes, Thursday night, eight
pm Eastern throughout the first round of the Draft. Brought
to you by Expresspros dot Com insider Jay Glazer, former

(33:53):
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(34:16):
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Expresspros dot Com. Well, coming up next, somebody won the
Heisman Trophy today. Yes, maybe you missed that big announced
with the Downtown Athletic Club, but yes, someone won the

(34:38):
Heisman Trophy today.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
It's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Did you just trash my office Live from the tirach
Dot cobs udeos. Yeah, why don't you trade me to
a team? That what Kansas City wants me to trade
me to them? They want me to be their quarterback.
You know, how weird is it that you have a
quarterback like in a movie that's gonna be immortal? You know,
Brian Drew is based on Brian Hoyer. I mean, just

(35:18):
think about legend. You're like Brian Hoyer. Yeah, Brian Hoyer, Man,
that's who's kind of he's based on. Uh yes. I
still I don't understand why why Draft Day is not
on at this point.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
It should be on a twenty four hour loop. I
don't get it. It just seems like an opportunity missed.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
I went and searched my my cable listings for upcoming viewings.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
It's not there.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Did you call it? Cable guy?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Cable guy? No, why did you do that? I knew
Harmon was gonna do that. Come on, man, you got
you can't do that. You can't why he was gonna
do that.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
All right, let's give America what they really want.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Guys, Well, what do they really want?

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Less than twenty four hours from the first round of
the NFL Draft. Give me one through five, your.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Mocks one through five, one through final mock?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Here one through five.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Who's going with with no with no trades?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Zero trades.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
So you're talking about no trades where it's gonna go
straight up? Oh boy, all right, Frostburg, I will, I
will do something nice for you. I will do something
very nice for you. Wow, that's rare, because I will.
I will go out on a limb. I will go
out on a limb and say that at five because
I'll go backwards for you. I will say at five,
the Chargers take Marvin Harrison Junior. Because if they don't,

(36:31):
it means Jim Harbaugh has no idea what he's doing.
He's gonna try to run the football and win and
deemphasize justin Herbert we doesn't.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
He doesn't know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's it's it's what a what A what a fast
recipe and disaster that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's just gonna be amazing. It's gonna be cuge. I
have Latham at five from Alabama.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Look, and there's no way the Cardinals stay it four.
There's no way they do. So that they'll trade out
with somebody.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Uh, and so I'll just give the book.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'll give you, Okay, you know what. I'll say this.
I'll say this because this will be fun.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I'll say the Giants trade up to four with the Cardinals,
who swapped back to six, so the Giants can take
JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Oh, spicy, It is spicy. Not giving up a lot
the Giants love. They gotta have a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
They love McCarthy, okay, and it's just two spots, so
it's not a lot to give up. The Cardinals move back,
they'll get something they like. They'll still be able to
get neighbors or or Roma Dunes. And the Giants move
up to number four, and then they wind up taking him.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Just a question of which of those wide receivers they
love and is there a big gap, because if so,
Marvin Harrison is a member of your Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Number three. The Patriots take Drake May. Yep, and they
want to get out of that pick. I thought they
were gonna They still might. They still might, depends on
what they would take. But at this point at three,
they're not gonna do anything else other than get a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
It's Drake May at three for the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, I still would say you don't, and then you
take as many picks as you can convince someone to
give you so you can keep building the rest of
that roster for your first year head coach. But seems
like it's all trending towards May being a member of
the Pats And.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I think at two and one, it's gonna be pretty
easy jayde and Daniels at two to the Washington Commanders
and Caleb Williams at one of the Bears, unless the
Chargers trade Herbert to the Bears so they can pick
number one and they take JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I will hurt you.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
We walk in tomorrow night and Frostburg's sitting there with
a baseball bat, the doll and shovel.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
If we manifest that into happenings.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
We've been talking about that crazy story for a couple
of months, and now today the odds of the Chargers
drafting JJ McCarthy have gone way up, and Adam Schefter
was couldn't believe it on ESPN.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I don't know what's happening. I don't know why this
is going on.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
That's one hundred million dollar cap, hits, sir.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
If we make that happen, I might retire because we
might not be able to put anything else in the.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Air and manufactur out of thin air better than that. Yeah,
if that happens, I mean, we repent.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I've got the text ready to send me your family.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
He had a good run.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Hey, I was not in my right mind when I
pre wrote this text twenty three and a half hours
before the draft.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Speaking of repent, Reggie Bush is getting his Heisman trophy back. Yeah, Hey,
fourteen years the Heisman Trust is giving it back to
him because they said, basically, what's going on in college
football now is basically what went on in college football
when Reggie lost his Heisman trophy. So because of the
various changes in the vast landscape of college football, they're

(39:41):
okay with giving Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy back.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
So Reggie Bush is getting it back mainly because all the.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Stuff players are getting now with nil that's what Reggie
Bush did back in you know, fourteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So he's getting this Heisman trophy back.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Look, this was stupid when he got it taken from him,
because it was taken from for political reason, and I
mean football political reasons, where hey, we can really send
a message and show other teams that we're serious about cheating,
because USC with the rock Stars are college football. And
now look what what happens. Now Suddenly it looks like
they were cheating the whole time, and look at Reggie

(40:15):
Bush was getting. So they did that politically and giving
it back to him is stupid because it's a political Hey,
let's try to get some good publicity for the Heisman
Trophy and we can welcome Reggie Bush back in. He
can do all the Heisman commercials. He's probably the most
guy in shape, in shape guy that'll be in the
Heisman house. Because if I got to watch Barry Sanders
trying to fit into a jersey still, it's like, come on,

(40:37):
guys not working, nobody knows who Jason White is. You
need somebody. You need Reggie Bush. The guy's on TV
all the time. He looks like he can still play.
I get that's for pr purposes to giving it back
to Reggie Bush, letting him be a part of the
Heisman community. He's now officially back, he's not banned from anything.
It was stupid that they gave it to him, and
it's stupid that they gave it back to him. Because
to say, oh, because what was going on now, Well

(41:00):
it was illegal then, but it's not illegal now. It
was still illegal back then, like everything that happened was
still illegal. It was he knew what was going on.
It was still illegal, and now it's oh yeah, but
but now it's not really, So it's okay, Oh okay, great,
got it.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
So that's your philosophy.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
So what happens to all those scholarships and everything that
happened to us?

Speaker 4 (41:19):
How upset do you think Jason Cole is after this
news today?

Speaker 5 (41:23):
What the hell we did, all the work we did,
our due diligence, and now these years later, because it's
just their explanation just is irksome to a whole other level.
It's like, wow, the changing landscape. So you know we're
gonna just revoke this and make it all better, all right,
That doesn't change the way everything went down and the

(41:46):
course of the NFL and collegiate history because of that.
And look, it's it's nonsense, But congratulations, he can go
get paid and get his inscription money now at autograph signings.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Look, look like I said, it's a PR thing. He
lost it for PR. He got it back for pr
The whole thing is just stupid. The whole thing is
just I'd rather the Heisman Trust just say, hey, he's
done his time, enough is enough, it's time to give
him the Heisman Trophy back.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'd rather that than make up and air and say, oh,
well what's going on now is not is not? Yeah,
but it was illegal. It was illegal, man, I mean
it was. You probably sound like it wasn't it was.
I like how they surprised all those former Heisman winners.
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