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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson are both well us. Good
morning to you both.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Thank your morning wedding, Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning to you both as well.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Jenny, how have you filled your week with no parliament?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm actually overseas celebrating my husband's sixtieth birthday with him
and my kids.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
So sensational. Well, okay, so you've brought your kids with
you on the sixtieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, we did, we did?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Was that content true?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, so look we we're a pretty good family. We
travel right, So they're doing, they're doing. Okay that the
moments of romantic intimacy are limited, but we're still having
fun as a family.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, the intimacy is limited. Nice holiday update, Jenny, Well
done you congratulations. Now a couple of key questions where
if you want to, don't have to tell us where
you are if you don't want to, but where are you?
And is the time zone? And issue? This morning?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I am in Italy and out in sort of the
country outside of Siena, and it's about ten puff units.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
No, that's pretty that's pretty now, that's that's fair enough.
We were just going to give you the sign and
what's award for turning up an unusual outs that's all.
Is it nice and warm?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, it's about it will be about twenty three degrees
more than.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Most important of all, your husband is the same age
I am is, visually speaking, not not in terms of
attraction general, let's not go there, but in terms of
how he's aging versus how I'm aging. How would you
score things?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh, my goodness, is it like mood of the boot boardroom.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's very much mood of the boardroom, mood of the
sixty year old.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'd give him like four points even he's doing very well.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think, okay, good stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
But your Mark, I know, I know, I know well,
I know him very well, and he's he's in great shape.
Him and I were dog handless a year that we
did an as qualifyed together top men. So yeah, happy
sixtieth birthday to him.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You've got no problems to own and shape, mate, because
when I was in the when I was at the
studio the other day, you had this flesh, little pluss,
that container full of all your healthy morsels.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That that's exactly that's the trick. That's the trick.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, I've got a special name for it.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What do you call it my Mediterranean seller. It's not
that special. Now let's deal with the just a couple
of quick things, Ginny are the reason I don't know
how much of this year up on giving you a
celebratiy has some sixty birthday. But the residency pathway things
that were announced yesterday, the immigration changes are they, broadly speaking,
(02:33):
something you guys would live with if you got back
to government.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, the problem I have is the same problem that
Winston's raised, is that we've lost nineteen thousand construction workers
and the number of apprenticeships has hugely decreased. So where
is the plan for training up our own people. It
seems like we're just reverting to bringing in tradees without
actually having a plan in place for our own workforce.
(02:57):
And that's really concerning when those unemployment numbers hugely over
represented as young people here pecking.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But here's my problem, because the Chocolate Fish Cafe, which
I assume you know because you're from Wellington, is they
wrote to Louise Upstin about the hospow thing. They need
a pathway. They can't get locals. I mean, yes, people
leave the country and yes they're unemployed, but if you
can't get people in hospital. There's too many people who
just don't want to work in this country, isn't there?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think Louise wrote back and said something like these
nine thousand people unemployed in Wellington, which we all agree
is too many. So yeah, there is a problem, but
we need good pathways into work in good training and
there was zero in the last budget for anything in
terms of training or incentivization for young people to take
up opportunities and that's why those numbers for unemployed young
(03:42):
people has continued to increase under this government.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Mark, you're the mood of the boardroom just generally this morning.
Do you take on board what is being said to
you by the leadership in the business community.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Absolutely, so I'm at the event now, I've just popped
out to kill on the show, but yeah, absolutely, we've
got to listen. These are the people on the front
line of the economy with tons of experience.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But the mood here is really.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Positive and they want to be actively involved in the recovery.
So you know, no, it's to me, it's very very positive.
But are we listening one hundred percent?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
With listening and krystoph luxen at fifteen, what how do
you I mean, how do you explain that that's not
good enough?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
As a leader?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Well, look, I can only speak to it as a
as a member of his team, and I think that overall,
when you look at it, the government's actually doing quite
well and he's the leader. He's the guy that's making
that happen. So as you know, you're probably talking to
the wrong guy, because I've got enormous respect for him.
I've worked with under lots of good leaders. He is outstanding.
And when you actually look at his ratings and go
(04:43):
through it, you know, the top rating leverages his personal
brand for New Zealand businesses advantage, you know, three point
three point eight three. I mean, I've been on two
trade missions with him. Everyone will tell you that he
is relentlessly the energy that he brings and the promotion
that he's doing for us overseas.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
When this guy, this guy has promoted himself by being
a leader in the business community and these are his
own mates in the business community ranking him at fifteen
in his own cabinet, that's not a good sign at all,
and they it shows that he's got no plan to
create jobs and no one's got any faith in his
ability to turn the economy around, and that is a
real consume for this government.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Just on the job, just on the jobs front, very quickly,
is that when Labour went out of government, the projections
were under them that would be in a worse state
now in terms of unemployment than what we currently are.
So you know, we're actually in a better place than
what we would have been under Labor.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We recognize that. There's that we recognize.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think he's struggling on that one, and I think
everyone shrunk. The economy has shrunk and on the edge
of a recession. We've seen a reduction and GDP in
that last report. You know that, and we know the
cost of living is up. Kiwis are out of work
and record numbers are leaving the country. You cannot tell
people that things are getting better, I'm getting worse.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Well, what I'm saying, Gene, is that, yes, I can
say that we're in a better place than what was
projected under the Labor government.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes we own a recovery.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yes it is hard, it is difficult, but we remained
focused on it. And the Moody year is quite simply
that the CEOs and the businesses want to be more
optimistic and they want to be adding to that and
fueling the recovery.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
O real quickly, Hold on, Hold on, hold, just quickly, Jinny,
there's not a political question, but just let me ask
this before I come back to the marketing for you guys.
In this mood of the boardroom, the Palestinian thing, which
may or may not be coming on Saturday morning our time,
why did you guys, did you guys ever think about
it in your time six years in office? Did you
ever think about it, talk about it, act on it,
do anything about it? Or is I just can't understand
(06:39):
the fascination slash obsession we've had with it in the
last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It never came up when I was a ministry in cabinet.
Wasn't something that I'm discussing. But you know, I think
it's important that people are completely intolerant of the level
of suffering of one hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, I think they are, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's time that we made a deed and it seems
weird that they've made a decision, but they're not going
to tell anybody. What's the point. Christopher Luxan has dragged
his heels on this one for too long. Well, it
seems like there's some sort of disagreement between coalition partners.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well it's true, but that's not the end of the world,
because that is coalition partners. Mark a hand on heart.
Do you know what you've decided yet? Or as honestly,
Winston wandering around New York meeting with people still trying
to allegedly make up his mind.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, I think he is doing the right thing. I mean,
you know, the stakes are very high with this sort
of stuff, and it does matter. Are they what you
do and what you say?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I think they are, And I think then you know,
so Winston's definitely doing the right thing. All I can
do is shear my own experiences, having been up in
the Middle East for quite some time, is that everyone
up there totally agrees that you're never going to get
lasting peace in the Middle East until you get a
two state solution. To do that, you need governments on
both sides that are wanting to get around the table
and are highly motivated to make compromises and actually achieve it.
(07:58):
That feels like it's a long way away at the moment.
I think there's a lot of retrick that happens down here.
I think that for me personally, my old job was
to get to aid into areas struck by you know, conflict,
and and so I've been working very hard to try
and do that on a very on a on a
ground on you know, on the coal face of actually
(08:18):
trying to get things in there. So, but the decision
itself will be quite simply that the Foreign Minister and
the Prime Minister and obviously our cabinet will come to
a final decision. We've got our Foreign minister that's taken
a very careful approach to it, and I think that's
the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay you I thought they'd made a decision.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But of course they've made a decision. They're just mucking
around with it. We all know that Hipkins gets two
out of five and runs the risk of being invisible.
Do you take that on board.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
The biggest thing is that that the leader and the
deputy leader of the government ranked way back.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think that's a but they score better than Hipkins stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The other government they're meant to be in control and
fixing the economy, and the business community are voting quite
loudly that they have no confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Come on, they're not saying there's no confidence. There's actually
reasonably scored. Hipkins are two is not a good school.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's pretty low.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Hipkins is lower than all twenty eight members of the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Truth.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It reflects the fact that we've got policy coming an
election year. We'll have some soon, and I think people
are good. That people are excited and looking forward to
us having policy, and we'll make sure that it's good
when it comes.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We're excited. The stuff that's coming before the end of
the year is your.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Tax right, That's what we've said.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, do you know what that looks like? Roughly? As
you said here talking to us from an Italian evening.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Those details are being worked through by Chris Hopkins and
Barbara Edmonds and those the other two that work through
those details.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay, I hope you don't mind me doing this, but
I've been reflecting a lot on these things, and no, no, no,
and I'm definitely not gonna said I can't do that,
but but look, I actually just wanted to give a
shout out.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I believe these cal Again, he does this every week March.
I'm going to stop on my.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know, it could be really good.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's like Mark's weekly shout out time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I think. I think.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So my shoutout is something that label them never do
because they try to take the credit for everything themselves.
But I'm going to do a shout out to my chief,
to my chief executives, communities, move and sing them police
Richard Chambers, Corrections, Jeremy Lightfoot, Nima, Dave Gorn, CFO, Karen
Chang and sport and railing castles and their teams, because
you know what, it's them that's doing the hard yards
and the hard work. And Ginny, I was on the
(10:47):
phone this week to a police constable, young police constable
and road Rule that was in hospital waiting for surgery
to your arm because you got moored by pitbull and
a female corrections officer that was slash in the face.
These are the guys out there doing the hard yards,
doing the work, and it's delivering for our country. And
so you know the politicians they agree.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Like one. I'd like to add one. I'd like to
shout out to working mums right across New Zealand are
working hard every day, some of them, and I'd like
to say all those working mums under the cost of
blowin crisis who are struggling under this government. Put food
on the table every week. I like to keep all
the wonderful ones that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You've done to you just stuck through this particular segment
right to the end without pulling their hair up.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So what Jenny just did there is that it was
a shout out to all of our people on the
front line, and she politicized it, and that is it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
All right, nice to see you guys, Jenny, have a
good break. How long are you away?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
For you back next week?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
All right, good on, You're nice to see you. Make
enjoy the ridge, the good drinks and nibbles. At the
posession mark.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
There was a nice breakfast coming out. But I want
to speak with you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So that's that's the herald for you. Nice to see you, guys.
Make Mitchell Ginny Anderson.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
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