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June 28, 2025 • 42 mins

Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open hour 3 with a discussion on the Utah Jazz selecting Ace Bailey in the top 5 of the NBA draft despite the 18-year-old not wanting to be drafted there. Was it ultimately the right call by Danny Ainge? Then, they get into the new Lakers ownership structure with Jeanie Buss still set to remain in charge for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome in our three of the program, Mike Harmon alongside
Arnie Spanier. No Jason Smith tonight as we broadcast live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. You want to check
in out how he's doing well The Mets lost at
How about a fresca if you want to seek him
out on the highways and byways of life. Instead, you've
got our guy live from Vermont, where I've still seen

(00:53):
no syrup in my mailbox. It's our Arnie Spanier.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hopefully I'll see you in the fall when you go
out and see your daughter play soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I mean I that's fall of twenty six. We
got a minute. Oh you gotta move, So you're already
advancing me a full year.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I thought it was now no.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
No, she still has a senior year to finish out.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Look at you, Look at you now. Lots of big
stuff though.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, come on, getting to go out to Virginia in
a week's time for.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
School too, What are you? How are you gonna pay
for that?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm gonna work off four hours a night, every night.
They'll let me.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
You're gonna have to do weekends too, Jeez.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Can't say that. I already don't.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'd love to work more hours more arguing more me
is always a good thing. As I say here on
the airwaves, maybe some would disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
You're gonna do shows, You're gonna do updates, You're gonna produce,
you're gonna be the technical director, You're gonna do it all.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm gonna go out on a lemons say that you've
gone a bridge too far. But I do like the
cut of your jib. I'm not afraid of a day's
hard work. Might mean I start trading more baseball cards.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh yeah, that's your thing too, that's your I.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Got an ideal, you know. It's one of those things
I've been doing since I was a kid, and have
a little bit of acumen and knowledge to it all,
so it's it's fun.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
How come you don't have any like the real expensive
cards that people get like a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
For because one, I work in radio, so I don't
have that giant bank roll.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
No, but how come you don't open up?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Look at this one. This one's Michael Jordan's rookie card.
I who would have thought I'd get that way.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I did have a Jordan rookie card at one point,
but it was a grade that was a lower grade.
So no, no, no, there's a lot of them. Oh,
that's it's one of the things. Right. There was an
autographed high grade rookie card from eighty six eighty seven
that sold for roughly two hundred or two point five
million dollars buyers premium twenty five percent buyer. Wow, that

(02:46):
seemed a bit severe, but that's part of a I
don't know how much of that is a promotion versus
a real price. That have been a couple of those
that have gone for overshoot millions. Not a card that
he signs with any frequency, And it appears to be
also a vintage signature, which is also the key, right
because if you get him to sign it in the

(03:07):
in the wild say it an F one or whatever. Well,
I mean he does.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Do you need like the perfect signature too.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, but the signature changes over time is the point
of trying to make so the signature being dated back
when he's a rookie or second year player, his signature
is much different. You look at Lebron James, you look
at a number of players where over time you see
what once upon a time was virtually every letter of

(03:35):
their name becomes initial, becomes us a you know, non
discernible scribble. Right, We've been talking a lot about Cooper
Flag his signature. It's got a little bit of style
to it, but also looks childlike in some ways.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Really in a way like just scribbling or what No, I.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Mean you get the CE and like it's got a
little flair with the way this C in the F intersect,
but it's it's not clean.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's style.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
But well, no, eventually it'll it'll be just to see
in and F without any extra scribbles. But I mean,
think about signing your name. If you're Jannison, Tanna Coopo.
By the time you're year ten in the league, you're
signing that fold name G.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
G.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Kind of an a maybe you get a little bit
of the accents and.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Is that what is that? The next thing?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Though?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Anything Cooper Flag has got to be worth millions right
every te.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, no, I mean it certainly has its uh its market.
And he's had a couple of products that have been
out there for a while. Uh it's a strange convergence.
And this is going a little bit inside baseball and
that Panini is going to lose the license to Fanatics.
So you've got some Cooper Flag cards that will be

(04:49):
part of the last run of Panini stuff as Tops
gets the licensing, which.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Is not going to be more valuable.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So well and that and that's where they'll decide, right
because you've got the historic brands and things like Pannini
Prism versus Tops Chrome versus you know, some of the
other parallel and upscale lines to decide, you know, with
your dollars, which you like most. Now he's had a
couple of Tops products that were pretty cool. The Tops

(05:18):
all American, so many different He's not as simple as
it was when we were younger, where you had Tops
doners fleeting upper deck.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Cooper Flagg should go Billy Ripket and have like an obscene,
you know message on now.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
They did a tribute to that last year in Tops
Baseball with the Jackson Holiday. So there are Jackson hot.
Well it doesn't actually have the blank face car. I
actually have one of those in my collection.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
We made a lot of money in those back in
the day. But now I have one for the personal collection.
But another guy who has been hot in the collectible's
market leading up to the draft, Ace Bailey. Yes, we're talking,
and you took your shots at Rutgers and and Jason
did the same underachieving. And I say, if I'm the coach,
I got two guys to the top five, I win,

(06:08):
come play from my school, and now you get to
fight again and hopefully better, because again, how did.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
You get get fired? Having two guys at the top five.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Then Shire should get fired too.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, they did win.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
The whole team got drafted. Yeah, so but going through
with as badly. Now we get into a lot of
the psychology of the draft process. Advisors, family friends, hangers
on agents, whether you're certified by the league you're not,
and the people that are hanging around you helping in

(06:43):
your decision making process, whether to talk to teams whether
or not to. We talked to Rick Buker the other night.
There was some speculation that he wasn't comfortable with the
interview process. So that is part of it, and how
much of that that all comes out the wash, right?
You know, team by team we're gonna get different stories

(07:04):
and things you're going to leak out. But where we
sit right now as of this moment, he's not yet
reported to the Utah Jazz. The latest reports are that
he will show up on Saturday to try to put
some of these questions to bed. A team representative told
ESPN earlier quote, We've had good communication with Ace Bailey

(07:24):
and his reps. We feel good about everything. Ace and
his family are coming to Utah tomorrow. We saw Dwayne Wade,
who's a part owner, on Draft night. He applauded the move,
and obviously we know the front office and their history
that I think the belief was once he gets in
sees what they're all about, that it will quell any
of these fears.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Just a couple of things on that. First of all,
I thought when he was turning down interviews that that
was the biggest mistake ever in that you at least
could do the interviews if you're not going to work
out for the team. But then again, you look at
your door Sanders, and look how many teams said that
he did a bad interview and that they didn't want
to draft. And now, I know quarterback is different than

(08:07):
a position in basketball, and you know the quarterback is
the position. But you got to wonder, you know, when
it was all said and done, you know, maybe he
did the right thing by not interviewing. Maybe, like Rick
Buker said, he just didn't feel comfortable going through the
interview process and he didn't want it to turn out
like Shador Sanders, I think it was a mistake. I

(08:30):
would have interviewed. If you're not going to work out
for anybody, the least you can do is go meet them,
talk to them and say, you know, here, I'll give
you one hour. Let's have lunch and you know, you
could pick my brain. But other than that, you know,
he made so when he first got drafted by Utah,
it seemed like he was excited. Mike. He was like

(08:50):
really puffed. You can see the emotion. And I didn't
think there was any problem whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Is always the where's the truth lie?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Of all?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Right, maybe you're not happy with where you're going, but
you're also relieved that you're not still sitting on the board.
Was because we had guy a little bit later who
dropped the F bomb.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Then we had another player who got drafted, and then
in following up he was renamed Colin Coward.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
So we had a little bit of fun with that.
But his agent, Omar Cooper said, he's right, well, and
that's a whole other part of this process. Right said
that the every team watched him work out in Chicago,
he did eighteen interviews, everybody got his medical et cetera,
et cetera, so going, you know, and tried to defend saying, hey,

(09:45):
there's nothing uncommon about how He's Bailey's pre draft process
was handled. And I think it begets a larger conversation
when we go to Shador Sanders and something Ian and
I have talked about here on the airwaves. You and
I may have broached it in past, come here as well, Arnie.
Certainly something Jason and I did when it happened, and

(10:05):
then once it got dredged up again, and that's Caleb
Williams's situation in Chicago. Right of whether he wanted to
go to play with the Bears, wanted to test the
draft process. Maybe his dad had grand visions of sitting out. Now,
what's real, what's imagined? What's hyperbole? What makes for a
great story? When someone comes sniffing around writing a book,

(10:27):
I don't know, like you know, somewhere in there the
true life, unless it's all on tape. And even then,
you know the guy's not tapped into a polygraph as
he's recounting the tails and details of everything.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
But do you ever think we'll ever get to the
point where we'll get rid of a draft?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Well, but that's the question I'm asking, right because I
long ago, back when I was first starting to do
columns at Yahoo and a lot of fantasy stuff. But
you know, they gave me some column inches on my
page to just write about what I wanted. So once
a week I'd have just the long rant on something.
And one of it was one of the first was

(11:05):
about the Maurice Claret Mike Williams situation where they're getting
some dubious rulings and then eventually got screwed because they said, well, no, no, no,
you hired people to work with you, and now you
can't go back to college. Well, for Mink Williams, it
didn't matter. He still got drafted by Detroit Top ten,
eventually became a tight end before finding his way out
of the league, but he still got top ten money.

(11:26):
Maurice Clarett never saw that payday.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
No, he never did. I thought he was wrong, to
be honest.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, but it's and I talked to folks, and how
much is true? And again revisionist history, that there were
a couple of teams that were interested while he was
recovering from his leg injury. Of while we get him
in with our strength people, he's in the meeting rooms whatever,
eventually he's ready to go. And this is where you
get into college football. In the fight about whether you
should have to stay three years, particularly now that guys

(11:54):
are getting paid, we've entered a whole other space. But
also just the idea of the right in a free
market economy of I can go here, I can go there.
That that you should have to wait for free agency
regardless of league. Right, go baseball, and how many years
that a team has your rights the NBA before you're

(12:15):
restricted free agent, before you get towards unrestricted free agency,
the NFL and franchise tags and other things that nature
from the Fox Sports studios.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
In years to the lower clubs, the lower ranked teams,
the smaller markets. I mean, they would be horrible every year.
Why if we did something like that.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, but but here's the thing. You're still going to
be even if you got rid of the draft, right,
You're still going to be subject to team salary, cap
rules or second apron whatever else. Right. And if I'm
a guy that I know can play, am I going
to be okay? And is the Union gonna be okay?
Because the Union is also going to put some pressure here?

(12:58):
But am I gonna be okay? Be in the seventh
guy on a team making half the money I would
make another team? So the money is gonna gonna sort
that out. So saying, hey, this guy would only want
to go here, here or here, No, he wouldn't. Like
if you're Cooper Flag and you've got carte blanche, are

(13:19):
you necessarily going to place? Hey, we can only give
you this and again rookie salary. But he is in
a different bucket. I get it. For the purposes of
this conversation, let's put it all together of what you
can do and as a team, what's prudent, what's not?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, if Cooper Flag had a choice, he would have
been a Boston Celtic. There was no doubt about it.
He's from he's from Maine. That was his team Mad
a matter of fact, I actually met with the Boston Celtics,
so I'm wonder to what what that was all about.
So if he can go anywhere, that's where he would go.
But if you're you know, getting rid of the draft,
my goodness, how many people want to go play for

(13:57):
the Cleveland Browns. You know how many people want to
go play for these garbage teams. But then again, there's
only so many spots for quarterbacks. Eventually you have to
trickle on down and find the team, but you just
won't be the upper tier quarterback, and that would kill
the small market teams or or teams that nobody wants
to go to.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, eventually you're gonna have I mean, you got thirty
two starting jobs right right, So you might be thirty
two out of thirty two and maybe you catch lightning
in a bottle.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't want to have to maybe catch lightning on
the bottle.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean, that's the way the draft works.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Anyway, right, Kevin, you know, give me quarterback one or
at least if I'm bad, I get to pick the
best quarterback who I think is the best quarterback. I
don't get the choice if I'm.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, I'm just playing Devil's advocate to it all that.
I don't think it's the sudden rush that everybody is
going to only go to three or four teams and
every other team is gonna be bereft of talents. Like No,
guys still want to get play The guys still want
playing time and still want to get paid. Yeah, and
being is sitting on the bench for the Lakers is
all fining good when you keep the gear. But you're

(14:58):
gonna want to go play some where, you know, because
you need to earn the next contract. He sitting on
your ass ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
No, you're one hundred percent right. If you're if you
want to earn the big money and you know you
have more money coming to you, you're eventually gonna gohead
and go somewhere else. You're gonna go ahead where you
could play and and and make the money. And what's
his face on the Lakers? The name is escaping me.
That just turned down the four years Austin Reeves. Uh
just said no to four year ninety six million because

(15:26):
I guess he's gonna make two hundred million dollars. I
always thought he was underpaid when he signed that contract
with the Lakers. Now he's really gonna get money, and
he's he's a good player. But does he deserve that
type of money?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, but you decide where you're at in the continuum. Right,
You're a guy that got a shot and then they
offered you four years fifty four. At that point you're saying, wait,
I get fifty four guaranteed, I'm still only gonna be
how old? Yeah, now he gets two hundred million, I
keep growing. I mean, you get to fifty if the
Lakers pay him the max, which would just be insane.

(15:57):
But you know, going to another team, it's still near
towards two hundred million dollars. Again, I don't think he
gets to top dollar, but he'll top eighty. Well, how
he's going thirty four guys to score twenty plus points
and that's a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
So how many more years you think as Lebron has
with the Lakers. Now that the Lakers are gonna have
new ownership.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Ah, that's a good question. He's got one year that
he'll opt into at his fifty two million dollars. But
do they sign a one in one or does he
play one year and opt out? And what is it?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
What is it gonna be that owner of that Vegas
team eventually?

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Well, and there's the other thing that keeps circling right,
It's like Los Angeles was used for all these years
in the NFL as the hey, you know what, we're
gonna leave. We're gonna go to La Oh wait, now
they have two teams. Damn it. We can't use that
as a threat anymore. And our local municipality for money.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, now, all of a sudden, I don't see the
Lakers bending over backwards for Brownie James like the old
ownership did. I could be wrong, maybe they will.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
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Speaker 3 (19:58):
Fire Fire on the Mantain once again, the dulcet tones
of Arnie Spaniard. You're listening tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
That's why I was singing, I'll go to a cover
band for the Grateful Dead tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Really.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah. One of my neighbors hired a band the play
in his backyard, okay, and I got invited, so he
got any sound of these people. I told Alex to
pull them up. I dobt he did, so what what's
their name again? Yeah? You see, that's that's the problem,
wasn't their dave. I always told him, like four hours ago.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
To well, but until seven pm Pacific time ten o'clock
Eastern time, he really doesn't have to listen to anything.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I know, I know, I know that's that's so.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
And I always try to remind these guys like they're
they're not beholden to walk well for the fire for
us until until, you know, an hour before showtime. That
Ian had to do double duty. So I mean he
was already in the producer's chair before we even started.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Arnie who Who. But anyway, I heard somebody calling my
name when I was at the market and it was
this girl. And I'm much younger than me, and I'm
thinking maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Brady Sydney Sweeney thing like, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
It was a girl that was much younger than me.
And you know, I get to hit on a lot.
I'm a good looking guy. I never wear my wedding ring.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
And just like you got your tank top on fresh
off the court.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yes, She's like, hey, my my husband and I are
having a party. We want you to come. I'm like, okay,
what is it? Just kind of part of us, just
the three of us there. They're gonna be food and
I'll go if this food and wow and booze. But
they're like, no, no, we have who have a bad food?
We have a band playing and we're you know, we're

(21:41):
just gonna have people in the backyard. And I go, great,
I'll bring my wife. She's actually friends with my wife,
but I don't think she knows that we're married. Usually
my wife doesn't like to tell anybody that we're married.
So uh, but that's not a good thing. I'm just
telling you. So we're gonna go drawn, We're gonna we're

(22:01):
gonna go tomorrow to this, to this concert, and we'll
see how it is.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hey, you know it would be really sad, though. I
suddenly they're in the middle of their set and all
of a sudden, you hear, you know, like low low tones,
and all of a sudden he starts singing, Beth here
you call.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Me, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, going full kiss on you.
I don't know this was a band for their backyard though.
But uh, and then there was the last minute thing
because I only saw her today or yesterday, and the
party is Saturday, so I'm kind of a last minute invite.
I really know who Yeah, I didn't know who she

(22:36):
was until I figured it out. I work out with
her at Orange Theory. So that's this.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Now, it took a whole other turn. I mean, Tyson
shaking his head, his head's about to explode. And I
don't think it's the heat from the burrito he's gonna I.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Don't think it's a concert.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, I think the I think you're getting poured into
something else here.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, it's a concert and it says the invitation's doors
open in six, begins at seven. It's kind of like
a is.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
This subtitle eyes wide shut.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Well, i'll let you know how it turns out. Man,
we'll see how it is. I'm not working themorrow, so
I'm going to are you?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Are you a big grateful Dead guy? Is for?

Speaker 4 (23:12):
As a matter of fact, I went to a Grateful
Dead show. Once I got to the entrance and there
were a bunch of people dancing in circles, and I'm like,
get me out of here. I never even walked in, man,
I just get me out of here. And I turned
her out and and I walked out. Never never got
to see them.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Seriously, people dancing at a concert. That's really that was.
That was enough. They were dancing in a circle. It
was scared artist.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I'm like, they're on something, man, these kids are on something.
I'm out of here. You know. I had a fraternity
brother of mine that I picked up at the airport
in Los Angeles. He was coming out to see the Dead.
His name was Kingsley Whipple and he was from me.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
That name cannot be yes yeah, Kingsley whipp Come on,
this guy would have gone on to great prominence in
this world with a name I threak up the subject
of ridicule.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Go ahead. I picked him up at the airport and
he was going to the concert, and I said, hey,
I got bad news for you. That's when Jerry Garcia
went into a coma or something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
He passed away when they were he.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Didn't die from it though, he actually he came out
of it. This was part one. Yeah, this was part
we can. I go, hey, Jerry Garcia is in Acomi.
He's probably dead. And the guy just broke down and
started to cry. I'm like, oh my god, I didn't
know what men meant so much for you. But he
actually came out of that I think the first time.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Okay, And yeah, because he was supposed to be at
Alpine Valley because it was a show we were was
that was that Los Angeles in the that's in Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Oh okay, Well he was coming out of to LA
to see him. I don't know what concert it was,
but when it first happened, So yeah, Kingsley whip Ball
shot out though.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Kings look, I completely understand the emotion of it all.
Today is eight years since the guitarist from my favorite
band passed away. Who's Dave Rosser. The Afghan Whigs shout
out Viva La Rosser, and you know I saw his picture.
A couple of guys that that I know that have
played with the band and and and supporting the band,
they put up a little tribute. It gets you guys

(25:11):
that you know and women that you artists. I mean,
we do it with sports.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
You're a big band guy.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah. But but in all of it, right, that's that's
the thing that brings us all together to this melting
pot that is sports talks. Taylor Swift we did, Yeah.
I saw her in La and then I saw and.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I, By the way, what would be a bigger power
couple Taylor Swift than Kelsey or Tom Brady and Sweeney Taylor,
Taylor Swift's the beggest thing in the.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
And Travis Kelcey's twenty five pounds slider. No European tour
this year, He's ready to go out university.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
We'll see, We'll see if you shall see.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah. Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio
YouTube channel search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. See a
bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to
subscribe so you never miss out on the very best
Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Yeah, there's my my
play for the Afghan Wigs.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But I have no I've never heard of that group before.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Never around since the early nineties. My movie Beautiful Girls,
they played the bar band, so you can go do that.
Greg Duley, the lead singer, was one of the guys
in the Beatles movie Backbeat, one of the performers. But
all of that to say, it's just that emotion that
brings us and why we care about sports, why people
want to shake their fists and yell at things that

(26:26):
you're saying on the radio or I'm saying on the radio.
It's the same thing with our bands. Right, we get
emotionally attached to all of it. Is it necessarily? Does
it make sense all the time? No? Right?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
And I watch those videos. I watch those videos all
the time of young people listening to music from the
eighties and nineties for the first time. I'm like, how
have you not heard like the Beatles or something like that.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
No, it's funny though, because my daughter with her soccer club, right,
if she gets control of the auks and now they're
into her playlist with the stuff she's been exposed to
through me, through her mom.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
It could be anything.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You have no idea, where's going to go? From show
tunes to Abba, to Willy Nelson to well, I mean
my ex wife is Swedish originally from from Sweden, but
all of that to say, right, you have no idea.
My classic rock influence go to Jethrow Tull all the
way to the Afghan Wigs, to Throw you know, Black

(27:29):
Sabbath and so on, Right, I mean, all all of that.
It's a rich tapestry. So you don't know. But there's
a lot of kids that they have no idea who any.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Of these base Oh no, they have no idea.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
So I'm not surprised. You know those videos when you
even if someone's you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Too, right, Yeah, you you know what I'm talking where
they listen to a song for the first time that
were big hits when we were younger, and they're just like, hey,
this is pretty good man, I've never heard this before.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah. Sometimes I think it's a lot of lying. Yeah,
but that's a whole other thing. Sure, as we processed through,
but we were talking about the future of the Lakers, right, Yeah,
something that you know, the NBA as a whole, and
we get into the conspiracy theories and and Cooper Flagg
joked about it after he was drafted. I don't know
anything about any conspiracy theories. Wait, you're not denying it,

(28:14):
You're just saying you have no details. No, but it's
but it's the kind of thing that you know, we
watched the dominoes fall, and you know, it's always the
question of the invisible hand, much like the economic world. Uh,
if you go back into your economics classes and and
economic history of the nations. Right, but it's for the NBA.

(28:35):
The next iteration means for the Lakers, you're not just
beholden to the family money they've had. They've had partial
owners all along, aren't I mean that that that shouldn't
be shouldn't be misconstrued because I think folks are a
little surprised to find out that Walter already had his
hand in the cookie jar.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
A little something.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, but now he becomes a controlling owner. But that
means you have access to tens of millions of dollars,
billions of dollars that you can invest. Look, it doesn't
let them circumvent any of the cap the aprons and
all the other stuff that is mind numbing for a
lot of NBA fans. That's still going to be there.
But what it does do is it allows you to say, Okay,

(29:18):
for these two years out of this five year period,
we think we have a chance to win, we will
go and pay this money, we will take the hit
in the draft, and we can invest in all the
other areas that the Bus family couldn't right.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
And they and they wouldn't. And nothing against the Bus family.
It was a family thing back then.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I know, gen he hasn't called you in a while.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, we went to high school. Obviously. He's married to
Jay Moore now, who used to work here at Fox
Sports Radio. I gotta tell you, Genie was born for this.
In high school, she was our basketball manager. I'll never forget.
I've told the story before where I was sitting outside
with my coach, one of my basketball coaches, and it
was just him and I talking and Genie walked by

(29:58):
and he goes, did your dad buy the Theanna Pacers?
And she goes, no, No, he's saving his money for
the Lakers. I shut up, Genie, who's your dad? Gonna
go and buy the Lakers. But it was all the
way back then in high school when they knew the
process of what they wanted to get, and they bought
the Lakers, and he bought it for was it for
like seven hundred or seventy eight millionaire?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I got sixty eight sixty nine million, and he got.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
The Forum, and I mean he got everything. And people
thought he was crazy for paying that type of money.
It was it was a great investment. I loved doctor Buss.
I thought he was just a fun guy. Got to
meet him on occasion. Great guy. I thought Genie was
doing a really good job. You know. One thing that

(30:41):
kind of bothered me, I know that Linda Rambis and
Kurt Rambis were like, what two and three, I'm a
pecking order there, So I felt that she kind of
gave them a little bit too much power sometimes. But
Laker fans, this is a new error for you. You
got a guy in now that, like you said, Mike,
he'll spend money and he doesn't care about paying the

(31:01):
tax or anything like that. Look what he's done for
the Dodgers, so you know he's gonna go ahead and
do it for the Lakers and it's going to be
a lot more winning and a lot more big names
coming to the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
When it's all said, yeah, I mean it's certainly you
know the rules of engagement and the rules about how
you can structure things and money you can spend different
you know, luxury tails don't figure how to do.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
It in the NBA like he like they figured it
out with showe Otani.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Trying to figure out base I'm surius. We'll be curious
to see, you know where they can people.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
I'm smarter than us. But Mike, I promise you that
we'll figure it out. I do promise you.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Well, that's just it. Nobody's cracked that code yet. But
maybe Walter in his two we just.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Cracked the baseball code, didn't we. We just cracked the
code on how to do that just this last night. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think a lot of that was all handshake agreements
about they're going to do it. But I just remember
a couple of years ago, being on air and being
one of few voices to Champion when Balmer bought the
Clippers for two billion, and I said, good for him,
this is smart money and here's why. And I was
called an idiot in every name in the look now
have they won any way? But I mean, how many
times do franchises open up in premier market places? Not

(32:08):
very often Boston, But all of a sudden, you've got
a little bit of a shift here, right of hey,
I can cash out. Market's good, changing face of the game, internationalization,
different rules at play in terms of how you operate.
And again for some of the old family business, right

(32:29):
you can say, wait, we can cash out.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
At what Mark Cuban cashed out and said, I'll take
the money.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
He still has a percentage of ownership or whatever it is,
but he doesn't have control.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Has nothing to say, zero to say.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Never never, one of the biggest wallflowers we've ever met.
I actually got tickets to a game once from him.
But we'll talk about that a little bit later on
as we continue here. But first we got to go
over to Steve Desager because it's been a wild night
in Major League Baseball. The NHL draft come on. The
Blackhawks drafted a quarter.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Drafted start tonight in downtown LA, and the Islanders took
defenseman Matthew Schaeffer number one overall. The rest of the
rounds are tomorrow Today. The NHL and its players union
agreed to an extension of the CBA through twenty thirty.
There's still a fifty to fifty split of hockey related
revenue at the NHL salary cap determined by that split.
Florida Panthers playoff MVP Sam Bennett signed an eight year

(33:23):
extension two late games at Major League Baseball, The Nationals
now lead in Anaheim thirteen to nine over the Angels
top of the ninth inning. Halo's manager Ron Washington, age
seventy three, will remain on medical leave for the rest
of the season. Miami is going for its fifth straight win.
The Marlins lead at Arizona nine to five in the
bottom of the ninth. The Dodgers won their fifth straight,

(33:44):
five to four at Kansas City Shoeo Tani with a
leadoff homer his twenty ninth. Houston was up seven to
nothing in the fourth and beat the Cubs seven to four.
Houston's won five.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
In a row.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Jeremy Paine, you did have to leave with Ribsornis after
being hit by a pitch Seattle in twelve innings at
Texas seven to six. San Francisco a three to one
winner at the White Sox, who are now twenty six
and fifty six this season, but Colorado is eighteen and
sixty four After losing at Milwaukee ten to six, losing
pitcher for the Rockies Kyle Freeland one and nine, Cincinnati

(34:17):
got three homers from Spencer Steer and beat the Padres
eight to one. Winning pitcher ex Padre, Nick Martinez, had
a no hitter until no out's in the ninth. He
wound up throwing one hundred and twelve pitches. So Sunny
Gray eight and two for the Cardinals got a five
nothing win at Cleveland. He threw a complete game, one
hitter with eleven strikeouts and no walks, and in a
complete game, Gray threw only eighty nine pitches. Rain delay

(34:41):
at the start at Detroit, Minnesota beat the Tigers four
to one. Long rain delay at the start at Atlanta.
It is finally over Phillies thirteen nothing over the Braves.
Kyle Schwarber is twenty fifth homer of the season and
leadoff man Trey Turner with two long balls. He went
four for six with four runs scored. Baltimore was down
six nothing early but still won twenty two to eight

(35:02):
over Tampa Bay. Shut out victories for both Toronto and
the Yankees. Pittsburgh ripped the Mets nine to one. Mets
pitcher Griffin Canning had surgery for his torn achilles. All
Star Game voting resumes on Monday. Five WNBA games tonight
late night wins for Seattle, Golden State, and Phoenix twelve
and four beat New York one oh six ninety one.

(35:24):
Indiana without Caitlin Clark out again with the groin injury.
Indiana still won at Dallas ninety four eighty six, and
that game was moved to the Dallas Mavericks Arena because
of Clark fever. Led by twenty after the first quarter,
Minnesota in overtime one in Atlanta ninety six ninety two.
The Minnesota Links are thirteen and two. The Utah Jazz
say first rounder Ace Bailey will report on Saturday. Masaiu

(35:47):
Cheerry is out as president of the Raptors after thirteen
years there. Toronto gave general manager Bobby Webster an extension.
Seventy six er center Andre Drummond reportedly picked up his
player option for next season, and Minnesota's NOAs Read will
reportedly re sign four years plus a player option. Back
to you, that's the voice the legend Steve de Sager. Steve,

(36:07):
before we you put the headset down? What did you
think of Arnie singing?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Oh my Love? What do you think of the execution
on Arnie singing?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
As is kind of a reference by Alex. This is
like when Rob Parker sings on the air and I
said to him on the air, nothing behind his back?
Why is it that people who want to sing the
most can sing the least? This is yet another example
of that.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
I need auto tune. Okay, maybe that's what I need.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
We all need something too for our ears.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I mean, thanks Steve, Arnie Spanner in for Jason Smith
out Mike car But one of the stories Steve gave
us in his update talking about the Wings and the
Fever playing in front of a huge crowd. Ticket prices
plummeted because of a groin injury. We'll talk about all
of these swirling stories as related to Caitlin Clark and

(36:55):
the WNBA as we continue here. It's Fox Sports Radio
Live from our LA studio. That's next.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Welcome back in Fox sports or radio Jason Smith Show
with Me, Mike Harmon, No Jason Tonight. You want to
take a guess where he is? Arn'tie Spanier Detroit. Ooh,
that's a good guess. No, he's actually at the Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Oh, what's that the Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
He's performing in a grease sing along.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
He's performing.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Well, he's in the crowd singing along. Oh, okay, like
you singing along.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm like, he's probably know about Jason. I guess well.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I mean, look, we are a theatrical show. He's another
example of he who sings loudly on the show.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
A grease sing along. The Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
They do a lot of movies with the either the
orchestra or in this case, you've got some former cast
members and folks come out and sing along and they
play the movie on the big screen. It's pretty cool experience. Yeah,
so they do that with a little bit Jurassic Park,
some of the Harry Potter they're gonna I.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Don't know if I used to stay off for that,
but I could, you know, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I don't know. Day off with the family. If your
son had said, hey, dad, this would be nice. Let's
have a catch and then go over and watch.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
No, I will take the day off for us to
go to a hockey game, or to a football game,
or a basketball game, or.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
It's all some mantics. It's still something your kid was interested.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
We're not going to the grease single long, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Wow, now you're just missing, you know, the bonding that
he has with his wife and child. It allowed you
to come in here and if that's your wise to
America and to the globe today, that is true.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I should say thank you for that. That is undred percent.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Because it's good to have you and always h a pleasure.
My dad this morning said what do you got going on?
I go, well, you know, Jason's off, so you know,
hosting and hanging out in the studio goes who you got?
And I said, Arnie, go yeah, listen to him.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Is that is that a bad thing the way you say.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
No, no, no, no. You gotta understand. My dad like
it's gonna become the dry says to you, because yeah,
you'll have fun because he's heard us before and and
he knows. Even going back to what I was doing
trading guard shows, I'd be pricing cards and on the
radio would be my guy, Arnie Spanier, So all these
years later, it's always a pleasure to chop it up

(39:25):
and yell at you as I want to do. People
yelling and a lot of screaming in the w NBA.
Caitlin Clark out again groin injury. There's some video from
the other day also to where maybe she's nursing a
little bit of an arm injury. Certainly has been bruised
and battered, and certainly has teammates concerned. Jason and I

(39:46):
were talking a little bit last night. It's kind of
funny that the league is finally in a weird circular way,
circuitous route, I guess would be the way to say it.
Even with all the attention to Caitlin Clark this year,
some of the players that have been around a long time,
not that they didn't get shine in the past, but
they're getting even more. Right Kelsey Plumb with the aces

(40:08):
she's been outspoken. We she's been around years, her teammate
Caitlin Clark's that is in Indiana. Now you got Sophie
Cunningham stood up for She's been in the league six years,
but after that incident, gain nearly a million followers on
her insubscribed TikTok a right, But it's those kinds of
things that have added up and you're you're wondering, all right, officiating,

(40:31):
how much is to blame versus Like the human body
eventually breaks down a bit and she she's taken some hits,
doesn't mean she at times doesn't instigate uh and and
get into it with players. But where we're at right now,
it's you know, that's the cash cow to the to
the league games.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
You're one hundred percent right, she's the cash cow. Let
me tell you something though, if there was no Caitlyn
Clark there go back to being the w NBA would
be non existent. We wouldn't care about it anymore. She's
the reason why we care. That's sure. There's people say
all I care and then start listening to the names
of all the great outfits from the WNBA. Not really,

(41:12):
but you don't go to games. They've lost so much
money to what twenty five million a year or what
it was, the only reason they're around is because the
NBA subsidized them, So you know, take that for what
it's worth. But Kaitlin Kark is turning the page on
that she's going to bring him to financial stability, and
she's what the NBAWNBA is all about.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
So we'll see as they move forward, because in the
offing we talk about the new CBA for the NHL
and the expansion to eighty four regular season games. The
WNBA CBA also in negotiations right now, so we're keeping
an eye on the details there. He's already spanner in
for Jason Smith on Mike Carmon as we continue Cooper Flagg,

(41:56):
the week that was and the years ahead. What do
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