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Jason Smith & Mike Harmon recap the first night of the NFL Draft with Michael Penix Jr heading to Atlanta and Joe Alt going to Los Angeles being among the top reactions.

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:52):
should be well first round is in the books. And
boy did we have fun drama. We had unexpected drama.
We had a couple of teams go wait, wait, wait,
what do you what are you doing? What's happening? Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's that? What's going on here? I think the best
thing to do is let's work backwards. Okay, let's work
back We just finished the first round. Great job listener,
Rob Stone and Steve Kim and Jay Glazer who busted
ass out of here gone to get to the airport
to get to his wedding. Like he was out of
here so fast, like Jay's is forty time getting out
of the studio and into his car. I mean he was.

(01:26):
It was like watching Tyreek.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Hill run lean and mean drafts.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
He was like watching Xavier Worthy in those highlight reels
that we saw.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Usually we see Jay stops like, hey, guys, how you
know what I'm gone by? And he just kept walking away. Ferry,
we was gone. Uh. But we saw the first round
of the draft just and then let me let me
start here because this is this is a there's two
big things that that are going to own the night,
and the first one is this. Near the end of
the first round, we just saw the Bills trade with

(01:54):
the Chiefs. Yeah, Bills were picking at twenty eight. They
let the Chiefs move up to take Xavier Words, the
really good wide receiver, incredibly fast, as you mentioned out
of Texas. A lot of people like him. There's a
lot of talented wide receivers on the board. Number One,
I don't get why the Bills didn't draft him because
you know, the Bills have no wide receivers. They let

(02:15):
Stefan Diggs got that wide receivers. Okay, so they should
have drafted them, but not only that. Secondly, how the
hell do you help the chiefs?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Don't get How.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
The hell do you help the cheese? You know, if
my ex girlfriend's boyfriend new boyfriend calls me and says, hey,
I'm in a pickle, can you give me your ride
to the airport, I'm not saying yeah, I'll be over
to get No, get yourself friends, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, I don't know. I mean, you're a nice guy.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
You might have a couple of minutes find out what
it's so different about him that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, get bent, get yourself to the airport, take an uber,
get bent.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Him a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
There's no why would I do? It's no way. There's
no way. Man. Hey, As as my daughter tells me,
is that they go through like how everybody is in
high school. Now, there's there's alphas who are leaders of
a group, and betas who are followers. Sigmas are lone wolves,
and omegas are ones who just hang out by themselves.
I am not a beta. I am not following, and

(03:20):
that's I'm not going oh yet. No, why would you
Why would you help the Chiefs? Why would you help
the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's one of the dumbest things I think I've Why
would anybody help them? Hey, we get to move up
thirty slots in the fourth round.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
If you were, if you were the figure round whatever,
that is the biggest bottom feeder in the NFC. I
can see making it trade with the Chiefs because you
could say, well, we're in the other conference. We stink,
So yeah, all right, we we we gotta make ourselves
We're not worried about the Chiefs. We had to make
ourselves better. But the bill you are, you have just
watched the Chiefs end your season seasons the Bold downs. Yeah,

(03:54):
and you say, yeah, we're gonna move back with you. Really,
you're gonna trade. You're gonna trade with the Super Bowl
champions and help them get better. They already brought in
Hollywood Brown. Now they got Xavier Worthy. If Roushie Rice
figures his thing out, suddenly this is the best group
of wide receivers Patrick Mahomes has had since Tyreek Hill left.
And you gave it to him. You said, here, I'm
knocking on your door with brownies. I'm your neighbor from

(04:16):
across the street. It's like it's the movie where the
single divorced dad moves in. Who's good looking, like Jamie
Denton or somebody like that, And and did you really
just go Jamie? I did go Jamie Dent. And then
like you know, a housewife from across like Desperate Housewives
come from across the street. Oh, I made this platter
of food for you. Hey, can we be friends? That
one doing that highway? Why would you do that? I

(04:37):
don't understand why you would help the Chiefs. I don't
get that. That's the team you're chasing. That's the team
that's gonna get to three of the next six Super
Bowls most likely. And you just said, hey, here's something
else to help you get there. Because you know what
I did immediately was all right, what did they get?
Is there something that's not being communicated? You know that
that somehow we didn't have here, that wasn't on the television.

(04:59):
It's like, was it cut off the graphic? Did they
get some other player or some other rights?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I don't know, because just the transfer of then the
swapping of picks made absolutely zero sense for a Buffalo
squad trying to maximize whatever's left of Josh Allen's peak years.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And you're going you're not doing it by trading down
and not drafting. They traded out again. They traded that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Not only did they trade there, they traded with the
Panthers at the final pick.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Maybe people won't notice or pay attention if we trade
the pick again, maybe they'll forget that we're the ones
that traded with the Chiefs to begin with.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I don't know when they sees Xavier Worthy running past him,
because that's going to show up on the damn graphic
every time.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
You know how they got him? Look Bills. And here's
the thing, and here's the thing about wide receivers in
the draft. Yes, you could say, well, if Xavier Worthy
was that good, he would have been drafted earlier. And
I understand that. But every year in the draft, the
wide receivers are better and better. There may be no
difference between Xavier Worthy and Romo doing. When it's all
said and done, you get five or six five or

(06:03):
six rookie wide receivers jump in every year and they're good.
Ask anybody who plays fantasy boy, these rookie wide receivers
where you go right and you if you were look
if the Jets wanted to sure, okay your Jets, you'll
screw it up because whatever you do is wrong. But
I don't get how you trade with Jam Davis is gone.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't under Von Diggs is gone. Guess what you
need a guy to go run under the ball?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I really I don't. I don't understand how you how
you do that? I really don't. Now as far as
things I don't understand. Yeah, that was that was. If
that's on the metal stand.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's but that's that's at the end of the round,
at that point where I don't know, there's a coma
or something.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
There's a metal stand of things that I didn't get.
There's three definite things in the first round of the
draft that I go, oh boy, this made no sense.
And that's on the metal stand right to congrat It's
not gold medal though, but it's it's it's it's a
bronze or silver. It's hey, you're getting flowers. They you know,
you bend over, they put the metal around your neck
and you do the whole thing. I bite it like
it looked like it's real. That's on the metal stand.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
We shall do that.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
No, that's a whole thing. Like you do. You pretend
to bite them like it's real gold or real silver
chocolate like that. You Well, if you gave me a
chocolate metal I think it wouldn't make it. Hey, didn't
Jason Smith win a silver medal? Yeah, but it was
made of chocolate. No, he ate it before the pictures
did it wasn't supposed to find out. Weren't they taking
pictures the same time they put it around his neck. Yeah,
he just shoved in his mouth and started chewing. Look
at him there, he's just chilling.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
All of a sudden, there's you know, a bunch of
orange people running bike calling you a gush, just glum.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
And my hand would be out like Homer Simpson. More more,
just doing them more more.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
You start biting anything and everything near you, like you're
in the land of chocolate.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh oh no, the dog runs by, he picks it
up and bites it. The other thing is it's gonna
be very difficult because I know who the hardest working
people are right now in show business, and well it's
not James Brown. The hardest people working right now.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
You get it, well, you gotta go to the dead.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Get No, James Brown is not dead. The hardest working
guy in show business is James Brown, the former Fox
and CBS guy. You never heard that about him. No,
hardest working guy in show business, James Brown. That what
he tags himself. That would know someone tagged him with that,
and that's what he's been James Brown. No, No, James,
he was a senior. He was living in America. Yeah,
I didn't bring up his seat. And you say me, otto,

(08:15):
bring up the dead guy?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
He did?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
You brought up a dead guy that we weren't even
talking about.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
You weren't talking about that James Brown, right, I was
the hell would you bring that?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
James?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I was talking about James Brown, the former Texas quarterback. Yes,
that's who I was talking about. No, James Brown, hardest
we you never hurt, seriously, and.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You not for that James Brown. It was for the other.
It was for the singer.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Even Tyshert knows that's his nickname. And now Tyshert knows
nothing about sport, absolutely nothing. I think if you took
a poll, he doesn't know hours of teams and I'm
telling you, is James Brown hardest working guy in show business.
That's it. That's it. That's been his moniker for like
twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I don't believe you.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
What have you been doing? Where have you been? It's
like you've been hiding somewhere, like you've been with Kimmy Schmidt,
like under under the you know, finally you get out,
like hey, it's time ago, okay.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
The past, hanging out with Brendan Fraser in his fifties
baseball card.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
The hardest working people in show business right now, not
James Brown, are is everyone who's trying to come up
with a hot take for tomorrow on TV or the
radio where they can say, I really want to defend
the Falcons taking Michael Lennox Junior. I really want to
How can I defend it? Now? I can defend it

(09:25):
for him because there's a silver lining for taking Pennix,
which we'll get to in a few minutes. But why
the Falcons would take a quarterback? It baffles. It doesn't
make sense on any level. And you've already seen Kirk
Cousins is upset. His agent said, hey, we didn't know
that the Falcons would be taking a quarterback until it
actually happened on the draft. It was an insane moment

(09:48):
and the biggest what just happened moment in the draft
the last few years. Easy. The Falcons signed Kirk Cousins
to a four year contract. Right, they're paying them a
lot of money, and they go and they signed Michael
Pennock's I get what they're thinking. We're the smartest people
in the room. Kirk Cousins is older. We're gonna do
exactly what the Packers did. We're going to motivate kirk

(10:08):
Cousins to play well the next couple of years, and
then in three years or so, we'll replace him with
Michael Pennock Junior. And it's Jordan Love and boy, aren't
we smart? Patting ourselves on the back. There's only one
problem with that philosophy.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oo is it the tagline we've been using the last week.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
No, there's only no, there's it's not no, no all.
There's only one problem with that philosophy. Ask me what
it is?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
There's only one problem with philosophy. It's stupid. That's the
only stinks to It's stupid. It's to these the head
coach Raheem Morris GM, everybody else who drafted Michael Pennix,
and the players that are playing on the Falcons now
are not going to be around by the time he

(10:52):
ascends to being the starting quarterback. You're trying to win now.
And I get why Kirk Cousins is frustrated because he says,
boy would like to get a pick now to win something.
And that was the whole issue with Jordan Love. Hey,
Aaron Rodgers is pretty good. You picked Jordan Love. Do
you really need to like we motivated him by pick? Okay,
but I think you would have rather had a guy
there that might have helped you win. You could have
had a franchise player. Especially if you're picking in the

(11:15):
first round, you get a franchise player there potentially that
could help you win more. When you're picking at number nine,
you can get a franchise player for whatever your draft
needs are. Because I guarantee you, I'll look at all
the thousands of Falcons mock drafts that are out there,
dirty Bird mock draft, Falcon mock draft Falcon and Eagle
mocked out. Whatever is not one is gonna say one
of their needs quarterback. I'll forget the Falcon and the Snowman.

(11:36):
Not what Oh yeah, that's right. De Niro and Sean
Penny something. No, that was Timothy Hutton was the Falcon.
He was the falcon. He was a snowman. Who was he?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Who was the falcon? Penn was the snowman because of
the drugs?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, and he was the falcon because he flew superhero movie. No,
he flew in.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, no falcon.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
He flew in, got the drugs, flew out.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Be in a minute.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Since why you wouldn't take that number nine pick to
get a franchise type player? Because here's what the up
that philosophy. You signed Kirk Cousins, who is in his
mid thirties. You are trying to win now. You are
trying to win now, and you took somebody that, in
theory isn't going to see the field for three years.
Why would you do that? Why would you? Everybody else

(12:23):
in that locker room, all the Falcons players are going,
what the hell are we doing? Yeah? I get that
they're planning for the future. It's a future that I'm
not gonna be here for because in three years I'm
gonna be playing somewhere else. Now, a couple of people
get the long term contracts, but likely I'm gonna be
someplace else and we're supposedly trying to win. We have
a good nucleus. All they need was Kirk Cousins. We
are winning now and winning now. Suddenly they decided, no,

(12:45):
we're gonna take this quarterback because we want to take
care of our quarterback room for the next ten years.
That's just stupid. This is the Falcons getting getting two
full of themselves thinking we're the smartest guys in the room.
Look at us, win the draft and we get a quarterback. Now, yeah,
you may have a quarter back for the next for
seven to ten years, but maybe not if you're wrong.
You know how much this sets the team back because

(13:06):
as years go on, you're not drafted the quarterback because
you're waiting for Michael Penix, waiting for Michael Penix, waiting
for Michael Penix. There's nothing in this move that is correct.
There's nothing in this move that's correct for the Falcons.
I get why Kirk Cousins is mad. I get why
the players are mad. I don't know how happier said
Raheem Morris is, but he can't be that happy. I'm
sure he wants a player because he knows he's not

(13:26):
gonna be around by the time Michael Pennix Junior becomes
a quarterback. I just there's nothing right about this move
by the Falcons, and it's the biggest and there's a
reason why it's gonna be really hard for anybody to
get on the other side and go I really like
what the Falcons did. Let me look at the clicks
on Twitter, look at this, and look everybody telling me
I'm an idiot. Oh I love that.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, no, I'll tell you how they're gonna make that
argument right now. First off, go back to the Packers.
I defended the Jordan Loves selection when we came on
that night, and I defend it now because you'd had
situations whereby you had a team that was a team
that could win and Aaron Rodgers has gotten hurt. Remember
when you had to go to Huntley? Remember that year?

(14:04):
Great start? Yeah, sure, and then it went to hell,
you know, kind of like your Jets last year. But well,
because we kept that. The other thing is, you know,
Jordan Love at that point was like twenty one and
a half as opposed to he's twenty four going on
twenty five, and now we're gonna wait another three years
potentially to kick the can down the road. But the
argument people will make is you've got a team that's

(14:24):
assembled and is ready to win. You brought in Darnell Mooney,
you already had Drake London, you already had Kyle Pitts.
So thinking that Kirk Cousins brings the best out of him,
Rondell Moore and remember Bjohn Robinson. This was the best
joke of it all. Hey, for the second year in
a row, the Falcons drafted a guy they're not going
to use. So you had Bjehn Robinson and Tyler Oldgy
year there. So Captain Kirk mid thirties coming off a

(14:48):
big injury, looking around the division and saying, if Captain
Kirk either isn't ready to go or he gets hurt again,
we got a guy that's gonna be learning and gonna
be ready to be plugged in. That's how they're making
the argument is looking at the rest of the division
really saying he's going to be able to be that
guy if they need him to be.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
So that's the argument.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
But remember you gave Kirk Cousins one hundred and sixty
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Dollar cost averaging sixty you're not paying Panics that much
and as as we know from draft day, it doesn't
count against the cab at.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Seven million dollars will help our salary cap problems. Wait a,
go shy McBride working on my Shy McBride. If that
was pretty good, Yeah, that would help us all of
those salary caps. Tell me you didn't watch it at
least once. I watched last night. Yeah, and you know,
I forgotten my favorite line is. I'm like, okay, because
there's so many great one liners. But I think my
favorite line, because I watch it today, is when they
bring Frank Langela to the draft and you know he's

(15:41):
gonna sit at the table where the people helping the introduced.
They go, hey, hey, uh, here's you know, so and
so is helping us jumping numbers.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
So and so he's helping us.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Great, great, great, and Frank Lnjela goes on, I'm not
sitting here. No, no, no, no, you're with the cush here,
you're you're in the lounge. Yeah, just tell me, nods
at both those people and goes I'm not sitting here
and point like this about exit out by a Fresco
exit Swallen Doll. We're just getting started with the Falcons
and Kirk Cousins. The move makes it, doesn't make it.

(16:09):
You're trying to win. Now, you sign a thirty five
year old quarterback, you gave him a lot of money,
but no, now you really I'm telling you, I want
to see. I want to see who really really leans
into that tomorrow as he really leans and I'll hit
you with a fast ball. You're gonna have a You're
gonna have the stitches marking up your arm like they

(16:30):
do in it. Oh, I'm just gonna bounce off by triceps.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
So it's fine.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So we'll have more on that and the other big
questionable move on the metal stand tonight from Round one
of the NFL Draftkeeper right here, Jason said Mike Harmon,
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(17:59):
we get to the bit of the metal stand of
the the three most questionable ridiculous things in the first
round of the NFL Draft, let me just say this
because also on the middle stand, we talked about the
Bills trading with the Chiefs, which is just stupid. You
know it's bad enough. They didn't, Like I said, it's
bad enough, they didn't draft the wide receiver when they
have a crying need for one, right because they don't

(18:20):
have body, right, I mean, that's what you need and
say no, no, we're gonna trade out of the first
round entirely, Like what the hell is going on? Suddenly again,
I feel great about winning the AFC east Man Jets
Jets Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets Jets, Yeah, I feel great,
But like you trade with the Chiefs, I'm like, Okay,
you know what, you couldn't just keep you know, you
couldn't just screw yourselves, right, You couldn't say, hey, you
had to screw everybody else too. You had to screw

(18:41):
me and my team, and the Packers fans and the
forty nine Ers fans and the Dolphins fans and everybody else,
everybody out just screw everybody else by say oh, we're
gonna trade with the Chiefs. Just if you're gonna screw
your team, stick to yourselves, right, don't don't don't get
outside your sandbox and screw other teams because now, okay, now, oh,
now I got to look at the Chiefs and go
this is the best wide receiver him they've had in years. Okay, great,

(19:02):
thanks a lot, Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna quote the the late great Matthew Perry
as Chandler bing, I'm going down. I'm taking all of
you with me. Could that be any more of a
stupid pick? So if my my run I'm trying to
win not only a division challenge towards a Super Bowl
appeiance is gonna go to hell, I'm taking all of

(19:24):
you with Why how about a mass conspiracy right here?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Why did you do that? Look?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Why why are they fixing things for the Chiefs? Eight
seven seven?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Xavier Worthy may wind up being great, he may wind
up being kidarious Tony, but he's got a great pedigree.
And there are great wide receivers coming, Like got five
or six wide receivers. Nothing else.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Your safety has to pay attention to him streaking down
the field.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Why the Bill? What what are the Bills doing? If
we can't win the Super Bowl, you can't win it either?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Like?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Like maybe that's you're saying with them, Hey, we're we
are window is closed. We have ruined Josh Allen's career,
but now we're ruining yours.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Like you, like you, like you.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Hey, if you can rise up from the last place,
you're cool.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
We're out.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like who was the college football coach they said that
about a couple of years ago, like a guy that
was like five and five or six and five, five hundred,
he approaching a big school. And the big quote was, Hey,
this guy can ruin his season, and he can ruin
your season like he can be He could suck and
beat his own team, but he can beat your team.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Sure play spoiler. Just good enough to be dangerous, right,
we say that all the time. Right, you have a
little bit of knowledge about something, I'm good enough to
potentially really screw this up if it goes south. And
that's exactly what the Bills did today. I'd love to
hear their explanation tomorrow. I mean, they can't do Frank Langelo,
we had a great day.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, No, they can't.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
They can't lie to anybody.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Son Sonny is gonna talk to me. I'm gonna be
back in the headquarters in an hour and a half.
He will talk to me that My planes leaving Teterborough
in a half hour. Uh, okay, so you're going to
the draft.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
No, I'm going to Spider Man, keep on, you know,
turn off the dark.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So metal stand. We have the bills and the trade
with the Chiefs. We have the Falcons and ridiculously taking
Michael pennixter Right now, we have this and I've been
waiting for this one because I've been waiting to give
you this. Chris Berman won right, waiting to give you this.
How would Chris Berman announce this pick? The Chargers take

(21:29):
Joe Alt offensive tackle at number five, right, great player,
great player. But I would say something like this and TJ,
I'd like to hit control Alt delete on this pick
for the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
TJ.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I really would, because what did I tell you last night?
I was scared the most for the Chargers. They would
screw up their draft because they need a wide receiver
more than anything. They don't have anyone, and their best
player is Justin Herbert. I'm not saying anything that is
not true. Their best player is Justin Herbert. Their number
one need is wide receiver because they have nobody, nobody.

(22:10):
But my fear was if they don't take Marvin Harrison
Junior or Romodunze or elite neighbors, if they don't get
a big game breaker at five This tells me not
that okay, we'll get some back, but when this is
your number one need, this tells me that my biggest
fear for Jim Harbaugh is coming true. That they're gonna
play hardball ball, which means it's gonna be the Michigan

(22:32):
offense where they're gonna try to run the ball with
a couple of running backs and they're going to deemphasize
the quarterback position, which is really weird that Harbaugh talks
about how great JJ McCarthy was, because maybe he'll let
them throw more passes if he really believed in them.
But the Charger are now going to say, hey, we're
gonna put the ball on our offensive line and two
Jag running backs, right, because that goes Look JK. Dobbins

(22:52):
can't stay healthy. Gus Edwards, he's a Jag. But this
is how they're gonna win because Hardball's scheme is going
to do it. And I knew that if they didn't
take a wide receiver, you know, now this is what
they're gonna do. They're gonna try to run the football
a ton, and all of a sudden, justin Herbert's pass
attempts are gonna go way down and they're gonna minimize
a contribution from their best player. Tell me when that's
worked for anybody in the NFL. Where who's your best player? Yeah,

(23:16):
we're gonna put less on his shoulders. Wait what, Yeah,
we're gonna do that. Well, I don't know that that's
gonna work. Yeah, we're gonna do it because we haven't
won this way. This is my way. And schemover player
on offense is a horrible choice. Defense. Yes, you can
scheme over player on defense. You can find a lot
of guys. You know, you had a rotation on defense
with the defensive line. You can find guy.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You can do that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Scheme over player on defense. There's enough talent out there.
But offense is about the players and the playmakers, and
when you get a great one, that's the guy you
got to ride. And you can't scheme over player on offense.
Look at what happens. Look at what happens with the Jets. Right,
scheme over player. We're gonna run the same offense with
Zach Wilson. We're gonna run with Aaron Rodgers. Hey ain't
gonna work. Why because Zach Wilson's not Aaron Rodgers. What happened.

(23:57):
The Jets were so unbelievably godly all on offense. You
can't do that. But yet that's what's hardball. Seems like
he's gonna do. I knew that pick. I'm going, Okay, hey,
it's great. You picked an offensive line and that's great.
And Justin Herbert can sit back and say, wow, they
got to protective for me, and that's great, Yes, awesome.
But he needs somebody to throw the football too, and
he's going he's really gonna succeed to go from Keen Allen,
Mike Williams to Quinton Johnston and maybe Charlie Joyner, John Jefferson,

(24:21):
Kellen Winslow Senior. I mean, that's gonna work.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
I think Gates can still run a couple of five,
and Al Malcolm Floyd is gonna come back that his
toes will. I mean that the rest of them might.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
That tells me that I am out on the charges
right now. Well, I'm so out on Harbaugh and the charges.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Now. We talked about your fear yesterday and it came
to fruition a lot of smoke over the course of
the day as to whether they get an offer good
enough to trade back. Now they do pick thirty seventh,
So we're gonna see them in pretty short order here
in the second round. And there's still plenty of value
at wide receiver. Yeah, not one of those three heavyweights

(24:56):
jumping off the board. But to some of the logic
in this why you know, in my half assed dart
throwing competition, I had them taking Latham thinking, right tackle,
maybe you re signed Pipkins because you like him, but
you don't love him. You move him inside or he's available,
and then you bring in Latham instead, they go for
alt the more celebrated of the two, with his notre

(25:20):
name and all American nods and all of that fun stuff.
But the idea of if we're gonna win, Justin Herbert
has to stay up right. I need to have a
guys to throw him to throat you, no question about it.
But in the end, if he's on his ass or
it gets knocked out, we're not going anywhere. And you
had the reclamation projects coming out of Baltimore that you

(25:41):
signed to your backfield. Austin Eckler's gone, so power running
and the protector for Justin Herbert. Thinking there's an active
marketplace for wide receivers, right, not just the ones you
got rid of, right, you traded Keenan Allen and Mike
Williams went away, and now you can replace that, cause
there's plenty of dissatisfied and salty wide receivers. Because that

(26:03):
was the other talk of the day. That was the
thing I was most surprised about. The only veteran wide
receiver news we got was aj Brown getting a giant bag. Otherwise,
a lot of speculation of guy's getting dealt he hasn't happened.
He's twenty seven, He's gotten three huge contract for him.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Something's a wizard like that. And to be disgrundled.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, all sorts of reports that you are a pain
in the assid might have been a problem oh for
your team sinking in the second half, and yet you
still get a ninety four million dollar extension. That guy's
on my metal standard Heroes of the day, but legitimately
talking about the forty nine ers wide receivers made so
many of the veterans Courtland Sutton, even though Denver says, eh,

(26:44):
we're not gonna maybe maybe if the price is right,
you're there. And again you've got two picks coming up here.
In short order thirty seven and then I think like
sixty sixty nine. So there you go round three. So
still some value in the draft board that you think
maybe you can find a guy or two to help
on men things.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But I really that's that's the need, that's the need
that there's no bigger need they had than wide receiver, none,
because they let everybody you're talking about, Joshua Palmer and
Quenton Johnston are your two guys, and Joshua Palmer is
just a guy, and Quentin Johnson was awful last year,
like one of the biggest wide receiver busts in recent history. Awful. Now,
maybe you see the puff pieces working this offseason. You know,

(27:27):
you know, when you work hard is great. Catch the
ball in the game, that's what that's catch the ball
in the game. That's so that's what I think about. Hey,
you know what, can you show me you can catch
the ball in the game. Oh no, you can't do
that till September. Okay, got it, got it, Okay, show
me catch ball in the game. I mean, that was
one of the all time worst seasons by a wide receiver.
It was awful. And this week you're gonna go in
with which again, which tells me they don't care because

(27:48):
this is the offense that hardball is gonna run. Because
he thinks I'll put my Michigan offense out there and
will beat Washington, we'll beat Alabama. But yeah, not gonna work.
Not when you don't take advantage of your best player,
and Justin Herbert is your best play. You know what
we're gonna get to do it about a month's time?
What's that play the schedule game?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
When loss? When can they bully this team around? Maybe? Yeah,
it's coming soon enough.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Dashingal holiday oh Man twitter it out about a Fresco
Mike gets swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmen live from the tire rack dot
Com studios. Now to a guy who we thought was
gonna go in the first round tonight, but he has
slipped entirely out, so he's doing updates for us tonight
and maybe comes off the board early tomorrow. In the
second round. It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
It's gonna be Ada and I Mitchell kool Aid mckinstrey
and then.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Me, Yeah, there you go a metal stand baby, do
you want to get picked before? After Kool Aid, Like,
what what do you want?

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Like, yeah, it's gonna be a mess afterwards, because kool
aid doesn't he always break through the wall.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, it stains y. Yeah, you can actually use that
to dye your hair. No, my kids used to do that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
You cannot get cool. You get kool aid in something,
you may as well just pour the rest of it
on there and make it look like you did it
on purpose. Dye your hair blue, rat or purple. It's
a tight ight shirt. Really, Yeah, what'd you tighty with
kool Aide?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Okay, great. People are hearing that and saying, oh yeah. Meanwhile,
I hear that.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Jj McCarthy is the first Michigan quarterback taken in the
first round of an NFL draft since Jim Harborough, quarterback
from Michigan taken by No not the Jets. Vikings moved
up a spot at number ten to take McCarthy, and
also twelve, a quarterback was selected Oregon's bow Nicks by
the Denver Broncos, which meant we had six quarterbacks taken

(29:31):
in the top twelve tonight. So Stuart Mandel from The
Athletic point out that after the first round ended, seventy
five percent of the first rounders tonight or from schools
that will be in the Big Ten or the SEC
this fall. My first reaction is, I think seventy five
percent of the college football team starting next year in
the Big Ten or the SEC.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You think there'll be a separate NFL draft next year
for just Big ten SEC players. Then the next week, Hey,
these are for all the other guys coming in.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
It's the equivalent of that new tournament that's going to
replace the NIT. Yeah, kind of like that. Seven wide
receivers were taken in the first round. That ties the record.
No running backs yet taken in this draft, By the way,
that hasn't happened but once in the last decade, when
Breece Hall was the first running back selection a couple
of years ago when he went thirty sixth overall. But

(30:22):
the top three were quarterbacks as expected, USC's Caleb Williamston
the Bears, LSUQB Jayden Daniels to Washington, North Carolina quarterback
Drake May to New England. Also, quarterback Michael Pennix from
Washington went to the Atlanta Falcons at eight overall, and
then Washington receiver Roma Doonze to the Bears at nine Overall,

(30:42):
things wound up with a couple of wide receivers late
first round, San Francisco getting Florida Gators receiver Ricky Pearsol
and then South Carolina Xavier Lagette went to Carolina, which
traded up for that. The Eagles gave wide receiver aj
Brown a three year extension worth eighty four million dollars guaranteed.
As for MLB action, the late game had Oakland beating

(31:03):
the Yankees three to one in New York. Dodgers Today,
a two to one winner at Washington, the win to
Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the save to Evan Phillips his seventh year
under one at Kansas City, a five inning game due
to rain Royal's edge Toronto two to one. NHL Playoffs,
Florida and Carolina each one on the road, each up
three games to none in first round series, Florida with

(31:24):
a five to three win at Tampa Bay and two
seed Carolina with a three to two victory at the Islanders.
In the NBA playoffs, things started with Orlando dominating Cleveland
one twenty one to eighty three, worst playoff loss in
Cavs history. In fact, Orlando led by forty three in
the fourth quarter, So the Cavaliers lead in this first
round series is two games to one. Then Philadelphia got

(31:45):
fifty points from Joel Embiid and beat New York one
twenty five to one. Fourteen. Nicks lead the series two
games to one and Denver's up three games to none.
They've just beaten the Lakers in LA in imagine this
another comeback one twelve one oh five. Lakers get out
to an eight to nothing lead. They're up twelve first
half and good start to the second half of the
Nuggets and the Lakers, I mean the Nuggets were not

(32:07):
good from three point range five of twenty eight. Lakers
were five of twenty seven, including some makes late. But
for the longest time, no Laker guard had made a
three pointer.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
They had won three in the first half.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
At one point, the guards were oh of thirteen from
long distance. As the Lakers are on the verge of elimination,
can we just say out loud? Lebron James has had
six seasons as a Laker. Notably was Finals MVP when
they won the title in the Bubble in twenty twenty,
but the year before that, under five hundred missed the playoffs. Entirely,
and the year after that out in the first round,

(32:42):
and the year after that a couple of years ago,
missed the playoffs entirely, swept by the Nuggets. Last year,
could be swept by the Nuggets first round. This year
four out of his six years as a Laker could be,
to say the least, not worth writing home about.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Arman, live from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. Yeah, we'll have some more in
the NBA coming up in a bit. Again, the Laker.
We told you the Laker season was over after Game two.
This is just telling you even more it's over.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Hey, Diangelos scored as many points as I did tonight.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's good he did. And the thing is, you have
a better shooting percentage I did. You didn't take a shot, right,
you didn't take a shot at all. But coming up next,
one of the biggest things that happened in the draft
tonight was a team that didn't take a quarterback. That's next,
Radio Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Now I'm just picturing Andy serkis dancing to this, Jennifer
Garner getting Mark Rufflow to get up there and dance
with her. Maddie, come on, Maddie, come on Fox Sports
Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Now,
before we get back into the NFL Draft, let me
just say this. Lakers lose to the Nuggets there down

(33:59):
three zip. This is gonna be the night the Lakers
look back on in the offseason and go, you know,
that's the night we decided we had to trade D'Angelo
Russell and other stuff to get a third star this offseason,
Like this is the night when he realized, okay, we
have to get off the d'angela Russell ride. We thought
he was gonna be great, and certainly he's you know,
sometimes he shows that he's good and sometimes he's just awful.

(34:20):
The guy doesn't score it all tonight, zero for seven
from the floor they need. That's the only thing left
for the Lakers to do is to bring in that
third star to play with Lebron and ad and it
would be D'Angel Russell and more to get it done.
But if D'Angel Russell was the guy they were waiting
on och we trenched we not know tonight's night where
you go, Okay, we can't go forward this next year.
We need a big change.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well, the other thing they obviously need to do is
find whoever leaked that Darvin ham whiteboard video that was
making the rounds because I know you saw it. Yeah,
where he kind of scribbles a few things in the
corner and then he's pondering x's and o's while he's
shouting something incoherently.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Not a good look coming off of.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
The back and forth that you had maybe was shouting
at after he made shouting out his crypto passwords could
have been it might have been more effective. Because the
other thing is in the second half of games, Michael
Malone is owning them, right. He made the jokes about
adjustments after game two, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
We really haven't had to go to any of that.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, no adjustments, We just we just make more shots
and decide we want it more. So again, remember that
seems to be enough right now, that doesn't it. Tonight's
that night for the Lakers. Now in the NFL Draft sight,
we saw some surprise. It was a great night. We
saw controversy. Maybe the biggest surprise early for me was
the Giants passing on JJ McCarthy. Like it was when

(35:38):
that pick got there, I said, this is how it
works for the blankety blank Giants. It just works out
for them. Oh, they were going to try to trade up.
They love JJ McCarthy. McCarthy said, today, Oh, I'm pretty
sure I know where I'm going. I spent so much
time with the Giants. I'm like, well, at least the
Giants le have to trade up. Nope, Nope, nope. The
Giants take Malik Neighbors and they don't take JJ McCarthy.
And I was stunn because I thought, well, this is

(35:59):
the guy. Not that I would have been unhappy. You know,
I don't think JJ McCarthy's gonna be any good, but like,
this was the most stunning move. But honestly, it's gonna
be better off for the Giants because you paid Daniel
Jones a lot of money and you want to get
him some weapons. Okay, great Neighbors is pretty good. Right,
You got to replace webs because you, let's say, Kwan
Barkley go and who knows how good Wandale Robinson really is.

(36:22):
You have a lot of jags there. You need to
make sure you get weapons on offense. And I love
that move. But more so than that, if you said
to me, why didn't the Giants take McCarthy, Why didn't
they take him? They spend so much time with the guy,
and there's no way it's a smoke screen because they
didn't trade out it. They didn't. Why didn't they take him?
It comes down to this, because sometimes optics are a

(36:43):
big thing. It was just four years ago the Giants
moved way up in the draft to take Daniel Jones,
who was a very polarizing prospect. What happened has not
worked out to the point where now it's maybe, yeah,
we're paying him, but boy, maybe now we have to
replace him because us that's how they got Daniel Jones.
They couldn't do the same thing for JJ McCarthy. That

(37:05):
sends a message to the organization, to the players, to
the fans of just malaise. We got it wrong the
last time by doing this, so we're gonna do it again. Sometimes,
even if even even it turns out to be the
right thing, when you make a mistake one time, you
can't do the same thing again. It's like, it's like
if we if we sign a quarterback in free agency

(37:29):
and we miss right, the next time that team needs
a quarterback, they're not going back into free agency. They're
gonna draft somebody.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And same thing.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
If a team drafts somebody doesn't work out a quarterback,
guess what they're gonna go and gut somebody in front.
But but you're not gonna You're not gonna you're not
gonna repeat what could be the same mistakes. It's okay,
well we did this, we did this free agency. It
didn't work for us a quarterback, So now we're gonna
draft somebody. Boy, we just drafted somebody for three years.
It didn't work. We need the quicker fix. We can't

(37:56):
tell fans now we're getting it right with a new quarterback.
So you could see it all again. You lose patience,
the team loses patients, and then and malaise kind of
sets in. Had the Giants not done that, had the
Giants that Daniel Jones obtained him someplace else wherever it was, yeah,
they would have taken JJ McCarthy there. But they couldn't
risk it being too similar, making the same mistake and

(38:17):
having that be something that haunts the Giants because that
bick is still haunting the Giants all these years later.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Well, I don't think you could be fearful one. Your
roster has turned over almost ninety percent. I would think
if we went and looked and compared what they are,
are there anybody? Is there anybody left on that squad
from four years ago? Five guys maybe, yeah, but the
guys on the team now know what they did. They
went he had this guy now had a couple of
years where Daniel Jones has had fairly significant injuries. It's

(38:45):
not just he couldn't play, it's dude got hurt and
we're talking neck injuries. So to say, hey, we're gonna
go and move on and draft another guy, okay, I
mean you're just covering your Basescuz right now you got
a guy who's had a couple of very serious injuries,
and yes, you paid him. But if this is the

(39:06):
draft where whereby you thought the quarterback needed to be addressed,
you addressed and like bringing the neighbors, and you know,
you get a speedster, you get a guy who's accomplished,
and you start to reset that part of the roster.
Unlike the chargers who.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Drafted in front of you.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
But if you're deciding Daniel Jones is your guy and
you're beholden to the cash that's been laid out, then yeah,
you gave it one more try by building up the
roster there.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
But I don't think you could be scared. You can't
play scared. No, it's not scared, it's just going, can
we can we make that mistake when obviously you're not
sure if he really was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, Also I missed everybody off by letting Saquon Barclay
go to Philadela.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well that's the other part, right, But this goes to
show you really what teams thought of JJ McCarthy that
he wound up going eleventh. He wasn't one of the
first three, and that shows you where the line of
demarcation was. There were the three guys everybody liked, and
there were the rest of the other three that went
later on. Because if they really liked those guys, they
would have gone three, four or five. Somebody would have
traded up, they would have taken them there. So not

(40:06):
only that, but you see that about McCarthy that well, boy,
they spent so much time with him and they didn't
draft him, so they shows you they really, we really
didn't think he was the guy. They liked him, but
they didn't love him. It's like it's like maybe that's
what happened, was like a draft day thing. No one's
taking bow Bo's falling in the draft.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Come in here.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You're not gonna believe it.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Carthy's birthday, McCarthy's falling in the draft. Sent back that
one hundred dollars bill. Drake may set that hundred dollars
bill back.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Exit out Vala Fresca exit swelling Don Coming up next,
the quarterback move of the first round that I liked
the most, Plus Ferris. What the selection of Jade and
Daniels means about Caleb Williams. Wait what, No, that's next
right here, Jason and Mike Happy Draft night, Fox Sports Radio,
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