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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody is Steve j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamage, the
guy we are the Breakfast Club. Nalla is with us
today with the Nalla what's up? And we got a
special guest in the building. His debut album, Forever Us
Never Them is out right now, Ladies and gentlemen from
Detroit with up Dough forty two Doug, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm all right, man, taking it easy.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's not crazy to even say this your debut album.
I know you got a whole catalog.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I know you know how i'd be.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How you feeling, though, I'm all right?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
No chilling man, tie it too early for you.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
He sounds sad. I was out all night man.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
At the club. Yeah, okay, okay with a script club.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, Scarlets, no, some other another club. Know what this called?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What is the club in New York? Now? Don't queens?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
He was probably Queen Queens, ye, yeah, Queen's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
What's the difference between the debut album and all the
other projects you've been putting out?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like, what's the difference?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I guess the label However, they do it like, I
don't know the different I thought it was based on
like the most songs, but.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I guess this is my first ALB man. I hope
y'all appreciate it. You know what I'm saying. I put
hard work into it, but did my best you think?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, do you feel like it's a restart?
Because when you had your records out before, you was
on fire, right every record in the club, I mean
the joint with Future, the joint with everybody baby, and
then you got locked up, So I don't think you
could really enjoy how hot you were out there. So
(01:46):
do you feel like you have to? It's almost like
starting over. Yeah, I feel like I'm building like my
momentum back up. I feel like people wanted to see
if I could produce you know, the same type of music,
good music, and I feel like I answered that.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You definitely shop on this album.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I remember last time you were here you talked
about perfecting your rap skills while you was locked up.
Did this last bit help you shopping your skills even more?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah? It just gave me.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It gave me more stuff to talk about, like more
balance I thought about.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I had a whole book like what I thought.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I was going to do, you know what I'm saying,
how I wanted to go by it. And when I
got out, I'm like, man, scratch that, you know what
I'm saying. I wanted to chill, I wanted to have
I wanted to see my kids. And then by the
time I was ready to go in the studio, I
felt like, you know, I was ready.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Prior to this album, when you did have like the
single Circulating, did you have a different project in mind, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I was gonna call it love Don't Live Here, And
I was just making songs about you know, stuff like that,
relationship stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And what happened was with somebody and y'all broke up.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I ain't breaking up.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We just was, you know, up down, you know what
I'm saying, so ithing like and you know that's time
when we you know, got back, right.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
She didn't want to be with you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure she did that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It just was like, you know, you mad you in there,
not even that, because I was gonna call it that
before I went to jail, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So, and when I went to jail.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Her being there for me like kind of scratched that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I didn't about to drop a disc album.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
No man, you want this out.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It was just like a different what was fame and
like just the motion you were getting was that like
stopping you from being able to give the love like
your partner was looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, I say, like.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Just most more so lifestyleed like being out in different states,
you know what I'm saying. Trying to take that into consideration,
and it's just like it's a lot of stuff going on,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So it's like you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Actually gotta make that time. Like so somebody probably feels
like you ain't making that time. You know what I'm saying.
You like, well, I'm doing this. I might do be
doing this, but I'm doing all this, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm like, man, but I got right
right having.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Having a girlfriend while doing the bid and make doing
the bit tougher.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Hell yeah, Cause you like what's going on, you know
what I'm saying, You ain't there, so you like somebody
might be there, man, somebody gotta be there, that's what
you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Like, but.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's up to her like to keep reassuring you like, no,
this ain't some girls. Let you know, Like look, man,
as soon as you step foot in there, I'm gone damn.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah that's how I be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But you heard you heard the over support though when
you were locked up, I mean people trying to get
you out. They were putting the money.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Support because he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Was in there only No, I was in a hole
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So either way, when I was feeling a long, like
I can't talk on the phone, I can't you know
what I'm saying, I just going through a.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Lot fighting or no.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I was like certain jails are putting me in the hole,
like just because who I am. Like they say it's
a security rich to the compound, like everybody walking up
on pictures, they feel like to see pictures like it's
the club, yeah, something like that. But they like, I
ain't gonna say pictures. I just want to kick it.
(05:52):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna say pictures.
I just want to kick it in. And they'd be
paying attention, like to the CEO's getting too close and
they be like, we can't hear you out. You're worried
about your girl, your girls should have been worried about
you knocking off the female CEOs. That sounds like I
want too much worried about because you know, you know
(06:14):
you be like, you know, I ain't there forever, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm worried about nobody. I
was like, you know, I hope you stay on the
right track. That's for everybody, though, Like even with your friend,
you like y'all stay focused after you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Take care of the kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You're doing what you can. You still gotta take care.
That's the most important thing. You still gotta take care
of everybody from there your mama, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So, how did your mom feel when she heard that
my mama record off the for us?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Never did Mom?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I mean she you know, she just rocking with everything.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She really ain't gonna too much focus on one song.
She listening to a She gonna send me a text
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
This new album is hard. You know what I'm saying.
I'm proud of you. Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is that run the intro?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, that's my principal.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Principal, Yeah, what was the call that you gave your
principal that made her come back with that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So my principal, she like she do like speaking, like
motivational speaking. So when I was young, I had went
to prison, like fifteen, I had a warrant, you know,
and she the only person that gave me to turn
(07:40):
myself in.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm like, I ain't going there.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I'm young, you know what I'm saying, Like, hell no,
I ain't going there. She called, she came to my house,
like I told my mama, like I got a friend
in the police office.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
He could turn her stuff into They gonna make sure
they don't touch him, like he gonna go straight to
the get him a bond, and y'all can get me
back out. So then that happened. I got back and
they're going to prison. And while I was in prison,
my first time, she went to prison.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
To principal, Yeah, is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
To prison?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I want to say, was it money line something like
some of the numbers between them lines. But she ended
up going to prison, federal prison, and she you know,
she when she got out, she was writing me, you
know what I'm saying, just telling me like, I'm proud
of because when I got out, I started rapping, you
know what I'm saying, and I took off like kind
(08:46):
of quick. You put money on her books. I was
in jail, tell me, yeah, I was in jail. So
we probably got out about the same time. Anyway, we
was connecting social media. She I'm proud of, you know,
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And then I end.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Up going back to prison and she's just writing me
eight week eight two weeks telling me I did, sending
me stuff about Shack, how you take care of his
finally on her you know, stuff like that, sending me books,
sending me songs. She thinks I should redoing just like no,
I think you should let me talk on your as.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, so this is the last time you went to
prison in twenty twenty two. Yeah, you didn't want to
turn yourself in there neither.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't blame it, but not wanting to go to prison.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I mean, damn, though I don't know what I had.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I mean, I ain't gonna lie bro coming from like
just coming from the hood, Like, bro, turn yourself into
jail gonna be the hard gotta be the hardest thing
walking into somebody jail knowing it's gonna be a minute,
Like and I.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Don't feel like nobody likes follow that. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I should have did it because it was six months,
but you know it was hard though you had your
career six months, but it would have been six months
if you turned upon it probably would have been ninety
days ideally, like because we're halfway house like home min.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But you know, I didn't know about the federal girlment.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All I know about the state in the state in Michigan,
it's day for day.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So I'm like, it's like God, so.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You like, I'm on fire right now. I'm getting all
this money right now. You know what I'm saying, Bro,
I probably had like two million dollars in shows like
just lined up.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So I'm like, you know what I'm saying, this one
that catch me if you can't, damn.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
You still regretted, Yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I just regretted the whole situation, Like yeah, when they
tell me, you know I had I had a sweet situation. First,
my approbation went, she was leaving me pretty much do
my thing. She was leaving me pretty much travel. I
really you know sometime I like they be on my
bab like I really fucked up.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like you know, I messed up like this.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Even in j I two people, my judge, he was
so hard and I used to be like he really
he really let me go.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You know what I'm saying, I really like just messed
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But I mean that's that's part of growth though, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Sure you're older now, so you understand, like, you know what,
I couldn't handled that a different.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Way, for sure, I wish I would have.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's a line on your eye.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I can't remember who he was rapping about, but you
was like, man, I bet you he wished he took
that ten.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, skip, he got offered ten years and ended up
betting thirty Jesus yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And it just like you know, even with him, he like.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
He felt like if I would have took that years,
I probably would still end up doing thirty because I
want to learn nothing, you know what I'm saying. So
he like this time, being in here for this amount
of time made me like curve how I want to live,
Like made me see what I needed to do, what
(12:18):
I was doing wrong, see what you need, you need
to do what you do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying As far as everybody who.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Was he to you? My brother Okay, yeah, how long
you're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
He been in the earth for fourteen damn man.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it just been like we all went to jail
two thous eleven. Like we all went to jail. And
I feel like once I changed, like all right, luck
everybody started like because a few people had life and
(12:54):
they didn't came home like from life. Like you know
what I'm saying that that's probably the hardest thing you're
gonna do. That's why the hardest thing you're gonna do, Like,
and I feel like all it take is like one
person just to switch it up absolutely everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Look no, for sure, for sure it's looking good right now.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Now when you got home, were you surprised at how
Detroit is now? Because I think when you got locked
up Detroit, that seemed like everybody was against everybody. But
now when when I go to Detroit, I'm seeing those
seeing people, everybody partying together. It seems like it's more
welcoming the artists. And they gotta taste that money community,
they gotta taste that money.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like they don't funk the money up.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, Like I always used to tell people like I
probably would be you know few and with somebody who
probably ain't one doing as much, so they really ain't
got nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. Once
they got tasted that money, they like for what everybody
like what we're doing, like, you know, let's get this money.
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Like everybody feel like they're a song away, everybody getting
followers up, everybody and their views up.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I was telling.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Somebody like somebody gotta like be the next person like
to go crazy, like don't just let it be close.
Don't just you know what I'm saying, don't just let
the last thing be like, oh they were so close,
like you gonna go crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I feel like it's a few of y'all now for sure,
you baby baby face, Like it's a bunch of y'all
that seemed.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like sure getting money to.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Why didn't you make a fresh from the fans the
first song on that album?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Man, you think that you think that should have been
Somebody told me spend that back should have been the
first time. But I ain't put it on there what
I wanted to be. I want to Need You to
be the first song. Yeah, it's a song on their card.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That was that a tough record to right, yeah, because
it was like by my people.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It was like those type of songs like you gotta
catch that cadence to write like how It Come On?
That was like the hardest part to record, Like how
It Come On? It's a line where I had to
say it just a certain way where I ain't like
it like something in there saying it like you know
what I'm saying. Then when I recorded, I gotta double it,
(15:14):
like so I'm trying to make it man, I just
I just said I had worked hard on that, so
something like last minute, I'm like, I tell God in race,
like I feel like this should be the intro.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I'm saying. They like we can't change nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, need you to. It's too sentimental to be the
first song. I feel like that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But I like to start my projects like that, like
you know what I'm saying, Like even Freedom Boys, I
started like or like with a Jill call, like you
know what I'm saying like this, but the intro it
had to grow on me. You know what I'm saying.
I'm seeing people reactions to it. They like they're like no,
we like.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We like what what need you?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Is?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That gonna be a tough record to perform, like when
you're on stage.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know, Uh, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I ain't never thought about that, Like you might cry
dougout that. I mean, that'll be a good a good
moment though if it is. You know what I'm saying,
everybody felt like that towards somebody. You know what I'm saying,
somebody adn't lost a friend, so you know, hopefully we
can catch that, me and the fans.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And I read somewhere too, you know, talking about the
jail again that you were when you were locked up,
you didn't like receiving fan bail?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Should it bothered you?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well, they won't let me get it that much.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They'll keep it from me. So, like I said, a
lot of time I was isolated. So when I do
get it, I just read it like see what something
talking about? And I asked a lot of letters. You know,
people probably give my letters because they weren't sending them out.
But I wrote back a lot of people like just
telling them, like how I was feeling.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
They're like you coming.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Close to her, you know, and I appreciated it. I
tried to answer some many as I could some people.
It's like I'm coming to your you know what I'm saying.
You know, you try to people take their time out,
like even your friends ain't gonna do that as much.
And that was another thing you did that was pretty big.
When you got home. You did that huge concert in
the city and brought the city out, people working. People
(17:21):
were grateful and thankful for that. How was that? How
was that reaction?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It was crazy just seeing it come go, cause you
never know what you can do until you do it.
Won't nobody believe you can do it until it's done,
Like you know what I'm saying, So all the way
up until the week they like, you know what I'm saying,
he ain't finna. And it wasn't really about selling it out.
It was just about putting on the show. Like everybody
(17:48):
think my motive was like I want to just see
if I'm instead of it out all, I'm like, no,
it won't ever about selling it out. It was just
about putting on this show, Like see what type of
show we could put on.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You brought so many people to the city, so many
people out that day. Were you surprised so many people
showed up?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, I was fan.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean, but why you clearly got fans, you got
getting all this mail in jail, you got mad support
from people on the outside.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Why would you be surprised.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Because the trade a tough city, man.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
New York is tough city too, like out of reformed
here before me and baby like they down there, like
you know what I'm saying, they ain't gonna be going crazy,
like you just gotta take it for what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Detroit, they're a little better.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Than New York on that, Like first they are, you
know what I'm saying, They get some type of effort.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
New York they're just too fresh.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So and there I'm like, if they comings, they gonna
go crazy, you know what I'm saying. And when I'm
picking the artists, we like, who's gonna get them to
go crazy? And I'm picking this urger I'm picking. But
I had some good, good, good artists. I know, Jeezy,
I know me, you know what I'm saying, bullsy like
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and everybody, I mean everybody. Bro that came was like, Bro,
it's the best concert we ever. They're like, y'all want
to let us sit down? Like soon we thought we
were finna sit down, all right, you suld sit down somebody,
you know what I'm saying, We can chill on it.
Another person came out with Higgs, like and you know
(19:26):
what I'm saying. Now I'm trying to do it again,
and it's like, how do you compep with that?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Or do you even try to compete with that?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean, you could have a Doug trustable at this
point in Detroit, the city something every year, Doug day something.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But do you think they're gonna get tired now if
you keep bringing new artists?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So how do I do it? Do I bring new
artists a year?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I would think? So?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Yeah, bring you ortists.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean the same thing what gott he does every
year when he does did that show when everybody comes
on out meet did it a couple of times in Philly?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, Drake got the OO, Drake got the Ovio Fest.
And then it gives you an opportunity to introduce new
Detroit artists every year.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah that one, I'm uh see this year I might
try to focus on like the newer artists, you know
what I'm saying, the newer artists of the world. That
was about like just I put.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
My all in that one.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know what I'm saying. This year, I feel like
I know what they won't like. I feel I could
do it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I can say that you had Gez and you've always
spoke about admiring Jeezy'll work together. He on the new album,
The Being that record. When you look at how he
evolved as a man, Yeah, if that inspire you, do
you look at that and be like, oh okay, I
see what Yeah, like niggas can go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Man, Yeah, watching jez bro you know, Jeez my favorite artist.
So it's like, you know, I just keep task. I
don't trying to you know what I'm saying. I try
to be on it too much. I just be keeping
tasks and I just be you know, I've seen dropping books,
I've seen you know, even having found you know what
I'm saying, trying new stuff. So you know, I just
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admired it from afarm man.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's my guy. Hit him up a chance, I get
let him know. You know what I'm saying what I
got going on? He telling me what he got going on,
or even got him because we see the transition from
God as well.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, man, these boys, these boys growing up. Man, everybody, Man,
I'm trying to get there one day. Man, get that
with them.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Boy, how did you feel when gott he uh, you know,
publicly offered two million dollars than any lawyer who could
help you get out of prison?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I was like, you ain't nobody setting this sh I'm like, man, God,
I'm going there looking at him, counselors crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I heard what he said. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was, Man, I wanted to get out so bad.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Brother, But you know, I mean just the fact he
did that though, Just the.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Fact he did that like put me at ease. So
it's almost over, man, you know what I'm saying. Let
it's always good in there for people who got people
in there.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's always good.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like to show that type of stuffort, even if it's
just once a month.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You just let him know, like, bro, we miss you
out her.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's why I made we need you like fresh from
the fear, Like you gotta let these people know.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
These some of these people.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Feel like life is over bro, like they ain't never
getting out done. Nobody love them, you know what I'm saying.
So you gotta just reassure these people, like, look, bro,
life ain't the same without you, know what I'm saying,
Stay focused, coming to get you whatever it takes. And
that's just what I be trying to That's why I
feel like he did for me. That's and that's what
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I be trying to do.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So you felt forgotten for a little moment.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I want to say forgotten, but you know you you
can get caught up in that because it rubbed off.
Even though I probably got the most support, somebody else
probably don't got no support. So that had you thinking, like,
you're right man, you know what I'm saying. I remember
I was in there complaining about having ninety more age
(23:14):
and my bunkie ain't even ain't never getting.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Out you feed me. I'm like, why the hell they
put me here? To him? What I'm like, when you
getting out?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Because I'm in there, like, man, I got ninety it's
killing me, bro, I need to go now.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I'm like, when are you getting out?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
He ain bro got life? I'm like, what you know
what I'm saying? Then you get to think like that
was the strings man, like walat one.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Man, you feel me.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's all it takes, bro, All it takes you getting
there with the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
How important is male?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Very the most important thing, probably more important than phone calls.
Damn mal cause it's like, you know, somebody put that
effort into their time out. You know what I'm saying,
you smiling the whole letter.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Who wrote you that you were surprised that they actually
took the time out to write you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Uh, my man, it's Gotti, my homeboy. He wrote me
on a letter and said, like he had his name
on her said young and turn entertainment.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know what I'm saying. He wrote me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It surprised you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Cause, like I said, these people young in the streets.
Like you know what I'm saying, No for sure, like
because it's hard for me to write like you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I ain't damn herd.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know if I'm right, bro, Like unless it's
you know, you got the text and that now so
you can write off your phone. But to see him
actually put a letter in then everybody else saying like
you know, we need you. That's the only thing I wrote,
you know, I said that in the song, so they
just you know what I'm saying, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
They only wrote me a couple of times, but that
was all.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That was all I needed.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You know what I'm saying, All you need is one
letter from somebody.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You got somebody like that just right on one side on.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The record of Wrong right, you said you don't even
smoke anymore that cause of probation or you just want
to get to keep your Haaird clicked.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't do no lean or I don't do nothing
like cause of provation.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But anyway, I don't know if I be doing it anything. Yeah, no,
not nothing like I ain't even thought about it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
On the intro the principal, I was just gonna say
why the title Forever Us Never Then?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, you know what I'm saying, like like y'all saying,
like Detroit big right now?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You know you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Do everything and I feel like I'm a I want
to say, big enough person, but uh aware enough person
like that, I could say it like Forever Us Never
Then seen we did on the concert. You know what
I'm saying, y'all seen everybody can't hear the rock.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Or it's like let's do it. US is Detroit, Yeah,
that's Detroit.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
This is my homeboy, my family, US is just whoever
you wanted to be like forever us never then it
might not even beat them, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's how I wanted to put it on.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
The intro you talk about, well, the principal talks about
probation being a trap. And then you know, we also
saw you on social media being vocal about the conditions
that were going on in prison. So what's making you
want to speak out about that that?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Now, boy, it was a hard time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They had me in there and no mic awave you
gotta eat warm your food up in the shower like.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Imagine that. Imagine having to use the water and the
shower like. And even when I was complaining, like they
comeing in there, tearing my.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Room up, getting mad, I'm like, how y'all mad at
the conditions y'all got?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I was living in We already in jail. But you
know what I'm saying, how would you expect jail to be?
You know, it's jail, Like, don't what they tell you, like,
don't come here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You know what I'm saying, It ain't no, it ain't
gonna be a sweet it ain't gonna be a hotel.
So I'm like, you know, I took that consideration, like,
you're right, I should still humans though, Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Are you using any of the god these resources like
the Reform Alliance and all of that though may be
improving you the conditions of prisons in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Well, my principle, she like being on that. She going
back into prisons and stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right now we leaning on her man leaning on wallow Man.
You know, yeah, they got it going on. Man, they
gotta change it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You said something on that record with EStG Man. What's
the record called since when it's win? You said, you
got a chick who gives your head with two missing teeth.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I gotta like eat, like both her teeth missing, Yeah,
I said, like her like both her teeth missing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh so she got okay, she said, like both her teeth.
Oh all right? Because I was just like, why you
just talking body new teeth? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No, I was just like, you know, you know, when
you're growing up, you hear the old people like man, crackhead, don't.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Nobody get a head like girl no teeth? Like you
know what I'm saying. So I felt like that was
a little sleep.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I mean, you know, the life, man, it's something to that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's it's definitely something to that.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
All right.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
No, so the record with me, because I don't know
what's going on, it's going to go crazy. I definitely
like the features that you got on it. Rylo, I
liked the record with me. Talk to me about that
in any conversations that you got shared and tell them
the truth what you said.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Huh, as a woman, tell them what you didn't like.
All right, I ain't really damn man, you really be
doing too much.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Tell I think it's a song with megro maybe it's
a song after but you're like, shut up. It's like, yeah,
I fucked that bitch and he fucked that bitch. Yeah,
we fucked that bitch. You mad, we fucked that bitch.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
When you said that, I said, you're gonna be really
mad when you hear Dug say he don't fuck girls,
fuck nobody.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Girl. The more you fuck me, mom, I was just like,
all right, this is a lot, that's all.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
But I mean we was geeked up, man, you know
what I'm saying. It was like on them up timp
of beat. So I'm just in there going like, how
you mad at me? She fucking you mad at me?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He fucked? You know what I'm saying, It won't really
nothing to no particular.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That's a good question. Why are you mad now?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So I just don't love it?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I don't Why are you gonna switch it up?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Why are you mad at me?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
He fuck? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I get the bars, get it, I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But talk about working with me because I know you
guys both have had, you know, similar trials.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You going homie man?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You know what I'm saying, good dude came from like
similar places.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You know what I'm saying. When I was young, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Me was the first dude we kind of seeing doing this,
like hopping on Jess and Rose Royce's dirt bike bus
down watch, so you gotta always pay how much they
got like me, me did it first.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And you know you and Sexy Red got the record NPO.
You know that's a classic BT on cut record.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like I was just you know
when I heard it, like when I was thinking of
putting it on her. I'm like, who gonna be the
perfect person? I thought of her like she gotta be
on her, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I feel like music always circle back, like you know
what I'm saying, So I feel like going back. That
was a good one. I ain't hurt nobody. I heard
somebody use the title, but I ain't heard nobody actually.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Use that, you know what I'm saying. I feel like
the old people appreciate it. The old people, Yeah, like
the older you.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Do you hate the Internet?
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't want to say I hate it. I just
probably hate how I was used, Like I don't know
how to use it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I might get on there in a wild, but I
ain't been doing it, like I just talked shit now,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But it's like it's tricky, man, Like internet changed the
well life.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Because it seemed like every every so often they come
at you about something like the last thing I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Saw was I don't know what they beef with me.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You was not playing with your daughter and they started
saying you and your daughter was the.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Same, Like yeah, like, I don't really get too mad
at that type of stuff. I don't get mad at
jokes at all. I just get mad at like that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Just the fire.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like you know what I'm saying, A joke is the joke.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I can take a joke, any joke really, But the
crazy stuff I be like, you know what I'm saying,
don't really, But it's the Internet, so you you're always
gonna be opening that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Being like a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, they always gonna come at you with this,
They always gonna come at you with that. So you
gotta think these people ain't got nothing else to do, man,
nothing else to do. Like you said that the beats
and hip hop have declined. Think you think producers are
are not making beats so good caliber anymore?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I feel like they ain't trying. Like I remember,
we used to go to.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
The studio, used to take us like two three two
three beats. We picking a song and it's almost probably
gonna be a hit, Like you know what I'm saying. Now,
we in there listening for hours, two hours, just going
through them, and it's just like, man, I feel like
I did good though my tape, Like I feel like
(33:05):
I always do, but it took me longer than they
usually take me, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
hopefully it get better. I've been hearing like music, music
and all like just been declining the music says, the
more people listening, Like I just been hearing like people
(33:25):
just I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
People putting on trash, not putting enough effort into it.
Yeah yeah, you know you see who doing or not?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The girls shifting over, like girls putting out the heat
like a it's then the like ay thing they put
out a heat almost like.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
You know what I'm certain girls like it's like we
competing with them.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I think because they seem to be having more fun.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah you know what I mean, Like like the dudes
are still being too tough a little it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
When I was talking to somebody, I'm like, man, what
they should do is how to dudes do? What you
mean like sexy you need to go make a mixed
tabe with Glorilla?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like they need to now. I
was telling guy, like they need to do it while
they can do it, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like how Drake was how did deal with Future? They
get the record Future that he did one with twenty one,
you know what I'm saying, Like they I don't know
if they think like that, but that's why I was like,
that's how you you really put your foot.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
On this ship.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Why you didn't use Glorilla instead of sexy Rade, Like
it's just a matter of like.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
No, we got we got glow, we got on a
few songs.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
It just was like she ain't.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Going no, I ain't got her on my I ain't
got on that, but me and her got a few songs,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And you know it's just a matter of balance.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Like.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I think doing her thing.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
I think when it comes to your point about production,
sometimes production carries the beat for certain artists, you know,
sometimes the artist carry Somebody told me that.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
About Future, like, uh, this guy, this producer. I'm like,
I'm like, man, I don't really been liking to beat.
We was talking about this. I'm telling how he like
Bro like PLO can make any song like all Bro.
Like you know what I'm saying. He was saying like that,
I'm like, I got what he was saying, right, Maybe
(35:30):
I should start rapping on anything I see. God, he's
not on the album. God didn't want to. God don't
want to rap no more because got he's done done.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
No I want that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I feel like God he always gonna be you know
with me, like he will never you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
It's just like it just was. I have so many
other songs features.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Bro, it was hard noar and this song, this stuff
down because I don't be liking to put that many
songs out because I be like, Bro, they gonna skip
over these songs. I'm gonna be mad, like you know
what I'm saying. But now that I put it out
like that, I'm kind of glad because I'm seeing people
like man, no skips, they like front the back, they
like every song, you know what I'm saying. They like, Look,
(36:15):
these are our favorites. But Bro, we listen to the
whole thing. Bro, we like the whole tape, and that
be keeping other people probably be having bigger songs than
me on they tape. But God he was telling me like,
by you putting out good music, your tape, be up,
your tape, be on the church a lot longer, Like
(36:35):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna keep that. Man. I
just want to make good music instead of big songs.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Did you see uh? I gotta ask because you from Detroit?
Did you see Skiller Baby say that? Most people in
Detroit wouldn't say Eminem is the best rapper.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I ain't see him say that, but that's probably you
know what I'm saying. How they feel?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Why just because it's different generation or or not relatable? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Probably both.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Some people ain't like the new kids don't even know
about him and them, Like, you know what I'm saying,
How would they? You would have to like really be
a music person, like to go back?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I know. So that's always my card.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
When somebody get to bringing up somebody from somewhere else,
I'm like, yeah, we got him them.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
You feel me.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I feel like he did.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He did go, but he also didn't make you know,
he didn't make street music. Yeah, probably he.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Made deep music.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I feel like listening to that type of stuff is
the reason I can make songs like need You and
Fresh in the Fits because I always was them type
of songs like.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I go listen to Toy Soldiers or staying like You.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It was my favorite songs. So when it's my turn
to make real song.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like I already you know, I already damn there know
how to challenge it, like because I know it.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I'm looking for I'm looking for a stand type of
vibe or I'm looking for a toy, you.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Know what I'm saying. And people probably ain't. I mean,
you know, it's a new generation of kids.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
They probably don't even I ain't even probably listening to
eminem nothing, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Skiller Baby also said something else and you said something
earlier that made me think about it about the Detroit rapper,
like becoming that next next person. And he said he
don't feel like the trait rappers are as consistent as
they should be.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You feel that way, Yeah, but bro, I don't know
if people know I heard it is to get a banger,
like you know what I'm saying, it's it ain't that easy.
Like these people trying, I feel like they're dropping the music.
It just ain't connecting. It just ain't a big song.
(38:47):
They can't help it. We can't help it. Like all
you you just gotta do your best, man, you know
what I'm saying, Keep trying, man.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Like if you going there with the mentality, I'm trying
to make a banger. How often do you act and
we come out with one?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Honestly, Like, I go on there like I'm trying to
make a good start. Well, I go in there like
I'm trying to make a banger for the studio.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know what I'm saying. Say, if we all in
the studio.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I'm trying to make a banger for y'all. You know
what I'm saying, And hopefully you know what I'm saying,
it connected with the world when you did.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
We paid, and maybe that was the mindset, like let's
just turn up in the studio.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Hell no, I ain't even think. But sure I ain't
think none of them No.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Wow, I hell I made we pay, Like I was
telling somebody, we felt like when I maybe paid, I
was kind of uncomfortable rapping on that type of beat
because it's so slow.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
It just won my bound.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I didn't see I didn't see it with with that
one either, because it's so slow. When that first kick hit,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, I want my bounds.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
So me and baby in there, we just freestyling, really,
you know what I'm saying. So as I'm freestyling, as
he's freestyle, just going back and I'm like, before I
go broke like Jock, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I say that, and he like, you gotta put that
on there.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And I.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Was just saying it like I was just trying to
say some Atlanta stuff. So befo, I go broke like
Jock that dog like and he like put that on there.
And I had left that song alone, like we had
rapped all through the song.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
He came back to it like, look, let's put a
hook on her.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So he must have like like this, you know, he
must have felt like he was like, let's put a
hook on there.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
We go back in, and that's why I came in
like still a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
If you listen to it, you can hear me like
still a bed in my last shoon dice in the hood.
That's the whole new added parton his verse really came
after that, you know what I'm saying. It was straight
me his verse. So he like asked some more, then
we're gonna be the hook. And when we got to
the hook, I'm like, yah.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we paid. I'm like, hell no, Like
you know what I'm saying, I'm like you like that.
I ain't like that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I feel
like it was just so cheesy. You know what I'm saying. Man,
you know that's like you just never know.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Bro ran in the job after that. No, No, I
don't know what Jack Drop might try. Ship been talking over.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
There that man. I'm like, Bro, I ain't got no problem.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Bro, God damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You and Baby he tells you down your bed your
whole bid for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
But even then, you know, like I said, jail the
dark place. So you don't want to keep calling people
living life. You You know what I'm saying. You might
shake in and want to say three weeks. I'll just
take it in so he won't get out a time,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
So, so you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
As soon as you got out, that's what I thought.
I saw him give you some money or something.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yes, you got me something got it you straight?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
How much though they gave you?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
By that me? What all together? O?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
K k ok?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah you so Baby gave you a few hundred thousand
future gave you a few thousand future nigga?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Sound like the I R s over there, don't give
me nothing?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Did Baby give you the money and then pull out
the dice and say let's get it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Me and hand don't even shoot dice against each other,
we go against other people.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, you're just too good, looked too cool, you know
what I'm saying, too cool.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
There was a rumor man that you and all said
that got into a fight over a dice game.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Any truth today?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I mean, we ain't getting a fire. I say we
got into an argument. M You know the Internet like
Pip and.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
He turned it into you got robbed and you.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Know how it be.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Man, I ain't get robbed. Man, I'm not the type
of gutta even go for that type of ship.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
You know, you know the Internet, the Internet, man.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You know even these people man, they like play into
this ship how they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
You just gotta let these be bad as ship.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Many you in JFL man, trying to prove a point,
trying to prove who you not.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You know what I'm saying, something like whatever happened?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
You know what I'm saying, y'all know who I am.
You know what I'm saying, y'all know what I'm going
from is the one you and all sai. No, I
ain't got against nobody though, honestly, I do my own thing.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know what I'm saying. I'll be with who I
be with. Let everybody else get off all they get on.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So who would you rather run into? Offset of Young Jack? Nah?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I'm talking for two Doug, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
The album never outright. You answer that one, God's crazy.
I appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
See you, brother, stay focused.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
It's four two Doug.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody is Steve j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamage, the
guy we are the Breakfast Club. Nalla is with us
today with the Nalla what's up? And we got a
special guest in the building. His debut album, Forever Us
Never Them is out right now, Ladies and gentlemen from
Detroit with up Dough forty two Doug, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm all right, man, taking it easy.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's not crazy to even say this your debut album.
I know you got a whole catalog.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I know you know how i'd be.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How you feeling, though, I'm all right?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
No chilling man, tie it too early for you.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
He sounds sad. I was out all night man.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
At the club. Yeah, okay, okay with a script club.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, Scarlets, no, some other another club. Know what this called?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What is the club in New York? Now? Don't queens?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
He was probably Queen Queens, ye, yeah, Queen's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
What's the difference between the debut album and all the
other projects you've been putting out?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like, what's the difference?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I guess the label However, they do it like, I
don't know the different I thought it was based on
like the most songs, but.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I guess this is my first ALB man. I hope
y'all appreciate it. You know what I'm saying. I put
hard work into it, but did my best you think?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, do you feel like it's a restart?
Because when you had your records out before, you was
on fire, right every record in the club, I mean
the joint with Future, the joint with everybody baby, and
then you got locked up, So I don't think you
could really enjoy how hot you were out there. So
(01:46):
do you feel like you have to? It's almost like
starting over. Yeah, I feel like I'm building like my
momentum back up. I feel like people wanted to see
if I could produce you know, the same type of music,
good music, and I feel like I answered that.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You definitely shop on this album.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I remember last time you were here you talked
about perfecting your rap skills while you was locked up.
Did this last bit help you shopping your skills even more?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah? It just gave me.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It gave me more stuff to talk about, like more
balance I thought about.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I had a whole book like what I thought.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I was going to do, you know what I'm saying,
how I wanted to go by it. And when I
got out, I'm like, man, scratch that, you know what
I'm saying. I wanted to chill, I wanted to have
I wanted to see my kids. And then by the
time I was ready to go in the studio, I
felt like, you know, I was ready.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Prior to this album, when you did have like the
single Circulating, did you have a different project in mind, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I was gonna call it love Don't Live Here, And
I was just making songs about you know, stuff like that,
relationship stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And what happened was with somebody and y'all broke up.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I ain't breaking up.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We just was, you know, up down, you know what
I'm saying, so ithing like and you know that's time
when we you know, got back, right.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
She didn't want to be with you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure she did that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It just was like, you know, you mad you in there,
not even that, because I was gonna call it that
before I went to jail, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So, and when I went to jail.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Her being there for me like kind of scratched that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I didn't about to drop a disc album.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
No man, you want this out.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It was just like a different what was fame and
like just the motion you were getting was that like
stopping you from being able to give the love like
your partner was looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, I say, like.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Just most more so lifestyleed like being out in different states,
you know what I'm saying. Trying to take that into consideration,
and it's just like it's a lot of stuff going on,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So it's like you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Actually gotta make that time. Like so somebody probably feels
like you ain't making that time. You know what I'm saying.
You like, well, I'm doing this. I might do be
doing this, but I'm doing all this, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm like, man, but I got right
right having.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Having a girlfriend while doing the bid and make doing
the bit tougher.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Hell yeah, Cause you like what's going on, you know
what I'm saying, You ain't there, so you like somebody
might be there, man, somebody gotta be there, that's what
you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Like, but.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's up to her like to keep reassuring you like, no,
this ain't some girls. Let you know, Like look, man,
as soon as you step foot in there, I'm gone damn.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah that's how I be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But you heard you heard the over support though when
you were locked up, I mean people trying to get
you out. They were putting the money.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Support because he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Was in there only No, I was in a hole
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So either way, when I was feeling a long, like
I can't talk on the phone, I can't you know
what I'm saying, I just going through a.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Lot fighting or no.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I was like certain jails are putting me in the hole,
like just because who I am. Like they say it's
a security rich to the compound, like everybody walking up
on pictures, they feel like to see pictures like it's
the club, yeah, something like that. But they like, I
ain't gonna say pictures. I just want to kick it.
(05:52):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna say pictures.
I just want to kick it in. And they'd be
paying attention, like to the CEO's getting too close and
they be like, we can't hear you out. You're worried
about your girl, your girls should have been worried about
you knocking off the female CEOs. That sounds like I
want too much worried about because you know, you know
(06:14):
you be like, you know, I ain't there forever, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm worried about nobody. I
was like, you know, I hope you stay on the
right track. That's for everybody, though, Like even with your friend,
you like y'all stay focused after you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Take care of the kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You're doing what you can. You still gotta take care.
That's the most important thing. You still gotta take care
of everybody from there your mama, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So, how did your mom feel when she heard that
my mama record off the for us?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Never did Mom?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I mean she you know, she just rocking with everything.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She really ain't gonna too much focus on one song.
She listening to a She gonna send me a text
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
This new album is hard. You know what I'm saying.
I'm proud of you. Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is that run the intro?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, that's my principal.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Principal, Yeah, what was the call that you gave your
principal that made her come back with that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So my principal, she like she do like speaking, like
motivational speaking. So when I was young, I had went
to prison, like fifteen, I had a warrant, you know,
and she the only person that gave me to turn
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myself in.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm like, I ain't going there.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I'm young, you know what I'm saying, Like, hell no,
I ain't going there. She called, she came to my house,
like I told my mama, like I got a friend
in the police office.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
He could turn her stuff into They gonna make sure
they don't touch him, like he gonna go straight to
the get him a bond, and y'all can get me
back out. So then that happened. I got back and
they're going to prison. And while I was in prison,
my first time, she went to prison.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
To principal, Yeah, is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
To prison?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I want to say, was it money line something like
some of the numbers between them lines. But she ended
up going to prison, federal prison, and she you know,
she when she got out, she was writing me, you
know what I'm saying, just telling me like, I'm proud
of because when I got out, I started rapping, you
know what I'm saying, and I took off like kind
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of quick. You put money on her books. I was
in jail, tell me, yeah, I was in jail. So
we probably got out about the same time. Anyway, we
was connecting social media. She I'm proud of, you know,
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And then I end.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Up going back to prison and she's just writing me
eight week eight two weeks telling me I did, sending
me stuff about Shack, how you take care of his
finally on her you know, stuff like that, sending me books,
sending me songs. She thinks I should redoing just like no,
I think you should let me talk on your as.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, so this is the last time you went to
prison in twenty twenty two. Yeah, you didn't want to
turn yourself in there neither.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't blame it, but not wanting to go to prison.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I mean, damn, though I don't know what I had.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I mean, I ain't gonna lie bro coming from like
just coming from the hood, Like, bro, turn yourself into
jail gonna be the hard gotta be the hardest thing
walking into somebody jail knowing it's gonna be a minute,
Like and I.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Don't feel like nobody likes follow that. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I should have did it because it was six months,
but you know it was hard though you had your
career six months, but it would have been six months
if you turned upon it probably would have been ninety
days ideally, like because we're halfway house like home min.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But you know, I didn't know about the federal girlment.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All I know about the state in the state in Michigan,
it's day for day.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So I'm like, it's like God, so.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You like, I'm on fire right now. I'm getting all
this money right now. You know what I'm saying, Bro,
I probably had like two million dollars in shows like
just lined up.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So I'm like, you know what I'm saying, this one
that catch me if you can't, damn.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
You still regretted, Yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I just regretted the whole situation, Like yeah, when they
tell me, you know I had I had a sweet situation. First,
my approbation went, she was leaving me pretty much do
my thing. She was leaving me pretty much travel. I
really you know sometime I like they be on my
bab like I really fucked up.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like you know, I messed up like this.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Even in j I two people, my judge, he was
so hard and I used to be like he really
he really let me go.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You know what I'm saying, I really like just messed
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But I mean that's that's part of growth though, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Sure you're older now, so you understand, like, you know what,
I couldn't handled that a different.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Way, for sure, I wish I would have.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's a line on your eye.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I can't remember who he was rapping about, but you
was like, man, I bet you he wished he took
that ten.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, skip, he got offered ten years and ended up
betting thirty Jesus yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And it just like you know, even with him, he like.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
He felt like if I would have took that years,
I probably would still end up doing thirty because I
want to learn nothing, you know what I'm saying. So
he like this time, being in here for this amount
of time made me like curve how I want to live,
Like made me see what I needed to do, what
(12:18):
I was doing wrong, see what you need, you need
to do what you do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying As far as everybody who.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Was he to you? My brother Okay, yeah, how long
you're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
He been in the earth for fourteen damn man.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it just been like we all went to jail
two thous eleven. Like we all went to jail. And
I feel like once I changed, like all right, luck
everybody started like because a few people had life and
(12:54):
they didn't came home like from life. Like you know
what I'm saying that that's probably the hardest thing you're
gonna do. That's why the hardest thing you're gonna do, Like,
and I feel like all it take is like one
person just to switch it up absolutely everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Look no, for sure, for sure it's looking good right now.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Now when you got home, were you surprised at how
Detroit is now? Because I think when you got locked
up Detroit, that seemed like everybody was against everybody. But
now when when I go to Detroit, I'm seeing those
seeing people, everybody partying together. It seems like it's more
welcoming the artists. And they gotta taste that money community,
they gotta taste that money.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like they don't funk the money up.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, Like I always used to tell people like I
probably would be you know few and with somebody who
probably ain't one doing as much, so they really ain't
got nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. Once
they got tasted that money, they like for what everybody
like what we're doing, like, you know, let's get this money.
(13:56):
Like everybody feel like they're a song away, everybody getting
followers up, everybody and their views up.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I was telling.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Somebody like somebody gotta like be the next person like
to go crazy, like don't just let it be close.
Don't just you know what I'm saying, don't just let
the last thing be like, oh they were so close,
like you gonna go crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I feel like it's a few of y'all now for sure,
you baby baby face, Like it's a bunch of y'all
that seemed.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like sure getting money to.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Why didn't you make a fresh from the fans the
first song on that album?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Man, you think that you think that should have been
Somebody told me spend that back should have been the
first time. But I ain't put it on there what
I wanted to be. I want to Need You to
be the first song. Yeah, it's a song on their card.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That was that a tough record to right, yeah, because
it was like by my people.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It was like those type of songs like you gotta
catch that cadence to write like how It Come On?
That was like the hardest part to record, Like how
It Come On? It's a line where I had to
say it just a certain way where I ain't like
it like something in there saying it like you know
what I'm saying. Then when I recorded, I gotta double it,
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like so I'm trying to make it man, I just
I just said I had worked hard on that, so
something like last minute, I'm like, I tell God in race,
like I feel like this should be the intro.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I'm saying. They like we can't change nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, need you to. It's too sentimental to be the
first song. I feel like that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But I like to start my projects like that, like
you know what I'm saying, Like even Freedom Boys, I
started like or like with a Jill call, like you
know what I'm saying like this, but the intro it
had to grow on me. You know what I'm saying.
I'm seeing people reactions to it. They like they're like no,
we like.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We like what what need you?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Is?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That gonna be a tough record to perform, like when
you're on stage.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know, Uh, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I ain't never thought about that, Like you might cry
dougout that. I mean, that'll be a good a good
moment though if it is. You know what I'm saying,
everybody felt like that towards somebody. You know what I'm saying,
somebody adn't lost a friend, so you know, hopefully we
can catch that, me and the fans.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And I read somewhere too, you know, talking about the
jail again that you were when you were locked up,
you didn't like receiving fan bail?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Should it bothered you?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well, they won't let me get it that much.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They'll keep it from me. So, like I said, a
lot of time I was isolated. So when I do
get it, I just read it like see what something
talking about? And I asked a lot of letters. You know,
people probably give my letters because they weren't sending them out.
But I wrote back a lot of people like just
telling them, like how I was feeling.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
They're like you coming.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Close to her, you know, and I appreciated it. I
tried to answer some many as I could some people.
It's like I'm coming to your you know what I'm saying.
You know, you try to people take their time out,
like even your friends ain't gonna do that as much.
And that was another thing you did that was pretty big.
When you got home. You did that huge concert in
the city and brought the city out, people working. People
(17:21):
were grateful and thankful for that. How was that? How
was that reaction?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It was crazy just seeing it come go, cause you
never know what you can do until you do it.
Won't nobody believe you can do it until it's done,
Like you know what I'm saying, So all the way
up until the week they like, you know what I'm saying,
he ain't finna. And it wasn't really about selling it out.
It was just about putting on the show. Like everybody
(17:48):
think my motive was like I want to just see
if I'm instead of it out all, I'm like, no,
it won't ever about selling it out. It was just
about putting on this show, Like see what type of
show we could put on.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You brought so many people to the city, so many
people out that day. Were you surprised so many people
showed up?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, I was fan.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean, but why you clearly got fans, you got
getting all this mail in jail, you got mad support
from people on the outside.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Why would you be surprised.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Because the trade a tough city, man.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
New York is tough city too, like out of reformed
here before me and baby like they down there, like
you know what I'm saying, they ain't gonna be going crazy,
like you just gotta take it for what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Detroit, they're a little better.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Than New York on that, Like first they are, you
know what I'm saying, They get some type of effort.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
New York they're just too fresh.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So and there I'm like, if they comings, they gonna
go crazy, you know what I'm saying. And when I'm
picking the artists, we like, who's gonna get them to
go crazy? And I'm picking this urger I'm picking. But
I had some good, good, good artists. I know, Jeezy,
I know me, you know what I'm saying, bullsy like
(19:04):
and everybody, I mean everybody. Bro that came was like, Bro,
it's the best concert we ever. They're like, y'all want
to let us sit down? Like soon we thought we
were finna sit down, all right, you suld sit down somebody,
you know what I'm saying, We can chill on it.
Another person came out with Higgs, like and you know
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what I'm saying. Now I'm trying to do it again,
and it's like, how do you compep with that?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Or do you even try to compete with that?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean, you could have a Doug trustable at this
point in Detroit, the city something every year, Doug day something.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But do you think they're gonna get tired now if
you keep bringing new artists?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So how do I do it? Do I bring new
artists a year?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I would think? So?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Yeah, bring you ortists.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean the same thing what gott he does every
year when he does did that show when everybody comes
on out meet did it a couple of times in Philly?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, Drake got the OO, Drake got the Ovio Fest.
And then it gives you an opportunity to introduce new
Detroit artists every year.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah that one, I'm uh see this year I might
try to focus on like the newer artists, you know
what I'm saying, the newer artists of the world. That
was about like just I put.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
My all in that one.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know what I'm saying. This year, I feel like
I know what they won't like. I feel I could
do it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I can say that you had Gez and you've always
spoke about admiring Jeezy'll work together. He on the new album,
The Being that record. When you look at how he
evolved as a man, Yeah, if that inspire you, do
you look at that and be like, oh okay, I
see what Yeah, like niggas can go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Man, Yeah, watching jez bro you know, Jeez my favorite artist.
So it's like, you know, I just keep task. I
don't trying to you know what I'm saying. I try
to be on it too much. I just be keeping
tasks and I just be you know, I've seen dropping books,
I've seen you know, even having found you know what
I'm saying, trying new stuff. So you know, I just
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admired it from afarm man.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's my guy. Hit him up a chance, I get
let him know. You know what I'm saying what I
got going on? He telling me what he got going on,
or even got him because we see the transition from
God as well.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, man, these boys, these boys growing up. Man, everybody, Man,
I'm trying to get there one day. Man, get that
with them.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Boy, how did you feel when gott he uh, you know,
publicly offered two million dollars than any lawyer who could
help you get out of prison?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I was like, you ain't nobody setting this sh I'm like, man, God,
I'm going there looking at him, counselors crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I heard what he said. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was, Man, I wanted to get out so bad.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Brother, But you know, I mean just the fact he
did that though, Just the.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Fact he did that like put me at ease. So
it's almost over, man, you know what I'm saying. Let
it's always good in there for people who got people
in there.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's always good.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like to show that type of stuffort, even if it's
just once a month.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You just let him know, like, bro, we miss you
out her.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's why I made we need you like fresh from
the fear, Like you gotta let these people know.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
These some of these people.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Feel like life is over bro, like they ain't never
getting out done. Nobody love them, you know what I'm saying.
So you gotta just reassure these people, like, look, bro,
life ain't the same without you, know what I'm saying,
Stay focused, coming to get you whatever it takes. And
that's just what I be trying to That's why I
feel like he did for me. That's and that's what
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I be trying to do.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So you felt forgotten for a little moment.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I want to say forgotten, but you know you you
can get caught up in that because it rubbed off.
Even though I probably got the most support, somebody else
probably don't got no support. So that had you thinking, like,
you're right man, you know what I'm saying. I remember
I was in there complaining about having ninety more age
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and my bunkie ain't even ain't never getting.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Out you feed me. I'm like, why the hell they
put me here? To him? What I'm like, when you
getting out?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Because I'm in there, like, man, I got ninety it's
killing me, bro, I need to go now.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I'm like, when are you getting out?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
He ain bro got life? I'm like, what you know
what I'm saying? Then you get to think like that
was the strings man, like walat one.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Man, you feel me.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's all it takes, bro, All it takes you getting
there with the wrong person.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
How important is male?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Very the most important thing, probably more important than phone calls.
Damn mal cause it's like, you know, somebody put that
effort into their time out. You know what I'm saying,
you smiling the whole letter.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Who wrote you that you were surprised that they actually
took the time out to write you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Uh, my man, it's Gotti, my homeboy. He wrote me
on a letter and said, like he had his name
on her said young and turn entertainment.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know what I'm saying. He wrote me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It surprised you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Cause, like I said, these people young in the streets.
Like you know what I'm saying, No for sure, like
because it's hard for me to write like you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I ain't damn herd.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know if I'm right, bro, Like unless it's
you know, you got the text and that now so
you can write off your phone. But to see him
actually put a letter in then everybody else saying like
you know, we need you. That's the only thing I wrote,
you know, I said that in the song, so they
just you know what I'm saying, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
They only wrote me a couple of times, but that
was all.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That was all I needed.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You know what I'm saying, All you need is one
letter from somebody.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You got somebody like that just right on one side on.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The record of Wrong right, you said you don't even
smoke anymore that cause of probation or you just want
to get to keep your Haaird clicked.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't do no lean or I don't do nothing
like cause of provation.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But anyway, I don't know if I be doing it anything. Yeah, no,
not nothing like I ain't even thought about it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
On the intro the principal, I was just gonna say
why the title Forever Us Never Then?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, you know what I'm saying, like like y'all saying,
like Detroit big right now?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You know you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Do everything and I feel like I'm a I want
to say, big enough person, but uh aware enough person
like that, I could say it like Forever Us Never
Then seen we did on the concert. You know what
I'm saying, y'all seen everybody can't hear the rock.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Or it's like let's do it. US is Detroit, Yeah,
that's Detroit.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
This is my homeboy, my family, US is just whoever
you wanted to be like forever us never then it
might not even beat them, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's how I wanted to put it on.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
The intro you talk about, well, the principal talks about
probation being a trap. And then you know, we also
saw you on social media being vocal about the conditions
that were going on in prison. So what's making you
want to speak out about that that?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Now, boy, it was a hard time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They had me in there and no mic awave you
gotta eat warm your food up in the shower like.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Imagine that. Imagine having to use the water and the
shower like. And even when I was complaining, like they
comeing in there, tearing my.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Room up, getting mad, I'm like, how y'all mad at
the conditions y'all got?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I was living in We already in jail. But you
know what I'm saying, how would you expect jail to be?
You know, it's jail, Like, don't what they tell you, like,
don't come here.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You know what I'm saying, It ain't no, it ain't
gonna be a sweet it ain't gonna be a hotel.
So I'm like, you know, I took that consideration, like,
you're right, I should still humans though, Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Are you using any of the god these resources like
the Reform Alliance and all of that though may be
improving you the conditions of prisons in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Well, my principle, she like being on that. She going
back into prisons and stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right now we leaning on her man leaning on wallow Man.
You know, yeah, they got it going on. Man, they
gotta change it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You said something on that record with EStG Man. What's
the record called since when it's win? You said, you
got a chick who gives your head with two missing teeth.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I gotta like eat, like both her teeth missing, Yeah,
I said, like her like both her teeth missing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh so she got okay, she said, like both her teeth.
Oh all right? Because I was just like, why you
just talking body new teeth? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No, I was just like, you know, you know, when
you're growing up, you hear the old people like man, crackhead, don't.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Nobody get a head like girl no teeth? Like you
know what I'm saying. So I felt like that was
a little sleep.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I mean, you know, the life, man, it's something to that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's it's definitely something to that.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
All right.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
No, so the record with me, because I don't know
what's going on, it's going to go crazy. I definitely
like the features that you got on it. Rylo, I
liked the record with me. Talk to me about that
in any conversations that you got shared and tell them
the truth what you said.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Huh, as a woman, tell them what you didn't like.
All right, I ain't really damn man, you really be
doing too much.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Tell I think it's a song with megro maybe it's
a song after but you're like, shut up. It's like, yeah,
I fucked that bitch and he fucked that bitch. Yeah,
we fucked that bitch. You mad, we fucked that bitch.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
When you said that, I said, you're gonna be really
mad when you hear Dug say he don't fuck girls,
fuck nobody.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Girl. The more you fuck me, mom, I was just like,
all right, this is a lot, that's all.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
But I mean we was geeked up, man, you know
what I'm saying. It was like on them up timp
of beat. So I'm just in there going like, how
you mad at me? She fucking you mad at me?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He fucked? You know what I'm saying, It won't really
nothing to no particular.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That's a good question. Why are you mad now?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So I just don't love it?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I don't Why are you gonna switch it up?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Why are you mad at me?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
He fuck? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I get the bars, get it, I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But talk about working with me because I know you
guys both have had, you know, similar trials.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You going homie man?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You know what I'm saying, good dude came from like
similar places.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You know what I'm saying. When I was young, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Me was the first dude we kind of seeing doing this,
like hopping on Jess and Rose Royce's dirt bike bus
down watch, so you gotta always pay how much they
got like me, me did it first.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And you know you and Sexy Red got the record NPO.
You know that's a classic BT on cut record.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like I was just you know
when I heard it, like when I was thinking of
putting it on her. I'm like, who gonna be the
perfect person? I thought of her like she gotta be
on her, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I feel like music always circle back, like you know
what I'm saying, So I feel like going back. That
was a good one. I ain't hurt nobody. I heard
somebody use the title, but I ain't heard nobody actually.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Use that, you know what I'm saying. I feel like
the old people appreciate it. The old people, Yeah, like
the older you.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Do you hate the Internet?
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't want to say I hate it. I just
probably hate how I was used, Like I don't know
how to use it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I might get on there in a wild, but I
ain't been doing it, like I just talked shit now,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But it's like it's tricky, man, Like internet changed the
well life.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Because it seemed like every every so often they come
at you about something like the last thing I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Saw was I don't know what they beef with me.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You was not playing with your daughter and they started
saying you and your daughter was the.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Same, Like yeah, like, I don't really get too mad
at that type of stuff. I don't get mad at
jokes at all. I just get mad at like that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Just the fire.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like you know what I'm saying, A joke is the joke.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I can take a joke, any joke really, But the
crazy stuff I be like, you know what I'm saying,
don't really, But it's the Internet, so you you're always
gonna be opening that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Being like a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, they always gonna come at you with this,
They always gonna come at you with that. So you
gotta think these people ain't got nothing else to do, man,
nothing else to do. Like you said that the beats
and hip hop have declined. Think you think producers are
are not making beats so good caliber anymore?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I feel like they ain't trying. Like I remember,
we used to go to.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
The studio, used to take us like two three two
three beats. We picking a song and it's almost probably
gonna be a hit, Like you know what I'm saying. Now,
we in there listening for hours, two hours, just going
through them, and it's just like, man, I feel like
I did good though my tape, Like I feel like
(33:05):
I always do, but it took me longer than they
usually take me, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
hopefully it get better. I've been hearing like music, music
and all like just been declining the music says, the
more people listening, Like I just been hearing like people
(33:25):
just I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
People putting on trash, not putting enough effort into it.
Yeah yeah, you know you see who doing or not?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The girls shifting over, like girls putting out the heat
like a it's then the like ay thing they put
out a heat almost like.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
You know what I'm certain girls like it's like we
competing with them.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I think because they seem to be having more fun.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah you know what I mean, Like like the dudes
are still being too tough a little it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
When I was talking to somebody, I'm like, man, what
they should do is how to dudes do? What you
mean like sexy you need to go make a mixed
tabe with Glorilla?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like they need to now. I
was telling guy, like they need to do it while
they can do it, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like how Drake was how did deal with Future? They
get the record Future that he did one with twenty one,
you know what I'm saying, Like they I don't know
if they think like that, but that's why I was like,
that's how you you really put your foot.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
On this ship.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Why you didn't use Glorilla instead of sexy Rade, Like
it's just a matter of like.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
No, we got we got glow, we got on a
few songs.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
It just was like she ain't.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Going no, I ain't got her on my I ain't
got on that, but me and her got a few songs,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And you know it's just a matter of balance.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Like.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I think doing her thing.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
I think when it comes to your point about production,
sometimes production carries the beat for certain artists, you know,
sometimes the artist carry Somebody told me that.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
About Future, like, uh, this guy, this producer. I'm like,
I'm like, man, I don't really been liking to beat.
We was talking about this. I'm telling how he like
Bro like PLO can make any song like all Bro.
Like you know what I'm saying. He was saying like that,
I'm like, I got what he was saying, right, Maybe
(35:30):
I should start rapping on anything I see. God, he's
not on the album. God didn't want to. God don't
want to rap no more because got he's done done.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
No I want that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I feel like God he always gonna be you know
with me, like he will never you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
It's just like it just was. I have so many
other songs features.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Bro, it was hard noar and this song, this stuff
down because I don't be liking to put that many
songs out because I be like, Bro, they gonna skip
over these songs. I'm gonna be mad, like you know
what I'm saying. But now that I put it out
like that, I'm kind of glad because I'm seeing people
like man, no skips, they like front the back, they
like every song, you know what I'm saying. They like, Look,
(36:15):
these are our favorites. But Bro, we listen to the
whole thing. Bro, we like the whole tape, and that
be keeping other people probably be having bigger songs than
me on they tape. But God he was telling me like,
by you putting out good music, your tape, be up,
your tape, be on the church a lot longer, Like
(36:35):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna keep that. Man. I
just want to make good music instead of big songs.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Did you see uh? I gotta ask because you from Detroit?
Did you see Skiller Baby say that? Most people in
Detroit wouldn't say Eminem is the best rapper.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I ain't see him say that, but that's probably you
know what I'm saying. How they feel?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Why just because it's different generation or or not relatable? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Probably both.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Some people ain't like the new kids don't even know
about him and them, Like, you know what I'm saying,
How would they? You would have to like really be
a music person, like to go back?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I know. So that's always my card.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
When somebody get to bringing up somebody from somewhere else,
I'm like, yeah, we got him them.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
You feel me.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I feel like he did.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He did go, but he also didn't make you know,
he didn't make street music. Yeah, probably he.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Made deep music.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I feel like listening to that type of stuff is
the reason I can make songs like need You and
Fresh in the Fits because I always was them type
of songs like.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I go listen to Toy Soldiers or staying like You.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It was my favorite songs. So when it's my turn
to make real song.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like I already you know, I already damn there know
how to challenge it, like because I know it.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I'm looking for I'm looking for a stand type of
vibe or I'm looking for a toy, you.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Know what I'm saying. And people probably ain't. I mean,
you know, it's a new generation of kids.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
They probably don't even I ain't even probably listening to
eminem nothing, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Skiller Baby also said something else and you said something
earlier that made me think about it about the Detroit rapper,
like becoming that next next person. And he said he
don't feel like the trait rappers are as consistent as
they should be.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You feel that way, Yeah, but bro, I don't know
if people know I heard it is to get a banger,
like you know what I'm saying, it's it ain't that easy.
Like these people trying, I feel like they're dropping the music.
It just ain't connecting. It just ain't a big song.
(38:47):
They can't help it. We can't help it. Like all
you you just gotta do your best, man, you know
what I'm saying, Keep trying, man.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Like if you going there with the mentality, I'm trying
to make a banger. How often do you act and
we come out with one?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Honestly, Like, I go on there like I'm trying to
make a good start. Well, I go in there like
I'm trying to make a banger for the studio.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know what I'm saying. Say, if we all in
the studio.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I'm trying to make a banger for y'all. You know
what I'm saying, And hopefully you know what I'm saying,
it connected with the world when you did.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
We paid, and maybe that was the mindset, like let's
just turn up in the studio.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Hell no, I ain't even think. But sure I ain't
think none of them No.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Wow, I hell I made we pay, Like I was
telling somebody, we felt like when I maybe paid, I
was kind of uncomfortable rapping on that type of beat
because it's so slow.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
It just won my bound.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I didn't see I didn't see it with with that
one either, because it's so slow. When that first kick hit,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, I want my bounds.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
So me and baby in there, we just freestyling, really,
you know what I'm saying. So as I'm freestyling, as
he's freestyle, just going back and I'm like, before I
go broke like Jock, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I say that, and he like, you gotta put that
on there.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And I.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Was just saying it like I was just trying to
say some Atlanta stuff. So befo, I go broke like
Jock that dog like and he like put that on there.
And I had left that song alone, like we had
rapped all through the song.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
He came back to it like, look, let's put a
hook on her.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So he must have like like this, you know, he
must have felt like he was like, let's put a
hook on there.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
We go back in, and that's why I came in
like still a bit.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
If you listen to it, you can hear me like
still a bed in my last shoon dice in the hood.
That's the whole new added parton his verse really came
after that, you know what I'm saying. It was straight
me his verse. So he like asked some more, then
we're gonna be the hook. And when we got to
the hook, I'm like, yah.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we paid. I'm like, hell no, Like
you know what I'm saying, I'm like you like that.
I ain't like that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I feel
like it was just so cheesy. You know what I'm saying. Man,
you know that's like you just never know.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Bro ran in the job after that. No, No, I
don't know what Jack Drop might try. Ship been talking over.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
There that man. I'm like, Bro, I ain't got no problem.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Bro, God damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You and Baby he tells you down your bed your
whole bid for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
But even then, you know, like I said, jail the
dark place. So you don't want to keep calling people
living life. You You know what I'm saying. You might
shake in and want to say three weeks. I'll just
take it in so he won't get out a time,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
So, so you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
As soon as you got out, that's what I thought.
I saw him give you some money or something.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yes, you got me something got it you straight?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
How much though they gave you?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
By that me? What all together? O?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
K k ok?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah you so Baby gave you a few hundred thousand
future gave you a few thousand future nigga?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Sound like the I R s over there, don't give
me nothing?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Did Baby give you the money and then pull out
the dice and say let's get it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Me and hand don't even shoot dice against each other,
we go against other people.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, you're just too good, looked too cool, you know
what I'm saying, too cool.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
There was a rumor man that you and all said
that got into a fight over a dice game.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Any truth today?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I mean, we ain't getting a fire. I say we
got into an argument. M You know the Internet like
Pip and.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
He turned it into you got robbed and you.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Know how it be.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Man, I ain't get robbed. Man, I'm not the type
of gutta even go for that type of ship.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
You know, you know the Internet, the Internet, man.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You know even these people man, they like play into
this ship how they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
You just gotta let these be bad as ship.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Many you in JFL man, trying to prove a point,
trying to prove who you not.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You know what I'm saying, something like whatever happened?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
You know what I'm saying, y'all know who I am.
You know what I'm saying, y'all know what I'm going
from is the one you and all sai. No, I
ain't got against nobody though, honestly, I do my own thing.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know what I'm saying. I'll be with who I
be with. Let everybody else get off all they get on.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So who would you rather run into? Offset of Young Jack? Nah?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I'm talking for two Doug, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
The album never outright. You answer that one, God's crazy.
I appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
See you, brother, stay focused.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
It's four two Doug.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
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