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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon continue their recap of the ongoing NFL Draft and what to make of the best and worst moves so far.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy Friday, Day two of the
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(00:49):
I'd like to call Day two of the Draft Melday. Okay,
I like to call it Melday because watching the Draft
Day one, everybody's cla ammering for all kinds of video
time and faced Hey, we're talking about the quarterbacks and
people that we know, and I want to tell you
I'm gonna be the one guy to tell you why
I think Michael Pennick Junior was a great picking ideas

(01:11):
what I think about bone Nicks ay that. But then
you get outside the first round and it's all players
that nobody heard of it. Instead, it's really quiet on
that ESPN set, and it's basically Berman or Greenbrook or
River going. And for the latest pick in the draft,
we have the Alabama Crimson Tide taking jumping knucklehead billy

(01:33):
out of Alabama. Mel and like, that's that's all you hear?
Is just it's pretty good? Yea three more picks to
come in. Oh ah, it is very much, very much
James Marshall from a few good men. Yeah, here it comes,
and it's center Zach Frazier from West Virginia to Pittsburgh.
Mel like, we're not even gonna try, you're gonna try

(01:55):
to tell you. I know this guy is not. Everybody
else just sitting around going, yeah, I've got him on
my phone. I'm fine. And then Mel Kuiper just goes
because he's watched video of Zach Frasier for like the
last three weeks. I watched his kid for the entire
run of his life. Here's what he does at center,
Here's what I like and then they go, Okay, that's
great Dad. Then okay, next pick, yeah, uh Ohio State
defensive tackle Michael Hall junior. Mel And that's every single

(02:18):
Mel Mel Mel, Now nobody else gets to talk. Nobody
else wants to talk. No, no, Hey, can we go
back to a guy I've heard of? Because I really
have a really, really piping hot take. I want to
make Yeah, well in a second, in a second.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Review what they did in the first round. Remember when
they made that pick in the first round.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wait, but the picture coming fast. Here's Safety Coal Bishop
out of Utah. Mel And it's it's Melday, I mean
because Bano's cook a bunch of that bino cookie saw
that one of the best lines ever in the history
of sports. He, you know, Mel would talk about how,
uh he worked all the time. You know, Mel works
all the time. Nobody watches more film than Mel his basement.

(02:53):
I mean, he and I were really close when I
was when I was working at ESPN, and we talked
all the time, and he would tell me all this,
you know, all this stuff that he did, and this
is what he did. He would watch, he would watch
an entire season's worth of Hey, here's a guy that
could be one of the top ten centers taken. So
I'm gonna watch film of this guy's whole year, right,
like that's what he does and uh and then you know,
and then Beano Cook would driving Craig because Bent Melon

(03:15):
Bino were really close, and Bino would say, you know,
he likes to sit there and talk about how hard
he works. The guy is like Santa Claus. He works
one day a year, and he wants you to think
that all look at all it's taken out of me.
And then no, but Bino pet you know, come on,
you were making up half of these guys that are
taken in the draft anyway, you didn't want you could

(03:36):
say anything about these guys. He's a wide body, he's
got a quick first step. Oh, it was just genius.
He's Santa Claus work one day a year.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That might be the best line I've heard, but it's
guerl I mean, look, if you're a draft expert, and
obviously a bunch of guys that are draft analysts, you
know whatever the network, they have other jobs of the
responsibility in the football love and world, and maybe like referees,
they have other jobs on the side.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
But you know, when it comes down to draft time,
if you are being put up as the draft expert,
you better damn well know who the these at least
a bunch of these guys are. Once we get to
round six or seven, then hey, all bets are off, man,
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Then we can.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Guess a little bit, uh and just go back to
the you know, best available stuff. But yeah, even yesterday
and we we had a number of guys selected to
where it's like, all right, let's make sure we get
the pronunciation key out when you start talking about you know,
Sam Owen players and some of the guys you know
where their surnames might create a little bit of a challenge. So, yeah,

(04:44):
everybody having to do a little extra work this year.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Smith Mel Mel Met Mel Mel, Melt Mel. Don't go
to the bathroom, Melt, stay here, Melt. We got Melt Mel, Melt,
stay here. Now do you see the name on that card.
You're really gonna need.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
To explain something to I mean, obviously, I know you're
excited because at the top of the third round, Malachi
Corley coming out of Western Kentucky at five eleven, fire
Plug two oh seven, Robert Sala with his quote quote,
if you had a relative standing at the goal line,
he'd run him over to Yeah, there we go, well

(05:20):
the guy you need it alongside Bresaw.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Look what I like to what I like to see
right for team's Day two of the draft. I'll be
honest with Look, a lot of players. Look, you're not
as familiar with them, obviously, but information has come so
far in the past few years where now you can
get anything you want pre draft, post draft analysis. I'd
tip your fingers on every player. And yes, when you
get into the second or third round, you like to
think you know, but it's a dart throw, right. What

(05:43):
I like to see is when teams get to the
second and third round, are they satisfying indeed, because you
know you get You can't to sit here and say
you can't do best available player in the second round,
because that could be any one of a bunch of guys.
So when I see the Jets take a wide receiver, okay,
I'm happy about that. When I see the Chargers take
a wide receiver because they biffed it by not taking
a wide receiver yesterday, I'm kind of happy about that. Now,
who knows that these guys turn out, but at least

(06:04):
they're satisfying needs. And that's kind of what I like
to see in the in the draft, in the second
and third round. Okay, here's the thing, because look, six
seven good wide receivers come out of the draft every year. Now.
It's like it's like the most plentiful tree you could
have in your backyard that just always bears fruit, whether
it's lemons or apples or something else that's oh, this
is you always get wide receivers come out of the
draft now in bunches, like they get off a bus

(06:26):
and go, we're all here. We're all ready to be
really good in the NFL. I'll tell you, the wide
receiver position is fantastic. I love teams waiting unless you
need really had to take one, like you were the Chargers.
But I love waiting a little bit because you don't know.
Maybe a guy like Malachai Corley is gonna be as
good as a guy taken in the first round. Maybe not.
Maybe he's as good as Keon Coleman, maybe not. Maybe
Keon Coleman is as good as Roma dunes A maybe not.

(06:47):
But there's a lot of guys there in the first
two three rounds. They are gonna be really good receivers
in the NFL because we see it every single year.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I was exciting to see the Bills draft to wide
receiver and a guy that everybody knew that name because
it was oh, he's been drafted yet.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I saw a lot of them play last year. He
was he was like he was like met against boys
last year was oh man keon Coleman, he's on forget it. Yeah,
nine catches, one hundred and forty seven yards, two touchdowns.
That's it. We're done well.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And then you see teams go back to, you know,
some of the identity of who they are. Right when
you see the Ravens at the bottom of the second round,
they get Rosen Garden. He was a guy that was
expected towards the back end of the first. So you know,
we start talking about value versus boards versus needs, uh
and all of that how.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It plays out.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know, today it was funny watching folks do there,
you know, after sleeping on it the mic.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh yeah, nix.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But you know, I came up with the perhaps the
greatest thing for Kirk Cousins to try to explain it.
So if we can hit the music for a second,
Patrick and Mary music.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Now you've got music tonight. Oh boy, here we go three.
You guys had to rehearse this before the show. Yeah,
we probably should have needed to rehearse as why did
do you guys just give me a heart at time?
Rehearsing is very good. Well, apparently Harmon's ask from inside
I had a thought communication and it wasn't there, and
you needed to rehearse. Gota rehearse.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I needed to bring her in. You got her lit
On Patrick, I'm gonna blame him and is split.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, no, but he blames you. Come on, come on, no, no, yeah, wait,
come on, wait a minute. Lebron James here has to
take responsibility for missing a shot. So you got just basketball.
It's just basketball. What do you want from it's your fault?
Take response, hey, doc Rivers, take responsibility that.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
You you just take saying it's my Middleton hit that shot.
We would have been tied going to double ot all right,
hit it, never mind, Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
We're done. We're done with that. Now we're done.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So I started thinking about the Crossroads and how it's
really appropriate for Kirk Cousins right because of the way
his career started as the second draft pick. You know,
quarterbacks selected in that draft are RG three. And then
they go back for Kirk Cousins and we were all
asking what the hell are they doing? And then RG
three has his issues, a lot of conspiracy theories of

(09:05):
how they were trying to force him back on the
field because they wanted Kirk Well, he was never right again.
Kirk Cousin gets his role, starts to become that guy
can't come to a contract agreement. So we have some hiccups,
some fights, some infighting with the team, but he gets
too massive massive franchise tag deals. Right fine, then he

(09:27):
elevates and he's still going. They can't come to a deal.
After the two years it's done. He goes to Minnesota,
does he get a ton of guaranteed money winning once again,
but they can't get.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Over the top.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Some horrific losses mixed therein, and then finally he goes
to Atlanta. What happens full circle. He hasn't even taken
a snap for them, He's thrown out a couple of
ceremonial first pitches, and now there's a guy waiting and
looking over his shoulder.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
The devil has come for his due.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
He went down to the Crossroads, had some little hiccups
along the way, piled up some cash, some wins and
some stats, and now it's come full circle.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
There you go. I will say I was well thought out, lucid,
intelligent observation. All I could think of is a how
you blew the music the first couple times around. Secondly,
boy would have liked for you to use Stevie VI's
Crossroads from the End for the Battle against Ralph match.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, I forgot to ask for the music early, early, yeah,
And then I thought we had enough grab ass off
the top here talking about what we like. Day two,
the fact you blew White Sox are winning, even though
in his update Disager was really snarky, and the White
Sox are winning. The reflection of the voice said it all, Uh, yeah,
I blew it. I'll take don't obfuskate, Doc, you blew it. Okay,

(10:45):
take the loss. You blew it, Doc.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I mean that's good, Arthur Hammer, Doc. At this point,
it's just radio. It's just radio. If we're not doing anything,
it's just it's just it's just radio. It's just radio.
The Jason Show with Mike Harmon Lode from the tire
Rack Dot Studios, So we'll keep you posting any more
big names coming up in the NFL draft. Apparently now
it's all about Blake Korum if he will wind up
getting selected at some point. A lot of Michigan guys

(11:09):
at the top of the list, and I'm sure Jim
Harbaugh wants to take all of them, but didn't take
Blake Korum took one of his linebackers instead. Meanwhile, in
the NBA playoffs, Mavericks lead the Clippers right now going
to the fourth quarter seventy eight sixty seven. Meanwhile, speaking
of Doc Rivers, the Pacers win Game three over the
Bucks today in a game had started at nine to

(11:30):
forty five am one twenty one to one eighteen. How
many people came home from work going wait, what is
this a replayment? Really? This game started at five point thirty?
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Man?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
This really started at five that? Yes it did. Pacers
win in overtime. A thriller, great game. Yes, you talked
about Middleton forty two points, but the miss and then
tyrese Aliburton the floater and end one at the end
of overtime to give the Pacers the two games to
one lead. You know, I hate to say I tell
it so, but but when we pick in this series
and I told you the Pacers were gonna win, and

(12:03):
I said, watch Tyres Halliburton is gonna go from the
big time NBA fans star to more of an average
fan superstar. People are gonna see a lot of what
he does. There's a reason why he's the only real
point guard on Team USA's roster, and he was phenomenal today.
He had the big winner eighteen points, sixteen assists, ten

(12:24):
rebounds of triple double for him. And now the Pacers
up two games to one in a series. If Giannis
is still out, it should go the Pacers way the
rest of the way, and Doc Rivers will once again
be explaining away a first round flame out that is
not his fault.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, and then you have the added bonus of now
we're keeping an eye on the injury status of Damian Lillard.
Played forty five minutes, six and twenty from the field for.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
That bad day shooting for him.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Man, but you know at the end of the first
quarter he had to get help back to the bench
and in the post game, now we're talking about the
Achilles Doc quote. I think it's his achilles again, so
we'll see. Honestly, he was struggling and in the overtime
he literally said, I'll be the decoy. I just can't
go out as far as explosion. So I thought, damn,
just being out there was huge for us. So Doc,

(13:08):
you know, laying that out a little bit, it was
pretty gruesome. It was about two minutes left in that
first quarter and he came down awkwardly, and you know,
immediately you hold your breath of all, right, what's what's this?
He's been struggling a little bit with that in the
past and still gut it out forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Right, He gave you minutes, and Middleton gave you some thrills,
but in the end it counts as an l Just
the same.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen
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gonna have more NBA coming up, obviously a big night
here the again, Mavericks and the Clippers early in the
fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Minnesota and Phoenix coming up at about
fifteen or twenty minutes from now. And I'll tell you
I like Phoenix going into this series. Now, I'm saying

(13:53):
to myself, they could get swept. This would be the Sun.
This could be the Sun's just getting swept. I mean,
it really could be that funny how quickly at all?
Like anybody check out three yet? Nah, they could get
really get swept. So we'll have more NBA. But coming
up next, how about a silver lining to the most
controversial draft story of the last twenty four hours. That's

(14:15):
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Speaker 3 (15:34):
So are you more inspired by the draft with Burmanism's
or the picture I sent you earlier today?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh, I don't know. It's always nice to see Yeah,
you just send me a picture of Berman today. It
always is nice to see him still active out and
seeing people. Because look, as much like to make fun
with all the Burmonism, it's one of my favorite things
to do. I'm really proud of my I'd like to
Joe control Alt delete that pick by the Chargers yesterday
was good. Yeah, I mean look, I mean the guy

(16:00):
doesn't get enough credit. The guy built the ESPN. I
mean the guy was a big superstar. Like now he's
a and now people want to talk, Oh he's a punchline,
he's this they take they've taken them jobs away. From him.
I mean, people realize what a bleeping monster that this
guy was, you know, and and still is, I mean,
still working, still doing that. But the guy built the
bleeping network and it's now it's oh as and as

(16:20):
I say this, and now I'm doing bourbon impressions all
the time on the show.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, but yours is an homage and to what the
man is, because I think that's one of the things
that just can't be uh, you know, you don't want
to understate it is what he truly meant back in
the day to the origin story of that network, and
it's been told in book form and and documentaries or whatever,
but legitimately, like he built that place, it's him and

(16:48):
Bob Lee, like like I want to see him on
the NFL Draft day and I want to see him
home run derby day, Like those are the days I
really miss him, Like, you know, I want to see
him doing the draft.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I want to see him. I want to see him
pretend like, hey, I really have insight on what this
next pick is. Meanwhile, I've known what the pick has
been for fifteen minutes now, Like when I'll say here
come the Dolphins, I'm thinking tackle the Dolphins select tackle
from Alabama, you know, like like I missed, you know,
I gotta like seeing that, but wondering if the cards

(17:19):
are telling me. Yeah. I once had a boss of
mine tell me to stop doing Burman impressions because he
didn't think people liked Burman enough. And I go, so,
why what you don't want me to do Burman?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
People people don't like that? What do you mean? People like? What?
What do you what do you mean? People who doesn't
like it? Well, I don't. I don't know if people
like him? I go, so wouldn't they like me doing
an impression? Then I don't, So I don't do don't
do it. Don't do it. And one time I remember
it was when I was working at Direct TV doing
a Fantasy Zone and I was on the air for
like seven and a half hours, seven and a half
hours a day every Sunday. Fantasy Zone was Red Zone

(17:55):
for Fantasy and it was a really fun job. I
did it for a few years. Was really cool. Now
it's gone, it's in different pace and and seven and
a half hours. And the first thing my boss tells
we get off the after seven and a half bleeping hours,
he goes because I did one Burmant impression. I did
one in seven and a half hours on the show.
I did one and it was like four seconds long,
like Cameron Brad scored a touchdown and I said, he

(18:17):
is making the Buccaneers breit again, TJ right like, and
he at first he says this, Hey, he did he
did Berman again. I'm like, dude, seven and a half hours,
I just sat in the pressure cooker seat there, and
the first thing you're gonna tell me is because I
did a Burman impression four and a half hours ago
for four seconds, people tuned away. In four seconds I
did that. They tuned away when I did that, or
when I said so, I think, you know what, it

(18:38):
might have been a Hamilton impression. I think because because
the name of one of the players was one of
the lesser known people from Hamilton. I think that's what
it was. And I did that, and I was like,
you really, people turned off the TV when I said that.
I don't know what this is. I'm turning this off.
I don't know what he's talking about. I'm like, you
gotta be kidding me, man, come on, I'm like, you're
my boss, how are you? What is What's going on
in this world? Man? Why are you? How could you? Then?

(19:02):
I had three weeks in the whole to think about it,
just like damn right. So here we are again, Night
two of the NFL Draft and big night in the
NBA playoffs eighty eight seventy. The Mavericks are pulling away
from the Clippers here in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Timberwolves
and the Sun still a few minutes away. I'll let
you know when big names get taken in the NFL Draft.

(19:22):
Been a lot of wide receivers in the second and
third round, which is awesome. And right now, Donna Ponti,
the NFL Chief Football Administrative Officer, is announcing a pick
in the draft. I used to play stickball with her brother,
and so kidding, yes, Kevin A. Ponti, he was a
year younger than me. He plays stickball all the time.
Never knew her, never knew his sister, everything else. All
of a sudden, now she's like she just blows up

(19:43):
and it's like she's like so high up in the NFL.
I used to play stickball with their brother, and I'm like,
every time I see Donna Poni, Donna Poni, Donna Piney
actually lived probably around I think I lived around the corner,
like three or four blocks over from where I grew
up in Staten Island. Yeah, here she is. She's gonna
be the next NFL commissioner after Roger Goodell. That's how
about that. That's how it's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
When's she gonna come on the show? I got lots
of questions. The thing is, I never met her. I
never I never said, well, I'm just saying, but I knew,
you know, I can't say that. I'm sure I met
her a couple of times, but like I never like
hung out with her, like I played stickball and base
I was hoping there was a better story there. Well,
I mean, well we didn't hang out a lot. This
one night when the el started popping in the background.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, you think her and I would would have would
have been an item at some point, because we get
we talk about the Jets the entire beat, the whole time.
We just talk about the Jets. It would be fantastic Jets, Jets,
Jets gets. But how about Mike and I give you
a little bit of silver lining on the most controversial
worst pick of the NFL draft so far. Of course,

(20:47):
we're talking about Michael Pennix Junior to the Falcons. Now,
wait a minute, I would want to Jason, you backtracking,
you doing what you said people are gonna do today
where they're gonna suddenly find a way to defend that
pick like Dan Orlowski did. Oh, I hated it last night,
but I will up today realizing I could trend on
Twitter and get clicks by saying I love the pick
and I love people telling me I'm an idiot.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
No, because his producer told him overnight, Yeah, he had
to come up with a reason why he liked the pick.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Dude, you guys, I don't think your arm twisting. Really,
I don't think your arm twisting. At that point, I
got to come up with something to stand out because
everybody ate boy, if I come out for this pick,
that'd be great. No, the pick stinks. It was stupid. Now,
it's not about Michael Pennix Junior. This is about the
Falcons and how they're building the team and what they
needed to pick to move on to try to win. Now,
considering you gave one hundred and sixty million dollars to

(21:34):
a thirty five year old quarterback, now here's the silver
lining is because you know, I'm not a Michael Pennock
junior fan, and most most everybody that you talk about
him have come around to the fact that, well, Wade
a minute didn't think his arm was that strong, but
after seeing him, yes, his arm is very strong. You're
worried about the medicals, Yeah, that's concerning for me a

(21:56):
little bit. Yeah, but you know, look, the guy couldn't
stay healthy. It's a big thing. But is a quarterback
that injury prone or you know, yes, it's a concern,
but it's not something that would preclude me from drafting him.
The bigger thing for me is when you get somebody
in his face. He's just a guy, right when everything
Look that Washington team was loaded last year. They're loading

(22:16):
to make it to the National Championship. They're absolutely loaded.
And every time you look at Michael Penix' year, it's like, wow,
look at this guy throw Yeah, because there's not a
defender within five yards of him. When the play goes
the way it's supposed to and he can go through
his progressions. He's a video game. But you know what,
other guys are video games too. If you give him
that much time to throw the football, other guys can

(22:37):
be video games. But when you pressure a guy, which
is oh sixty five percent of the time in the NFL,
what kind of quarterback are they? Then? And that's where
Michael Pennix Junior really really surprised me, because the Michigan
Wolverines exposed to him in the National Championship game. They
hit him. He was off, he threw it, he threw
it off balance, he threw it late, he didn't hit

(22:57):
his spots. He was bad because when he had to
figure things out and add lib a play or take
care of a play when he was under duress, he
was bad. And that's a big red flag for me.
Now I say that and you go, okay, okay, no, no, no.
But here's a silver lining for him, right because I
want to I want to say something good about him
because I want I want success for everybody that comes

(23:17):
into the NFL, unless you're playing the Jets and I
want you to lose. But this is the biggest silver
lining for him is that he has now gone to
a team where he will have a long time a
to get used to the NFL before he has to
go out there and play. In theory, now, you never know,
you're always one play away, but he has in theory.

(23:38):
He has a long time to figure it out, to
learn the playbook, to learn the NFL before they make
him throw a football and anger right before. Okay, now
you gotta get out there. You gotta sling it right.
He's gonna have time, which turned out to be the
best thing for Jordan Love. They gave him time. It
takes you a little bit when you start playing. You
don't just get it right away. But took him a
little bit of time and then he was really really good.

(23:58):
So I like that for Michael Pennick junior. He's not
gonna have to come in right away and worry about
hiding his flaws while he learns to be a quarterback
right away. He can come in and do it on
his own time. Because the guy was probably a little overdrafted.
The other part of it is guy got beat up
through his college career. Guy got beat up in the
National Championship game. If he's not playing for a while,

(24:19):
guess what his body has time to rest reset. He
continued to get into NFL workouts and maybe as he
gets stronger, because listen, you're on a much different program
in the NFL than you are in college. As he
gets stronger, maybe he can be healthier and the injury
problems are a thing of the past. The fact that
he got taken by a team that's going to allow
him to do that. That's the silver lining for Michael

(24:41):
Pennick Junior. Still an awful pick by the Falcons, but
for his career going forward, Hey, sitting for a while,
getting healthy, getting used to the NFL, getting on an
NFL program, that's a great thing for him. So for that,
I really like that part for him individually because I
think that's going to mean a bigger success for him
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, a couple things to it. I mean, we talked
about some of the particulars just from the long term
planning and discussion and all that.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's there.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Kirk's money, even though it's one hundred million dollars guaranteed,
virtually all of that's the next two years, So you
got two years in the system. And that's an argument
I used to make back when remember Maurice Clearett and
those guys challenging to come into the league. He had
the horrific injuries, Like, wouldn't you have been better served
being in an NFL strength training program to eventually ramp

(25:32):
back up instead of the nonsense they ended up doing.
Same thing here. You get in, you start working, and
you may be forced into action early. But again it's
a two year decision. We don't know where Kirk's body's
going to be, we don't know where his play's going
to be. Now, certainly you've caused some issues in that
if he struggles early, guess what.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Let's see the kid. Let's see the kid.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Get him out there. Oh wait, now he's twenty nine.
He's no longer a kid.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You get that. But it's not like Kirk Cousins is
Geno Smith, where after a decade away he had one year. No. No,
I mean, Kirk Cousins is gonna he's gonna throw thirty touchdowns.
He's gonna be a thirty and seven and you know,
forty three hundred yard guy. As long as he's healthy,
he's proven enough in the NFL. I'm not worried about
him staying it around. I think he's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, and and look, you've got one of the top
offensive lines in the league. That's the other thing that
stands well for Penix. Once he finally takes over down
the line is that what did Washington have during his
tenure there either the first or second rated offensive line,
depending on which metric you were going by, a lot
of ability to stand and wait for things to happen

(26:41):
instead of needing to take off and move laterally, which
is not obviously given the injury history his his forte
So you've got a roster that's pretty good and ready
ready to go. So yeah, I can still do the
reasons of hey, why this won't be a disaster. I
still hate it, yeah, right, And I think that's the
thing to make perfectly clear. And it's not a hate

(27:03):
of Penix at all, like I had him slaut. It's
a lot of to the Raiders. I'm like, maybe they
can then be create some chaos and become more useful
there in the West. Instead they got your guy brock Bauers,
who was shocked as hell that he ended up there.
But we'll talk about to Lasco and Roster building because
it looks like they do have a pretty good long
term plan. But it's not against Penix at all. Watched

(27:26):
him in Indiana and thought if he had better talent
around him there that he would have been able to
perform at a top notch level, and certainly the last
couple of years we've watched it, just Atlanta. You're built
with all of these assets to go win now because
eventually you got to pay all these guys too. Right,
You made your choice of Pits, Well that's coming. You
made your choice of Bjeon Robinson. You wasted a year

(27:48):
or that and eventually that comes due as well. So
you know, it's that short term thinking, which is I'm
sure what Arthur Blank was walking up to the front office,
people going, we did, what the hell are we doing?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Exit abbouta Fresca, Exit Swallen Dome, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Carmon live from the tirec
dot Com studios. So look, this is about him individually, right,
This is him individually and his chance to succeed in
the NFL. And it couldn't be a better spot for
him than to sit watch it because those are the
biggest things, right, getting used to the NFL, because he
does have to have he had to have to have

(28:25):
his game adjust a little bit. To translate, he's not
a plug and play quarterback like Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels.
Is gonna be and time to get a little bit healthy.
I mean, that's the best thing you could possibly do
now on a team like the Falcon. Now, it was
an awful pick. It was still terrible, I want to
remind you was still awful. But for him it's absolutely fine.

(28:45):
Now time to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports, where apparently every pick from now until
the end of the third round is going to be
a player from the national champion Michigan Wolverines. Blake Koram
just got drafted, Room and Wilson just got drafted. I
think Rick Lee Hea just got drafted. A couple other
guys as well. Right now, Steve Desager has the latest
on that with what's trending.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Tom Harmon has just been selected. Yeah, let's go good night,
Don actually half back.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
He was 's let's get that. He had a great
year throwing the football last year.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
He was six out of seven Heisman Harmon.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
First seventy four yards and six touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Mark Harmon. While we're at it, meanwhile, Jim Harbaugh, the
new LA Chargers head coach, did draft a Michigan Man linebacker,
Junior Colson. As we have rounds two and three of
the NFL Draft going on tonight, but in round three
as well, Michigan running back Blake korm goes to the
La Rams, and right after that, Michigan wide receiver Roman

(29:44):
Wilson to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Running back from Florida State
Trey Benson to Arizona, and earlier in round two tonight,
the first running back taken in this year's draft from
the Texas Longhorns, Jonathan Brooks to Carolina to the NBA
playoff game where Dallas is going to beat the Slippers.
Tonight four minutes to go, ninety four to seventy nine.
The lead Clips led by five going to the second quarter.

(30:06):
It has been awful for them in all regards since then.
Kawhi Leonard has nine points in the game, Paul George
just seven, Russell Westbrook oh of seven shooting from the floor,
and he's been kicked out. He had an earlier flagrant
foul and just picked up two technicals for spinning around
Luka don chez In getting tossed. It's going to be
a Dallas two games to one lead in this first

(30:27):
round series. Donzig seven of twenty four shooting from the floor.
He has twenty two points, ten rebounds, nine assists, and
five turnovers for the MAVs. The late game in just
a few minutes, Phoenix will be hosting three seed in
the West Minnesota, which is up two games to none.
In the East, Indiana leads three seed Milwaukee two games
to one after the Pacers' overtime victory over the Bucks

(30:50):
one twenty one to one eighteen Tyrese Halliburton with a
last second three point play. He had sixteen assists in
victory from three point range. He was one of twelve.
By the way, Pacers led by nineteen late in the
first quarter, blew that and one at the end of overtime. Anyway.
In the NHL Playoffs, number one New York, the Rangers
up three games to none after winning at Washington three

(31:12):
to one. Vancouver up two games to one in its
first rounder after holding on two to one at Nashville.
Even though Vancouver got out shot thirty to twelve in
this game. Avalanche have taken a one to nothing lead
late first period against the Jets and about to start
the late game Oilers at Kings. By the way, the
NFL gave players the option to wear Guardian caps over

(31:32):
the helmets during games, not just in practice. NFL players
also have twelve new helmets to choose from this season
for added safety, including eight made specifically four linemen and
quarterbacks to Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well, you want a great story about that today, ye
about the caps, About the Guardian caps. So my friend
texted me today like he was at work where he said, Hey,
what does this mean that NFL players can wear Guardian
caps during the games? And I said, oh, they're all Now,
there's a new thing in the NFL. Every year on
the sidelines, they're gonna be allowed to wear a baseball
cap of a specific team, and this year it's the Guardians.

(32:07):
And I'm putting him to write me back like you're
a jerk. Whatever he writes back, he goes, wow, how
did they pick the Guardians? First?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I thought you were gonna say it was gonna be
a Marvel tie in. Today, being the anniversary of Infinity.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
War, all the New York players are gonna have Cleveland
Guardian cabs throughout the season. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Buddy every side, both sidelines wearing Guardian caps for.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Those who see, like for example, during training camp, the
practices they wear those guardian caps over the helmets, an
extra cushion for contact, and they're mandated for contact practices
during the season and the postseason. I just want to
know how they're gonna work out, because you still have
a logo on a helmet.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Are you kidding? They're gonna be but they're gonna patch
the logo on that or you're not gonna wear the
white things.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
There no not to patch. I mean, how good is
it gonna look? I mean, I repeat, they have other
helmets to choose from, not for style, but for actually
will Steve Wallace type protection.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well you also notice how the NFL said that, yes,
we're gonna allow them to wear that, but we actually
have better helmets than that. They're gonna do just as
good a job.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Exactly, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
In other words, we really don't want them to wear
We're gonna allow it because we can't, but we got
better helmets. Actually, you can have those or the helmets
we want you to wear during the preseason because it's dangerous,
but we have better helmets with the regular season.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Do you remember when baseball let pitchers where the padded
cap in case a linebacker comes back at your forehead.
I mean, how many people are wearing those? Literally zero
this season?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right anyway?

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yankees are tied five to five at Milwaukee. Its top
of the ninth inning. The Mets did get j D.
Martinez recalled from triple A rehabby at an RBI double,
but the Mets lost at home to Saint Louis four
to two. Mets record thirteen and twelve. Dodgers won their
fifth straight twelve too at Toronto. Cubs are seventeen and
nine after a win at Boston seven to one, and
the winning pictures show to I Mionauga is four and

(33:55):
O back to you.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Thank you very much, Steve O. Just real quick, the
Michigan run is now over. In the second round of
the draft, Blake Koram goes to the Rams, Roman Wilson
to the Steelers. Zach Zinter really good offensive lineman, got hurt,
got knocked out for the season. The Browns took him,
and then Kansas ruined it by taking offensive tackle Dominic
Puney out of Kansas. I mean, come on, you got
three Michigan players. Ro keep going, man, just keep going.

(34:18):
Pretty good run though, doesn't matter. You know.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
The Steelers got their guy though. Yeah, you know, I
want to talk about some of the half ass efforts
they've gotten out of wide receivers, you know, in terms
of helping the run game the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That ain't gonna be a problem now, I'll tell you, man,
I love Roman Wilson. Look, he's a smaller guy, but
he finds a way to make big catches in traffic.
He quietly dominates. And I love Blake Korum to the
Rams because basically every running back, as long as you
have a little bit of talent, you succeed in that
RAM system. Like everybody in the Rams throw. It doesn't
matter Royce Freeman, guy's been out in the league for

(34:51):
eight years. I'm showing up running for seventy four yards
my first game. That RAM system running the football, anybody
with a little bit of talent does well, and he's
gonna be the latest guy. I love both those picks.
There's the reason why Michigan won the national title. All
these guys are getting taken. So what's going The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the tire Rack
dot Com Studios coming up next pretty sure after the

(35:11):
draft this weekend, We're going to talk about the newest
big media star in the NFL. Who is it? We'll
tell you next Jason, I'm like Fox.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. You always want to do the footloose Dance.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Big Revival in the in the house the last month
or so, the Miles Teller version of it. Now forget
about him going to promenall now we can watch in
the remake.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Oh, okay, have you told both your kids how dancing
is evil? And they dancing is awful? Don't dance?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
You know? And then I said, well, if you don't
understand the metaphors here, let me explain.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
It to you a different way. Leaping and dancing before
the Lord. Leaping and dancing before the Lord. All right. So,
while we sit here and get near the end of
round three of the NFL Draft, we're just a couple
of picks, probably about ten picks away from the end.
We saw a big run other ten Michigan players. Yeah,
another ten Michigan players to go. Marshawn Lloyd just got

(36:20):
taken by the Packers running back out of USC.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, somewhere Paul Finebaum is losing his mind because it's.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Not Alabama players.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
What the hell's happening? Yeah, because they've all transferred to Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
That's what gonna happen. So the new star you can
tell coming out of the draft is gonna wind up
being Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
We talked about him last night. He was down on
Drake May for the pick for the Patriots. He was
down on a bunch of quarterbacks, very critical and it
was fun to see him do this. It'saw a lot
of former players. I think it was Devin mccordy said, Hey,
he ever wanted to see what a film session is
like with Bill Belichick and not get called out for it.
Watch what's going on right now? This is what he
would do in film sessions. And you know, he's getting

(37:03):
a lot of popularity, and I think he's going to
be on the Pat McAfee show during the fall and
all this stuff and Bill Belichick media star. Now, let
me just say this about Bill Belichick, okay, because this
is a couple of things. Number one is that you
know he's getting so much attention for all the critical
things he has to say about quarterbacks, right, very critical

(37:24):
about doesn't like Drake may look at this guy's footwork,
Look at this, look at this. Okay. The thing is,
I'm old enough to remember him ruining mac Jones with
stuff like, well, we don't really have an offensive coordinator
because I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna give
you weapons to succeed because that's not what I do.
We kind of do things differently here, and I'm gonna
see you come in and be good as a rookie,

(37:46):
and then I'm gonna pull you and I'm gonna put
another guy in, and I'm really not going to treat
you and put you in a position to succeed. I
will if to remember that, which is part of coaching too.
So for every time I see Belichick go oh yeah,
look at this work is awful and this this and
this this and this that, I go, yeah, but you know,
it's all part of coaching and not having an offensive
coordinator or having your former defensive coordinator calling plays because

(38:08):
for some reason you wanted to do that. That sucks.
That doesn't win. That's terrible. So yeah, I'm gonna take
everything Belichick says with a grain of salt because I
remember how he just ruined a quarterback over the last
three of years. Like everything else that's happened, I'm blameless.
Now while these guys bad that this guy should do this.
This guy is here, what's he doing here? Yeah? No,
I watched you up close and personal help ruin a

(38:31):
guy over the course of the past three and a
half years. So yeah, what you say, I'm gonna kind
of take with a grain of salt entertaining, but I'm
gonna take with a grain of salt.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
No, it is the curiosity, right because we've long talked
about the divide between Belichick GM and Belichick coach and
to your point, yeah, building out your staff that was coach,
that was not GM, little kind of a hybrid thing,
but certainly a disaster on every jerk cause I tried
to defend you know, Unfortunately Justin Fields didn't get the

(39:00):
love from the Bears organization that you have.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Now you go back and look at.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
The starting wide receivers and offensive weapons from just two
years ago versus what Caleb Williams is walking into. And
if you don't do a full on belly laugh to
get your ab exercise in, you're doing it wrong. Zach Wilson,
he became a jet right, and then Aaron Rodgers was
able to say, you're gonna do everything I want last

(39:24):
year to build this roster, which helps Wilson none This year.
They seem to be ignoring Aaron at least for now.
But then you look at this with New England Mac Jones,
same thing. It's like, all right, he had a great
first year and that was the end of it. So
I can never blame him fully. As much as folks
want to talk about a bust and how he flamed out, whatever,

(39:46):
it's like, did you see what they did doing there?
And it's your fault, Bill, And look, I hope he's
curmudgeonly and salty and doesn't want to play games with
the nonsensical quotes and says, nah, you got that wrong,
because he certainly did it a verbal backhand slap a
couple times.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
To mc off these guys.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
But it'll be an interesting watch and it's always good
to get those perspectives because you.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Talk about the longevity in the league. He's got stories
for days. Yeah. Look, and the thing is with Belichick
is that there's different ways you have to coach a quarterback.
All kinds of ways now, and like his way obviously
was a way that hey, every quarterback should be able
to do these things. No, that's not the case. Now
you have to coach everybody into you. You can't just put
quarterbacks into one blanket column and say this is how

(40:31):
we're coaching. He doesn't get's why he's not coaching now.
That's why because he doesn't know how to do that.
And that's part of what I see here is ow oh,
I'm criticizing this and this and footwork and all. This
is like, dude, you just help ruin a kid's career. Man,
that's part of it too. There's only it's not like
there's part of coaching you're responsible for and the other part.
The guys respond, No, that's all part of coaching. He
doesn't understand that.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's why the coaching line coaching business has changed to
both the pros and of course at the collegiate level.
Next rounds, we'll have more on this and a big
quarterback take coming up next.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right you are, Jason to Mike Fox.
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