May 29, 2024 • 39 mins
We tried to talk Jason off the Mets ledge. Longtime MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show for all the latest on the Mets collapse, the Dodgers and Angel Hernandez. Plus, why we need Jerry Jones Cam now!
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But before we begin, we got big night of NBA.
Tons of stuff to get to. Third quarter Game four
Mavericks and the Tea Wolves. Because I know he's just
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going to burst if he doesn't say anything. Let's check
in with Justin Frossberg, are intrepid producer who has been
keeping track of the Mets and the Dodgers double header, Frostburg.
What's going on? My internet's down.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I haven't able to watch any I only have two
words for America right now.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, Mets Yo sums it up nicely. Look, there's only
the Dodgers who just swept the double header from the
Mets after the Mets gave away a game in the
eighth and ninth inning in Game one. There's only one
problem with the Mets. There's only one problem. Serious.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I can do all the there's only one problem. Mike
dials down to one day. But you can say, over
the last month, we have now found that really all
of the talking, all of the column inches hours of
sports talk radio in local markets, yes, complaining about players
and coaches and strategies can be boiled down to one thing,
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really simplified this entire universe. You can hear to say,
the Stars aren't hitting, why aren't they trading anybody? They
can't close any games. And when Diaz is avag oh, yes,
they fire that guy. And Timmy l he's never coming.
I'm not coming back for this. Hey, he's like texting
the Mets every day, Hey, when can I come back?
And by we'll call you we'll call you. Don't worry
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about it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
To worry about it, there's only one thing. One thing.
One thing. The Mets stink.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Not good, not number one.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Sorry, the Mets really stinkation. I mean, at this point,
it's and it's not like the I wish they would
just get blown out every day. I'm just okay, let's
find a way to lose a game that's gonna yankee
your soul out, because that's what the Mets. Everything we're
good at. We're just good enough to lose every single day,
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you know, one out of every four games. But that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You know what's great though, And I pointed it out
to you in the Uh, well, it's Game two came
to a final Dodgers with completing the doubleheader sweep three
nothing on the match.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The seatbacks look really.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Good, by yeah, yeah, it does look that. It does
look That's what I mean. It's like a row of
the the lower It looks really nice.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And Oakland attendance you guys tonight. Yeah, that's the thing.
As the season goes on, you'll be able to see
that much more often because nobody's going to pay to
buy seats to sit there. No, it's gonna spend the buck.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Are we going to get a section when they they're
gonna play the Angels later on this year?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah? Oh yeah, we just get a section to ourselves.
It's Anaheim. Sure of course we can. We know whatever
we wants. That Sandwich guy will like walk hang out
with us. It'd be great. Did you check in on
your blood brother, Frank? Oh, Frank the Tech is not happy.
Frank the Tek is after game one. I knew I
said he's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At this point, I can't give him any more credence
until he either takes you know, twenty three and meters
and figures out if he is a direct descendant of
Perceval Pringle the Third also known as Paul Beard, or.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He's just stealing the family an ants or sures twenty
three minutes something they weren't supposed to be done. And
I'm related to uh Bert Young too, right, righted all
these people.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But this is where it gets even better, because not
only was he on social media losing his mind about
the games, he went back to the origin story today
complaining about the windows on the New Jersey trends and
how filthy they were.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look listen, because whoever they were the absolute worst the
tank's mouthpiece or the Mets.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh, the Mets at least fright that that only has
to worry about that, like for a minute a day,
the Mets. The Mets are a good three hour you know. Look,
just because there is this one headline with the Mets, sake,
there was one. Okay, now, when are they going to
start trading everybody? Because they just absolutely stink. David Stearns,
who runs the team, Well, I have a pipeline too
with John pal Moros, who's going to join us in
about ten minutes, you know, said Listen, it's a little
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too early to evaluate. We have plenty of time to
see what kind of team we're gonna be between now
and the deadline. Big headline in the New York Post
today for tomorrow's is what are you waiting for? They
should be the first team selling. Let me just say
what that translation is. We have plenty of time to
see what the team is gonna be. Translation is a
it is early because not as many teams are buyers
and not as many teams know what they're gonna be
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because it's still the end of the even Yeah, you know,
it's fine. Nobody else knows yet. Are we gonna be
buyers or sellers? We buying? Should we buy now? We
won't know until we get closer to the deadline. So
there is that, and that is one hundred percent true.
Doesn't mean you can't trade players, if you could trade
really good players at any time. But here's the problem.
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There's only one problem, one problem, only one problem.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Everybody the Mets want to trade, they all stink. So
no one's gonna say, yes, let me give you some
of our future for a guy who stinks. They can't
trade Nimo, they can't trade Alonzo, they can't trade McNeil.
They can't even trade lind doort love to trade Lindor
at this point? But they all stink. They all stank
away from Long Beach State. Who pitched Game one? Yeah
he was, he was great. All take him Glass, that
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was great, Hey, and McGill was great too. They just
didn't hit for him. Then game will give away in
the eighth that you know, That's the all. It just
boils down to, they stink, and you can't. You can't
trade players at stink. No one wants players who stink.
People want good players. So maybe if these guys start
hitting a little bit. Hey, get hot for a week,
I can trade you. But if you're hitting two hundred,
I can't trade any of you. No, this is where
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you start, Angel Hernandez. You gotta go and you gotta
find someone in your statistics department to figure out who's
coming up on any kind of milestone, and then you
have to go find the true dregs of Major League Baseball.
You go to the Marlins, you go to the White soako, Hey,
this guy's coming up not a big milestone, it can
really look good for you and maybe help bolster attendance
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and interest for a game and not. The other part
that I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge was
as we're getting ready and we come into these Tiraq
dot com Fox Sports radio studios, we got the basketball
game on right our four monitors, we're watching the end
of Dodgers Met and then they did a little cutaway
to show the exploits of Zach Wheeler. If I could
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have gotten a shot like that moment of your blood pressure,
that would have been the greatest medical moment in sports radio.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The Mets had six pictures. No, we're gonna keep these five,
and the guy we let go turns out to be
the best one. And that's him watching a Game four.
That's just awful. Man. I'm really Hazard pay Hazard pay
for watching the Mets.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, that's all right. They have good food stuffs there.
She's still got that going for you. We're live the
tirec dot Com Studios, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. We'll have
more baseball. We got John Paul Morosi coming up in
a few minutes. And boy do I have now that
we know show Hey Otani is back throwing. Do I
have an idea for what his future should be? And
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it's one hundred percent. I guarantee this is what it
should be when he resumes pitching. Now he's starting to
throw a little bit. Now he should do. But right now,
Minnesota and Dallas, Dallas US going for the clincher. It
would mean there would be forty six days between the
end of the finals, end Game one of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
We could watch a Fast and the Furious movie every
day before the.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Ooh, or Harry Potter movie every day. Remember seven is
in two parts, Yeah, Harry Pottery, while you watch Sorcerers
Stone do that. Everything night is Chambers Secrets and we
get to they will do gobble of fire. They will
do a little order of the feed. Common house rests
that many of them. Yeah, yeah, there's seven. There's seven movies.
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And the seventh movie was broken up into two parts.
Did we really need a seventh with two parts? No,
you never do. But that's a way to make money.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now strikes when something is ending, let's put the worst
part was Twilight Part four being in two parts.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I'm like, are you kidding me? Nothing? Nothing, nothing upset
me more than that being in two parts. I'm like,
come on, man, really, but right now, five and a
half to go on the third quarter, the Mavericks going
for the closer at home against the Tea Wolves Minnesota
with the lead sixty six sixty two, Anthony Edwards nineteen
points to lead the way so far from Minnesota, so
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far for Dallas. Been a great night for Luka Doncic.
Not so much for Kyrie Irving, who's got nine points
on three of ten shooting. But still much like when
we talked about Game four of the Celtics and the Pacers,
even though wow, how are they not winning this game?
Boat racing them? It felt like you're just waiting for
the Celtics to turn it on a little bit and
win this game and win the series. I feel the
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same thing here. We're just waiting for the Mavericks to
turn things on a little bit, take control of this
game and win. It's a four point game, but it
looks like, you know, the teams are going up and
down the floor pretty good. It's not a game where
the Timberwolves defense is really playing havoc with the Mavericks.
So this is where Dallas is like, Okay, we're just
waiting for at some point midway through the fourth quarter
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when Minnesota shots start not falling and Dallas starts making
them and PJ. Washington starts hitting threes because he's got
none tonight, you're gonna see Dallas pull away win this game.
And we're talking about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Hey, you got at the edge of nine rebounds for
Minnesota tonight, Dallas in the game because they've had three
more three point makes no lively for the Mavericks in
this one. They do get Kleiba back, so you know,
trying to gut it out a little bit. He's played
nine minutes, given them two points in a board thus far.
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But you know, guy that they've tried to do everything
they can to rush back into service here. But to
your point, yeah, Washington has been awful this point, and Luca,
even though he's got his twenty one, is also a
game high minus thirteen, so struggling a little bit defensively,
and as you expect, without Lively there that the advantage
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on the boards would be there for Minnesota taking full advantage.
And Anthony Edwards wants to stop some of the narratives
so he will not go down without a fight. No, look,
it's great that the Timberwolves are putting up this fight now,
but it's just you've just seen that this team, and
really Anthony Edwards in front of this because he is okay,
he's next, right, he's Michael Jordan. Yet not quite ready
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for this moment, like the entire team, not quite ready
for this moment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not that they're not good enough. Can you knock out
the defending champs? You should be ready. This can be
your moment. This is not where hey, we beat a
team that everybody injured. We beat another team that everybody injured.
Him he suddenly showed up in all Hey, no, no, no,
there're plenty good enough. But they weren't ready for what
it means. They weren't ready to have big players play
big and big games. They had not been there. And
you saw the little bit more that Kyrie and Luca
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who have played in just a few more big in Look,
Kyrie's got a championship and Luca's played in the conference
final before. These are guys that like to shoot the
basketball and understand what the pressure is all about. Everything
is new for Minnesota so so far, it's just been
so far, they're not up to the moment, and Karl
Anthony Towns has been killing them with his bad offensive
series so far. So it's no surprise to see Dallas
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playing this well. But when you look at from Minnesota,
it's just, hey, you're hoping that when the series ends
for next year, it's okay. Now they know what it's like,
and now we have to go into next year with
more of a we're the hunted instead of hey, we're
the new kids and respect us. And look look at
all the desire we played with against Denver and you know,
we come up short with nothing left against against the
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Dallas Mavericks. So that that's kind of where you're at.
You're hoping for next season.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, as a squad shooting fifty one percent for the night,
and kat is actually at come come in. As we
saw in the last couple of rounds, right wasn't terribly consistent,
but had a couple of big games. This series, he's
been awful. He's six to seven from the field, and
Mike Conley also giving them a boost offensively, He's five
to nine from the field, So a little bit of
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supplementation there to give them a puncher's chance as we
roll on. But yeah, we're waiting for the wheels to
come rolling off of this one. Even if Rick Carlisle
is not involved in the game, I'm sure he's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Tweeting out, Hey, you know the small town Minnesota Timberwolves
not getting the calls of the big city Dallas Meverick, No,
they are in.
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Three and a half to go in the third quarter,
t Wolves four point lead over the Mavericks seventy to
sixty six. We have more in this game coming up
in a few minutes. Meanwhile, the Rangers just tied their
game with the Panthers at two a piece. Ranger, We're
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going to go up three to one in the Eastern
Conference Finals in the NHL. But joining us now on
the hotline a man who is uniquely qualified as an
MLB insider, NHL reporter and my official go between between
me and David Stearns who runs the Mets. It's John PALMERROSI, Pope,
what's happening, Bud.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I'm doing great. I do regret to inform you, though,
that I do not think tonight is the best time
for me to text Sernsey and get a fresh take
on the Mets. I just don't think it's the right time.
There has to be space and respect given in friendships,
and I'm gonna have to give Sernsey a bit of
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space here tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah. The biggest thing I could come up with positive
You always say, hey, give David Sarns a positive message
from me. My big positive message night would be is
I'm looking forward to seeing what he can.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Do at the deadline. That would be my positive message
right now. You kept it within a slam, how about that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Sure? What a day. And I thought so much of
the Mets twenty twenty fourth season could be summarized by
the Freeman home running next ratings. Even in New York,
You've got a lot of Dodger fans there going crazy
around the dugout and then immediately the camera pans to
Pete Alonzo in the Mets dugout, he had already been
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replaced for a pitch runner, just sitting there, and it
was just a real juxtaposition. The Dodgers were down in
that game, but I'm sure they never felt like they
were out, and I'm sure the Mets never felt like
the Dodgers were out, because that's just the way that
both of those teams seasons have gone. And I do think, Jason,
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on a serious note, they now have the benefit of clarity.
It is clear to me where the Mets are going.
It is clear when you look up and down their roster.
If there were to be a conversation hypothetically, hypothetically at
some point about what's to do with Peter Alnzo, and
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the front office could say to Steve Cohen, listen, do
you really think that, in light of the way your
payroll looks right now and the roi that you're getting on.
Let's just say, lean Door or DS or Jeff McNeil,
that we are going to be eager to jump in
and give Alonso top dollar right now when the alternative
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is to trade them and get better in the near
term and long term, especially at a time when the
Philadelphia Phillies. And still the Braves, even minus Akunya, look
pretty darn unbeatable in your own division. It is about
as clear up a decision as they're possibly can be
in baseball. And yet, and yet, we have seen some
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owners Hardy Muredo with the Angels one notable example with
Otani in the last two years, who look at reality
and say, nah, I have different motivations here, And I
think that's going to be the big question for Steve
Cohen going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now you mentioned Otadi, You're the Dodgers in Hey. Nothing
cures a five game losing streak like a series with
the Mets. Big stuff. In the last twenty four hours,
he's now resumed a throwing program, at least whatever he's
doing to eventually make his return to pitching. I'm gonna
throw my idea by you, and you tell me good idea,
bad idea? You ready?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
When Otani comes back, he comes back as a closer
because you worried about the stress on his arm already
two UCL injuries before the age of thirty. Right, this
is less It's less stress on him. You don't have
to worry about him sitting out an extra game because
he would sit out the game before he pitches. That's
what he did with the Angel So you're talking about
already twenty five games. He would sit and not play.
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He would extend his career as a pitcher and think
about the electricity that would go through a team in
the ninth inning knowing that, hey, Otani's going to come
in and close for us, and it'd be like Rivera
coming in for the Yankees or Hoffman coming in for
the Padres. When Otani comes back, he comes back as
a closer.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Great idea. I don't think that it's Otani's first choice,
and for that reason alone, I don't believe it's what's
going to happen. I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen.
I think that you raised a lot of excellent ideas,
and to be honest, Jason, the idea that you're advancing
is something that a lot of people in the industry
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were wondering about last September when the injury recurred. For Otani,
it does make a lot of sense, But I also
think two things. Number One, Otani wants to pursue and
chase this dream of do being both on a consistent
basis and being a starting pitcher and a position player,
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or at least and a dh That has been his dream,
and I believe that when he signed with the Dodgers,
it was with the understanding that they would mutually respect
to each other's dreams. Of course, the Dodgers dream of
building a sustainable, long term winner, Otani's dream of being
able to continue to make history improve yet again that
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he can do this. I also think there was something
about Otani's regiment of pitching in preparation where and he
spoke about this through an interpreter and within the last
couple of days. The routine, the excitement, the ritual of
preparing for a start, having to start, and then going
into the next, the next start after that. It's something
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that he likes, and so I think it's what he
is comfortable with. I do believe, and certainly, hey, we
saw it in the World Baseball Classic on the grandest
of stages when he struck out Mike Trout. He's perfectly
comfortable coming into the game. Wait, and we saw it
was one of the more in double the moments of
his career. He can clearly do it. I just think
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that he believes and the Dodgers believe that his impact
is greatest as as a closer. Now the one thing
or as a starter, the one thing that I think
becomes interesting. And we've talked about this a bit. The
MLB is working on different ways to potentially change the
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rules of the game to incentivize starters to go longer,
and one of those ways is what's called the double hook.
In other words, once once the starting pitcher leaves leaves
the game, the team then loses the DH and then
has to put that starting that bat into the lineup.
For example, so once you lose the starting pitcher and
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you start rolling in a six hitting guy or a
seventh inting guy, they then enter the lineup and have
to be pinch hit for does that then expand the
possibilities and all of a sudden having Otani involved. But
but again, if you're if he's already your DH, especially
in that rule, then you would lose your DH. If
the same it gets very complicated to where if then
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he's replaced on the mound, is he also then replaces
the DH. That becomes very complicated. So I think for
all those reasons, I would still say most likely scenario
is he's a starting pitcher, in twenty twenty five, not
an excelerated time table to pitch in the postseason. I'm sorry,
justin I know you wanted to ask that question. I
don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
This calendar year now, since we're on the subject of,
you know, rules changes and and how we adjudicate the
game JP, Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Is going going away as the road hurt, as the
robot over lords come.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Hey, maybe folks took Memorial Day off from Great Sports
Talk Radio. I don't know, but you know, I don't
think I've ever seen something so universally celebrate in our world.
We're divisive about everything. Angel Hernandez. Only Joe West just
come up to defend him at this point.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
It's a very interesting topic. And I did look up,
by the way, his his umpire scorecard for this year
in terms of accuracy percentile, And I'll just get without
looking it up if you haven't already, where do you
think he ranks? So if you put all major leagunplayers
zero to one hundred in terms of accuracy of calls
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this season, in which percentile is Angel hernad this one.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hundred and fifty?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Okay, any other guesses get in.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
There and sell Ell Sell one hundred. He ranks one
hundred and second sixty two, so sixty.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Second percentile would mean that he is better than let's say,
just using rough map, he's better than sixty one percent
of the empires. He's actually the twenty second percentile, meaning
give or take, about one fifth of the umpires in
MLB right now are less accurate than angel Z according
to the umpire scorecards. Just point of fact is the
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most controversial. Yes, he is, but it would based on
those numbers, it would not be correct to say that
he is the least accurate. So perhaps, and again indeed,
about twenty percent of umpires are less accurate this year
than he is. It's certainly not excusing the myriad controversies
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that have existed with angel in the past, but it
was I thought a very interesting insight. Listen, he's got.
The job of the umpire is difficult. There is also
no doubt that perhaps in certain situations he certainly could
have handled them differently in a way that would not
have resulted in such renown. I also know that there
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was I will say that I had one one interaction
with him over a longer period of time where we
were on the same flight going from Florida to Cuba
for the twenty sixteen Havana Series Havanna game between the
Rays and the Cuban national team. Angel born in Cuba,
grew up in Miami, in Florida, and he was talking
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about just how special and meaningful that trip was for
his family. So, yes, there are reasons out there to criticize,
and that's part of the job. But I wanted to
share that one little anecdote about the time that I
was on a flight with Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Did he throw you off the flight?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He did not, Oh, okay, Mercy, you're out of here,
nor did he inject me. And I did say this
as I was talking to my kids, not that they
really know a lot about baseball, but I did say this,
going back to the famous Ian Kinsler story. I said, girls,
just so you know, in terms of how you interact
with an official umpire and any sport that we play,
remember this. Ian Kinsler was once ejected from a game
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because of how he looked at the umpire Harper.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The other day, he was trying to have a nice conversation,
nice well meaning and in the first inning he gets
himself ejected.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, he got ejected. It's almost like that scene in
Field of Dreams when when Doc Graham's character at the
younger Doc Graham winks at the pitcher and then gets
gets He winked at me. He didn't like it. He
winked at me. So you never know how these personalities
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in the great Game of baseball intersects with one another.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
But that's the thing about Angel Hernandez, Pope, is that yes,
you can miss calls, but then there's Angel Hernandez missing
calls by a wide swath because it looked like I
wanted to call it that way. I want to ring
you up on three pitches, regardless as to where the
pitches end up. I want to call you out on
this ground out, regardless of the fact that you know
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you beat it by a half step. Like there's missing calls,
and then it seems like Angel Hamers is doing it
because he just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Well. I do think that there is a lesson in
this for everyone who does a job in the public
sphere that mistakes, mistakes are part of the job, Mistakes
are expected, and it is often how we handle those
mistakes that in a lot of ways defines the way
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in which the public opinion perhaps is shaped. And I
do think there were multiple moments in which perhaps after
a game or a MYS call, the famous Adam Rosales
home run that wasn't in Cleveland years ago, where and
I'm sorry I made a mistake, would have gone a
long way. And I think that again that's and that
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is one thing as we talk about, whether it's Angel Ornandez,
there are times when Joe West was in the headlines too.
Transparency goes a long way, and when a situation comes
up and an umpire talks about it, at least you
want to be able to say, I spoke with the media,
I knowledge what happened. Jim Joyce perfect example, one of
(28:03):
the toughest moments on a baseball field. The way that
he handled it was exemplary for years to come. And
I think that perhaps looking back, and maybe for MLB
and umpires looking forward, that yes, you hope to have
a your best homeplight, ball strike people calling the calls
in the biggest moments. That is one major part of
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the postseason. I'm a big believer in if some of
the greate balls and strikes, let them just keep calling
balls and strikes as much as their body will tolerate
it as opposed to rotating through a really good based
umpire to call balls and strikes. And maybe it's not
the strong suit. I think that's one thing to think about.
But the second piece is transparency is always the way,
and graciousness and admitting wrong tends to go a long
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way in our society. Still, it is not a lost art.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Suing the league saying you were slighted when you're ranking
twenty second doesn't help either. Last one for you real quick, JP,
this one has got somes to it today the incorporation
after a three year research project of the Niger League
stats into Major League Baseball. So we see some changes
a top this. How how's this gone over through through
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the industry in terms of I think you're important.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
And it's it's an important part of the history to
where Josh Gibson, Cool, Papa bell Oscar Charleston. We need
to think about their place in the game. And if
we're going to be real and honest about this, clearly
they they would have put up numbers similar numbers had
they had the opportunity to play, and it was clearly
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not their fault that they did not have the opportunity
to play, and that to me is the effort to
write the historical wrong. And and this is not it's
not taking away numbers of other people have put up.
It's merely recognizing that which the Negro League's players had done.
And I think it's the right thing to do. I
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know that the effort that Bob Kendrick and his amazing
team at the Negro League's museum and put into for
a long time to make sure that these players are
recognized the way they should be. And Joe Posnansk, I
think about the Baseball one hundred book that he wrote
that I'm looking at right now on my shelf. Look
at where Oscar Charleston was in that book, and Norman
Turkey Searns here in Detroit. There are so many powerful
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stories that I hope that this change does two things.
Number one gives the proper historical recognition to players who
deserved it. And number two makes those of us, who
obviously are of a younger age and we're not watching
the Negro Leagues in person, we're alive at that time,
gives us a moment to pause, reflect, consider, celebrate the achievements.
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I think that's really important for us to really think
about going forward.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Rossi,
the Pope, John Palm Rose, the MLB Network insider as always,
shad your time, thanks so much, and if the Mets
make a trade tonight, we'll call you back.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Please do you guys this amazing time of year. And yes,
I'll probably text David. I may give him a day
or two after the double letters sleep.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Probably gonna thanks buddy, I'll talk to JP. I'm gonna
give him a couple of days. Yeah, give him a
couple of days, give him a couple Send.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Him some ice cream or something, street meet, I don't know,
something to make him feel street meat.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen
live from the tyreq dot com Studios. Yes again, just
still feels like okay. Mavericks waiting, when are they gonna
throw the hammer down? Luca got some rest on the bench,
throwing up Alla up since he's come back in Kyrie
Ona floater. Eight minutes to go, eight and a half
to go. It is a one point lead for the
t Wolves over the Mavericks, who are looking to win
(31:47):
and head to the NBA Finals. But speaking of the
NBA Finals. Speaking of the Stanley Cup Finals, we talked
about this a couple of days ago, but now it
is it is def con one is a serial. Most seriously, yes,
it is deaf on one to get the greatest idea
in sports going, and it's gotta be now. We get
to that coming up next right here, Jason and Mike
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (32:18):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tireck dot Com Studios, Minnesota and Dallas
eighty nine eighty eight te Wolves. With the lead six
minutes left to go in the fourth quarter, Dallas could
be six minutes away from the NBA Finals. Meanwhile, Rangers
(32:39):
in the Panthers two to two late third period. Tomorrow night,
of course, Dallas Stars look to go up three games
to one on Edmonton as they try to reach a
Stanley Cup Final. Frostburg loving every moment of it. I mean,
it is time at the Oilers. Well documented, Like we
mentioned this a few days ago, but now it's like
you got to get going on this. We need those
cameras following Jerry Jones around to get his reaction as
(33:02):
he watches every Dallas area team except for the Cowboys
play for a championship. This year, you had the Rangers
win the World Series. Okay, we kind of missed the
boat and that nothing we can do. But now you
have the Mavericks and the Stars could be playing for
the chet. Follow You gotta follow Jerry.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You gotta get those cameras now, like office style, like
whatever you wherever you have cameras. One's gotta follow him
every second of the day and follow him. Just see
what it's like when he's watching the Mavericks continue to
win and the Stars continue to win, and people keep
writing in the Dallas Morning News don't.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Know what Jerry's doing, don't know about.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This all and stuff, and really just see the blood
drain from his face and his eyes out get really white,
that he just loses everything, just trying to come to
grips with the fact that all these other teams in
the city all become championship teams. We're worth the most,
we spend the most money.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We're not close over ten thousand days.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I don't have today since the last NFC title
game appearance by the Dallas Cowboys. Meanwhile, you've got winners.
I want winners.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Oh you got you gotta get those cameras out now,
and you have more than that. I mean, this is
this is a great idea, Like this is a great idea.
This this could be the highest rated show in sports.
Forget about Hard Knocks. This is Hard Knocks with Jerry
Jones and just talking about this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's not quite Basketball Wives. But I'm with you because
you'll get two great things. I guarantee you'll get two
great things. Right, You'll get one where Jerry Jones. I
guarantee you will do something to gain a huge headline.
If both of these teams are playing for the championship,
he will do something Cowboys wise to take the end away.
He's gonna do something right. It's just like you know,
(34:44):
Lebron's gonna do something in the in the time off
of me?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Are you kidding? Fighting out? It's a full docu series
where he's got to go pro on his head. You
are gonna top bringing Zeke back. It's gonna be tough
man out of time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Maybe a question, Hey dad, here you go here's here's
eighty five million dollars for next year.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Congratulations. What do you got? Question?
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Is is it more likely that he is aware of
this or that he's just completely unaware that there are
Oh no, no, he knows you kidding, he knows. He I
still got his ag deals. He's not really up on
the news like that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Dave.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
See, I don't think he's in one of those you know,
chambers like they had Darth Baylor. He's on the he's
not like the ESPN app or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Checks.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He's he's in line McMuffin right now. No, No, he's
got stando.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Stephen calls and and Steven call me every five minutes,
let me know what's going on. Every five minutes, let
me know how things are going. Okay, the hockey thing
maybe every ten minutes. Not as many points scored now
it's points, is that what?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It's? Okay? Great?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But basketball? Yeah, every five minutes, call me. I gotta know.
I gotta know now, So you get that, right, you'll
get that. But even even if he isn't aware, I mean,
this is now somebody's job to agitate the hell out
of it. Oh yeah, yeah, you say, it'll prompt action,
whether it's a Dallas local reporter that just keeps calling him,
we need the TMZ reporters that that of the cameraman
and reporter at the same time that finally go, hey,
(36:01):
Dean Kine, how do you feel about not being cast
in Smallville? The return and he's at Costco like unloaded. Well,
everything is fine.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That's so you need doing this.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You can't just have you got the bright light?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, no I thought you just had
a cat phone. No yeah, no, no, no, that's what
you need. You need like, you know, hey, mister de Niro,
can you talk about what happened? Mister de Niro?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I know what.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's what happened, Tony. Uh the other great thing you'll
get right, the other great thing. You'll go there, didn't
you Well, I mean I was thinking about guys losing
their mind today. It happened. I mean, yeah, but that
wasn't It's just.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
A random hey, we found you on the street. He
injected himself into that situation.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Headline of the New York Post was raging Bowl. Of course.
I think he was. He believed he was filming a movie.
Maybe it was it could be yeah, oh something for
a time back, but they told that's what they told them. Yeah, yeah, listen,
I need you to really emote right now, Bob worked
to the mote. Okay, this is what watches that.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
It's gonna check's gonna clear, right. So so you're gonna
get that. You'll you if you follow him, you will
get that from Jerry Jones. And now I really want
to call TMZ to say, just send a guy following
Jerry Jones. Hey, Jerry, it's going to give you up
to I know Steven's gonna call you, but wow, another
three by Lucas an eight point le.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
What do you think, Jerry. The other thing is this
is I want Jerry Jones to submit to a lie
detector where the questions are older, because I could do
it Friday. I didn't know which process are going through.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Lie detector, only about how he feels about the other
Dallas area teams playing for a chance because there was
another owner in sports that was tied to something that
would the prior and test, which was emphatically denied.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
There's look, and there's too many things that you could
ask Jerry Jones he would say no to, but say, hey,
lie detector, just to know how you feel about this,
and if there's a buzzer whenever he lies, so you
can say, like, hey, Jerry, so, how do you feel
about the Dallas Stars making the Stanley Cup Final. I've
always been a big star San. I'm not happy for
them that there's enough room for us here in the city.
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Very happy?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Or is it like the Seinfeld thing where you ask
a bunch of innocuous questions then you get deep into
whether Jerry is ahead on Melrose Place or not? Jerry,
how do you feel about Luga Dondrich? Well, I talked
to Mark Cuban. We're both excited. Want to elect your cute.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And old man. I just hambra I did not know
not that he gets bud just a buzzer goes off.
To know that He's like, okay, because you're shaking violently.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
If we were gonna have to take I got sound
a buzzer?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
How to hurt him? O fake buzzer? We just buzz
all the time. I thought the buzz is only going
to go off on a lie? Why is it going
off all the time? You open your mouth, Jerry, are
you all in on this season?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Absolutely? Well? Your definition of all into mine is different okay,
truthful statement. Date when he does.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Do something rash here because it's coming, whether it's a
giant check to see d Lamb or to.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Dad Jack, here's a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
The first question at the presser has to be were
you prompted by the success of the other teams at
the Dallas Market?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Jerry? Are you doing this just because the other teams
are doing well? No, not at all. We had this plan. Nah,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I can't win on this Onegina. I just we're happy
for Dak. I'm happy to pay DAK and uh, I
expect us to be in a super Bowl. Sevin, Who's
about that buzzer? That's not what Stephen, Steven Stephen getting here.
This is not going how I thought it was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
While Steven controlling the buzzer that whole time, I'm stopping.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
We're not doing this anymore. This is we're not speaking
all in happy National Hamburger Day.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I want to hamb it Hamburger Day exit out about
a Fresco exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon coming up next. Are we
talking about a Dallas Maverick sweep or the Tea Wolves
keeping it alive. That's next. Jason and Mike Fox
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But before we begin, we got big night of NBA.
Tons of stuff to get to. Third quarter Game four
Mavericks and the Tea Wolves. Because I know he's just
(01:08):
going to burst if he doesn't say anything. Let's check
in with Justin Frossberg, are intrepid producer who has been
keeping track of the Mets and the Dodgers double header, Frostburg.
What's going on? My internet's down.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I haven't able to watch any I only have two
words for America right now.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, Mets Yo sums it up nicely. Look, there's only
the Dodgers who just swept the double header from the
Mets after the Mets gave away a game in the
eighth and ninth inning in Game one. There's only one
problem with the Mets. There's only one problem. Serious.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I can do all the there's only one problem. Mike
dials down to one day. But you can say, over
the last month, we have now found that really all
of the talking, all of the column inches hours of
sports talk radio in local markets, yes, complaining about players
and coaches and strategies can be boiled down to one thing,
(02:02):
really simplified this entire universe. You can hear to say,
the Stars aren't hitting, why aren't they trading anybody? They
can't close any games. And when Diaz is avag oh, yes,
they fire that guy. And Timmy l he's never coming.
I'm not coming back for this. Hey, he's like texting
the Mets every day, Hey, when can I come back?
And by we'll call you we'll call you. Don't worry
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about it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
To worry about it, there's only one thing. One thing.
One thing. The Mets stink.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Not good, not number one.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Sorry, the Mets really stinkation. I mean, at this point,
it's and it's not like the I wish they would
just get blown out every day. I'm just okay, let's
find a way to lose a game that's gonna yankee
your soul out, because that's what the Mets. Everything we're
good at. We're just good enough to lose every single day,
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you know, one out of every four games. But that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You know what's great though, And I pointed it out
to you in the Uh, well, it's Game two came
to a final Dodgers with completing the doubleheader sweep three
nothing on the match.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The seatbacks look really.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Good, by yeah, yeah, it does look that. It does
look That's what I mean. It's like a row of
the the lower It looks really nice.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And Oakland attendance you guys tonight. Yeah, that's the thing.
As the season goes on, you'll be able to see
that much more often because nobody's going to pay to
buy seats to sit there. No, it's gonna spend the buck.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Are we going to get a section when they they're
gonna play the Angels later on this year?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah? Oh yeah, we just get a section to ourselves.
It's Anaheim. Sure of course we can. We know whatever
we wants. That Sandwich guy will like walk hang out
with us. It'd be great. Did you check in on
your blood brother, Frank? Oh, Frank the Tech is not happy.
Frank the Tek is after game one. I knew I
said he's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At this point, I can't give him any more credence
until he either takes you know, twenty three and meters
and figures out if he is a direct descendant of
Perceval Pringle the Third also known as Paul Beard, or.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He's just stealing the family an ants or sures twenty
three minutes something they weren't supposed to be done. And
I'm related to uh Bert Young too, right, righted all
these people.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But this is where it gets even better, because not
only was he on social media losing his mind about
the games, he went back to the origin story today
complaining about the windows on the New Jersey trends and
how filthy they were.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look listen, because whoever they were the absolute worst the
tank's mouthpiece or the Mets.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh, the Mets at least fright that that only has
to worry about that, like for a minute a day,
the Mets. The Mets are a good three hour you know. Look,
just because there is this one headline with the Mets, sake,
there was one. Okay, now, when are they going to
start trading everybody? Because they just absolutely stink. David Stearns,
who runs the team, Well, I have a pipeline too
with John pal Moros, who's going to join us in
about ten minutes, you know, said Listen, it's a little
(04:56):
too early to evaluate. We have plenty of time to
see what kind of team we're gonna be between now
and the deadline. Big headline in the New York Post
today for tomorrow's is what are you waiting for? They
should be the first team selling. Let me just say
what that translation is. We have plenty of time to
see what the team is gonna be. Translation is a
it is early because not as many teams are buyers
and not as many teams know what they're gonna be
(05:18):
because it's still the end of the even Yeah, you know,
it's fine. Nobody else knows yet. Are we gonna be
buyers or sellers? We buying? Should we buy now? We
won't know until we get closer to the deadline. So
there is that, and that is one hundred percent true.
Doesn't mean you can't trade players, if you could trade
really good players at any time. But here's the problem.
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There's only one problem, one problem, only one problem.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Everybody the Mets want to trade, they all stink. So
no one's gonna say, yes, let me give you some
of our future for a guy who stinks. They can't
trade Nimo, they can't trade Alonzo, they can't trade McNeil.
They can't even trade lind doort love to trade Lindor
at this point? But they all stink. They all stank
away from Long Beach State. Who pitched Game one? Yeah
he was, he was great. All take him Glass, that
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was great, Hey, and McGill was great too. They just
didn't hit for him. Then game will give away in
the eighth that you know, That's the all. It just
boils down to, they stink, and you can't. You can't
trade players at stink. No one wants players who stink.
People want good players. So maybe if these guys start
hitting a little bit. Hey, get hot for a week,
I can trade you. But if you're hitting two hundred,
I can't trade any of you. No, this is where
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you start, Angel Hernandez. You gotta go and you gotta
find someone in your statistics department to figure out who's
coming up on any kind of milestone, and then you
have to go find the true dregs of Major League Baseball.
You go to the Marlins, you go to the White soako, Hey,
this guy's coming up not a big milestone, it can
really look good for you and maybe help bolster attendance
(06:45):
and interest for a game and not. The other part
that I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge was
as we're getting ready and we come into these Tiraq
dot com Fox Sports radio studios, we got the basketball
game on right our four monitors, we're watching the end
of Dodgers Met and then they did a little cutaway
to show the exploits of Zach Wheeler. If I could
(07:05):
have gotten a shot like that moment of your blood pressure,
that would have been the greatest medical moment in sports radio.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The Mets had six pictures. No, we're gonna keep these five,
and the guy we let go turns out to be
the best one. And that's him watching a Game four.
That's just awful. Man. I'm really Hazard pay Hazard pay
for watching the Mets.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, that's all right. They have good food stuffs there.
She's still got that going for you. We're live the
tirec dot Com Studios, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. We'll have
more baseball. We got John Paul Morosi coming up in
a few minutes. And boy do I have now that
we know show Hey Otani is back throwing. Do I
have an idea for what his future should be? And
(07:48):
it's one hundred percent. I guarantee this is what it
should be when he resumes pitching. Now he's starting to
throw a little bit. Now he should do. But right now,
Minnesota and Dallas, Dallas US going for the clincher. It
would mean there would be forty six days between the
end of the finals, end Game one of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
We could watch a Fast and the Furious movie every
day before the.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Ooh, or Harry Potter movie every day. Remember seven is
in two parts, Yeah, Harry Pottery, while you watch Sorcerers
Stone do that. Everything night is Chambers Secrets and we
get to they will do gobble of fire. They will
do a little order of the feed. Common house rests
that many of them. Yeah, yeah, there's seven. There's seven movies.
(08:33):
And the seventh movie was broken up into two parts.
Did we really need a seventh with two parts? No,
you never do. But that's a way to make money.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now strikes when something is ending, let's put the worst
part was Twilight Part four being in two parts.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I'm like, are you kidding me? Nothing? Nothing, nothing upset
me more than that being in two parts. I'm like,
come on, man, really, but right now, five and a
half to go on the third quarter, the Mavericks going
for the closer at home against the Tea Wolves Minnesota
with the lead sixty six sixty two, Anthony Edwards nineteen
points to lead the way so far from Minnesota, so
(09:07):
far for Dallas. Been a great night for Luka Doncic.
Not so much for Kyrie Irving, who's got nine points
on three of ten shooting. But still much like when
we talked about Game four of the Celtics and the Pacers,
even though wow, how are they not winning this game?
Boat racing them? It felt like you're just waiting for
the Celtics to turn it on a little bit and
win this game and win the series. I feel the
(09:29):
same thing here. We're just waiting for the Mavericks to
turn things on a little bit, take control of this
game and win. It's a four point game, but it
looks like, you know, the teams are going up and
down the floor pretty good. It's not a game where
the Timberwolves defense is really playing havoc with the Mavericks.
So this is where Dallas is like, Okay, we're just
waiting for at some point midway through the fourth quarter
(09:49):
when Minnesota shots start not falling and Dallas starts making
them and PJ. Washington starts hitting threes because he's got
none tonight, you're gonna see Dallas pull away win this game.
And we're talking about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Hey, you got at the edge of nine rebounds for
Minnesota tonight, Dallas in the game because they've had three
more three point makes no lively for the Mavericks in
this one. They do get Kleiba back, so you know,
trying to gut it out a little bit. He's played
nine minutes, given them two points in a board thus far.
(10:23):
But you know, guy that they've tried to do everything
they can to rush back into service here. But to
your point, yeah, Washington has been awful this point, and Luca,
even though he's got his twenty one, is also a
game high minus thirteen, so struggling a little bit defensively,
and as you expect, without Lively there that the advantage
(10:44):
on the boards would be there for Minnesota taking full advantage.
And Anthony Edwards wants to stop some of the narratives
so he will not go down without a fight. No, look,
it's great that the Timberwolves are putting up this fight now,
but it's just you've just seen that this team, and
really Anthony Edwards in front of this because he is okay,
he's next, right, he's Michael Jordan. Yet not quite ready
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for this moment, like the entire team, not quite ready
for this moment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not that they're not good enough. Can you knock out
the defending champs? You should be ready. This can be
your moment. This is not where hey, we beat a
team that everybody injured. We beat another team that everybody injured.
Him he suddenly showed up in all Hey, no, no, no,
there're plenty good enough. But they weren't ready for what
it means. They weren't ready to have big players play
big and big games. They had not been there. And
you saw the little bit more that Kyrie and Luca
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who have played in just a few more big in Look,
Kyrie's got a championship and Luca's played in the conference
final before. These are guys that like to shoot the
basketball and understand what the pressure is all about. Everything
is new for Minnesota so so far, it's just been
so far, they're not up to the moment, and Karl
Anthony Towns has been killing them with his bad offensive
series so far. So it's no surprise to see Dallas
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playing this well. But when you look at from Minnesota,
it's just, hey, you're hoping that when the series ends
for next year, it's okay. Now they know what it's like,
and now we have to go into next year with
more of a we're the hunted instead of hey, we're
the new kids and respect us. And look look at
all the desire we played with against Denver and you know,
we come up short with nothing left against against the
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Dallas Mavericks. So that that's kind of where you're at.
You're hoping for next season.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, as a squad shooting fifty one percent for the night,
and kat is actually at come come in. As we
saw in the last couple of rounds, right wasn't terribly consistent,
but had a couple of big games. This series, he's
been awful. He's six to seven from the field, and
Mike Conley also giving them a boost offensively, He's five
to nine from the field, So a little bit of
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supplementation there to give them a puncher's chance as we
roll on. But yeah, we're waiting for the wheels to
come rolling off of this one. Even if Rick Carlisle
is not involved in the game, I'm sure he's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Tweeting out, Hey, you know the small town Minnesota Timberwolves
not getting the calls of the big city Dallas Meverick, No,
they are in.
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Three and a half to go in the third quarter,
t Wolves four point lead over the Mavericks seventy to
sixty six. We have more in this game coming up
in a few minutes. Meanwhile, the Rangers just tied their
game with the Panthers at two a piece. Ranger, We're
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going to go up three to one in the Eastern
Conference Finals in the NHL. But joining us now on
the hotline a man who is uniquely qualified as an
MLB insider, NHL reporter and my official go between between
me and David Stearns who runs the Mets. It's John PALMERROSI, Pope,
what's happening, Bud.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I'm doing great. I do regret to inform you, though,
that I do not think tonight is the best time
for me to text Sernsey and get a fresh take
on the Mets. I just don't think it's the right time.
There has to be space and respect given in friendships,
and I'm gonna have to give Sernsey a bit of
(15:57):
space here tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah. The biggest thing I could come up with positive
You always say, hey, give David Sarns a positive message
from me. My big positive message night would be is
I'm looking forward to seeing what he can.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Do at the deadline. That would be my positive message
right now. You kept it within a slam, how about that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Sure? What a day. And I thought so much of
the Mets twenty twenty fourth season could be summarized by
the Freeman home running next ratings. Even in New York,
You've got a lot of Dodger fans there going crazy
around the dugout and then immediately the camera pans to
Pete Alonzo in the Mets dugout, he had already been
(16:35):
replaced for a pitch runner, just sitting there, and it
was just a real juxtaposition. The Dodgers were down in
that game, but I'm sure they never felt like they
were out, and I'm sure the Mets never felt like
the Dodgers were out, because that's just the way that
both of those teams seasons have gone. And I do think, Jason,
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on a serious note, they now have the benefit of clarity.
It is clear to me where the Mets are going.
It is clear when you look up and down their roster.
If there were to be a conversation hypothetically, hypothetically at
some point about what's to do with Peter Alnzo, and
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the front office could say to Steve Cohen, listen, do
you really think that, in light of the way your
payroll looks right now and the roi that you're getting on.
Let's just say, lean Door or DS or Jeff McNeil,
that we are going to be eager to jump in
and give Alonso top dollar right now when the alternative
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is to trade them and get better in the near
term and long term, especially at a time when the
Philadelphia Phillies. And still the Braves, even minus Akunya, look
pretty darn unbeatable in your own division. It is about
as clear up a decision as they're possibly can be
in baseball. And yet, and yet, we have seen some
(18:04):
owners Hardy Muredo with the Angels one notable example with
Otani in the last two years, who look at reality
and say, nah, I have different motivations here, And I
think that's going to be the big question for Steve
Cohen going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now you mentioned Otadi, You're the Dodgers in Hey. Nothing
cures a five game losing streak like a series with
the Mets. Big stuff. In the last twenty four hours,
he's now resumed a throwing program, at least whatever he's
doing to eventually make his return to pitching. I'm gonna
throw my idea by you, and you tell me good idea,
bad idea? You ready?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
When Otani comes back, he comes back as a closer
because you worried about the stress on his arm already
two UCL injuries before the age of thirty. Right, this
is less It's less stress on him. You don't have
to worry about him sitting out an extra game because
he would sit out the game before he pitches. That's
what he did with the Angel So you're talking about
already twenty five games. He would sit and not play.
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He would extend his career as a pitcher and think
about the electricity that would go through a team in
the ninth inning knowing that, hey, Otani's going to come
in and close for us, and it'd be like Rivera
coming in for the Yankees or Hoffman coming in for
the Padres. When Otani comes back, he comes back as
a closer.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Great idea. I don't think that it's Otani's first choice,
and for that reason alone, I don't believe it's what's
going to happen. I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen.
I think that you raised a lot of excellent ideas,
and to be honest, Jason, the idea that you're advancing
is something that a lot of people in the industry
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were wondering about last September when the injury recurred. For Otani,
it does make a lot of sense, But I also
think two things. Number One, Otani wants to pursue and
chase this dream of do being both on a consistent
basis and being a starting pitcher and a position player,
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or at least and a dh That has been his dream,
and I believe that when he signed with the Dodgers,
it was with the understanding that they would mutually respect
to each other's dreams. Of course, the Dodgers dream of
building a sustainable, long term winner, Otani's dream of being
able to continue to make history improve yet again that
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he can do this. I also think there was something
about Otani's regiment of pitching in preparation where and he
spoke about this through an interpreter and within the last
couple of days. The routine, the excitement, the ritual of
preparing for a start, having to start, and then going
into the next, the next start after that. It's something
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that he likes, and so I think it's what he
is comfortable with. I do believe, and certainly, hey, we
saw it in the World Baseball Classic on the grandest
of stages when he struck out Mike Trout. He's perfectly
comfortable coming into the game. Wait, and we saw it
was one of the more in double the moments of
his career. He can clearly do it. I just think
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that he believes and the Dodgers believe that his impact
is greatest as as a closer. Now the one thing
or as a starter, the one thing that I think
becomes interesting. And we've talked about this a bit. The
MLB is working on different ways to potentially change the
(21:29):
rules of the game to incentivize starters to go longer,
and one of those ways is what's called the double hook.
In other words, once once the starting pitcher leaves leaves
the game, the team then loses the DH and then
has to put that starting that bat into the lineup.
For example, so once you lose the starting pitcher and
(21:50):
you start rolling in a six hitting guy or a
seventh inting guy, they then enter the lineup and have
to be pinch hit for does that then expand the
possibilities and all of a sudden having Otani involved. But
but again, if you're if he's already your DH, especially
in that rule, then you would lose your DH. If
the same it gets very complicated to where if then
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he's replaced on the mound, is he also then replaces
the DH. That becomes very complicated. So I think for
all those reasons, I would still say most likely scenario
is he's a starting pitcher, in twenty twenty five, not
an excelerated time table to pitch in the postseason. I'm sorry,
justin I know you wanted to ask that question. I
don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
This calendar year now, since we're on the subject of,
you know, rules changes and and how we adjudicate the
game JP, Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Is going going away as the road hurt, as the
robot over lords come.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Hey, maybe folks took Memorial Day off from Great Sports
Talk Radio. I don't know, but you know, I don't
think I've ever seen something so universally celebrate in our world.
We're divisive about everything. Angel Hernandez. Only Joe West just
come up to defend him at this point.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
It's a very interesting topic. And I did look up,
by the way, his his umpire scorecard for this year
in terms of accuracy percentile, And I'll just get without
looking it up if you haven't already, where do you
think he ranks? So if you put all major leagunplayers
zero to one hundred in terms of accuracy of calls
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this season, in which percentile is Angel hernad this one.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hundred and fifty?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Okay, any other guesses get in.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
There and sell Ell Sell one hundred. He ranks one
hundred and second sixty two, so sixty.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Second percentile would mean that he is better than let's say,
just using rough map, he's better than sixty one percent
of the empires. He's actually the twenty second percentile, meaning
give or take, about one fifth of the umpires in
MLB right now are less accurate than angel Z according
to the umpire scorecards. Just point of fact is the
(24:09):
most controversial. Yes, he is, but it would based on
those numbers, it would not be correct to say that
he is the least accurate. So perhaps, and again indeed,
about twenty percent of umpires are less accurate this year
than he is. It's certainly not excusing the myriad controversies
(24:32):
that have existed with angel in the past, but it
was I thought a very interesting insight. Listen, he's got.
The job of the umpire is difficult. There is also
no doubt that perhaps in certain situations he certainly could
have handled them differently in a way that would not
have resulted in such renown. I also know that there
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was I will say that I had one one interaction
with him over a longer period of time where we
were on the same flight going from Florida to Cuba
for the twenty sixteen Havana Series Havanna game between the
Rays and the Cuban national team. Angel born in Cuba,
grew up in Miami, in Florida, and he was talking
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about just how special and meaningful that trip was for
his family. So, yes, there are reasons out there to criticize,
and that's part of the job. But I wanted to
share that one little anecdote about the time that I
was on a flight with Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Did he throw you off the flight?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He did not, Oh, okay, Mercy, you're out of here,
nor did he inject me. And I did say this
as I was talking to my kids, not that they
really know a lot about baseball, but I did say this,
going back to the famous Ian Kinsler story. I said, girls,
just so you know, in terms of how you interact
with an official umpire and any sport that we play,
remember this. Ian Kinsler was once ejected from a game
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because of how he looked at the umpire Harper.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The other day, he was trying to have a nice conversation,
nice well meaning and in the first inning he gets
himself ejected.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, he got ejected. It's almost like that scene in
Field of Dreams when when Doc Graham's character at the
younger Doc Graham winks at the pitcher and then gets
gets He winked at me. He didn't like it. He
winked at me. So you never know how these personalities
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in the great Game of baseball intersects with one another.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
But that's the thing about Angel Hernandez, Pope, is that yes,
you can miss calls, but then there's Angel Hernandez missing
calls by a wide swath because it looked like I
wanted to call it that way. I want to ring
you up on three pitches, regardless as to where the
pitches end up. I want to call you out on
this ground out, regardless of the fact that you know
(26:52):
you beat it by a half step. Like there's missing calls,
and then it seems like Angel Hamers is doing it
because he just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Well. I do think that there is a lesson in
this for everyone who does a job in the public
sphere that mistakes, mistakes are part of the job, Mistakes
are expected, and it is often how we handle those
mistakes that in a lot of ways defines the way
(27:19):
in which the public opinion perhaps is shaped. And I
do think there were multiple moments in which perhaps after
a game or a MYS call, the famous Adam Rosales
home run that wasn't in Cleveland years ago, where and
I'm sorry I made a mistake, would have gone a
long way. And I think that again that's and that
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is one thing as we talk about, whether it's Angel Ornandez,
there are times when Joe West was in the headlines too.
Transparency goes a long way, and when a situation comes
up and an umpire talks about it, at least you
want to be able to say, I spoke with the media,
I knowledge what happened. Jim Joyce perfect example, one of
(28:03):
the toughest moments on a baseball field. The way that
he handled it was exemplary for years to come. And
I think that perhaps looking back, and maybe for MLB
and umpires looking forward, that yes, you hope to have
a your best homeplight, ball strike people calling the calls
in the biggest moments. That is one major part of
(28:24):
the postseason. I'm a big believer in if some of
the greate balls and strikes, let them just keep calling
balls and strikes as much as their body will tolerate
it as opposed to rotating through a really good based
umpire to call balls and strikes. And maybe it's not
the strong suit. I think that's one thing to think about.
But the second piece is transparency is always the way,
and graciousness and admitting wrong tends to go a long
(28:46):
way in our society. Still, it is not a lost art.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Suing the league saying you were slighted when you're ranking
twenty second doesn't help either. Last one for you real quick, JP,
this one has got somes to it today the incorporation
after a three year research project of the Niger League
stats into Major League Baseball. So we see some changes
a top this. How how's this gone over through through
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the industry in terms of I think you're important.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
And it's it's an important part of the history to
where Josh Gibson, Cool, Papa bell Oscar Charleston. We need
to think about their place in the game. And if
we're going to be real and honest about this, clearly
they they would have put up numbers similar numbers had
they had the opportunity to play, and it was clearly
(29:39):
not their fault that they did not have the opportunity
to play, and that to me is the effort to
write the historical wrong. And and this is not it's
not taking away numbers of other people have put up.
It's merely recognizing that which the Negro League's players had done.
And I think it's the right thing to do. I
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know that the effort that Bob Kendrick and his amazing
team at the Negro League's museum and put into for
a long time to make sure that these players are
recognized the way they should be. And Joe Posnansk, I
think about the Baseball one hundred book that he wrote
that I'm looking at right now on my shelf. Look
at where Oscar Charleston was in that book, and Norman
Turkey Searns here in Detroit. There are so many powerful
(30:23):
stories that I hope that this change does two things.
Number one gives the proper historical recognition to players who
deserved it. And number two makes those of us, who
obviously are of a younger age and we're not watching
the Negro Leagues in person, we're alive at that time,
gives us a moment to pause, reflect, consider, celebrate the achievements.
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I think that's really important for us to really think
about going forward.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Rossi,
the Pope, John Palm Rose, the MLB Network insider as always,
shad your time, thanks so much, and if the Mets
make a trade tonight, we'll call you back.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Please do you guys this amazing time of year. And yes,
I'll probably text David. I may give him a day
or two after the double letters sleep.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Probably gonna thanks buddy, I'll talk to JP. I'm gonna
give him a couple of days. Yeah, give him a
couple of days, give him a couple Send.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Him some ice cream or something, street meet, I don't know,
something to make him feel street meat.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen
live from the tyreq dot com Studios. Yes again, just
still feels like okay. Mavericks waiting, when are they gonna
throw the hammer down? Luca got some rest on the bench,
throwing up Alla up since he's come back in Kyrie
Ona floater. Eight minutes to go, eight and a half
to go. It is a one point lead for the
t Wolves over the Mavericks, who are looking to win
(31:47):
and head to the NBA Finals. But speaking of the
NBA Finals. Speaking of the Stanley Cup Finals, we talked
about this a couple of days ago, but now it
is it is def con one is a serial. Most seriously, yes,
it is deaf on one to get the greatest idea
in sports going, and it's gotta be now. We get
to that coming up next right here, Jason and Mike
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
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Speaker 1 (32:18):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tireck dot Com Studios, Minnesota and Dallas
eighty nine eighty eight te Wolves. With the lead six
minutes left to go in the fourth quarter, Dallas could
be six minutes away from the NBA Finals. Meanwhile, Rangers
(32:39):
in the Panthers two to two late third period. Tomorrow night,
of course, Dallas Stars look to go up three games
to one on Edmonton as they try to reach a
Stanley Cup Final. Frostburg loving every moment of it. I mean,
it is time at the Oilers. Well documented, Like we
mentioned this a few days ago, but now it's like
you got to get going on this. We need those
cameras following Jerry Jones around to get his reaction as
(33:02):
he watches every Dallas area team except for the Cowboys
play for a championship. This year, you had the Rangers
win the World Series. Okay, we kind of missed the
boat and that nothing we can do. But now you
have the Mavericks and the Stars could be playing for
the chet. Follow You gotta follow Jerry.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You gotta get those cameras now, like office style, like
whatever you wherever you have cameras. One's gotta follow him
every second of the day and follow him. Just see
what it's like when he's watching the Mavericks continue to
win and the Stars continue to win, and people keep
writing in the Dallas Morning News don't.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Know what Jerry's doing, don't know about.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This all and stuff, and really just see the blood
drain from his face and his eyes out get really white,
that he just loses everything, just trying to come to
grips with the fact that all these other teams in
the city all become championship teams. We're worth the most,
we spend the most money.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We're not close over ten thousand days.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I don't have today since the last NFC title
game appearance by the Dallas Cowboys. Meanwhile, you've got winners.
I want winners.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Oh you got you gotta get those cameras out now,
and you have more than that. I mean, this is
this is a great idea, Like this is a great idea.
This this could be the highest rated show in sports.
Forget about Hard Knocks. This is Hard Knocks with Jerry
Jones and just talking about this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's not quite Basketball Wives. But I'm with you because
you'll get two great things. I guarantee you'll get two
great things. Right, You'll get one where Jerry Jones. I
guarantee you will do something to gain a huge headline.
If both of these teams are playing for the championship,
he will do something Cowboys wise to take the end away.
He's gonna do something right. It's just like you know,
(34:44):
Lebron's gonna do something in the in the time off
of me?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Are you kidding? Fighting out? It's a full docu series
where he's got to go pro on his head. You
are gonna top bringing Zeke back. It's gonna be tough
man out of time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Maybe a question, Hey dad, here you go here's here's
eighty five million dollars for next year.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Congratulations. What do you got? Question?
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Is is it more likely that he is aware of
this or that he's just completely unaware that there are
Oh no, no, he knows you kidding, he knows. He I
still got his ag deals. He's not really up on
the news like that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Dave.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
See, I don't think he's in one of those you know,
chambers like they had Darth Baylor. He's on the he's
not like the ESPN app or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Checks.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He's he's in line McMuffin right now. No, No, he's
got stando.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Stephen calls and and Steven call me every five minutes,
let me know what's going on. Every five minutes, let
me know how things are going. Okay, the hockey thing
maybe every ten minutes. Not as many points scored now
it's points, is that what?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It's? Okay? Great?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But basketball? Yeah, every five minutes, call me. I gotta know.
I gotta know now, So you get that, right, you'll
get that. But even even if he isn't aware, I mean,
this is now somebody's job to agitate the hell out
of it. Oh yeah, yeah, you say, it'll prompt action,
whether it's a Dallas local reporter that just keeps calling him,
we need the TMZ reporters that that of the cameraman
and reporter at the same time that finally go, hey,
(36:01):
Dean Kine, how do you feel about not being cast
in Smallville? The return and he's at Costco like unloaded. Well,
everything is fine.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That's so you need doing this.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You can't just have you got the bright light?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, no I thought you just had
a cat phone. No yeah, no, no, no, that's what
you need. You need like, you know, hey, mister de Niro,
can you talk about what happened? Mister de Niro?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I know what.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's what happened, Tony. Uh the other great thing you'll
get right, the other great thing. You'll go there, didn't
you Well, I mean I was thinking about guys losing
their mind today. It happened. I mean, yeah, but that
wasn't It's just.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
A random hey, we found you on the street. He
injected himself into that situation.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Headline of the New York Post was raging Bowl. Of course.
I think he was. He believed he was filming a movie.
Maybe it was it could be yeah, oh something for
a time back, but they told that's what they told them. Yeah, yeah, listen,
I need you to really emote right now, Bob worked
to the mote. Okay, this is what watches that.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
It's gonna check's gonna clear, right. So so you're gonna
get that. You'll you if you follow him, you will
get that from Jerry Jones. And now I really want
to call TMZ to say, just send a guy following
Jerry Jones. Hey, Jerry, it's going to give you up
to I know Steven's gonna call you, but wow, another
three by Lucas an eight point le.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
What do you think, Jerry. The other thing is this
is I want Jerry Jones to submit to a lie
detector where the questions are older, because I could do
it Friday. I didn't know which process are going through.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Lie detector, only about how he feels about the other
Dallas area teams playing for a chance because there was
another owner in sports that was tied to something that
would the prior and test, which was emphatically denied.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
There's look, and there's too many things that you could
ask Jerry Jones he would say no to, but say, hey,
lie detector, just to know how you feel about this,
and if there's a buzzer whenever he lies, so you
can say, like, hey, Jerry, so, how do you feel
about the Dallas Stars making the Stanley Cup Final. I've
always been a big star San. I'm not happy for
them that there's enough room for us here in the city.
(38:00):
Very happy?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Or is it like the Seinfeld thing where you ask
a bunch of innocuous questions then you get deep into
whether Jerry is ahead on Melrose Place or not? Jerry,
how do you feel about Luga Dondrich? Well, I talked
to Mark Cuban. We're both excited. Want to elect your cute.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And old man. I just hambra I did not know
not that he gets bud just a buzzer goes off.
To know that He's like, okay, because you're shaking violently.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
If we were gonna have to take I got sound
a buzzer?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
How to hurt him? O fake buzzer? We just buzz
all the time. I thought the buzz is only going
to go off on a lie? Why is it going
off all the time? You open your mouth, Jerry, are
you all in on this season?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Absolutely? Well? Your definition of all into mine is different okay,
truthful statement. Date when he does.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Do something rash here because it's coming, whether it's a
giant check to see d Lamb or to.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Dad Jack, here's a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
The first question at the presser has to be were
you prompted by the success of the other teams at
the Dallas Market?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Jerry? Are you doing this just because the other teams
are doing well? No, not at all. We had this plan. Nah,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I can't win on this Onegina. I just we're happy
for Dak. I'm happy to pay DAK and uh, I
expect us to be in a super Bowl. Sevin, Who's
about that buzzer? That's not what Stephen, Steven Stephen getting here.
This is not going how I thought it was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
While Steven controlling the buzzer that whole time, I'm stopping.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
We're not doing this anymore. This is we're not speaking
all in happy National Hamburger Day.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I want to hamb it Hamburger Day exit out about
a Fresco exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon coming up next. Are we
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