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June 27, 2025 • 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss why we need to appreciate Clayton Kershaw's next milestone because it may never be done again. Jason brings up how Chris Sale is over 2,500 strikeouts and could be next on the list but will need to pitch for a few more years at a high level. Mike brings up the fact that the other all-time milestones like 3,000 hits and others may also never be done again either.

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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(00:59):
gonna say it. I'll just say thank you. I know
you're gonna say welcome back to first place, So thank you.
I appreciate that ahead of time. So well we'll get
that out of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Living and dying in mid June with the the rise
and fall. I mean, are you guy that sits and
watch the stock ticker from sun up to sundown every day?
Or what? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
No, no, no, I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Man. How often you check in your four oh one k?
The kids college fun? Oh damn it, we're down thirty
June dollars. Two dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's a turkey sandwich you won't get to eat. Oh no,
turkey sandwich. No, no, no, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
A very I have a very good rule for how
to be happy about your investments. Whenever they're seemingly bad
news and the market is down, don't look at it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's where I go and I buy more when you
get good news. When do you get good news? Hey,
go look at it, Go feel excited.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's what do you do? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
What do you get there? Boy? Oh? Another day like
it feels like every other week. Is the Dow is
down lower than it's been since the Great Depression, and
then it bounces back. Don't look at it those days.
Very simple. You don't like it, don't watch It's Kevin Durant'
strategy and advice.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Could work for so many things. Yeah, but my my,
I can't watch my portfolio.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's gone down.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You don't like it, don't watch Oh, okay, all right,
then I'm not cashing it out today. I guess I
don't feel like I need to watch they Okay, kdy?
That works for everything.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
That is one of the big deals of it, all right,
is it. If you don't need it today, you're good.
If it's going to hell, then you're probably gonna get
a notice telling you it's going to hell, and then
then you may have to act. But otherwise, you know, long,
long term goals, long term goals, kind of like some
of these projects. In the second round of the NBA draft,

(02:46):
I've been alternating between the Pigs and duf and Schmertz.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Speaking of you don't like it, don't watch Round two
of the NBA tre Yeah, here's some.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Guys you might have heard of though, I mean, Broom
went to the sick serious, So that's good, you know that.
With Barnheiser drafted by the Detroit Pistons. I'm sorry by
ok see, go cats.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
This No, this would be a great tagline to watch,
uh for for Night two of the NBA Draft. Hey,
here's some guys you may have heard of that that's
what it is, Hey.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I gotta sell however I can.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Hey, there may be some guys you've heard of that
get drafted tonight, so don't miss it. He is, we
have night two of the draft. Boy, this is so good.
There should be a third night.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
From both of you right now.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Extended disrespect.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
These guys are living their dreams, and I'm here for it.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I'm talking about the fact that you haven't even wished
me or drafty. Hey, just disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
First of all, Happy Curshaw Days.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
A little late, buddy, I.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Have a bit how is it late?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
We just we've been starknes ago.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
You mortally wounded him by not getting to Kershaw Day
fast enough.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
And and you know it's it's not enough that I
had planned to do a big uh Clayton Kershaw top
in fifteen minutes because we're going to talk about this.
You know, three k's away from three thousand.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Dude, you have him retiring like four years ago.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, I didn't have that. I said, how many more
starts does he have left? And I'm going to be
right on the button with that one.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
By the way, I mean, who does he get to
get his three thousandth against fucks? And there you go.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
He may get four thousand against the White Sox in
the same game.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
I might have to to gothday buddy.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Why, I've already got my order in for the Tops
Now card to commemorate it.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'm gonna be buying a tone of those.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, don't miss the draft because there may be
someone you know that you've heard of that could be
the slogan for Night.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
One as well. I mean, but at least Night one
we have, you know, the drama of Cooper Flag. You
have big shit. This is you know, this is the thing.
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
All day one of the big topics has been, okay,
how do we how do people react to the NBA Draft,
And a big topic has been well, outside of Cooper Flagg,
there's a lot of players nobody's heard of. There's trades
all over the place. You don't know where anybody gets drafted,
and Colin Coward is getting selected, and you know, I understand,
I understand, I get it, but there's only so much
you can do. It's Night one of the draft. Night

(05:09):
one of the draft isn't the problem. It's when the
NBA thought, hey, we're really feeling it. We're gonna extend
this thing to two nights. Whoa Okay, Like last year,
I kind of get it because hey, Bronny is going
night too, and it's a one person draft.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
And it was Browny.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
But like this is this is where you know, the
NBA some things I don't understand, Like I don't understand
why they don't make the the actual draft lottery its
own thing, its own television show, and a standalone product.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, we won't do that.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
We're gonna jam it in between Game three and Game four,
the second round of the NBA playoffs. But oh hey,
but but night too. We're gonna put this draft into
two nights. When the second night is is literally nobody
anybody is hurt, unless unless it's a unless you're the
fan of the team the guy is drafted from right,
Like like if you're a of Saint John's, you want

(06:01):
to see when R. J. Lewis gets drafted right, or
if you're a fan of Kentucky but you're not watching
the draft because I don't. I don't care where my
guy goes. I don't care that hey he's gone right,
Oh that's great, off, I'll find it out tomorrow. Like
this is a night where I go, Man, we sure
we needed this. We sure we needed two nights of
the NBA Draft. I mean, I think you could really
have Night one of the NBA Draft and go after

(06:21):
the first fifteen picks. Okay, we take it back to
regularly schedule programming and we can get you back when
something happens. But I mean, clearly night too. At the end,
you gotta spice it up with something. Man, this is
this is valuable real estate and you're basically running unopposed.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's it's a regular.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Average night in Major League Baseball, it's regular season for
the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
The NFL has gone. You are running unopposed, and you're.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Putting out a product that's just Ah, I'm not even
blaming ESPN's coverage of it.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's just you're putting out a product that This is why.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
The MLB Draft isn't really televised because you have to
you have to follow it online to find out where
people are getting drafted. Like that's kind of where this
is one step above the MLB Draft. Like, if you're
gonna continue to do this, this is the night the
NBA has to fix. Forget about Night one, this is
the night they have to fix because you have this
whole week with trades and free agency, and this is

(07:12):
where you gotta build some stuff in. This is where
you talk to agents and talk teams say Okay, we
don't want any business announced while the NBA Finals are
going on, but hey, how about we have something. It's
okay to do it a day or two later. How
about we have at night too? In the draft, like,
this is where you have to figure things out. This
is where it's all right, Hey, our standalone product here,
the NBA Draft isn't quite as strong as it could be.

(07:32):
So this is like, let's add stuff. But especially night two. Hey,
don't forget tune in Night two. We're gonna get the
details of a big trade or something else. Or Shaan's
is out and he's breaking all kinds of news and
people are still calling woj and woe. Just tell him
to blank off. I don't do this anymore. I mean,
this is the night you need to figure something out.
It's a Thursday night, it's a big night for television.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You gotta figure that out.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Well. And that's the thing, right, is that it's still
gonna outrate whatever rerun they were gonna show of something else, right,
or maybe maybe they draw crazy numbers for Cornhole. I'm
not quite sure, but I think part of it is
the decision making of, hey, let's go to two nights.
You're always looking at what the NFL does and their
successes and thinking, again, it's going to be better advertising

(08:15):
and marketing because if you want in on day one,
well you got to buy some day two, even if
it's at a discounted rate. So from a dollars and
cents it makes sense. Uh. The other part is you
couldn't make it a one year event because then you
openly admit, damn it, we only did it for Bronnie
and no, no executives gonna do that. It's because all
you were accused was with being a bunch of sycophants

(08:38):
and bowing to the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
We only we only did the second round at all.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
But that's the thing I would love. Yeah, if an
executive got in front of a microphone and flat out
said that here's an actual press conference. Yeah we're going
back to one night. We did it one year and worked.
You're a bunch of SAPs. Thanks for the views and
the and the looks were moving on. But I think
for the last couple of years we've championed the lottery

(09:07):
as its own standalone event. Right, Yeah, you've got the
ping pong ball thing I say doing.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
On that night.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
All right, you're on the clock. You got the number
one pick. Let's go, I mean doing all in one fels.
You have all these workouts, whatever else, bring in as
many guys as you want, and then it's go time,
like it's a fantasy draft. Come on, now, you're on
the clock, buddy. No phones, no phone, so you can't
get any outside help from anybody. But making the lottery

(09:36):
its own event and then picking up from fifteen on
because we saw it last night, Right, what do we have?
We had the Celtics and the Bulls were the only
two teams to actually do nothing with their picks. They
drafted where they had it. They didn't get a draft
pick conferred to them there and they and they didn't
trade it out. Otherwise you're trying to draw a diagram

(09:57):
to see how it all intersects, and it might actually
we had the secret code to solving you know, the
quest to find the Fountain of Youth, maybe better than
John Krasinski did in that movie with Natalie Portman that
came out. Oh and Hucks was in there too, so
you got that going on. But yeah, I mean that
might be it, like it's a Dakota ring. Drink more ovaltine.
But other than that, you know, tonight is truly the

(10:20):
college experience. There's Proctor, there's some names we know, but
in terms of a grand celebration of your sport, it pales.
Like even yesterday, the number of people we talked about
it that had no idea the draft was going on
really was kind of eye opening. Yeah, wait, what huh?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean sometimes the draft is a two player Now
NBA drafts are like one, two and maybe three player draft.
You're if you're lucky, it's a two player draft, right,
And usually the last couple of years it's been a
one player draft. The player last year was Brawdy, this
year it's Cooper Flagg. Well that's just how it goes.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
But I mean this year we got the gift of
Colin Coward. Yeah, the A Bailey, We got got multiple
guys caught on camera looking like they'd rather be beamed
anywhere else in the known universe then go play where
they were drafted. So I mean we did get some
gifts along the way, and then look, well we'll dive
deeper into teams as they come into focus, because let's

(11:16):
face it, there's a number of these squads that aren't done.
Do you think san Antonio's squad is going to look
like it does? Now? Are they going to a fight for
who actually gets to be the point guard? We got
three guys go out there, make it fast, you know
that kind of thing. So it'll be interesting to watch
the next dominoes to fall. But in the event itself, yeah,
it fell short. And certainly Night two is highly unnecessary

(11:41):
except for the business of sport, which you know I
celebrate like no other. Sure, except for that Revel guy.
But I don't have his forty seven billion dollars or
whatever he's got, so I sell it here as where
as we watch pick to pick and just say, look,
I got a Northwestern guy drafted, so tonight I won.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, No, you have to did.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
You absolutely did, because like Syracuse hasn't had a guy
drafted in five years, but you had a guy.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Dressed since they paid mellow.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Right, Oh man? I mean look, and and you know
I would like to do it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'd like to see this. I'd like to see the
NBA say, listen, we we moved the two rounds. It
worked for Broddy, it didn't work this year. We'll get
back to round two when Bryce gets drafted. Okay, when
it's time for Bryce James to get to the NBA
and Bron's gonna play with him, then we'll go back
to a second round.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, I mean I would appreciate the honesty of it all. Hey,
by the way, because we have to complete the line
and the joke and often referenced for a Northwestern Wildcat.
Who's the last guy to get drafted? That was a
Northwestern Wildcat?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Say it.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Before that? Before that, we go for a guy that
ended up playing at Kansas and had himself a career.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Rex Walters. Wow, Rex Walters, Oh my goodness, that's that's
taking that back.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Well, I'm claiming him like Ken Griffy Jr. White Sox
Hall of Famer, Tom Seaver White Sox Hall of Famer.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Uh, but yes, we are getting near the end of
the second round of the NBA draft for Libry. Well,
the Knicks got Kobe and then they traded him, So
I mean, you know it happens, but I mean, really,
this is this is really somes some kind of second
round of the draft. Yet uh no, not yet, not yet,

(13:35):
that's not happening.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, they're saving that for day three.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
You might get see what's changed since yesterday. Yeah, he's
saying yet, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
What, His resolve is gone because now we're starting to
interview all sorts of guys.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Because I'm trying to fit well number one. Yes, as
the more they expanded eventure, they might get to him.
But the other thing is that now I'm trying to
figure out what's a way for me to get Frostburg
to stop saying doc and maybe if I agree with
him that maybe it's coming, he'll stop. This is like
my own sanity thing now that I do instead of
saying what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
That's like okay, yes it's gonna happen. You can never stop,
never stopping.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Uh So, hey, happy round two of the NBA Draft
for everybody who is celebrating. Still about four picks left
to go before this is Mercify, before it's over, Before
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(14:50):
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Speaker 3 (16:44):
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Speaker 1 (16:55):
Gotta say this right on a night that the the
NBA Draft, you know, Night two is really just you know,
it's just kind of there.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Tonight in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark is out right big headline.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Today She's out again Groyd injury, which you're kind of hoping, okay,
is this is she been overdoing it? Whatever it is,
you know as far as her injuries, because she never
was heard at Iowa. She was healthy all year last
year and now all of a sudden, here's two injuries
that has kept her out a while. And is it
part of the weight program whatever it is. You're creeping
your fingers crossed, and so is a w because you
know she's the show. So she doesn't play tonight and

(17:29):
the Fever lose at home to the Sparks. Now it's
a big night for Kelsey Plumb. Who is who is
someone who most.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Basketball fans know who Kelsey Plumb is.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
They know some of her virtual highlights, some of her
viral highlights, throwing that T shirt into the crowd, you know,
being the all time leading scorer in D one until
Katelyn Clark broke the record.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
After autograph collectors for being creeps outside hotels. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
See, And that's the thing, is there.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Photo ops that I mean, yeah, active woman. So she
has her following based on that, which lends to that
greep factor thing.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
But that's that's the thing, is that seeing what she's done.
I know, we're always looking for who's next in the
w right, Oh, page Becker's, Page Beckers is great. Paige
Beckers is the next great playperer. I don't know that
this isn't gonna be the breakout year popularity wise of
Kelsey Plump because she's incredibly outspoken, right you see, you
see this stuff when when Page Beckers was talking smacked her,

(18:26):
she went viral for that. You know, obviously you're talking
about the autograph seekers, the big video of her yelling
about the referees and getting fouled and scratches on my
arms like Kelsey Plum is a lot of fun. And
then yes, obviously the serious stuff about well you know
what happens outside the hotels.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
But then tonight like a big viral highlight.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, Kitlyn Clark not playing and she's ard because
you know Katelyn Clark, this is this is what she does.
Like she's not playing and she wanted to step up
and argue a call with the official, and she steps
on the court and she starts yelling, and Kelsey Plump
comes over and starts screaming, Hey, hey, give her a
tea to sit out. You're standing on the court. You're
standing on the court. Kelsey Plum is a lot of
fun man. And I know we always look at the

(19:05):
rookies and say who's next, But this is the first
couple of years where hey, everybody's really seeing the WNBA
for the first time. I don't know, Kelsey Plum might
not be the big breakout star popularity watching the w
this year.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well, you get a couple of huge wins, right, She's
she's good on the microphone. She's chirpy on the court,
as we've seen. You talk about the incident with Clark,
but just in general, we talked a lot about her
post game presser a couple of weeks ago where when
she went off about fouls not being called against her.
I mean it was extended conversation of the stuff we

(19:40):
have with Caitlin Clark. Im look at Sophie Gunningham, Right,
she'd been in the league six years and then she
goes to a whole other stratugy.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
She commits one foul and all of a sudden, hey,
here goes another million followers on social media.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
That's all that just did, right. Her TikTok views go
through the roof. People want to see her fit every
time she's coming the stadium. Everything she posts has turns
to a whole other level of gold. So yeah, I
mean there's there's a spread the wealth. The other is
you know, I think as a league, as much as
we've bemoaned and been a leaders of watching this the

(20:15):
last couple of years of missteps and where they go,
I think they're recognizing, you know, there is room for
other people to get some shine, and media members are
being smart enough to capture it as well. I mean,
there's plenty of personalities out here. Angel Reese has her
knee bounds and whatever else that that roll through. Still
waiting for Cameron Brink to become a star in her

(20:38):
own right right in her second year back off missing
most of last year with the injury. But yeah, well
for Kelsey Plumb in little extra shine and it's not
because of past relationships or things of that nature. So
it's it's good for the w to have more and
more people get the shine. Whether that translates to ratings,

(20:59):
I don't know. But just like Adam Silver does with
the NBA, I mean, start going into how many people
are watching TikTok videos, YouTube videos or whatever else and
get in there and sell, sell, sell.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
She know, Sophie Cunningham No, well listen, hey, so Sophie
Cunningham gets it and Kelsey Plum gets it right, This
is what players just just to finish with this before
we get to Clayton Kershaw. Is that is that instead
of players complaining and being jealous about Caitlin Clark and
getting all of the attention because hey, we've been here

(21:30):
and we built this league. Instead of complaining about how
why is she getting all of this and I'm not,
Kelsey Plum and Sophie Cunningham and other players are doing
what they should be. This is Hey, this is unprecedented
attention on us. I am gonna step up and make
people follow me. This is our big chance to get
popular and for people to understand that hey, whatever happened

(21:51):
before now happened.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I have a chance now. Kelsey Plumb is thirty years old,
so I'm like she's.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Been in the league a year, year and a half
and said, hey, this is your chance to really cut
through and be a star. Yes, Angel Reese does a
lot of stuff, and some of the stuff she says,
it's just really outlandish that he kind of goes in
one ear.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
And out the other. But she gets it. She had, Hey,
this is my time. I know that I get a lot.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
This is my I gotta take advantage of the attention
and become a star. Now, this is what the players
should be concentrating on, not oh the jealousy of Caitlin
Clark and committing fouls and this and that, and coaches
saying this is what they should you know, the chances
here there is a big plate and big smorgasport for
you to step up and say, hey, look at me.
I can be a star too. And it goes into
everything about you, about about who you are and how

(22:33):
you present yourself and the optic you want out there.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's all there. This is what they should be concentrating on.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, I think we always go back to the idea
of any anything else that we talk about in marketing
and business. Right, you want to go into the shoe business, Okay,
it's a multi billion dollar game. You don't need a
large sliver to make a lot of money doing it right,
whether you're a player selling a shoe line. Right Asia

(22:59):
Wilson and I've been getting some run for the last
couple of days, and now Nike's got the Caitlin Clark's
coming out. I think it's Monday or Tuesday of next week.
All of those things and going on down the line,
talk about soft drinks, talk about beer companies, whatever, you know.
You don't need to be moved massive amounts of products
because it's a huge marketplace. A little sliver gets you

(23:23):
some run. The same thing here for the players. You
don't need to try to really creep into the Caitlin
Clark's stratosphere. You just get into the peripheral and folks
that are looking to spend money and get into the space.
There's a trickle down effect that comes in. If you're
the number two, number five, number twelve, whatever that depth
chart is, and you're the right fit for a product,

(23:46):
right fit for some type of campaign, you're gonna get
a little bit of shine. And right now I think
you know as a league embracing it, and the individual players,
particularly the veterans saying screw it. It doesn't have to
be about the rookies. We're interesting people. We're I mean,
look at all the Cark insurance ads and whatever else.
There are all people that were in the league a
decade that started showing up on those beyond Caitlin Clark

(24:09):
and Jake.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Exit out about a Fresca exit Swelling Dome, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Sports Radio studio. So just a blueprint there. Maybe you
want to follow that.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Or if you have a great left arm and you
can really throw a hook, you want to follow the
blueprint of Clayton Kershaw, who after today is three strikeouts
away from absolute baseball history.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Now the payoff Pitch.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Cold Strike three, three to go Dodgers TV on McCall.
Clayton Kershaw now at two thousand, nine hundred and ninety
seven career strikeouts after the Dodgers win today in Colorado.

(24:56):
And no, by the way, just for saying before we
get to history, Clayton Kershaw's so far this season four
and oh and his era is three. So maybe not
quite the Clayton Kershaw that we were used to, as
you know, first ballot Hall of Famer, but hey, uh,
considering all the injury problems that he's had and all
the doctors plus starters that can't stay healthy. Here he

(25:17):
is at thirty seven, four and oh in an era
of three. Now it's not you know, de gram or
Schemes or some of these guys. Yeah, but this is
still this is a huge shot in the arm for
the Dodgers. So just for a second on Clayton Kershaw
and what he's what he's doing right now when the
Dodgers need him. But three strikeouts away from three thousand,

(25:37):
probably do it in the first inning against the White Sox. Oh,
I'm sorry, is that too?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Sorry? Sorry, Mike, that.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Would be one hell of an inning. There's no question
about it. It's just a matter of how how long
it takes.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Right. But a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
First thing is this, and this is all I always
look at things, and I always I kind of think about,
you know, my mortality and our mortalities. When I think
about something that we're gonna see that, you wonder when
it's gonna happen again.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Definitely take the under, so Kershaw.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Take the for all of us, uh speak the under
for Kershaw. At thirty seven, he's three strikeouts away from
three thousand. He'll get there in his next start. Okay, great,
three thousand, the magical number. Only nineteen people in the
history of Major League Baseball struck out three thousand, of
the most recent obviously, Justin Verlander did it a couple

(26:24):
of years ago, so did Max.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Schuzer after Kershaw. Chris Sale has about.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Twenty five hundred strikeouts now he's thirty six, but Chris
Sale is still humming it right, like this is not
Chris Sale. Who is I'm still just barely making it.
So Chris Sale is still pitching really well. He's still
a strikeout guy.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Chris Sale should get there in another couple of years, barring,
barring anything crazy happening, right, we should see Chris Sale
get there after that.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Again, I don't know if that's not the last three
thousand strikeout pitcher I'm gonna in my life. I want
to think I got you know, I'm thinking about years
and years and years and years. But there is nobody
that I could say, Oh, they're gonna get there, right,
like Garrett Coles at twenty two hundred, but he's thirty
five and he's missing this year, and he's he's been

(27:14):
injury prone like you really think he's gonna get another
eight hundred strikeouts after that, There's really nobody that's even close.
There's nobody that's even started their career you could say
would get to three thousand strikeouts. No, starting pitchers don't
pitch as much as they used to. They don't go
deeper into games. They're not taught to strike out, you know,
they're taught to pitch to contact a little bit more
to save their arm and save the wear and tear.

(27:34):
So I mean, really, you you get outside of Chris Sale,
which probably sometime in twenty twenty seven, maybe late twenty
twenty seven, that's it. I mean, we may not see
that again. We may not see a lot of things
in Major League baseball. I mean, the next three thousand hits,
the next the next three hundred win pitcher, Like these
are all things that we may not see in our lifetimes.

(27:57):
And and and it's really crazy because growing up, like
we saw this every few years, not all the time,
but we saw guys, Hey, three thousand hits every four
or five years, a guy would get there, right, three
hundred wins, a guy would get there. Now it's like
we really may not see those things happen again in
our lifetimes. We could be fifty years away from potentially

(28:18):
saying and again, we may not see it again, because
is baseball ever gonna get back to Hey, starting pitch
is gonna go longer? Right, are we gonna get back?
Or starting pitcher is gonna pitch like we're gonna pitch
seven eight innings? Are gonna pitch two hundred and fifty innings? Ye,
that's not happening, right, pictures get to one hundred and
seventy five innings, It's.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Okay, one hundred seventy five innings. We've gotta watch out
for that. We got to go to a six man rotation.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
All of these things like these are days in sports
that are gone and not coming back. So like when
Kershaw get in a three thousand, I'm me, damn sure,
I'm in front of the television to see that because
I want to think Chris Sale's gonna get there, But
I mean, if he doesn't, this could be the last
time I get to see that happen. I mean really,
And I love seeing history, right, It's one of the
reasons why I do what I do. I love sports history.
I love seeing this and there's and and especially baseball,

(28:59):
which is built on history more than any other sport.
And that really might be and this really might be
it for things that you and I grew up on,
that we saw so regularly, that was so celebrated, this
might be it.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, I mean, let's let's have a little more fun.
Going down the list of active players on the strikeout list.
You got Da Coole, next guy after him, Charlie Morton, Yeah,
not getting there.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Charlie Morton's fifty seven years old.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Two thousand, Yeah, where it says forty one, but I
question it. You Darvish is just over two thousand. He's
thirty eight. Then you got Gossman, Nola, Sonny Gray. These
guys are all twelve hundred or more later. I mean,
Nola's only thirty two, but is he pitching another eight
years to get there? No, Patrick Korman, Jose Kntana, your

(29:45):
guy de Gram, I mean those are all the guys. Next,
I mean Zach Wheeler. He's thirty five, so that's not happening.
You go to the Wins, as you brought up, and
because I wanted to bring Kershaw back in here. As
dominating as he's been, he's at two fifteen right, he's
at two fifteen. The only guy that has the shot,
and you know, physically is he gonna get there? Is

(30:06):
Justin Verlanders thirty eight away, but is he gonna hold
up physically? That's another three years?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah No, that's hell no, Justin Verlander is not getting there.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
So like not get he's at two sixty two, he's
he's the next uh. And then you go for me,
he was at to eighty.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I would say maybe he's got an outside chance, like
maybe an outside at two eighty, but that that's that's
not happen.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
And then we get down to Schures Are at two sixteen,
Kershaw at two fifteen. Uh, and it drifts from there.
So all those metrics that we grew up, you know,
and milestones, and I think this is the you know,
the larger point. Not only do we get robbed as
baseball fans, is you know, we don't get to see that,
And maybe we have to appreciate what we had as
kids when we'd have three guys reach the three thousand

(30:52):
hit mark or strikeout mark, and we know in a
season and a half, uh, and then all retire at
the same time so they can go in as one
of the greatest classes of all time. But now we're like,
all right, we got to change the metrics. Does it
become twenty five hundred hits? Does it become you know,
two hundred wins. We've been talking about the two hundred
win threshold in Major League Baseball, you and I for

(31:14):
going on a long time, and I think that gets
highlighted here once again. The strikeouts as well. You can
have guys with crazy ass strikeout per nine rates. I mean,
we're watching Mizerowski with the Brewers. Is that going to be.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Multiplied out long enough to get them to three thousand? Damn?
I hope it.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
It does. Right that we're sitting in rocking chairs ahead
of coming in to do the show and being able
to do that.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
But in the interim, it's like, all right, let's enjoy
it for what it is.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
And guys like Kershaw, the old workhorses who get pissed
off if the start times a minute different, that they're
still there for us.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I mean, of those someone getting the three thousand hits
maybe is the one on the outside, because could in
theory Jose.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Two V get there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Could Freddie Freeman maybe as long as he's hitting it
at forty years old, like he isn't thirty five yet.
But those are all outside chances like this, but this
with three thousand strikeouts, three hundred, like the pitching milestones,
just we're just never gonna see again.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Different world, man, we live in a different world.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Exit.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
How about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon Time, how to
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Speaker 5 (32:37):
I knew it was too good to be true.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
I was like Charlie Brown, and then Lucy pulled the
football away brilliantly.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well done, Thank you, I could run.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I got three more for you tonight, Ilo, don't.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Worry about I can't wait.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Oh good grief, as Charlie would say, well in reference
to pulling the football way before a kick. We start
in the NFL, and today the NFL suspended former Baltimore
Ravens placekicker Justin Tucker for ten weeks for violations of
the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy. Tucker, presently a free agent,
was accused of sexual misconduct by sixteen massage therapists in

(33:18):
the Baltimore area, and after the suspension was announced, Tucker's
agent released a statement reading, in parts and I quote,
we are disappointed with the NFL's decision. In order to
put this difficult episode behind him and get back on
the field as soon as possible, we have advised Justin

(33:40):
to accept this resolution and close this matter. The people
who know Justin best know his character and understand that
he is deeply dedicated to his most important lifetime roles
as a father, husband, and friend. Unquote excuse me for
a second, guys, sorry, I find that found that a

(34:05):
little difficult to.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So you know, I got to know. I got it
from you.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Anyway.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
In Major League Baseball, on Thursday night, Jason's New York
Mets shut out the Atlanta braves Ford and Nothing to
take over first place in the National League East by
half a game over the Phillies.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
That was what you say.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I know, we haven't been playing well. Can you say
that again?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
First place?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
First place? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
Because the Phillies lost at Houston earlier, so the Mets
are now in first place. That means they have the
best record in the National League East, first place. So
that was the good news. The bad news Mets starter
Griffin Canning had to leave the contest due to a
non contact left achilles injury.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
It looks like he blew his achilles another pitching it.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Oh, we we're just sensitive to it.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
But he is going to have imaging, however, sensitive to
it obviously because of what happened with Tyre's Halliburton in
the NBA finals. And finally, speaking of the NBA, Round
two of the NBA Draft concluded moments ago, and for
the record, the final pick of the draft, aka the
NBA equivalent of the NFL's mister Irrelevant, Tennessee Volunteers guard

(35:09):
Jamia Mayshak picked by the Memphis Grizzlies. So from Tennessee,
he goes from Knoxville to Memphis, so he stays in
the state.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Back to you guys, thank you, Ilo, thank you, kersh
appreciate it. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, and Clinton kersher A
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Well coming up next,
now that the night two of the NBA Draft is
in the books, we're looking ahead at what we could
see in free agency, and I got a big Bowl prediction.
I'm gonna scare you, Mike Carmon, because there is something

(35:42):
I said was gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Now I no longer think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Oh okay, thing it's good now, no longer is it
gonna happen. That's next right here, Jason to Mike Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well, gee, let me guess what today's play of the
day is going to be. I have a sneaking suspicion
it's going to be a strike three.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Now the payoff pitch.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Called strike three.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Three to go Joe Davis Dodgers TV on the call.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, Clayton Kershaw, now three Davis. That's not Joe Davis
three strikeouts away from three thousand for his career.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
We talked about that a few minutes ago. We'll have
more baseball on the way. But as we're looking at
the end of the NBA Draft Round two, Uh, I'll
tell you what, Mike, there's one thing that I said
was gonna happen, and I was.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Sure it was gonna happen. I'm convinced it was gonna happen.
Now I think it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I said, Ikay, that's a lot at circular way to
get there.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
It is. It is like something I said that.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm like, no, absolutely, but you know, I look, it's
like that, you know, the Colin Coward promo with with
new information, you know, you're your opinion evolves, right, Different
things happen.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
You can't ignore new information. I said.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
When the season ended, I said, Okay, Knicks are getting
a new head coach. Karl Anthony Towns is gone. He's
absolutely gone, and the Knicks are going to try to
find a way with a new mix. New head coach
knew everything. After the last week or so, I no
longer think that's gonna happen. I think the Knicks are
not going to do anything big in the offseason except
maybe try to bring in some depth to take some

(38:00):
of the burden off of Jalen Brunson or a couple
of guys so they can have a little bit of
a bench, because look, clearly that was one of uh
Tibbs's faults.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Was oh man, uh we did you know?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
We didn't have a bench. We had to play the
same five guys. But looking at the Eastern Conference, right
you have the Celtics without Jason Tatum, who knows, and
they're getting rid of Porzingis, They're rid of Drew Holliday.
They are gearing up for another year from now. Okay,
so scratch the Celtics. Right here are the Pacers NBA finalists,
a game away from winning it all. No Tyres Halliburton
likely for the entire next year. Okay, cross them off.

(38:34):
The Knicks are gonna say, why are we going crazy?
Maybe with a new head coach with a little bit
different philosophy, a little bit more of an attention to
detail on defense, that can maybe hide Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Jalen brought it a.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Little bit more.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
You can't hide them both when they're on the court together.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Man, Maybe just put them right next to each other.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Okay, Now, I know Wemby's learned some of that stuff
from Doctor Strange where you can be in two places
at the same time and all. But I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But I no longer think that Knicks are gonna do
anything big and they're gonna say, Okay, how do we
re how do we combat this that we still think
except well, if Doc brings again, if Doc brings Giannis,
then all right, then if Doc brings Jannis. But but
the but the Bucks are saying they're hoping that that

(39:18):
the Doc staying would hope Joannis.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Would say, still wondering what what that meant.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
But I I really I don't. I don't see the
Knicks doing anything.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Look that they'll go get depth, and they'll go out
and they'll make moves in free agency because they need you.
They need to need another guy that can score another
option somewhere. They will do that, But the big moves
not gonna happen because they're the Eastern Conference favorites coming
out of this season. Right, Yes, the Cavaliers had a
great year, but boy they got they got knocked out
of the playoffs really.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Easy in the second round.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
The Knicks go into this saying, and I can see it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't one hundred percent agree with it, but I
get the philosophy of, Hey, we don't need to go
crazy doing stuff because two of our biggest competitors are
without their best players for likely most if not all,
of next year, and the Celtics already seem like they're
they're rebuilding on the fly, and who knows what the
Pacers are gonna be.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Was this just a moment in time for them?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So yeah, maybe we don't need to do that. Maybe
maybe we need to just try to figure us and
wait till the trade deadline. If we need something to
trade deadline, we can do something of the deadline. But
now I think the Nix will Moore stand pat and
it's gonna be their next head coach comes in and
this is going to be a new way of doing things,
and the new way of doing things will be what the.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Knicks hope does it in the season.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, I mean, you don't want to act out of desperation,
and certainly the marketplace. When you see what Durant's trade
value was, what are you getting? I mean, I obviously
there's an age difference, but Carl Anthony Towns as a
much different level of deficiency at one part of his game.
And even if we do the chronological thing of hey,

(40:49):
he's that much younger, so dot dot at least Kevin
Durant play some defense. So you know, if if all
you're gonna get is a would be could be kind
of guy and a bunch of second round picks, why
go into the marketplace, look at your Eastern Conference and
reevaluate as the the slew of things begin across the

(41:11):
league telling you that I thought there would do something big.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Now they're not. But speaking up big.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
It's not every day somebody turns down a MAX extension
in the NBA, But that happened. We'll get to that
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