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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
What a night in the NBA?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The fifty point barrages, lock and load here on a
beautiful Wednesday, Mike Carbon alongside Arnie Spander, no Jason Smith
to night out a little bit under the weather. Perhaps
it's just because the Knicks lost to the Bulls.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I think that's it. I think that's what it's about.
I think one, yeah, yeah, had they won, he would
have been at work today. By the way, you said
the fifty point barrages, Is that not enough to get
people interested in the NBA? I mean it was not
that exciting night with the with the Knicks game coming
down to the last shot and you know, and all
these big points scored. I guess not people still are boarded.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I know you just want to sell, sell, sell the
NBA there's no question. But look, it's the old Kevin Durant.
You don't like it to watch. And right now through
twelve fourteen, wherever we're at on an individual team schedule,
folks have either in or out like we used to be.
The running jokes, I go, I'll start paying attention at Christmas, right,
and now all of a sudden, everybody's mad that nobody's.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Watching in early November.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's kind of funny, right, You've got so many choices audio, video,
and obviously we appreciate you all out there wherever you're listening.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And the wrong team here, the wrong team is thirteen
to know. If the Lakers were thirteen to know, we'd
be talking about that for two hours tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, no, we wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yes you would, yeah, absolutely, you would be who would
be everybody?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do you know me at all? Do you know this show?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Every that's all the whole old sports world would be
talking about if the Lakers were thirteen.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Wells or the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, wait, well I'd have no choice with the Knicks
until Frostburg would gut Smith as he tried to do
it again. But you know, certainly it would it would
have more juice, much take nothing away from the Cleveland
Cavaliers and what they've been able to do thus far,
but the Lakers question marks.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Obviously a lot of air.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
In the our world, right the blog is fear and
in sports talk radio and TV about the Bronny decisions,
and I guess, since we're here, let's let's just stay here.
The decision being made that he'll only play in G
League home games as opposed to traversing up and down
the highways and byways of life to road games. And
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once again the name Bronnie James comes up and everybody
gets all mad and excitable.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The same people that have been hiding in.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Their homes and won't go back into their damn offices
and places of work saying, now, you know what, I've
got a good thing going here. I'm only gonna come
in one or two days a week. Those same people
are now complaining because Bronnie James is being treated this way,
just like the nipotism argument of ah, he doesn't deserve
this whatever. How many people in our business aren'tie have
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gone out of their way to lend a helping hand
to a family member or friend of a fan, you know,
friend of a friend or something like that. But Bronnie James,
any of these headlines come out and it's the worst
thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, you know, Mike, first of all, if you weren't.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Not not all roads are created equal by the no.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I understand that. But if you weren't working tonight, and
I said to the bosses, you know, I really would
love to do a show with my son, who's never
done a national radio show. I'm setting my son up
to fail too. It probably wouldn't be a great show
because it would be his first show. And three, you
don't put him in that position. Look, it was one
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thing to go ahead and have Bronnie playing that one
game so you could be the father son thing. I
understand that. Let's move on. Let him play in the
G League, let him play in the home games, the
away games, and see what he takes from there. But no,
now it's just the home games, and you're gonna bring
him back to the Lakers. It's gott not a hand. Yeah,
there's nepotism, but it's a little bit different when you're
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taking up a roster spot in the NBA. You know,
I mean, let's why, honestly.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Why if it's a guy at the end of the
bench and he goes in and gives you two minutes.
How is that different than a guy at the end
of the bench. Well, nobody's paying to see who is the.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Other guy at the end of the bench that maybe
is trying to, you know, get four years of service
in so he can get benefits or something like, Oh,
so you're going.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Down that road.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
How's that any different than Bronni because Bronnie's dad has money.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
No, because Bronni's not good enough to be in that
slotbe just sit at.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The end of the bench and maybe get in in
trash time. Yeah, hell's that any different? And he sells
tickets and people get excited and buy a T shirt
with his picture on it, versus that guy at the
end of the.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Bench who's only selling stuff to his family.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Nobody's going to the Laker game to see Bronny. They're
gonna see maybe a G League game, but nobody's going
to a Laker game.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No. But the point is when that guy gets off
the bench for a trash time minute, maybe at the
end of a half or maybe at the end of
the game, is that more exciting than another guy? What
just because he had a nice college resume. We're supposed
to kiss.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
His ass and he's, oh, you know what he heard
the no, Well, let's see what's the difference.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
You know, it would be more.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Could go earn a job with another team.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Let's put Lebron and all those kids there on the court.
That'd be even better than for day.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
And if that's what they want to do, that's fine.
It's an entertainment vehicle. It isn't if you're not entertained,
go watch something else. Well, if it was gonna do
it though, But if no, no, no, that's the NBA League.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Why that ain't the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Because you just told me that we'd be talking about
the Lakers for two hours if they were thirteen and
us whether Bronni James is playing eight minutes a night
or sitting on his ass playing video games as the
twelfth man on the bench.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
But Mike, would you want if you're broddy, wouldn't you
go to your dad and say, you know what, Dad,
let me go in the G league, let me work
on my game. You know, I would feel I would
know that I don't deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I don't deserve Yeah, but everybody says that everybody says
that Arnie the I wouldn't want it because I didn't
earn it. Come on, you kidding me? When if they
offered you an eight million dollar contract like they did
Bronnie James, you're saying, you know what, I didn't earn this,
you give it to somebody else. All right, my mass
you're not doing that. Not doing that. Frostburd's not doing that.
(06:38):
Ilo is jumping through When I held up a dollar
because I was gonna go to the vending machine.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I'll tell you what I'm gonna do, Mike. I'm an
airline pilot and I'm welcoming you on my flight. Oh
and by the way, I wanted my kid to fly
with me today, so I'm gonna let him land the
plane there.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Hey hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
know what I know that is species No, that's that's
just now you're just being ingenuous and silly. There are
actually federal regulations on flying and playing versus some guy
bouncing the basketball and trying to score or defend someone
from doing so. Come on, that's a terrible argument, you
know it, But that makes no sense. How dare you
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waste my airtime in my space.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
With that, you have to feel like you've deserved it.
You have to feel like you've earned it. And if
you're given the place, if you're given the spot, it's
not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He's not getting a thirty minute a night jobs. It
is the point. It is the point.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
You have to earn your way into the game. You
have to go ahead and earn your way into the roster.
That's the way it's beIN. Look, if you want to
go ahead and have him on some of the games,
but let's face it, he's not even gonna be one
of the better players in the G League. What are
you thinking about? If you're in the G League busting
your butt trying to make the Lakers, are you feeling
like it's worth it? Do you want to be traded?
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You want to go somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
If you're working in the G League, you're working to
get a roster spot somewhere, right, I put it on
tape and get an opportunity, whether it's for the Lakers
or for another squad.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And guess what. Life isn't fair, aren't he?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I've heard there are impediments all over the place.
Why are you so for that?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
He has good that he takes up a spot that
he hasn't earned or deserved. That's what I'm the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's standing up against everybody to think it's the worst
injustice ever created in a sporting event, which is what
I see in every headline and from every talking head
and promo on our network and everything else, that this
is the worst thing that's ever been created. Part of
it because everybody hates lebron James. But you know, for
Bronnie James, if you're given an opportunity, go make the
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most of it. And if he fails, he fails. But
the fact that he got an opportunity should not suddenly
be all is wrong with the world.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You know, how many people if you took a poll,
and I'm just saying, percentage wise you think it's good
that Bronny is on the Lakers, I would say it'd
be less than ten percent that would say I agree
with you on that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And those ninety percent people are entitled to their wrong
headed opigions.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Because that's what they're saying there on that's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
What what is it changing materially to what the Lakers
have done to this point in the season, Unless in
the locker room, everybody's pissed off because they didn't get
those other two minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's not if that's the.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Two minutes, Mike, it really isn't. It's just about the
just the way the optics of the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
See no, no, see there it is the optics. It
doesn't look good, it doesn't smell good. Well, too bad.
That doesn't bother you. No, it doesn't bother me. It's
an entertainment vehicle. And if for those fans when he
comes in for two minutes Cleveland or opening night in
La or whatever else, folks get fired up and guess
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what they vote with their wallets, right if they are
buying Bronni and lebron stuff. I watched it in the
trading card world when folks were just buying to get
a an autographed card. All of these random inserts and
whatever else. Folks are betting with their with their wallets
and lamitting with their wallets.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Why any other Laker players have kids go to college?
We just will have a whole bench of Laker players
with their kids so they can go ahead and be
a player of fifteen, fourteen, thirteen to twelve. And that's
what the that's not stop it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I mean, my goodness, man, we've turned this whole thing
into a circus. That is what it's become. It's like, oh,
look at him just to get brought into the game.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, no, no, but but again, like and look, I
work in sports talk radio. I'm not dismissing the level
of gravity.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I get to the games that I love so much.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But this does not offend my sensibilities to where all
is now wrong with the NBA because this guy got
a job.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
No no, no, no, But that's.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
The argument you're taking, you and your vocal ninety percent
of how terrible this is. This is awful for this
two minutes a game where this guy comes in, he
plays defense on a couple of positions, possessions, He maybe
takes a shot that he.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Misses, and he goes and he sits down again. Why
is that bad?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
But then then you're saying this, here's the part of
the game that's strictly for entertainment value. Because everything up
till now was mostly athletic.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's all in entertainment vehicle. Anyway, that's the point.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Why don't you just go ahead and do what was
it like the White Sox did it? Was it Eddie Goodell?
Who sure, if he's.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Tall, why not do you just do say my team?
My team just lost one hundred and twenty one game.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You can argue that most of those guys didn't really
try during the course of the season. Right, Is that
any worse than Brownie James coming in for two minutes
of an NBA game?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I don't know you that is that where we're ahead
of two now?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, but but my point is if you're going to
have sequences in games where it's like, all right, my
starters are gonna sit right and right, we position it
to where here, here's where this part of the game is.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
If we can keep it to where we only give
away four points of our leaving like that's the way
you're doing the metrics right every four minutes or whatever else.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, who was the coach's son in college that came
in an end of the game and he got posterized
the other day.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's just like, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
He got it was like about it, I think maybe
a week ago.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh, you know, you're exactly you're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I had it written down last week when we were
doing the he was just he.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Got dunked on and the ball stolen in like thirty seconds.
You could tell that the.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It was Mark Ughes kid. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, no business being out there.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But he goes out there, he gets posterized. Is anybody
the worse for it? No, for Ronnie James because of
his dad and the largest of the Laker brands.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Like you're making a joke of the Laker brand.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's not only the Laker brand, it's the also the
NBA across the chest. And it hurts the.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Inequity of the How does it hurt the integrity of the.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Game, because it's always the You always knew that the
NBA were for the best athletes out there, the top
fifteen or whatever it is on each team, plus injury.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
See, now you're going into theory.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Go going to Giannis who had his fifty nine today,
Tell me his brother should be running around rosters.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
No, but he does keep him company. They get to.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, Brownie James can't do that too. I don't think
I brodneys to see what happened there.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
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Speaker 5 (13:33):
Everybody knows that Giannis's brothers shouldn't be there either.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, but but that's fine. Why does he get the
same blowback because he's taller?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Okay, so one of the Lakers gonna sign Jay Moore,
who's Genie Bus's new husband. Are we gonna go Is
he gonna get the play in the game or are
we gonna if he wants to you?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Why not? I mean, come on, how about we let
you go out there? Are usually gonna play.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
For the Knicks? Yeah, Spike Lee gonna play like.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
He's known more as a fan than a movie director anymore.
Some of the greatest movies of the eighties and nineties,
and now he's just Hey, where's he gonna pop?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You know?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Wils Farrow played in spring trading baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
He did for multiple teams.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
There's a whole trading card set because he played each position.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Yeah, I guess that was pretty popular, right.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Did anybody complain that he came in pitched for an inning?
Are you to catch it for an inning?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
They shut up and they watched it and they were entertained.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Bug Tyber. You probably know this. The author George Plimpton
remember him, Yeah, played for what the Detroit Lions, didn't
He played quarterback for a preseason game.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
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and all up in their fields. You know what, go
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Speaker 4 (16:01):
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Me Mike Carmon.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No Jason Smith tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
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Speaker 3 (16:15):
We're gonna go out to the hotline now.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Arnie bring in an old friend, longtime friend of the show,
NFL writer Scribe.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
He's got books on Amazon. I go buy them.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
The l Way book, highly recommended, the other one saying
your kid's not that special. Maybe you need that one, Arnie.
Ye all that to say at Jason Cole sixty two
where you want it. He's a Hall of Fame voter
as well. It's our buddy Jason Cole. Hey, J Cole,
how are you?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
The book is talled Shut Up Your Kid's not that great?
Buy it everywhere? You know Tom Brady Sr. Who just
called me this week and we chatted. He ordered like
ten more books.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
How about that he's.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Gonna get get him at the Friends. So there you go.
It should be a bestseller New York Times. Beth Belolas,
shut Up Your Kids not that great? But that lay
book is pretty good too.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I like that lay Book a lot. There's a lot
of there's a lot of gold in there, no question.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Some fun. That's a it's a fun ride.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
By the way. Smith's dad, Walt just bought a bunch
more copies of your Kids Not that great too?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Did you give them to Smith?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
To my dad?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
A little drive by? And how about a fresco where
you find him? I wish him well as he recovers
from illness. Hey, J Cole, my team is now the
bigger dumpster fire than Smith's. Did you think we'd hit
that point in week ten of the National Football League season?
Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know, I thought week three or four that they
had some answers, and I know the competition was weaker,
but Shane Waldren got exposed in a big, big way.
And aside from that, you know that the end of
the game against Washington where they almost pulled that game
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out and then they fell apart. You know, it's been
sort of a nosedes since that play. But I don't
know that it's that play as much as those last
six minutes when you know, when Caleb Williams is leading
the comeback, you kind of realize Caleb was the one
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calling the plays at that point and things are moving
so fast he's just getting the line running it. And
then when Waldron has left to his own devices, it's
just a nightmare. Like the only time against New England
on Sunday where I thought, okay, Caleb's got chances when
they were in hurry up and again he's calling his
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own plays, but the protection was so bad that even then,
like there's just nothing to do. And I'm not saying
Caleb is blameless. He does hold the ball too long
and he's trying to do too much and he's going
to learn the hard way not to do that, and
there have been moments this season when he's gotten rid
of it. But the protection schemes and the inability to
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get guys open quickly, except on you know, just your
you know, tough out plays, you know, right on the
sideline where you know you're not going to hit every
one of those aside from those throws. I mean, Waldon's
offense was just a nightmare. And I don't know what
happened from Seattle to here, but you know, the I mean,
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especially the protection scheme is just awful. I mean the
offensive line is not great, but it's it's better than this, right,
This is this is this is just like this is
watching Bob Abeleini bear, look.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
At you now.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You love it like taking me to my childhood right there.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Right, yeah, yeah, Bob Abeleini. Maybe we go back to
you know, Bobby Douglass, you know, like run for his life.
Although Bobby Douglas was a little bit of a shower
unf being, but yeah, I mean I talked to him
one time. God he was just like so angry. He
just I was I was a better runner than Michael Vick.
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I'm like, yeah, Bobby, he didn't play. I mean, like,
what are you trying to do here? Bobby? Stop? Anyways?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Moving along, Yeah, you know, I want I want to
ask you about Dion because he's already come out and
said he's not gonna let his son or Hunter go
to the wrong team. What's the wrong team? How is
this going to work out? This is not this is
something that's gonna be pretty big later on. Is he
just gonna say, don't draft these kids and we're going
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to the Raiders or to we're all going to the
Cowboys because I'm going to be the new head coach.
What's happening here?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I can't. I can't believe that's too smart to deal
with Jerry's nonsense, and Jerry won't pay him well enough
to do that job right, Like dion knows what's up.
I'm not saying Beon's the greatest coach or anything, and
that Dionna's faultless or any of those kinds of things
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that beyond all in total, I think Dean's really interesting.
He's doing some fun things in Colorado, and I like
the you know, the overall directions, but there are still
a lot of stuff where you go that's not coaching.
And when he's doing like midweek appearances on podcasts, it's like,
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are you supposed to be coaching? Your team likes to
be running the show like that. Doesn't work in the NFL.
You can't be that big a personality, and it's just
never gonna work with Jerry. I think that this is
the point where you know, somebody's gonna take the job,
and he's gonna you know, he's going to pay well
(21:53):
enough that certainly somebody somebody's you know, But but he's
not getting somebody like Ben Jhonson the Cowboys. Cowboys fans
are talking about, Oh, get Ben Johnson, get him, get
this guy. The same people with with leverage don't work
for Jerry at this point. Desperate people work for Jerry.
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And Mike McCarthy was the desperate guy who got stuck
with that job and did a terrific job for three years,
and then Jerry didn't support him.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
What about the joo? What what about the draft? How
is he going to make sure that his kids go
to the right draft, right team?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You can?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I mean, look, the player always has more leverage than
than the team. You can always do that. I mean,
Eli proved that, Kelly still for proved John Elway approved that.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The court.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yeah, Eli is not that long ago. So you can
just say I'm not doing this, I'm not playing I'm
not playing for you. And Shador is a junior, right,
so he's got he can go back. Now he's saying
he's not going back. And I don't think he's enrolled
in class, which will be interesting thing. But hey, it's Colorado.
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What do they care? Uh grade? When do we care
about that?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well, especially today in today's age, even more so J Cole.
We used to laugh about it. Wink wink, you got
your whatever transcript says you took what you took.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Now it's uh even even wilder, right, So she.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Doork has has leverage to say I'm going to play here,
I'm not going to play here. And the question is
whether the Giants will do it. You know, what are
they sitting with the number two pick? Who's got number one?
It's Jacksonville, right, and I don't know, I mean Jackson'sville.
Obviously it's erectly could trade that pick and somebody could
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jump them. But I imagine it's going to come down
to do you have do you have the giants? And
what's what's the coaching situation? Do they bring in Bell
Belichick and the Bell check say okay, I'll take Chador
Sanders or I don't know why I deal with Shador
Sanders and if they can reach some kind of Dayton Deon'
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is probably going to say, okay, go play for Belichick.
He'll take care of you.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
That's that's what I would think, because the Giants are
generally a well running organization. I mean, yes, obviously the
Daniel Jones Brian day Ball era has not gone well,
and they've had their certain amount of ups and downs.
But when they've gotten the right quarterback, they supported the
right quarterback, and they supported Eli for a long long
time and they made that work.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
As we sit here tonight, J Cole, we have eleven
teams with three or fewer wins.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
What would be.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Your pH d thesis as to why the NFL has
such a well problem in terms of quality of play.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
All we've had a mass exodus and quarterback allows. But
five to eight years right, I'm over lost. You know,
Peyton Manning la Man and Ben Roth was for you know,
even a guy who's a league average starter like Ryan Tannehill.
Quarterbacks drive the league. You don't have quarterbacks, you know,
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you don't function. Alex Smith out of the league, you know,
not a great player, but a really good one, you know,
who makes your team function. All these things that allow
your team to be better don't exist right now. And
we've got a lot of young quarterbacks who are having
their ups and downs, a lot of teams that are
tanking looking for the next quarterback. And I will also
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add on to this, and it's you know, this is
a classic old guy thing to say, but I'm an
old guy, so I will say it. Offensive line play
is awful. So if you don't have a quarterback who
can make up for the difference in which your offensive
line lacks, you're just terrible on off I mean, look
at the Raiders, like that's just that's non functional. With
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Carolina Panthers, it's non functional New Orleans right now. After
you know, a good start to the season when they
were healthy, as soon as things fall apart and they're
not healthy anymore. Not functional, Tennessee. Not functional. These are
these are teams that are playing atrocious football. I mean,
Denver is getting by with a rookie quarterback because they're
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leaning so heavily into their defense and saying, look, just
don't screw up games and our defense will cover for
you and we'll just run a bunch of close, close games.
And you know, they should be six and four. They
you know, they if they don't get the field goal blocks.
But that's how this league is going right now. I
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mean it's just there are teams that, I mean, they're
really they're just unwatchable. The Giants Tans in Carolina was
an unwatchable game. Jackson Jacksonville with Mac Jones, I'm watchable.
And Trevor Lawrence, as you know, has regressed. I mean
it's just you know, this is this is a nightmare Cleveland.
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It's just not awful, so you know, and and again
it's the lack of having functional quarterbacks and depth along
the offensive line so that you can at least function
if you have an average quarterback.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Well you mentioned all the non functional quarterbacks out there.
What about Aaron Rodgers. Do you think he's really thinking
about retiring next year? Should he come back? Does he
really want to come back? I think he's got something
to prove. But I don't think he's ever gonna call.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
He said today he wanted to play again next year,
right probably, I mean, we'll see. I mean there's there's
some higahwuasca that's going to be consumed, and there's there's
some kind of darkness retreat into the Yeah, I mean
does it go into the bad Lands? Yeah? I mean
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would you do would you do the Darkness Retreat or
would you go to the Black Hills? I mean where
where would you do the Darkness Retreat this time? I
mean would you go up into Canada?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I really trail.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I don't know, happalation trail a little. It's too southern
for for for Rogers. Look, I think he's going to
come back and he's gonna play because he's not want to.
He doesn't want to go out on this note. Like
he went to New York with thoughts of he was
going to raise his profile be a champion in New York,
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and so far the two years are basically summarized by you,
you know, like like that's how this has gone for him,
and and so it's it's completely the antithesis of the
concept that he wanted. And since this is really all
about him, he's going to want to go back and
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try and say, oh, you know, I went to New
York and I became champion here, and you know, can
I can I host Jeopardy? You know, can I do
something like that? Because that's the transition he wanted to
make instead, he's more likely to be hanging out with
RFK shooting bears.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's that's that's that's what I see in between, you know,
doing anti vax commercials. I mean, I you know, like,
you know, the funny part about the Jets is that
a lot of the indicators on that team show that
they should be much more competitive than they are, right,
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But this is a team that is so deep in
disarray that the first time anything falls apart, everybody looks
around and goes, yeah, whatever, you know, like they they
have no resilience because the guy who is trying to
give them a sense of resilience got off by the
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owner who's just clueless. I mean, like it's a really
it's a really tough thing to decide, like which is
the worst owner in the league right now? When you've
got Mark Davis, Woody Johnson, Dave Pepper and who who
am I missing?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, you missed the Hollis McCaskey.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
There's another one about house McCaskey. I mean, that's just
a tradition. I'm like, no other there's but there was
one other team that just, you know, like they completely
just screwed it up this year. No shot. Sean is trying.
He's just I mean, he doesn't know what he's doing
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in terms of soot call. But but but he but
he really wants to. I mean, he really wants to
be good. It's just he hasn't he hasn't found the
right people around him. I mean, but Trent Balkey is
Trent Balkey. Yeah, yeah, Like I just there there's just
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there's an array of owners who just have not figured
it out. And Woody Johnson pulled the worst maneuver of
the year. Oh no, Jerry, Jerry, You're not getting a
running back for a team that was built around having
a running game and a functional running game. Like everything
that they did, everything that they did last year to
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help back out was We're going to run first and
put Dak into situations where we can do play action
and you know, be going downhill with our offense that
keeps him out of bad situations. Well, you gotta have
a running you.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Gotta have that.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Even Even Tony Pollard, who wasn't world beating, is light
years ahead of what you got.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Jake Cale, I got to stop you here.
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Speaker 7 (32:14):
And there's a lot to celebrate in the NBA because
there have been two fifty point games. Tonight victory women
Yama of the San Antonio Spurs the first fifty point
game of his career, and they're one thirty nine to
one thirty win over the Washington Wizards. He scored his
fifty to thirty two minutes, including eight three pointers at
at twenty years of age, becomes the fourth youngest player
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at NBA history to have a fifty point game. The
only others to score fifty at a younger age Brandon Jennings,
Lebron James, and Devin Booker. Milwaukee's Giannis Antedakunpo meanwhile did
fifty and a little more on WTMJ.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Gianas, with sixteen seconds to work with, drives inside and
stuffs it down on the right hand.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Fifty nine points.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Now per Giannis tapping his chest as he goes the
other way, saying this.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Is my house.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
This is my house.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Meanwhile, when I tap my chest, it usually means I
have indigestion. Anyway, fifty nine points in Milwaukee's one twenty
seven to one twenty overtime win over the Detroit Pistons.
He also had fourteen rebounds and seven assists. The Cleveland
Cavaliers became the six team in NBA history to open
a season thirteen and zero with a one fourteen one
to h six win at Philadelphia. Chicago's Kobe White made
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three free throws with three seconds left for a one
twenty four one twenty three win over the next Jalen
Brunson came back by barely missing a jumper in and
out at the buzzer that would have won the game.
And right now, the Memphis Grizzlies hold a seventy nine
seventy one lead over the Lakers in LA with six
thirty four left in the third quarter. Mike and Arney
back to you.
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He's Ernie Spanier in for Jason Smith on Mike Carmon
coming up next Fight Night this weekend. Are you excited
about it that grown from? Arnie says, well, maybe not
so much. We'll discuss next here on Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Hey, welcome back and Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Smith Tonight, our guy,
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Speaker 3 (34:47):
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Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yes, I'm looking to this. No, you misunderstood me. I
am totally looking forward to this. Matter of fact, I
know it's on Netflix. I was telling my son today,
make sure that. But you know, I have no problem
signing on the Netflix. I don't want any problem. I
want to see the fight. I mean, I was planning
it today. I actually asked the guys, what like an
(35:30):
hour ago, what time is the fight? I think I
found hard but I'm all into this. I would pay
one hundred dollars if it was like pay per view
or something to see this.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm you would not pay one hundred dollars?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Oh yes I would. I'm totally. I think this is great.
I think Tyson's I want to see Tyson rock him.
I'm gonna bet on Tyson.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Okay, Tyson is plus one seventy four. He's done something
I'm reading on.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I thought I thought he was at least he used
to be at least like two and a half to
win almost three to one.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Jake Paul's a minus two fifteen favorite, according an article
that just went up uh minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I saw the workout. I mean, Tyson's still badasses ever.
I mean, obviously he's not like he was when he's younger,
but man, he can still throw a punch. And Jake
Paul's never been hit like this, even by a fifty
something year old Mike Tyson. And by the way, Mike,
I think a lot of our listeners right now are
are going to be into this. I think they're like, yeah,
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I'm all four. Maybe they wouldn't pay one hundred dollars,
but if they have Netflix, they're good. Definitely tuning in.
I mean, to me, my Friday night is I have
a great Friday night. I got Arizona basketball at nine
o'clock in Wisconsin. I got the Tyson fight, and I
got Arizona football at ten fift That does like it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Mayson'll be the one win out of it.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
You had to go there, but well, I mean you
set it up and I just took a big left
left wing there. You know, I did my big left cross.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah, you came with the left cross.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
So eight o'clock Eastern time. When it starts, it's.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Gonna be a and I'm I can't wait for it.
I'm all into it night. Like I said, I think
it's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, I mean for Paul. I mean, look, it's an exhibition,
you know, owing to the earlier conversation we were having
about the two minute spurts of certain sons of NBA players,
you know, it's the so much handwringing over legacies or
whatever else. You know, who defines his legacy. Mike Tyson
decides what his legacy is. And if you're remembering Mike
Tyson of what he was, you know what, that's a
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long time ago. That's many weary miles down in his
history when he was the biggest bat. I'm not saying
he still can't mess you up. Like there's a great
line from the movie Beautiful Girl saying, hey, the legend's dead.
It's Michael Rappaport going after Matt Dillon saying, hey the
legend's dead. Okay, we're not in high school anymore. It's like,
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and the one guy pipes up, he goes, yeah, the
legend can still blank you up.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
But did you see Tyson's trainer. He still wears the
body protector.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He does.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I mean, come on, why what are you afraid of that?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Big boy?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Hey, hey, hey, you're still not going to take the
body blows just for the hell of it.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
He's fifty nine years older.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, fifty nine year old guy punching at you. You're
gonna wear the vest man. You don't need to be
bruised up. You still got living to do. Even the
average fifty nine year old guy can throw you a
couple of blows that will.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
And that's my point.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
All right, here's Mike Tyson talking about this matchup and
what it means, family history, all of that.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Outside of the fans watching and all the eyes on you,
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
The most important ones are your family. Your kids are
out here, everyone's coming in to see you on Friday.
What does it mean to have family with you? Well,
it's the family's everything, but my kids. To my children,
I'm nobody. And then that night they're gonna find out
the father's every.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Special crowd gets fired up, right. Obviously, you could take
that in any which way you want in terms of
his life as a dad and his relationships there, but
certainly as a boxer, been a minute since the big
stage and being able to show what Mike Tyson once
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was right the old if you want to get a
beer and they rang the bell, you probably missed the fight.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
You did say you were all into it though? Are
you all into it?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Into its spectacle? I'll be on air right or getting
ready to be on air. Actually, by time this bout
goes on, I'll probably be on air. It'll be meet
Carrie Rhodes on Friday night as we'll sit here live
from the tiraq dot com Fox Sports Radio studios. And
I'm all in for it, right pugilism. I watched my
WWE live events. I love boxing events when the schedule
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permits watching through. Yeah, live events for me is everything.
And I know some dismiss it just a you know,
cash grab or legacy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
It's like, well you to judge, why the guy? Do
you know? You watch it?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Or don't write the old Kevin Durant, you don't like it,
don't watch Mike Tyson plus two forty to win via
knockout or TK. I'm curious right to see the skill level,
to see the speed, to see Jake Paul, who's got
what a ten and one record and all of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You know that that he's.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
I want to shut him up and I want to
want him to show who did he lose to? Who
did Jake Paul lose to?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Did I have that right? I reatten an article it, Yeah,
twenty seven to one in the boxing career. I don't
I don't have the uh, I don't have the opponent.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Again, it's kind of a summary, including a lot of
the betting odds, which I know is your forte mister Spaniard.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, so that's really kind of where I wish I
could bet like a million on Tyson.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Well, if you had the million, go do it. That's
your house. See what your wife has to say about
that exactly. Now, No, that's not quite that confident in it.
There you go at stick a genius one where you
find are Andy find me over at Swollen Dome. As
we continue, we turn our attention back to the wonderful
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