The Breakfast Club sit down with Sauce Walka to talk his latest project, "Saucefather 2," and shares his thoughts on women and the impact of social media. His experiences with street life, and even speaks on Drake. Listen for More.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club, Yep,
it's the World's most Dangerous Morning. Short to Breakfast Club,
Charlamagne the god Enva is in a shreport with with
fifty cent in the game. But Laura Lenro says, here,
nihlis some moons here and we got a special guest.
He's got a new album out. Sauce Father to Sauce Walker,
what's up my brother?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And ain't say, Man, it's the kid that did not
the kid that didn't the reason why the Sauce Wire
was reading, you know the flag. But I'm speaking Sauce Walker.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, yeah, people act like they know what you just.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I always do it that. I never say nothing that
I don't do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You know, I think people don't realize about you, Sauce Walker.
You really are a dope ass rapper.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Thank you appressure like an mc MC life.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But I think the.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Online personality sometimes overshadows the boss.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's more of a
thing like don't judge a book by its cover, but
also what we'd like to say in my and my
cool we'd like to say, don't let the souse full you.
You know what I'm saying, but also as well, you know,
I kind of felt like a lot of artists and
a lot of rappers put on this persona and they
put on this image, but like you always got to
be tough, for you always gotta be uh. It's just
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like on some some some some street shit, you know
what I'm saying, Like you can't just enjoy life for
be humorous or have uh, just have fun. And you
know what I'm saying, enjoy life for what it is.
And I always be so serious and for me and
my personal experience, I feel like when you really come
from the struggle, when you really come from violence, when
you really come from pain and suffering, and you get
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to a platform like Instagram, this app was made to
like pictures and make memories and have fun, and just
so happened it became a platform where people could create,
uh lucrative ways of generating residual incoming wealth off of
you know what I'm saying, creating a wider audience through
a platform. And I felt like, why would I use
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Instagram as a place to try to be like overly see,
it's overly hard when I'm trying to reach out to
the world. You know what I'm saying. Not mad at that,
That's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not mad at that because some people do like
I shouldn't know certain things about certain people. Yeah, like
I shouldn't know your baby daddy ain't been around in
six months, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And the kids can't afford healthcare?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They make me laugh. When I first got on their platform,
I thought, this is a platform to find pretty girls
and stuff like that. It just became, it grew and
blossom to be what it is today. But you know,
I was on Instagram where you can only take pictures
and one NIC's outfit. So I feel like I grew
with the platform. So I'm enjoy and have fun on
the platform and it made me millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Do you feel like you're because when I was I
listened to we were talking about earlier some of your interviews,
and I listened to how you were talking about how
you like do like the promotions sometimes for other artists
and whatever, and I was like, this is how like
an influencer works. Like do you consider yourself an influencer too?
Or like it's just you?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean to be honest, I only wrap on the weekends.
I'm keep it real. I'm more of a lot of
things than an artist. I'm a CEO, I'm a I'm
a philanthropist in my community. I'm a motive, motivational speaker
and financial advisor consulting for a lot of people in
different companies as well. I own six different LLC's, two corporations.
(03:19):
I sell boats all all forms of streaming up from
being a YouTuber with TikToker only fans rapping like I've done,
I do it. I've done it all that's within my
respected realm of hustling, you know what I mean. So
rapping is just something that's first nature to me because
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I've been doing in my whole life. I've been recording
in professional studios is nineteen ninety six, when I was
like six years old. I've been wrapping my whole life.
Is just something that I just do with that I'm
good at. But I happened to be one of those
people that's just tendented enough to where I can do
anything and still be successful make means of dollars of conversation.
I could be making me as a dollars podcasting, comedian, acting.
(04:03):
I'm just one of those stars with just multitanted but rapping.
It's a strong suit that I have lyrically, and that
it does get overshadowed and overlook because I'm self charismatic,
you know what I'm saying. But you know it's a
gifting of courage because you know, it's certain areas where
it calls to have intelligence, conversation and charisma, and a
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lot of artists don't have that in those areas. So
you may have good music and a good song that
lasts momentarily, but you don't laugh last for a lifetime
because people not invested to you as a person, as
a as a human being more than just your music.
You know, music is subjective. Sometimes it's good, sometimes people
don't care for it. But everybody always loves a great
personality in a great mind.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But does it get to you sometimes? Like when you
just drop that frees, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah and our knock life yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Like and people were like, yo, he really be going,
and like it's like almost like people are always relearning
that that's what you do. Naturally. Does that piss you
sometimes because it's like you do this?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean honestly, I always been one of them type
of people. That's like I've been taking my flowers my
entire career. I'm sure the man is. I don't know
how familiar y'all are with me, but I know so
the main very familiar with my career. They've been we've
been talking to each other and trying to get me
up here for years, since early early in my career
when I was doing the Sauce Twins. So I've always
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known and I've always been very vocal and confident about
the fact that I know I'm one of the best
rappers to ever live, not just of my generation or
not just from Texas, like I know for a million percent.
In fact, lyrically ball for ball, similar for similarly analogy
for analogy, metaphor for metaphor storytelling having actual substance, meaning
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a message that people can actually grab knowledge, wholesomness, information
from pain, struggle and healing through the things that we
go through being black people in America, coming from poverty,
coming from struggle, broken broken parenting, or taking the struggle
part out of it, but just elite punchline skills and
delivery and catuses like I've shown over my ten year
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spanning my career that I'm not only I'm one of
the best, but I'm also one of the most prolific
rappers to come out of my generation and generations before me,
and then being there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
He's not putting sauce on that I'm not. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I'm from the South, and I'm from the South.
I'm from Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying. I'm
from the same place as Scar fights the Cowboys, is it.
And I'm looked at. I'm renowned, respected by New York
and New York rappers more than anywhere else. My biggest
market is New York. Houston or well, Texas is my
first market and then New York is my second.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Maybe you should give him a quick sixteen just just
because before we keep keep the interview going.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I mean I could, but I really not a I'm
a I'm a freestyle rapper. I don't like had them
right ritten balls.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can give him something that you've already given them before,
just so they know, just a little sample you have
A ain't ever heard sauce walking rap.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Must be I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think I think yeah, but I would love to
hear the person you trying to get.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Out of it. I ain't never dripping about it. I mean,
you know it is.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The weekend, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, if I'm a freestyle you know, I want
to be like really on their mood and perform like
you know what I'm saying. I really can't to talk,
but I will like it ain't nothing to it but
to do it. It ain't nothing. You know what I'm
saying about freestyle. Right now, I'm gonna be like mom,
some ace time ship, but more than some sid ship.
I'm gonna like get the wrapping about the stuff in
the room. I'm hide in the broom being this look
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up like a balloon. Come out the cocoon and fly
it in the butter tusef business pulled up No study
alligator now later slepter hater. You know what I'm saying,
being the sauce dripping major flavor Like I'm gonna just
go out the top like.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No I need to because he can really wrap.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I know that that hen just talking about things.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
You were talking about all your many business ventures and
all the things that you do. In the first record
on Sopot the two is master p and I really
love the relationship between Texas.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Uh, just talk to me about your your relationship with
master P Song.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And what you think. But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm a I'm a master P and in a lot
of different areas, you know what I'm saying. And I
respect the direction and some of the principles that master
P implemented in his career to get where he is.
And I also feel that, and I've been told this
by some of the label execs and people that I
do do business with or have done business within the industry,
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that some of the deal structures that I've created are
kind of like master P deals because it's like very
rare where artists can sign a deal with an any
major label or major label, get millions of dollars and
still keep his entire catalog separated from that contractual agreement
and having a record label with I got fifty fifty artists,
(09:20):
well producers of artists as well, but forty some artists
and ten producers signed to my record label, my distribution company,
and I have u those forty some are artists. Probably
like seven or eight of those artists are international from
like here, Shima, Japan, Puerto Rico, Venezuela Europe. So like,
(09:41):
I think that I've created a cult fan base and
the following somewhat similar to No Limit and Master P
with Saucewalker and the Sauce Family. T yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But in that song you're talking about pimping.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I mean, I'm always talking about the pimping. I mean,
but you know, it's the P is a lot of things.
It's being a pimp, is being a players, being a president,
is being prestigious, it's being professional, it's being power, It's
being a lot of things being a p You know
what I'm saying, And I represent all of those titles
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very well. But I'm who created P.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It come from Texas or they come from.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Saying the TURNP pushing P. Well, I don't push P.
What we do is something different. The p itself don't
come from no no rappers or none of that. The
psself come from the game. It comes from a man
with a plan and a woman with a vagina that's
a little bit finer. That's what the P comes from.
All the other stuff is like fabricated or extra like
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you can make it sound cool, like saying you're pushing paper.
You know what I'm saying that that was like about
the most decent explanations that I feel that that that
that that that was given from that perspective. But you know,
the p is to be the ultimate player, you know
what I'm saying. And there's two sides of it. You
can be a player, you can be a pimp, you
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know what I'm saying. A pimp is somebody who leads
and tells people or gives a person a task or
a strategy to go make money. However you make money.
It's not just about a woman getting money from a man.
And you know what I'm saying, it's not just about
sex and positive it's way bigger than that. A woman
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can or a woman or any person can go and
make money doing somebody else's will, doing somebody else's strategy.
But you can look at that persons they're too lazy
to do the job, or they not maybe may not
have the skills, not the skills, but they just can't
do what you can do. It's like you have a
lot of bosses that work on the field where it
was a pit of time where they did used to
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do what everybody does, but they just learned the business
and now they just manage and tell everybody what else
to do while they're just there. That's all a pimp
is as a manager, somebody that gives you instructions to
do something that either they know how to do or
they prefer to you to do it, and they just
evaluate what you're doing like a coach, a life coach.
A player, though, is somebody who fuck with people that
already got the money. I just play my way into
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the situation. You know what I'm saying. A lot of
those cases, the woman is the player exactly. So why
would you not PAYMP when all women are playing on men?
And respectfully though respectfully and it not into to not
say that it's a negative thing, but to not acknowledge
the fact that the world in society is systematically created
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to where a woman it's not even necessarily by her
her choice and her own decisions, but just the way
that the world is. If she's able to be beautiful
and perpetuate her image, opportunities, relationships, and the lust of
the hope that a man would have some type of
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intimacy with this woman opens up a whole different doors
for this woman that the average man and the average
human being cannot get past. It changes a woman whole
trajectory of life. Women growing up in today's day age
are preparing themselves to be it's not I don't even
it's not even an Instagram model, it's just, let's just say,
(13:23):
a bad bitch. Women are more training themselves in today's
name era to be a bad bitch on social media,
on YouTube, or just the everyday walk of life than
they are training themselves to be a business owner or
to be a a fucking a college student.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The women you're talking to, because you also got women
who are training themselves to do that, but they're also.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Bad but then went to college.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, okay, so this again, again, again again again. Okay,
Michael Jordan played, Michael Jordan play baseball, but he's still
a basketball player. Deon Sanders played baseball, He's still a
football player. A lot of women have the in certain
and so also men go through this as well. But
the thing about it is that beauty is not usually
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or being handsome or being attractive is not usually profitable
for every single man on earth the way that it
is for women, meaning that, okay, look at it from
this perspective, Sex for a man's earned this morning. Sex
for a woman is given. You understand the difference between
the two. For a man to court a woman, for
a man that has sexual intercourse, for a man to
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enjoy a woman's uh intimacy and vulnerability, he has to
earn that privilege and earn that right for me, nor
they don't. So I'm not saying, y'all for all women
in general. What I'm saying is that a woman can
have her plans and her goal set out. Let's just
say a woman in real estate, right, you have two
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different women in real estate. You have a beautiful woman
that's in real estate. You have another woman who is
also beautiful, but let's just say let's just say she's
plus sized, or let's just say she's a little older.
She can have the same body type as a young woman,
but she's a little older. To give another age and
not make it about body shaming. Okay, the more in shape,
beautiful presented body inside of those business suits, she's going
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to get a lot of more brokering deals. She's going
to get a lot of more inquiries. She's going to
get a lot of more men who are going to
be helpful in assisting in her journey as being a
real estate agent, because all of those men have a
secret agenda to in some way tape or form have
sex with her.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And we know that. And yeah, we know that. We
know pretty privilege exists, and a lot of times we
ignore it.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's all I'm saying, rubbing her head and she know
he telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Didn't say anything. The only thing I didn't agree with.
I think it's the way you phrased it. But understanding
the break that I get what you're saying. I just
don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm not saying that every woman in the world is
like it is the divine in just to like, Okay,
I'm finna just go make money. Just that's that's what
was the worst systematically does not want to be a
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bad bitch in today's damn era.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's like, but a bad bitch is different than so
all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Beautiful woman, every woman is seeing something. Every woman is beautiful,
bad it is something different. Every woman is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Beautiful conversation we had this morning, because what I was
talking about this morning was like, you know, they were
saying that I get mad when certain women be like,
I ain't dating no man if you can't do nothing
for me, that's not true. It's a mutually beneficial thing, right,
Everybody gonna do something everybody, but the raggedy ones be talking.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
The raggety ones that be like, I ain't doing nothing,
somebody ain't doing nothing for me. Ain't nobody going to
do nothing for you? Because you're raggedy?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I feel I feel that, I feel that. As much
as I want to agree with what you're saying, I
can't agree with that because it's again, that's why it
goes best to my resinal statement. There are more men
that are in positions of power, positions of success, that
also have families, half wives, have children, have great things
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going for theyself, that risk everything that they have. For women,
there's raggedy every day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
They don't never cheat with nobody better.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay. So with that being said, so they'd be saying
how much how much value is actually being set on
the man and in his position of what he brings
to the type in the relationship, versus to what a
woman brings to the type of by just being a
beautiful flower in the room. That's just the word, that's
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just the that's just the way. And I don't blame
the women or fought the women at all for it,
because that's their species, that's their femininity. That if them
being beautiful creates opportunities and open doors and gives gives
them privileges that the man doesn't necessarily earn, then you
just respect the powers that be. But if you happen
to be one of those alpha males wanted because you
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were thinking about this, you have to also realize that
a woman is only the prize to the men that
want her. A woman is never the prize to the
man that she want.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Oh that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What I'm saying. A woman is never the prize to
the man that she wants. She's only a prize to
the men that want her. Because in most cases in life,
most men cannot have sex and physical relationships at their
own will with the women that they truly desire. Like
they have to get what they can get. That's why
some guys you'll be like, you may look at this
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guy like, oh, this guy is so handsome and he's
so successful, he so why would he fuck with this
type of girl? Why would he give why would he
portray this type of girl? Whatever? But you have to
understand it, he's probably not even in most cases they're
not used to having access to so much women because
they didn't have so much money, or didn't have so
much time, or didn't have so much whatever that they
had that was conflicting from expressing their sexual needs attracting
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with other women. So now that they have the or
come a little tied with this, my stuff is kind
of put together. Now. I want to go cheat, I
want to go explore.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I want to do this, or you might have been
lucky enough to me just sold me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And I think I get what you're saying, but I
think everything isn't physical appearance. A lot of times, sometimes
it's just about connecting with a person on an emotional
level or a spiritual level.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But you got to take the time to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But I do agree with the overall sentiment that you're
making because I was saying that this morning, men literally
recreate our lives for women. That true, everything we do
is for women. I wouldn't get a headcut. I don't
care about that we.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Dress for women.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We do these things because we're trying to attract beautiful women.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
That's just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Or or even if it's not necessary to check certain women,
it's about a woman just valuing and respecting who I
am as a man, how I present myself. If I
respect myself enough to stay clean, stay in shape, stay cut, state,
making money of having a car, having opportunity, having stabidity,
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having somewhere for you to sleep, state, even if you
have all these things on your own as a woman
that you bring to the table. But again, a man
will take you without those things a woman won't take.
In most cases, a woman won't take a man without
those things. And if she does, then she has to
be ridiculed about the women and the femine members around her,
because girl, whilere you fucking with that nigga? With that guy,
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he done got this and this and that, and you
take care of him this and this and that, instead
of empowering her and saying, Okay, well he this man
really loves you and he want to be with you,
and he comes home every night. So put that other
energy into that. You take it down from that man.
How can I help him be bigger and better and stronger,
because this God does, actually does want to be committed
to what I have going on versus to I think
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people just be going I don't even want to say
going out of their means. But it's just I don't
know that relationship shit gets. It's what it's tedious.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So you're talking about like people becoming like popping, right
and things changing. When did you realize like you were popping?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like I was born, I was popping. I knew I
was propping. I ain't know no, just just I knew
I was him my whole life. I've been him him.
I came out to womb him, I've been I've been
like a start my whole life. Like I said earlier,
I've been wrapping my whole life. I never was like
one of those kids that was like confused about what
I wanted to be when I grew up or what
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was gonna happen for me. Like I always knew I
was gonna be an entertainer. I always know I was
gonna be a rapper. I always knew I was gonna
be flys. I know, and I was handsome my whole life.
I always knew that that was even say that for me,
like I understand the difference between being a handsome man
but just a man that don't have natural you know
what I'm saying, the ability to just captivate a woman's attention.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Don't want to tell nobody ugly for nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I really enjoyed the conversation you have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Said you said, I don't want to call anybody ugly.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You ain't wanna call the girl.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm so I've been saying certain stuff about with girls
or just with people in there. People just wanting to
attack me from my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But everybody checking.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh man, he's so informative, Like I would love to
watch a podcast on top of then some of that.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Should I say, sometimes you be calling like you be
calling people out for stuff like that's what I when
I hear your name, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Like it is. I know not I've been going to
change that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
The Drake moment was the moment.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's when a lot of people know me from controversial
ship like that. Yeah, yeah, i'mnn stand on the business
regardless of whoever whatever you call.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's funny though, because you called Drake Off a cultural
appropriation way before Kendrick did.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I did. I did. I definitely did. And if my
if my whole city would have supported what I was
on back then for the reasons that I did it,
then we would have got the same reaction that Kendrick
Lamore in California did, and I think it's just a
beautiful thing with again no discredit to either one or artists,
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because again I have nothing to do with that shit,
and I don't give a fuck about that shit because
I'm a millionaire, I'm Southwalker, and I made it. I
beat the black ball of the rap games of those
typeosittion scenarios. But to speak on that particular situation is
that it's just a beautiful thing to see the outcome
of an entire city and then entire state standing behind
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the artist that represents them, will it represents the culture
and just trying to defend for their culture and the
culture itself, not trying to mediate or prohibit their artists
from fending for their culture, but instead standing behind them
and supporting that ideal. And that's the difference between appreciation
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and appropriation, and that's what creates a bigger landscape of
economy and opportunity for that city, because regardless of New
York is the same way if somebody was to come
to New York and try to appropriate New York culching
and style and not give back to it. Like, I
don't know who's a good example to use, but because
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nobody does that in fuck New York. Nobody come to
New York and act like a battle rapper, or act
like a lyricist, or act like a fucking drill rapper
out there. Don't do music with the drill rappers. Don't
come rap with you cannot do that. It doesn't make sense.
You can't. When everybody was doing this little this ship
and doing that little Jersey dance. Nobody from around the
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world did that dance or made music on that sound
frequency without acknowledging that it came from those places of
bringing those kids from New Jersey on stage or in
the East Coast is going to govern that the South
was in Texas, Houston especially was supposed to govern government.
And you know what I'm saying, it's cool. Look, somebody
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got to do it, and I did it. I ain't
tripping them. Bro.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Don't you think Houston probably looks at Drake different because
there wouldn't be Houston.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't give a fuck what Houston look at it.
It's what I said. I'm a j prince too, Like
what I'm my world is a law. What I'm saying
is what I speak is the real opinions of the
city of Houston, the people that's in the south side,
the people that's on the north side, the people that
they just ain't got the platform or the voice or
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the the not gonna get the response, and I'm gonna
get in. They can't faith the heat, faith the water.
Everybody know, I got the manpower, I got the money,
I had the well with the validity, whatever this needed
necessary from my age then to right now. Just like
I've shown people, it's a lot of people that thought
I was gonna be overnight or fly by night artists
or artist that. And then you also understand realized that
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I'm independent. I've been independent my entire rap career ten years.
I've been in rep game ten years now, going on
eleven years, and I'm a multi millionaire, still more relevant
the majority of the rappers that came out in my
general in my generation of my period, my time period.
Ten years later, I'm still making all this money and
still growing. So you know, it's more of a thing
(26:07):
for me, like if if somebody don't take the chance
to make the step or to speak up on it,
then I'm just like everybody else is just complaining behind
closed doors and being scary or just you know what
I'm saying, And then what I was saying it was
not no, It's not make believe. It's simple. It's not
fucking rocket science. It was simple. Shit. If you in
this city and you saying like what you just said,
(26:29):
you just said that it wouldn't be no, it wouldn't
be no Drake without Houston. Okay. So at the time,
why did Drake not and still to this day, why
did Drake not have no bunch of records with Houston artists?
You aren't doing that with Eleanta. If you love Leanta
and he got it's seven, eight, nine, fifteen artists that
you got songs with in Atleanta, because why not only
(26:49):
does it not only does you know that the city
of Atleanta was gonna look at you weird for not
doing that, look at you and feel a certain type
of way by you by you not making those I
was making those moments with the city. But you knew
that it was also beneficial for you as an artist
to make music with these songs because the leveling of
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stardom and momentum it feeds each other. Versus you feel
that I'm just the a side all this this lifting up,
this musician. But as far as the city of Houston,
you're looking at it for the market share. All of
these countries people in Houston, Nigga, all of this land,
all these clubs, all these women, all these people in
these big ass arenas and eventsments go on, but they
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don't have a large community and representatives of people that
are knowledgeable about the music industry, that have resources that
can say, Hey, y'all been around this artist and you
help them. You was in the studio when they was
making that song. You told them to add this and
this on the hook. You get a couple of writer
points for that. You was up and there where you
made the b were supposed to get. Okay, you y'all
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was in the You brought him to Houston, and you
took him there to this club. You took them in
this hood, and you may introduced them to Charlamagne. It's
a feature in the song come behind that in every
other the city. It's a long live California. It's a
long list artist from the Bay all the way to
la They got Drakes with songs with Drake. So how
did Drake love Houston so much at that time and
(28:11):
not have music with artists that you are uplifting from
this community. Fuck me, I don't care if it was
bigger than me. I didn't care about the sign on me.
You know what I'm saying, but what I would like
up and from then to now, Travis Scott is the
only rapper that still got us on with Drake Travis
Scott Again, what I just said earlier, it makes sense.
It's an equal trade. It's not necessarily like, oh bro,
(28:32):
I'm just making it. I'm helping Houston and changing your
life and changing the career your career, and it's bigger
than's it's saying, Oh well, a person wants to Drake
stimulus package, about the fuck out of that. It's about
fair exchange and business. If if you are using the
lineage and the culture of somebody's city, of somebody's hometown
in backyard, do something that helps not yourself and your
(28:54):
your your more of your notoriety for your own benefit
with the ladies and the people in the city. Do
something that actually make still economy of that city in
music and musicians bigger and greater. So therefore we can
have Roland Loud in Houston, we can have more young
artists performing on bigger platforms, Jimmy Filing and Jay Lennon
and all this other shit, because the artist of this
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magnitude is living in our backyard. That's all I was saying,
not just for me, just for anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Did y'all have that conversation, because there was a video
of y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I mean, I vocalized and had whatever I say, whatever
I feel is something that I to anybody and everybody
to they face behind closed, like everybody know this about me.
I don't give a fuck, Like when it comes to
stuff like that, I just don't give a fuck, Like
you know what I'm saying, because I've been rich before rap.
I'm gonna be rich during rap. I'm gonna be rich
after rap. I'm gonna be real. I wrap for money
like I don't wrap for like, Yeah, I wrap for money. Now.
(29:51):
It's because I understand let me say that, let me
make that make sense. I understand that what rapping does
is create money for everybody there around me, not just myself.
And that's what also plays more into the conversation was
having other about the Drake shit, because it's not about Drake,
not tring to be just steady talking about Drake and
harping on him. It's just period in hip hop and
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black culture. Period. If I'm going to foreign land and
I have resources and you have resources that I want
to also generate from, we're supposed to share, we' suposed
to trade, and that's what makes everybody stronger. So it
just doesn't It didn't make sense, and it was just
a total line of disrespect to me at the time,
knowing that this this, this particular and this will be
(30:34):
for any celebrity and artists, this particular superstar, this particular
entity that's in my city can simply make two songs
with two different artists here, that's going to create so
much revenue from ESPN's to the talk shows, to Nikes
and all these huge companies seeing that, Oh wow, there's
(30:55):
there's there's money, there's momentum, there's lucrativeness in the state
of Texas. Look at these artists working with these artists. Okay,
maybe it makes sense for us to run the NBA
campaign behind this song with these artists when we have
Toronto planning against the Houston Rockets, so Toronto playing against
the Dallas Mavericks. We're gonna make sure that these artists
are sitting on the sidelines that we do. And that's
just all that that I understood from a business standpoint
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that that should be happening.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Isn't that required the Houston artists too. I mean, Travis
ain't no slops. Travis is a big.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Deal and and and I vocally publicly have stood on
the business and made Travis adhere to that type of
shit Like that's me and Travis got a real brotherly relationship,
Like it's in Houston. Know that, Like there's been times
was still going on where I asked and require like
Travis bro like it's do this with this artist, or
acknowledge this artist, or like you know what I'm saying,
(31:42):
Let's let's go do this music right here. And Trevis
does it because Trevin understand Like that's the difference, Like
Travis sond artists from Houston. Trevis has made music with
all this from Houston. Traffick show up the music videos
for allis from Houston, old and knew. He do concerts,
put Houston artists on the on the bill, put him
on his main performers. He does his due diligence. Megan A. Stallion,
(32:03):
she does something she had songs with Softwalk. She got
songs with Max o'cran, she got songs with Little key Y,
she got song Bet Poky. That's really being from a city,
being in appreciating the culture of me being in New York.
I love New York. I made a New York album
produced by New York producers with New York artist featured
on it. You just seen Mayno just came through the window.
Oh my boys, Suce I made songs with Mayno years
(32:25):
and years and years ago. No disrespect to bun Bet.
He's from Port Author, He's not from Houston. Make a
lot of people trying to say, oh what Drake made
a sound Bun Bun being not from Houston, No disrespect him.
This is Houston, Texas you was talking about. You just
said Houston. Did you say Port Author? Du say Houston?
All right there.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Next, you made an excellent point too on bootlet keV
podcast that I want I want you to get into
because I really loved it.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You said it's the boule keV.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
You said only fans is providing women with a safer
alternative to the streets and offering them a sense of
intimate freedom.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yes, librate on that. I mean it's it's the alternate.
It's the substitution to prostitution. It's a way for a
woman to give a man the same ecstasy and fulfillment
that he gets touching her body physically. But she could
do it from the comfortability of her home, in a
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living room or in a ballroom and retain the physical
side of her dignity. Now that may be in opinion
from her family's, friends, co workers, and loved ones about
her body being out there on pictures, But again we
talked about earlier were living in the world where the
average woman on the internet is showing you some form
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of skin. The average woman understands the algorithm feeds her
pockets and feeds her marketing strategies much more. Where she
looks appealing and sexually appealing to the eye of not
just men, but the women who inspire to look like her.
These are the things that are beneficial for her market
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place and share to set products because as a woman,
nobody wants to buy. A man will buy a product
from another rough looking man with a scruffy beard and
with the with the woo because of the message behind
the product. A woman not buying a product from another
woman that she doesn't see in some shape of beautiful
the way she looks at herself.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So is that true, Lauren?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, pretty much. When you start talking about that, I
start thinking about it when I get my hair done,
No I did. I didn't even see her.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thinking like I will go get a haircut from about head, motherfucker,
when I would never go get a hair done.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Come on, when I get my hair done to the.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Dread lady, they go get your fune to put in now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
And if I'm trying a new artist, I go to
the Instagram and I want to see how she's doing
her hair personally when she goes out. Maybe she not
dressed up in a salon, but I do want to
see how Sis looks on a daily because it's like,
can she upkeep? Because then if she matched my upkeep,
I know she's not gonna you're not gonna see my HD.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Okay, Okay, I know. I'm sorry. I'm the facts man.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know it's not really I mean, I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I don't know if I care too much, like I
think scrolling online.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I support it, like I do like.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Seeing women in their femininity, but it doesn't like swear
me one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Whether I want to work with you or not.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
I want to work with you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
If you do good work.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh question what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
But I guess for you, like take the like is
she like beautiful or not out?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
There you are brand wise, like there are certain brands
that like if they read to you right now, it's
not where you at. It's not matching aesthetic and you're
not going to you're not leaning that way.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
What kind of what what? What kind of quarter you drive?
If you don't mind me asking, I don't have a car,
okay from New York. Okay, I'm trying to think, like,
what's your favorite fashion brand? What's your favorite thing? Will
fashion over fashion over? Okay?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Really we're fashion over.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I know that I would be flying. I thought i'd
be like thrift store types.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, but that's you see what I'm saying. It still
goes back. You know how fashion over became fashion over
women liking for the women fashion over Give me the
most beautiful women in the world, the most sexiest women
in the world. Closed that look top tier, fashion that
look high end designer. But we're giving it to you
for free or the super affordable price. Exactly all you
(36:21):
have to do is stretch out of a blanket and
fit it across the body, and it can be so
this woman. You put a blanket across the woman's body
and she can go on the wrong with the t
the men that's wearing Louis Vaton and Christian Dior and
all this other shit. That's just the truth. I don't
know how much you a man gotta go spend fifteen
thousand dollars, six thousand, folks, it's very seldom in today's
(36:44):
day and age that a man could go get the
type of women that he wants in this world off
of just a white a white tea, and a nice beard.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Unless you fine, he got.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
To be fine, exactly. I'm gonna look at the jeans,
like the jeans you got on. You got to watch
like what because.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
A lot of women know that to find a fine
man that don't got this ship together ain't nothing but
another beer, responsibility and the problem good dick in the headache.
A lot of women they get they waking up to
that girl.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's not even about money either. It's like I want
to like, it's so, how do you take care of yourself?
Like because you don't even got Yeah, with the change.
I can tell about the jeans like this is a
wells healed.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
A man would look at A man would look at
that same business and the same thing. Like, you know what,
I see some flaws. I see some stuff wrong. But
maybe let me give you some suggestions. Let me help
you see I can make this big thing better. Let
me get involved with this big you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
So I think the girl math basically that's what that's.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
B so, you know, but you know, for me, that's
just how I be looking at stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I like the record. You got rules too, men, because
I feel like there aren't any anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, it ain't nothing, and a lot of people need
to learn from this shit. Earn from this shit. You
know what I'm saying. You rule number one. I always
move like a boss. You know what I'm saying. You know,
h God, damn me. Keep your eyes open. You know
what I'm saying. Fuck the beef, Let's get to the cheese.
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my boy
boss man d lo yeoh man. You know all my
(38:22):
Even when I make a music, it ain't like the
lyrical ghet up gospel stuff. I still try to have
a missage. I still try to have some knowledge and
in some empowerments something that people can learn from and
earn from, you know what I'm saying amongst all the
ignorance and like like we were saying earlier, Like a
lot of people like judge judge me by by my
(38:43):
the way I am and the way I act. But
I act stupid because I'm smarter than a lot of people.
I play dumb because I understand the power that I possess.
In the knowledge that I possess, it's actually dangerous, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, I feel like
this one little life, one chance at this video game
that we got to live, there is a time and
(39:03):
a place for everything. And if you don't understand the
rules and the strategy that needed to be implemented in
the game of life that you're playing, and you're plan
to lose. So you know what I'm saying. I try
to just try to keep that message in my music,
even when we having fun that were in the club
getting high and drunk, and even like as far as
men like, it's a lot of shit that men need
to just like my opinion is not just about women
(39:25):
and shit like that. It's a lot of bullshit ass
niggas out here. It's a lot of unworthy ass niggas,
a lot of not king, not king built deserving men
out here that need to be taught or need to
be there, or need to be influenced.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And so they start projecting that hurt on everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Else, right right right? You know what I'm saying. And
I try to like as much as I have an
opinion towards women, I have an opinion towards niggas as well,
like y'all about how we should not saying saying, y'all,
how we should be better. You know what I'm saying,
how we could be you know, more useful to our
women and into our community and to the world. You
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know what I'm saying. I believe that's what the pimping is.
That what the is and me is period is like
somebody just having a knowledge and the understanding and the
accountability within themselves to say, I'm willing to do all
these things to make myself better. And because I was
able to go through the process of these things to
make myself better and learn these learn these attributes, learn
these skill set if you are going to be in
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my life. If you're going to be in a relationship
in my life, then you have to follow some of
the beliefs that I have because I have used these
things to be successful. You know what I'm saying. That's
just like a person who owns a company. I bought
the building, I put all the equipment up here, but
I'm going to give you the workload as far as
what to do in this building to sell products and
(40:45):
facilitate this store. But I'm the one that got to
pay twenty thousand a month for this facility. I have
to keep the cargo coming in. I have to do this,
but it doesn't make sense for me to be in
here doing the physical work. So I try to use
that same thought process in life, like, Okay, if Nigga's
gonna be around me, you're gonna be my brother, my partner,
(41:08):
my business. I said, Nigga, you gotta be able to
either teach me some, show me some, or help me
do something. And I need to be able to teach
yourself to show you something to help you do something,
because if you can't use me, then I'm useless. If
I can't use you, then you're useless. Then then who
the fucks wants to be in a circle full of
people with know nothing is being utilized. That's idole's time,
(41:29):
I heard. I thought, that's what the devil's playground is,
idle time.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
That's my grandma say. But with such an elevated way
of learning and thinking like, there are still sometimes though,
where like you put yourself on I won't even say
put yourself but you get into some certain situations like
that the high speed chase. How like is that like
a thing of the not happening anymore?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
How does a person that thinks and knows how valuable
you are end up in a situation like that?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Because not perfect?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
All right, whatever makes you comfortable.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm gonna have fun in the joy life Walker, I'll
give it them. But the point of what I'm trying
to say is I'm still a street nigga. Man. I'm
still again, I said, I only rap on the weekends.
I spend a lot of my time in multiple cities
just being out and about in the communities, in multiple
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different trap houses, chilling with rappers, like up and coming rappers,
people who aspire to be rappers. I'm still like in
a grid of it, you know. I might record. I
don't always record in professional studios and backgrounds. Sometimes I'm
recording in some apartments. You know what I'm saying, just
to get that feeling in their true essence of where
I started it with it, you know what I'm saying,
(42:53):
And just to also be motivational piece for people to see,
like you could tell success, you could be like you
see a cyber truck on the internet and sat walk up,
bringing the cyber truck right to your ghetto and right
to your hood. And me having that that connection and
openness to my background and where I come from, is
(43:15):
still indulging in some of the activities that come from
where I come from. Something that simpler and smoking weed
and sip and drink or put you in a position
to where it's like, oh damn, now I'm getting pulled over.
You know what I'm saying. I might be going through
this and that and I still I know I said,
I said, now I'm getting pulled out. You know what
I'm saying, And you know it just be high b
you know what I'm saying. You know, like you know
(43:37):
I was just in a situation where you first of all,
would you know what I'm saying the way that you
know it was just it is what it is. It is.
I'm I would say this, I would say this without
saying too much. I'd say this is that I grew
up where if a car is telling me or following
(44:00):
me fast with all the lights off, I'm trying to
do two things, respond or respond, And in that situation
I was. You know, that was my response. And I've
had a history of responding that way, you know what
I'm saying, in certain and certain cause, and I'm just
growing to change that by myself. But at the end
(44:21):
of the day, you know, it is what it is.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's about when you had the broomstick and the dude
was coming at you with the knife.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm just violent. I'm just no like meaning as far
as like when somebody aggresses me, like brings aggression to me.
I'm just that just how I am finishing. I don't
got security and none of that. I don't do Like
you just seen I come up here with five hundred
thousand other chaina on. I ain't got no big tall
person with black te on and in a little pouch
like yeah, I ain't one of them. Type out my
(44:52):
own security. I beat people up. I've been to the penitentiary.
I've been fighting and defending myself my whole like my
daddy six y five, Like I have no physical fear
of confrontation, death for another man, weapons, gun like I
just offrom off from Here's the taste is a place
where guns or cell phones and wallets. A handgun is
(45:14):
a cell phone. Where I'm from. Where I'm from, every
person in this radio station got a handgun in their
bag every day of their life. Every woman is trained
normally regularly to walk around with a handgun. Every single
one of y'all where I'm from, in the radio station
right now while they're at work. You got your gun.
You got your little pink toy Chris gun. She got
her gun. You know what I'm saying. That's how so
(45:37):
uh for that. That guy was just tripping like it was.
He was a he's a homeless guy drug at it.
He was tweaking on everybody, baring everybody, and then he
came to me and my friend with that ship, and
we just ain't going for this, especially me, Like I
enjoy defending myself, like I I don't want to hear
(45:58):
nobody I don't want to fight nobody. But when these
situations occur, whether it's life or death, I just enjoyed
defending myself because that is who I'm inspired by. Goku,
I'm inspired by vegeta, I'm inspired by why you. I'm
inspired by niggas, people that whoop ass. So when I'm
put in a situation where I gotta whoop ass, I'm
gonna whoop ass. You gonna You're gonna have to whoop me?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Well, when do you give up the screen life styles?
Because you you got a lot to offer.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I mean, my personal opinion, I feel that life has
just I don't think it's ever gonna prohibit the blessing
for me to just completely walk away from the streets
because what I was born into, and by me being
born into this lifestyle, into this way of thinking, and
(46:47):
to these relationships with people, I owe certain lords to
certain relationships, certain accountability of going back to the community
in which I was raised, then in the people that
shared my struggles and be a vessel of cleansing and
(47:09):
healing and teaching and prosperity to them. I have to
go back and be with them. I have to go
in those communities and be a part of the activities
and the struggles and the conversations that's going on and
from where I come from to make a difference. Yeah,
(47:30):
just in general period. Can't you how you do have
to be involved with a criminal aspect. That don't mean
I have to be doing crime. I don't have to
be doing crime, but I have to be able to
If you want to tell somebody to stop sitting and crack,
you have to be able to walk in the crack
house where he's setting dope at and then offer him
another job, another opportunity, another way that we can both
(47:50):
sit at this table. We're going to compare this business opportunity,
this business strategy compared to the scale and the dope,
and I'm going to show you how this is going
to be bore, beneficial and life changing for you than this.
I cannot convince him to do that if I'm not
willing to go into his habitat and his surroundings to
convince him. I pulled up to the trenches in this
car that you want the videos that you in here
selling up to watching and the way that they live
(48:11):
in and these videos, I'm living like that right here
in your face, and I'm telling you that there are
ways for you to use your same hustle, your same strategy,
and infuse that with a different way of creating money.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, but you got to tell them jump in the calls,
go to a restaurant because I can't sit in the
track out the police come in here. They're not gonna says,
walkers in here, opportunity.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
That's just a certain that's just a scenario that makes sense.
But I still got to meet you at ground zero.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
We'll tell people put the guns down. But it's like
people are literally that you got it's me or you sometimes.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Exactly, it comes it comes to these places where we're
getting shot at all day to understand why we have
these guns now exactly, that's just like that's just like
me with the box and shit. Okay, like you want
want fuckers to stop shooting guns and all that, But
then you also have to show them that you're willing
to do what I don't what I want. I'm willing
to do what I'm asking you to do. I'm willing
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to make the change, or I've already made the change,
or I'm willing to take the risk, and I'm suggesting
for you to take and I'm trying to make it
look cool, look look respectable, look fun, look honorable, to
where you can stay. Have a two black men, the
two brown men, two men of color of any ethnicity
of color, can have a physical few, have a fight,
(49:28):
have a disagreement, and we both go home to our
families and our children.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Being able to go back to ground zero. I think
is just like, though you're you've elevated, you know you're
still humble. And then I kind of wanted to pivot
back to you talking about the rules, and somewhere in
this conversation you're also talking about pouring into your community,
Like where did you get all of all of your
your coding, like your ethics, Because.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I really come from a lot of nothing. And when
I say that, I mean like I grew up in
a or motherless home, not a fatherless home.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
And but you your mom was a strip your words,
a scripple.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
My mom was a whole. My mom was a prostitute.
My mom was a dancer. Mama was exact a dancer.
My mom was also a gangster. My mom was also
a hustler, you know what I'm saying. So my father
was was aspiring athlete, aspiring football player aspiring wrestler. He
never made it like you know what I'm saying to
the top, or like my dad is not like no
(50:30):
household name wrestler that you know. His name my dad
names is our rage Walker's not any of these other
guys that you know. People look at his spectacles of
millionaires and even though it's wrestlers, them niggas really broke
to honestly. But yeah, I grew up where cocaine, crack, heroin,
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the aroma of it being cooked and prepared to be
used as like air freshen in the living room to
me type shit for a large period of time. Then
there's a period of time after that where my mother
just wasn't present in my life at all for twelve
thirteen years. And I'm just growing up as with a
single father trying to chase his dream, raise me, raise
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another woman's family that he married, and also pay child
support on me while I'm in his living room. You
see how your face, you see how you see that,
you see your face that I know exactly. It's crazy
as fucking it, don't It barely makes sense to do it.
But that's the world we live in. Because of a
woman asks for child support and got the documentation needed
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necess say she's going to get that payment whether you
raising the child or not, because the government sees what
they see it and it's a long process to undo
this process and make them see and realize whatever. But
I say that to say with the struggles and the
harshess that I grew up, but not just on my parents,
because that's just parenting, just the surroundings around me. The
first time I seen people get shot and shoot each
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other and like that, I'm seven six. Then I grew
up in a mixture of two very very wild places.
My mom from Chicago, my dad from Houston, Texas. So like, yeah,
like I just seen it. I've experienced my uncle of pim.
My uncle's is dope fiends, my grandny is alcohol my
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grandmother in Houston, and my dad is one hundred percent.
During my mama, my grandmother's from the cyber Honduras, I
watched my grandmama died from alcohol poison it from just
being an over alcoholic and my grandma died like four
days before my sixth birthday type shit. So like and
she was teaching me Spanish, like it was just so
much shit that I saw struggle young. It matured me
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like my childhood was down there, ripped from me from
just all the experiences that I've been through, So it
forced me to mature early. That's another reason why I'm
so childish and I laughed so much and I have
so much fun as an adult and on the internet,
is because like growing up to me, I never liked
watching movies like uh Minister Society and The Nino Brown
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and Boys in the Hood and all that ship because
I'm really living at like, how can I find enjoyment
and entertainment from black struggling and black poverty and making
humorous moments of it when I'm I really got the
the Ezekiel and my doorstep getting drunk. I'm really living
around debos and Craigs and like and like this ship,
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my mama is wanted, my mama is a Felicia? How
is that funny? How How is this like? How is
this escape of my mind? How is this u a
visual pleasing moment to my young mentality? When this is
my everyday reality. That's not no fucking entertainment that's systematically
progragramming me to continuously be what I already am living
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or to think that that's fun.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
You're breaking the cycle now.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I am because because why because I want to be Goku.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Did you want to.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
Say this conversation is definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
But I'm the Internet, I'm the dumb dripping Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Again, man, we gotta we got another interview. But we
definitely enjoyed the conversation. But soft Father two is out now,
and whatever you else got going on, Man, when you're
in New York, pull up on us.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, man, soft Father two right now. It's a business.
Shout out to my record, but shou out to my friends.
Shout out to the Breakfast Club for having me here.
You know, it's been a long time coming. Man. I
appreciate you having me here. I appreciate me to you,
young beautiful lady. Tonight to follow you. So just put
your hands together and pray to the Saugus to say,
I need some flight, I need some saving, I need
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the sauce. It's gonna find you and I gotta I
gotta part. She asked me about my podcast. I got
a podcast coming to man, Sauce Me Up podcast. Follow
us on YouTube, man, Sast me Up podcast. It's coming soon. Man.
Hopefully I get some of y'all to be a guest
one day.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Saut Walker, the Breakfast Club wake
Speaker 2 (55:00):
That airs up early in the morning at Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club, Yep,
it's the World's most Dangerous Morning. Short to Breakfast Club,
Charlamagne the god Enva is in a shreport with with
fifty cent in the game. But Laura Lenro says, here,
nihlis some moons here and we got a special guest.
He's got a new album out. Sauce Father to Sauce Walker,
what's up my brother?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And ain't say, Man, it's the kid that did not
the kid that didn't the reason why the Sauce Wire
was reading, you know the flag. But I'm speaking Sauce Walker.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, yeah, people act like they know what you just.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I always do it that. I never say nothing that
I don't do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You know, I think people don't realize about you, Sauce Walker.
You really are a dope ass rapper.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Thank you appressure like an mc MC life.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But I think the.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Online personality sometimes overshadows the boss.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's more of a
thing like don't judge a book by its cover, but
also what we'd like to say in my and my
cool we'd like to say, don't let the souse full you.
You know what I'm saying, but also as well, you know,
I kind of felt like a lot of artists and
a lot of rappers put on this persona and they
put on this image, but like you always got to
be tough, for you always gotta be uh. It's just
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like on some some some some street shit, you know
what I'm saying, Like you can't just enjoy life for
be humorous or have uh, just have fun. And you
know what I'm saying, enjoy life for what it is.
And I always be so serious and for me and
my personal experience, I feel like when you really come
from the struggle, when you really come from violence, when
you really come from pain and suffering, and you get
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to a platform like Instagram, this app was made to
like pictures and make memories and have fun, and just
so happened it became a platform where people could create,
uh lucrative ways of generating residual incoming wealth off of
you know what I'm saying, creating a wider audience through
a platform. And I felt like, why would I use
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Instagram as a place to try to be like overly see,
it's overly hard when I'm trying to reach out to
the world. You know what I'm saying. Not mad at that,
That's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not mad at that because some people do like
I shouldn't know certain things about certain people. Yeah, like
I shouldn't know your baby daddy ain't been around in
six months, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And the kids can't afford healthcare?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They make me laugh. When I first got on their platform,
I thought, this is a platform to find pretty girls
and stuff like that. It just became, it grew and
blossom to be what it is today. But you know,
I was on Instagram where you can only take pictures
and one NIC's outfit. So I feel like I grew
with the platform. So I'm enjoy and have fun on
the platform and it made me millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Do you feel like you're because when I was I
listened to we were talking about earlier some of your interviews,
and I listened to how you were talking about how
you like do like the promotions sometimes for other artists
and whatever, and I was like, this is how like
an influencer works. Like do you consider yourself an influencer too?
Or like it's just you?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean to be honest, I only wrap on the weekends.
I'm keep it real. I'm more of a lot of
things than an artist. I'm a CEO, I'm a I'm
a philanthropist in my community. I'm a motive, motivational speaker
and financial advisor consulting for a lot of people in
different companies as well. I own six different LLC's, two corporations.
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I sell boats all all forms of streaming up from
being a YouTuber with TikToker only fans rapping like I've done,
I do it. I've done it all that's within my
respected realm of hustling, you know what I mean. So
rapping is just something that's first nature to me because
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I've been doing in my whole life. I've been recording
in professional studios is nineteen ninety six, when I was
like six years old. I've been wrapping my whole life.
Is just something that I just do with that I'm
good at. But I happened to be one of those
people that's just tendented enough to where I can do
anything and still be successful make means of dollars of conversation.
I could be making me as a dollars podcasting, comedian, acting.
(04:03):
I'm just one of those stars with just multitanted but rapping.
It's a strong suit that I have lyrically, and that
it does get overshadowed and overlook because I'm self charismatic,
you know what I'm saying. But you know it's a
gifting of courage because you know, it's certain areas where
it calls to have intelligence, conversation and charisma, and a
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lot of artists don't have that in those areas. So
you may have good music and a good song that
lasts momentarily, but you don't laugh last for a lifetime
because people not invested to you as a person, as
a as a human being more than just your music.
You know, music is subjective. Sometimes it's good, sometimes people
don't care for it. But everybody always loves a great
personality in a great mind.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But does it get to you sometimes? Like when you
just drop that frees, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah and our knock life yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Like and people were like, yo, he really be going,
and like it's like almost like people are always relearning
that that's what you do. Naturally. Does that piss you
sometimes because it's like you do this?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean honestly, I always been one of them type
of people. That's like I've been taking my flowers my
entire career. I'm sure the man is. I don't know
how familiar y'all are with me, but I know so
the main very familiar with my career. They've been we've
been talking to each other and trying to get me
up here for years, since early early in my career
when I was doing the Sauce Twins. So I've always
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known and I've always been very vocal and confident about
the fact that I know I'm one of the best
rappers to ever live, not just of my generation or
not just from Texas, like I know for a million percent.
In fact, lyrically ball for ball, similar for similarly analogy
for analogy, metaphor for metaphor storytelling having actual substance, meaning
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a message that people can actually grab knowledge, wholesomness, information
from pain, struggle and healing through the things that we
go through being black people in America, coming from poverty,
coming from struggle, broken broken parenting, or taking the struggle
part out of it, but just elite punchline skills and
delivery and catuses like I've shown over my ten year
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spanning my career that I'm not only I'm one of
the best, but I'm also one of the most prolific
rappers to come out of my generation and generations before me,
and then being there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
He's not putting sauce on that I'm not. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I'm from the South, and I'm from the South.
I'm from Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying. I'm
from the same place as Scar fights the Cowboys, is it.
And I'm looked at. I'm renowned, respected by New York
and New York rappers more than anywhere else. My biggest
market is New York. Houston or well, Texas is my
first market and then New York is my second.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Maybe you should give him a quick sixteen just just
because before we keep keep the interview going.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I mean I could, but I really not a I'm
a I'm a freestyle rapper. I don't like had them
right ritten balls.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can give him something that you've already given them before,
just so they know, just a little sample you have
A ain't ever heard sauce walking rap.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Must be I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think I think yeah, but I would love to
hear the person you trying to get.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Out of it. I ain't never dripping about it. I mean,
you know it is.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The weekend, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, if I'm a freestyle you know, I want
to be like really on their mood and perform like
you know what I'm saying. I really can't to talk,
but I will like it ain't nothing to it but
to do it. It ain't nothing. You know what I'm
saying about freestyle. Right now, I'm gonna be like mom,
some ace time ship, but more than some sid ship.
I'm gonna like get the wrapping about the stuff in
the room. I'm hide in the broom being this look
(07:38):
up like a balloon. Come out the cocoon and fly
it in the butter tusef business pulled up No study
alligator now later slepter hater. You know what I'm saying,
being the sauce dripping major flavor Like I'm gonna just
go out the top like.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No I need to because he can really wrap.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I know that that hen just talking about things.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
You were talking about all your many business ventures and
all the things that you do. In the first record
on Sopot the two is master p and I really
love the relationship between Texas.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Uh, just talk to me about your your relationship with
master P Song.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And what you think. But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm a I'm a master P and in a lot
of different areas, you know what I'm saying. And I
respect the direction and some of the principles that master
P implemented in his career to get where he is.
And I also feel that, and I've been told this
by some of the label execs and people that I
do do business with or have done business within the industry,
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that some of the deal structures that I've created are
kind of like master P deals because it's like very
rare where artists can sign a deal with an any
major label or major label, get millions of dollars and
still keep his entire catalog separated from that contractual agreement
and having a record label with I got fifty fifty artists,
(09:20):
well producers of artists as well, but forty some artists
and ten producers signed to my record label, my distribution company,
and I have u those forty some are artists. Probably
like seven or eight of those artists are international from
like here, Shima, Japan, Puerto Rico, Venezuela Europe. So like,
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I think that I've created a cult fan base and
the following somewhat similar to No Limit and Master P
with Saucewalker and the Sauce Family. T yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But in that song you're talking about pimping.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I mean, I'm always talking about the pimping. I mean,
but you know, it's the P is a lot of things.
It's being a pimp, is being a players, being a president,
is being prestigious, it's being professional, it's being power, It's
being a lot of things being a p You know
what I'm saying, And I represent all of those titles
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very well. But I'm who created P.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It come from Texas or they come from.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Saying the TURNP pushing P. Well, I don't push P.
What we do is something different. The p itself don't
come from no no rappers or none of that. The
psself come from the game. It comes from a man
with a plan and a woman with a vagina that's
a little bit finer. That's what the P comes from.
All the other stuff is like fabricated or extra like
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you can make it sound cool, like saying you're pushing paper.
You know what I'm saying that that was like about
the most decent explanations that I feel that that that
that that that was given from that perspective. But you know,
the p is to be the ultimate player, you know
what I'm saying. And there's two sides of it. You
can be a player, you can be a pimp, you
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know what I'm saying. A pimp is somebody who leads
and tells people or gives a person a task or
a strategy to go make money. However you make money.
It's not just about a woman getting money from a man.
And you know what I'm saying, it's not just about
sex and positive it's way bigger than that. A woman
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can or a woman or any person can go and
make money doing somebody else's will, doing somebody else's strategy.
But you can look at that persons they're too lazy
to do the job, or they not maybe may not
have the skills, not the skills, but they just can't
do what you can do. It's like you have a
lot of bosses that work on the field where it
was a pit of time where they did used to
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do what everybody does, but they just learned the business
and now they just manage and tell everybody what else
to do while they're just there. That's all a pimp
is as a manager, somebody that gives you instructions to
do something that either they know how to do or
they prefer to you to do it, and they just
evaluate what you're doing like a coach, a life coach.
A player, though, is somebody who fuck with people that
already got the money. I just play my way into
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the situation. You know what I'm saying. A lot of
those cases, the woman is the player exactly. So why
would you not PAYMP when all women are playing on men?
And respectfully though respectfully and it not into to not
say that it's a negative thing, but to not acknowledge
the fact that the world in society is systematically created
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to where a woman it's not even necessarily by her
her choice and her own decisions, but just the way
that the world is. If she's able to be beautiful
and perpetuate her image, opportunities, relationships, and the lust of
the hope that a man would have some type of
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intimacy with this woman opens up a whole different doors
for this woman that the average man and the average
human being cannot get past. It changes a woman whole
trajectory of life. Women growing up in today's day age
are preparing themselves to be it's not I don't even
it's not even an Instagram model, it's just, let's just say,
(13:23):
a bad bitch. Women are more training themselves in today's
name era to be a bad bitch on social media,
on YouTube, or just the everyday walk of life than
they are training themselves to be a business owner or
to be a a fucking a college student.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The women you're talking to, because you also got women
who are training themselves to do that, but they're also.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Bad but then went to college.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, okay, so this again, again, again again again. Okay,
Michael Jordan played, Michael Jordan play baseball, but he's still
a basketball player. Deon Sanders played baseball, He's still a
football player. A lot of women have the in certain
and so also men go through this as well. But
the thing about it is that beauty is not usually
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or being handsome or being attractive is not usually profitable
for every single man on earth the way that it
is for women, meaning that, okay, look at it from
this perspective, Sex for a man's earned this morning. Sex
for a woman is given. You understand the difference between
the two. For a man to court a woman, for
a man that has sexual intercourse, for a man to
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enjoy a woman's uh intimacy and vulnerability, he has to
earn that privilege and earn that right for me, nor
they don't. So I'm not saying, y'all for all women
in general. What I'm saying is that a woman can
have her plans and her goal set out. Let's just
say a woman in real estate, right, you have two
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different women in real estate. You have a beautiful woman
that's in real estate. You have another woman who is
also beautiful, but let's just say let's just say she's
plus sized, or let's just say she's a little older.
She can have the same body type as a young woman,
but she's a little older. To give another age and
not make it about body shaming. Okay, the more in shape,
beautiful presented body inside of those business suits, she's going
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to get a lot of more brokering deals. She's going
to get a lot of more inquiries. She's going to
get a lot of more men who are going to
be helpful in assisting in her journey as being a
real estate agent, because all of those men have a
secret agenda to in some way tape or form have
sex with her.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And we know that. And yeah, we know that. We
know pretty privilege exists, and a lot of times we
ignore it.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's all I'm saying, rubbing her head and she know
he telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Didn't say anything. The only thing I didn't agree with.
I think it's the way you phrased it. But understanding
the break that I get what you're saying. I just
don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm not saying that every woman in the world is
like it is the divine in just to like, Okay,
I'm finna just go make money. Just that's that's what
was the worst systematically does not want to be a
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bad bitch in today's damn era.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's like, but a bad bitch is different than so
all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Beautiful woman, every woman is seeing something. Every woman is beautiful,
bad it is something different. Every woman is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Beautiful conversation we had this morning, because what I was
talking about this morning was like, you know, they were
saying that I get mad when certain women be like,
I ain't dating no man if you can't do nothing
for me, that's not true. It's a mutually beneficial thing, right,
Everybody gonna do something everybody, but the raggedy ones be talking.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
The raggety ones that be like, I ain't doing nothing,
somebody ain't doing nothing for me. Ain't nobody going to
do nothing for you? Because you're raggedy?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I feel I feel that, I feel that. As much
as I want to agree with what you're saying, I
can't agree with that because it's again, that's why it
goes best to my resinal statement. There are more men
that are in positions of power, positions of success, that
also have families, half wives, have children, have great things
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going for theyself, that risk everything that they have. For women,
there's raggedy every day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
They don't never cheat with nobody better.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay. So with that being said, so they'd be saying
how much how much value is actually being set on
the man and in his position of what he brings
to the type in the relationship, versus to what a
woman brings to the type of by just being a
beautiful flower in the room. That's just the word, that's
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just the that's just the way. And I don't blame
the women or fought the women at all for it,
because that's their species, that's their femininity. That if them
being beautiful creates opportunities and open doors and gives gives
them privileges that the man doesn't necessarily earn, then you
just respect the powers that be. But if you happen
to be one of those alpha males wanted because you
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were thinking about this, you have to also realize that
a woman is only the prize to the men that
want her. A woman is never the prize to the
man that she want.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Oh that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What I'm saying. A woman is never the prize to
the man that she wants. She's only a prize to
the men that want her. Because in most cases in life,
most men cannot have sex and physical relationships at their
own will with the women that they truly desire. Like
they have to get what they can get. That's why
some guys you'll be like, you may look at this
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guy like, oh, this guy is so handsome and he's
so successful, he so why would he fuck with this
type of girl? Why would he give why would he
portray this type of girl? Whatever? But you have to
understand it, he's probably not even in most cases they're
not used to having access to so much women because
they didn't have so much money, or didn't have so
much time, or didn't have so much whatever that they
had that was conflicting from expressing their sexual needs attracting
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with other women. So now that they have the or
come a little tied with this, my stuff is kind
of put together. Now. I want to go cheat, I
want to go explore.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I want to do this, or you might have been
lucky enough to me just sold me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And I think I get what you're saying, but I
think everything isn't physical appearance. A lot of times, sometimes
it's just about connecting with a person on an emotional
level or a spiritual level.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But you got to take the time to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But I do agree with the overall sentiment that you're
making because I was saying that this morning, men literally
recreate our lives for women. That true, everything we do
is for women. I wouldn't get a headcut. I don't
care about that we.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Dress for women.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We do these things because we're trying to attract beautiful women.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
That's just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Or or even if it's not necessary to check certain women,
it's about a woman just valuing and respecting who I
am as a man, how I present myself. If I
respect myself enough to stay clean, stay in shape, stay cut, state,
making money of having a car, having opportunity, having stabidity,
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having somewhere for you to sleep, state, even if you
have all these things on your own as a woman
that you bring to the table. But again, a man
will take you without those things a woman won't take.
In most cases, a woman won't take a man without
those things. And if she does, then she has to
be ridiculed about the women and the femine members around her,
because girl, whilere you fucking with that nigga? With that guy,
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he done got this and this and that, and you
take care of him this and this and that, instead
of empowering her and saying, Okay, well he this man
really loves you and he want to be with you,
and he comes home every night. So put that other
energy into that. You take it down from that man.
How can I help him be bigger and better and stronger,
because this God does, actually does want to be committed
to what I have going on versus to I think
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people just be going I don't even want to say
going out of their means. But it's just I don't
know that relationship shit gets. It's what it's tedious.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So you're talking about like people becoming like popping, right
and things changing. When did you realize like you were popping?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like I was born, I was popping. I knew I
was propping. I ain't know no, just just I knew
I was him my whole life. I've been him him.
I came out to womb him, I've been I've been
like a start my whole life. Like I said earlier,
I've been wrapping my whole life. I never was like
one of those kids that was like confused about what
I wanted to be when I grew up or what
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was gonna happen for me. Like I always knew I
was gonna be an entertainer. I always know I was
gonna be a rapper. I always knew I was gonna
be flys. I know, and I was handsome my whole life.
I always knew that that was even say that for me,
like I understand the difference between being a handsome man
but just a man that don't have natural you know
what I'm saying, the ability to just captivate a woman's attention.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Don't want to tell nobody ugly for nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I really enjoyed the conversation you have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Said you said, I don't want to call anybody ugly.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You ain't wanna call the girl.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm so I've been saying certain stuff about with girls
or just with people in there. People just wanting to
attack me from my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But everybody checking.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh man, he's so informative, Like I would love to
watch a podcast on top of then some of that.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Should I say, sometimes you be calling like you be
calling people out for stuff like that's what I when
I hear your name, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Like it is. I know not I've been going to
change that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
The Drake moment was the moment.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's when a lot of people know me from controversial
ship like that. Yeah, yeah, i'mnn stand on the business
regardless of whoever whatever you call.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's funny though, because you called Drake Off a cultural
appropriation way before Kendrick did.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I did. I did. I definitely did. And if my
if my whole city would have supported what I was
on back then for the reasons that I did it,
then we would have got the same reaction that Kendrick
Lamore in California did, and I think it's just a
beautiful thing with again no discredit to either one or artists,
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because again I have nothing to do with that shit,
and I don't give a fuck about that shit because
I'm a millionaire, I'm Southwalker, and I made it. I
beat the black ball of the rap games of those
typeosittion scenarios. But to speak on that particular situation is
that it's just a beautiful thing to see the outcome
of an entire city and then entire state standing behind
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the artist that represents them, will it represents the culture
and just trying to defend for their culture and the
culture itself, not trying to mediate or prohibit their artists
from fending for their culture, but instead standing behind them
and supporting that ideal. And that's the difference between appreciation
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and appropriation, and that's what creates a bigger landscape of
economy and opportunity for that city, because regardless of New
York is the same way if somebody was to come
to New York and try to appropriate New York culching
and style and not give back to it. Like, I
don't know who's a good example to use, but because
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nobody does that in fuck New York. Nobody come to
New York and act like a battle rapper, or act
like a lyricist, or act like a fucking drill rapper
out there. Don't do music with the drill rappers. Don't
come rap with you cannot do that. It doesn't make sense.
You can't. When everybody was doing this little this ship
and doing that little Jersey dance. Nobody from around the
(24:31):
world did that dance or made music on that sound
frequency without acknowledging that it came from those places of
bringing those kids from New Jersey on stage or in
the East Coast is going to govern that the South
was in Texas, Houston especially was supposed to govern government.
And you know what I'm saying, it's cool. Look, somebody
(24:52):
got to do it, and I did it. I ain't
tripping them. Bro.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Don't you think Houston probably looks at Drake different because
there wouldn't be Houston.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't give a fuck what Houston look at it.
It's what I said. I'm a j prince too, Like
what I'm my world is a law. What I'm saying
is what I speak is the real opinions of the
city of Houston, the people that's in the south side,
the people that's on the north side, the people that
they just ain't got the platform or the voice or
(25:22):
the the not gonna get the response, and I'm gonna
get in. They can't faith the heat, faith the water.
Everybody know, I got the manpower, I got the money,
I had the well with the validity, whatever this needed
necessary from my age then to right now. Just like
I've shown people, it's a lot of people that thought
I was gonna be overnight or fly by night artists
or artist that. And then you also understand realized that
(25:44):
I'm independent. I've been independent my entire rap career ten years.
I've been in rep game ten years now, going on
eleven years, and I'm a multi millionaire, still more relevant
the majority of the rappers that came out in my
general in my generation of my period, my time period.
Ten years later, I'm still making all this money and
still growing. So you know, it's more of a thing
(26:07):
for me, like if if somebody don't take the chance
to make the step or to speak up on it,
then I'm just like everybody else is just complaining behind
closed doors and being scary or just you know what
I'm saying, And then what I was saying it was
not no, It's not make believe. It's simple. It's not
fucking rocket science. It was simple. Shit. If you in
this city and you saying like what you just said,
(26:29):
you just said that it wouldn't be no, it wouldn't
be no Drake without Houston. Okay. So at the time,
why did Drake not and still to this day, why
did Drake not have no bunch of records with Houston artists?
You aren't doing that with Eleanta. If you love Leanta
and he got it's seven, eight, nine, fifteen artists that
you got songs with in Atleanta, because why not only
(26:49):
does it not only does you know that the city
of Atleanta was gonna look at you weird for not
doing that, look at you and feel a certain type
of way by you by you not making those I
was making those moments with the city. But you knew
that it was also beneficial for you as an artist
to make music with these songs because the leveling of
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stardom and momentum it feeds each other. Versus you feel
that I'm just the a side all this this lifting up,
this musician. But as far as the city of Houston,
you're looking at it for the market share. All of
these countries people in Houston, Nigga, all of this land,
all these clubs, all these women, all these people in
these big ass arenas and eventsments go on, but they
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don't have a large community and representatives of people that
are knowledgeable about the music industry, that have resources that
can say, Hey, y'all been around this artist and you
help them. You was in the studio when they was
making that song. You told them to add this and
this on the hook. You get a couple of writer
points for that. You was up and there where you
made the b were supposed to get. Okay, you y'all
(27:51):
was in the You brought him to Houston, and you
took him there to this club. You took them in
this hood, and you may introduced them to Charlamagne. It's
a feature in the song come behind that in every
other the city. It's a long live California. It's a
long list artist from the Bay all the way to
la They got Drakes with songs with Drake. So how
did Drake love Houston so much at that time and
(28:11):
not have music with artists that you are uplifting from
this community. Fuck me, I don't care if it was
bigger than me. I didn't care about the sign on me.
You know what I'm saying, but what I would like
up and from then to now, Travis Scott is the
only rapper that still got us on with Drake Travis
Scott Again, what I just said earlier, it makes sense.
It's an equal trade. It's not necessarily like, oh bro,
(28:32):
I'm just making it. I'm helping Houston and changing your
life and changing the career your career, and it's bigger
than's it's saying, Oh well, a person wants to Drake
stimulus package, about the fuck out of that. It's about
fair exchange and business. If if you are using the
lineage and the culture of somebody's city, of somebody's hometown
in backyard, do something that helps not yourself and your
(28:54):
your your more of your notoriety for your own benefit
with the ladies and the people in the city. Do
something that actually make still economy of that city in
music and musicians bigger and greater. So therefore we can
have Roland Loud in Houston, we can have more young
artists performing on bigger platforms, Jimmy Filing and Jay Lennon
and all this other shit, because the artist of this
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magnitude is living in our backyard. That's all I was saying,
not just for me, just for anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Did y'all have that conversation, because there was a video
of y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I mean, I vocalized and had whatever I say, whatever
I feel is something that I to anybody and everybody
to they face behind closed, like everybody know this about me.
I don't give a fuck, Like when it comes to
stuff like that, I just don't give a fuck, Like
you know what I'm saying, because I've been rich before rap.
I'm gonna be rich during rap. I'm gonna be rich
after rap. I'm gonna be real. I wrap for money
like I don't wrap for like, Yeah, I wrap for money. Now.
(29:51):
It's because I understand let me say that, let me
make that make sense. I understand that what rapping does
is create money for everybody there around me, not just myself.
And that's what also plays more into the conversation was
having other about the Drake shit, because it's not about Drake,
not tring to be just steady talking about Drake and
harping on him. It's just period in hip hop and
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black culture. Period. If I'm going to foreign land and
I have resources and you have resources that I want
to also generate from, we're supposed to share, we' suposed
to trade, and that's what makes everybody stronger. So it
just doesn't It didn't make sense, and it was just
a total line of disrespect to me at the time,
knowing that this this, this particular and this will be
(30:34):
for any celebrity and artists, this particular superstar, this particular
entity that's in my city can simply make two songs
with two different artists here, that's going to create so
much revenue from ESPN's to the talk shows, to Nikes
and all these huge companies seeing that, Oh wow, there's
(30:55):
there's there's money, there's momentum, there's lucrativeness in the state
of Texas. Look at these artists working with these artists. Okay,
maybe it makes sense for us to run the NBA
campaign behind this song with these artists when we have
Toronto planning against the Houston Rockets, so Toronto playing against
the Dallas Mavericks. We're gonna make sure that these artists
are sitting on the sidelines that we do. And that's
just all that that I understood from a business standpoint
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that that should be happening.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Isn't that required the Houston artists too. I mean, Travis
ain't no slops. Travis is a big.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Deal and and and I vocally publicly have stood on
the business and made Travis adhere to that type of
shit Like that's me and Travis got a real brotherly relationship,
Like it's in Houston. Know that, Like there's been times
was still going on where I asked and require like
Travis bro like it's do this with this artist, or
acknowledge this artist, or like you know what I'm saying,
(31:42):
Let's let's go do this music right here. And Trevis
does it because Trevin understand Like that's the difference, Like
Travis sond artists from Houston. Trevis has made music with
all this from Houston. Traffick show up the music videos
for allis from Houston, old and knew. He do concerts,
put Houston artists on the on the bill, put him
on his main performers. He does his due diligence. Megan A. Stallion,
(32:03):
she does something she had songs with Softwalk. She got
songs with Max o'cran, she got songs with Little key Y,
she got song Bet Poky. That's really being from a city,
being in appreciating the culture of me being in New York.
I love New York. I made a New York album
produced by New York producers with New York artist featured
on it. You just seen Mayno just came through the window.
Oh my boys, Suce I made songs with Mayno years
(32:25):
and years and years ago. No disrespect to bun Bet.
He's from Port Author, He's not from Houston. Make a
lot of people trying to say, oh what Drake made
a sound Bun Bun being not from Houston, No disrespect him.
This is Houston, Texas you was talking about. You just
said Houston. Did you say Port Author? Du say Houston?
All right there.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Next, you made an excellent point too on bootlet keV
podcast that I want I want you to get into
because I really loved it.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You said it's the boule keV.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
You said only fans is providing women with a safer
alternative to the streets and offering them a sense of
intimate freedom.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yes, librate on that. I mean it's it's the alternate.
It's the substitution to prostitution. It's a way for a
woman to give a man the same ecstasy and fulfillment
that he gets touching her body physically. But she could
do it from the comfortability of her home, in a
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living room or in a ballroom and retain the physical
side of her dignity. Now that may be in opinion
from her family's, friends, co workers, and loved ones about
her body being out there on pictures, But again we
talked about earlier were living in the world where the
average woman on the internet is showing you some form
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of skin. The average woman understands the algorithm feeds her
pockets and feeds her marketing strategies much more. Where she
looks appealing and sexually appealing to the eye of not
just men, but the women who inspire to look like her.
These are the things that are beneficial for her market
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place and share to set products because as a woman,
nobody wants to buy. A man will buy a product
from another rough looking man with a scruffy beard and
with the with the woo because of the message behind
the product. A woman not buying a product from another
woman that she doesn't see in some shape of beautiful
the way she looks at herself.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So is that true, Lauren?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, pretty much. When you start talking about that, I
start thinking about it when I get my hair done,
No I did. I didn't even see her.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thinking like I will go get a haircut from about head, motherfucker,
when I would never go get a hair done.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Come on, when I get my hair done to the.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Dread lady, they go get your fune to put in now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
And if I'm trying a new artist, I go to
the Instagram and I want to see how she's doing
her hair personally when she goes out. Maybe she not
dressed up in a salon, but I do want to
see how Sis looks on a daily because it's like,
can she upkeep? Because then if she matched my upkeep,
I know she's not gonna you're not gonna see my HD.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Okay, Okay, I know. I'm sorry. I'm the facts man.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know it's not really I mean, I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I don't know if I care too much, like I
think scrolling online.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I support it, like I do like.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Seeing women in their femininity, but it doesn't like swear
me one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Whether I want to work with you or not.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
I want to work with you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
If you do good work.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh question what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
But I guess for you, like take the like is
she like beautiful or not out?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
There you are brand wise, like there are certain brands
that like if they read to you right now, it's
not where you at. It's not matching aesthetic and you're
not going to you're not leaning that way.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
What kind of what what? What kind of quarter you drive?
If you don't mind me asking, I don't have a car,
okay from New York. Okay, I'm trying to think, like,
what's your favorite fashion brand? What's your favorite thing? Will
fashion over fashion over? Okay?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Really we're fashion over.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I know that I would be flying. I thought i'd
be like thrift store types.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, but that's you see what I'm saying. It still
goes back. You know how fashion over became fashion over
women liking for the women fashion over Give me the
most beautiful women in the world, the most sexiest women
in the world. Closed that look top tier, fashion that
look high end designer. But we're giving it to you
for free or the super affordable price. Exactly all you
(36:21):
have to do is stretch out of a blanket and
fit it across the body, and it can be so
this woman. You put a blanket across the woman's body
and she can go on the wrong with the t
the men that's wearing Louis Vaton and Christian Dior and
all this other shit. That's just the truth. I don't
know how much you a man gotta go spend fifteen
thousand dollars, six thousand, folks, it's very seldom in today's
(36:44):
day and age that a man could go get the
type of women that he wants in this world off
of just a white a white tea, and a nice beard.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Unless you fine, he got.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
To be fine, exactly. I'm gonna look at the jeans,
like the jeans you got on. You got to watch
like what because.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
A lot of women know that to find a fine
man that don't got this ship together ain't nothing but
another beer, responsibility and the problem good dick in the headache.
A lot of women they get they waking up to
that girl.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's not even about money either. It's like I want
to like, it's so, how do you take care of yourself?
Like because you don't even got Yeah, with the change.
I can tell about the jeans like this is a
wells healed.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
A man would look at A man would look at
that same business and the same thing. Like, you know what,
I see some flaws. I see some stuff wrong. But
maybe let me give you some suggestions. Let me help
you see I can make this big thing better. Let
me get involved with this big you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
So I think the girl math basically that's what that's.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
B so, you know, but you know, for me, that's
just how I be looking at stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I like the record. You got rules too, men, because
I feel like there aren't any anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, it ain't nothing, and a lot of people need
to learn from this shit. Earn from this shit. You
know what I'm saying. You rule number one. I always
move like a boss. You know what I'm saying. You know,
h God, damn me. Keep your eyes open. You know
what I'm saying. Fuck the beef, Let's get to the cheese.
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my boy
boss man d lo yeoh man. You know all my
(38:22):
Even when I make a music, it ain't like the
lyrical ghet up gospel stuff. I still try to have
a missage. I still try to have some knowledge and
in some empowerments something that people can learn from and
earn from, you know what I'm saying amongst all the
ignorance and like like we were saying earlier, Like a
lot of people like judge judge me by by my
(38:43):
the way I am and the way I act. But
I act stupid because I'm smarter than a lot of people.
I play dumb because I understand the power that I possess.
In the knowledge that I possess, it's actually dangerous, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, I feel like
this one little life, one chance at this video game
that we got to live, there is a time and
(39:03):
a place for everything. And if you don't understand the
rules and the strategy that needed to be implemented in
the game of life that you're playing, and you're plan
to lose. So you know what I'm saying. I try
to just try to keep that message in my music,
even when we having fun that were in the club
getting high and drunk, and even like as far as
men like, it's a lot of shit that men need
to just like my opinion is not just about women
(39:25):
and shit like that. It's a lot of bullshit ass
niggas out here. It's a lot of unworthy ass niggas,
a lot of not king, not king built deserving men
out here that need to be taught or need to
be there, or need to be influenced.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And so they start projecting that hurt on everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Else, right right right? You know what I'm saying. And
I try to like as much as I have an
opinion towards women, I have an opinion towards niggas as well,
like y'all about how we should not saying saying, y'all,
how we should be better. You know what I'm saying,
how we could be you know, more useful to our
women and into our community and to the world. You
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know what I'm saying. I believe that's what the pimping is.
That what the is and me is period is like
somebody just having a knowledge and the understanding and the
accountability within themselves to say, I'm willing to do all
these things to make myself better. And because I was
able to go through the process of these things to
make myself better and learn these learn these attributes, learn
these skill set if you are going to be in
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my life. If you're going to be in a relationship
in my life, then you have to follow some of
the beliefs that I have because I have used these
things to be successful. You know what I'm saying. That's
just like a person who owns a company. I bought
the building, I put all the equipment up here, but
I'm going to give you the workload as far as
what to do in this building to sell products and
(40:45):
facilitate this store. But I'm the one that got to
pay twenty thousand a month for this facility. I have
to keep the cargo coming in. I have to do this,
but it doesn't make sense for me to be in
here doing the physical work. So I try to use
that same thought process in life, like, Okay, if Nigga's
gonna be around me, you're gonna be my brother, my partner,
(41:08):
my business. I said, Nigga, you gotta be able to
either teach me some, show me some, or help me
do something. And I need to be able to teach
yourself to show you something to help you do something,
because if you can't use me, then I'm useless. If
I can't use you, then you're useless. Then then who
the fucks wants to be in a circle full of
people with know nothing is being utilized. That's idole's time,
(41:29):
I heard. I thought, that's what the devil's playground is,
idle time.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
That's my grandma say. But with such an elevated way
of learning and thinking like, there are still sometimes though,
where like you put yourself on I won't even say
put yourself but you get into some certain situations like
that the high speed chase. How like is that like
a thing of the not happening anymore?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
How does a person that thinks and knows how valuable
you are end up in a situation like that?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Because not perfect?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
All right, whatever makes you comfortable.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm gonna have fun in the joy life Walker, I'll
give it them. But the point of what I'm trying
to say is I'm still a street nigga. Man. I'm
still again, I said, I only rap on the weekends.
I spend a lot of my time in multiple cities
just being out and about in the communities, in multiple
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different trap houses, chilling with rappers, like up and coming rappers,
people who aspire to be rappers. I'm still like in
a grid of it, you know. I might record. I
don't always record in professional studios and backgrounds. Sometimes I'm
recording in some apartments. You know what I'm saying, just
to get that feeling in their true essence of where
I started it with it, you know what I'm saying,
(42:53):
And just to also be motivational piece for people to see,
like you could tell success, you could be like you
see a cyber truck on the internet and sat walk up,
bringing the cyber truck right to your ghetto and right
to your hood. And me having that that connection and
openness to my background and where I come from, is
(43:15):
still indulging in some of the activities that come from
where I come from. Something that simpler and smoking weed
and sip and drink or put you in a position
to where it's like, oh damn, now I'm getting pulled over.
You know what I'm saying. I might be going through
this and that and I still I know I said,
I said, now I'm getting pulled out. You know what
I'm saying, And you know it just be high b
you know what I'm saying. You know, like you know
(43:37):
I was just in a situation where you first of all,
would you know what I'm saying the way that you
know it was just it is what it is. It is.
I'm I would say this, I would say this without
saying too much. I'd say this is that I grew
up where if a car is telling me or following
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me fast with all the lights off, I'm trying to
do two things, respond or respond, And in that situation
I was. You know, that was my response. And I've
had a history of responding that way, you know what
I'm saying, in certain and certain cause, and I'm just
growing to change that by myself. But at the end
(44:21):
of the day, you know, it is what it is.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's about when you had the broomstick and the dude
was coming at you with the knife.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm just violent. I'm just no like meaning as far
as like when somebody aggresses me, like brings aggression to me.
I'm just that just how I am finishing. I don't
got security and none of that. I don't do Like
you just seen I come up here with five hundred
thousand other chaina on. I ain't got no big tall
person with black te on and in a little pouch
like yeah, I ain't one of them. Type out my
(44:52):
own security. I beat people up. I've been to the penitentiary.
I've been fighting and defending myself my whole like my
daddy six y five, Like I have no physical fear
of confrontation, death for another man, weapons, gun like I
just offrom off from Here's the taste is a place
where guns or cell phones and wallets. A handgun is
(45:14):
a cell phone. Where I'm from. Where I'm from, every
person in this radio station got a handgun in their
bag every day of their life. Every woman is trained
normally regularly to walk around with a handgun. Every single
one of y'all where I'm from, in the radio station
right now while they're at work. You got your gun.
You got your little pink toy Chris gun. She got
her gun. You know what I'm saying. That's how so
(45:37):
uh for that. That guy was just tripping like it was.
He was a he's a homeless guy drug at it.
He was tweaking on everybody, baring everybody, and then he
came to me and my friend with that ship, and
we just ain't going for this, especially me, Like I
enjoy defending myself, like I I don't want to hear
(45:58):
nobody I don't want to fight nobody. But when these
situations occur, whether it's life or death, I just enjoyed
defending myself because that is who I'm inspired by. Goku,
I'm inspired by vegeta, I'm inspired by why you. I'm
inspired by niggas, people that whoop ass. So when I'm
put in a situation where I gotta whoop ass, I'm
gonna whoop ass. You gonna You're gonna have to whoop me?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Well, when do you give up the screen life styles?
Because you you got a lot to offer.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I mean, my personal opinion, I feel that life has
just I don't think it's ever gonna prohibit the blessing
for me to just completely walk away from the streets
because what I was born into, and by me being
born into this lifestyle, into this way of thinking, and
(46:47):
to these relationships with people, I owe certain lords to
certain relationships, certain accountability of going back to the community
in which I was raised, then in the people that
shared my struggles and be a vessel of cleansing and
(47:09):
healing and teaching and prosperity to them. I have to
go back and be with them. I have to go
in those communities and be a part of the activities
and the struggles and the conversations that's going on and
from where I come from to make a difference. Yeah,
(47:30):
just in general period. Can't you how you do have
to be involved with a criminal aspect. That don't mean
I have to be doing crime. I don't have to
be doing crime, but I have to be able to
If you want to tell somebody to stop sitting and crack,
you have to be able to walk in the crack
house where he's setting dope at and then offer him
another job, another opportunity, another way that we can both
(47:50):
sit at this table. We're going to compare this business opportunity,
this business strategy compared to the scale and the dope,
and I'm going to show you how this is going
to be bore, beneficial and life changing for you than this.
I cannot convince him to do that if I'm not
willing to go into his habitat and his surroundings to
convince him. I pulled up to the trenches in this
car that you want the videos that you in here
selling up to watching and the way that they live
(48:11):
in and these videos, I'm living like that right here
in your face, and I'm telling you that there are
ways for you to use your same hustle, your same strategy,
and infuse that with a different way of creating money.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, but you got to tell them jump in the calls,
go to a restaurant because I can't sit in the
track out the police come in here. They're not gonna says,
walkers in here, opportunity.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
That's just a certain that's just a scenario that makes sense.
But I still got to meet you at ground zero.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
We'll tell people put the guns down. But it's like
people are literally that you got it's me or you sometimes.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Exactly, it comes it comes to these places where we're
getting shot at all day to understand why we have
these guns now exactly, that's just like that's just like
me with the box and shit. Okay, like you want
want fuckers to stop shooting guns and all that, But
then you also have to show them that you're willing
to do what I don't what I want. I'm willing
to do what I'm asking you to do. I'm willing
(49:07):
to make the change, or I've already made the change,
or I'm willing to take the risk, and I'm suggesting
for you to take and I'm trying to make it
look cool, look look respectable, look fun, look honorable, to
where you can stay. Have a two black men, the
two brown men, two men of color of any ethnicity
of color, can have a physical few, have a fight,
(49:28):
have a disagreement, and we both go home to our
families and our children.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Being able to go back to ground zero. I think
is just like, though you're you've elevated, you know you're
still humble. And then I kind of wanted to pivot
back to you talking about the rules, and somewhere in
this conversation you're also talking about pouring into your community,
Like where did you get all of all of your
your coding, like your ethics, Because.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I really come from a lot of nothing. And when
I say that, I mean like I grew up in
a or motherless home, not a fatherless home.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
And but you your mom was a strip your words,
a scripple.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
My mom was a whole. My mom was a prostitute.
My mom was a dancer. Mama was exact a dancer.
My mom was also a gangster. My mom was also
a hustler, you know what I'm saying. So my father
was was aspiring athlete, aspiring football player aspiring wrestler. He
never made it like you know what I'm saying to
the top, or like my dad is not like no
(50:30):
household name wrestler that you know. His name my dad
names is our rage Walker's not any of these other
guys that you know. People look at his spectacles of
millionaires and even though it's wrestlers, them niggas really broke
to honestly. But yeah, I grew up where cocaine, crack, heroin,
(50:52):
the aroma of it being cooked and prepared to be
used as like air freshen in the living room to
me type shit for a large period of time. Then
there's a period of time after that where my mother
just wasn't present in my life at all for twelve
thirteen years. And I'm just growing up as with a
single father trying to chase his dream, raise me, raise
(51:17):
another woman's family that he married, and also pay child
support on me while I'm in his living room. You
see how your face, you see how you see that,
you see your face that I know exactly. It's crazy
as fucking it, don't It barely makes sense to do it.
But that's the world we live in. Because of a
woman asks for child support and got the documentation needed
(51:37):
necess say she's going to get that payment whether you
raising the child or not, because the government sees what
they see it and it's a long process to undo
this process and make them see and realize whatever. But
I say that to say with the struggles and the
harshess that I grew up, but not just on my parents,
because that's just parenting, just the surroundings around me. The
first time I seen people get shot and shoot each
(51:59):
other and like that, I'm seven six. Then I grew
up in a mixture of two very very wild places.
My mom from Chicago, my dad from Houston, Texas. So like, yeah,
like I just seen it. I've experienced my uncle of pim.
My uncle's is dope fiends, my grandny is alcohol my
(52:20):
grandmother in Houston, and my dad is one hundred percent.
During my mama, my grandmother's from the cyber Honduras, I
watched my grandmama died from alcohol poison it from just
being an over alcoholic and my grandma died like four
days before my sixth birthday type shit. So like and
she was teaching me Spanish, like it was just so
much shit that I saw struggle young. It matured me
(52:42):
like my childhood was down there, ripped from me from
just all the experiences that I've been through, So it
forced me to mature early. That's another reason why I'm
so childish and I laughed so much and I have
so much fun as an adult and on the internet,
is because like growing up to me, I never liked
watching movies like uh Minister Society and The Nino Brown
(53:03):
and Boys in the Hood and all that ship because
I'm really living at like, how can I find enjoyment
and entertainment from black struggling and black poverty and making
humorous moments of it when I'm I really got the
the Ezekiel and my doorstep getting drunk. I'm really living
around debos and Craigs and like and like this ship,
(53:28):
my mama is wanted, my mama is a Felicia? How
is that funny? How How is this like? How is
this escape of my mind? How is this u a
visual pleasing moment to my young mentality? When this is
my everyday reality. That's not no fucking entertainment that's systematically
progragramming me to continuously be what I already am living
(53:51):
or to think that that's fun.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
You're breaking the cycle now.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I am because because why because I want to be Goku.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Did you want to.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
Say this conversation is definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
But I'm the Internet, I'm the dumb dripping Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Again, man, we gotta we got another interview. But we
definitely enjoyed the conversation. But soft Father two is out now,
and whatever you else got going on, Man, when you're
in New York, pull up on us.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, man, soft Father two right now. It's a business.
Shout out to my record, but shou out to my friends.
Shout out to the Breakfast Club for having me here.
You know, it's been a long time coming. Man. I
appreciate you having me here. I appreciate me to you,
young beautiful lady. Tonight to follow you. So just put
your hands together and pray to the Saugus to say,
I need some flight, I need some saving, I need
(54:42):
the sauce. It's gonna find you and I gotta I
gotta part. She asked me about my podcast. I got
a podcast coming to man, Sauce Me Up podcast. Follow
us on YouTube, man, Sast me Up podcast. It's coming soon. Man.
Hopefully I get some of y'all to be a guest
one day.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
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