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June 28, 2025 • 42 mins

Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open the show with their biggest overarching thoughts and reactions to the NBA draft! What are the early expectations for Cooper Flagg? Which picks were the biggest surprises? Plus, thoughts on all the recent Achilles injuries in sports.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome in a beautiful Friday night, Yes the
long week. Maybe you're starting your weekend. You're on the
highways and byeways. Maybe you're just sipping a nice cognac
watching the NHL Draft in the end of some Major
League Baseball games. However you're listening wherever you're listening to
the show, Thanks for giving us a few minutes of
your time. We look to entertain and inform and rage

(00:49):
and gauge and create a little bit of chaos along
the way. So thanks for being with us on Mike
Carmon Jason Smith Off tonight, which means we go to
the bullpen. BI guys, I had to check in on
him because I got no yellow notepad notes that we've
been so used to loath these many years here at
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
So when a.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Game towards eleven thirty this morning, I said, wait, I
haven't heard from Arnie yet.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Two thirty my time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I was like, Wednesday, you're already texting me, going,
I got a couple of notes for you Monday. I
was waiting Monday. Yeah, so I'm waiting on it. And
then this morning, running a few errands and kids are
home right at summer breaks, we're kind of chatting up,
and all of a sudden, I'm like, wait, I haven't
heard from Arnie. Let me make sure he's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
How are he's okay? I'm good. First of all, I
was a little nervous coming on the air tonight because
I didn't know if you were going to be here,
Because twenty minutes ago I texted you. You never texted
me back. So I was a little worried that maybe
something happened and you are going to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, sometimes do that to you, But I was here.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
You were sitting in there, You're sitting in the studio
doing nothing. You can text back. I said, let's go, Oh,
let's do this. Not a thumb ZU want me to
do with that? I thought that's not a question. I
was gonna.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Now you're driving nothing, but then you'll.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Never learn how to drive if I keep doing it
for you. So I'm gonna let you drive.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I was gonna say, you're gonna try to jerk the
wheel and take us into a ditch. Three and a
half minutes into the show, as Stinking Genus one is
where you find him in the twitters. Find me over
at Swollendome. You've got ideas of what you'd like us
to add to the show, by all means, fire it off.
We'll keep them read. We've got four hours to play with.

(02:34):
We've got a couple of guys potentially game time decisions
in terms of joining us content. It's Friday night. People
have their obligation time. What does that mean game time?
That means they have appointments, and they have dinners, and
they have theater and you know, stuff runs along and
they want to go stage door.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Maybe they want to go stage door. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I'm not I'm not a theater guy.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
If if somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't do. That's not in my repertoire.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
You and I have known each other a long time,
and you do that though, you that's right, that's my thing.
My kids and I absolutely once saw the Book of
Mormon a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I I could go complete blue collar, give me my
old style or perhaps blue ribbon, or I can bougie
it up with the best of them. Get my foie
gras and my expensive wines. I run the Gamut High Society.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
I didn't even go see cats, So there you go.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
You didn't miss much of all the things I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Like I've come, I've come around to lay miz as
I've gotten older when I was younger. You know, a
high school, and this is the tip out there for everybody.
You know, you've got kids that are that are getting
ready for high school, maybe into college. They like theater
a bit. Most theaters will hold back some tickets where
you can go on a student ID for fifteen twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
There you college.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So that's how we got cultured as high schoolers. You know,
I had a girlfriend that was very much hey, we
need to go check this. One time I ran into
your gut. Your buddy Steve kerr okay at a theater
in Chicago, him and Luke Longley and Judd Bushler A
night at the theater.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
You know what's so funny speaking about Kerr, I was
just looking at something from our high school. But somebody
posted something the Doors played at our high school. How
about that? That's crazy, man, I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Man?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Some of these bands before they became famous playing at
high schools and small venues.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Or did they Did they play a straight concert?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Or at some point Morrison start walking around in the
crowd and give a twenty minute, you know, poem off
the top of his a little before the base just
kept playing The Killer Awoke before dawn. All right, Well,
we watched some great pitching exploits tonight, some tough, tough
luck finishes to great starts. We'll get into that as

(04:52):
the night goes on. As we're at the midpoint of
the Major League Baseball season. This week, a lot of
lamentation and hand ringing over the NBA Draft how it
was covered. Fortunately for me, I don't have audio for
such things, so I don't have the same vantage point
as others who decide they want to go after individual

(05:13):
analysts or the shows directors and everything else.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well, it was I just want to jump in there.
It's the This is no fault of anybody, but some
of the interviews to the parents or to the siblings
were just cringe worthy. Mike, I mean it was just painful.
But I know, I know, I know, but you would think,
I know, they're not trained to speak to the media

(05:39):
or but you would think that they would have pat
answers going into It's not like it's snuck up on them. Mike. Oh, hey,
my brother just got drafted. I didn't see that coming
from from miles away. One guy kept saying, I'm speechless.
I'm speech I can't I don't know what to say.
I go, well, yo, yeah, like ten years to figure
out what you're gonna say. It was so cringe worthy

(06:01):
with some of these interviews. I'm like, no, no, what
are you doing? It was Oh.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I mean, it's tough when a lot of your your kids,
as they're being drafted there obviously don't want to go
to their destination and they're they're mouthing obscenities or literally
on the verge of tears.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know, it's tough for the family to then react
to it. Hey, your kid doesn't seem happy. You're happy
that he got drafted here, so you got to love it.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I love the one. But are you well, what the
days you've been waiting for this day for a while? Yes, okay,
and you know I.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Mean that was Look man, you know you know the
rule of interviewing being in radio. As long as you
have you give someone a yes or no answer opportunity,
odds are they're gonna take it.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Hey, did you feel this? Yes?

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yes, I don't have.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
To then expound upon any of my thought process.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
No, but I mean, come on, man, you know how
proud of you? You know you've worked so hard where
we're all so proud. Oh like, well there you go.
We could we could wrap that one. I could just
I didn't see that would come in a mile away.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
But it was.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
It was funny, man. It happens every year, but this
year and see more than than usual. There was some
cringe worthy interviews, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Now we got more more fun and excitement with the draft,
obviously on Cooper Flag, on Ace Bailey.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
The role of family and mentors and agents and advisors.
I use those terms loosely, particularly the advisor term in
all of this, but I'd be remiss. You know you're
a big hockey guy, your son was goalie and getting
after it. Tonight is the NHL Draft live here in
Los Angeles, and I want to say, you know, we're

(07:38):
not gonna go deep dive, obviously, you know I'm excited
though black Hawks.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Blackhawks get well.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But the Blackhawks get a guy named Anton Frondell from
Sweden with the third overall pick, six one two oh five,
introduced by Jeremy Roneck. And that's where I'm going with this.
He's a he's described as a tank on the ice.
We could use more of those guys anyway, an on
the actual players. But what has been a brilliant move

(08:03):
by the NHL in announcing also their CBA extension today.
There you go, there's the business of sports. They will
add two more games to the regular season fifty to fifty.
Revenue split continues. But with each selection, you've got.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
A celebrity getting after it, right.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
So we saw Jeremy Ronick, Okay, hockey guy, but a
legend in Chicago. He announces the draft pick of Frontell
by the way you'll appreciate this. I went to the
Costco a week ago. I had to pick something up,
you know, at the little merch stand where you go
and your voucher thing and the woman that was there
probably mid thirties African American woman wearing a Duncan Keith sweater.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Oh. I love that.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
We became immediate friends. Yeah, so that was great.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
But watching it tonight, right, you've got Adam Sandler for
the Boston Bruins. I saw that introduced himself as Happy Gilmore.
Joshua Jackson, remember him from you know, when he was
a teenager. Now he's Doctor Odyssey, waiting in limbo for
whether that gets renewed. George Kittle just did the Predators
pick Bailey WWE superstar with do the Sharks? Uh Bruckheimer

(09:14):
Jerry Bruckheimer doing the Seattle crack in his movie f
one in theaters as today to meet it buddy.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Really, they're trying, though, they're trying to make it interesting.
They're trying. I mean, it's it's never obviously going to
be what the NFL draft is or anything like that,
but they're trying new things, unlike what the NBA did,
which was painful and especially Day two. But we'll get
to that later on. But the at least the NHL
is trying different stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well, the fact that they had a day too. We
we had a good chuckle about it yesterday. That was
the we can't admit we only did it because of
Brownie last year. We got to run this out. That
in the contract with this media partner, and you know
it changes and everything else, so you work to that.
But all of that to say, Draft week, New New

(09:58):
Blood U not a bad way to bookend a week
that began with an NBA champion being crowned. Right, circle
of life? You want to sing a few bars of.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
That while we're out? Yeah, yeah, no, I mean your.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Best Elton John for you know, I gotta.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Tell you I usually enjoy the NBA Draft. I mean, look,
I know it's only two rounds and I like to
watch a lot of college basketball. This year, though, I mean,
it was a big snooze fest, especially round two. Did
they do it in the dark on purposes of the
lights go out or something like that? Was they only
allowed to have twelve people in there? I mean it

(10:33):
it was like, don't tell anybody we're doing the draft.
Could you please close the door over there? I mean
it was And some of the commentary, especially with Steven A,
it was just I'm not trying to pick on everybody
like that did the broadcast, but they just didn't care.
They didn't put a lot of thought into it.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
That's well, can we just finally all agree for as
long as he's been doing this, even when he sat
behind the desk, well, actually it would have been down
the hall here for Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Not exactly a guy known for his keen research.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, no, so you're not piling on, nor are you
advancing a narrative. It is what it is. We accept
it for what he is. People like to hear him scream,
maybe say something crazy and then moves on from there
like that.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
So as soon as he shows up, that's the guy
that got killed in a Law and Order episode a
couple of weeks ago, and he's best known for shooting
a guy a general hospital.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
He was good in Law and Order. I'll give him credit.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
He was and a half before they found his corpse
in the park spoiler alert.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I was surprised about that. I'm surprised they killed him
off so soon, but he was like.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
He would have gotten a little more mileage out of that.
Character was good.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
I liked it. I did that he's got a future
of that. But he did He's done soap operas.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, no, he's a general hospital guy and they wrote
him in.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
That's right. But the commentary on some of the players,
you know, very short, very brief. You could tell that
he didn't watch a lot of college basketball though you
know a lot of these guys you probably didn't know anyway,
unless you're like Doug Gottlieb, you know what I mean,
and you having to be like a coach of a
college basketball team. Just not a lot of well known

(12:12):
names and not a lot of guys you think are
gonna go ahead and make a big difference when it
comes to the NBA next year.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, but that's it, right if you're a college basketball fan.
And we'll get into this more fully with the look
back at Cooper Flag. You know, we've got a promo
Jason and I running talking about you know him and
what his potential is, Wemby and talking about the new blood.
But when we're talking about the draft, you know you're
gonna see the roster of guys that were drafted by

(12:41):
your squad. Northwestern, We finally had a guy drafted for
the first time since nineteen ninety nine. Congratulation Brooks getting
it done. He goes to Oklahoma City. But the idea
being that you're gonna look at that roster, but you're
not sitting there to watch that, So the show becomes
an NBA show to all right, what's the roster and

(13:02):
how does this guy fit in? You can do all
the pre cut sixty second montage of here's a couple
of video highlights, here's a three point shot, here's him
defending well on the wing or whatever whatever the guy's
skill set is. But you're immediately moving into all right,
how does he make his NBA team better? And one
of the teams that's stunk and we're in the lottery

(13:23):
and probably didn't see a lot of national TV time.
Oh maybe there was a little more learning to be done.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Right right, Well, I'm asking what everybody else is asking.
When you after the first five picks, you're saying, how
does Rutgers have two players in the top five picks?
And go what fifteen and seventeen? Sub five hundred?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I can find that in the podcast. Smith and
I and I just laughed. I said, what a great
recruiting tool for the current coach. Look, I got two guys.
I'm going full Caliperio. I got two guys to the
NBA Top five, come.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Play with me, ed, we're sub five hundred, so I hey, details, details,
that doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, well those kids don't care about the winning part.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah yeah, I mean I guess that's the only thing
that matters. And obviously ast Bailey, I guess going to
show up tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, we'll get we'll get into his situation a bit more.
But yeah, that's the latest headline. Uh. You know, as
you're you're you're jumping ahead on our playbill, you're already
looking ahead to act three like you're trying to get
out of the theater early.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, my bad. But I the only thing
that was intriguing about this whole draft was Cooper Flag
And there was no U you know, suspense he was
going to be number one, he was going to go
to Dallas. The only suspense is how good is he
going to be? Is he going to be that transcendent
player like a Larry Bird and a Magic Johnson when
they came in in seventy nine, or is he just

(14:46):
going to be another great player or or just a
good player.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
How about we talk about that next. Let me give
you one piece of information. Yeah, going into the draft.
Since I know you're a would be betting man. Yes,
I say would be because I know you're not like
it down. But here's here's a bet that you could
have laid down, just to say you want to bet? Okay,
you would have had to lay down one hundred thousand
dollars to win a single dollar on Cooper flag to.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Be the number one pick. Yep, get out of here. That
that much. One hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
That's how much of a given it was.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah, but there's always God forbid. Something could happen, sure,
you know, and he you know, gets injured, or he
gets hurt, he gets hit by a car, knock wood,
and he's not the number one pick. I don't know,
something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
But I mean, how much would you know? Did anybody
lay down any money to the contrary thinking that the
bus scenario, because look how positive you are?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Well, how much should I get back if I put
that like ten bucks? Do I get back like a
penny or something like that?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Fraction?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, fraction?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I think that might have drilled one in half for you.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, you don't get anybody back.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
You get nothing.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Nothing is just if.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You get a hearty handshake. And here we'll print out
the you the cost of printing the voucher was worth
more than the.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You don't even get the buffet. You don't get nothing.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
On many of those left, man, they killed them all. All right,
we'll continue.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
We'll talk Cooper Flag, a little bit of Ace Bailey,
and so much coming out of the NBA Draft. We
got a lot on the dock. It's statue or not statue.
Caitlin Clark misses another game. Uh change in Toronto. Uh,
that's a whole other question. And then the hot seat
because well, no, not the one that the odd couple does,

(16:33):
but because it's the NFL, so we immediately have to
fire guys before they even coach a game. We'll get
into all of that and so much more. Arnie Span,
you're in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmen. Thanks for
hanging with us. It's Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (18:30):
Welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio. Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Tonight off? Maybe lamenting
another Mets loss?

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Where is he? I don't know, shouldn't you know?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
No, I don't care he's not here. I don't think
he worries I'm not here. I mean, look, I've get
texts from people going, you know what he just said?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
You're doing on a day off? Like I don't even
want to.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Know, don't even care.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I hope he's okay, Like as far as I know it,
you know, it's the beginning of summer, as kids off.
Maybe they actually have a weekend trip.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'll see him again Monday. I'll ask him then, what'd
you do? And maybe I won't. Maybe I'll just look
at him and go, hey.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Hey, I want to know you aren't here Friday, and
I'll stop it.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I mean, it's not a you know an animosity thing.
It's just we we've been doing this a while. So
you shrug, you look at each other and you say,
all right, have a good day. We'll see you at
how about a fresca. If you want to find his whereabouts,
you can do that too, Arenie. I mean, send him
one at staking Genius one, find me over at Swollen Dome.
Now talking to NBA draft, obviously Cooper flag the de

(19:39):
facto number one printed cut all the merchandising. We were
joking about the Cooper flag flags. Well guess what fanatics
did as soon as he was drafted. Here's a limited
edition run of thirteen Dallas Mavericks flag side by Cooper,
sold out fast, Jersey's ball, you name it. I mean,
it's just printing money at this point, but trying to

(20:03):
determine what he is for the next phase. It's the
fun of and I think he put it in the
best terms when meeting with the media earlier today, of
I'm not expected to come in here and take over.
I'm coming to a team that is replete with talent. Now,
obviously I'm paraphrasing and changing some of the verbiage, but

(20:26):
it's the idea that you have Kyrie Irving coming off
an injury. You have Anthony Davis, You're gonna have Klay Thompson.
You've got a couple of guys who recent draftees that
are there right the re signing Daniel Gafford, you got
Lively coming back, and PJ Washington. I mean, you've got
a roster that has some bodies that can go and

(20:47):
make some noise. So while we as a collective will
be looking at it as a my goodness, you know,
he's the number one pick and here's our gaudy expectations
of him, he goes into a team where you've got
other options.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
You got to worry about.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Anthony Davis is on the cork, right, you kind of
have to worry about him as much or more as
you have to worry about what Cooper Flagg's stat line is.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
No, you see, maybe I'm not understanding something. Maybe you
or the listeners can maybe explain it to me then,
like I'm a two year old.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Oh I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
This is well good because this is Cooper flag. We're
not just talking about the number one pick, okay, We're
not talking about every year there's a number one pick
and hopefully he's going to turn into an NBA All Pro,
All Star or whatever. We're talking about Cooper Flag, who
is supposed to be transitional like a Magic Johnson, Michael
Larry Bird the way they saved the NBA. This guy

(21:39):
is supposed to be what like what when his career's done,
supposed to be like one of the top ten greatest
players to ever play basketball. I mean, that's what I'm
putting on him, what you're putting it. I have that expectations, Mike,
I have expectations of him being the next Lebron? So
am I wrong on that? I mean, yeah, I know expectations,
but that's what they've built him up to be. Am

(22:00):
I wrong to think that he's supposed to be the
nixt Lebron and the next superstar coming to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, I'm gonna say this first off, I'm really glad
I'm not in the same chat rooms and messageboards you are,
because you know, it's anytime we do this to a guy, right,
we do it in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Ah, you know what you compare him to Brady's Not's
not do that not just we're doing it.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
What are the names you just invoked? You went to
Magic Johnson and Larry bron James and Larry Bird. But
top players of all time for a guy who played
one year of college basketball right right?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Because Larry and Magic saved the NBA. That's how not
only are they were the best players, but they saved
the NBA.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Are you saying that the NBA needs saving?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
I expect right now Cooper Flag to be one up
of just a regular superstar. I think he's gonna take
the NBA to new heights if he's that great, if
he's like gonna be so much better than Wamba Yama
and all those guys out there. I don't know. Is
it gonna be as polarizing as a Magic Johnson. I

(23:10):
don't know that that's a as a Michael Michael Jordan.
That's a big part of it also there, Mike.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Well, but that's just it, right.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, we we get lulled into, as many have
headlined it, with the you know, the great white hope
uh or in parent parentheses, the you know the word
next uh that goes into that, right, and we certainly
we we could run maybe a little bit of a
parallel over in the w NBA with the expectations and

(23:38):
grandiose response that Caitlin's Clark has has gotten since she
showed up.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
You w Olympic team made a bucket over Anthony Davis.
We saw that a million times in the in the highlights.
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, but that's it, right, you start building up, and
certainly for the NBA looking for positive press. Adam Silver,
you know, is very good at wagging his finger about
negative press coverage and negative on covering.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Of his of his league from league partners.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
And I think you know, from the partners, you normally
have an agreement that you're gonna, you know, find some
happy medium.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
But yeah, for Cooper Flagg, no, I get it.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Do you know who he is? Mike? Maybe? Okay? Not
only did I o't put him even a step higher
than Magic Johnson and Larry Bird because this is what
I was expecting, the next transitional player of the NBA.
Not only the next superstar Mike, he could be like
the next logo forget about the face.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Now, we're always already transit and logo.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
That's what he's been built up, Mike. This is what
he's been built up to be, the next everything. I mean,
if I told you a guy was coming into the NFL,
and he was better than Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes.
Well what do you buy? Laugh?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
But not me if it's the collective No, but I
say that for the collective world as well, because Cooper
Flag maybe a guy that averages.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Eighteen eight and eight. But is that gonna get people excited? No?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Not Well it will be damn good.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
But what's he got to do statistically to live up
to your He's gotta be grandiose expect he's got to
He's not scoring thirty five a game with that roster.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I was gonna say he's got to be top five
in scoring.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
That's way based on the way that roster is constructed.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Right, he may have some thirty point games, he's not
going out and shooting twenty five times a night.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
It's just not the.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Way that team pointed. Now, he's he should be the
number one option. He's he's the he's supposed to be
the best guy or one of the best guys in
the NBA. You better believe I'm gonna let him shoot
as much as I want. And then I heard the
coach coach kid said, well, we may play him at
point guard, make him uncomfortable. We don't care if he
turns the ball over. I said, I listen to.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
This, well, but there's something to be said for it. It's,
you know a little bit Jason and I. You can
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quest for global domination. Yeah, that's right, but it's it's
the idea that you do have the six' nine vision
and that's what's gonna Make that's what makes him, special,

(26:22):
right is the ball handling skills at that, height which
is why when you start comparing him To bird And
magic And Lebron.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
James what do they all have in? Common they're all
coming in at six somewhere between six seven and six.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
TEN because i never believe measurements FOR the nba because
we know that there's some fudging that. Goes, on hell
they were joking with one of the guys in his
after he. WAS drafted i forget who. It was they
were joking about his Height and, i'm, like well if
you push the, hair down do you how many inches do?

Speaker 6 (26:50):
You?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Lose right that kind, Of thing so like The old
i'm knowly one That has so you're not the. Only
one there's plenty. Of folks but whenever we can compaired
to the greatest of, ANY sport i take it with a.
GRAIN assault i love that that's the challenge for, the
guy but is?

Speaker 4 (27:08):
It realistic well realistic?

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Or not that's what's been put. On him and he
was the number, one pick and he was the best guy,
in college and everybody knows who, he is and everybody's
gonna be. Watching him the spotlight's gonna be. On him
he's gonna get, All. That mike that's what's coming, with
this not only being the number, one pick But being.
Cooper flag so whether he's ready for it, or not

(27:32):
this is gonna be a whole new opportunity, For Him
and i'm curious to see how he's gonna be able to.
Handle it what happens when they? Start losing if there's some,
five hundred how do? You start because his kid's never
lost in his life Until until duke.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Last, YEAR well, i, mean look all five starters. Got,
DRAFTED yes i didn't see them. Win anything.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
That's crazy, you know You Think john shire would have
had him in the, you know would have won the
championship no.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Matter what but he's a guy that's already experience. Instant,
injury yeah so check that box in a. Short season
now we go to an eighty. Two game plus you
just watched the gauntlet that we. Ran, through right what's
the other subplot?

Speaker 6 (28:11):
OF?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Everything nba we need to commission studies about how much
guys are putting stress on. Their legs we need to
talk about. Achilles injuries we need to solve. All, This
okay so from, now on as soon as your team
is done for, the year until your first, preseason practice
like when camp starts in oc Beginning, of october you
can't touch.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
A basketball is that where we're going with all?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Of this well that.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Might, be look everybody else wants to shorten, the season
truncate every, playoff series and do. Everything else so, All
Right anthony davis a few, years ago he's now the.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
New hero he's the.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
New standard when everybody mocked him for not touching, a
basketball when, he SAID well i, haven't played, it's like how?

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Dare you but maybe he was.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
The, genius yeah two, years ago there wasn't any achilles
injuries in. THE playoffs i believe this year we had.
An abundance so maybe so you hit the. Bad, penny yeah,
we exactly we we hit the. Bad penny and and
that's just the way it just turned out. That way by,
the way how many how many people already? Have it

(29:15):
must watch television To See cooper Flag And brownie james
in That First summer?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
League game is that a night where we're in. THE
studio i don't even know what night, it IS because
i tell, You this, IF not i will be. Anywhere
ELSE and i.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Love sport but in terms of summer, league action. No,
chance well you don't want To See.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Cooper flag if you want to, SEE him i want to.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
See him he and and For the mavericks And and
lakers getting.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
After, it yeah, you see right off, the Bat If
cooper flag was playing For the lakers Or the knicks
and he came in, with that, you know uh expectations
you would. Be watching you would definitely. BE watching i
promise you That, he.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yes dude i'm a guy who hasn't seen winning basketball
in my city since nineteen.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Ninety.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Eight, yeah Yeah And derek rose that.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Was, Great yeah but the fact that he Plays for,
dallas already.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
That doesn't make me care any more.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Or, Less, really no.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's summer.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
League, basketball yeah But unless i'm, betting it how MUCH
am i gonna sit and watch that unless someone's given
me courtside seeds to go hang Out at Thomas and
mack and giving me one of those little fans because
they'll be on hundred ninety five degrees.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
In there if you told me THAT that espn was
Airing A cooper flag just shoot around to warm up
and he wasn't playing, A game i'd, Watch that, i'd,
say OKAY but.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I would suggest That maybe beth gives you some. Chores back.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
What do? You watching i'm Just Watching cooper flag shoot AROUND.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
On tv so what you're, saying is if there was,
the opportunity say on a pay per, view channel you're
not going down the road of some. Nefarious action you'd
love To Watch cooper flag run through some post drills
and some JUMP.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Sh i want to See Everything, cooper flag and THAT'S
what I thought i'm gonna be getting when he comes TO.
The nba i'm gonna be watching, something really. Really special
so it doesn't make a difference if it's a summer,
league game a, preseason game a regular, season, game whatever.
It is, you know we're gonna be seeing something really. Really,
special now the fact that he maybe didn't have that

(31:34):
really special year we thought he was gonna have, a
duke they didn't win, it all maybe that kind of
suffered a. Little Bit But i'm i'm excited to see
what he. Can, Do man, i'm pumped.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
YOU know I think i think we're all excited. To
it there's just levels. To it you, Next Level ian
roddy and are executive. Producer tonight ian make Sure That
adam silver gets that entire little yeah exactly here about
his sycophantic and kiss ass for the league is anything
that's ever AIRING. On fog.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
There's a lot of people that probably think exactly THE
way i do right now that. Are listening, they're, LIKE
yeah i want to see this. Kid, play well they.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Watched him everybody wants to see. Him play we're talking,
about levels levels.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Of it we'll find out When that summer week. GAME
is i bet you end. UP watching i know you're
gonna watch. THE highlights i promise.

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Speaker 4 (32:51):
Arnie out, after, all well who?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
CAN hell I thought i get the saga the, day
OFF did?

Speaker 8 (32:55):
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Speaker 4 (33:08):
Dallas, kiss okay so.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
You'll watch i'll.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Be NO actually i may not.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Be, HERE legitimately i may Be in virginia and we're working,
on uh we're working on a, studio anyway and now you're.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Working Harder baltimore orioles won twenty two to eight Tonight Against,
tampa bay even Though the rays led six nothing in the.
Second Inning, in atlanta there was a rain delay of
over two hours at. The start It's now phillies eleven
nothing Over the braves after.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Two and a.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Half, innings wow there.

Speaker 9 (33:37):
Are fans who stuck through that. Rain Delay faithful, braves
fans and they have Rewarded By bryce elder giving up
three home runs and a reliever another and down eleven
nothing already after two and. A Half mariners league going,
excuse me tie going to, the night five to Five.
At texas houston leads seven to four Over the cubs

(33:58):
in the top of. THE Night a houston win would
put their home record at thirty one. And Thirteen the brewers,
at home holding On against colorado seven to six in
the bottom of. The Eighth the dodgers got a leadoff
Homer from Shoheo tani is. TWENTY ninth la is Ahead
At kansas city five to four in the bottom of.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
The eighth there are two. Late games marlins lead two
to One at arizona bottom of, The fourth angels Ahead
of washington five to two in the top of. The
fourth Angels Manager ron washington will remain on medical leave
for the rest of. The season road Wins For san Francisco.
And minnesota Tonight For saint louis as Well the cardinals
won five Nothing. At Cleveland sunny gray now eight and

(34:36):
two pitched a, complete game one hitter near no Hitter
at cincinnati for the, Winning Pitcher nick martinez Of. The
reds he had a no hitter until no outs in
the ninth eight one The final reds Over. The Padre
spencer Steer of cincinnati hit three. Home runs Toronto sent
boston to a six straight loss. Nine nothing it Was
the yankees three nothing Over the A's and pittsburgh beat

(34:58):
Up the mets nine.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
To ONE.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
The Wnba caitlin clark was out again with a. Groin
injury indiana One at dallas ninety four Eighty Six kelsey
mitchell thirty. Two points minnesota won in Overtime at atlanta
ninety six. Ninety Two The minnesota links thirteen, and two
and among the three late games IN, The Wnba new
york with a record of eleven, and three Trailing at
phoenix fifty three to forty late in The First phoenix

(35:23):
mercury eleven, and Four And florida PANTHERS Playoff Mvp sam
bennett signed an eight. Year EXTENSION the nhl and its
players union agreed to an extension OF the cba through.
Twenty THIRTY The nhl draft. Started tonight it's just the
first round tonight IN downtown la in the theater next
door To The. Hockey areta we have had A second,

(35:43):
American selected Wisconsin Defenseman logan Hensler to ottawa at number twenty.
Three overall and by, THE way i don't know if,
you've Seen well arnie did mention IT the i forget
what they're. Calling it they should. Cancel it whatever it
is the video screen when the draft choice comes over
to talk to people in the draft room who just.

(36:03):
Took it it's one technical problem after another, question asked
five seconds of. Dead air it's just it's there's been
nothing worse on sports television SINCE ESPN's.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Nba Halftime, oh Jesus.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
That's Steve. De seger never never a man that leaves his.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Opinion unaccounted it's our guy at the news desk with us,
all night and certainly He and Arnie together sunday nights
when Arready's. WITH plank i think planked off. This, weekend,
YES yes i GAVE the i give him the week
game him the weekend. For you is he still recovering from?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
The?

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Parade Oh The Oklahoma City. Championship, parade yeah well there's
only there's only four, people there so. Stop it it
wasn't like there was a lot of.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
People there of course you had to go There at
Stake and genius one is where You find Arnie. On
twitter find me over a swollen dome coming up next by.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
The, WAY yeah i just want, to SAY if i
told you that their nickname Was The Oklahoma, city sooners
nobody would know. The difference instead of THE thunder i
told you That, the suitors nobody would. Correct me they, Would, say,
OH yeah i Love The Oklahoma. City sooners, they're great
my favorite.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
BASKETBALL team i think you're wrong, On THAT but i
do like the cut of. Your jim you'll have to.
Save that we'll cut in print and you can play
that Back For. Chris blank run that joke again with.
One again see the response you.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Get.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
There hey coming, up next we got the play of,
the day and then we've got One former jet makes
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Speaker 2 (37:49):
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(38:10):
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Chair Tonight alex tyshirt with us on, the sounds and
Of Course steve disager at the, News desk brandon in
the back getting audio cuts as we. Roll through but
one of the things we need to go and pay witness, To.
Here arnie we'll Do that jets stuff in a. Few,
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Speaker 3 (38:32):
Play of, THE day i want to highlight something pretty
Big In Major.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
League baseball, the pitch he lifts it high in the
air left, Center Field deep klaid on, the, run turns
looks and it is off the base of the wall
around the third Base is brooks into. Second Base elias
diaz with a double and that Is the padres first
hit tonight and a standing Ovation For nick martinez.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Listening On the red's radio, Call there martinez picks up his. Fifth,
win uh the one hitter before he departs, the game.
Six strikeouts and it's not, to, say ah you lost your. No,
Hitter no i'm celebrating all things great pitching because we
did a Lot With clayton kershaw and where he is
in the annals, of history right three strikeouts Against The.

(39:19):
White sox in his, next start he hits three. Thousand
something we're not gonna see a ton of. Going forward, but.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Oh you're not gonna, see that you KNOW what.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I mean but like when we talk about it and
even day to day things, like This And sonny gray
had a fantastic game. As well, you know we're talking
about dominance on the mound in an age where getting
a guy and coaxing a young pitcher to get to
the sixth inning is such. A chore you can get
through a six inning when a guy goes seven. OR

(39:49):
eight i want to make sure that we. Give it
it's not and it's just. Due whatever the final les
that that you know these guys are still taking the
ball h and and that they have the trust of
their managers to go deeper into games and have.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Earned that it's not, the trust. YOU know i got
to Say something i'm. WITH you i used, to, say oh,
come on if the guy can go four or five
innings that he's, you, know, pitching great keep him, in, there, six,
seven eight let's. Go ahead the guy's, red hot keep him.
In there but now when we start having injuries that
you see in basketball, with achilles could you imagine if
you have a pitcher in there that pushed himself to

(40:24):
the seventh or eighth inning, and uh and then. Got hurt,
you know there was a picture In The College world
series one hundred and thirty pitches he threw and he
was going to be the number. One, pick so, you
know with everybody getting hurt IN, the nba do we
really want to risk these pitchers going? Eight? Innings nowadays that's.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
The problem, you know what's the, magic number Aren't he
it might have to be. Built differently it might have to.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Be, five yeah it might have to.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Be five when we talk about how many pitches? Is it?
Is it is? It eighty is it the number?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Innings right if he's got no no stress innings and
he's out in, twelve, PITCHES right i have the same
as a. Thirty pick what's? That, coefficient hey you're working
on an. Algorithm here so, for me when we get
into these guys that are into the eighth or, NINTH
inning i want to make sure we give them.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Their just it's not one hundred, pitches anymore that's. For
sure remember it used to be the hundred. Pitch cap
but that's.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Just it and what is his arm supposed to fly
into the third deck OR full i.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Don't know are you supposed to? Have achilles you're not
supposed to have achilles pop like that all?

Speaker 8 (41:22):
The?

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Time, balls well.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
You, know what the, human body as great as it
is and resilient as, it is is not perfect play of.

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