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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club. Yup, mister w Ald, most dangerous morning show,
The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne and God, DJ Envy and Jessa out.
But Laura Leroe says here and we got the legendary,
the iconic Bill Bellamy is in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I love the Breakfast Club. We hell no, you are
aging amazingly.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you man. You know I'm only seventy three and
ain't nothing but coconut water, Lauren. You know, you get
coconut water, get cup of strawberry blueberries, a little bit
of shape. Buddy, you look like that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But you playing or you just turned sixty a couple
of weeks ago. That is an amazing sixty, my brother.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But I don't know what sixty is supposed to look
like because I'm comparing it to what we grew up on.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
No no, no, no, no, we didn'tnew. We didn't know. We
didn knew because you know, back in the day, if
you told somebody who was sixty years old, they'd be like, man,
I just got me some pancakes from our hot.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know, for free. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Now you know, we move and groover, we work out.
You taking care of yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We know what we eating, that's right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You watch it diet and you know, if you has
to have good health, you look good.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you take advantage of that kind of stuff though,
like the free pancakes from my hop and all of the.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Man I haven't really leaned into the scene city thing,
but I really think I need to get like some
of them little benefits and stuff. Yeah, I don't have one.
You think I should pull up.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I feel like that's the right of past.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Right, But I just don't want to be unk everywhere.
Like you know what I'm saying, I'm getting unk now,
I'm getting o G. O G is kind of like
on the basketball court, be making me feel like I
can't play no more.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You want the ball, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Like, yeah, might not helping you up off the ground,
calling you.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But it's it's a tricky thing. O G is cool
unk just in certain cases. And I'll be honest with you.
I was in a club where was I recently and
I felt.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Like, you need to go home?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know this music because because some of
the music I just don't know. I feel like I
just missed it, like uh, like I love glow Rilla,
but she got this joint that's so. But all the
girls know the words and I ain't know nothing. That's
when I feel like I gotta go home.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What is it? How does it go? Tell me? She
got so much? Since?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, it was?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Is it sexy? Rad too?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay independent?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yes, every girl in there from twenty five to thirty
five was going crazy and I met the bar like, man,
I gotta go home.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Man, y'all ain't playing by nature. Y'all, y'all don't know track.
But that's funny when you say, because like when you
get to a certain age, when you think about everybody
who didn't make it from our culture, correct, does that
make you appreciate it more? Yo? Man?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Honestly yes, yes, yes, a very very good thing you said,
because you know what, to have a long career is
a blessing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And then we lost so many people that came up
with us. Charlemagne, you've been my boy forever, like we
came up like at around the same time, like we
went to the same school kind.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
We've seen you know, from the Little Kim days to
you know, let's say boys the Men that ninety early nineties.
I remember when Buster Rheims and first got on with
leaders of the New School. I remember like the Deaf
Jam offices, like the Source magazine, like all that energy
of the nineties. I remember when Q Tip went solo.
(03:22):
You know what I'm saying, L like ladies man rap,
like like there's so many moments of hip hop that
we experienced, and to think now, I'm like, man, that's
such a great time for us to be able to
experience it. I mean, I remember interviewing Michael Jackson, Like
how many people did it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just think about that, how many.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
People interviewed like they not even Like if you would
have told me twenty years ago Michael Jackson would not
be alive, Like that doesn't make sense. Like I always
thought like them dudes would live forever, Like Prince like
he was so damn cool, Michael was so damn cool,
Whitney Jersey girl, Like I have all these wonderful memories
of these people left eye, you know, damn Like we
(04:03):
did all this stuff with MTV when people were just
coming up, people getting on, people getting accepted, they starting
to go platinum.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So you young, you don't even know it was young.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I got to make sure.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I make sure.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But like like I remember when Usher went diamond. I
remember when the Fuji's went diamond like diamond was like
way out did like you told somebody you went diamond?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And that was real albums I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think it's just different for y'all because people had
to go and get the you know what I mean.
Like right now we're streaming, so it's like, okay, cool,
that's people listening. Different when all these people were going
to the store.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Nobody is going to the record store like me and
Charla Man Me and Charlamagne Knew. Remember tow Records here
in New York. We remember when it was the album released.
People was lined up to get your album. Remember I
remember taking the plaf Remember when you remember when you
couldn't get.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The plastic You needed a razor.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You had to take a key and get the damn
album out and then you read then you did you
ever get a thank you?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Did you ever? Like I wasn't around. I'm forty six,
so I started getting thank you later on, Like but
that was like early two thousands.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like when you would get the album and you'd be like, YO,
want to shout out made for your support on my
album or whatever, and then I would read all the
producers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Those days are open. You don't even get artwork.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
What thank you for? You get artwork?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, you don't get You don't get Are you just
getting Christmas song?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it's like a special thing if they released like
artwork and images, and normally it's like merch and like
something swaggy.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So you got to buy a T shirt to get artwork?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Now yeah, less people do know what you're talking about
t shirts.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You talk about the album.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know what he's talking about. But I'm not that old.
I mean that young, Like I had the definite writings
on the Walls two side album I had Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Did you ever go to a drive in theater?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I did, But it was like a cool vintage experience
that like we blogged like it was not.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Have Michael Jackson thriller? Why would you tell that long?
I saw it was you on.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Nineteen ninety one? My mom added, I remember going and
buying that album, and like you had, they opened up
like this, like and they had all the writings on
Oh see that, go.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Ahead, girl, you're writing a Patton.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh my gosh, you're young old now you hear about
a lot of this in the top building. But just
talk to the people. What was then interviewing Michael? Like
somebody literally asked me that this weekend you haven't you
have an interviewed Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm like, nah, Michael. Interview of Michael Jackson was like
talking to uh, you know, a prince, a king of
some sort of some royalty. Because the way he moved,
you know what I'm saying, Like he was to me
the epitome of being a rock star, superstar. He had
Like if he was in here right now, it'd be
thirty people here, thirty people that you don't know what
(06:45):
they do, but they look like they killed people. Three
four publicists, you got the record label people, you got
his personal people, and and then everything it's just like,
oh my god, like you don't want to make a mistake,
and he comes in every thing set up the lighting.
You just like like I'd be sitting there like this,
(07:06):
well we're gonna do this, and is people will be like, no,
Michael's gonna do three five and nine. Thank you, that's
how they used to be. I'm like, he had his
own lighting person, Like you ever heard of a person
having a cinematographer for a interview.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Ryan Carey came in the studio and had them had
her team sent up lights and I was like, Pearl,
and I said, Mariah, they only gonna be able to
see you. And she was like, that's the point, that's
the whole darling.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yo, how did the lighting people get there before Michael
got there two hours?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That same thing that he said is true because I
interviewed Mariah Carey in Hawaii and Jermaine was there too,
and I was like, jd where's Mariah. He was like, yo, man,
Mariah be down. About three hours. We waited her man
to get hit DP. I didn't know what that was
at the time, so I was like, say, that's Daniel Pearl,
he'll be here. He like all of Mariah's stuff, Right,
(07:58):
this dude comes. He got like ten people they like
they doing the little thing. Turned that down to thirty percent,
put that up to ten five. It looks like Heaven, Heaven, heaven, everybody,
Heaven bring Maray out because the lighting was heaven, Swear
to God. I was sitting out there black. I got
so black. I was sitting out there with just like, man,
(08:20):
she'll be here in another hour. They didn't even give
me no water. This back in the day MTV stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What happened to that era?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like, can you even build a superstar like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I guess on TikTok. I learned a lot of
great artists on TikTok. I've just just come up with
my feed because you know, when I came up back
in the day, we knew who was dropping. We knew
that the new Beyonce album was dropping. We knew Jay
was dropping something. We knew that, you know, Redman and
Meth was doing something. Now I'll get a TikTok video
(08:53):
that's a challenge or something. I click on that and
then I find an artist and I'm like yo, and
I lock it in. That's how I've been doing it lately.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But can those people become those superstar global icons we're
talking about, Cause I feel like there's a level, Because
I feel like there's a level of what's the world,
There's a level of curation that's not happening anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, you know what we missed a few steps. You
know what I'm saying, Like, I'll give you a perfect example,
Leon Thomas, Love Love Love leon Thomas. Right, I got
windowed Leon Thomas by mistake. Mutt was on Instagram and
it was doing somebody was doing a was singing his song,
(09:32):
trying to do like a version of it. I said, Damn,
this shit's kind of dope. I go click on that.
Then I clicked to him and I'm like, oh, then
there's a Chris Brown remix.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I had to click to that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now I down like with all that on Spotify, That's
how I'm finding artists. It's like, what the fuck? You
know what I'm saying. It's like, damn, they don't promote
the artists like they used to. Coco Jones right now
on Fire.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Label won't even send her music to the ratio.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You said that. I was like, what why would they
do that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I have to it does and Andre Martinez.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's like, what are you doing? It's like nobody gets
the press kid sent out no more where they really
show you what the what the project is, how they
gonna promote it, and what the how much money they
putting behind the artists, like Cocle Jones is Fire like
she's in a pocket right now to me, and you
know I love her music. I like, give me on
h Do everybody know I do? I think he's dope
(10:26):
as hell. I'm trying to think of somebody else that
I just was like, Oh, snap, snow Allegra, Oh god Lee,
what snow is? Bananas? Is there like a big big
I had Danny Lee on my on my podcast, she's
dope too. Then all of a sudden, I don't even
hear nothing. It's like, Yo, she was rolling rolling Maida?
(10:48):
Is it Mada or Maa? Mighta Meda? Meida? Am I
saying it the right wing Medada? She's a new artist.
She was on my podcast super Dope. I give you
one more guy, Tone Stiff. You know him? See you
know Tone and you young, you better google.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
In your mind.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's a real artist. But more importantly, you know what
I'm saying, Like, as much as I love music, I'm
trying to incorporate that vibe to my to my my
new tour, Top Build because it's like I feel like
it's going to bring people away, bring people together in
a way that they're going to be very very nostalgic.
Because I feel like, you know, what we're talking about
(11:35):
is it exists in people. They just don't have anybody
to bring it together. And that's what I want to be.
I want to be like that. That be gonna like
to bring music, comedy in a moment of hip hop
that is just incredible to the people. That's what I
really wanted it to feel like. When you leave, you're like, damn, man,
I got way more than I thought, you know what
I mean. And I feel like that's really possible. Now
(11:55):
we've got social media, you can shot shot our clips
to people. They could see a little bit of your show,
see what's going on. Like, Yo, I'm going to see
that stuff. Whenever I play anything with Mary, Mary, Mary
just she just does it for the ladies, everybody Mary
something else.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The other day I seen it with them boots on
her look like her ankles with her.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're seeing her own thing. She's looking like she looks
like she'd be tired. Yeah, Mar Mary.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I came up with, Man, I love me some Mary.
Boom boom boom boom, Yo. I just love this part
right here.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She got the little bump to it, just like that
one hit.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Hurt shout out. Now you married. Now you haven't done
a special since twenty twenty two, right, so it's top
billing working towards that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, Okay, So I think right now I have an
hour of comedy that is crazy funny, Like I think
nobody's talking about what I'm talking about right now. It's
very relevant. I mean, it's so much stuff going on
right now, from Diddy to Shannon Shop to sho Door,
(13:11):
Like there's so many elements in the culture that everybody's
thinking about, like, oh my god, and I want to
capture this moment because it's right now. So I'm really
trying to tape soon so that everything that I'm talking
about will be indicative of this moment in the culture.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I was gonna say, how are you, because I know
you got the podcast, but like you obviously you're so
aware of everything because of your background and like interviews
and stuff. How do you bring the podcast to the stage,
Like are you shooting the podcast?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I usually shoot the podcast in the studio. I'm going
to try to do the podcast live too, because I
think it would be kind of nice to be able
to have the energy of the people there too, and
then they could you know, ask people questions doing my interviews,
and then we could have like some interaction and shoot
it that way. I think that could brings some different
(14:01):
energy in season two.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I just think it's interesting because there's a lot of
people who try to intertwine all of that, but like
they're not really as up to date in like current
as you are. Like you just write it off. I'm
just sitting here listening. You just rattle off so much,
and I'm like, oh, he's on the headlines. Oh yeah,
your background, you know what you you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, you have to be a student of the game
as well. Like for me, I have to read all
the time. So like at night when the house is quiet,
I'm reading every publication, I'm listening to music. I have
to stay in the culture because it's like there's stuff.
It's a language. The culture is a language, right, and
so if you get outside the language and then you
(14:37):
try to come back, you're gonna sound dated. You're gonna
sound like, oh, they don't even talk like that no more,
or whatever, you know what I mean. So for me,
it's very important for me to stay very very relevant
and conscious of what's popping, you know. I watch you,
I watch you now, I watch Jazz, I watched the
New Comedians, I watch you know, the news and seeing like,
oh shoot, I watched the headlines that's popping off on
(14:58):
social media, like, oh, everybody's talking about this. What's what's
the deal? You know what I'm saying, Get in the
trenches with it. Oh wow, this is a good angle.
So what I do with comedy is I'll take like
something that's that's a real subject matter and flip it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And now you you laughing, but you're like, oh my god,
that's crazy. What made him say that? Because you got
to know it?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So how do you flip something like the Shannon Sharp situation?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We just well, first of all, Shannon Sharp did not
see how to be a player at all. Okay, so
let's just just let's get that out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He must have missed the vhs and the DVD release
you got yo.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He fifty six years old. He should have seen it coming.
It was right on, what's that sound? Your ass is coming?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's coming?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's the man? Skip should have known not skip sharing,
and Sharp should have known when when that first tape
leak that we gotta slow down.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's a little bit. It's a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, baby, with that talk to it. Yeah, I ain't
need know I was live. They tell me, baby, at
least now now if you are going live and you
don't know what you two, if you.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Don't even know of and you gotta click click to
do it. So he wanted to be live. They don't, baby, Joe,
Daddy what it did him? Daddy what it did?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Right? He full throttle got caught on that one. Everything
should have been shut down, went to some type of class.
You can't talk nasty no more. You can't talk nasty, shennon,
calm down, Get you a nice, nice, solid woman on
to the corner that and just lay load for a
minute to listen. What is it not even eight nine
(16:40):
months later?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That had been that long?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It is he backing them streets? Damn, you mess up
the bag. I'm telling you right now. White girls can't
even say nothing to me. I was at the dog
part of his wife said, oh nice, sorry, I took
my dog and ran I wouldn't even trying to im.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm like, Jonathan, what about the age difference? Because when
he met us, she was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Thank god, thank god, she was nineteen. It's too far. See,
I got a young daughter, so I can't even process
my daughter's twenty one. So I'm thinking. I'm thinking, like
my daughter, I'm me and Shannon in the alley wake scraping.
I can't wear that. But you know what I'm saying,
these cats, I don't know, athletes are different. I just
(17:31):
be honest. I think it's a it's a difference with
these type of guys, Like they get they get attracted
to certain things that are different, like like, why do
like most football players like strip clubs. I don't know.
They just like that. I mean when I did any
given study, that's what we was in strip club. Come on, dog,
let go see the girl. Man, brial talk may blow
off some things. Drink a little bit, get back to
(17:51):
the to the you know, to the hotel.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You saw one this weekend in the script club.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Football players love strip clubs forever because of.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Their like their their industry takes so much like aggression
and like, ah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So they like, I don't know what it is, man,
I just think that it's a fantasy, you know what
I mean? And I think once the fantasy is sort
of sparked, like that's the kind of women they are attracted to,
Like I don't know why you know, Shannon Sharp would
have to get a girl from OnlyFans. I mean that
seemed that's crazy. It's crazy, like you couldn't just get
(18:24):
a regular fan, got to get an I mean you're subscriber,
like you subscribing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You rich like somebody with the extra token. Turn around, baby,
let me see.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It, Like yo, yo, what are you doing? Like come
on man, it's like you here's the thing when you
with Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouth, that's this. You gotta keep
it clean. You can't benhing, baby, you can't. No, no, no,
(19:03):
can't do that now.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But you said something that's important, like you said after
the first situation, you gotta slow down. But you said
he should have went to like some type of class something.
Development isn't there no more for nobody. It's not there
for personalities. Like you got people that literally going in
their living room and becoming like these phenomenons overnight because
the podcast and YouTube.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Wave.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
This this is like he was always dope, you know,
football player, always Hall of Fame da da da, But
this is a wave like he got like boom. You know,
Cat Wims gave him that boom. You know, it's it's
like then you get on on, you leave skip boom,
come to ESPN. That's like that's a rocking wave, right,
so you know you rolling, you know, the light on,
(19:49):
you gotta kind of be careful. He needed an auntie. Man. See,
this is what's lost in the culture, old school black auntie.
Auntie be like, shait you can't do that baby, now,
you done got too nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He tried to tell him. Yeah, yeah, mo yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Mother was trying to help her. But you know he
he liked what he likes. What you're gonna do? Now?
Can you wear it? See what I'm saying? Can you
wear it? Now? So what do we do from here?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
How do you? Olivia Pope that what would you do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean, I mean he ain't killed nobody, you know
what I'm saying, He's just nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Now there's other stories, more stuff. Well it's it's stuff
that has been documented before prior, like like actual legal things.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah yeah, see I don't know she Charlamagne, you be
in the but after the Lord, I mean Lord, you
know all the you know, the good like it's a
lot more to it than this.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I mean, it's out in the BDSM. There's it's out,
there's other there's a woman who just came out recently
and dropped the defamation lawsuit talking about sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, so he walked away from networks before. So this
beat is like, that's the bonded stuff. Is that what
we're talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You sixty years old?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know. I know I'm just saying, okay, so I mean,
you know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's the best thing to do.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
But ye know, I'm just saying like that that that
is a that's a lane. So I mean, that's a lane.
Let's be honest. That's a lane.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'll just say.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You might have come out with super T shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He's got the funk.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know. That's this tricky lane.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's like driving your car one hundred miles an hour
with no seatbelt. Ship gonna happen, You dig like, that's
a tricky laye because it's edgy. That's what I think
is the poor for people. It's so edgy. But it
can always go left because where's the line. Where's the
line you wilding, where's the line where we could come back?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Or like say this the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's tricky. You could be all good on Saturday, we
go back to do it against Sunday and you might
not be on that right now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So now it's a bad deal.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think at this point, at Shannon Sharp's age, he
should just need he needs to sit still with a person,
like marriage something.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think he should do a turkey drive.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
What turkey drives always fixed suff you around.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Turkeys make people feel good. Man, he give it up turkeys.
He didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Somebody And then they send me the photos exclusively.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes, I know, Oh my god, you've.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Seen them like, hey, you give me a bunch of
turkeys and summertime. Know you gotta give out turkey share,
that's the trick. Where's my camera right here? Look, do
a turkey drive. Just give out turkeys randomly all over
the country. Here, baby, get going a little turkey. For
getting going a little turkey. By the time they get
(23:07):
that thirty turkey, this would be oh and it got
to be butter ball.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Listen, now you grew up in that era. Oh god,
that's so funny.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He'd be going through minnopore.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Go ahead. When you look at the Diddy situation. Oh
did you ever think the culture of hip hop would
catch up with people the way that it did because
a lot of this is lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Ah well, well well well, I'll be honest with you, man,
The Diddy situation is just it's gonna it's gonna hurt us.
It's gonna hurt us all no matter what how it
comes out. But it's gonna hurt the culture because to me,
why I say that is because what he's done, uh before,
the culture, before all of this is phenomenal, Like it
(23:58):
never happened before, you know what I mean saying. So
when I think about his career from where he started
at Uptown in turn doing parties, I feel like, you know,
I was coming up on MTV when bad Boy got
Like I remember Puff literally giving out flyers, like literally
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bad Boy T shirt on his shoulder. He out there
with the Street Team. This is when his label was
about to pop off. Cool to cut to becoming you know,
a mogul and you know a god that's an incredible
influencer in the hip hop culture, pop culture right to
come to this point. I didn't see that coming, you
know what I'm saying. I know, but I didn't know
(24:41):
like all the other stuff that people are saying like
that's just like all this stuff is just so like,
oh my god, there's so many Oh my guys, no
Turkey drive could fix you know. Yeah, I would never.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Say crazy like.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's crazy, Like I mean, god, I dang, you know
what I'm saying, because we came up hot. Let me
tell you, the nineties was really a fly ten year
run for everybody that was coming up through it. You know,
cats is getting record deals of substantial money. I remember
when Janet Jackson got her like forty million dollar Virgin
(25:18):
deal or something crazy. Remember they was giving our numbers
for artists, ninety million, this, that and the other whatever whatever.
Puff got a hundred million dollar deal. I remember that,
Like that was a big deal in New York. Like
people was like yo, Puff got his own label. Now
boom boom boom Clive Davis some some something boom ba boom,
hundred million. I'm because I'm interviewing all the artists. So
(25:39):
I'm I'm right there with Craig Mac, I'm there with
with Big, I'm there with Total, I'm there with who
else he had Faith Evans like one twelve. Like, I'm
interviewing all the artists, so I'm seeing this brother Mace,
Oh my god, what you gonna do talking about Island says,
(26:00):
ain't all them in the head bass?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You remember this?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You probably four like I came up with Mason, those
guys in Cameron and guys. So just think about, like,
oh man, I just seen like these guys making money
and our dudes that look like me that came from
situations like me.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
We are here eating to now like damn.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So let's say if he even if he were to
get out of it, his images is smashed. So it's like, damn, man,
you could do all this good and do one thing
and people never feel the same, like you know what
I'm saying, Like they'll never look at you the same.
So that's the part that gonna hurt the culture.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
To me, I think it's the hold on before I
say that, Why do you think it hurt the culture though?
Because he's because.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Part about culture, like like, no, there's very few people
that did what Puff did for hip hop and like
the culture, like like, very few people have done what
jay Z has done. How many rappers you know, you
know a lot of rappers, but you don't know a
lot of rappers that be came billionaires. You don't know
a lot of rappers that came out the street that
you've seen on the block go from being on a
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block to being on a TV show with you from
that to being uh doing world tours to becoming a
mogul like that. That's that's a crazy ride.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like y is hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the legacy of what you've created.
You know, I think about your kids, like I'm thinking
that I have children, So I think about his children
like that's their dad, Like you know there they they
don't want nothing to happen to their dad, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like what what do you do?
Like how do you take care of your kids? If
you're in a bad situation like that? Like, like what
(27:40):
do you do? Are they trying to take all your money?
You have to stash your money all the way, you
know what I mean? You got you got a family.
He's got like a beautiful family. So now and then
the trib about to start, you're gonna be you go,
are they gonna televise it?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It will be it says that you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Are they gonna televise the open bar?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Not?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Open bar is crazy? It's first come, first served.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah at the trial. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Recording is prohibited, what is it?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Broadcasting and recording is prohibited, but it is first come,
for served for me.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So you can sit in there.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, you can sit it go in.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Oh my god, I'm going because.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
To your point is, first of all, I just.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Think it's how you get the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You're just gonna get up. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I didn't think of it like that was just like
what maybe they invited you because you're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
This and they want Oh no, they did invite me.
I emailed them.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You say, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, but I but I forget. Oh. To your point, though,
the reason why I want to go is because yes,
I want to have like first hand account for the show.
But also to this is something that's happening that I
think for years to come people are going to look
back at like, oh wow, that really happened. So the
account is this is like the.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
O J Trial for hip hop for real, like like
like this is like this is going to be like
the o J Trial was in the nineties for hip hop.
Because one of hip hop's biggest pioneers is on trial, Like, Yo,
people gonna be watching it. Watch what I'm telling you.
It's gonna be all over in anything they say in court.
Boom boom boom the charges people that can you know
(29:15):
how many people that's probably gonna testify that we don't
know that's gonna pop up that we know you'd be like,
you're gonna be like yo, snap blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And some of the testimony gonna be funny. It's gonna
be horrible, but it's gonna be funny. And you know,
you know some of it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Ah, it's gonna be a field day for comedians.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I got a real question for you. How you been
around all the time, did all this stuff, but you
ain't never been to a Diddy party.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I didn't get invited like that. I missed it, but
I'm happy. God is good. Wony do it do it?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You ain't got to go to everything, but you was like, look,
I was right there though you were.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I was not today you were, And that was like
the iconic like when they were partying here in New York.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I remember that at Hamptons and all this. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep,
I remember all that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Did you ever have to fight to get hip hop
on MTV back then?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, man, Charlotmagne, come on, let's you You know what
we did, Okay, So listen, this is how how it was.
So when I came on MTV, it was mostly rock.
There was there was they was tip to one with
hip hop. But we're gonna play a little bit. We're
gonna play a little bit over here with Yo. We
got Yo MTV raps th those guys ed Andre are
doing a great job. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I wasn't even on the channel yet.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So now we're getting this, this hybrid show that's going
to show you that hip hop is crossing over a
little bit. We're not only gonna do nas, but we're
gonna do Salt and Pepper. We're gonna do l L.
We're gonna do Leaders in the New School. We're gonna
do uh Domino, and we're gonna do Coolio, and we're
gonna do this young dude named Snoop. So now you're
(30:58):
getting all these new artists. You got ice Cube, now
you got this, you got that. So now the plate
got bigger. So I just happened to be the god
delivering the plate to the people, like, Yo, we got this,
we got this, we got this. Oh my god, we
got this girl from Detroit named Boss. Nobody mentions her Boss.
Boss was a young artist came up just like the Brat,
(31:22):
like Brad was the first platinum female artist, girl to
go platinum. Like people don't talk about that no more.
She was the first artist to go platinum female, not
not like it was the Brat. Right, So I'm just
because I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Feel like I'm bringing you that, but I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So so my point being is, I just think it
was really really a blessing for me at that time,
just to be in the right place at the right time,
because I love the music and I love us, you know,
saying I wanted you if you was a new artist.
I'm like, I'm trying to get you on, like, yo,
you gotta come on here, make sure you get fix
her hair, make sure she looks like, okay, cool, cool cool, No, No,
(32:10):
but what I'm saying, y'all, y'all, y'all can figure this
out so real quick.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Anything going on Turkey.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Drive, I already do what and you to see how
you ain't been.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Turkeys on the ground. They just forget this.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Many people go do nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He gave me a turkey.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What was the biggest thing that MTV passed up on
that you were like? And they was like, nah, were good,
And then later like now you're looking back, like man,
that was the iconic moment we could add.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I can't remember that. I can remember what they almost
blew on. There's a couple of things that that happened
like this. One I remember very very vividly was H Town.
So H Town was on Luke Records, right, so you
got the group, the group knocking the Boost. So I
was in like in the South, I was doing the
(33:09):
show or something. I heard knocking the boost. I said,
oh my god, what is that. I go back to MTV.
I'm like, listen this Duesda down the goddamn Tuscaloosa got
this song that's fire in. Everybody going crazy. I said,
we gotta get this on MTV. Oh my god, what
(33:31):
who is it? What is it?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
H Town? Look records, Oh my god, we can't touch it.
Look looks because at this time Luke is like, you know,
he is the Hugh Hefner of hip hop, and they
doing pop up. They rugged, They wow, they wow, but
they but he got an R and B group, that's
not they a sexy R and B. I go in there.
(33:55):
I showed him the tape. I said, Yo, this is
that and the other blah blah blah. They're like, oh
my god, look the billboard. Let's see what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Is it doing?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Is it a heat seeker? What is it doing on
the charts. I was like, it don't matter what the
charts is. I'm telling you this song right here is crazy.
We get the video, they still on it, we put
it on the air. Oh my god, your your you know,
(34:23):
you know music. I've been telling you. You see, that's
the thing. When you live in the tower, you not
on the on the ground. You don't know the people, right.
So that's why I never stay in the tower to
this day. I never stay in the tower because you
don't know what the fuck going on.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Did you ever get a chance to turn the group
that I got the play?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That was a real risk song. Back then it was.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Boom boom. You know, it's a lot of grinding, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Interesting. I want to remember that we used to. I
wonder what the difference between knocking the boots and sex
you up. Boys. They white, You're right there.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You you know we nasty, they're pleasant.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
They have no problem with sex you up.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
We did, we did color me bad. I want to
sex you up? Yeah, so all them groups like now
you don't even see groups no more. We had color
me bad boys, the men shy jo toasy girls high five.
We had jade, uh who else? Give me another group,
(35:31):
Give me another group, give me damns so many man,
I love total though.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It was just can't you see what you do to me?
You said you regret coining the term booty guard.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I ain't regret it. I regret that I didn't trademark it.
I would have had a lot of money if I.
If I had trademark that right now, it'll be a
hologram sitting right here. That term.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
What made you come up with that? German?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was the way I was writing the jokes at
the time. I was her name the girl, Yes, I
don't remember. I didn't have the girl, didn't have a
name in the in the in the joke, it was basically, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Talking about the girl you actually slept with that inspired you.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Oh I don't remember. I tell you it was he
was he was of age.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I know she was at least twenty four, twenty five
that twenty four something like that. I try to keep
it eating. But yeah, so what he called came from
uh me just talking about a girl coming to your crib,
(36:41):
you know what I mean. I had just got a
brand new crib loft joint. You know, I'm getting that
money now and stuff. So I was just like, oh man,
it's crazy when you you wanted chicks to come by,
and I'm like, damn, they always bring a friend and
stuff like the blow, the blow, the vibe because like
the thing about it was booty call is basically like
you call this chick up and you like hoping she answers.
(37:03):
She answers, like, yo, what you're doing. She's like, oh
my god, I don't know. You're like, YO, want you to
come through for a second? You hoping? She she said yes,
She's like yeah, I could just slide through in about
an hour. You're like, oh, you are happy whatever. And
then you get in your house and get together. You
like trying to set it up. You're putting the candles
and stuff. You know, you're trying to make it fly.
And then she come to the door and she got
(37:23):
her friend. She's like, hey, ball, You're like, what is that?
And she like, how long y'all gonna because she brings
the ugly girlfriend the block case it ain't going right,
she gotta she got it out, y'all. You know how
y'all do team team defense? You ready to go?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
What they do that you'd be like, yo, if I
text you this word, call me because I can say
it's an emergency and I got a this.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
They do defense on us, say for it.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
You ain't and she ain't like you girl will come
over like we gotta go your baby, your baby is leaving,
or they'll do some some creek.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So you you just you didn't have no kids.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well it's a baby I just found so anyway, they
make them stuff. But that's team defense for y'all.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right, Yeah, I told you, damn.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Would you have known what the dude like if you
have trademarked it back then and it like once it
started blowing up in the movies going all that, would
you have known what to do with it?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Or you were just said I think I think I
would have just did like merchandise and stuff like that.
Because people still say booty call. They try to say
sneaky link, but it don't sneaky link. Don't sneaky links
sound like it's contagious.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's the same thing as a booty caller, I.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Know, but it don't it sound like you get a
rash from a sneaky link, right, sneaky link. Booty calls
sound like sound like I got some booty It was fun.
Sneaky links sound like.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
See now they're not even saying sneaky link. It's fine
ship now. So it's like you'd like you my little
fine ship. Yeah, like my little fine ship coming over,
a little fine ship.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I'm too old for that. I don't want fine shit.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I want what happened to wife?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, nah, it depends on, like you know, where
y'all are in the stages of things.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
But so if okay, right now you meet somebody.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Another great group next boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom. I wonder if she could feel my
dick getting hard right now? They was talking about getting
hard in the Dirty version of the Dirty.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I wonder if she could feel inside. I can't deny
he was talking about being hard in the club yes,
I can't hide it. Girl, you're dancing real clothes.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Y'all just made it. I'll package it when.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I turned into want to be my wife, So you
got to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Gotta start with the levels, my little fine ship. Then
it's like that's bad, and it's like that's wifey. Now
we let together. You got a booty call because you
go home and she there anyway, and she don't want
give you nothing anyway because she's been seeing you every day.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Donna get bad, Baby mama dead be that can happen.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
To not in my trajectory.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So now like on social media, baby Mama is BM right, Yeah,
I had to figure that out. I was like, that
was a cop. Yeah, I bought two of those. I
bought two of those? What and why end is your niggas?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You want stay away from those?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Definitely, that's that's that that the y ns mess up
the club.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, we used to call them killers, so they just ate.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
They the killers that be in the corner. As soon
as we see them, we leave.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Did you bring me up to speed?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I got you. You said you want to do another
how to be a player. Are you really working on
an updated version of that? What would that even look
like in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh, Shanny Sharp would not be in it all. You
are nobody, nobody that's messing up, got anything? You would
have to be a player to Nope, Nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Is it even worth being a player? Because Kendrick Lamar said,
and I agree with him on the new album g Next,
he says, you better off being with one woman. Everything
tricky right now?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, it's trick right now. I think for the comedy
of it, it would be really good for the culture.
I feel like it would be good because it's nostalgic.
Everybody's the right age now. Some Cats was like in
their teenage years, some Cats was in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think if we do it coming like if it
comes out next summer, I think it would be perfect
because we can talk about certain things, you know how
like technology is blowing casts up. You know what I'm saying,
leaving your phone open, girl, using your face while you sleep.
I feel like we should have alarms on our phones,
you know, like say saying you you sleep and your
(41:34):
girls try to go.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Or you could just not have nothing in the phone.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
That's true too.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, always got something in our phone. You know, you
got stuff. Everybody got something their phone, that something. They
just be like, Nah, I didn't think nobody was gonna
see that your phone clean.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I mean, I could I do what I want to
do right now what I'm saying, But that's if your
phone was just left open and people went to swiping.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Would you be would you be good?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Look at the pause, she said, which phone?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Okay, Now what if you did then updated version of
the Brothers.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
That's supposed to be happening, and you had doctor.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Umar in it? Mad at you because how much you
like white women.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Doctor Umar would be. He would just show up on
my dates.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yes, he's a cousin. Come on, brother, every time you
something no reason, don't let the butnets.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Get your brother. Boy. If doctor Umar have a mixed baby,
I'm a pass out. It'll never have no I know,
I'm just joking. Umar. He's staying on business with his stuff. Well,
he hit it so hard. He better not even drink
white milk. Get me, he better have brown rice in
his house. I don't want to hear. He is over
(42:54):
the top. I love watching him just go off. He
just come through my phone every now and then I'll
be wiping on my phone. He'll be like, listen, brother,
I'm gonna tell you what you need. You need a sister,
keep this culture, keep the vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm like, oh, Lord, could we forgive doctor Umar if
he got with a white woman like we found.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Would we would go crazy? Black people, we go crazy.
I know it. You know we want you to fall,
you know, black?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
So what could he do to get everything back in
and get back in our good graces?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Turkey drive for black people. A turkey drive solve all
your problems. Just go Costco right now. If you know
you're gonna do some dumb shit, get you a bunch
of turkeys. As soon as that ship dropped, you just
start giving them out and people forgive you.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Bill Bella me his top billing toy is going on
right now. He's gonna be at the Improv Comedy Club
May third and the fourth.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, I'll be in Bray of California.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, Brad California, four wing in Indiana, mad Knife and
eleven from the Summer City Comedy Club. He'll be at
the Chicago Improv in Schanberg, Illinois, May sixteenth through the eighteenth,
the Miami in Provle in Miami, Florida, May thirtiefter the
June first, and the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Cleveland
June sixth to the eighth.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Let's go, man, Let's go, man. That's how we do it. Man.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Thank you all so much, man always.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Oh, thank you. I had another question. You were no,
I didn't know, so we didn't. We didn't get to
meet a lot. I only met Donnelle because he had
a lot going on. He had like did something in
the airport or something. I had to call him. I
ain't never had to call your teams. He's a good thing,
Thank god. I had a question for you. Wait are
you still you're so married?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Is your wife white? Oh? Okay? Because I was looking,
I thought that your wife.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Was well, she mixed.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
She got like okay, all right. Because with the doctor Umer,
I'm like laughing.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
No, no, doctor, no, no, my my wife.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's the reason why I like.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Jokes. Don't let him get you in the commy can't
get me.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
But you know, Wendy used to get me though she always.
But people don't realize that black people coming every shade.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like I saw that clip of Wendy last night when
I was getting ready, I didn't see.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That one because because because it was so funny, because
my life looks so like you don't know if she
wear hair this way is one thing where you like,
you don't know what the hell is going on, right,
And so one day it was Wendy. Wendy was like,
so Bell, you know this is the good the good
days of Wendy or whatever. Bell, So what is your wife?
You know? It's like she's black, half black, half white
(45:19):
one too. One side is the good times, the other
side is bratty much? How was I know?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I that's another one. Did you ever think Wendy would
be in the situation that she's currently in.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Man, I just hope she could get her life back
and they I don't know who signed her off on
this goofy thing, conservativeship. It's scary, Like it made me realize,
no matter how we successful we get, we should make
sure that nobody could just take over us.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You make sure your paperwork is in already, make sure
your paper you will never know. You get sick and
then have some weird person telling you your family can't
do nothing. You can't do nothing. Nah, take care of
your business and pray for Wendy.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
When people tell all these stories about like these iconic
interviews and hip hop stuff, why don't they mention you
more and stuff?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Because people I don't know why. Like I think what
happens is people forget you know what I mean, because
they always jump into the next You got to do
your history. That's why I can come to the Breakfast
club and have a good time because you guys know,
like there's certain things you know, and then I grew
up here, so it's certain things that people be like, Yo,
I remember, like I'm from Jersey, right, I'm from Jersey.
(46:28):
So the crazy thing, Like I remember the first time
I met Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was at Webster Hall
at a party. Right, this is when Mike was Mike.
Mike would knock somebody out and be in a club
like Mike would knock somebody out and literally being the
club with us. Right, the first time I met Mike Tyson, right,
and I didn't know Mike Tyson knew who I was yet,
(46:49):
and we.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
In the men's bathroom.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
I never forget this, and Mike comes in, I'm like
I can see him in the mirror. You know you
at the urine you can see. I said, oh shit,
this Mike. Oh shit. He was like, mana be funny, William,
w wh call me William, You're very funny.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Me.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Well, I loved your deaf comedy. Gam You're ready funny, Man,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Man. I was like, Yo, that's Mike motherfucking Dyce's man.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
I was like, damn right there.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But I told Mike, I said, Mike, you know you
the first hip hop champ.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Absolutely, like he was of the culture.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Like we literally could watch Mike and Madison Square Guarden
and see him at nails, like he would just be.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
One of the first hip hop mainstream stars too, right,
whether whether he knew that or not.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Mike left a Bingley Rose Royce in the middle of
the street somewhere. Wait, do you remember that it was
a Rose Rocet? Did he get love?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
If you know, if you read Bobby Brown's book that
him and Bobby says him and Mike used to do
that all the time. They'd be in different cities and
see somebody give them a bag of cash and just
body car and leave it. These guys were making so
much money back then. That it was unbelievable. They didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Do you see only I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
What kind of car was does Tyson leaving a Rose
Royce on the street in nineteen eighty eight?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, they were going to take the car from him,
so he let them and keep it. But after photographers
saw them and the captain saw the picture, they ordered
him to return. They give the car back to him.
No officers were suspended ten days without pay yep. And
then he offered lover of the Rose Royce.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I think MTV also hasn't done a good job of
a good job of like preserving the content that I
don't think bt but be honest with your bet either,
like that there's there's gold platinum classic material.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Between v They should be airing it like a TV
show because it's literally music history.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
That's how I'm getting ready for this. Yesterday watching some
of the you have old clips on YouTube, I got.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
So much stuff. Like I remember interviewing A Leah. I
mean I just just hit popped back in my head
and she was showing me that one two check up.
Everybody know what that was her first album she did.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
We sit there and watched that all day with you
narrating you fab five freddie Na rating, Yeah yeah, ed
loving that reading.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Onto that over Janet Jackson. The Janney Jackson interview, you
were like you was you had a crush on Oh
my god that interview for.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
You just didn't I didn't know what to do by myself.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
You know. If I knew Jermaine could pull it, I
would have pulled it, you know what I mean. He
just had more courage. He caught it straight. No, No,
I love JD. But JD pulled up I did. I mean,
you know what I'm saying. I was on tour, wed
and everything, and I was just like dag, you know.
I it was so interesting because we had such a
really cool friendship that I didn't know, like I didn't
(49:34):
want to mess it up, like crossing the line, you
know what I'm saying. So I never did. But the
thing about it was she used to flirt with me
on camera, like in front of everybody, and I was
like what, but I ain't. I would be like stuck
because I ain't know what to do with it, right,
you know what I'm saying. I'd be like, she ain't
really mean that they say if you can make a laugh.
You can crack auss, bro, I promise you. But you
gotta understand she was so big at the time. So
(49:56):
I'm thinking, like, you know, this is Janet Jackson. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
But then she'll be like Bill come by the house.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He never went by the house.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh yeah, I went by the house and what. But
it was a bunch of us. It was never like
I was never like along with her like that, Like
I would party with them and stuff because we was
on tour together and stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
But I should have pulled up though I ain't. No,
I should have came over there with a turkey, like, YO,
got you a turkey?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Janet, It's Bill Bellamy. Man. Where can they follow you? Bill?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Follow me at Bill Bellamie on Instagram, I'm on the TikTok,
I'm on Facebook wherever it is. Subscribe to your podcast,
subscribe to our top billing. We love y'all man peace.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
It's the Breakfast Club, Bill Bellamy, Wake that ass up
in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club. Yup, mister w Ald, most dangerous morning show,
The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne and God, DJ Envy and Jessa out.
But Laura Leroe says here and we got the legendary,
the iconic Bill Bellamy is in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I love the Breakfast Club. We hell no, you are
aging amazingly.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you man. You know I'm only seventy three and
ain't nothing but coconut water, Lauren. You know, you get
coconut water, get cup of strawberry blueberries, a little bit
of shape. Buddy, you look like that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But you playing or you just turned sixty a couple
of weeks ago. That is an amazing sixty, my brother.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But I don't know what sixty is supposed to look
like because I'm comparing it to what we grew up on.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
No no, no, no, no, we didn'tnew. We didn't know. We
didn knew because you know, back in the day, if
you told somebody who was sixty years old, they'd be like, man,
I just got me some pancakes from our hot.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know, for free. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Now you know, we move and groover, we work out.
You taking care of yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We know what we eating, that's right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You watch it diet and you know, if you has
to have good health, you look good.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you take advantage of that kind of stuff though,
like the free pancakes from my hop and all of the.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Man I haven't really leaned into the scene city thing,
but I really think I need to get like some
of them little benefits and stuff. Yeah, I don't have one.
You think I should pull up.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, I feel like that's the right of past.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Right, But I just don't want to be unk everywhere.
Like you know what I'm saying, I'm getting unk now,
I'm getting o G. O G is kind of like
on the basketball court, be making me feel like I
can't play no more.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You want the ball, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Like, yeah, might not helping you up off the ground,
calling you.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But it's it's a tricky thing. O G is cool
unk just in certain cases. And I'll be honest with you.
I was in a club where was I recently and
I felt.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Like, you need to go home?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know this music because because some of
the music I just don't know. I feel like I
just missed it, like uh, like I love glow Rilla,
but she got this joint that's so. But all the
girls know the words and I ain't know nothing. That's
when I feel like I gotta go home.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What is it? How does it go? Tell me? She
got so much? Since?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, it was?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Is it sexy? Rad too?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay independent?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yes, every girl in there from twenty five to thirty
five was going crazy and I met the bar like, man,
I gotta go home.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Man, y'all ain't playing by nature. Y'all, y'all don't know track.
But that's funny when you say, because like when you
get to a certain age, when you think about everybody
who didn't make it from our culture, correct, does that
make you appreciate it more? Yo? Man?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Honestly yes, yes, yes, a very very good thing you said,
because you know what, to have a long career is
a blessing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And then we lost so many people that came up
with us. Charlemagne, you've been my boy forever, like we
came up like at around the same time, like we
went to the same school kind.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
We've seen you know, from the Little Kim days to
you know, let's say boys the Men that ninety early nineties.
I remember when Buster Rheims and first got on with
leaders of the New School. I remember like the Deaf
Jam offices, like the Source magazine, like all that energy
of the nineties. I remember when Q Tip went solo.
(03:22):
You know what I'm saying, L like ladies man rap,
like like there's so many moments of hip hop that
we experienced, and to think now, I'm like, man, that's
such a great time for us to be able to
experience it. I mean, I remember interviewing Michael Jackson, Like
how many people did it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just think about that, how many.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
People interviewed like they not even Like if you would
have told me twenty years ago Michael Jackson would not
be alive, Like that doesn't make sense. Like I always
thought like them dudes would live forever, Like Prince like
he was so damn cool, Michael was so damn cool,
Whitney Jersey girl, Like I have all these wonderful memories
of these people left eye, you know, damn Like we
(04:03):
did all this stuff with MTV when people were just
coming up, people getting on, people getting accepted, they starting
to go platinum.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So you young, you don't even know it was young.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I got to make sure.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I make sure.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But like like I remember when Usher went diamond. I
remember when the Fuji's went diamond like diamond was like
way out did like you told somebody you went diamond?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And that was real albums I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think it's just different for y'all because people had
to go and get the you know what I mean.
Like right now we're streaming, so it's like, okay, cool,
that's people listening. Different when all these people were going
to the store.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Nobody is going to the record store like me and
Charla Man Me and Charlamagne Knew. Remember tow Records here
in New York. We remember when it was the album released.
People was lined up to get your album. Remember I
remember taking the plaf Remember when you remember when you
couldn't get.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The plastic You needed a razor.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You had to take a key and get the damn
album out and then you read then you did you
ever get a thank you?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Did you ever? Like I wasn't around. I'm forty six,
so I started getting thank you later on, Like but
that was like early two thousands.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like when you would get the album and you'd be like, YO,
want to shout out made for your support on my
album or whatever, and then I would read all the
producers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Those days are open. You don't even get artwork.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
What thank you for? You get artwork?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, you don't get You don't get Are you just
getting Christmas song?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it's like a special thing if they released like
artwork and images, and normally it's like merch and like
something swaggy.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So you got to buy a T shirt to get artwork?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Now yeah, less people do know what you're talking about
t shirts.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You talk about the album.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know what he's talking about. But I'm not that old.
I mean that young, Like I had the definite writings
on the Walls two side album I had Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Did you ever go to a drive in theater?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I did, But it was like a cool vintage experience
that like we blogged like it was not.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Have Michael Jackson thriller? Why would you tell that long?
I saw it was you on.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Nineteen ninety one? My mom added, I remember going and
buying that album, and like you had, they opened up
like this, like and they had all the writings on
Oh see that, go.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Ahead, girl, you're writing a Patton.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh my gosh, you're young old now you hear about
a lot of this in the top building. But just
talk to the people. What was then interviewing Michael? Like
somebody literally asked me that this weekend you haven't you
have an interviewed Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm like, nah, Michael. Interview of Michael Jackson was like
talking to uh, you know, a prince, a king of
some sort of some royalty. Because the way he moved,
you know what I'm saying, Like he was to me
the epitome of being a rock star, superstar. He had
Like if he was in here right now, it'd be
thirty people here, thirty people that you don't know what
(06:45):
they do, but they look like they killed people. Three
four publicists, you got the record label people, you got
his personal people, and and then everything it's just like,
oh my god, like you don't want to make a mistake,
and he comes in every thing set up the lighting.
You just like like I'd be sitting there like this,
(07:06):
well we're gonna do this, and is people will be like, no,
Michael's gonna do three five and nine. Thank you, that's
how they used to be. I'm like, he had his
own lighting person, Like you ever heard of a person
having a cinematographer for a interview.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Ryan Carey came in the studio and had them had
her team sent up lights and I was like, Pearl,
and I said, Mariah, they only gonna be able to
see you. And she was like, that's the point, that's
the whole darling.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yo, how did the lighting people get there before Michael
got there two hours?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That same thing that he said is true because I
interviewed Mariah Carey in Hawaii and Jermaine was there too,
and I was like, jd where's Mariah. He was like, yo, man,
Mariah be down. About three hours. We waited her man
to get hit DP. I didn't know what that was
at the time, so I was like, say, that's Daniel Pearl,
he'll be here. He like all of Mariah's stuff, Right,
(07:58):
this dude comes. He got like ten people they like
they doing the little thing. Turned that down to thirty percent,
put that up to ten five. It looks like Heaven, Heaven, heaven, everybody,
Heaven bring Maray out because the lighting was heaven, Swear
to God. I was sitting out there black. I got
so black. I was sitting out there with just like, man,
(08:20):
she'll be here in another hour. They didn't even give
me no water. This back in the day MTV stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What happened to that era?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like, can you even build a superstar like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I guess on TikTok. I learned a lot of
great artists on TikTok. I've just just come up with
my feed because you know, when I came up back
in the day, we knew who was dropping. We knew
that the new Beyonce album was dropping. We knew Jay
was dropping something. We knew that, you know, Redman and
Meth was doing something. Now I'll get a TikTok video
(08:53):
that's a challenge or something. I click on that and
then I find an artist and I'm like yo, and
I lock it in. That's how I've been doing it lately.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But can those people become those superstar global icons we're
talking about, Cause I feel like there's a level, Because
I feel like there's a level of what's the world,
There's a level of curation that's not happening anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, you know what we missed a few steps. You
know what I'm saying, Like, I'll give you a perfect example,
Leon Thomas, Love Love Love leon Thomas. Right, I got
windowed Leon Thomas by mistake. Mutt was on Instagram and
it was doing somebody was doing a was singing his song,
(09:32):
trying to do like a version of it. I said, Damn,
this shit's kind of dope. I go click on that.
Then I clicked to him and I'm like, oh, then
there's a Chris Brown remix.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I had to click to that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now I down like with all that on Spotify, That's
how I'm finding artists. It's like, what the fuck? You
know what I'm saying. It's like, damn, they don't promote
the artists like they used to. Coco Jones right now
on Fire.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Label won't even send her music to the ratio.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You said that. I was like, what why would they
do that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I have to it does and Andre Martinez.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's like, what are you doing? It's like nobody gets
the press kid sent out no more where they really
show you what the what the project is, how they
gonna promote it, and what the how much money they
putting behind the artists, like Cocle Jones is Fire like
she's in a pocket right now to me, and you
know I love her music. I like, give me on
h Do everybody know I do? I think he's dope
(10:26):
as hell. I'm trying to think of somebody else that
I just was like, Oh, snap, snow Allegra, Oh god Lee,
what snow is? Bananas? Is there like a big big
I had Danny Lee on my on my podcast, she's
dope too. Then all of a sudden, I don't even
hear nothing. It's like, Yo, she was rolling rolling Maida?
(10:48):
Is it Mada or Maa? Mighta Meda? Meida? Am I
saying it the right wing Medada? She's a new artist.
She was on my podcast super Dope. I give you
one more guy, Tone Stiff. You know him? See you
know Tone and you young, you better google.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
In your mind.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's a real artist. But more importantly, you know what
I'm saying, Like, as much as I love music, I'm
trying to incorporate that vibe to my to my my
new tour, Top Build because it's like I feel like
it's going to bring people away, bring people together in
a way that they're going to be very very nostalgic.
Because I feel like, you know, what we're talking about
(11:35):
is it exists in people. They just don't have anybody
to bring it together. And that's what I want to be.
I want to be like that. That be gonna like
to bring music, comedy in a moment of hip hop
that is just incredible to the people. That's what I
really wanted it to feel like. When you leave, you're like, damn, man,
I got way more than I thought, you know what
I mean. And I feel like that's really possible. Now
(11:55):
we've got social media, you can shot shot our clips
to people. They could see a little bit of your show,
see what's going on. Like, Yo, I'm going to see
that stuff. Whenever I play anything with Mary, Mary, Mary
just she just does it for the ladies, everybody Mary
something else.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The other day I seen it with them boots on
her look like her ankles with her.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're seeing her own thing. She's looking like she looks
like she'd be tired. Yeah, Mar Mary.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I came up with, Man, I love me some Mary.
Boom boom boom boom, Yo. I just love this part
right here.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She got the little bump to it, just like that
one hit.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Hurt shout out. Now you married. Now you haven't done
a special since twenty twenty two, right, so it's top
billing working towards that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, Okay, So I think right now I have an
hour of comedy that is crazy funny, Like I think
nobody's talking about what I'm talking about right now. It's
very relevant. I mean, it's so much stuff going on
right now, from Diddy to Shannon Shop to sho Door,
(13:11):
Like there's so many elements in the culture that everybody's
thinking about, like, oh my god, and I want to
capture this moment because it's right now. So I'm really
trying to tape soon so that everything that I'm talking
about will be indicative of this moment in the culture.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I was gonna say, how are you, because I know
you got the podcast, but like you obviously you're so
aware of everything because of your background and like interviews
and stuff. How do you bring the podcast to the stage,
Like are you shooting the podcast?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I usually shoot the podcast in the studio. I'm going
to try to do the podcast live too, because I
think it would be kind of nice to be able
to have the energy of the people there too, and
then they could you know, ask people questions doing my interviews,
and then we could have like some interaction and shoot
it that way. I think that could brings some different
(14:01):
energy in season two.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I just think it's interesting because there's a lot of
people who try to intertwine all of that, but like
they're not really as up to date in like current
as you are. Like you just write it off. I'm
just sitting here listening. You just rattle off so much,
and I'm like, oh, he's on the headlines. Oh yeah,
your background, you know what you you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, you have to be a student of the game
as well. Like for me, I have to read all
the time. So like at night when the house is quiet,
I'm reading every publication, I'm listening to music. I have
to stay in the culture because it's like there's stuff.
It's a language. The culture is a language, right, and
so if you get outside the language and then you
(14:37):
try to come back, you're gonna sound dated. You're gonna
sound like, oh, they don't even talk like that no more,
or whatever, you know what I mean. So for me,
it's very important for me to stay very very relevant
and conscious of what's popping, you know. I watch you,
I watch you now, I watch Jazz, I watched the
New Comedians, I watch you know, the news and seeing like,
oh shoot, I watched the headlines that's popping off on
(14:58):
social media, like, oh, everybody's talking about this. What's what's
the deal? You know what I'm saying, Get in the
trenches with it. Oh wow, this is a good angle.
So what I do with comedy is I'll take like
something that's that's a real subject matter and flip it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And now you you laughing, but you're like, oh my god,
that's crazy. What made him say that? Because you got
to know it?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So how do you flip something like the Shannon Sharp situation?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We just well, first of all, Shannon Sharp did not
see how to be a player at all. Okay, so
let's just just let's get that out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He must have missed the vhs and the DVD release
you got yo.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He fifty six years old. He should have seen it coming.
It was right on, what's that sound? Your ass is coming?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's coming?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's the man? Skip should have known not skip sharing,
and Sharp should have known when when that first tape
leak that we gotta slow down.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's a little bit. It's a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, baby, with that talk to it. Yeah, I ain't
need know I was live. They tell me, baby, at
least now now if you are going live and you
don't know what you two, if you.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Don't even know of and you gotta click click to
do it. So he wanted to be live. They don't, baby, Joe,
Daddy what it did him? Daddy what it did?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Right? He full throttle got caught on that one. Everything
should have been shut down, went to some type of class.
You can't talk nasty no more. You can't talk nasty, shennon,
calm down, Get you a nice, nice, solid woman on
to the corner that and just lay load for a
minute to listen. What is it not even eight nine
(16:40):
months later?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That had been that long?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It is he backing them streets? Damn, you mess up
the bag. I'm telling you right now. White girls can't
even say nothing to me. I was at the dog
part of his wife said, oh nice, sorry, I took
my dog and ran I wouldn't even trying to im.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm like, Jonathan, what about the age difference? Because when
he met us, she was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Thank god, thank god, she was nineteen. It's too far. See,
I got a young daughter, so I can't even process
my daughter's twenty one. So I'm thinking. I'm thinking, like
my daughter, I'm me and Shannon in the alley wake scraping.
I can't wear that. But you know what I'm saying,
these cats, I don't know, athletes are different. I just
(17:31):
be honest. I think it's a it's a difference with
these type of guys, Like they get they get attracted
to certain things that are different, like like, why do
like most football players like strip clubs. I don't know.
They just like that. I mean when I did any
given study, that's what we was in strip club. Come on, dog,
let go see the girl. Man, brial talk may blow
off some things. Drink a little bit, get back to
(17:51):
the to the you know, to the hotel.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You saw one this weekend in the script club.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Football players love strip clubs forever because of.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Their like their their industry takes so much like aggression
and like, ah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So they like, I don't know what it is, man,
I just think that it's a fantasy, you know what
I mean? And I think once the fantasy is sort
of sparked, like that's the kind of women they are attracted to,
Like I don't know why you know, Shannon Sharp would
have to get a girl from OnlyFans. I mean that
seemed that's crazy. It's crazy, like you couldn't just get
(18:24):
a regular fan, got to get an I mean you're subscriber,
like you subscribing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You rich like somebody with the extra token. Turn around, baby,
let me see.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It, Like yo, yo, what are you doing? Like come
on man, it's like you here's the thing when you
with Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouth, that's this. You gotta keep
it clean. You can't benhing, baby, you can't. No, no, no,
(19:03):
can't do that now.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But you said something that's important, like you said after
the first situation, you gotta slow down. But you said
he should have went to like some type of class something.
Development isn't there no more for nobody. It's not there
for personalities. Like you got people that literally going in
their living room and becoming like these phenomenons overnight because
the podcast and YouTube.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Wave.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
This this is like he was always dope, you know,
football player, always Hall of Fame da da da, But
this is a wave like he got like boom. You know,
Cat Wims gave him that boom. You know, it's it's
like then you get on on, you leave skip boom,
come to ESPN. That's like that's a rocking wave, right,
so you know you rolling, you know, the light on,
(19:49):
you gotta kind of be careful. He needed an auntie. Man. See,
this is what's lost in the culture, old school black auntie.
Auntie be like, shait you can't do that baby, now,
you done got too nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He tried to tell him. Yeah, yeah, mo yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Mother was trying to help her. But you know he
he liked what he likes. What you're gonna do? Now?
Can you wear it? See what I'm saying? Can you
wear it? Now? So what do we do from here?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
How do you? Olivia Pope that what would you do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean, I mean he ain't killed nobody, you know
what I'm saying, He's just nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Now there's other stories, more stuff. Well it's it's stuff
that has been documented before prior, like like actual legal things.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah yeah, see I don't know she Charlamagne, you be
in the but after the Lord, I mean Lord, you
know all the you know, the good like it's a
lot more to it than this.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I mean, it's out in the BDSM. There's it's out,
there's other there's a woman who just came out recently
and dropped the defamation lawsuit talking about sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, so he walked away from networks before. So this
beat is like, that's the bonded stuff. Is that what
we're talking about?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You sixty years old?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know. I know I'm just saying, okay, so I mean,
you know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's the best thing to do.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
But ye know, I'm just saying like that that that
is a that's a lane. So I mean, that's a lane.
Let's be honest. That's a lane.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'll just say.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You might have come out with super T shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He's got the funk.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know. That's this tricky lane.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's like driving your car one hundred miles an hour
with no seatbelt. Ship gonna happen, You dig like, that's
a tricky laye because it's edgy. That's what I think
is the poor for people. It's so edgy. But it
can always go left because where's the line. Where's the
line you wilding, where's the line where we could come back?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Or like say this the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's tricky. You could be all good on Saturday, we
go back to do it against Sunday and you might
not be on that right now.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So now it's a bad deal.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think at this point, at Shannon Sharp's age, he
should just need he needs to sit still with a person,
like marriage something.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think he should do a turkey drive.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
What turkey drives always fixed suff you around.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Turkeys make people feel good. Man, he give it up turkeys.
He didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Somebody And then they send me the photos exclusively.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes, I know, Oh my god, you've.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Seen them like, hey, you give me a bunch of
turkeys and summertime. Know you gotta give out turkey share,
that's the trick. Where's my camera right here? Look, do
a turkey drive. Just give out turkeys randomly all over
the country. Here, baby, get going a little turkey. For
getting going a little turkey. By the time they get
(23:07):
that thirty turkey, this would be oh and it got
to be butter ball.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Listen, now you grew up in that era. Oh god,
that's so funny.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He'd be going through minnopore.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Go ahead. When you look at the Diddy situation. Oh
did you ever think the culture of hip hop would
catch up with people the way that it did because
a lot of this is lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Ah well, well well well, I'll be honest with you, man,
The Diddy situation is just it's gonna it's gonna hurt us.
It's gonna hurt us all no matter what how it
comes out. But it's gonna hurt the culture because to me,
why I say that is because what he's done, uh before,
the culture, before all of this is phenomenal, Like it
(23:58):
never happened before, you know what I mean saying. So
when I think about his career from where he started
at Uptown in turn doing parties, I feel like, you know,
I was coming up on MTV when bad Boy got
Like I remember Puff literally giving out flyers, like literally
(24:19):
bad Boy T shirt on his shoulder. He out there
with the Street Team. This is when his label was
about to pop off. Cool to cut to becoming you know,
a mogul and you know a god that's an incredible
influencer in the hip hop culture, pop culture right to
come to this point. I didn't see that coming, you
know what I'm saying. I know, but I didn't know
(24:41):
like all the other stuff that people are saying like
that's just like all this stuff is just so like,
oh my god, there's so many Oh my guys, no
Turkey drive could fix you know. Yeah, I would never.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Say crazy like.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's crazy, Like I mean, god, I dang, you know
what I'm saying, because we came up hot. Let me
tell you, the nineties was really a fly ten year
run for everybody that was coming up through it. You know,
cats is getting record deals of substantial money. I remember
when Janet Jackson got her like forty million dollar Virgin
(25:18):
deal or something crazy. Remember they was giving our numbers
for artists, ninety million, this, that and the other whatever whatever.
Puff got a hundred million dollar deal. I remember that,
Like that was a big deal in New York. Like
people was like yo, Puff got his own label. Now
boom boom boom Clive Davis some some something boom ba boom,
hundred million. I'm because I'm interviewing all the artists. So
(25:39):
I'm I'm right there with Craig Mac, I'm there with
with Big, I'm there with Total, I'm there with who
else he had Faith Evans like one twelve. Like, I'm
interviewing all the artists, so I'm seeing this brother Mace,
Oh my god, what you gonna do talking about Island says,
(26:00):
ain't all them in the head bass?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You remember this?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You probably four like I came up with Mason, those
guys in Cameron and guys. So just think about, like,
oh man, I just seen like these guys making money
and our dudes that look like me that came from
situations like me.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
We are here eating to now like damn.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So let's say if he even if he were to
get out of it, his images is smashed. So it's like, damn, man,
you could do all this good and do one thing
and people never feel the same, like you know what
I'm saying, Like they'll never look at you the same.
So that's the part that gonna hurt the culture.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
To me, I think it's the hold on before I
say that, Why do you think it hurt the culture though?
Because he's because.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Part about culture, like like, no, there's very few people
that did what Puff did for hip hop and like
the culture, like like, very few people have done what
jay Z has done. How many rappers you know, you
know a lot of rappers, but you don't know a
lot of rappers that be came billionaires. You don't know
a lot of rappers that came out the street that
you've seen on the block go from being on a
(27:06):
block to being on a TV show with you from
that to being uh doing world tours to becoming a
mogul like that. That's that's a crazy ride.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like y is hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the legacy of what you've created.
You know, I think about your kids, like I'm thinking
that I have children, So I think about his children
like that's their dad, Like you know there they they
don't want nothing to happen to their dad, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like what what do you do?
Like how do you take care of your kids? If
you're in a bad situation like that? Like, like what
(27:40):
do you do? Are they trying to take all your money?
You have to stash your money all the way, you
know what I mean? You got you got a family.
He's got like a beautiful family. So now and then
the trib about to start, you're gonna be you go,
are they gonna televise it?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It will be it says that you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Are they gonna televise the open bar?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Not?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Open bar is crazy? It's first come, first served.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah at the trial. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Recording is prohibited, what is it?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Broadcasting and recording is prohibited, but it is first come,
for served for me.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So you can sit in there.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, you can sit it go in.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Oh my god, I'm going because.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
To your point is, first of all, I just.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Think it's how you get the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You're just gonna get up. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I didn't think of it like that was just like
what maybe they invited you because you're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
This and they want Oh no, they did invite me.
I emailed them.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You say, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, but I but I forget. Oh. To your point, though,
the reason why I want to go is because yes,
I want to have like first hand account for the show.
But also to this is something that's happening that I
think for years to come people are going to look
back at like, oh wow, that really happened. So the
account is this is like the.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
O J Trial for hip hop for real, like like
like this is like this is going to be like
the o J Trial was in the nineties for hip hop.
Because one of hip hop's biggest pioneers is on trial, Like, Yo,
people gonna be watching it. Watch what I'm telling you.
It's gonna be all over in anything they say in court.
Boom boom boom the charges people that can you know
(29:15):
how many people that's probably gonna testify that we don't
know that's gonna pop up that we know you'd be like,
you're gonna be like yo, snap blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And some of the testimony gonna be funny. It's gonna
be horrible, but it's gonna be funny. And you know,
you know some of it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Ah, it's gonna be a field day for comedians.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I got a real question for you. How you been
around all the time, did all this stuff, but you
ain't never been to a Diddy party.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I didn't get invited like that. I missed it, but
I'm happy. God is good. Wony do it do it?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You ain't got to go to everything, but you was like, look,
I was right there though you were.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I was not today you were, And that was like
the iconic like when they were partying here in New York.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I remember that at Hamptons and all this. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep,
I remember all that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Did you ever have to fight to get hip hop
on MTV back then?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, man, Charlotmagne, come on, let's you You know what
we did, Okay, So listen, this is how how it was.
So when I came on MTV, it was mostly rock.
There was there was they was tip to one with
hip hop. But we're gonna play a little bit. We're
gonna play a little bit over here with Yo. We
got Yo MTV raps th those guys ed Andre are
doing a great job. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I wasn't even on the channel yet.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So now we're getting this, this hybrid show that's going
to show you that hip hop is crossing over a
little bit. We're not only gonna do nas, but we're
gonna do Salt and Pepper. We're gonna do l L.
We're gonna do Leaders in the New School. We're gonna
do uh Domino, and we're gonna do Coolio, and we're
gonna do this young dude named Snoop. So now you're
(30:58):
getting all these new artists. You got ice Cube, now
you got this, you got that. So now the plate
got bigger. So I just happened to be the god
delivering the plate to the people, like, Yo, we got this,
we got this, we got this. Oh my god, we
got this girl from Detroit named Boss. Nobody mentions her Boss.
Boss was a young artist came up just like the Brat,
(31:22):
like Brad was the first platinum female artist, girl to
go platinum. Like people don't talk about that no more.
She was the first artist to go platinum female, not
not like it was the Brat. Right, So I'm just
because I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Feel like I'm bringing you that, but I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So so my point being is, I just think it
was really really a blessing for me at that time,
just to be in the right place at the right time,
because I love the music and I love us, you know,
saying I wanted you if you was a new artist.
I'm like, I'm trying to get you on, like, yo,
you gotta come on here, make sure you get fix
her hair, make sure she looks like, okay, cool, cool cool, No, No,
(32:10):
but what I'm saying, y'all, y'all, y'all can figure this
out so real quick.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Anything going on Turkey.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Drive, I already do what and you to see how
you ain't been.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Turkeys on the ground. They just forget this.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Many people go do nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He gave me a turkey.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What was the biggest thing that MTV passed up on
that you were like? And they was like, nah, were good,
And then later like now you're looking back, like man,
that was the iconic moment we could add.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I can't remember that. I can remember what they almost
blew on. There's a couple of things that that happened
like this. One I remember very very vividly was H Town.
So H Town was on Luke Records, right, so you
got the group, the group knocking the Boost. So I
was in like in the South, I was doing the
(33:09):
show or something. I heard knocking the boost. I said,
oh my god, what is that. I go back to MTV.
I'm like, listen this Duesda down the goddamn Tuscaloosa got
this song that's fire in. Everybody going crazy. I said,
we gotta get this on MTV. Oh my god, what
(33:31):
who is it? What is it?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
H Town? Look records, Oh my god, we can't touch it.
Look looks because at this time Luke is like, you know,
he is the Hugh Hefner of hip hop, and they
doing pop up. They rugged, They wow, they wow, but
they but he got an R and B group, that's
not they a sexy R and B. I go in there.
(33:55):
I showed him the tape. I said, Yo, this is
that and the other blah blah blah. They're like, oh
my god, look the billboard. Let's see what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Is it doing?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Is it a heat seeker? What is it doing on
the charts. I was like, it don't matter what the
charts is. I'm telling you this song right here is crazy.
We get the video, they still on it, we put
it on the air. Oh my god, your your you know,
(34:23):
you know music. I've been telling you. You see, that's
the thing. When you live in the tower, you not
on the on the ground. You don't know the people, right.
So that's why I never stay in the tower to
this day. I never stay in the tower because you
don't know what the fuck going on.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Did you ever get a chance to turn the group
that I got the play?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That was a real risk song. Back then it was.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Boom boom. You know, it's a lot of grinding, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Interesting. I want to remember that we used to. I
wonder what the difference between knocking the boots and sex
you up. Boys. They white, You're right there.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You you know we nasty, they're pleasant.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
They have no problem with sex you up.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
We did, we did color me bad. I want to
sex you up? Yeah, so all them groups like now
you don't even see groups no more. We had color
me bad boys, the men shy jo toasy girls high five.
We had jade, uh who else? Give me another group,
(35:31):
Give me another group, give me damns so many man,
I love total though.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It was just can't you see what you do to me?
You said you regret coining the term booty guard.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I ain't regret it. I regret that I didn't trademark it.
I would have had a lot of money if I.
If I had trademark that right now, it'll be a
hologram sitting right here. That term.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
What made you come up with that? German?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was the way I was writing the jokes at
the time. I was her name the girl, Yes, I
don't remember. I didn't have the girl, didn't have a
name in the in the in the joke, it was basically, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Talking about the girl you actually slept with that inspired you.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Oh I don't remember. I tell you it was he
was he was of age.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I know she was at least twenty four, twenty five
that twenty four something like that. I try to keep
it eating. But yeah, so what he called came from
uh me just talking about a girl coming to your crib,
(36:41):
you know what I mean. I had just got a
brand new crib loft joint. You know, I'm getting that
money now and stuff. So I was just like, oh man,
it's crazy when you you wanted chicks to come by,
and I'm like, damn, they always bring a friend and
stuff like the blow, the blow, the vibe because like
the thing about it was booty call is basically like
you call this chick up and you like hoping she answers.
(37:03):
She answers, like, yo, what you're doing. She's like, oh
my god, I don't know. You're like, YO, want you to
come through for a second? You hoping? She she said yes,
She's like yeah, I could just slide through in about
an hour. You're like, oh, you are happy whatever. And
then you get in your house and get together. You
like trying to set it up. You're putting the candles
and stuff. You know, you're trying to make it fly.
And then she come to the door and she got
(37:23):
her friend. She's like, hey, ball, You're like, what is that?
And she like, how long y'all gonna because she brings
the ugly girlfriend the block case it ain't going right,
she gotta she got it out, y'all. You know how
y'all do team team defense? You ready to go?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
What they do that you'd be like, yo, if I
text you this word, call me because I can say
it's an emergency and I got a this.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
They do defense on us, say for it.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
You ain't and she ain't like you girl will come
over like we gotta go your baby, your baby is leaving,
or they'll do some some creek.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So you you just you didn't have no kids.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well it's a baby I just found so anyway, they
make them stuff. But that's team defense for y'all.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right, Yeah, I told you, damn.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Would you have known what the dude like if you
have trademarked it back then and it like once it
started blowing up in the movies going all that, would
you have known what to do with it?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Or you were just said I think I think I
would have just did like merchandise and stuff like that.
Because people still say booty call. They try to say
sneaky link, but it don't sneaky link. Don't sneaky links
sound like it's contagious.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's the same thing as a booty caller, I.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Know, but it don't it sound like you get a
rash from a sneaky link, right, sneaky link. Booty calls
sound like sound like I got some booty It was fun.
Sneaky links sound like.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
See now they're not even saying sneaky link. It's fine
ship now. So it's like you'd like you my little
fine ship. Yeah, like my little fine ship coming over,
a little fine ship.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I'm too old for that. I don't want fine shit.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I want what happened to wife?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, nah, it depends on, like you know, where
y'all are in the stages of things.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
But so if okay, right now you meet somebody.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Another great group next boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom. I wonder if she could feel my
dick getting hard right now? They was talking about getting
hard in the Dirty version of the Dirty.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I wonder if she could feel inside. I can't deny
he was talking about being hard in the club yes,
I can't hide it. Girl, you're dancing real clothes.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Y'all just made it. I'll package it when.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I turned into want to be my wife, So you
got to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Gotta start with the levels, my little fine ship. Then
it's like that's bad, and it's like that's wifey. Now
we let together. You got a booty call because you
go home and she there anyway, and she don't want
give you nothing anyway because she's been seeing you every day.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Donna get bad, Baby mama dead be that can happen.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
To not in my trajectory.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So now like on social media, baby Mama is BM right, Yeah,
I had to figure that out. I was like, that
was a cop. Yeah, I bought two of those. I
bought two of those? What and why end is your niggas?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You want stay away from those?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Definitely, that's that's that that the y ns mess up
the club.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, we used to call them killers, so they just ate.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
They the killers that be in the corner. As soon
as we see them, we leave.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Did you bring me up to speed?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I got you. You said you want to do another
how to be a player. Are you really working on
an updated version of that? What would that even look
like in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh, Shanny Sharp would not be in it all. You
are nobody, nobody that's messing up, got anything? You would
have to be a player to Nope, Nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Is it even worth being a player? Because Kendrick Lamar said,
and I agree with him on the new album g Next,
he says, you better off being with one woman. Everything
tricky right now?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, it's trick right now. I think for the comedy
of it, it would be really good for the culture.
I feel like it would be good because it's nostalgic.
Everybody's the right age now. Some Cats was like in
their teenage years, some Cats was in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think if we do it coming like if it
comes out next summer, I think it would be perfect
because we can talk about certain things, you know how
like technology is blowing casts up. You know what I'm saying,
leaving your phone open, girl, using your face while you sleep.
I feel like we should have alarms on our phones,
you know, like say saying you you sleep and your
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girls try to go.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Or you could just not have nothing in the phone.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
That's true too.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, always got something in our phone. You know, you
got stuff. Everybody got something their phone, that something. They
just be like, Nah, I didn't think nobody was gonna
see that your phone clean.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I mean, I could I do what I want to
do right now what I'm saying, But that's if your
phone was just left open and people went to swiping.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Would you be would you be good?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Look at the pause, she said, which phone?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Okay, Now what if you did then updated version of
the Brothers.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
That's supposed to be happening, and you had doctor.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Umar in it? Mad at you because how much you
like white women.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Doctor Umar would be. He would just show up on
my dates.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yes, he's a cousin. Come on, brother, every time you
something no reason, don't let the butnets.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Get your brother. Boy. If doctor Umar have a mixed baby,
I'm a pass out. It'll never have no I know,
I'm just joking. Umar. He's staying on business with his stuff. Well,
he hit it so hard. He better not even drink
white milk. Get me, he better have brown rice in
his house. I don't want to hear. He is over
(42:54):
the top. I love watching him just go off. He
just come through my phone every now and then I'll
be wiping on my phone. He'll be like, listen, brother,
I'm gonna tell you what you need. You need a sister,
keep this culture, keep the vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm like, oh, Lord, could we forgive doctor Umar if
he got with a white woman like we found.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Would we would go crazy? Black people, we go crazy.
I know it. You know we want you to fall,
you know, black?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
So what could he do to get everything back in
and get back in our good graces?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Turkey drive for black people. A turkey drive solve all
your problems. Just go Costco right now. If you know
you're gonna do some dumb shit, get you a bunch
of turkeys. As soon as that ship dropped, you just
start giving them out and people forgive you.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Bill Bella me his top billing toy is going on
right now. He's gonna be at the Improv Comedy Club
May third and the fourth.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, I'll be in Bray of California.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, Brad California, four wing in Indiana, mad Knife and
eleven from the Summer City Comedy Club. He'll be at
the Chicago Improv in Schanberg, Illinois, May sixteenth through the eighteenth,
the Miami in Provle in Miami, Florida, May thirtiefter the
June first, and the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Cleveland
June sixth to the eighth.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Let's go, man, Let's go, man. That's how we do it. Man.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Thank you all so much, man always.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Oh, thank you. I had another question. You were no,
I didn't know, so we didn't. We didn't get to
meet a lot. I only met Donnelle because he had
a lot going on. He had like did something in
the airport or something. I had to call him. I
ain't never had to call your teams. He's a good thing,
Thank god. I had a question for you. Wait are
you still you're so married?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Is your wife white? Oh? Okay? Because I was looking,
I thought that your wife.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Was well, she mixed.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
She got like okay, all right. Because with the doctor Umer,
I'm like laughing.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
No, no, doctor, no, no, my my wife.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's the reason why I like.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Jokes. Don't let him get you in the commy can't
get me.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
But you know, Wendy used to get me though she always.
But people don't realize that black people coming every shade.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like I saw that clip of Wendy last night when
I was getting ready, I didn't see.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That one because because because it was so funny, because
my life looks so like you don't know if she
wear hair this way is one thing where you like,
you don't know what the hell is going on, right,
And so one day it was Wendy. Wendy was like,
so Bell, you know this is the good the good
days of Wendy or whatever. Bell, So what is your wife?
You know? It's like she's black, half black, half white
(45:19):
one too. One side is the good times, the other
side is bratty much? How was I know?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I that's another one. Did you ever think Wendy would
be in the situation that she's currently in.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Man, I just hope she could get her life back
and they I don't know who signed her off on
this goofy thing, conservativeship. It's scary, Like it made me realize,
no matter how we successful we get, we should make
sure that nobody could just take over us.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You make sure your paperwork is in already, make sure
your paper you will never know. You get sick and
then have some weird person telling you your family can't
do nothing. You can't do nothing. Nah, take care of
your business and pray for Wendy.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
When people tell all these stories about like these iconic
interviews and hip hop stuff, why don't they mention you
more and stuff?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Because people I don't know why. Like I think what
happens is people forget you know what I mean, because
they always jump into the next You got to do
your history. That's why I can come to the Breakfast
club and have a good time because you guys know,
like there's certain things you know, and then I grew
up here, so it's certain things that people be like, Yo,
I remember, like I'm from Jersey, right, I'm from Jersey.
(46:28):
So the crazy thing, Like I remember the first time
I met Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was at Webster Hall
at a party. Right, this is when Mike was Mike.
Mike would knock somebody out and be in a club
like Mike would knock somebody out and literally being the
club with us. Right, the first time I met Mike Tyson, right,
and I didn't know Mike Tyson knew who I was yet,
(46:49):
and we.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
In the men's bathroom.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
I never forget this, and Mike comes in, I'm like
I can see him in the mirror. You know you
at the urine you can see. I said, oh shit,
this Mike. Oh shit. He was like, mana be funny, William,
w wh call me William, You're very funny.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Me.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Well, I loved your deaf comedy. Gam You're ready funny, Man,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Man. I was like, Yo, that's Mike motherfucking Dyce's man.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
I was like, damn right there.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But I told Mike, I said, Mike, you know you
the first hip hop champ.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Absolutely, like he was of the culture.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Like we literally could watch Mike and Madison Square Guarden
and see him at nails, like he would just be.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
One of the first hip hop mainstream stars too, right,
whether whether he knew that or not.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Mike left a Bingley Rose Royce in the middle of
the street somewhere. Wait, do you remember that it was
a Rose Rocet? Did he get love?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
If you know, if you read Bobby Brown's book that
him and Bobby says him and Mike used to do
that all the time. They'd be in different cities and
see somebody give them a bag of cash and just
body car and leave it. These guys were making so
much money back then. That it was unbelievable. They didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Do you see only I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
What kind of car was does Tyson leaving a Rose
Royce on the street in nineteen eighty eight?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, they were going to take the car from him,
so he let them and keep it. But after photographers
saw them and the captain saw the picture, they ordered
him to return. They give the car back to him.
No officers were suspended ten days without pay yep. And
then he offered lover of the Rose Royce.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I think MTV also hasn't done a good job of
a good job of like preserving the content that I
don't think bt but be honest with your bet either,
like that there's there's gold platinum classic material.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Between v They should be airing it like a TV
show because it's literally music history.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
That's how I'm getting ready for this. Yesterday watching some
of the you have old clips on YouTube, I got.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
So much stuff. Like I remember interviewing A Leah. I
mean I just just hit popped back in my head
and she was showing me that one two check up.
Everybody know what that was her first album she did.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
We sit there and watched that all day with you
narrating you fab five freddie Na rating, Yeah yeah, ed
loving that reading.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Onto that over Janet Jackson. The Janney Jackson interview, you
were like you was you had a crush on Oh
my god that interview for.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
You just didn't I didn't know what to do by myself.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
You know. If I knew Jermaine could pull it, I
would have pulled it, you know what I mean. He
just had more courage. He caught it straight. No, No,
I love JD. But JD pulled up I did. I mean,
you know what I'm saying. I was on tour, wed
and everything, and I was just like dag, you know.
I it was so interesting because we had such a
really cool friendship that I didn't know, like I didn't
(49:34):
want to mess it up, like crossing the line, you
know what I'm saying. So I never did. But the
thing about it was she used to flirt with me
on camera, like in front of everybody, and I was
like what, but I ain't. I would be like stuck
because I ain't know what to do with it, right,
you know what I'm saying. I'd be like, she ain't
really mean that they say if you can make a laugh.
You can crack auss, bro, I promise you. But you
gotta understand she was so big at the time. So
(49:56):
I'm thinking, like, you know, this is Janet Jackson. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
But then she'll be like Bill come by the house.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He never went by the house.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh yeah, I went by the house and what. But
it was a bunch of us. It was never like
I was never like along with her like that, Like
I would party with them and stuff because we was
on tour together and stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
But I should have pulled up though I ain't. No,
I should have came over there with a turkey, like, YO,
got you a turkey?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Janet, It's Bill Bellamy. Man. Where can they follow you? Bill?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Follow me at Bill Bellamie on Instagram, I'm on the TikTok,
I'm on Facebook wherever it is. Subscribe to your podcast,
subscribe to our top billing. We love y'all man peace.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
It's the Breakfast Club, Bill Bellamy, Wake that ass up
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