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April 23, 2025 12 mins

Capping off another short week, Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson joined Mike Hosking to Wrap the Week that was. 

They discussed the number of people taking leave for the period, the best brand of Easter eggs, and the fact that chatbots have queues. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
No hold on here morning, Mike. Yes, the Potter Brand
Easter eggs were very good. However, the Queen Anti eggs
are superior. Will wait for your feedback next Easter when
they get back on the shop. I disagree the Queen
Ann's okay, but the Queen hands a little bit commercial
for my taste, Mike. I got rid of Sky when
they cease putting the live snooker on. I hope your
rants helped get it back on here. Boss has just
been yelling at me self indulgence. I think those were

(00:30):
the terms he's using. It's far too much self indulgence
going on in this program. I told him to nap
Off who wind this up a bit? Andy, I can't
hear it. Galhad inside your bit. Scuse it sounds data,
doesn't It sounds so old. This is Black Mumba. It

(00:50):
is the original Ellis Cooper group, while those ones who
are still alive, and not all of them are. In fact,
it will feature the work of Glenn Buxton who died
in nineteen ninety seven, so surviving members of the group,
and it's their first album in fifty one years, which
I think has got to be some sort of record.
He's actually on the road for a headlining co headlining

(01:12):
tour with Judas Priests across twenty two North American cities.
He's seventy something. I've only interviewed him once. I think
he was a very likable guy, very chatty, very pleasant,
likable guy. Not remotely like the on stage presents anyway.
And Els Cooper reunion tours yet to be confirmed. They think,
probably due to age. The full out two is too hard,
so they're looking maybe to play a few small sets

(01:34):
in places like Detroit and Los Angeles and New York
and London. I like track number seven, Crap that Gets
in the Way.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of Your dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
What a great name for a song, Crap that gets
in the way of your dreams. This segment sponsored Andy,
So let's hear who sponsors it.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for Fear
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Kate Hawksby's with us along the Tim Wilson, a very
good morning to both of you.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Good morning. I hear poor Elliot in the seven thirty
new who's running through the snooker, and I wondered whether
he was doing that heat from you.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, no, no, And that's a very good question to
open the segment, Katie, and thank you very much for that.
Elliott is yet another fill in on this program this
week due to all the regulars being unavailable to actually
turn up and do some work. But Elliott is the
superior broadcaster because Elliott has that global view of sport,
which is not just rugby and cricket. He looks to

(02:26):
the world and goes, there's interesting physical activity going on
all over the world, and what's some of that I
can cover and heat. That's why he does the snooker.
Didn't even mention it to him.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's impressive by.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
The opportunity to do a bit of a rant though,
which is good precisely.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
How are you going, Tim, how's that holiday period of yours?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, actually back in the settle this week, so it's
it's a bit weird because everyone's on holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Do you handling at your multinational? Do you handle the
leave hams?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, I have to authorized leave et cetera.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, Well we're not talking sickly, we're talking a slash. Well,
do you authorize the a slash?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I authorized the al from your from your.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
How many are you employing these days? Was it two
hundred and thirty or two ndred and sixty five?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
You up to?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Now, how many people you got there?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
We've got nine fall and part time employ.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Nine sorry sorry, this is business talk to We've got
nine FTEs FTEs.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, nine ft slash pts.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Slash pts, okay, nine ft slash PTEs. Of the nine
slash ft slash PTEs. How many have turned up to
work these three days Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays? What percentage
of the population of your corporat is turning up to work?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh, we've done. Yeah, every everyone's back in there. Everyone's
in the office.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
This week the moment. So what were they all off
last week?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't know because I was off unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
What's your assessment, Katie. What percentage of the population your
rerickons on holiday this week?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
It's hard to tell.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think it's still quite busy in town, but I
think it's a lot of school holiday peeps, like shoppers
and stuff like that. I don't I don't think the
roads are busy in the morning, which is awesome, but
it is just combobulating when you you were kind of
in work mode, when the whole country feels like they're
in holiday mode that is a weird vibe to this
week has been weird. But by the way, I heard
you say that I would know the name of those crackers,
so I quickly had to look them up because I thought,

(04:19):
I do not know the name of those crackers.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
What crackers were those? Again?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
The crisp bread from Levin it's the Baked.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Dane, Baked Dane gluten free. I'm right in saying gluten free,
aren't I?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, it depends, Well, yeah, I think they made. I
think the ones we had with a keto knack and brut.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Knackenbrut there's nothing better. Yeah, A little bit of.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
It was just all seeds and olive oil and it was.
It was great ingredients. It was it was a really
good product. We liked it, didn't we?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
How is it possible, Tim, that those two products, the
Potter brother eggs and then are made in Levin? And
I also got a text from some the RJ's factory
shop as an r J's liquorice that's also in Leven.
What's going on in Levin?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Well, it's obviously some kind of gourmet renaissance, isn't There is.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
The new Martinborough. Well, I was going to.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Say, is it a bill that you and you come
So you're an r J's investor, You're driving through town
on the holiday north and you see that the knach
Brook is made there, and you think, I tell you what,
why don't we set up r jays in this part
of the world Because you see it being an artisanal
Therefore you want to be a part of the artisanal community.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
I reckon that r J's was there first, and then
your knack and book came.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Along, right.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, when did Potter brothers arrive?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, that's the question, isn't it. That's the that's the
sexful dollar question.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
For a while, I think it's your first experience with
the Potter is Easter Egg. But have been around for
a while and they're in the supermarkets and they do
other things like chocolate dipped Russian fudge and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
They already they should do something German. They should.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And are they well, Katie, you obviously know more about
this than I do. But are they Are they brothers?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oh? I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't know them personally. I mean, I buy the
I don't investigate the background of the family.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, because you know the research on companies when you
launch a business. You always go something in something, so
it's it's like Wilson and Hosking, Hawksby and Wilson because
there's an alliteration and a vibe to it that people
respond to. Other thing you do with businesses is put
a start date on Wilson and Hawksby since nineteen oh nine,
and people think, oh, it's nostalgia, whether it's true or not.
And so I'm just wondering whether the Potter brothers or

(06:35):
really brothers, whether they're actually called Potter or they think, well,
you don't know that they're brothers. They could be oh yeah, bro, why.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Would you like, why would you call yourself Potter brothers
if you weren't brothers?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
The scandal of the day.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Our newsroom needs to be onto this. I might talk
to Elliot about this. Actually brief break more in a moment.
Fourteen past eight.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions
to the table, Tim.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Wilson, Kate Hawksby, So here we go. R J started
in ninety five, so they're the locals. Foxton Fizz. We
forgot that Foxton Fizz that's famous of course. Now this
is for you, Katie G N S C. Pestosto. Okay,
that's from Livin. There's a food tour each year in
the district. So this this place is going off book

(07:20):
your book yourselves in. We need we need a long
weekend for some I have had Foxton fizz. My grandparents
used to own a batch at Foxton Beach back in
the days when Foxton Beach was somewhere known had ever
heard of. And my grandparents who went and bought batches
and places like that, and we would go there and look,
I'd go, Nana and Grandad, there's nothing to do here.

(07:41):
What am I doing here? But anyway, be that as
it may. That's a trip down memory lane. Ben and
Joe Potter are brothers. There you go, Katie, Ben and Joe.
You were right, broad question, Katie, Is Mike this all
over the place at home?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Very much?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's really hard to keep up because your mind races
a lot, and often you hear you sometimes.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Do this on air.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Actually, Jason might be aware of it. Maybe it's a
management issue. You assume that people know something already and
so you just go to the next bit and it's like,
wait a minute, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Does he start talking about stuff? That he's been thinking about,
and it's just like he, oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Say something random and I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
What is that about? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Actually, actually I do a bit of that with Rachel,
So she's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm like, oh, oh yeah, hang on.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think it's your head. I think Tim, it's the curse.
I think you'll agree with me. It's the curse of
the genius.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The mind is racing. Oh no, that's some kind of curse.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Now to my fun factor of the week for you was,
I had no idea until we joined a queue that
chatbots have cues? Did you? Did you think like me
that chatbots were the answer technologically to ever being in
a queue with a person ever again? And therefore it
wasn't possible to have a cue you for a chatbot.
And yet there are cues for chatbots.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I suppose on reflection, you think there's only a limited
number of chatbots. Can't manage you know why?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, think just stopping it. Why are there a limited
number of chatbots? They're not real. Why wouldn't you have
an infinite infinite number of chatbots?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
You've only got so many servers doing the chatbots expand
your expand your memory.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You had to wait. Yeah, so you had to wait
in line for a chatbot? How long did you have
to wait for?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
What were we Katie twenty fifteen, twenty twenty, Yeah, oh
well we were like five or six in the queue.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
This is another one of those stories.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
You tell me you personally, but you were actually the
one on hold.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was me and hear you tell these stories.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
And you go I had to put up with this,
and I think, no, you didn't, you weren't.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You did not.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
I went off to the snooker room show a few
frames and then came back and my wife was still
on the phone.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Waiting for a chatbot. That's outrageous.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
It goes, what have we achieved with chatbots? If we've
achieved nothing with chatbots, I mean, the whole point of
technological advance is something profoundly changes.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
It must be a system, and it must be down
to money. Some are better than others. Someone someone are like, Hi,
I'm Gina, You're friendly, I've got names and they want
to get to know you. And others are just you know,
wrote like I'm a chatbot. Do the following three queries
meet your You know, do you want to know about X,
Y or Z.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
You have to select what was okay? Because I was,
I was there bit adjacent. What actually happened, Katie did
did the chat bots.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
In the same room? Admit it? You weren't even in
the same room.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, I wasn't the same Remember this. I can't deal with.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Sony because this is not a novel situation for you, Katie.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
This is just the grinding trouble.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well have you, Katie, you spent your whole life in
a chatbot Q.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Honestly, this is the daily Edmund and the grind.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
You wouldn't have this.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I like talking to chatbots. It's I'm permanently on hold
with something.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Have you tried Have you tried? Actually, have you tried
talking to chat GPT?

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I love chet GPT wants to be your friend now,
it's so cut.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Chat gpt is Roman was talking to chat GPT. He said,
are you going to take over the world?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's not a bad question. What was the NAXT.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Question is it's like there is a lot of uncertainty
about new technology. But I think you'll find that essentially
it was that it was a holding. It was actually
a holding statements like, well, I might be working on.
Taking contrast, I'm going to be your new friend.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
In contrast, Katie's last question to chat gpt was what
is this? As she held a fruit up to it
and it went, it's a purple guaba.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, And then it said not just it's a it's
a strawberry gaba, but it said, would you like some
nice would you like me to provide some nice recipes?
Perhaps a cocktail?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay? See this is the Katie.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
This is the only way you can get an intelligent
and courteous conversation in your in your life, isn't it
by speaking to chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Here we go, Here we go. What are you doing
for ensic Datamorrow?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Tim, we'll probably go to mass.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Actually remember Nights who gave so much so that we
could we could enjoy the freedoms that we have.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, there is nothing wrong with that. Will you enjoy that?
In Katie, you enjoy it, And it'll bound to be
fun because some of it's going to be with me.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
And semantic biscuits.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And semantic biscuits, where do they come from? Are they
from Livin?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
They from HUNEBEI?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well that's not it's not quite as exotic as twenty
two twenty two.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
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