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November 18, 2025 41 mins

Jason and Mike tell you exactly what they’ve learned from the Cowboys’ big win over the Raiders on Monday Night Football. And Jason feels like we're watching the end of Geno Smith as a starting QB in the NFL!

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single night. So the Cowboys beat the Raiders tonight thirty three, sixteen,

(01:14):
and we know there's gonna be some drama waiting to
hear from Brian Schottenheimer, Cowboys head coach, because this look
this game wasn't very close from the beginning, a beginning
of the game in which Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens
did not see because they were not on the field
for the first drive for the Cowboys. A little bit
of a shock er. Was it an injury situation? Was

(01:36):
it a they both have to go to the bathroom?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Like, what is it? I gotta go to the bathroom, man,
I gotta go. I had all's equipment on.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's really really hard. Uh, trust me, I missed. I
missed like three minutes of a hockey period one because
I had to go to the bathroom and too much equipment.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But we found out middle of the first half from
Lisa Salters, who sideline reported that it was not an
injury situation. It was a coaches decision that George Pickens
and CD Lamb would not start the game. Now, obviously
it wasn't that big of a transgression because they came

(02:10):
in the game very quickly, and that's when the game
went downhill because Pickens was great, Ceedee Lamb was great,
and the Cowboys offense roll. Yeah, I mean the Raiders
got out to that three nothing league. I mean it
seemed in surmounted.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, it all just went.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's insurmountable. Indeed, McMahan, you know the Raiders. Here's the thing,
it's not. It's not for the Raiders. Like you know
we say about Hey, if if Mets games were seven
innings long, they'd probably win the World Series. If Raiders
games were like four minutes long instead of sixty, like,
they might be five hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I start out three to nothing games over. You know,
it's starting to trend though. How much money Chip Kelly
makes for this thirty first ranked Raiders offense really difficult.
But six million plus y you know now, But for
the Cowboys, for this ced lamb and and uh George
Pickens situation, say, whatever it is, it wasn't that big
a deal because they played who knows, we'll find out

(03:04):
when to hear at some point did they fail to
pick up the dinner tab? Maybe maybe I saw the
story the well, you know, how much money was that
dinner for you? Yeah, it's a lot of But I
gotta say for this for the Dallas Cowboys and something
really positive because you know, we can get to all
the playoff stuff in a bit. But like the Eagles,

(03:26):
who are very comfortable with chaos, right, they have that
controlled chaos comfort that your Eagles have when they all
the dysfunction they have had over the course of this
year and they still roll up wins.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I thought for sure last night's gonna catch up with them.
The Lions are rolling offensively, and all of a sudden,
the Eagles put up a defensive performance makes it look like, man,
good luck beating them in January. It's probably not gonna
happen like that. How easy it happens.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Phillips in the middle, it just was. It was shocking.
But this is the Lions.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
They give you a stinker way too often to the
team with that kind of offense can a couple times
a year, I get it, But now you're gonna be
at five six times a year. Why does the offense
put that kind of stinker up there? But the Eagles
are very comfortable in all the controversy and chaos with
Aj Brown. Is he getting the football?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is he not?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
We're going rogue calling plays, We're not. Nick Siriani is mad,
He's not. But the Cowboys. Whatever, this is irrelevant, gonna
have zero impact on this season, zero impact on Pickins,
zero impact on Cde Lamb. As you could see, you
could argue had a positive impact on George Pickens because
he had an incredible game tonight proving he can be

(04:35):
the co number one with Cede Lamb. And here are
the two best receivers in the NFL, the best ten
and receiving tandem and football. And it's why the Cowboys
playoff hopes are still there because they can outscore you
every single game. The Cowboys, they look at this and go,
you think this is controversy, forget it, man, this is
this is nothing. This is not this is not even JV.

(04:55):
This is freshman team controversy. Oh yeah we missed, we
missed the first four snaf Yeah, okay, not a big deal.
Every day the Cowboys live in chaos generally, not even
on the field stuff. It's all off the field drama
with Jerry Jones whenever he's created with when whether it's
Micah Parsons contract or Dak Prescott's contract or making a

(05:15):
trade or not making a trade, or over over paying
for Quinn Williams who had a sack tonight. Oh by
the congratulations. Uh the Cowboys are so comfortable it's like
has zero effect on them. I think if I guarantee
you Cowboys players will go to it and they go.
The ones that go to other teams go wow, this
is this is what it's like. This is this is

(05:36):
what life is like on on teams that don't have
stuff happen.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
To them every every day.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
This is what like, Wow, man, this is this is
this is great. I didn't know this is I didn't
I didn't know this is how things were really work.
I'm just used to controversy every single day and I
block it out. No, but that's said, it becomes normalized.
Like what's the the range of chaos? Like we watch
we watch a lot of news and we're in our
feeds all day long, and just as you think a

(06:04):
story's gonna be big, guess what, something else shows up?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Something else on Listen to KFI here in Los Angeles
a bunch, like we're in the middle of talking about, hey,
a breaking story here now out we're in Los Angeles.
That story's five minutes ago. Something else happened on the
other side of town. Showing you a video as we're
sitting here in the studio, Schottenheimer sprinting over to the
bench for CD Lamb and George Pickens after they scored
their first touchdown, giving them a double hug. So, yeah,

(06:31):
whatever it was, it became the all right, by the
letter of the law, we have to do something. And
I think it goes back to the old Jimmy Johnson
idea of you've got to treat your stars differently. So
maybe this would have been something more egregious. I mean,
this is a Jamar Chase spitting in somebody's face. Stupid,
And you know this is probably a curfew, probably a

(06:53):
team rule, fell asleep in a meeting, whatever the case
may be. So you know what, by principle, I have
to discipline you. But you're a star, and without you
get back out there. After that first series failed, Jason,
you might never know what they did. You okay with that?
Are you gonna you're gonna make It'll be okay? I
think you should commission Jason Smith investigates.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Dick Tracy over here.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Screw that toy guy, You're the new man into Tracy Tracy.
I got a cool fidori you could wear in the
whole nine yard got, Jason Smith finds out, Oh, I'd
love to have some inspector gadget stuff like an arm
that goes really really long, or you know, basically just
you know, wearing the trench coat. I look like the
Hamburglar wearing that long trench on the hats.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
People would say something else you.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Go with because that's an inspector gadget. You had the
big arm that would go up and grab stuff. We
were trying to reinvent the.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Character here would have been one that would have been good.
Big strives, big, big.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Shoes to fill, shoes to fill, big shoes to fill,
big shoes to fill. Now it's it's kind of it's
kind of weird that we're talking about the Eagles and
the Cowboys here in this both being able to thrive
in controversy, because quite honestly, I do have much more.
Last week, I had a pretty good level of appreciation

(08:12):
for it. Now I have an incredible amount of appreciation
for teams that can thrive with controversy. It doesn't mean
it's great, but I want to appreciate the fact that
the Eagles can win in situations like this and that
the Cowboys can win in situations like this, because the
Eagles right now are the closest thing we have to
the Cowboys of the nineties, because you talk about a

(08:34):
team that was a dysfunctional dynasty where guys didn't get along.
Not everybody, no, look, not everybody loved every player on
the team. Not everybody loves the quarterback in Philadelphia right now,
not everybody loves the head coach. And they're still able
to win and win big. Being able to succeed with
all this drama is impressive. It's fun. Like the Eagle stuff.

(08:55):
We need to make more front page stuff every day
Cowboys stuff, Hey, they're front page. They're just not winning
like they were in the nineties, so they don't take
up all the oxygen because well, you got to win
to be able to keep that going over the course
of the span of two three years. Like the Eagles
won last year, and I wouldn't be surprised if they
won again this year. But to do it with this
kind of drama, like the Eagles stuff needs to be

(09:17):
front page news. They're coming off a championship and they
don't like each other and who knows. I mean, if
you are going rogue on plays and you're still the
quarterback and you're still starting a wide receiver like that.
This is dysfunction that. Wow, man, this takes you back
to those glory days of you know, twenty five thirty
years ago where it's like man, because no teams can
win like that now, right, Look, this goes back to

(09:39):
really look at those dynasties, right the Lakers of the
late nineties early two thousands, where Shaq and Kobe didn't
get along and they hated each other. That was an
incredible era in sports. You can say the Bulls a
little bit of the nineties with Rodman coming in and
look they had they had to push out Doug Collins
and bringing Phil Jackson. Phil wasn't always everybody's favorite guy.
Scotty Pitpen not going into a game like the Bulls

(10:02):
had their own drama as well. But that's the last
time we had dynasties that were like this. We had
teams that won more than once that were like this.
Because when you get into the early two thousand, what
did you have the Patriots and.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
They were boring.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, I mean you do have the the Warriors and
the wild but but you got Draymond Green. Yeah, but
it added an element of danger he got suspended in
finals for he did, but they were able to win. Like,
that's not something that overshadowed the team. It's that was
one that was one guy. And still it's it's built
on Steph and Clay and KD and winning. So yeah,
we had a little bit of a we have a

(10:36):
little bit of a side show with Raymond. He's been
more of a side show. All this other stuff was
all big front and center. Like you're talking about the Bulls,
it's Jordan and pittpen and Jackson and and and Rodman
and okay, and and for the Lakers at Shack and
it's Kobe, and it's Phil boy Phil Jackson. A lot
of these sure, the Cowboys, Jimmy Johnson and Aikman and
Emmett and Irvin and and and defensive line and the

(10:57):
defensive stars and the offensive line, like these are all
the biggest players. And then you look at all the
other dynasties that we've seen. Okay, the Spurs dynasty was
kind of boring dynasty. When the Lakers had the second
run with Kobe and and Paul, there wasn't a lot
of drama. It was, well, now here's Kobe ascending and
being the guy we thought he was. And yeah, a

(11:18):
little bit of drama with with with the Warriors, but
there was never a point where we thought like, boy,
are they ever really not going to win? Like they
won all the time, but you still had three more,
two more chances to win the sties. After that you
didn't win, you still have two more chances to win,
still a three walk to finish the job. So, I mean,
it's so it's so rare to see that now really

(11:39):
takes me back, Like this is like a throwback to
that time, which was boy when when they would all
make the big headlines on the field, they made the
big headlines off the field and they won and they
won big, Like that's not something we say, but it's
funny with some of this stuff, right, it becomes massive
headlines and it's to a large degree kind of stupid.
Like the the aj Brown stuff, to me is just
inane chatter, and he certainly feeds into it with the

(12:02):
twitch and whatever. But in the end, okay, either get
the ball or you don't. The Jalen Hurts stuff is
fascinating to me, but it's generally one or two reporters
who are really beating the drum for they don't like him.
It's not a massive industry wide thing. It's like, okay,
so who do you know in there that doesn't like
Jalen Hurt. It's like who is your one to one contact?

(12:24):
Otherwise everybody else? Just like all right, Sirianni's different. Big
dom is a different element to thing. Also at raw tonight,
by the way, hanging out with Cooper Dejen. But all
of that to say that you have the right now.
I think the fact that social media exacerbates it, like
little on one or two word or paragraph answers become

(12:47):
lightning rods because people jump for content, particularly in the
local markets. That's where it gets fed, right, and then
you'll have long time beat writers or radio hosts that
decide they have to have, you know, blow a gasket
in their columns or whatever and take everything to the extreme.
But for the most part, it's a you deal with
it because you are seeing the never ending churning news

(13:10):
beast that it is twenty four to seven in your marketplace,
goes this a big deal?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Moving on like this thing today? Nothing man Again, I'd
be curious if it was anything more than you know what,
They weren't there for bed check or whatever the case was. Uh,
you guys didn't buy cookies. My daughter was having the
popcorn fundraiser and it's really good popcorn. You guys didn't
buy and you so you're not starting the game. We're
gonna learn you. Okay, it's gonna kill your game. Start streak,

(13:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:10):
Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. We got more in the Cowboys and
the Raiders coming up in a few minutes, including well, hey,
we're gonna talk about the end of an era for
a couple of quarterbacks right now, then we'll maybe get
to the end of the Gino Smith era coming up
a little bit, because boy, that thing looks like it's.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
The day after week eleven, and we've already seen two
quarterback changes, one because of injury, one because of ineffectiveness.
The ineffectiveness should have happened a while ago, but a
couple of big fantasy weeks saved him his job. Justin
Fields will no longer start for the Jets to Rod

(15:55):
Taylor will be the starting quarterback for New York starting
this week against the Ravens. Aaron Glenn usually pretty tight
lipped about stuff like this. I wouldn't be surprised if
that was it. I also wouldn't be surprised if somehow
Justin Fields got back under center at some point. But
Justin Fields, and this is what I really I shake.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
My head on.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Is that the reason the guy lost his job? And
this sounds crazy because he sucks? Well, yes, that that's
the big That's what I mean. If you boil it thing,
it's only one thing, yeah, but this goes beyond you stink. Now,
there's only one thing. There's only one thing wrong with
Justin Fields.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He stinks.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But usually quarterbacks lose their jobs because they don't put
points on the board, they turned the ball over too much,
they've lost the locker room. All these things and all
those those are all reasons why Justin Fields just just
understand this for a second. Justin Fields lost his job

(16:54):
because three or four times a game he can't hit
a wide open wide receiver four first down or play
to extend a drive.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
The Jets weren't asking Justin Fields to come in and
be what he was it. They want him going to
be the dual threat quarterback. Run for seventy five yards
a game, throw for one hundred and seventy five to
two hundred. And that's the most eye opening aspect to
Justin Fields is that he's been in the league this
long and he's still three or four times a game

(17:25):
missus receivers who are wide open, guys in the flat,
guys outside the numbers, who have five yards on the
defensive back, and the ball is sailed over their heads
or it's at their feet. And I mean, watch a
Jets game and three four times a game you will
hear the color commentators say, boy, that's a throw. Justin
Fields has to make Boy, that that's a throw the
Jets have to have. You want to go back to

(17:46):
when he got Garrett Wilson hurt one. All he's got
to do is complete too easy passes to him in
the flat for an extra five yards for a field goal,
and Justin Fields couldn't even do that. It's amazing that
this guy has been in the NFL for this long
and he can't complete easy passes. Not that I expect
him to do the tough stuff. Again, the Jets weren't say, hey,
come in and be great. No, no, no, But the
guy three or four times a game easy passes, a

(18:09):
third and seven pass where a guy is open on
the sideline and the ball is skipped to him, or
it's five feet outside and out of bounds, And I
just shake my head, going, how does he miss these throws?
These are easy And he's got a strong enough arm.
He's got a strong enough arm to get there when
he throws to the middle of the field. He's pretty
good right now. He's not great, but he's never gonna

(18:30):
be great. But again, that's not the player he is
when he throws to the middle of the field, he's good.
But what did I tell you from the beginning of
the season. If he has to throw outside the hashmarks,
forget it. He can't complete a pass there. If you
spotted him fifteen yards, hey, you can start fifteen yards
close to the receiver and throw the football and it's
going to be that you can't do it. He is
absolutely abysmal outside of the hashmarks. Now, I don't know

(18:52):
if you can do some advanced metrics on that, or
you know, get the great researcher Sarah Lanks to look
into this. But I guarantee you if you did his
quarterback rating when he throws in the middle third of
the field versus the outer third of the field, it
would it would look like he looks like a world
beater in the middle third, and he looks like a
guy that is not even Zach Wilson on the outer thirds.

(19:13):
He simply can't make those throws. And I don't get
how he's still in the NFL doing this and starting
when those are throws he just can't make. And now
it's done, and now his career is a starting quarterback
is over. Whether he gets back under center for the
Jets the rest of this year, but his career now
as a starter is done. I'm sure he'll be backing
up Lamar Jackson in Baltimore next year, which would make

(19:36):
a lot of sense because if you have to go
to him for a couple of games, Hey, justin, you're
not gonna throw the football at all. You're just gonna
run the football. Okay, don't worry about throw. You're just
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's done as.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
A starting quarterback. But just think about that. How a
nept you have to be when really all the Jets
would ask for it, Like Whatdy Johnson said, if we
can complete a pass to be fine, Like you see
the big plays, Hey, third and seven, Jetsy to first
down here to keep the defense off the field. Nope,
defense has to go right back out because Justin Fields
can't make a throw and the other team goes right
down the field. Now it's fourteen to three, Like the

(20:05):
guy lost his job because three or four times a
game he can't throw an easy pass to a player
who was open.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now, we've watched him through the years.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Last year he completed a career best sixty five point
eight percent as a member of the Steelers, and they
won their first three games. He finished four and two
before he was deposed and the Russell Wilson era began.
Now was he world beating No, he had two games
where he threw for more than two hundred yards, but again,

(20:36):
winning football is winning football. One thing he does not
do is turn the ball over and put it in
the harms way, for better or for worse. Right, it's
one of those things that we go back to. Even
my beloved Chicago Bears, you know as we call them
the beloved with Caleb Williams a year ago, great touchdown
to interception ratio, but didn't put the ball in harms way.
Everything was within five yards of the line of scrimmage,

(20:57):
didn't push down field, took a lot of sacks, well,
justin field still takes a bunch of sacks trying to
make things happen, but he doesn't put the ball in
harm's way. The touchdown interception ratio is always going to
be fantastic, But the numbers outside outside the hash marks, yeah,
I'd love to see those splits. Trying to effort those
and get that overlan be as certainly gamed to game.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You see the.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Shot chart that shows up right the Hey, let's see
where those completions weren't outside the hash marks. No, it's
not happening, which is insane because he does have the
arm strength and we watched that going back to his
time in Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So it's still that head scratcher.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I think that's what as he goes through and
what will probably be another five years in the NFL,
maybe with four different teams, is that someone's believing that
they're gonna have that right system and they're gonna find
the way to unearth that. And I don't know if
it is a reticence because the margin of error is

(21:57):
so waffer thin between winning and losing, because you know,
you don't have that explosive an offense, whether you were
to blame for it or not. But you're also banking
on a defense. What did he have in Pittsburgh? He
had a defense that rose up to support, Hey, just
don't make mistakes. And while this Jets defense, are they

(22:18):
good enough for that?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
No they're not.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
And now that they've traded away all their key component barts, well,
no you're not getting that at all. But justin fields
will always have that one or two plays, whether with
his legs or when he does push the ball downfield,
that's going to make him the apple of someone's eyes.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
See, I think I hear you.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
In theory, we always talk about that that there's always
a system for somebody. But I think enough teams have
seen him.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, but look at where he's going.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
They know that he's that that he can't do it
Chicago with a bunch of gesters, right, but at Pittsburgh
where nobody trusts what their offense is trying to do,
regardless of who's under center since Spend where Ofethlisberger went
and took put on a headset to criticize all the
quarterbacks that came out from and Jets. Yeah but but now,
but now, after this long, his best shot is to

(23:09):
go somewhere as a backup and hope that I get
a chance to start for whatever reach I jump in
and that's it. That's the only But there's no way
he's ever getting to a team where they're going to say, hey, yeah,
you'll be our bridge cut that that's never happening.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
He's a break glass in case of emergency. Yet you
can't say out for every other quarterback that's played for
the Jets.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, but just I feel pretty good, many thriving, but
we got to get him two degrees of separation. So
there's two more teams and then field days are coming. No,
I told you everybody else I get. But who are
the two guys I told you not happening for Justin
Fields and Zach Wilson sign. I know I'm never going

(23:49):
to be excited for a guy again. I mean I
canna do that. I will never be excited for a
quarterback until they actually play again. Can we now get
Fernando Mendoza and Dante mort And I would.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Go, yeah, great, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Can you write new words to the what you get
when you fall in love? Never gonna get Jets.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Toronto.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Whoever the Jets get, I'm gonna say, yeah, great, great,
all right, great, because no matter what they do, it's
gonna be wrong, and I'll lead to see him. I'm
never gonna get excited before Hey, I think the guy's
gonna cut.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
No, I'm not gonna do anything. I can't, man, I can't.
I can't do that anymore. I can't.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I can't get in on all the excitement and and
and get my hopes up just to see it just
fail miserably again, I'm gonna have zero expectation that way.
Don't get hurt. Yeah, maybe he's good. Maybe Fanana Mendoz
is good.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's a jet. He's gonna stink. Maybe Dante More is good,
but no, he's a jet. He's gonna stink. No, Okay,
Then they get on the field. If they're good, it's
a pleasant surprise.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Then ah, look at that.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Hey, I'm pleasantly surprised by what we're getting right now.
But outside, No, not gonna get excited before they play
it down. Not gonna do it. Did it with Aaron
Rodgers didn't work. Did it with Zach Wilson didn't work.
Sam Darnold didn't work. Go all the way back didn't work,
didn't work, didn't work, didn't work with Justin Fields, not
on whatever happens.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, okay, that's great, that's great. Are you sure you're
going to trust me to hold that trust?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I will be very much. Yeah, other positions I
could be excited about others. But where quarterback has a plate? Yeah, okay,
let me say yeah, let's wait and see.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, let's wait. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I wrote in that's a fun challenge. Here's a few
ways to rewrite I'll never fall in love again, with
a nod to the revolving door of the New York
Jets quarterbacks. Okay, number one, the historical view, number two,
the modern skeptic. Okay, option three, the short lived hope,
which would you like to pursue all of them? Let's

(25:35):
do all of them all right, Let's start with the
all of them. You need all of them, you need
all of them. Uh, they didn't give me the They
kind of wrote it in a I gotta get it
in a lyrical form, okay, because right now it's giving
me a paragraph synopsis.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
So Joe and Sanchez, oh wow, Okay, so we're going
we're going name it to Mark Sanchez, to Justin Fields,
the historic view. My heart is like the Jets quarterback
depth chart, always promising a Broadway Joe but delivering a
Sanchez butt fumble. I've chased too many miracle met wins,

(26:10):
so I'll never fall in love again, not even for
a fitzmagic second.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
See that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Fits magic second.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I'm just kind of going to like, yeah, no, that's
that's pretty hard. The Jets quarter and stuff like that
is what makes me think like AI is really gonna
there we go.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's pretty good. I like that.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I can't believe Ty should actually found that that fast.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm pretty good.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that was really good. Wow, I got fits magic
in there.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
As he said, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I want to be and I feel like working. Okay,
George pick inside, Okay, now you're you feel like it? No,
that's great, Jason. I have a serious question for you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I gotta answer for you. Justin Fields is terrible. So
I took this out of the trash can, right. Oh okay,
if I got them both designed, how much can I get? Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I you know, you know that might actually fetch a
little bit of a picture of who is it's Justin
Fields and Zach Wilson on the same take. Yeah, I
think you get probably about seventy five dollars really bad. Yeah,
seventy five dollars.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's what Monsey said. Seventy five bucks. Yeah, there you go.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's had one hundred a picture. You might you might
get to triple digits. There might be someone desperate enough
to add that, especially if you can get him decided
as a one to one oh, maybe with an inscription
or like a phrase that that made them famous. I
have a picture. I have a picture of Justin Field
signed by Zack Wilson. It's worth exactly seventy five dollars.

(27:40):
Like if Zach Wilson were to sign I hate the Jets.
Oh I think I think you hate Justin Field.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
You can do that on Cameo'll probably for twenty dollars.
I mean, come on, man, that'll live. Eh, that's fine
I'm doing. Did you get booked to do a cameo
on this? No, I'm just gonna do it and say it.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's saying no.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
If I book it for Zack and Zach Wilson, how
much more to get his mom involved?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah? Whoa, Oh, well she takes over the cameo.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I will say, I haven't heard much about what she's
doing on Instagram since he's become a dolphin. I've not
heard much about that. No, I mean that's just standard
forman Yeah, that's true. You don't stand out there right
now elsewhere really quick. We're getting the Captain Kirk experience
in Atlanta. Michael Penix likely out for the season knee

(28:25):
injury yesterday. That's tough man, Marshall a cl terrors. Yeah
they're saying which would be his third I mean this
is look, yeah, obviously, best wishes from Michael Pennock Junior
hopefully comes back and plays. You know, the guy is tough,
But this is you know, the Falcons made such a
mess of their quarterback room eighteen months ago by giving

(28:46):
Kirk Cousins that money and then drafting Michael Pennox Junior.
Nobody would be upset at them for doing one or
the other. But you don't do both. You don't give
a guy one hundred and sixty million dollars and then
draft a guy in the first round. So if you
paid Kirk, he's your guy, right for forty million a
year for the next four years, or don't do that,

(29:06):
get your quarterback in the first round and Michael pennixys
your guy. But no, the Falcons had to do both,
and now they're in a situation where you drafted a
quarterback that has at all kinds of injury issues throughout
his career, right because that's Michael Pennock Junior. It's unfortunate.
And Kirk Cousins, who looked like he was done at
the end of last year when he had to come
in a little bit. This year, I am so embarrassed

(29:27):
for the Falcons because they have taken a team that
was young, exciting with all kinds of weapons, and now
they're an absolute mess and your head coach. Is probably
the only silver lining for Raheem Morris is now, now
are season's over, so I'll probably make it to the
end of the season instead of getting fired before Thanksgiving.
When when when Arthur Blankn say, well, maybe we can
bring in somebody who can spur the offense on, because

(29:49):
clearly it's not you, Raheem Morris. So that's the only
thing is that maybe Morris make to the end because
the season's over. Now season's done, you're starting Kirk Cousins.
I'm so embarrassed with the Falcons because they took a
team that a year year and a half ago, Hey,
we are up and coming. We got the best running
back in the game coming in Bejon Robinson and Drake
Lennon's traffic and Kyle Pitts could be the transformational tight end.
And now they're an absolute mess. Man, you got to

(30:11):
put them on that level of mess with the Jets
and the Raiders, because if either of those teams did
what they did with their quarterbacks, or you would say, yeah,
look at the embarrassment you have here in these teams.
I'm so embarrassment. But it all plays because you wouldn't
eat the money. Like that's the thing, right, It was
purely a financial decision in Hubris. You made the call.
You decided Pennix was your guy. That's fine, just bite

(30:34):
the bullet and be done with it. Now, if he
goes and he wins games, guess what, it doesn't matter
because you don't have your first.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Round pick anyway.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, right, So in the end, if you bought them out,
all you're gonna say is, yeah, the guys that normally
say blank those picks have the number one pick in
the draft, which is really kind of scary. So for
Captain Kirk, like he's he wanted out, like we had
all those reports coming back to camp, Michael Jor a
week ago. Remember we had that big discussion about his

(31:04):
comments that he's got nobody in the locker room that
he can talk to. And they tried, they did perhaps
the worst effort ever tap it down that was not
an AI generated video. Nobody forced him into that position,
and nobody made up any words, right, It wasn't he
said one thing and this story took off.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, no, no, he gave you. You might as well
put a.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Violin behind it for that minute talking about his fiance,
talking about his ex coaches or whatever, and that he
had nobody in the room. So Zach Robinson, Raheem, Morris,
Kirk Cousins, all of them were put on blast. There
was no putting the genie back in the bottle. And
now he's hurt and you have to go back to
Captain Kirk exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.

(31:46):
Time got to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. And someone who's been called the Kirk
Cousins of Fox Sports Radio because she's got one of
those weird rooms in her house where she keeps all
of her sports stuff too.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's Manzie Belanya's.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
And I like to shop at Cohle's.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Stop had all of it, all of it, Kirk Cousins,
He and I won. And the same of course, Week
eleven of the NFL has wrapped up fellas with Monday
Night Football Cowboys Cruising past the Raiders. Thirty three to
sixteen was the final score. Dak Prescott led the way.
He completed twenty five of thirty three passes for two
hundred and sixty eight yards and four touchdowns. George Pickens

(32:27):
had nine catches for one hundred and forty four yards
and a touchdown. Las Vegas running back Ashton Jenty had
six carries for seven yards. As a team, the Raiders
had a total of twenty seven rushing yards. Here is
Gino Smith hold on, I have it on the play calling.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
I don't think there was any issue with the play calling.
The plays are there, guys were open. You know, you
guys watch the film. I know we got a lot
of Monday morning quarterbacks who like to watch film and
take screen shots and see where guys are open. So
I'm sure you guys will see where the guys were open.
For me again, I'll just got to play better. And
I keep saying this, man, if something don't look right
out there blaming it on.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Me, I think they are.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think you're aware. I'm going to raise my head.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes it's your ful, Yes, I mean, look, we've got
some questions about old Chip and all.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, so thank you, Gino. Other NFL news,
the league suspending Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase for one
game for spinning on Steelers offensive back Jalen Ramsey during
yesterday's game. The Packers would not roll out running back
Josh Shacobs for week twelve despite a knee injury. When
it comes to the NBA, Lakers, star Lebron James is

(33:39):
officially listed as questionable to make his season debut Tuesday
against the Jazz. We'll see if it actually happens, but
the Bulls snapped their five game losing streak and hand
the Nuggets their first loss at home today, coming out
on top one thirty to one twenty seven. Josh Getty
twenty one points and fourteen rebounds, nicolea Joka to triple
double in the loss. The seventy six ers came.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Back to beat the Clipper one ten to one oh eight.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Tyrese Maxey led the way with thirty nine points, while
Paul George, in his season debut, had nine points and
seven rebounds. James Harden ended with twenty eight points, but
officially entered the twenty eight thousand career points club. The
Cavaliers topped the Bucks one hundred and eighteen to one
oh six as Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Dropped thirty seven points.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Janna Santetekouopo was ruled out of the second half with
the groin strain something to keep an eye on. He
held on one fifteen to one thirteen at home against
the Knicks, while the Pistons have won ten in a
row after defeating the Pacers one twenty seven to one twelve.
Also victories today for the Thunder, the Timberwolves, and the
Raptors as RJ. Barrett hit the go ahead layup with
eighteen seconds left to edge the Hornets one ten.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
To one oh eight.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
And other NBA news, spur Center Victor One Binyama's gonna
miss a few weeks of action because of a calf strain.
In baseball, it was announced, but it's now announced with numbers.
Josh Naylor's deal with the Seattle Mariners is official. It's
five years, ninety two point five million. And in college football,
Virginia Tech has officially hard former Penn State head coach
James Franklin as their new head football coach, and the

(35:02):
final game in the NHL has wrapped up. The Ducks
defeated the Mammoth three to two in overtime.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of mind.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yes, coming up next.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Pretty sure we saw the end of an era for
one starting quarterback tonight in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Goodbye, Sure it's next, right Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmono. Brian Schottenheimer explaining why he benched CD Lamb
and George Pickens to start the game. We got that
coming up. Well, maybe that's what we said.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
We got that.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yes, that's exactly what Brian Schottenheimer said, except not at all.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You have money on little Jerry Seinfeld. We have that Jerry.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Little Jerry in about ten minutes, goes down in the third.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I love the chicken Jerry.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Look.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Uh, but you heard from Gino Smith a few minutes ago,
not that happy getting questions following the Raiders loss to
the Cowboys tonight.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
And while we've watched the end of.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
The era of Justin Fields, the starting quarterback in the NFL,
now Michael Pennix is out for the season. We're seeing
Kirk Cousins what likely is gonna be his last run
as a starting quarterback in the NFL. I'm pretty sure
we are seeing the end of Gino Smith's run as
a starting quarterback as well. It's a great late career
resurgence for him. It took him almost ten years after

(36:32):
he got let go by the Jets to find the
right situation, which was in Seattle, where he became a
league average, maybe a tiny bit better quarterback. He had
some big games, He won some big games, parlays that
into a big contract with the Raiders. But man, watching
him play tonight, it is over. It's over because he

(36:53):
puts the ball in harm's way.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Every third throw.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's right, he still makes some good throws now and again,
but every third throw is ooh, that was almost picked off.
But you know, the Cowboys defense is terrible, so yeah,
they're not gonna get those interceptions. But he really he
makes throws that that could be picked off easily. Every
third throw. He still misses guys that that are wide open,

(37:17):
but he just puts the ball in harms where he
had the interception tonight. Look, he leads the league in
interceptions and you know he's gonna do it. And for
a team's mental well being going forward where you don't
want to lose everybody in the locker room, yeah, you
gotta make that change. Gino Smith is not it. Obviously,
they know they're going to be in the market for
a quarterback in the offseason, whether it's in the draft
or free agency. But the Jets had to get had

(37:41):
had to get out from under Justin Fields and put
to Rod Tayler out there, because look, the team is
just gonna revolt if he continues to go out there
and throw for one hundred yards a week. Can't have
it you need you can't have the last seven eight
weeks be just an exercise of utility and embarrassment. And
if you're the Raiders, you're kind of thinking the same thing. Wait,
why are we not using astroon gentmore, Why are doing this?
Why are we throwing the football with a guy that

(38:02):
just can't do it, doesn't have the weapons. So yeah,
from a team's going forward perspective of staying in it
and not just completely quitting, and then it becomes an
embarrassing end of the season where where coaches lose jobs. Yeah,
you kind of have to go away from Geno Smith. Now,
maybe it's after this game, maybe it's one more game,
but that's coming before the calendar hits December, and then

(38:25):
Gino's gonna be in the rest of his career where, yeah,
he'll be a high, a backup with upside. If he
has to come in and play a couple of weeks,
that's gonna be the end. But this run for Gino
we're seeing right now. Great run, great end of career,
made a lot of money, awesome, happy for the guy,
but this is kind of the end. No, you got
that extra arc and you look at where they're at
right now. You had that season opening inexplicable win against

(38:46):
New England, considering the run, how does that look right now?
Right twenty to thirteen back then Smith goes for three
sixty two bowers over one hundred. Jenti still only had
thirty eight yards, But we look at that. You get
that win over Tennessee. Okay, everybody beats Tennessee, but otherwise
you're just getting drummed time in time out. Offensively, you're broken,

(39:07):
and we talked about the offensive line. We've taken our
little swings at chip Kelly and and what the offense
might have been could have been. Jacoby Myers basically wore
a trade me sign for two months before they finally
got rid of him. Bowers missed some time, but they
couldn't do anything to fill that void. Trade Tucker a
little bit, but overall you're just at an abysmal space.

(39:31):
And what do you got next? Gino against Miles Garrett.
Really we're gonna let him go out there against that
Cleveland front?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, no chance, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Every Look, it's it's a it's a case of it's
not bad, it's not awful. It's just the end comes
for everybody. And the end seems like it's coming for
Gino Smith right now, especially knowing they have to go forward.
And who's going to say, Okay, Gino, you're gonna come
in as our bridge. He came in as a bridge,
and in Vegas he came there because Pete Carroll had

(40:01):
his familiarity.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
He's not making makes not going back. I have him
starting there next year. You know who's gonna be starting
for the Jets next year? I can't.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'll bold right now. Oh, I'll punch you in the face.
You say that again.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Reporters on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'll tell I'll tell you who's gonna be starting for
the Jets next year. Quarterback Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray will
be the Jets starting quarterback next year. Watch before they're
not gonna be thrilled with going into the draft again
for a quarterback. They're gonna try to get some because
maybe they're not. You're not thrilled a sold on all
the quarterbacks this year in the draft. You want to
wait till twenty twenty seven, which is supposed to be

(40:37):
the next great glass of quarterbacks. Hey, we can go
with some small draft picks and take Kyler Murray's contract
for a year that you already have fifty eight million
dollars in dead cap money with the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You just add what Woody Johnson's statement when that happens?
Oh you do go ahead?

Speaker 7 (40:52):
What?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (40:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Which shuck again?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
That could be for many things. That doesn't need to
just be for.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
That he.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Exit out about a Fresco exit Swolling Dome. Coming up next,
we have some real big Monday night fireworks involving a
guy who's hurt and not playing again this year for
the NFL. Plus, you'll hear what Brian Schottennheimer had to say,
why did he bench Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's next Chason and Mike Fox because they suck
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