July 1, 2022 • 42 mins
With Doug and Jason filling in for Dan, the guys talk about how much of a titanic land-shift the USC/UCLA move to the Big Ten is. Former NBA Player and college head coach Rex Walters joins Doug and Jason to talk about the Kevin Durant drama in Brooklyn, the major moves in the NBA thus far, and the other major headlines playing out in the NBA right now. Plus, Jason and Doug react to the news that the Pelicans are giving Zion Williamson a max deal.
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Sports Radio. Happy Bobby Beni a day, Welcome inside our two,
The Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith,
Doug gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan Nets. As
Bobby Benia liked to say in an exclusive interview he
did with Action Sports, it's bigger than my birthday. And
you know, Doug, you asked me last hour on the show,
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you know, as a Mets fan, I told you how embarrassing.
It's a really difficult optic, even though it was a
sound business decision to defer payments to Bobby Beni, who's
going to be getting one point one million dollars on
this day every year until twenty thirty five. Darren Ravelle
has a story on this with new information that we
have never found out before because he sit down with
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Bobby Beniah and Benia said that the Mets actually tried
to get him to retire, and when they couldn't get
him to retire, they worked on this agreement and Bobby
Benia Day was born. So this is what I mean
when I say the optic from my team on this
is just terrible that they first they've tried to convince
him to retire because look, you don't want to pay you,
we don't think you're very good. Oh and instead, all right,
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we're just gonna give you a million dollars a year
for the next thirty five years. This is what I
mean about the optics surrounding the Mets. Yeah, but I mean, like,
tell me a team that I'm like, I'm an Angel fan.
You think the optics with Albert Poolhole Steel, you know
it was a good one where you know, they they
bought him out of the last year of his disastrous contract,
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and then he goes and plays with the Dodgers and
now he's back playing with the Saint Louis Cardinals. He's
he's still getting paid, I believe to be at the
end of his career to be a representative of the Angels.
Like in the know, he's not an Angel anymore. It's
all these contracts exist and deferred payments. I think it's
only a bigger thing because it's the Mets. I'll beat
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completely honestly, because we have more Mets fans that are broadcasters.
It's it's the same. The Mets have actually been a
good team, They've been in a World Series. There's so
many other organizations that are so much more poorly run.
The problem is that one of the Mets, and you
have a good number of people who are sportscasters, broadcasters
talking that are Mets fans. And then of course they're
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in the same city with the most successful baseball franchise ever,
you know, So you have those two things which make
this mitch make all Mets stories bigger stories than they
actually are. Well, yeah, and it's it's always the group
of teams in every sport that it's easy to point
fingers and go see they're always a laughing stock, right
whether whether and most of them are my teams, because
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it's you know, it's the Knicks, it's the Jets, you know,
but it's the Lions, it's the Raiders, it's the Browns.
It's certain teams that just, yeah, these headlines follow them
and they're always more embarrassing and worse for them than
they are. If this happened to the Patriots, right, if
the Patriots had a free agent signing that didn't work
and you know, Bill Belichick agreed to pay a guy
until twenty thirty, it would be well, hey, no, no,
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this was this was a smart business decision. This is
just a deal that didn't go a boy, what a
great trend setting for the future Bill Belichick has thought of.
It's all in the presentation of it, and some teams
that's how it goes for them. The team like the Mets, it's, ah,
let's jump up and down on them. But other teams
it would be, you know, smart business decision. So it's
just a perspective that the teams have that that really
hurt them in that situation. There's there's there's there's no
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no question about it. Can I ask you something that
this is interesting to me? Okay? Um. It feels like
with this being the first full day of NBA free
agency and Kevin Durant asking me treated yesterday, it feels
like that should be the biggest story. But the usc
UCLA thing has so many different layers to it and
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is so massive in the landscape of all college sports
that I feel like maybe today it's equal footing with
KD or maybe even lesser foot in the kiddie but
a historically bigger story. If you were seating them in
a tournament, which one would you say is bigger today?
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I would say it would be USC UCLA, right because
we had that. We had the big jarring headline yesterday
and it was jarring, but it was only jarring for
a few hours because then and be a free agency
Kevin Durant opts out. And this is a year for
free agency where you know Lebron wasn't moving somewhere. You know,
you still had big names out there. But you know,
when when when the biggest thing going into free agency
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is Jalen Brunson going to the Knicks, it's all right,
Maybe this year is not quite the same. So we
had the blockbuster of Durant, but we didn't have a
resolution and we don't know where he's going, and it's
going to play out. But now the day after people
are starting to see this USC UCLA and they're gonna say, Wow,
this is USC leaving these this is these are the
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rock stars of college football that are leaving because even
though USC hasn't had the footprint the last few years
that they had in the early aughts, I mean, they
were easily the biggest rock star program and still are
and now we're expecting to be it again with Lincoln
Riley and all the recruits that are following him and
and and the fact that these are the teams that
are leaving UH is a much bigger deal because the
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you know, you know, this would be Alabama leaving. You know,
Alabama's leaving the SEC for the Big ten. Why is
Alabama leaving? That's the impact USC has and UCLA being
part of it is great, But you're talking about an
entire market leaving you you're the the ramifications of what
it means for the teams and the travel and are
other teams going to follow? There is a huge domino
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effect for this, and I guarantee you this weekend, like
when when you and I are out and we're hanging
out with our friends and we're talking about it, we'll
talk about Kevin Durant for a few minutes because obviously,
why Katie, where do you think he's gonna go? And
but when it comes boy, this USUCLA thing and that's
more of the conversation. And that's something that you know,
twenty twenty five minutes you can see going by talking
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with your friends about it. Where KD you'll be like
a five minute conversation, then a bigger one when he
signs and you see where he goes and how that
affects the NBA. But right now this thing has so
many tentacles and angles to it that it's just starting
to become and people are just starting to get the
the the intricacies of this and how big a deal
this is. Well, I'm gonna disagree with you in terms
of my weekend. I'm gonna be in a gym coaching.
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So in basketball, I think the KD and where will
he go in the kyrie? And you know, would you
bite the apple and bring in a kyrie? And you know,
should Lebron get rid of Anthony Davis? I think that's
I think that's a better with the guys topic. But
I think the usc UCLA thing is massive because of
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not just that what happens next? How does this affect
recruiting because here's generally kind of the way works. You
mentioned that it's a it's a titan, and that's The
only reason they have value is there are a titan
right that they can it's the Texas. The schools at
rate rate regardless of Notre Dame rates, Texas rates, USC rates,
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Alabama rates, Oklahoma rates, you know Clemson rates like those
are the ones at Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, those
are the ones that people care about. Those are the
ones with value. And forever they've had their value tied
up with a conference. And there's a couple of schools
Texas in USC specifically that are bigger than the rest
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of their conferences combined. And now they flex their muscles
and they've used that strength and now they're in a
conference of of like like sized, like you know, a
backing school if you will. But you know what is it.
It's going to be interesting. You know, the SEC has
recruited Southern California very well. This opens up Southern California
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recruiting to the big ten. It just because now you
can say, hey, you come here, we have you know,
we're a better school, better facilities, completely invested, and we're
going to play in LA I think it now. Does
that mean that the UCLA and USC can they go
and recruit the Midwest and say, you know, not only
do you get to get out of the cold and
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play in the sunshine, but we were going to bring
you home every year to play as well. I think
that does work kind of both ways. And you know,
the recruiting aspect of it is fascinating to me. But
then it's what's next, or then it's what happens is
the Stanford and cal r Like, I think the LA
market is huge in USC's bigger, and I know that
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you know, Stanford students and they don't fill up their
stadium whatever, But that's an incredible school with remarkable alumni,
and it's in the conversation of the best all around
sports programs on Earth in terms of the Olympic sports.
And then you have cal the number one public school
in the country, you know, in terms of ratings of
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public universities and a arrival and in the same system
the U SEE system as UCLA, Like, how does that
all work? Like that that I don't know. That whole
thing is interesting to me. How does it interfect recruiting?
What do the conferences look like? You mentioned the Notre
Dame you and then there's there's Oregon, there's Washington and
then the last part too. It is and this was
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the threat. I don't I think you had left ESPN
when when the first Big twelve, first Big ten expansion happened.
But there's always the threat of Congress saying, hey, that
tax shelter you got for college athletics. This is this
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is a paid enterprise. You're making money, you're spending money
to buy kids like this. You're gonna have to if
that happens. Now the sport changes completely and uh, you know,
and I don't know what happens to so many of
these light department. You know, if your Oregon state or
your Washington state and you get left behind and you're
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not in one of these major conferences and you're not
getting money from your state for your for your sports anymore,
like your whole university changes changes and at some point
this could you know, whether it's privatized college athletics, and
everybody thinks they want that. It's like people thinking they
want college athletes to be employees. You don't want them
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to be employees because employees can be hired, they can
also be fired, you know, Uh, they employees will have
to pay taxes on all benefits. Those things don't occur
right now, they get all the benefits of employees with
really very little of the downside. So I'm interested in
how in all of it because it is a bit
of a house of cards, and I think I think
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this se UCLA thing may have pulled out the bottom.
I don't know what happens to the NCAA, but I
think this is a Titanic land shift that here's the
most impressive thing. There were no rumors of it, right,
no rumors of it. It came out, it was done
that night. That's how deals get done, right, because once
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there's the hemming and the hawing, that's when people go,
wait a second, this school it's not fair. There were
no rumors, no leaks. They got it done, just like
Texas and Oklahoma. And now of a sudden, that Big
ten deal is going up exponentially, and I wonder what's next.
So I'm going to disagree. I think this weekend people
are still talking about ball and what happens with all
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these all this different movement the NBA. But long term,
the ramifications of UCLA and USC being in the Big
ten are massive. Jason Smith Doug Gottlieb here on the
Dan Patrick Show, Well, I'll take you to what's next,
which is which is where things get even more out
of control, because look, college football is about chaos, and
I love the chaos and how things change, and there's
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no real leadership and everybody's kind of just doing what's
best for them. And we talked about this with Petros
Papa Dacas last hour that hey, this is a money
move clearly for USC UCLA, and everybody can cut this
up and and you can be upset about the travel,
but this is about money and what they're making the
model of college football with NIL deals and trans reportal Right,
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now it's unsustainable, right, the NIL is completely going to
get out of control. It's already spiral out of control.
I like to think that maybe some of the powers
that be understood that, Okay, our conferences, this may not
be great for half of our teams because they can
compete and it's going to be difficult and we may
have to do something here for it. And then this
move happens and it's going to be Well if they
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can go and just basically you know, inject cash into
the school and into their program, well why should we
figure anything else out for NIL? Yeah? You know what
door is open, and it's going to get even more
out of control as this gets into orbits. So I
don't know that this did anything for that than just hey,
maybe we were going to slow down a little bit
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and we're going to pull the emergence see break and say, okay,
let's let's let's realize what this model of college football
and how sustainable it is. And I don't believe it
is at all, And then this story happens, yes, and
it's okay, Well, now now that can happen. Now more
nil deals are are gonna go off, and the rich
are going to continue to get richer, and there's going
to be more money coming in, and Notre Dame is
going to realize we have to join a conference because
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of all this money coming in and everything we thought
we were gonna get. There's gonna be no reset, because
that's normally what happens is that when a story gets
this out of control, there's some kind of reset. All right,
well this is going to happen, right, Salaries got out
of control in the NFL for draft picks who had
never played a down before. So Sam Bradford was the
last number one pick who got paid like a guy
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who's hitting free agency at the age of twenty six
needs a superstar. So the NFL pool the emergency break
there and said, Okay, we need to get back to
this a little bit. I don't see there being any
emergency break in college football after this story yesterday. Well,
I think that you're I think you're combining kind of
two different things, and I understand it is kind of
one story in one sport. Um Look, generally, what what
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most of this is is a breakaway from I don't
even want to say that. Everybody says the NCAA, But
the NCAA is all it is is a voting body
of all the schools, right and the and and and
people can say, hey, the College Football Playoff was the breakoff,
and like it wasn't. The BCS wasn't. That wasn't the
nca The bowl system has them in the nca the
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nca has them been involved in postseason. The high major
Division one college football in in our lifetime hasn't been
involved in it. It's always been operated by outside operators
and by the by the power brokers that be. That
that's a that's a fact, that it's not something I'm
making up or that's not breaking information. What's what changed
was they allowed so many other schools to have Division
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one status, not just in football but obviously in basketball.
It's over three hundred and fifty schools now. And then
everyone has the same voting rights, right, So it's like
instead of being like Congress, instead of being like the House,
they're like the Senate, all right, where everybody gets the
same number of votes per state, and they they needed
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to be more like like the House, where you know,
the Texas is the Ohio states of the world they
get They just get more, more votes, more saying how
things are done, because what's what's good for you know
a What's I mean even in the big what's good
for Mountain West schools, it's not good for USC, what's
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good for MAX schools is not good for Ohio States,
et cetera, et cetera. But that's not how it's how
it's seen and how it's perceived by these presidents, athletic
directors and boosters. So I think ultimately there will be
the breakoff, and that's what this is of whatever the
elite are, and everybody's just trying to make sure they
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have a spot, right. They got a chair when the
music stops playing. That's the big thing. I think this
really helps to twelve. You know, if the Big twelve
can smartly add more pieces and somehow like is it
the Big ten? Is it the sec No. I would
tell you that the Big twelve the meat of the
Big twelve, you know, especially if they add to Colorado,
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Utah and Arizona and Arizona State and maybe you know,
maybe you shoot for the stars and get try and
get the whole West or whatever, that would be as
good or better than the meat of the acc. Right,
You're not going to compete with Florida State in terms
of their history when they're right, or Miami and their
history when they're right, or Clemson and what they've been
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able to put together. But the but you know, Oklahoma
State and Utah and Colorado they're they're better and better
and financially supported programs for football, and they resonate more
than Duke than Wake Forest, you know even then kind
of Virginio whatever, which is kind of us you know,
Stanford Light if you will, in football. So this is
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all about the breakaway and who's who's with the big boys,
and who's with the also rands. And I think I
think what's next and who ends up not having a
chair when the music stops is going to be sad,
but it's gonna be very telling for what their future
looks like in the future of the sport looks like.
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coming up and straight ahead, got a special guest stopping
by to breakdown what we have seen so far an
NBA free agency. Where could Kevin Durant wind up? Where
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could Kyrie Irving wind up? We're going to see another
big trade, requests for a big star. Keep it right here,
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Patrick Show, Happy Bobby BENI a Day. Jason Smith, Doug
Gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan Nets. Today is
NBA Free Agency Enters Day two we had big signings,
We had big stories with Kevin Durant telling the Nets
he wants a trade away already the Suns and Heat
have become the preferred destinations for him. Joining us down
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the hot line to help us break it all down.
NBA analysts former NBA player and coach, college head coach
Rex Walters, Rex, what's happening man? How are you? I'm good?
How are you doing? Jason doug what's up? Well? Kevin
Durant wants to be traded? What's your reaction? Surprise? It's
a little bit, especially after Kyrie signed the extension for
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one year saying all that, Obviously Brooklyn is not thinking
about having Kyrie long term. There's some serious damage going
off in terms of that relationship because of all the
stuff that's gone on these past two years. So I
think Kevin looked at it and said, hey, I got
four years on the contract, but this is not what
I signed up for. I think it's in that roster,
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you know, quite honestly, as much shooting this as they have,
they don't have much size, don't have length, They are
not great defensively. And I think the other thing that
people forget is Kevin Durant knows what it's supposed to
look like. He's been in Golden State for four years.
They went to really four finals, they won twice. Like,
he knows what it's supposed to look like. And he's
looking at Brooklyn saying, this is not what it's supposed
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to look like. So I need out is he going
to be able to get his way because this is
not a great situation with the Nets. Right away, the
Nets didn't say we want to keep Kade. We want
to be able to try to figure out away from
the take the floor for us, it's we're gonna make
the best trade possible. Uh. Is he gonna get to
a team that he wants to get to? If if,
in fact, like the Suns and the Heat at the
top of his trade destination list, that'll be tough. I
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think you know, at the end of the day, Brooklyn
has a has a leverage in this in terms of
they have to get something back. And you're talking about
a top one one a one B player in the NBA,
and and and also the contracts have to work. So
that's a that's a big price to pay to give
someone like Kevin Durant up. You've got to make sure
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you're getting qualise things back. I mean, Sean Marks, right now,
is this thing. I respect the fact that they went forward,
they went forward with with KD. Kyrie, James Harden. Then
after that, you know, we talked about um, you know,
Ben Simmons, and now it's all kind of blown up.
So now Sean Marks is like, wellk and now I'm
in like, we got to make something out of this mode.
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They've given up a lot to be in this situation
and now it's all blown up. So there are teams
out there. I mean, I hate to say this, but
you look at the Lakers. They've got two guys that
are very similar in terms of salary, in terms of
Anthony Davis availability. And that's the Lakers, right you got
two guys with two big contract that's ther Kyrie and
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Kevin Durant. Have I think if you if you talk
about Miami, I don't know if they have necessarily assets
that Brooklyn wants, especially with the situation with Bam Auto
Bio and Ben Simmons being on you know, still their
first contracts. So it'll be interesting. And then you've got
to get DeAndre Aid to sign off on the side
trade to go to Brooklyn, and then Deandre's got to
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be asking up, what am I walking myself into going
to Brooklyn. So there's a lot of work to be done.
It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
If you're Lebron James. Yeah, let's just imaginary scenario and
you can either roll with Anthony Davis or roll with
Kevin Durant. What do you do? Oh, it's not even close.
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I'm rolling with Kevin Durant. He's seen firsthand what Kevin
Durant can do. That that whole thing when you talk
about those great you know finals with the Golden State
and Cleveland, it became a non factor. When Kevin Durant
joined the Warriors, it was a no brainer. The other
thing is Kevin Durant, even though he's had some issues
with injuries like this, dude loves to play, loves to work.
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Everything I've ever heard about Durant is he loves to play,
loves to compete, wants to win, wants to have his
own type of legacy in terms of and I don't
think he thinks long term like this that, but he
loves to ball. That's what he's all about. Whereas Anthony
Davis has had his issues with injuries, so yeah, there's
no question and you're talking about switching light size. They're
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both going to play the three four. You get a
guy like Kyrie as well, who knows how to play
with Lebron. That would be really interesting when you talk about,
you know, the Warriors dynasty. Now the Lakers are right
back in the mix in terms of and you can have,
you know, and they're going after size and length in
terms of offensive minded guys with minimum contractor or lower
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salary guys with those three and if they're all available,
that becomes really scary. You know. It's it's interesting you
mentioned how much he loves the ball. Remember the Anthony
Davis story came out that he hadn't touched a basketball
in two months. Like Kevin Rants a guy. Now he's
had injury issues as well, but Kevin Rants a guy
who probably hasn't gone two days without touching the basketball
and not not two months. Rex. That's that's sort of
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it's crazy about well, and when you talk about you know,
this is a guy that, over the course of crews
played over eighty games three times. He's played over seventy
games multiple multiple times, like Anthony Davis that that just
hasn't happened, you know. And so you talk about for Kevin,
he's got to be excited to go to a major
media outlet. He's got a chance to you know, kill
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some some ghosts in terms of the Warriors, you know,
and what they've been able to do is to have
those two teams on the West Coast battling and out
would be phenomenal. But yes, I think that Lebron would know, Hey,
this is someone that I have the utmost amount of respect.
And you've got really the two best players probably over
the last ten years on the same row. And that's
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what the Lakers have always been. They've been about great,
great players, right that are available to play to win championships.
So wreck do you think that that Kyrie finds his
way to the Lakers? And and this is this is
We're going into the season and Kyrie and Lebron are
trying to wreck it in the Western Conference. I think
that that's everything that I've heard and read is saying
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that Kyrie, that's something Kyrie wants to do. I think
the other thing too is, you know, Kyrie's got a
reputation now and I love Kyrie. I love to watch
him play. As a coach, it was hard to coach
against him and the game plan, but he does have
a reputation, right, So Cleveland left it on a sour note,
Boston left it on a sour note, and then Hubbly
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Brooklyn that's been a sour note. So you know, with
a guy like Kadi and Lebron, I think that the
Lakers say, hey, we can we can actually not manage Kyrie,
but they'll have guys that can help hold him accountable
and bring out the greatness that he we all know
he has inside of him. Rex. I'm intrigued by Brad Beale. Okay,
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does he go back to Washington? Does he try and
get to a team, get to a franchise where he
feels like he can legitimately compete? What do you think
Brad bial does well? I think that the new thing
nowadays is number one, gets your money. That's the number
one thing. Get your money, make sure it's guaranteed, and
then hey, okay, now what are you gonna do to
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allow us to be a real contender? Right? And I
think Brad Lebiale is a and again another guy as
I coached in the NBA, and as I get game
plans and watch players are like, this dude is special,
but is he an elite? Elite you're talking about the KDS,
Lebron's those type of guys. He's not that, But he's
a second tier. So you're gonna need another two or
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three guys like that. Is porzingis that type of guy? Question?
Is still really out on that one? And then who
else can they add to that roster right to really
take them to another level in a great Eastern Conference
because they're gonna need great players around him. He needs
at least two other guys that are close to his
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level for them to have a chance to be really
competitive in the Eastern Conference. And if that doesn't happen,
I can see him saying, Hey, this time for me
to move on. You know, he'll do the same thing
that a lot of players are doing. That's the new
thing now. It's like the NBA Transfer portal. They say, Hey,
I'm ready to move on. Here's my list of teams
that I want to go to. Let's make it work.
Rex what we've seen so far, you know, we're into
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day two of free ze. We've seen some players signed.
What's the move you've liked the most so far, And
if you say Jalen Bruns into the Knicks, I'm okay
with that as a Knicks fan. So if that's your answer,
I'm fine with it. But what even like so far? Wow,
it's been kind of crazy, to be honest with you,
that the money that has been out there. When you
think about Yoki, She's gonna make fifty million dollars a
year when it gets that extension, and guess what he
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might be worth it? Like if you're gonna if I'm
gonna throw big money Devin Booker, I'd I'd be interested
to see what happens when Chris Paul leaves Phoenix. Right,
Is Devin Booker going to have the same type of
impact because he's a great, great player. Again, I've been
more intrigued with some of the signings of players. I'm like,
how did he get that type of money? And God
bless him? Like I'm all for players making their money,
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but you look at Oklahoma City and lou Dort is
a tough, physical guard, He's not a great shooter. To
give that guy over eighty million, I was like scratching
my head a little bit. So you know, I'm not
answering your question, but I'm more intrigued by some of
those moves where guys are getting crazy money and they
haven't proven that they could win and really you know,
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be an efficient, effective player in the NBA on both
sides of the ball. Yeah, but Rex, I think part
of it is when we struggle with this is the
scale changes, right, Like lou dort eighty million dollars jumps
out at you. But then you go like, did you
see what the back end of Yokich and Carl Anthony
Towns deal plays? Did you guys see this their final
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year of their Supermax deal they just agreed to yesterday
is sixty sixty two point one million dollars for one season,
And so like, I mean, obviously there's inflation, but with
all the money, like we just have to look what
happens is we look at we're like, I can't believe
that guy's making fifteen now, like yeah, but the best
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players are making sixty, so fifteen kind of fits. It's say,
it's really hard for us to wrap our heads around
when the numbers when the numbers jump like this, But
then you kind of relate it to like did you
ever think you're gonna be paying six dollars a gallon
for gas, right, I mean, every everything has everything has jumped.
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But I saw that that Town's deal and the Yo
Kids deal and Yo kiss An MVPs are great player,
but sixty two million dollars is unbelievable. Yeah, it is.
It's really interesting. And then you got to look at
your roster construction and how are you going to be
able to put players around, players like Cat You know,
Ant's gonna come up pretty soon and he's gonna be
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asking for crazy money. And then you've got you know,
what are they gonna do with Deelo de'angelo Russell. He's
making a good amount of change. And then can you
put the right pieces around in a smaller market like Minnesota?
And I root for Minnesota. My daughter's a video associate
with the Timberwolves, so I root for them. And then
you know they've got new ownership that that's kind of
transitioning in. They've got a new GM that is again
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you're in the Western Conference, and you know every job
is difficult, and Finch has done a great job. Again,
you've got to put together a roster that allows you
to compete at the highest level. And when a guy
is making sixty million, it makes a difficult but this
is an elite three point shooting four or five in
cat and now you want to see the winning go
along with it. So hopefully that happens to I help
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it for my daughter because then she's employed, but also
hope it for that franchise because you've got to put
good pieces, defensive minded eyes that are skilled, that can
shoot the basketball around check, and those guys aren't going
to be coming cheap with the money coming in. A
man who'll be using his daughter's influence to come out
of retirement and play for the Timberwolves this year for
fifteen million a year. Rex Walters. Rex has always buddy
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appreciated man. Thanks so much for making time for us.
Appreciate you guys. Have me have a good one. You
got it. Doug. You you're gonna come out of retirement
and play right for sixty million dollars? No, no no, no,
you're not gonna get sixty You'll get fifteen million. I mean,
come on, you're not gonna get You're not gonna get
Yoka money, but you'll get fifteen million. I would pay
for I would play in that league for five hundred
dollars that way, that would be fine. Just always always
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wanted my name on the back of one of those
one of those jerseys. But no, it's it's really interesting,
like we're you know, I remember what Kevin Garnett was,
the first one hundred million dollars contract, And I just
wonder how many years away we are from the first
one hundred million dollars per year athlete. Right, we're creeping closer.
We got to fifty in football, now we're gonna get
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We're a couple of years away, obviously from sixty in basketball.
How many years away are we from somebody getting one
hundred million dollars for one year of their of their sport.
If I told you twenty thirty, would you take the
over or the under? By twenty thirty, someone's going to
be getting one hundred million dollars a year, either in
the NFL or the NBA. I mean probably not in
Major League Baseball, but you never know, but somebody in
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one of them. By twenty thirty, would you take? Yes,
that would happen, or it might be a little bit
after that. I'm gonna go I'm gonna take the under.
I'll say, before twenty thirty, and this is not this
is salary contract salary, right because you know people go, well,
you know Lebron made over un Tiger Woods been. No, no,
(31:39):
I'm saying, and didn't feel blow through one hundred million
dollars in gambling. Now, I'm kid, it's like forty and
four years. I mean is this I mean like it's
like the live golf money is real money. Tiger turned
that down. But I'm talking, we're just baseball, basketball, football.
I will take the under in twenty thirty in someone
playing for one hundred million dollars a year. Okay, if
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I said, if I said twenty twenty five for someone
making seventy five, oh sent twenty twenty five wow, three years, Wow,
I'll still go under. I'll still go over over on
that one. But very close. I mean, that's that's pushed level.
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I mean because look, I mean incrementally quarterbacks have creeped up, right,
and that that salary, that salary pool is only going
to get bigger. That that's what this comes from. And
then of course you got baseball, Like I don't think
I don't think we're there with baseball. Baseball, they stretch
it out over so long. We're still in the thirties, right,
we haven't reached but for football quarterback and supermax deal
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a Day. Jason Smith and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan
and the Dants. Today is day two of NBA Free
agency continues. We had a big time money conversation with
Rex Walters a few minutes ago, and now it's time
for more money, you know. And that's a thing, Doug.
I've known you know, knowing you for this long that
anytime there's a conversation, as long as it's about a
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lot of money, I know that gets your interest because
there's certain topics that we get into that. But when
it gets to money, it's just I you know, and
part of me is I understand more the ramifications of
certain things when you deal with that money, because I
can hear the excitement in your voice, like when you
talk about things like, hey, here's Nicola yok it's gonna
make sixty two million dollars in the final year of
his deal. Well, I just I mean the number jumps
(34:33):
out at you, right, doesn't it. I mean you just
sit there and go like, wow, I had I didn't.
I didn't do that. I was doing the math. That's
a lot of how has it broken down? And then
when I saw a six and then a two in
the final year of the deal, that was that was different.
That was that was different. Okay, So what's the next
money store you wanted? You got for me? So according
to Shams who's got this a few minutes ago. Zion
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Williamson will be signing a five year rookie Max contract
extension worth up to two hundred and thirty one million dollars.
This from Sham's on the Athletic. The commitment's going to
take Williamson's new deal through the twenty twenty seven twenty
eighth season. Now, at first you look at this and go, wow,
he's gonna resign with New Orleans because I thought that
for the longest time he's going to be the guy.
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He's going to be the next Shack. He's gonna say, yeah,
you can give me a lot of money, but I
need to get someplace else other than New Orleans. But
when you hear Rex Walters say, hey, guys, say I'm
gonna get paid first and then figure everything out, I
still don't know that Zion Williamson's career is going to
end up being something that's long term in New Orleans.
He has said I want to sign this deal as
soon as possible. He's had injury issues, so now he's
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got paid. I don't know that this takes him out
of Hey, yeah, I got paid, but now I'm eventually
going to find my way out of New Orleans and
get someplace else. Yeah, I think that's more for guys
that are further along. Take a guess how many games
Zion Williamson has played in the NBA. It's at fifty.
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Has he played fifty games? Over that? Over that? So
let's see eighty five games. Eighty five games exactly, that's
how many. Wow, really, I gotta right in the second time.
That's awesome. I didn't even look that up. I swear
to god, I didn't looking up on the computer. That
was really good. That's really good of you. Um Man,
What else am I thinking here, James? That's not That's
(36:23):
not creepy at all. No really, no, no no, no, you're thinking.
You're thinking about a sandwich right now where you are,
You're thinking about a sandwich. I am thinking about a sandwich.
Tell me mustard or mail. Anyway, He's played eighty five games,
so this is one of those. I mean, I don't
first I actually like what New Orleans has. They have
(36:44):
a nice they got a good they got a good group,
and then you add Zion to it and it that
could be one of those sneaky Holy Cow or the Pelicans.
They're really really good. I think there's a little bit
of a leap of faith here from New Orleans, and
I would guess that Zion gets that, like, look, we're
(37:05):
gonna give you a max deal, but you got to
keep yourself in better shape and condition. We've never they've
done a really good job of never calling him out
on this physical condition, but it's been bad, So I
do think, And there was a you're right. There was
a lot of talk of he's disconnected with the team,
he's not working out with the team. Suddenly they start
talking about two hundred million dollars and he's all about
(37:25):
the Pelicans. But I'm gonna buy that this one. He
plays at least all but the last year. You know,
you get to the last year if you want to
steer your way out of it. Maybe, But he's only
played he's essentially played one NBA season and he's going
into his fourth year. So I and he hasn't stayed health,
didn't stay healthy at Duke, didn't stay healthy in Summer league,
(37:46):
hadn't stayed healthy at all in the NBA, and they
missed all of this season. Next year is the years
where he needs to deliver on the goods. And I
think this is a leap of faith contract. There's a
difference in the NFL and the NBA. Right in the
NFL get paid for what you're gonna do, and the NBA,
you get paid for what they hope you're gonna do.
I look at at Zion, and that was always the
(38:08):
only concern I had. You know, his weight, and he
had gotten hurt every single year in his career, going
back to high school. You know, missing the end of
high school. He's missing a lot of time with Duke,
missing time here. If he goes and and look, the
NBA is very fickle. If he just proves that for
the majority of this year he stays healthy, then other teams,
(38:28):
I think you're gonna Okay, Now we can be into
we can believe in him, because we'll believe in him
sooner rather than later, and Zion will accelerate that process. Now,
if he still stays hurt and he's playing thirty five
games a year because he can't stay in the lineup, no,
I agree. But if he just has shows this year
he can do it. No, I think that you can.
You can look at a big power play the year
after for Zion saying okay, I showed you how good
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I can be. I'm the next hood ornament of the
league because he has an IT factor unlike anybody else
in the league, you know. I mean the thing about
Zion is, as we talked about the little bit of
time that he's played, the interest level in him is
kind of very Shaquille O'Neil asked that we want to
see him. They're gonna put his games on national TV
as much as they can. He will gain that power
pretty quickly. I think he might be surprised how fast
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Zion could be able to call the shots as long
as this year he shows, Hey, I'm healthy and I'm
dominant like I was in the glimpses I've shown so far. Yeah,
I mean, I still think at the end of the day,
you know, organizations, you know, one, it all comes down
to the type of person you are and where you
are your life, you know, and and how organizations are structured.
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I think there's a there is a certain group of
organizations that do get pushed around and players are able
to dictate and determine where they're gonna go and what
they're gonna do, and there's some that aren't, you know,
like we don't hear all this noise from every player,
So I'm not into these Zion's going to control and
get himself out of New Orleans like they did him
(39:57):
a favorite game of Supermax because they think that's what
he can be. He's gotta stay healthy and he's got
to be able to shoot the basketball. But he's so explosive,
and you know, he's that perfect small ball four five.
You know, he's really only about six foot five, but
he can guard, you know, and he can't guard centers
traditional centers per se, but they can't guard him either,
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and he is an absolute freak. So I hope he's
healthy because I think that Pelicans team is a really
good one and a fun one to watch. If I
now speaking over run, we did over under for one
hundred million dollars a year players in the Major League
Baseball NFL NBA a few minutes ago. If I put
the over under for Zion's games played this year at
fifty five over over for Zion fifty five, see, I
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would still take the under because I don't know. I
don't know how how much he can stand the riggers
of playing a regular schedule once it gets past twenty
twenty five, thirty games. I mean, I don't you know,
if you play a lot in au and but you
know this is different now and you're talking about the
pounding of the NBA. I would still take the if
he played forty games this year, I would say that
that's probably what I would expect from him. If he
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plays in the in the somewhere in the low forties,
all right, that's kind of what I would get from
zion Um. I don't know, he played sixty one games
two years ago, so I think he'll I think he'll
hit the over there. Look, it's the big thing is
what is the weight that he's going to play at.
You know, if he's going to show up in the
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high twos and the three bills like you're you're going
to be right something. A body is not supposed to
have that much weight and that much power, that much explosiveness.
It's just it. But I truly believe that you miss
a year and you sit there and watch, and you
go through the fluctuations and wait, and at some point
in time, the light switch goes on. And I'm hoping
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that with all that money, the light switch goes on.
Don't know if it will, but it feels like again
and I'm based upon posts on social media, feels like
it has. But that that's what's going to happen. He's
got to spend Let me look at happen for Joel
Embid this year right, spend time dedicated his body and
what he eat it and when he ate and look
at out what kind of year he had. Twenty twenty two.
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Sports Radio. Happy Bobby Beni a day, Welcome inside our two,
The Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith,
Doug gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan Nets. As
Bobby Benia liked to say in an exclusive interview he
did with Action Sports, it's bigger than my birthday. And
you know, Doug, you asked me last hour on the show,
(00:43):
you know, as a Mets fan, I told you how embarrassing.
It's a really difficult optic, even though it was a
sound business decision to defer payments to Bobby Beni, who's
going to be getting one point one million dollars on
this day every year until twenty thirty five. Darren Ravelle
has a story on this with new information that we
have never found out before because he sit down with
(01:04):
Bobby Beniah and Benia said that the Mets actually tried
to get him to retire, and when they couldn't get
him to retire, they worked on this agreement and Bobby
Benia Day was born. So this is what I mean
when I say the optic from my team on this
is just terrible that they first they've tried to convince
him to retire because look, you don't want to pay you,
we don't think you're very good. Oh and instead, all right,
(01:25):
we're just gonna give you a million dollars a year
for the next thirty five years. This is what I
mean about the optics surrounding the Mets. Yeah, but I mean, like,
tell me a team that I'm like, I'm an Angel fan.
You think the optics with Albert Poolhole Steel, you know
it was a good one where you know, they they
bought him out of the last year of his disastrous contract,
(01:46):
and then he goes and plays with the Dodgers and
now he's back playing with the Saint Louis Cardinals. He's
he's still getting paid, I believe to be at the
end of his career to be a representative of the Angels.
Like in the know, he's not an Angel anymore. It's
all these contracts exist and deferred payments. I think it's
only a bigger thing because it's the Mets. I'll beat
(02:07):
completely honestly, because we have more Mets fans that are broadcasters.
It's it's the same. The Mets have actually been a
good team, They've been in a World Series. There's so
many other organizations that are so much more poorly run.
The problem is that one of the Mets, and you
have a good number of people who are sportscasters, broadcasters
talking that are Mets fans. And then of course they're
(02:28):
in the same city with the most successful baseball franchise ever,
you know, So you have those two things which make
this mitch make all Mets stories bigger stories than they
actually are. Well, yeah, and it's it's always the group
of teams in every sport that it's easy to point
fingers and go see they're always a laughing stock, right
whether whether and most of them are my teams, because
(02:48):
it's you know, it's the Knicks, it's the Jets, you know,
but it's the Lions, it's the Raiders, it's the Browns.
It's certain teams that just, yeah, these headlines follow them
and they're always more embarrassing and worse for them than
they are. If this happened to the Patriots, right, if
the Patriots had a free agent signing that didn't work
and you know, Bill Belichick agreed to pay a guy
until twenty thirty, it would be well, hey, no, no,
(03:10):
this was this was a smart business decision. This is
just a deal that didn't go a boy, what a
great trend setting for the future Bill Belichick has thought of.
It's all in the presentation of it, and some teams
that's how it goes for them. The team like the Mets, it's, ah,
let's jump up and down on them. But other teams
it would be, you know, smart business decision. So it's
just a perspective that the teams have that that really
hurt them in that situation. There's there's there's there's no
(03:33):
no question about it. Can I ask you something that
this is interesting to me? Okay? Um. It feels like
with this being the first full day of NBA free
agency and Kevin Durant asking me treated yesterday, it feels
like that should be the biggest story. But the usc
UCLA thing has so many different layers to it and
(03:58):
is so massive in the landscape of all college sports
that I feel like maybe today it's equal footing with
KD or maybe even lesser foot in the kiddie but
a historically bigger story. If you were seating them in
a tournament, which one would you say is bigger today?
(04:20):
I would say it would be USC UCLA, right because
we had that. We had the big jarring headline yesterday
and it was jarring, but it was only jarring for
a few hours because then and be a free agency
Kevin Durant opts out. And this is a year for
free agency where you know Lebron wasn't moving somewhere. You know,
you still had big names out there. But you know,
when when when the biggest thing going into free agency
(04:41):
is Jalen Brunson going to the Knicks, it's all right,
Maybe this year is not quite the same. So we
had the blockbuster of Durant, but we didn't have a
resolution and we don't know where he's going, and it's
going to play out. But now the day after people
are starting to see this USC UCLA and they're gonna say, Wow,
this is USC leaving these this is these are the
(05:03):
rock stars of college football that are leaving because even
though USC hasn't had the footprint the last few years
that they had in the early aughts, I mean, they
were easily the biggest rock star program and still are
and now we're expecting to be it again with Lincoln
Riley and all the recruits that are following him and
and and the fact that these are the teams that
are leaving UH is a much bigger deal because the
(05:26):
you know, you know, this would be Alabama leaving. You know,
Alabama's leaving the SEC for the Big ten. Why is
Alabama leaving? That's the impact USC has and UCLA being
part of it is great, But you're talking about an
entire market leaving you you're the the ramifications of what
it means for the teams and the travel and are
other teams going to follow? There is a huge domino
(05:49):
effect for this, and I guarantee you this weekend, like
when when you and I are out and we're hanging
out with our friends and we're talking about it, we'll
talk about Kevin Durant for a few minutes because obviously,
why Katie, where do you think he's gonna go? And
but when it comes boy, this USUCLA thing and that's
more of the conversation. And that's something that you know,
twenty twenty five minutes you can see going by talking
(06:09):
with your friends about it. Where KD you'll be like
a five minute conversation, then a bigger one when he
signs and you see where he goes and how that
affects the NBA. But right now this thing has so
many tentacles and angles to it that it's just starting
to become and people are just starting to get the
the the intricacies of this and how big a deal
this is. Well, I'm gonna disagree with you in terms
of my weekend. I'm gonna be in a gym coaching.
(06:33):
So in basketball, I think the KD and where will
he go in the kyrie? And you know, would you
bite the apple and bring in a kyrie? And you know,
should Lebron get rid of Anthony Davis? I think that's
I think that's a better with the guys topic. But
I think the usc UCLA thing is massive because of
(06:54):
not just that what happens next? How does this affect
recruiting because here's generally kind of the way works. You
mentioned that it's a it's a titan, and that's The
only reason they have value is there are a titan
right that they can it's the Texas. The schools at
rate rate regardless of Notre Dame rates, Texas rates, USC rates,
(07:15):
Alabama rates, Oklahoma rates, you know Clemson rates like those
are the ones at Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, those
are the ones that people care about. Those are the
ones with value. And forever they've had their value tied
up with a conference. And there's a couple of schools
Texas in USC specifically that are bigger than the rest
(07:36):
of their conferences combined. And now they flex their muscles
and they've used that strength and now they're in a
conference of of like like sized, like you know, a
backing school if you will. But you know what is it.
It's going to be interesting. You know, the SEC has
recruited Southern California very well. This opens up Southern California
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recruiting to the big ten. It just because now you
can say, hey, you come here, we have you know,
we're a better school, better facilities, completely invested, and we're
going to play in LA I think it now. Does
that mean that the UCLA and USC can they go
and recruit the Midwest and say, you know, not only
do you get to get out of the cold and
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play in the sunshine, but we were going to bring
you home every year to play as well. I think
that does work kind of both ways. And you know,
the recruiting aspect of it is fascinating to me. But
then it's what's next, or then it's what happens is
the Stanford and cal r Like, I think the LA
market is huge in USC's bigger, and I know that
(08:40):
you know, Stanford students and they don't fill up their
stadium whatever, But that's an incredible school with remarkable alumni,
and it's in the conversation of the best all around
sports programs on Earth in terms of the Olympic sports.
And then you have cal the number one public school
in the country, you know, in terms of ratings of
(09:01):
public universities and a arrival and in the same system
the U SEE system as UCLA, Like, how does that
all work? Like that that I don't know. That whole
thing is interesting to me. How does it interfect recruiting?
What do the conferences look like? You mentioned the Notre
Dame you and then there's there's Oregon, there's Washington and
then the last part too. It is and this was
(09:22):
the threat. I don't I think you had left ESPN
when when the first Big twelve, first Big ten expansion happened.
But there's always the threat of Congress saying, hey, that
tax shelter you got for college athletics. This is this
(09:43):
is a paid enterprise. You're making money, you're spending money
to buy kids like this. You're gonna have to if
that happens. Now the sport changes completely and uh, you know,
and I don't know what happens to so many of
these light department. You know, if your Oregon state or
your Washington state and you get left behind and you're
(10:04):
not in one of these major conferences and you're not
getting money from your state for your for your sports anymore,
like your whole university changes changes and at some point
this could you know, whether it's privatized college athletics, and
everybody thinks they want that. It's like people thinking they
want college athletes to be employees. You don't want them
(10:26):
to be employees because employees can be hired, they can
also be fired, you know, Uh, they employees will have
to pay taxes on all benefits. Those things don't occur
right now, they get all the benefits of employees with
really very little of the downside. So I'm interested in
how in all of it because it is a bit
of a house of cards, and I think I think
(10:48):
this se UCLA thing may have pulled out the bottom.
I don't know what happens to the NCAA, but I
think this is a Titanic land shift that here's the
most impressive thing. There were no rumors of it, right,
no rumors of it. It came out, it was done
that night. That's how deals get done, right, because once
(11:09):
there's the hemming and the hawing, that's when people go,
wait a second, this school it's not fair. There were
no rumors, no leaks. They got it done, just like
Texas and Oklahoma. And now of a sudden, that Big
ten deal is going up exponentially, and I wonder what's next.
So I'm going to disagree. I think this weekend people
are still talking about ball and what happens with all
(11:30):
these all this different movement the NBA. But long term,
the ramifications of UCLA and USC being in the Big
ten are massive. Jason Smith Doug Gottlieb here on the
Dan Patrick Show, Well, I'll take you to what's next,
which is which is where things get even more out
of control, because look, college football is about chaos, and
I love the chaos and how things change, and there's
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no real leadership and everybody's kind of just doing what's
best for them. And we talked about this with Petros
Papa Dacas last hour that hey, this is a money
move clearly for USC UCLA, and everybody can cut this
up and and you can be upset about the travel,
but this is about money and what they're making the
model of college football with NIL deals and trans reportal Right,
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now it's unsustainable, right, the NIL is completely going to
get out of control. It's already spiral out of control.
I like to think that maybe some of the powers
that be understood that, Okay, our conferences, this may not
be great for half of our teams because they can
compete and it's going to be difficult and we may
have to do something here for it. And then this
move happens and it's going to be Well if they
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can go and just basically you know, inject cash into
the school and into their program, well why should we
figure anything else out for NIL? Yeah? You know what
door is open, and it's going to get even more
out of control as this gets into orbits. So I
don't know that this did anything for that than just hey,
maybe we were going to slow down a little bit
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and we're going to pull the emergence see break and say, okay,
let's let's let's realize what this model of college football
and how sustainable it is. And I don't believe it
is at all, And then this story happens, yes, and
it's okay, Well, now now that can happen. Now more
nil deals are are gonna go off, and the rich
are going to continue to get richer, and there's going
to be more money coming in, and Notre Dame is
going to realize we have to join a conference because
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of all this money coming in and everything we thought
we were gonna get. There's gonna be no reset, because
that's normally what happens is that when a story gets
this out of control, there's some kind of reset. All right,
well this is going to happen, right, Salaries got out
of control in the NFL for draft picks who had
never played a down before. So Sam Bradford was the
last number one pick who got paid like a guy
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who's hitting free agency at the age of twenty six
needs a superstar. So the NFL pool the emergency break
there and said, Okay, we need to get back to
this a little bit. I don't see there being any
emergency break in college football after this story yesterday. Well,
I think that you're I think you're combining kind of
two different things, and I understand it is kind of
one story in one sport. Um Look, generally, what what
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most of this is is a breakaway from I don't
even want to say that. Everybody says the NCAA, But
the NCAA is all it is is a voting body
of all the schools, right and the and and and
people can say, hey, the College Football Playoff was the breakoff,
and like it wasn't. The BCS wasn't. That wasn't the
nca The bowl system has them in the nca the
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nca has them been involved in postseason. The high major
Division one college football in in our lifetime hasn't been
involved in it. It's always been operated by outside operators
and by the by the power brokers that be. That
that's a that's a fact, that it's not something I'm
making up or that's not breaking information. What's what changed
was they allowed so many other schools to have Division
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one status, not just in football but obviously in basketball.
It's over three hundred and fifty schools now. And then
everyone has the same voting rights, right, So it's like
instead of being like Congress, instead of being like the House,
they're like the Senate, all right, where everybody gets the
same number of votes per state, and they they needed
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to be more like like the House, where you know,
the Texas is the Ohio states of the world they
get They just get more, more votes, more saying how
things are done, because what's what's good for you know
a What's I mean even in the big what's good
for Mountain West schools, it's not good for USC, what's
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good for MAX schools is not good for Ohio States,
et cetera, et cetera. But that's not how it's how
it's seen and how it's perceived by these presidents, athletic
directors and boosters. So I think ultimately there will be
the breakoff, and that's what this is of whatever the
elite are, and everybody's just trying to make sure they
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have a spot, right. They got a chair when the
music stops playing. That's the big thing. I think this
really helps to twelve. You know, if the Big twelve
can smartly add more pieces and somehow like is it
the Big ten? Is it the sec No. I would
tell you that the Big twelve the meat of the
Big twelve, you know, especially if they add to Colorado,
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Utah and Arizona and Arizona State and maybe you know,
maybe you shoot for the stars and get try and
get the whole West or whatever, that would be as
good or better than the meat of the acc. Right,
You're not going to compete with Florida State in terms
of their history when they're right, or Miami and their
history when they're right, or Clemson and what they've been
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able to put together. But the but you know, Oklahoma
State and Utah and Colorado they're they're better and better
and financially supported programs for football, and they resonate more
than Duke than Wake Forest, you know even then kind
of Virginio whatever, which is kind of us you know,
Stanford Light if you will, in football. So this is
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all about the breakaway and who's who's with the big boys,
and who's with the also rands. And I think I
think what's next and who ends up not having a
chair when the music stops is going to be sad,
but it's gonna be very telling for what their future
looks like in the future of the sport looks like.
Jason Smith and Doug gottlie Been for Dan Patrick. Today
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Patrick Show, Happy Bobby BENI a Day. Jason Smith, Doug
Gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan Nets. Today is
NBA Free Agency Enters Day two we had big signings,
We had big stories with Kevin Durant telling the Nets
he wants a trade away already the Suns and Heat
have become the preferred destinations for him. Joining us down
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the hot line to help us break it all down.
NBA analysts former NBA player and coach, college head coach
Rex Walters, Rex, what's happening man? How are you? I'm good?
How are you doing? Jason doug what's up? Well? Kevin
Durant wants to be traded? What's your reaction? Surprise? It's
a little bit, especially after Kyrie signed the extension for
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one year saying all that, Obviously Brooklyn is not thinking
about having Kyrie long term. There's some serious damage going
off in terms of that relationship because of all the
stuff that's gone on these past two years. So I
think Kevin looked at it and said, hey, I got
four years on the contract, but this is not what
I signed up for. I think it's in that roster,
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you know, quite honestly, as much shooting this as they have,
they don't have much size, don't have length, They are
not great defensively. And I think the other thing that
people forget is Kevin Durant knows what it's supposed to
look like. He's been in Golden State for four years.
They went to really four finals, they won twice. Like,
he knows what it's supposed to look like. And he's
looking at Brooklyn saying, this is not what it's supposed
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to look like. So I need out is he going
to be able to get his way because this is
not a great situation with the Nets. Right away, the
Nets didn't say we want to keep Kade. We want
to be able to try to figure out away from
the take the floor for us, it's we're gonna make
the best trade possible. Uh. Is he gonna get to
a team that he wants to get to? If if,
in fact, like the Suns and the Heat at the
top of his trade destination list, that'll be tough. I
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think you know, at the end of the day, Brooklyn
has a has a leverage in this in terms of
they have to get something back. And you're talking about
a top one one a one B player in the NBA,
and and and also the contracts have to work. So
that's a that's a big price to pay to give
someone like Kevin Durant up. You've got to make sure
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you're getting qualise things back. I mean, Sean Marks, right now,
is this thing. I respect the fact that they went forward,
they went forward with with KD. Kyrie, James Harden. Then
after that, you know, we talked about um, you know,
Ben Simmons, and now it's all kind of blown up.
So now Sean Marks is like, wellk and now I'm
in like, we got to make something out of this mode.
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They've given up a lot to be in this situation
and now it's all blown up. So there are teams
out there. I mean, I hate to say this, but
you look at the Lakers. They've got two guys that
are very similar in terms of salary, in terms of
Anthony Davis availability. And that's the Lakers, right you got
two guys with two big contract that's ther Kyrie and
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Kevin Durant. Have I think if you if you talk
about Miami, I don't know if they have necessarily assets
that Brooklyn wants, especially with the situation with Bam Auto
Bio and Ben Simmons being on you know, still their
first contracts. So it'll be interesting. And then you've got
to get DeAndre Aid to sign off on the side
trade to go to Brooklyn, and then Deandre's got to
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be asking up, what am I walking myself into going
to Brooklyn. So there's a lot of work to be done.
It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
If you're Lebron James. Yeah, let's just imaginary scenario and
you can either roll with Anthony Davis or roll with
Kevin Durant. What do you do? Oh, it's not even close.
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I'm rolling with Kevin Durant. He's seen firsthand what Kevin
Durant can do. That that whole thing when you talk
about those great you know finals with the Golden State
and Cleveland, it became a non factor. When Kevin Durant
joined the Warriors, it was a no brainer. The other
thing is Kevin Durant, even though he's had some issues
with injuries like this, dude loves to play, loves to work.
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Everything I've ever heard about Durant is he loves to play,
loves to compete, wants to win, wants to have his
own type of legacy in terms of and I don't
think he thinks long term like this that, but he
loves to ball. That's what he's all about. Whereas Anthony
Davis has had his issues with injuries, so yeah, there's
no question and you're talking about switching light size. They're
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both going to play the three four. You get a
guy like Kyrie as well, who knows how to play
with Lebron. That would be really interesting when you talk about,
you know, the Warriors dynasty. Now the Lakers are right
back in the mix in terms of and you can have,
you know, and they're going after size and length in
terms of offensive minded guys with minimum contractor or lower
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salary guys with those three and if they're all available,
that becomes really scary. You know. It's it's interesting you
mentioned how much he loves the ball. Remember the Anthony
Davis story came out that he hadn't touched a basketball
in two months. Like Kevin Rants a guy. Now he's
had injury issues as well, but Kevin Rants a guy
who probably hasn't gone two days without touching the basketball
and not not two months. Rex. That's that's sort of
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it's crazy about well, and when you talk about you know,
this is a guy that, over the course of crews
played over eighty games three times. He's played over seventy
games multiple multiple times, like Anthony Davis that that just
hasn't happened, you know. And so you talk about for Kevin,
he's got to be excited to go to a major
media outlet. He's got a chance to you know, kill
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some some ghosts in terms of the Warriors, you know,
and what they've been able to do is to have
those two teams on the West Coast battling and out
would be phenomenal. But yes, I think that Lebron would know, Hey,
this is someone that I have the utmost amount of respect.
And you've got really the two best players probably over
the last ten years on the same row. And that's
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what the Lakers have always been. They've been about great,
great players, right that are available to play to win championships.
So wreck do you think that that Kyrie finds his
way to the Lakers? And and this is this is
We're going into the season and Kyrie and Lebron are
trying to wreck it in the Western Conference. I think
that that's everything that I've heard and read is saying
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that Kyrie, that's something Kyrie wants to do. I think
the other thing too is, you know, Kyrie's got a
reputation now and I love Kyrie. I love to watch
him play. As a coach, it was hard to coach
against him and the game plan, but he does have
a reputation, right, So Cleveland left it on a sour note,
Boston left it on a sour note, and then Hubbly
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Brooklyn that's been a sour note. So you know, with
a guy like Kadi and Lebron, I think that the
Lakers say, hey, we can we can actually not manage Kyrie,
but they'll have guys that can help hold him accountable
and bring out the greatness that he we all know
he has inside of him. Rex. I'm intrigued by Brad Beale. Okay,
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does he go back to Washington? Does he try and
get to a team, get to a franchise where he
feels like he can legitimately compete? What do you think
Brad bial does well? I think that the new thing
nowadays is number one, gets your money. That's the number
one thing. Get your money, make sure it's guaranteed, and
then hey, okay, now what are you gonna do to
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allow us to be a real contender? Right? And I
think Brad Lebiale is a and again another guy as
I coached in the NBA, and as I get game
plans and watch players are like, this dude is special,
but is he an elite? Elite you're talking about the KDS,
Lebron's those type of guys. He's not that, But he's
a second tier. So you're gonna need another two or
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three guys like that. Is porzingis that type of guy? Question?
Is still really out on that one? And then who
else can they add to that roster right to really
take them to another level in a great Eastern Conference
because they're gonna need great players around him. He needs
at least two other guys that are close to his
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level for them to have a chance to be really
competitive in the Eastern Conference. And if that doesn't happen,
I can see him saying, Hey, this time for me
to move on. You know, he'll do the same thing
that a lot of players are doing. That's the new
thing now. It's like the NBA Transfer portal. They say, Hey,
I'm ready to move on. Here's my list of teams
that I want to go to. Let's make it work.
Rex what we've seen so far, you know, we're into
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day two of free ze. We've seen some players signed.
What's the move you've liked the most so far, And
if you say Jalen Bruns into the Knicks, I'm okay
with that as a Knicks fan. So if that's your answer,
I'm fine with it. But what even like so far? Wow,
it's been kind of crazy, to be honest with you,
that the money that has been out there. When you
think about Yoki, She's gonna make fifty million dollars a
year when it gets that extension, and guess what he
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might be worth it? Like if you're gonna if I'm
gonna throw big money Devin Booker, I'd I'd be interested
to see what happens when Chris Paul leaves Phoenix. Right,
Is Devin Booker going to have the same type of
impact because he's a great, great player. Again, I've been
more intrigued with some of the signings of players. I'm like,
how did he get that type of money? And God
bless him? Like I'm all for players making their money,
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but you look at Oklahoma City and lou Dort is
a tough, physical guard, He's not a great shooter. To
give that guy over eighty million, I was like scratching
my head a little bit. So you know, I'm not
answering your question, but I'm more intrigued by some of
those moves where guys are getting crazy money and they
haven't proven that they could win and really you know,
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be an efficient, effective player in the NBA on both
sides of the ball. Yeah, but Rex, I think part
of it is when we struggle with this is the
scale changes, right, Like lou dort eighty million dollars jumps
out at you. But then you go like, did you
see what the back end of Yokich and Carl Anthony
Towns deal plays? Did you guys see this their final
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year of their Supermax deal they just agreed to yesterday
is sixty sixty two point one million dollars for one season,
And so like, I mean, obviously there's inflation, but with
all the money, like we just have to look what
happens is we look at we're like, I can't believe
that guy's making fifteen now, like yeah, but the best
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players are making sixty, so fifteen kind of fits. It's say,
it's really hard for us to wrap our heads around
when the numbers when the numbers jump like this, But
then you kind of relate it to like did you
ever think you're gonna be paying six dollars a gallon
for gas, right, I mean, every everything has everything has jumped.
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But I saw that that Town's deal and the Yo
Kids deal and Yo kiss An MVPs are great player,
but sixty two million dollars is unbelievable. Yeah, it is.
It's really interesting. And then you got to look at
your roster construction and how are you going to be
able to put players around, players like Cat You know,
Ant's gonna come up pretty soon and he's gonna be
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asking for crazy money. And then you've got you know,
what are they gonna do with Deelo de'angelo Russell. He's
making a good amount of change. And then can you
put the right pieces around in a smaller market like Minnesota?
And I root for Minnesota. My daughter's a video associate
with the Timberwolves, so I root for them. And then
you know they've got new ownership that that's kind of
transitioning in. They've got a new GM that is again
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you're in the Western Conference, and you know every job
is difficult, and Finch has done a great job. Again,
you've got to put together a roster that allows you
to compete at the highest level. And when a guy
is making sixty million, it makes a difficult but this
is an elite three point shooting four or five in
cat and now you want to see the winning go
along with it. So hopefully that happens to I help
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it for my daughter because then she's employed, but also
hope it for that franchise because you've got to put
good pieces, defensive minded eyes that are skilled, that can
shoot the basketball around check, and those guys aren't going
to be coming cheap with the money coming in. A
man who'll be using his daughter's influence to come out
of retirement and play for the Timberwolves this year for
fifteen million a year. Rex Walters. Rex has always buddy
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appreciated man. Thanks so much for making time for us.
Appreciate you guys. Have me have a good one. You
got it. Doug. You you're gonna come out of retirement
and play right for sixty million dollars? No, no no, no,
you're not gonna get sixty You'll get fifteen million. I mean,
come on, you're not gonna get You're not gonna get
Yoka money, but you'll get fifteen million. I would pay
for I would play in that league for five hundred
dollars that way, that would be fine. Just always always
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wanted my name on the back of one of those
one of those jerseys. But no, it's it's really interesting,
like we're you know, I remember what Kevin Garnett was,
the first one hundred million dollars contract, And I just
wonder how many years away we are from the first
one hundred million dollars per year athlete. Right, we're creeping closer.
We got to fifty in football, now we're gonna get
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We're a couple of years away, obviously from sixty in basketball.
How many years away are we from somebody getting one
hundred million dollars for one year of their of their sport.
If I told you twenty thirty, would you take the
over or the under? By twenty thirty, someone's going to
be getting one hundred million dollars a year, either in
the NFL or the NBA. I mean probably not in
Major League Baseball, but you never know, but somebody in
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one of them. By twenty thirty, would you take? Yes,
that would happen, or it might be a little bit
after that. I'm gonna go I'm gonna take the under.
I'll say, before twenty thirty, and this is not this
is salary contract salary, right because you know people go, well,
you know Lebron made over un Tiger Woods been. No, no,
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I'm saying, and didn't feel blow through one hundred million
dollars in gambling. Now, I'm kid, it's like forty and
four years. I mean is this I mean like it's
like the live golf money is real money. Tiger turned
that down. But I'm talking, we're just baseball, basketball, football.
I will take the under in twenty thirty in someone
playing for one hundred million dollars a year. Okay, if
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I said, if I said twenty twenty five for someone
making seventy five, oh sent twenty twenty five wow, three years, Wow,
I'll still go under. I'll still go over over on
that one. But very close. I mean, that's that's pushed level.
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I mean because look, I mean incrementally quarterbacks have creeped up, right,
and that that salary, that salary pool is only going
to get bigger. That that's what this comes from. And
then of course you got baseball, Like I don't think
I don't think we're there with baseball. Baseball, they stretch
it out over so long. We're still in the thirties, right,
we haven't reached but for football quarterback and supermax deal
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a Day. Jason Smith and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan
and the Dants. Today is day two of NBA Free
agency continues. We had a big time money conversation with
Rex Walters a few minutes ago, and now it's time
for more money, you know. And that's a thing, Doug.
I've known you know, knowing you for this long that
anytime there's a conversation, as long as it's about a
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lot of money, I know that gets your interest because
there's certain topics that we get into that. But when
it gets to money, it's just I you know, and
part of me is I understand more the ramifications of
certain things when you deal with that money, because I
can hear the excitement in your voice, like when you
talk about things like, hey, here's Nicola yok it's gonna
make sixty two million dollars in the final year of
his deal. Well, I just I mean the number jumps
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out at you, right, doesn't it. I mean you just
sit there and go like, wow, I had I didn't.
I didn't do that. I was doing the math. That's
a lot of how has it broken down? And then
when I saw a six and then a two in
the final year of the deal, that was that was different.
That was that was different. Okay, So what's the next
money store you wanted? You got for me? So according
to Shams who's got this a few minutes ago. Zion
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Williamson will be signing a five year rookie Max contract
extension worth up to two hundred and thirty one million dollars.
This from Sham's on the Athletic. The commitment's going to
take Williamson's new deal through the twenty twenty seven twenty
eighth season. Now, at first you look at this and go, wow,
he's gonna resign with New Orleans because I thought that
for the longest time he's going to be the guy.
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He's going to be the next Shack. He's gonna say, yeah,
you can give me a lot of money, but I
need to get someplace else other than New Orleans. But
when you hear Rex Walters say, hey, guys, say I'm
gonna get paid first and then figure everything out, I
still don't know that Zion Williamson's career is going to
end up being something that's long term in New Orleans.
He has said I want to sign this deal as
soon as possible. He's had injury issues, so now he's
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got paid. I don't know that this takes him out
of Hey, yeah, I got paid, but now I'm eventually
going to find my way out of New Orleans and
get someplace else. Yeah, I think that's more for guys
that are further along. Take a guess how many games
Zion Williamson has played in the NBA. It's at fifty.
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Has he played fifty games? Over that? Over that? So
let's see eighty five games. Eighty five games exactly, that's
how many. Wow, really, I gotta right in the second time.
That's awesome. I didn't even look that up. I swear
to god, I didn't looking up on the computer. That
was really good. That's really good of you. Um Man,
What else am I thinking here, James? That's not That's
(36:23):
not creepy at all. No really, no, no no, no, you're thinking.
You're thinking about a sandwich right now where you are,
You're thinking about a sandwich. I am thinking about a sandwich.
Tell me mustard or mail. Anyway, He's played eighty five games,
so this is one of those. I mean, I don't
first I actually like what New Orleans has. They have
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a nice they got a good they got a good group,
and then you add Zion to it and it that
could be one of those sneaky Holy Cow or the Pelicans.
They're really really good. I think there's a little bit
of a leap of faith here from New Orleans, and
I would guess that Zion gets that, like, look, we're
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gonna give you a max deal, but you got to
keep yourself in better shape and condition. We've never they've
done a really good job of never calling him out
on this physical condition, but it's been bad, So I
do think, And there was a you're right. There was
a lot of talk of he's disconnected with the team,
he's not working out with the team. Suddenly they start
talking about two hundred million dollars and he's all about
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the Pelicans. But I'm gonna buy that this one. He
plays at least all but the last year. You know,
you get to the last year if you want to
steer your way out of it. Maybe, But he's only
played he's essentially played one NBA season and he's going
into his fourth year. So I and he hasn't stayed health,
didn't stay healthy at Duke, didn't stay healthy in Summer league,
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hadn't stayed healthy at all in the NBA, and they
missed all of this season. Next year is the years
where he needs to deliver on the goods. And I
think this is a leap of faith contract. There's a
difference in the NFL and the NBA. Right in the
NFL get paid for what you're gonna do, and the NBA,
you get paid for what they hope you're gonna do.
I look at at Zion, and that was always the
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only concern I had. You know, his weight, and he
had gotten hurt every single year in his career, going
back to high school. You know, missing the end of
high school. He's missing a lot of time with Duke,
missing time here. If he goes and and look, the
NBA is very fickle. If he just proves that for
the majority of this year he stays healthy, then other teams,
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I think you're gonna Okay, Now we can be into
we can believe in him, because we'll believe in him
sooner rather than later, and Zion will accelerate that process. Now,
if he still stays hurt and he's playing thirty five
games a year because he can't stay in the lineup, no,
I agree. But if he just has shows this year
he can do it. No, I think that you can.
You can look at a big power play the year
after for Zion saying okay, I showed you how good
(38:50):
I can be. I'm the next hood ornament of the
league because he has an IT factor unlike anybody else
in the league, you know. I mean the thing about
Zion is, as we talked about the little bit of
time that he's played, the interest level in him is
kind of very Shaquille O'Neil asked that we want to
see him. They're gonna put his games on national TV
as much as they can. He will gain that power
pretty quickly. I think he might be surprised how fast
(39:13):
Zion could be able to call the shots as long
as this year he shows, Hey, I'm healthy and I'm
dominant like I was in the glimpses I've shown so far. Yeah,
I mean, I still think at the end of the day,
you know, organizations, you know, one, it all comes down
to the type of person you are and where you
are your life, you know, and and how organizations are structured.
(39:35):
I think there's a there is a certain group of
organizations that do get pushed around and players are able
to dictate and determine where they're gonna go and what
they're gonna do, and there's some that aren't, you know,
like we don't hear all this noise from every player,
So I'm not into these Zion's going to control and
get himself out of New Orleans like they did him
(39:57):
a favorite game of Supermax because they think that's what
he can be. He's gotta stay healthy and he's got
to be able to shoot the basketball. But he's so explosive,
and you know, he's that perfect small ball four five.
You know, he's really only about six foot five, but
he can guard, you know, and he can't guard centers
traditional centers per se, but they can't guard him either,
(40:19):
and he is an absolute freak. So I hope he's
healthy because I think that Pelicans team is a really
good one and a fun one to watch. If I
now speaking over run, we did over under for one
hundred million dollars a year players in the Major League
Baseball NFL NBA a few minutes ago. If I put
the over under for Zion's games played this year at
fifty five over over for Zion fifty five, see, I
(40:42):
would still take the under because I don't know. I
don't know how how much he can stand the riggers
of playing a regular schedule once it gets past twenty
twenty five, thirty games. I mean, I don't you know,
if you play a lot in au and but you
know this is different now and you're talking about the
pounding of the NBA. I would still take the if
he played forty games this year, I would say that
that's probably what I would expect from him. If he
(41:04):
plays in the in the somewhere in the low forties,
all right, that's kind of what I would get from
zion Um. I don't know, he played sixty one games
two years ago, so I think he'll I think he'll
hit the over there. Look, it's the big thing is
what is the weight that he's going to play at.
You know, if he's going to show up in the
(41:24):
high twos and the three bills like you're you're going
to be right something. A body is not supposed to
have that much weight and that much power, that much explosiveness.
It's just it. But I truly believe that you miss
a year and you sit there and watch, and you
go through the fluctuations and wait, and at some point
in time, the light switch goes on. And I'm hoping
(41:48):
that with all that money, the light switch goes on.
Don't know if it will, but it feels like again
and I'm based upon posts on social media, feels like
it has. But that that's what's going to happen. He's
got to spend Let me look at happen for Joel
Embid this year right, spend time dedicated his body and
what he eat it and when he ate and look
at out what kind of year he had. Twenty twenty two.
(42:08):
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