July 22, 2024 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody is j n V, Jesse, Larria Charlamage the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club and we got a special
guest on the line.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Right now. We have Miss Angela Rode.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Good morning, Miss Rode, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Now are y'all Eddie rod daughter? How are you feeling
this morning?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
A lot to talk about this morning, let's jump right
in it. So over the weekend, Biden decided he was going.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
To tap out finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, But you know,
it made me laugh though I saw you jump out
the window. Didn't even see the original video. I just
saw your correction video. But I already knew what it
was about, because you had already said this to me before.
But you said you thought that Biden stepped down, and
why let you explain it. Biden stepped down, You had
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some words, you took the post down. What were you
upset about? Initially?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
So, as you all know, yesterday Joe Biden issued a
letter that he didn't even tell a lot of folks
on his campaign about. He said that he was going
to not drop out as the president right now, but
drop out of the campaign. And in that letter there
was only a mention of Vice President Kamala Harris as
doing a great job and he's been proud to have
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her as his partner for the last four years.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So I'm like, we're the second page. Where the second page.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
And so I'm like, yo, I have already told these
people they've been talking about it all week, that he
may not enduse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's not acceptable to me. This person is on your
ticket and says Biden Harris everywhere. So I went off.
I was like, what are you doing? What are we
talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Friend, Like, We're gonna have some real problems if you
don't throw your support behind a person who has stood
lockstep with you in moments where she shouldn't have, including
the debate night, which is where this snowball all began, and.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Then three minutes later later.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
But the thing is, I heard that people flipping out
and going off like that actually helped. Why wasn't it
in the initial letter they said that they wanted to
come from the campaign official?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But why did you just put it on Twitter? My friend?
Like the tweet don't necessarily go as viral as the
letter of your initial announcement.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
So I think it was bad strategy, and sometimes that
is the casualty of not getting your whole team involved
and ensuring that people advise you on the flat sides
of your strategy.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I disagree.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I think it was good strategy because I felt like
both of them deserved their own different announcements, and they
both worked right because he announced and then everybody was like,
oh my god, Biden dropped out, and then you know,
maybe thirty minutes an hour later, Hey, and now he
endorses kam Alott.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So I felt like they just they owned the news
cycle by doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That's what I think I can appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Now, miss right, let's jump right into it. I know
you don't got much time.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why do you think Biden finally decided to tap out, because,
you know, Friday, his team was like, he's not tapping out.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
He's gonna see this all the way through. What do
you think was the change in factor?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
You know, I don't know if there was just one.
I think that this has been a circumstance of several
terrible events. The first was the debate. Then they tried
to clean up the debate with an interview, also a disaster.
Then they tried to have conversations to get everybody to
believe that everything was still going to be fine. Also
a disaster. And when you have I think one of
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the most important things. They are not just voters in
our democracy. The way this democracy set up, it has
to be largely funded. And so when donors start calling
and saying, yo, if you step aside, you not catching
no more checks, that's a different problem, right, And I
think that's the thing that we have to understand. If
donors stop writing checks in a contested election that will
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be as close as this one, or was going to
be as close as this one with Joe Biden and
Donald Trump, if you can't fund it, you're in real
big trouble.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And the polls too, right, because I mean there was
like all of the polls showing that he can't win
in the battleground states, because they were saying that. On
Friday night or Saturday night, he sat down with some
of his team and they showed him like, yo, there's
no path to.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Victory for you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I think that polling is as good as when it's done.
And we are still over one hundred days away from
the election. So even though I've definitely seen the polls
I think one We joke about this on the podcast.
As you know, learn a lot on Native Lampile. We
always like we are the unofficial posters because black folks
never get polled, and so we had a bunch of
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people reach out to us and respond to an unofficial
poll that we did all black folks because normally have
y'all ever been I've never been polled.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, So that's running joke. I don't really put that
much stock and pose this far away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well they did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
It did show that he was up by ten percentage
points at this time in twenty twenty, Biden was.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, but he's also on the other side of a
really disastrous debate. So I think that time could heal
all wounds. Something else could happen. You know, there's been
an October surprise generally every single election cycle Hillary Clinton
had won. His name was James Camy, and he ruined
that thing, right, So I think that things could happen
all the time that change out.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Why you said it like that, you said to a girl,
was he's ruined that thing.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Listen, well, we're speaking of Angela right now, James.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
For that, I got one more question before we go
to the calls, what do you think the messaging is
to the people, Because there are a lot of people
looking at this and saying, so damn it took the
donors for you to drop out when seventy percent of
all Americans said we didn't want a Biden Trump rematch
to begin with, Like, why did it take donors?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Why you weren't listening to the people?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
I think it's a fair question, and it's one that
every single elected official, some everybody that's campaigning needs to
take stock in. You have to understand that it's not
just the big donors. Kamala raised over forty million dollars
yesterday with small donors, right, So you have to think
about the fact that we all have a voice. Every
single dollar counts. That means something, and so does every
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single vote. So they should be listening to what voters
are saying. I think more than they listen to donors.
The worst thing to me in my political experience is
when a donor's like they go like, Okay, I'm gona
write to this check, but let me tell you what
you need to do about message.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Let me tell you what you need to do about here.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Get you know what you need to get, like why
was your vorst in your opinion? Better like your job
and where you're strong is right in the check it's
not probably in political strategy.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Now, two quick questions before we go to the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
One, Kamala Harris, what needs to happen for her to
action because right now she is not running right now?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, there was a lot of people reporting yesterday, a
lot of dumbass outlets saying that Kamala was the Democratic
nominee or she's not as yet.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So what needs to happen for her to be the nominee?
And who do you think she should pick as a
running mate if she is the nominee?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah, So, in order for her to secure the nomination,
as you all know, the Democratic Convention is just a
couple weeks away, she will have to get all of
those pledged delegates. The fifty state party chairs have all
officially Endorsedry yesterday, labor unions, several elected officials, most of
the Congressional Black Caucus. So she has a lot of
folks lining up that would demonstrate that she.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Can get that.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
The other thing that we were just talking about that's
really important here is the dollars. She's demonstrated like less
than twenty four hours. People were excited, probably in a
twelve hour period, forty.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Seven million, forty six point seven million.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Wow, yes, sorry, I said forty seven around it it.
It might be at forty seven now. But the point
is she's secured the dollars, she secured the support, and
now she has to secure the delegates officially in a
convention process. A lot of the people who folks said
we're going to challenge her have now endorsed, So I
think that makes it tough. I want to know who
else is on the bench. I don't know that she's
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going to get another challenger. Maybe Joe Manchin. We don't
fool with Joe Manchin like that.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
We know better.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You did say everybody endorsed, but people are saying Barack
Obama hasn't endorsed.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Barack Obama hasn't, Nancy Pelosi hasn't, Chuck Schuma hasn't, Hakeem
Jeffries hasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But Barack Obama, of course, is the biggest one that
he just named. So Bill Clinton endorsed a lot of
people indoors, but people are surprised Barack hasn't involved.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Are Nancy and Chuck Schumer and Haqem Jeffries especially being
Nakeema is black, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So is Barack Obama. And Barack Obama's also black.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I think, stop it, he's black.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Go ahead, God, Jesus Lennard, not this morning, okay, were
still the one drop role.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Kendrick Labar told us, we don't want to hear Barack
say nigga.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That was Drake. It's very different. Don't let them get
you another time. Don't let them get you that another time.
No light skin battling today, let's all stay together. So
here we go. So I think initially I was I'm
still not.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
That happy with Barack Obama because when he needed Kamala
in a campaign for him, she was right there. And
I feel like he was trying to be in this
role of like, let's let this process play out, and
it's like, no, bruh, she's on the ticket. If she's
on the ticket, all of his pledge delegates now go
to Kamala Harris. That's the same thing that happened in
the contested convention in nineteen sixty eight with Linda B.
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Johnson dropping out after RFK challenged him. And so the
thing that happens is all of lbj's delegated or delegates
go to or went to Hubert Humphries right, still a
contested convention. All of that RFK when he was assassinated,
his delegates were split between the other two candidates. These
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things happened, and at the end end of the day,
Kamala said she's still playing ball. She said, I intend
to secure and win the nomination. That's what has to
happen at the convention. I think the other folks in
Democratic leadership, which by the way, Nancy Pelosi is not anymore,
but she likes to play that role, is demonstrating that
they want to see the process play out, and that's
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how they think.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That leadership looks.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I was told by someone pretty senior in leadership that
they expect for Kamala Harris to secure all of the
support within the next forty eight to seventy two hours,
and I think you'll see those folks fall in line slightly.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I don't want to hear nothing from former President Obama
to them about, you know, a process on an open primary,
because y'all didn't care about primaries a year ago when
people were calling for him against Biden. So don't start
caring about primaries now.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. Actually, like
I said, I was really frustrated with President Obama. We've
talked about this before, but when I was the executive
director of Congressional Black HAWKUS, anytime we were on the
other side of President Obama, it was a real frustrating moment.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The whiteside. You'll stop it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What I'm sorry, what side?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
What side of Obama? The white side, Lenard.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I can't even concentrate with you on.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
What I'm telling you is we had a lot of
issues with that Biden, I mean, Louzy, the Obama administration,
and it was really frustrating when folks didn't see that
we were trying to represent the best interest to black folks,
and when we clashed with that administration, folks dragged us.
We used to get hate mail, death threats, you know,
for being on the other side of President Obama. But
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sometimes he's on the wrong side of history, and I
think yesterday was one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, let's go to the phone lines. Angela Raih is
on the lines right now. She's answering all your questions political, whatever,
whatever question you have, something you might not understand, She'll
break it down for you. Eight hundred five eight five,
one oh five one is the Breakfast Club in morning.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Good morning. Everybody is j ND Jess hilarious, charlamage guy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We are the Breakfast Club. We have Angela Raie on
the line this morning. She's helping us out with breaking
down everything. A lot went on over the weekend. Of course,
Joe Biden tapped out, uh, and it's a lot to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And we have a Leroy on the line.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Leroy, Good morning, Leroy Roy, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Leroy Black, Good day, Harry Big. What's up, Lero? What's
your last name? Jackson and Johnson?
Speaker 9 (11:19):
Damn Washington.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
What's your question from Miss Raie?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
My question, Angela is uh. I know the delegated from
people behind miss Uh, Miss Harris, it just is the
Republican let me excuse me, a few Democrats that have
all left or they're gonna support her because of course
in two thousand and eight they didn't give a rocket
chance what he did, but they came reluctantly so hopefully
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to be behind her. Straight forward out the bed. Uh.
The the pers slow is going pretty well so far,
so that's he Cannet continue.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
What's the question is with the Democrats for online?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Is that your question?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Pretty much the main Democrats?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You have to Yeah, well, the main Democrats fall inline.
You kind of answered that a little while ago.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
But with the Maine Democrats fall inline, Angela Road and
Nancy Pelosi in chunction with Barack Obama to those people.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, I think these are the people that will be supportive.
They're waiting to see if anybody throws their hat in
the ring again. Most of the people who would be
her biggest competitors endorsed yesterday. And I think that some
of these other folks are very much controlled by the
donor class, and so they will be.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Supportive if the donors are supportive.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And I think that what we're starting to see is
that they will be even the Wall Street folks on
Wall Street Democrats are like cool, we can roll with
this one now.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Stars on the line, Star, good morning.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Good star?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What's your question for Angela RAI?
Speaker 10 (12:49):
I have a question, Hi, Angela, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I have a question.
Speaker 11 (12:56):
Am I correct to a song that there is a
Democrat and a Republican nominee.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
The East State.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
When you're saying a Republican and a Democratic nominee for
each of the fifties.
Speaker 11 (13:09):
Exactly in Congress, right, the congressman, even though the Republican
congressman and a Democrat like I live in Tennessee, Okay,
and I know that we are a raid state, but
we have a balloon, but we have a Democratic person
here Congress from here, right.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Oh are you in Memphis? Yes, yes, so you do
have a democratic representative. And how it works is members
of Congress have about seven a little over seven hundred
thousand people they represent in each state. And that's why
you could have almost fifty districts in California. You can
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have five in a southern rural state because there earned
as many people. So that's how they apportion members of
Congress who are on the House side. And then there's
another chamber, the Senate, and the Senate has one hundreds
of her right, So everyone doesn't have necessarily democratic and
Republican representation. It depends on the makeup of the voters
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in the state. Starr, are you a registered voter?
Speaker 11 (14:12):
I am, okay, so I have a I was asking
another question we did be smart, she decides to because.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I just woke up Allen Head.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
So we didn't be smart.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
I heard person that she's running with to be a
Democratic person from a Republican state.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Oh, I see, that's a great question, Stark com Are
you ready to be a political strategies this morning?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
You know that's.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
That's on the table. There's a governor by the name
of Roy Cooper Kamala Harris served as a state attorney
general with and he's from North Carolina. There's another one
named Andy Basheer who's a governor in Kentucky, also a
red state. He's being considered. And then there's there's a
state that goes back and forth, Arizona, like a lot
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of our states go back and forth. Mark Kelly, who's
a sitting senator and is the husband of Gabby Giffords,
who was a member of Congress, an all star and
she was shot in the face actually while I was
still with the Congressional Black Caucus, and she's been a
major champion for gun violence, and given everything that's happened
in this country, they think that Mark Kelly would be
a good contender as well.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, those are the time one saying Kamala and a
white person.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's got to be a white man.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's where we are in this country right now.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Those are the top names. And of course the Governor
Josh Shapiro. What do you think about the possibility of
Gretchen Whitman. They been saying you think an all women
ticket would be a smart move right now, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Can tell you what I would aspire to see. Sure,
I think all women ticket would be great. I think,
especially given all the battles of the reproductive justice that
we're seeing on the line right now, I'd be surprised.
I have heard they don't rock with each other like that,
but let's see what happens. And then with Governor Shapiro.
As you guys know, I got to sit in on
the interview if you all, with Governor Shapiro, and I
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thought he was fantastic. I didn't really know him that well.
And of course Pennsylvania is always a state that is battleground,
one where they bore a lot of resources into and
so having Governor Shapiro on the state also, who worked
with Kamala as a state's attorney general, would be would
be great.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think Mark Kelly will look good optics wise, because
he looks Maga white.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
You know, the only thing about.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The only thing about Mark.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Kelly what Mark Kelly is kind of boring. And I
think that we learned that lesson with Hillary Clinton and
Tim Kaine, Like did you remember Tim Kaine was.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
On the ticket?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Did not?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I forgot about.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Do you want that again? I don't know if I
want that so Mark Kelly. And also he's a senator,
which is where Kamala just came out of.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think I would like to see a governor.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We're still kicking it with Angela Rye not yeah, hey,
good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What's your question for miss Angela Raie.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
I just want to say that I there was a
big mistake for everybody, including your silent start I figure
coming out bashing Biden, calling Biden fash Tad stepped down,
all of these Democrats coming out. Obama came out from
what I heard, putting all this touch on him to
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step down. We picked him to be denominating. I felt
like it was like Roland moand had pointed out by
self destructive to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I totally disagreed that wasn't self destructive. That was a
bunch of people who had sense, who simply wanted to win.
And you have to ask yourself, if there's a threat
to democracy, like Donald Trump on the other side, don't
you want to run the best possible candidate to give
you the best possible chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
People couldn't hear what she said.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, she feels like everybody, including Charlemagne and us Apia,
who added the pressure on Biden, added made him step down,
and she feels like it was completely inapprop That's what
that was her feeling.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
People just wanted to It is really just that simple,
like do you want to win?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yes, I didn't know your name was Angela? Was that
question for me?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Or you Angela? What she called name?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
She did?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Ms?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Ry?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You know, I think I agree with Leonard.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
We did a podcast on this and I kind of
went off about it a little bit because I think
it's really unfair to tell people that they don't see
what they saw. You know, it was a huge problem
to see his debate performance. It was a huge problem
to see you know, the Lester whole interview after the fact.
I think the best thing that happened on debate night
was Kamala Harris defending their record after the debate, and
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so I just feel like you can't really tell people
they're not seeing what they are, you know. Initially in
twenty twenty he named the campaign in the Battle for
the Soul of America. We're in a political war, so
you have to be all the way ready. And I
think one of the other things that probably happened sometimes
it's just god like you end up getting COVID, Like
after all that is looking like you're not strong enough
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to withstand the pressures that are coming at you, and
that's unfortunate. Like we also don't want to be agist,
you know, but my dad is eighty two and kick
and he only nothing like Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, right, I think that things happened.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
The crazy thing is he got COVID on Tuesday and
he's still at the house. Like I thought the new
COVID rules was three days. He's still there and it's
been about seven days. But my other question to you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Is had it been seven days? Damn, it's usually been
three days.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He should have been out
by now. It's three days now, that's the new.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
But I think I think there were other things that
kept him in the house, including this conversation with his
family about whether or not he was going to stay
in the race.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I think it's not just COVID, and he.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Probably stayed in the house because they shooting. Okay, they
just shot last week. I would have gotten low for
a week too, I would have.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I would have.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think that's the smart thing to do a week
after you're a political opponent gets shot at. I would
I would keep the president away for a little while too.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
We ain't talk about this shooting, but I'm just gonna
hold my peace now.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I wanted to ask you before we take some more calls.
You know, do we blame this on his team?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And the reason I say that is his team is
with him twenty four to seven. They prepped, they prepared
for the debate. They know what he is, they know
how he speaks, they know how he talks. And if
he wasn't fit and they knew that he couldn't do
a good job on that debate, why would they still
put him up there to look like that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That is a great question.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
It's a million dollar question as far as I'm concerned
every single one of them people should have been fired.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I agree every single one of them, Like, how dare
you do that?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
You need to know your candidate, and if you're not
in a position to have the conversation with the candidate,
to be honest with the candidate, whether it's because you're afraid,
whether it's because you think you need the ratings, whatever
it is, like, you need to be able to be
honest with the principal.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
If you can't be, that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So I take you to every single one of those
folks who are in this alleged inner circle who've been
advising him because it keeps them in power.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
You got to check your own power sometimes.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And he was calling for the debate, and I'll tell
you one thing.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I guarantee you one thing my day, pal, he said,
I guarantee you.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
One thing that you will not see. But I guarantee
you won't ever see Kamala Harris and Donald Trump debate.
I guarantee you Donald Trump. I guarantee you Donald Trump
will not take that stage.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
With I want to see this so bad.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Donald Trump ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
He not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Do you guys think he was trying to call her
bluff when he posted yesterday that he would debate her
on Fox News.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
But even even still, she should go how long have
I been how long have I been saying, Kamala harrishon.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Go on Fox You're trying to fight me.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Listen to I said, I said, do you think he
was calling her bluff when he said he wanted to
move to debate.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
To Fox New probably because that's something that that's something
that she he thinks she probably would never.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So she think she should do it too.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
By the way, Trump is not gonna debate that. If
Trump's team this small, he don't want that smoke. Ask
some smoky, don't one.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And if she doesn't debate him, because I don't think
that he will, she should still go on Fox News.
Now at the time when she has to go on
Fox News and talk to that side of America.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, let's take some more calls.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We have Brock online five Brock, what's your question for Angela.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Rad My question is, well, we protect Kamala wholeheartedly and
aggressively against the attacks from Trump and J. D. E.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Vans.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Well, I think the question starts with you, will you right?
I know what I'm gonna do. I've been a black
woman passed over for a promotion before. I'm protecting her
first from the people that are inside the Democratic Party.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
But I did donate the Act Blue for the first time.
I'm supporting. I donated to Act Blue for the first
time last night. Hey, I'm here for, I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I love that.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Well, congrats, Jersey is here for. You heard Charlotte Magne.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Come through, you brought I hear you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I think that's great number one on your first campaign donation.
I hope that you know you will talk to the
folks in our community who question her blackness, who question
whether or not she's for the people, and that you
were able to stand on some of her own accomplishments
from when she was a state attorney general, from when
she was a United States senator. And I believe that
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now that she is no longer number two on the ticket,
we're going to see a lot more not just of
her personality, but her desires for this country to come
to fruition. So I think that that's awesome that you've
already shown your support in that way, keep doing it
because there will be a lot of attacks, and I
don't just think it'll be from the Republic.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You just said, so manager that I really hope to see,
you know, is the real Kamala Harris over the next
four months.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I think, like you said, I think now that she's.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
At the top of the ticket, I think those handcuffs,
those handcuffs are going to be off. And if they're
not off, they need to be because the only person
that's going to win this election in November is the
real Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think that's one thousand percent right.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We got Mike on the line. Mike, what's your question
for Angela RAI?
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Hey, how you doing it?
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Listen, this is a This is the thing that I
don't ever hear talked about if we get wrapped up
into politics, right, we pick a team because we always
been on that team. Now we got to use our heads.
Our health is on the lies God first. Then I helped.
I'm gonna give you a few notes, but I got
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businesses in Atlanta, and I'm gonna give you some things
you never heard before.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
One.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Uh, when the fish died in the ocean?
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Wash up on shore, the wells of beaching theyself, that's COVID.
I work with the environmental scientists. They're not telling us this.
They the Democrats or has been infiltrating and and uh,
it's so many within these three and a half years,
we have been told so many lies. Help our kids
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helters on the line, and we missed that.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
We can't.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
They lied about it from the vaccine on from the beginning.
So I didn't vote for either side, and I normally
would vote Democratic Democrats, but I couldn't do either one
because Comlin Biden wasn't telling us that COVID was really
coming from the water.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So cod covie came from the fish.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
That listen, they're poisoning the water. And this is how
it was getting to it. So when we was wearing masks,
we were supposed to watch consumption, so we already they
watching and they're sitting back watching the farms be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So we need to social distance from fish. So you
mean swimming for the of the you.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
See those fish? Where you see those fish? If you don't,
you might as well go on that beach and pick
those fish up and eat it. You take it, you listen,
you take it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Are you vegan.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
No, I'm on my way, man. I stopped the fish.
I stopped the beat because Bill Gates bought off all
our beat.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That means, oh lord, it's a lot happening in Bill Gates.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Let me tell you something. I really want to know
more about the fish.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Angel, What are you telling people out there that's listening.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Stop if you don't want me to answer the fish question?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It's COVID, know, So what do you tell people out.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
There right now?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Let me let me say this. I'm gonna tell you this,
and I'm gonna start here. I'm not gonna answer the
question directly, and I'm gonna follow instructions. But I do
want to say just this one part about the fish.
The water is being poisoned, and it is from a
lack of regulations on a lot of corporate entities.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
And I think that one thing we'll know for sure is.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
On the democratic side of with Kamala Harris, climate change
will be known as a real thing and there will
be restrictions put on environmental killers so that hopefully the
fish can survive. Now, moving right along, what I would
tell people is to ensure they understand and study Kamala's
real record. I think that this is an opportunity for
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not just the Democratic Party, but the entire country to
really hit reset.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So really give her a fair opportunity.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Look at what she's done, look at what she's promising
to do, and then match that against what your own
needs are for yourself, the dream that you have for America,
the country that you would like to reimagine, and then
really make a clear analysis on who you think will
best help you reach those goals. It's sad then politically,
progress is often incremental. We get it in small bits.
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And so even with that, knowing that there may be
incremental change that she may not be able to make
sure that America becomes the reality that we all know
we desperately deserve and need, we may get a little
bit closer. And so that's my plea to everyone to
really try to give her a fair shot. I'm excited
about her opportunity. I'm excited about who she picks as
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her running mate, and I can tell you I haven't
felt this way since twenty twenty, the twenty twenty election,
when she joined the ticket. I was never excited about
Joe Biden. I don't think that's a secret to anybody.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
And listen, I know this is a sexist country, and
I know that, you know, it's a country built on patriarchy.
But I do want women, you know, especially you know,
black women, you know, to believe in themselves in this
moment the way that we believe in them.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Because you know, when I.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Hear people say things like, oh, she'll never win, this
country didn't vote for Hillary, why would they vote for her,
I think we got to stop saying that, because this
country did vote for Hillary. Sixty five million people voted
for Hillary, and she beat down on Trump in the
popular vote by two point nine million votes. She lost
because of the electoral College, And if we're being honest,
she didn't campaign the way she should She didn't hit
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Pennsylvania the way she probably should have. She didn't touch
parts in Michigan the way she probably should have. I
think it was Wyoming, Wyoming on Wisconsin. It was three states,
Tans Wisconsin. Those three states really cost her the election,
and her campaign even admits they didn't touch those states
the way that they should have.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So there's a lot of things that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Went into play with Hillary not becoming president. And I
don't think it was just because.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
She was a woman.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, I hear that. I want to know who y'all
think is going to be the running mate.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Mark Kelly Man, he's mag of white.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I would like Shapiro though, you know, for me my
personal take of b Shapiro, I'm gonna tell you another
another white man I like.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I like Tim Ryan. I think Tim Ryan has been
friend I know, but I'm just throwing the name.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I did because he's really been supporting Kamala and he
was one of the first people to jump out there
and say Joe Biden needs to step down and Kamala
needs to be at the top of the ticket. And
you do that, and he's very battle tested against jd
Vance as well in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, you know, I hear that. I hear that.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I think that that might be tough. You know, the
everybody that runs on the ticket has to be vetted.
They have to check for, you know, chemistry with the candidates.
And I think that's another another important piece.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Mark Kelly. I like the politics of it. I just
think that he might be a little too boring.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, Governor Shapiro, then let's go all right, Well, Angela Raie,
we appreciate you for checking in and breaking all this
stuff down for us this morning, on this Monday, and make.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Sure you tune into the Native Lamp podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Subscribe to the Native Lamp Podcast on the reasent Choice
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Speaker 4 (30:20):
All Right, thank you, Yes, indeed, I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Wake that answer up. Ear in the morning Breakfast Club
Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody is j n V, Jesse, Larria Charlamage the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club and we got a special
guest on the line.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Right now. We have Miss Angela Rode.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Good morning, Miss Rode, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Now are y'all Eddie rod daughter? How are you feeling
this morning?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
A lot to talk about this morning, let's jump right
in it. So over the weekend, Biden decided he was going.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
To tap out finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, But you know,
it made me laugh though I saw you jump out
the window. Didn't even see the original video. I just
saw your correction video. But I already knew what it
was about, because you had already said this to me before.
But you said you thought that Biden stepped down, and
why let you explain it. Biden stepped down, You had
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some words, you took the post down. What were you
upset about? Initially?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
So, as you all know, yesterday Joe Biden issued a
letter that he didn't even tell a lot of folks
on his campaign about. He said that he was going
to not drop out as the president right now, but
drop out of the campaign. And in that letter there
was only a mention of Vice President Kamala Harris as
doing a great job and he's been proud to have
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her as his partner for the last four years.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So I'm like, we're the second page. Where the second page.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
And so I'm like, yo, I have already told these
people they've been talking about it all week, that he
may not enduse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's not acceptable to me. This person is on your
ticket and says Biden Harris everywhere. So I went off.
I was like, what are you doing? What are we
talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Friend, Like, We're gonna have some real problems if you
don't throw your support behind a person who has stood
lockstep with you in moments where she shouldn't have, including
the debate night, which is where this snowball all began, and.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Then three minutes later later.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
But the thing is, I heard that people flipping out
and going off like that actually helped. Why wasn't it
in the initial letter they said that they wanted to
come from the campaign official?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But why did you just put it on Twitter? My friend?
Like the tweet don't necessarily go as viral as the
letter of your initial announcement.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
So I think it was bad strategy, and sometimes that
is the casualty of not getting your whole team involved
and ensuring that people advise you on the flat sides
of your strategy.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I disagree.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I think it was good strategy because I felt like
both of them deserved their own different announcements, and they
both worked right because he announced and then everybody was like,
oh my god, Biden dropped out, and then you know,
maybe thirty minutes an hour later, Hey, and now he
endorses kam Alott.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So I felt like they just they owned the news
cycle by doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That's what I think I can appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Now, miss right, let's jump right into it. I know
you don't got much time.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why do you think Biden finally decided to tap out, because,
you know, Friday, his team was like, he's not tapping out.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
He's gonna see this all the way through. What do
you think was the change in factor?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
You know, I don't know if there was just one.
I think that this has been a circumstance of several
terrible events. The first was the debate. Then they tried
to clean up the debate with an interview, also a disaster.
Then they tried to have conversations to get everybody to
believe that everything was still going to be fine. Also
a disaster. And when you have I think one of
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the most important things. They are not just voters in
our democracy. The way this democracy set up, it has
to be largely funded. And so when donors start calling
and saying, yo, if you step aside, you not catching
no more checks, that's a different problem, right, And I
think that's the thing that we have to understand. If
donors stop writing checks in a contested election that will
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be as close as this one, or was going to
be as close as this one with Joe Biden and
Donald Trump, if you can't fund it, you're in real
big trouble.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And the polls too, right, because I mean there was
like all of the polls showing that he can't win
in the battleground states, because they were saying that. On
Friday night or Saturday night, he sat down with some
of his team and they showed him like, yo, there's
no path to.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Victory for you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I think that polling is as good as when it's done.
And we are still over one hundred days away from
the election. So even though I've definitely seen the polls
I think one We joke about this on the podcast.
As you know, learn a lot on Native Lampile. We
always like we are the unofficial posters because black folks
never get polled, and so we had a bunch of
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people reach out to us and respond to an unofficial
poll that we did all black folks because normally have
y'all ever been I've never been polled.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, So that's running joke. I don't really put that
much stock and pose this far away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well they did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
It did show that he was up by ten percentage
points at this time in twenty twenty, Biden was.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, but he's also on the other side of a
really disastrous debate. So I think that time could heal
all wounds. Something else could happen. You know, there's been
an October surprise generally every single election cycle Hillary Clinton
had won. His name was James Camy, and he ruined
that thing, right, So I think that things could happen
all the time that change out.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Why you said it like that, you said to a girl,
was he's ruined that thing.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Listen, well, we're speaking of Angela right now, James.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
For that, I got one more question before we go
to the calls, what do you think the messaging is
to the people, Because there are a lot of people
looking at this and saying, so damn it took the
donors for you to drop out when seventy percent of
all Americans said we didn't want a Biden Trump rematch
to begin with, Like, why did it take donors?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Why you weren't listening to the people?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
I think it's a fair question, and it's one that
every single elected official, some everybody that's campaigning needs to
take stock in. You have to understand that it's not
just the big donors. Kamala raised over forty million dollars
yesterday with small donors, right, So you have to think
about the fact that we all have a voice. Every
single dollar counts. That means something, and so does every
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single vote. So they should be listening to what voters
are saying. I think more than they listen to donors.
The worst thing to me in my political experience is
when a donor's like they go like, Okay, I'm gona
write to this check, but let me tell you what
you need to do about message.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Let me tell you what you need to do about here.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Get you know what you need to get, like why
was your vorst in your opinion? Better like your job
and where you're strong is right in the check it's
not probably in political strategy.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Now, two quick questions before we go to the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
One, Kamala Harris, what needs to happen for her to
action because right now she is not running right now?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, there was a lot of people reporting yesterday, a
lot of dumbass outlets saying that Kamala was the Democratic
nominee or she's not as yet.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So what needs to happen for her to be the nominee?
And who do you think she should pick as a
running mate if she is the nominee?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah, So, in order for her to secure the nomination,
as you all know, the Democratic Convention is just a
couple weeks away, she will have to get all of
those pledged delegates. The fifty state party chairs have all
officially Endorsedry yesterday, labor unions, several elected officials, most of
the Congressional Black Caucus. So she has a lot of
folks lining up that would demonstrate that she.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Can get that.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
The other thing that we were just talking about that's
really important here is the dollars. She's demonstrated like less
than twenty four hours. People were excited, probably in a
twelve hour period, forty.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Seven million, forty six point seven million.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Wow, yes, sorry, I said forty seven around it it.
It might be at forty seven now. But the point
is she's secured the dollars, she secured the support, and
now she has to secure the delegates officially in a
convention process. A lot of the people who folks said
we're going to challenge her have now endorsed, So I
think that makes it tough. I want to know who
else is on the bench. I don't know that she's
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going to get another challenger. Maybe Joe Manchin. We don't
fool with Joe Manchin like that.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
We know better.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You did say everybody endorsed, but people are saying Barack
Obama hasn't endorsed.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Barack Obama hasn't, Nancy Pelosi hasn't, Chuck Schuma hasn't, Hakeem
Jeffries hasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But Barack Obama, of course, is the biggest one that
he just named. So Bill Clinton endorsed a lot of
people indoors, but people are surprised Barack hasn't involved.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Are Nancy and Chuck Schumer and Haqem Jeffries especially being
Nakeema is black, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So is Barack Obama. And Barack Obama's also black.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I think, stop it, he's black.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Go ahead, God, Jesus Lennard, not this morning, okay, were
still the one drop role.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Kendrick Labar told us, we don't want to hear Barack
say nigga.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That was Drake. It's very different. Don't let them get
you another time. Don't let them get you that another time.
No light skin battling today, let's all stay together. So
here we go. So I think initially I was I'm
still not.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
That happy with Barack Obama because when he needed Kamala
in a campaign for him, she was right there. And
I feel like he was trying to be in this
role of like, let's let this process play out, and
it's like, no, bruh, she's on the ticket. If she's
on the ticket, all of his pledge delegates now go
to Kamala Harris. That's the same thing that happened in
the contested convention in nineteen sixty eight with Linda B.
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Johnson dropping out after RFK challenged him. And so the
thing that happens is all of lbj's delegated or delegates
go to or went to Hubert Humphries right, still a
contested convention. All of that RFK when he was assassinated,
his delegates were split between the other two candidates. These
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things happened, and at the end end of the day,
Kamala said she's still playing ball. She said, I intend
to secure and win the nomination. That's what has to
happen at the convention. I think the other folks in
Democratic leadership, which by the way, Nancy Pelosi is not anymore,
but she likes to play that role, is demonstrating that
they want to see the process play out, and that's
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how they think.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That leadership looks.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I was told by someone pretty senior in leadership that
they expect for Kamala Harris to secure all of the
support within the next forty eight to seventy two hours,
and I think you'll see those folks fall in line slightly.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I don't want to hear nothing from former President Obama
to them about, you know, a process on an open primary,
because y'all didn't care about primaries a year ago when
people were calling for him against Biden. So don't start
caring about primaries now.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. Actually, like
I said, I was really frustrated with President Obama. We've
talked about this before, but when I was the executive
director of Congressional Black HAWKUS, anytime we were on the
other side of President Obama, it was a real frustrating moment.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The whiteside. You'll stop it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What I'm sorry, what side?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
What side of Obama? The white side, Lenard.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I can't even concentrate with you on.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
What I'm telling you is we had a lot of
issues with that Biden, I mean, Louzy, the Obama administration,
and it was really frustrating when folks didn't see that
we were trying to represent the best interest to black folks,
and when we clashed with that administration, folks dragged us.
We used to get hate mail, death threats, you know,
for being on the other side of President Obama. But
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sometimes he's on the wrong side of history, and I
think yesterday was one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, let's go to the phone lines. Angela Raih is
on the lines right now. She's answering all your questions political, whatever,
whatever question you have, something you might not understand, She'll
break it down for you. Eight hundred five eight five,
one oh five one is the Breakfast Club in morning.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Good morning. Everybody is j ND Jess hilarious, charlamage guy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We are the Breakfast Club. We have Angela Raie on
the line this morning. She's helping us out with breaking
down everything. A lot went on over the weekend. Of course,
Joe Biden tapped out, uh, and it's a lot to
talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And we have a Leroy on the line.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Leroy, Good morning, Leroy Roy, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Leroy Black, Good day, Harry Big. What's up, Lero? What's
your last name? Jackson and Johnson?
Speaker 9 (11:19):
Damn Washington.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
What's your question from Miss Raie?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
My question, Angela is uh. I know the delegated from
people behind miss Uh, Miss Harris, it just is the
Republican let me excuse me, a few Democrats that have
all left or they're gonna support her because of course
in two thousand and eight they didn't give a rocket
chance what he did, but they came reluctantly so hopefully
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to be behind her. Straight forward out the bed. Uh.
The the pers slow is going pretty well so far,
so that's he Cannet continue.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
What's the question is with the Democrats for online?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Is that your question?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Pretty much the main Democrats?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You have to Yeah, well, the main Democrats fall inline.
You kind of answered that a little while ago.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
But with the Maine Democrats fall inline, Angela Road and
Nancy Pelosi in chunction with Barack Obama to those people.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, I think these are the people that will be supportive.
They're waiting to see if anybody throws their hat in
the ring again. Most of the people who would be
her biggest competitors endorsed yesterday. And I think that some
of these other folks are very much controlled by the
donor class, and so they will be.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Supportive if the donors are supportive.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And I think that what we're starting to see is
that they will be even the Wall Street folks on
Wall Street Democrats are like cool, we can roll with
this one now.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Stars on the line, Star, good morning.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Good star?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What's your question for Angela RAI?
Speaker 10 (12:49):
I have a question, Hi, Angela, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I have a question.
Speaker 11 (12:56):
Am I correct to a song that there is a
Democrat and a Republican nominee.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
The East State.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
When you're saying a Republican and a Democratic nominee for
each of the fifties.
Speaker 11 (13:09):
Exactly in Congress, right, the congressman, even though the Republican
congressman and a Democrat like I live in Tennessee, Okay,
and I know that we are a raid state, but
we have a balloon, but we have a Democratic person
here Congress from here, right.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Oh are you in Memphis? Yes, yes, so you do
have a democratic representative. And how it works is members
of Congress have about seven a little over seven hundred
thousand people they represent in each state. And that's why
you could have almost fifty districts in California. You can
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have five in a southern rural state because there earned
as many people. So that's how they apportion members of
Congress who are on the House side. And then there's
another chamber, the Senate, and the Senate has one hundreds
of her right, So everyone doesn't have necessarily democratic and
Republican representation. It depends on the makeup of the voters
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in the state. Starr, are you a registered voter?
Speaker 11 (14:12):
I am, okay, so I have a I was asking
another question we did be smart, she decides to because.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I just woke up Allen Head.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
So we didn't be smart.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
I heard person that she's running with to be a
Democratic person from a Republican state.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Oh, I see, that's a great question, Stark com Are
you ready to be a political strategies this morning?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
You know that's.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
That's on the table. There's a governor by the name
of Roy Cooper Kamala Harris served as a state attorney
general with and he's from North Carolina. There's another one
named Andy Basheer who's a governor in Kentucky, also a
red state. He's being considered. And then there's there's a
state that goes back and forth, Arizona, like a lot
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of our states go back and forth. Mark Kelly, who's
a sitting senator and is the husband of Gabby Giffords,
who was a member of Congress, an all star and
she was shot in the face actually while I was
still with the Congressional Black Caucus, and she's been a
major champion for gun violence, and given everything that's happened
in this country, they think that Mark Kelly would be
a good contender as well.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, those are the time one saying Kamala and a
white person.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's got to be a white man.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's where we are in this country right now.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Those are the top names. And of course the Governor
Josh Shapiro. What do you think about the possibility of
Gretchen Whitman. They been saying you think an all women
ticket would be a smart move right now, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Can tell you what I would aspire to see. Sure,
I think all women ticket would be great. I think,
especially given all the battles of the reproductive justice that
we're seeing on the line right now, I'd be surprised.
I have heard they don't rock with each other like that,
but let's see what happens. And then with Governor Shapiro.
As you guys know, I got to sit in on
the interview if you all, with Governor Shapiro, and I
(16:02):
thought he was fantastic. I didn't really know him that well.
And of course Pennsylvania is always a state that is battleground,
one where they bore a lot of resources into and
so having Governor Shapiro on the state also, who worked
with Kamala as a state's attorney general, would be would
be great.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think Mark Kelly will look good optics wise, because
he looks Maga white.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
You know, the only thing about.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The only thing about Mark.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Kelly what Mark Kelly is kind of boring. And I
think that we learned that lesson with Hillary Clinton and
Tim Kaine, Like did you remember Tim Kaine was.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
On the ticket?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Did not?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I forgot about.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Do you want that again? I don't know if I
want that so Mark Kelly. And also he's a senator,
which is where Kamala just came out of.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think I would like to see a governor.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We're still kicking it with Angela Rye not yeah, hey,
good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What's your question for miss Angela Raie.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
I just want to say that I there was a
big mistake for everybody, including your silent start I figure
coming out bashing Biden, calling Biden fash Tad stepped down,
all of these Democrats coming out. Obama came out from
what I heard, putting all this touch on him to
(17:20):
step down. We picked him to be denominating. I felt
like it was like Roland moand had pointed out by
self destructive to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I totally disagreed that wasn't self destructive. That was a
bunch of people who had sense, who simply wanted to win.
And you have to ask yourself, if there's a threat
to democracy, like Donald Trump on the other side, don't
you want to run the best possible candidate to give
you the best possible chances of winning.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
People couldn't hear what she said.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, she feels like everybody, including Charlemagne and us Apia,
who added the pressure on Biden, added made him step down,
and she feels like it was completely inapprop That's what
that was her feeling.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
People just wanted to It is really just that simple,
like do you want to win?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yes, I didn't know your name was Angela? Was that
question for me?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Or you Angela? What she called name?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
She did?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Ms?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Ry?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You know, I think I agree with Leonard.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
We did a podcast on this and I kind of
went off about it a little bit because I think
it's really unfair to tell people that they don't see
what they saw. You know, it was a huge problem
to see his debate performance. It was a huge problem
to see you know, the Lester whole interview after the fact.
I think the best thing that happened on debate night
was Kamala Harris defending their record after the debate, and
(18:41):
so I just feel like you can't really tell people
they're not seeing what they are, you know. Initially in
twenty twenty he named the campaign in the Battle for
the Soul of America. We're in a political war, so
you have to be all the way ready. And I
think one of the other things that probably happened sometimes
it's just god like you end up getting COVID, Like
after all that is looking like you're not strong enough
(19:01):
to withstand the pressures that are coming at you, and
that's unfortunate. Like we also don't want to be agist,
you know, but my dad is eighty two and kick
and he only nothing like Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, right, I think that things happened.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
The crazy thing is he got COVID on Tuesday and
he's still at the house. Like I thought the new
COVID rules was three days. He's still there and it's
been about seven days. But my other question to you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Is had it been seven days? Damn, it's usually been
three days.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He should have been out
by now. It's three days now, that's the new.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
But I think I think there were other things that
kept him in the house, including this conversation with his
family about whether or not he was going to stay
in the race.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I think it's not just COVID, and he.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Probably stayed in the house because they shooting. Okay, they
just shot last week. I would have gotten low for
a week too, I would have.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I would have.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think that's the smart thing to do a week
after you're a political opponent gets shot at. I would
I would keep the president away for a little while too.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
We ain't talk about this shooting, but I'm just gonna
hold my peace now.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I wanted to ask you before we take some more calls.
You know, do we blame this on his team?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And the reason I say that is his team is
with him twenty four to seven. They prepped, they prepared
for the debate. They know what he is, they know
how he speaks, they know how he talks. And if
he wasn't fit and they knew that he couldn't do
a good job on that debate, why would they still
put him up there to look like that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That is a great question.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
It's a million dollar question as far as I'm concerned
every single one of them people should have been fired.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I agree every single one of them, Like, how dare
you do that?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
You need to know your candidate, and if you're not
in a position to have the conversation with the candidate,
to be honest with the candidate, whether it's because you're afraid,
whether it's because you think you need the ratings, whatever
it is, like, you need to be able to be
honest with the principal.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
If you can't be, that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So I take you to every single one of those
folks who are in this alleged inner circle who've been
advising him because it keeps them in power.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
You got to check your own power sometimes.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And he was calling for the debate, and I'll tell
you one thing.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I guarantee you one thing my day, pal, he said,
I guarantee you.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
One thing that you will not see. But I guarantee
you won't ever see Kamala Harris and Donald Trump debate.
I guarantee you Donald Trump. I guarantee you Donald Trump
will not take that stage.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
With I want to see this so bad.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Donald Trump ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
He not going to do it.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Do you guys think he was trying to call her
bluff when he posted yesterday that he would debate her
on Fox News.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
But even even still, she should go how long have
I been how long have I been saying, Kamala harrishon.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Go on Fox You're trying to fight me.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Listen to I said, I said, do you think he
was calling her bluff when he said he wanted to
move to debate.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
To Fox New probably because that's something that that's something
that she he thinks she probably would never.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So she think she should do it too.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
By the way, Trump is not gonna debate that. If
Trump's team this small, he don't want that smoke. Ask
some smoky, don't one.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And if she doesn't debate him, because I don't think
that he will, she should still go on Fox News.
Now at the time when she has to go on
Fox News and talk to that side of America.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, let's take some more calls.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We have Brock online five Brock, what's your question for Angela.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Rad My question is, well, we protect Kamala wholeheartedly and
aggressively against the attacks from Trump and J. D. E.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Vans.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Well, I think the question starts with you, will you right?
I know what I'm gonna do. I've been a black
woman passed over for a promotion before. I'm protecting her
first from the people that are inside the Democratic Party.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
But I did donate the Act Blue for the first time.
I'm supporting. I donated to Act Blue for the first
time last night. Hey, I'm here for, I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I love that.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Well, congrats, Jersey is here for. You heard Charlotte Magne.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Come through, you brought I hear you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I think that's great number one on your first campaign donation.
I hope that you know you will talk to the
folks in our community who question her blackness, who question
whether or not she's for the people, and that you
were able to stand on some of her own accomplishments
from when she was a state attorney general, from when
she was a United States senator. And I believe that
(23:23):
now that she is no longer number two on the ticket,
we're going to see a lot more not just of
her personality, but her desires for this country to come
to fruition. So I think that that's awesome that you've
already shown your support in that way, keep doing it
because there will be a lot of attacks, and I
don't just think it'll be from the Republic.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You just said, so manager that I really hope to see,
you know, is the real Kamala Harris over the next
four months.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I think, like you said, I think now that she's.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
At the top of the ticket, I think those handcuffs,
those handcuffs are going to be off. And if they're
not off, they need to be because the only person
that's going to win this election in November is the
real Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think that's one thousand percent right.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We got Mike on the line. Mike, what's your question
for Angela RAI?
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Hey, how you doing it?
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Listen, this is a This is the thing that I
don't ever hear talked about if we get wrapped up
into politics, right, we pick a team because we always
been on that team. Now we got to use our heads.
Our health is on the lies God first. Then I helped.
I'm gonna give you a few notes, but I got
(24:31):
businesses in Atlanta, and I'm gonna give you some things
you never heard before.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
One.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Uh, when the fish died in the ocean?
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Wash up on shore, the wells of beaching theyself, that's COVID.
I work with the environmental scientists. They're not telling us this.
They the Democrats or has been infiltrating and and uh,
it's so many within these three and a half years,
we have been told so many lies. Help our kids
(25:01):
helters on the line, and we missed that.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
We can't.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
They lied about it from the vaccine on from the beginning.
So I didn't vote for either side, and I normally
would vote Democratic Democrats, but I couldn't do either one
because Comlin Biden wasn't telling us that COVID was really
coming from the water.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So cod covie came from the fish.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
That listen, they're poisoning the water. And this is how
it was getting to it. So when we was wearing masks,
we were supposed to watch consumption, so we already they
watching and they're sitting back watching the farms be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So we need to social distance from fish. So you
mean swimming for the of the you.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
See those fish? Where you see those fish? If you don't,
you might as well go on that beach and pick
those fish up and eat it. You take it, you listen,
you take it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Are you vegan.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
No, I'm on my way, man. I stopped the fish.
I stopped the beat because Bill Gates bought off all
our beat.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That means, oh lord, it's a lot happening in Bill Gates.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Let me tell you something. I really want to know
more about the fish.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Angel, What are you telling people out there that's listening.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Stop if you don't want me to answer the fish question?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It's COVID, know, So what do you tell people out.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
There right now?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Let me let me say this. I'm gonna tell you this,
and I'm gonna start here. I'm not gonna answer the
question directly, and I'm gonna follow instructions. But I do
want to say just this one part about the fish.
The water is being poisoned, and it is from a
lack of regulations on a lot of corporate entities.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
And I think that one thing we'll know for sure is.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
On the democratic side of with Kamala Harris, climate change
will be known as a real thing and there will
be restrictions put on environmental killers so that hopefully the
fish can survive. Now, moving right along, what I would
tell people is to ensure they understand and study Kamala's
real record. I think that this is an opportunity for
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not just the Democratic Party, but the entire country to
really hit reset.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So really give her a fair opportunity.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Look at what she's done, look at what she's promising
to do, and then match that against what your own
needs are for yourself, the dream that you have for America,
the country that you would like to reimagine, and then
really make a clear analysis on who you think will
best help you reach those goals. It's sad then politically,
progress is often incremental. We get it in small bits.
(27:44):
And so even with that, knowing that there may be
incremental change that she may not be able to make
sure that America becomes the reality that we all know
we desperately deserve and need, we may get a little
bit closer. And so that's my plea to everyone to
really try to give her a fair shot. I'm excited
about her opportunity. I'm excited about who she picks as
(28:05):
her running mate, and I can tell you I haven't
felt this way since twenty twenty, the twenty twenty election,
when she joined the ticket. I was never excited about
Joe Biden. I don't think that's a secret to anybody.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
And listen, I know this is a sexist country, and
I know that, you know, it's a country built on patriarchy.
But I do want women, you know, especially you know,
black women, you know, to believe in themselves in this
moment the way that we believe in them.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Because you know, when I.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Hear people say things like, oh, she'll never win, this
country didn't vote for Hillary, why would they vote for her,
I think we got to stop saying that, because this
country did vote for Hillary. Sixty five million people voted
for Hillary, and she beat down on Trump in the
popular vote by two point nine million votes. She lost
because of the electoral College, And if we're being honest,
she didn't campaign the way she should She didn't hit
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Pennsylvania the way she probably should have. She didn't touch
parts in Michigan the way she probably should have. I
think it was Wyoming, Wyoming on Wisconsin. It was three states,
Tans Wisconsin. Those three states really cost her the election,
and her campaign even admits they didn't touch those states
the way that they should have.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So there's a lot of things that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Went into play with Hillary not becoming president. And I
don't think it was just because.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
She was a woman.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, I hear that. I want to know who y'all
think is going to be the running mate.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Mark Kelly Man, he's mag of white.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I would like Shapiro though, you know, for me my
personal take of b Shapiro, I'm gonna tell you another
another white man I like.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I like Tim Ryan. I think Tim Ryan has been
friend I know, but I'm just throwing the name.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I did because he's really been supporting Kamala and he
was one of the first people to jump out there
and say Joe Biden needs to step down and Kamala
needs to be at the top of the ticket. And
you do that, and he's very battle tested against jd
Vance as well in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, you know, I hear that. I hear that.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I think that that might be tough. You know, the
everybody that runs on the ticket has to be vetted.
They have to check for, you know, chemistry with the candidates.
And I think that's another another important piece.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Mark Kelly. I like the politics of it. I just
think that he might be a little too boring.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, Governor Shapiro, then let's go all right, Well, Angela Raie,
we appreciate you for checking in and breaking all this
stuff down for us this morning, on this Monday, and make.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Sure you tune into the Native Lamp podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Subscribe to the Native Lamp Podcast on the reasent Choice
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Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
All Right, thank you, Yes, indeed, I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
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