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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning, everybody. It's e j Envy, Jess, Hilarrys, Charlomagne, the Gud.
We are the breakfast club. Now Jess is out, so
Laura LaRosa is holding it down to Charlamagne is actually
catching a flight. We asked some special guests on the
phone lines this morning. We have Isaac Hayes the Third
and his attorney, James Walker Junior.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, well let's jump right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And recently I seen Trump was using your father's song
and you sat down a ceasing desist to make sure
that song.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Was being stopped. Allegedly he didn't stop, So now you're
suing his ass.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You know, we sent a ceasing desist years ago, and
then we asked for demand for payment for the multiple
uses over one hundred and thirty uses, and they didn't
respond to our deadline. So we had to file a
lawsuit in a federal court. And you know, we were
waiting to get some some information back. But I'll let
James share exactly what new information we have that is
actually breaking.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, we found out a day or so ago that
we have been approved by the court and our requests
for a emergency hearing with Team Trump on September third.
So your viewers, your listeners, and all of America who's
been supporting this great brother here who By the way,
this is probably the first time in a long time
(01:19):
outside of the Estate of Marvin Gay, where we've had
a black man stand up for his publishing, his songwriting
and go all out to get what's doue and what's
proper and what's respect. So we got great news that
the judge is granted an emergency hearing on September third
with Donald Trump and company.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
For all of the people, because some people will say, like, oh,
it's just the song. Can you explain, like, when a
judge approves in an emergency hearing, that's a big thing because
that means that there's a lot of evidence that sure
that something is going on. Can you explain for the people,
like why this is such a huge breaking news moment
for you guys, and what it takes to get an
emergency hearing approved.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I can give you three million reasons why Isaac Hay's
license is his father's music in the estate of Isaac
Hayes's music and intellectual property every day, all year round.
Sometimes those licenses can be six figure checks. Under copyright law,
you get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per copyright infringement.
Your viewers can look up Title seventeen. They'll see it
(02:17):
right in the statute. So Donald Trump has used this
music in the Republican National Committee and so many others
that kind of are in his constituency. They've used this
music probably one hundred and thirty four times, and we
have yet to see a blanket license, a sign license,
a copy of a check. We've reached out to BMI,
(02:37):
We've reached out to universo we're urging them to turn over,
you know, whatever, documents to prove it, because if you
can't prove it, it's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
per use, and we have over one hundred uses, so
you're talking about, you know, several million when we get
in a courtroom. The other side of this is it's
urgent and then its emergency because when you look at
(02:58):
the family and the legacy of Isaac Hayes Junior, his dad,
and even his family throughout, Donald Trump doesn't represent the
character and the morals and the values that this family represents.
So every time you use this music, and I like
Isaac to elaborate on this, it's got to have impact
on the family and how they feel.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, you know, I've said several times that I'm a
brother the Seven Sisters. My father had seven daughters. He
would not want his music being used by a man
with Donald Trump's character, the way that he talks about women.
He's been found liable of sexual abuse, he calls women dogs,
especially black women. There's no way my father wants to
(03:40):
be associated with a person of Donald Trump's character. And
on top of that, you know, my father lost to
rights to his music a year before I was born,
and it took us fifty six years to start to
get them back.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And we do.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
We have people infringing on our copyright immediately. And a
lot of the states are not in this position because
they sell their publicising, they sell their estate to a
bigger entity, and are not in control to be able
to make these kinds of decisions and fight. And I
understand that the corporations that they sell them to are
publicly traded companies. They don't want to be in the
middle of this. They don't want to be in some
sort of political squabble. They want to remain neutral. So
(04:14):
we are in the unique position that I don't have
to buy by those rules, especially when it comes to
defending my father's legacy, his copyright, his music against someone
like Donald Trump that's just been blatantly using his music
without our permission.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now on the sheet it says the song was co
written by your dad and Dave Porter. So is Dave
Porter in the lawsuit as well.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Davis not in a lawsuit. Dave was the co writer
of hold On, I'm coming Him. My dad wrote, you know,
several hit records. Dave was aware of everything that's going on.
He actually has sold his catalog to Universal Music, so
he kind of did when I said people do so.
Universal has his part of his catalog and they represent that.
But again, us being in a unique position that I
decided not to sell my father's catalog, we are the
(04:55):
decision makers. And you know that song is one of
the gems of my father's catalog. It gets licensed dozens
and dozens of times a year. I know we got
two more licenses in in the last you know week,
that over probably about five hundred thousand dollars just to
license these songs for commercials that are coming up, and
so you know, we don't hold on them coming doesn't
(05:16):
need Donald Trump's help to make revenue, and so it's
just a matter of IP and anybody that has their
you know, copyright and publishing. She to understand how important
this is. And this is a lesson to songwriters, producers,
other other artists out here that really, you know, understand
that their music has value and they have rights as well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's unfortunate that some of them don't. I know. Celine
Dion's story was a huge story.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
But as much as she wants Donald Trump to not
use my heart will go on, she has no say
so because she's not the writer of the record. So
if you didn't write the song, you know, you don't
own the publishing. So again, those are those are really
good headlines, But she has no power to say that
Donald Trump can't use her song, and we do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And that's the point that I'm making. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Did he try to clear it, did he try to
license it, or he just said effort, I'm just gonna
take it and use it.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We haven't seen any proof. We've been told by some
of the music societies that they believe he had a
blanket license at some point, but as of today, there's
no license that we know of. And we begged his team,
or I've said, emailed this team repeatedly to turn over
a blanket license. If not, we'll see you in court
after this handful on September third, because we believe once
(06:21):
the court sees all the evidence, the exhibits and documents,
is going to be very clear that this is copyright infrigement.
One on one, trump O'donald Jones. You can't use somebody's
music illegally. This man sitting next to me in his
father's estate. They have the exclusive right to publicly perform, display,
derivative works, the whole nine under the Copyright Act. You
(06:43):
haven't followed that act, you haven't followed those rules, then
we bring you in the court and let a judge decide.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Now, September third is a great day because I saw
for my birthday button.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I was gonna say, yeah, virgos Now I was going
to ask, so what does Isaac Hayes, what do you
want September third? What do you want to happen after
all of this? Besides financial do you want an apology.
Do you want them to take it down? Do you
want them never to use it again? Or so what
do you want out of this?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
All that is listed actually in the laws of you know,
removal because this song has been put on multiple accounts,
different mediums, YouTube, true, social rumble, you know, his social
media accounts, all these other accounts that we didn't want,
you know, want him involved in it. So number one,
we want it taken down. We wanted to stop using
it forever. We want payment for the illegal uses because again,
(07:31):
you ask for permission for stuff like this, but if
you're not asking for permission, and again we see that
he's done this multiple times, it's just the time that
this is where you take the step and say it's
gone a step further because you know, once these artists
get political use licenses, right, and we said we've been
looking for one. Okay, we know that Donald Trump doesn't
have a political use license, and he's used this song
(07:52):
multiple times, so you have to pay, and you know
it was here. Here's another thing. Do you think if
someone was using something illegal from Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Would And on that note, let me say this, isn't
it ironic this morning that Donald Trump claims he's a billionaire.
He benefited off his father's estate. His father lent him
millions of dollars and left him a thirty million dollar.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Company so he could get going.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
So the very man who benefited from his father's estate
wants to disrespect this man and his family from benefiting
from their father's a state. The very man who licenses
his father's name all over the world the Trump name,
doesn't want to pay a license to use the Isaac
Hayes name and song in music and copyrights. I just
find that so ironic that he doesn't see or his
(08:40):
team doesn't see how wrong that is, and how it's
the very same mechanism that they've used to create millions
and millions and billions of dollars. And lastly, it's not
just Donald Trump, it's the Republican National Committee, it's National
Rightfle Association. We've named about six defendants and all of
them will have to be in court come September third.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I love that well.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We wish you guys the best of luck, and I
hope you get what you're supposed to get for it,
because you're absolutely right. If somebody puts Trump's name on anything,
He's coming with a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
If you put it on a T shirt right now,
he'll sue you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If it was in the back of your room, if
it was on your building, your car, he'd be coming
for it for his money. So it's only right that
y'all should come for y'alls.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
If we urge other writers. If he's using your music,
reach out to Isaac. Learn how to do this, get
it done. Go out there and protect your music because
it helps us all if you protect your music.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, Well, we appreciate you guys for checking in.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Isaac Haye's the third James Walker Junior, thank you so
much and good luck and call us back on September third,
September fourth, let us know how it went down.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, not September third. I'm gonna be it's my birthday.
Thank you, brother. I'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club
Morning, everybody. It's e j Envy, Jess, Hilarrys, Charlomagne, the Gud.
We are the breakfast club. Now Jess is out, so
Laura LaRosa is holding it down to Charlamagne is actually
catching a flight. We asked some special guests on the
phone lines this morning. We have Isaac Hayes the Third
and his attorney, James Walker Junior.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, well let's jump right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And recently I seen Trump was using your father's song
and you sat down a ceasing desist to make sure
that song.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Was being stopped. Allegedly he didn't stop, So now you're
suing his ass.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You know, we sent a ceasing desist years ago, and
then we asked for demand for payment for the multiple
uses over one hundred and thirty uses, and they didn't
respond to our deadline. So we had to file a
lawsuit in a federal court. And you know, we were
waiting to get some some information back. But I'll let
James share exactly what new information we have that is
actually breaking.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, we found out a day or so ago that
we have been approved by the court and our requests
for a emergency hearing with Team Trump on September third.
So your viewers, your listeners, and all of America who's
been supporting this great brother here who By the way,
this is probably the first time in a long time
(01:19):
outside of the Estate of Marvin Gay, where we've had
a black man stand up for his publishing, his songwriting
and go all out to get what's doue and what's
proper and what's respect. So we got great news that
the judge is granted an emergency hearing on September third
with Donald Trump and company.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
For all of the people, because some people will say, like, oh,
it's just the song. Can you explain, like, when a
judge approves in an emergency hearing, that's a big thing because
that means that there's a lot of evidence that sure
that something is going on. Can you explain for the people,
like why this is such a huge breaking news moment
for you guys, and what it takes to get an
emergency hearing approved.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I can give you three million reasons why Isaac Hay's
license is his father's music in the estate of Isaac
Hayes's music and intellectual property every day, all year round.
Sometimes those licenses can be six figure checks. Under copyright law,
you get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per copyright infringement.
Your viewers can look up Title seventeen. They'll see it
(02:17):
right in the statute. So Donald Trump has used this
music in the Republican National Committee and so many others
that kind of are in his constituency. They've used this
music probably one hundred and thirty four times, and we
have yet to see a blanket license, a sign license,
a copy of a check. We've reached out to BMI,
(02:37):
We've reached out to universo we're urging them to turn over,
you know, whatever, documents to prove it, because if you
can't prove it, it's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
per use, and we have over one hundred uses, so
you're talking about, you know, several million when we get
in a courtroom. The other side of this is it's
urgent and then its emergency because when you look at
(02:58):
the family and the legacy of Isaac Hayes Junior, his dad,
and even his family throughout, Donald Trump doesn't represent the
character and the morals and the values that this family represents.
So every time you use this music, and I like
Isaac to elaborate on this, it's got to have impact
on the family and how they feel.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, you know, I've said several times that I'm a
brother the Seven Sisters. My father had seven daughters. He
would not want his music being used by a man
with Donald Trump's character, the way that he talks about women.
He's been found liable of sexual abuse, he calls women dogs,
especially black women. There's no way my father wants to
(03:40):
be associated with a person of Donald Trump's character. And
on top of that, you know, my father lost to
rights to his music a year before I was born,
and it took us fifty six years to start to
get them back.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And we do.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
We have people infringing on our copyright immediately. And a
lot of the states are not in this position because
they sell their publicising, they sell their estate to a
bigger entity, and are not in control to be able
to make these kinds of decisions and fight. And I
understand that the corporations that they sell them to are
publicly traded companies. They don't want to be in the
middle of this. They don't want to be in some
sort of political squabble. They want to remain neutral. So
(04:14):
we are in the unique position that I don't have
to buy by those rules, especially when it comes to
defending my father's legacy, his copyright, his music against someone
like Donald Trump that's just been blatantly using his music
without our permission.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now on the sheet it says the song was co
written by your dad and Dave Porter. So is Dave
Porter in the lawsuit as well.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Davis not in a lawsuit. Dave was the co writer
of hold On, I'm coming Him. My dad wrote, you know,
several hit records. Dave was aware of everything that's going on.
He actually has sold his catalog to Universal Music, so
he kind of did when I said people do so.
Universal has his part of his catalog and they represent that.
But again, us being in a unique position that I
decided not to sell my father's catalog, we are the
(04:55):
decision makers. And you know that song is one of
the gems of my father's catalog. It gets licensed dozens
and dozens of times a year. I know we got
two more licenses in in the last you know week,
that over probably about five hundred thousand dollars just to
license these songs for commercials that are coming up, and
so you know, we don't hold on them coming doesn't
(05:16):
need Donald Trump's help to make revenue, and so it's
just a matter of IP and anybody that has their
you know, copyright and publishing. She to understand how important
this is. And this is a lesson to songwriters, producers,
other other artists out here that really, you know, understand
that their music has value and they have rights as well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's unfortunate that some of them don't. I know. Celine
Dion's story was a huge story.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
But as much as she wants Donald Trump to not
use my heart will go on, she has no say
so because she's not the writer of the record. So
if you didn't write the song, you know, you don't
own the publishing. So again, those are those are really
good headlines, But she has no power to say that
Donald Trump can't use her song, and we do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And that's the point that I'm making. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Did he try to clear it, did he try to
license it, or he just said effort, I'm just gonna
take it and use it.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We haven't seen any proof. We've been told by some
of the music societies that they believe he had a
blanket license at some point, but as of today, there's
no license that we know of. And we begged his team,
or I've said, emailed this team repeatedly to turn over
a blanket license. If not, we'll see you in court
after this handful on September third, because we believe once
(06:21):
the court sees all the evidence, the exhibits and documents,
is going to be very clear that this is copyright infrigement.
One on one, trump O'donald Jones. You can't use somebody's
music illegally. This man sitting next to me in his
father's estate. They have the exclusive right to publicly perform, display,
derivative works, the whole nine under the Copyright Act. You
(06:43):
haven't followed that act, you haven't followed those rules, then
we bring you in the court and let a judge decide.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Now, September third is a great day because I saw
for my birthday button.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I was gonna say, yeah, virgos Now I was going
to ask, so what does Isaac Hayes, what do you
want September third? What do you want to happen after
all of this? Besides financial do you want an apology.
Do you want them to take it down? Do you
want them never to use it again? Or so what
do you want out of this?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
All that is listed actually in the laws of you know,
removal because this song has been put on multiple accounts,
different mediums, YouTube, true, social rumble, you know, his social
media accounts, all these other accounts that we didn't want,
you know, want him involved in it. So number one,
we want it taken down. We wanted to stop using
it forever. We want payment for the illegal uses because again,
(07:31):
you ask for permission for stuff like this, but if
you're not asking for permission, and again we see that
he's done this multiple times, it's just the time that
this is where you take the step and say it's
gone a step further because you know, once these artists
get political use licenses, right, and we said we've been
looking for one. Okay, we know that Donald Trump doesn't
have a political use license, and he's used this song
(07:52):
multiple times, so you have to pay, and you know
it was here. Here's another thing. Do you think if
someone was using something illegal from Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Would And on that note, let me say this, isn't
it ironic this morning that Donald Trump claims he's a billionaire.
He benefited off his father's estate. His father lent him
millions of dollars and left him a thirty million dollar.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Company so he could get going.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
So the very man who benefited from his father's estate
wants to disrespect this man and his family from benefiting
from their father's a state. The very man who licenses
his father's name all over the world the Trump name,
doesn't want to pay a license to use the Isaac
Hayes name and song in music and copyrights. I just
find that so ironic that he doesn't see or his
(08:40):
team doesn't see how wrong that is, and how it's
the very same mechanism that they've used to create millions
and millions and billions of dollars. And lastly, it's not
just Donald Trump, it's the Republican National Committee, it's National
Rightfle Association. We've named about six defendants and all of
them will have to be in court come September third.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I love that well.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We wish you guys the best of luck, and I
hope you get what you're supposed to get for it,
because you're absolutely right. If somebody puts Trump's name on anything,
He's coming with a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
If you put it on a T shirt right now,
he'll sue you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If it was in the back of your room, if
it was on your building, your car, he'd be coming
for it for his money. So it's only right that
y'all should come for y'alls.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
If we urge other writers. If he's using your music,
reach out to Isaac. Learn how to do this, get
it done. Go out there and protect your music because
it helps us all if you protect your music.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, Well, we appreciate you guys for checking in.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Isaac Haye's the third James Walker Junior, thank you so
much and good luck and call us back on September third,
September fourth, let us know how it went down.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, not September third. I'm gonna be it's my birthday.
Thank you, brother. I'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
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