June 26, 2025 • 17 mins
Loren takes a deep dive into the latest updates on Diddy's case, shutting down rumors that charges have been dropped. After a long day in court, Lauren breaks down the real story behind the prosecution’s move to “streamline” their case and what that really means. With behind the scenes insights and expert-level clarity, she unpacks the legal chess match playing out in the courtroom. If you're trying to make sense of the headlines, this episode gives you all the facts
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is the
Latest with Laura Le Rosa, where we get into your
daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news exclusives,
and all those conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now a quick behind the scenes of the grind checking.
I am tired, Okay, it is it's late. I got out.
We got out of court so late today. Court began
at two pm. It was late at least three times
a day I left court. The sun was going down
when I left court. That is the latest I have
ever left court since this trout started. And then came
(00:46):
right to film the podcast so I could get you
guys the info. So thank y'all for tuning on in.
I know it is am when you listen to this,
so listen forgive me if I'm giving girl, you've been
working all day energy because the girl has been going
since three already this morning. But hey, that's the grind,
that's how it go. So let's get on into the
(01:07):
latest now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Because you knew your girl, I love to take y'all
a court.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, so we are going to have a conversation about
what did or did not happen when it comes to
Ditty's charges, because no, there were no charges dropped against
Sean Diddy Combs today now. Earlier this morning via the
Breakfast Club, I reported this.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So before we.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Get into our next story, I do want to say
it is seven fifty four am Eastern Standard time here
in New York and there are reports circulating that charges
have been dropped against Sean Diddy Combs. That is one
hundred percent false. At this time, no charges have been dropped.
I just want to clear that up because those those
reports are starting to circulate and I literally just made
a phone called a confirm that it is not correct.
Now adding more context and clarity to what I reported
(01:55):
this morning, because after this report, there were additional reports
that said the complete opposite, that the charges were officially
dropped and things of that nature. On the official PACER records,
there are two documents that were entered last night, and
these documents, the government was having a conversation about how
they plan to basically approach the rest of the ending
(02:17):
of the trial because after presenting their full case. They're
looking around and they're saying, okay, let's just cut our losses,
Like whatever is not going to stick best, whatever is
not strongest, that's not what we're focusing on right now.
If you've been listening to the podcast, if you've been
watching my content, whether it's here wherever you're hearing this
(02:38):
or seeing this, or it's over on the Breakfast Club,
I appreciate all of it. But if you've been keeping up,
you know that I had a conversation with you guys
about Diddy's attorneys deciding to act for a dismissal in court.
They said, look, if you're not going to drop the
case entirely, here are certain things that we think that
require more attention because these things should not be presented
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in front of a jury to have a conversation on,
because the government simply did not do what they needed
to do to prove be on a shadow of a
doubt that these things happen, and that is the government's
burden in this federal case that they've brought forth right,
and they're having a conversation, they're going through the kidnapping
that was one of the things they're going through. They
bring up the arson, they're going through, the forced labor,
(03:21):
they're going through. Like they break it down, some of
the things that we're talking about here are not charges.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
These are like.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Elements that make up the charge, right, so these are
like your plus ones to the party, but they're not
the main invite. For instance, arsin and kidnapping, these make
up the bigger charge. So they're talking about all these
things and they're like, look, if we're going to have
this conversation with the jury, and we're being fair, these
things were not proven. So we're asking that these things
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not be allowed, that these things be taken away, these
things be dismissed. The government later that night posted this letter,
and I'm going to read from one of the letters.
They're judge the government respectfully rights regarding it's requested adits
to the Court's.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Proposed jury instructions.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now, I was in court today for the battle because
baby it was given Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion in
there today when it came to jury instructions, and we
want to talk about that. But so they're basically saying, look,
before we sit down and even have a conversation about
what jury instruction looks like, we want to let you
know where we think we're going with this angle wise,
(04:23):
and when we enter in some of our objections and
our conversations, we want you to know why. So, they say,
the government understands the court's desire for streamlined instructions. The
government has suggested ways to streamline those instructions. Specifically, the
government has removed instructions from the charge relating to number
one attempted kidnapping under both California and New York law,
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number two attempted arson under California law, and number three
aiding and abetting sex trafficking. The government is no longer
planning to proceed on these theories. The government is no
longer planning to proceed on these theories. The government is
no longer planning.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
To perceive on these theories.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I said that three times because it is very important
for where we're about.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To go with explaining why.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
When I say no charges were dropped against Seawan Ditty Combs,
that is fact and not fiction. The government has also
attempted to simplify the language relating to Count one, a proposal,
as explained in the government's comment bubbles, that the government
hopes not only serves the purpose of streamlining the instructions,
but also will avoid any confusion as to the operative
(05:30):
agreement for count one. Now, listen, what the government is
saying here is like, look, we know these up here
are the charges, right, and within us having these charges,
here are certain things that we say happen to prove
that all of this went down. Right, So think about
it like this, Like when it comes to a rico,
there are multiple things that are alleged to make up
(05:52):
the actual RICO charge.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So for Diddy, you have the government alleging that he
kidnapped people. You have the government alleging that he committed arson,
you have the government alleging that he committed bribery, all
of these things. Now, after presenting their full case, the
government is saying, listen, judge, we know that our arguments
aren't the strongest when it comes to these these are theories, right,
(06:19):
Because Diddy's team yesterday talked about the fact that the
government leaned a lot of their charges on things that
could be inferred like these big ideas, these big thoughts.
That's what we talked about on the last episode of
The Latest with Lona Rosa.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So now the government is saying that we are confident
that this charge is a thing, because here's all the
here's the theory, here's the narrative, here's what You mix
this in applot, you stir it on up, and you
have Deanentre. Right after presenting their case, the government is like, look,
they don't say we're not the strongest here. They say
they want a streamline, like, let's focus on what we
(06:54):
know won't confuse the jury. We want to make it
very clear, very simple. We want the instructions to lean
in on that heavily. We want them to understand, here's
exactly what we're alleging. Here's exactly the evidence that support
that theory, that make it something that you know allegedly
actually happened, so that you're you're able to make your decision.
But that doesn't mean that the charge that all those
(07:17):
theories equal up to has been dropped. Now, could that happen?
Because that is what Diddy's team asked for. It could happen.
Has it happened?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And the reason even this morning when I when I
did this, when I mentioned this, I time stamped it
because if you guys haven't noticed, like everything with court
has been moving like even today. So today was a
charging conference. In the charging conference, the jury is not there.
It's the day off for the jury. But you have
both sides. You have the prosecution and you have the defense,
and you have the attorneys going through what the actual
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instruction will be given to like that is given to
the jury for every single count. It has to be
something that doesn't make you feel like the government is
telling you something was true or false. And it can't
be something that makes you feel like the defense is
telling you something it's true or false either. But it
can be something that like clarifies when it comes to
this specific allegation. They talked about are Kelly's case a
(08:16):
lot today, especially because they were trying to figure out
how the wording around the sex trafficking conversation would be.
Diddy's attorneys at a really, really good job today in court.
I will say that it's not a slam dunk either
way in my opinion. So I felt like when they
rested their case so fast, I was like, wait, did
I miss something? Why aren't they going harder? Like why
(08:37):
aren't they like, I don't know, just something I expected something.
Each attorney has like their things, so like Attorney Shapiro
she's the one who presented the acquittal. You have Teeny Garrigos,
who is a beast when it comes to evidence. You
have Mark Agnofilio, who kind of is like the glue
between them all. He's like one of the lead attorneys.
You have Brian Steele who goes crazy on cross examination.
(08:59):
Nicole Wes Morland as well goes crazy on cross examination.
You have Attorney Donaldson, who they've also used a ton
on cross examination as well. And they're in there and
they're having a conversation about the sexual acts, right. The
government was trying to argue and again this is them
trying to frame it where if they feel like they're
(09:20):
not strong on something, they're saying, hey, it's all about
the wording and how the jury is instructed to think
about this, which will in the end of this equal.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
A certain result.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So the government was asking for in the jury instruction
for it to be clarified that forced labor could be
sex right, and did They's attorneys are.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Like no, Like what no?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And they're like this makes no sense because the government
is like, well, I know, did They's attorneys tried to
make it seem like forced labor. It's like you know,
you're it's almost like an enslavement of sorts or you know,
you have no other t choice and things of this nature,
and it's not the physical act of sex. But then
the government brought in R. Kelly and one of R.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Kelly, the R.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Kelly case as a landmark case that they refer to,
and they're like, and the judges like, okay, was this
used this way in R.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kelly's case.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So the judge is like, no, I'm denying this because
the judge is saying, if we give the joy this instruction,
it makes them think that all sex is forced labor,
which isn't fair because technically it depends on the facts
of the case when you're having these conversations, right, So
that was a win for Ditty's team, But there were
other times where the judge denied things that Diddy's team
(10:38):
was asking for it, and it was a win for the prosecution.
But there was a big conversation around the sex trafficking
and when I tell you, Diddy's lawyer, Attorney Shapiro, she
was not backing down it. There was a young attorney
that was like kind of like assisting her. Oh my god.
They were eating it up. Okay, the back and forth
between attorneys is so easy because everything is based off
(11:02):
fact in case and they just be spitting spit and
spit and spitting. So the conversation around sex acts commercial
sex acts, what Diddy's team was making a point to
try and say was was like, look, when this case
was first presented, from the minute day that the government
did their opening statements, they've been presenting this sex trafficking
charge in these sexual commercial acts as completed acts, right, like, as.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They actually had sex.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Or had sexual interaction of some sort and they were
paid for it.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But Diddy's team is like, but now in the jury instruction,
they're trying to take a step back and say sexual
commercial commercial sexual acts do not have the actually mean
actually mean a completed act. And Diddy's attorney was like,
that is not fair. We've spent weeks in this courtroom
with this case being presented this way. She read some
of the opening statements to the judge which mentioned that
(11:58):
she talked about the night at the Intercontinental. They talked
about several different times when the government has presented these
commercial sexual acts as being defined as actual sexual intercourse
or sexual interaction complete it like a completed sexual act
of some sort. The wording that the government wants and
(12:19):
the jury instruction is is they want the jurors to
be instructed by the judge to understand that a sexual
act doesn't have to mean that it was completed. So
you didn't have to actually have sex, you didn't have
to actually do anything oral or finish either one of
them for this to be considered a commercial sexual act.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And the defense was not going.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Baby Diddy's attorneys immediately shot up and were like, that's
not true. The whole time they've been talking about that night,
they talked about it as if a freak off.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
This was a freak off. The judge is like, I.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't think that the government ever tried to imply one
way or the other that you know, uh, sexual a
commercial sexual act should not be talked about as something
that's only completed. Right, And there again did't seem a
specially back there, like that's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's not true, that's not true. So then did these
team stands up.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
This is one of the younger attorneys, and he says, look,
if we're going to have a conversation about this, the
real issue here is whether it's con consensual or not.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We're arguing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We're arguing, and we can send you some cases, we
can send you some actual transcript from what has been
actually said in this courtroom by the government. In the meantime,
we also have to look at the fact that, like
all of this is a conversation too about something being consensual,
and the way that this is worded right now in
the jury instruction, even if things are consensual in the beginning,
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they can start off consensual and then.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
End up not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And they're like, even if you want to talk about that, okay, fair,
And we're talking due process here.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We're talking due process.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
When it comes to the commercial sexual and we're talking
due process when it comes to the wording around the
sexual acts too, when it comes to us talking about
consensual and not consensual. And what I'm watching the prosecution
do is, you know, they covering all their bases, They
got in their eyes and crossing their te's and the
defense was arguing that even on the conversation about the
commercial sexual acts, the government is from what Diddy's team
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is alleging and how they're feeling, It's like, okay, y'all
sitting over there and y'all cheers across from us. Judge
in the middle like Andy Cohen and y'all are trying
to make sure that no matter what, y'all get a
home run. You cannot make this so vague where everything counts.
It just can't go that way. So let's narrow this down.
Let's really define what this means. Because if we define
with this means based off what you guys have been talking.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
About, you haven't proven that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You haven't been able to prove that these certain things
have happened. And that's why y'all are backing like backing away.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Again. That backing away.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The prosecutors and their letter said, hey, look, we want
to streamline. Basically, we want your ay to focus, okay,
focus on this right over here because it's over here, Uh,
we ain't too sure about.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And that is what that letter was. That is what
the dropping was.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was the dropping or backing away from certain theories
that were used to make up a crime. We gonna
lean on what we're gonna lean on first, which is honestly,
like to be completely honest with you guys, most of
the time when you do something like this, like a
rico like this or just charges In general, most prosecutors'
offices want to really take their time before indictments come
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down or charges drop because they.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Don't want to get in front of a jury or.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
A judge and can't really provide hard, tangible, concrete evidence
that these things are happening and.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Not just big theories. So I don't know. I was
confused about that.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But the whole time I've been confused, and I'm wondering
if it's because the actual prosecutor who charged or who indicted,
did he that changed when the trial actually started.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't know what it's been. I wouldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'm very interested to see if anything is acquitted whatsoever.
I don't think that Diddy is going to walk scott
free from this. There will be some charges that he
will not walk away from, and that he will whatever
that consequence may be. He will have to do whatever
that consequence is. I don't think that he's going one
hundred percent walk Scott free. What that looks like, we
will honestly find out within the next week. They did
(16:24):
not directly address at all. What will be dropped won't
be dropped? Is the acquittal happening, dismissal of this. They
didn't get to that at all today. But to clarify,
there have been no charges dropped against Sean Diddy Combe
as of June twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, at nine
or five pm from my last update. At the end
(16:47):
of the day, there's always a lot to talk about,
and I know we've been talking about a lot of Diddy. Okay,
we've been going and we've been really going into depth
on Sean Diddy Comb's. Diddy has been in our homes,
on our TVs, on our radios, our phones, all of
that for a very very long time. So I think
that's why, you know, people are so invested in this
(17:07):
and I get it. Doing my best to bring y'all
the best information first and foremost, and you know, clarity
on some things.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That is my word of today. Child. I had a
day to day.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
When I did that report, but all the other reports
says something else. But that's a part of the game.
When you're good at what you do, you good at
what you do. When your sourcers are valid, there are that.
So I appreciate y'all for being right here with me,
because y'all could be anywhere else. At the end of
the day talking to anybody about these things, because there
is always a lot to talk about. But you guys
are right here with me, Low Riders, and I appreciate
(17:37):
y'all for that. I will catch you guys in my
next episode.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is the
Latest with Laura Le Rosa, where we get into your
daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news exclusives,
and all those conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now a quick behind the scenes of the grind checking.
I am tired, Okay, it is it's late. I got out.
We got out of court so late today. Court began
at two pm. It was late at least three times
a day I left court. The sun was going down
when I left court. That is the latest I have
ever left court since this trout started. And then came
(00:46):
right to film the podcast so I could get you
guys the info. So thank y'all for tuning on in.
I know it is am when you listen to this,
so listen forgive me if I'm giving girl, you've been
working all day energy because the girl has been going
since three already this morning. But hey, that's the grind,
that's how it go. So let's get on into the
(01:07):
latest now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Because you knew your girl, I love to take y'all
a court.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, so we are going to have a conversation about
what did or did not happen when it comes to
Ditty's charges, because no, there were no charges dropped against
Sean Diddy Combs today now. Earlier this morning via the
Breakfast Club, I reported this.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So before we.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Get into our next story, I do want to say
it is seven fifty four am Eastern Standard time here
in New York and there are reports circulating that charges
have been dropped against Sean Diddy Combs. That is one
hundred percent false. At this time, no charges have been dropped.
I just want to clear that up because those those
reports are starting to circulate and I literally just made
a phone called a confirm that it is not correct.
Now adding more context and clarity to what I reported
(01:55):
this morning, because after this report, there were additional reports
that said the complete opposite, that the charges were officially
dropped and things of that nature. On the official PACER records,
there are two documents that were entered last night, and
these documents, the government was having a conversation about how
they plan to basically approach the rest of the ending
(02:17):
of the trial because after presenting their full case. They're
looking around and they're saying, okay, let's just cut our losses,
Like whatever is not going to stick best, whatever is
not strongest, that's not what we're focusing on right now.
If you've been listening to the podcast, if you've been
watching my content, whether it's here wherever you're hearing this
(02:38):
or seeing this, or it's over on the Breakfast Club,
I appreciate all of it. But if you've been keeping up,
you know that I had a conversation with you guys
about Diddy's attorneys deciding to act for a dismissal in court.
They said, look, if you're not going to drop the
case entirely, here are certain things that we think that
require more attention because these things should not be presented
(03:01):
in front of a jury to have a conversation on,
because the government simply did not do what they needed
to do to prove be on a shadow of a
doubt that these things happen, and that is the government's
burden in this federal case that they've brought forth right,
and they're having a conversation, they're going through the kidnapping
that was one of the things they're going through. They
bring up the arson, they're going through, the forced labor,
(03:21):
they're going through. Like they break it down, some of
the things that we're talking about here are not charges.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
These are like.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Elements that make up the charge, right, so these are
like your plus ones to the party, but they're not
the main invite. For instance, arsin and kidnapping, these make
up the bigger charge. So they're talking about all these
things and they're like, look, if we're going to have
this conversation with the jury, and we're being fair, these
things were not proven. So we're asking that these things
(03:47):
not be allowed, that these things be taken away, these
things be dismissed. The government later that night posted this letter,
and I'm going to read from one of the letters.
They're judge the government respectfully rights regarding it's requested adits
to the Court's.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Proposed jury instructions.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now, I was in court today for the battle because
baby it was given Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion in
there today when it came to jury instructions, and we
want to talk about that. But so they're basically saying, look,
before we sit down and even have a conversation about
what jury instruction looks like, we want to let you
know where we think we're going with this angle wise,
(04:23):
and when we enter in some of our objections and
our conversations, we want you to know why. So, they say,
the government understands the court's desire for streamlined instructions. The
government has suggested ways to streamline those instructions. Specifically, the
government has removed instructions from the charge relating to number
one attempted kidnapping under both California and New York law,
(04:46):
number two attempted arson under California law, and number three
aiding and abetting sex trafficking. The government is no longer
planning to proceed on these theories. The government is no
longer planning to proceed on these theories. The government is
no longer planning.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
To perceive on these theories.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I said that three times because it is very important
for where we're about.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To go with explaining why.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
When I say no charges were dropped against Seawan Ditty Combs,
that is fact and not fiction. The government has also
attempted to simplify the language relating to Count one, a proposal,
as explained in the government's comment bubbles, that the government
hopes not only serves the purpose of streamlining the instructions,
but also will avoid any confusion as to the operative
(05:30):
agreement for count one. Now, listen, what the government is
saying here is like, look, we know these up here
are the charges, right, and within us having these charges,
here are certain things that we say happen to prove
that all of this went down. Right, So think about
it like this, Like when it comes to a rico,
there are multiple things that are alleged to make up
(05:52):
the actual RICO charge.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So for Diddy, you have the government alleging that he
kidnapped people. You have the government alleging that he committed arson,
you have the government alleging that he committed bribery, all
of these things. Now, after presenting their full case, the
government is saying, listen, judge, we know that our arguments
aren't the strongest when it comes to these these are theories, right,
(06:19):
Because Diddy's team yesterday talked about the fact that the
government leaned a lot of their charges on things that
could be inferred like these big ideas, these big thoughts.
That's what we talked about on the last episode of
The Latest with Lona Rosa.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So now the government is saying that we are confident
that this charge is a thing, because here's all the
here's the theory, here's the narrative, here's what You mix
this in applot, you stir it on up, and you
have Deanentre. Right after presenting their case, the government is like, look,
they don't say we're not the strongest here. They say
they want a streamline, like, let's focus on what we
(06:54):
know won't confuse the jury. We want to make it
very clear, very simple. We want the instructions to lean
in on that heavily. We want them to understand, here's
exactly what we're alleging. Here's exactly the evidence that support
that theory, that make it something that you know allegedly
actually happened, so that you're you're able to make your decision.
But that doesn't mean that the charge that all those
(07:17):
theories equal up to has been dropped. Now, could that happen?
Because that is what Diddy's team asked for. It could happen.
Has it happened?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
And the reason even this morning when I when I
did this, when I mentioned this, I time stamped it
because if you guys haven't noticed, like everything with court
has been moving like even today. So today was a
charging conference. In the charging conference, the jury is not there.
It's the day off for the jury. But you have
both sides. You have the prosecution and you have the defense,
and you have the attorneys going through what the actual
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instruction will be given to like that is given to
the jury for every single count. It has to be
something that doesn't make you feel like the government is
telling you something was true or false. And it can't
be something that makes you feel like the defense is
telling you something it's true or false either. But it
can be something that like clarifies when it comes to
this specific allegation. They talked about are Kelly's case a
(08:16):
lot today, especially because they were trying to figure out
how the wording around the sex trafficking conversation would be.
Diddy's attorneys at a really, really good job today in court.
I will say that it's not a slam dunk either
way in my opinion. So I felt like when they
rested their case so fast, I was like, wait, did
I miss something? Why aren't they going harder? Like why
(08:37):
aren't they like, I don't know, just something I expected something.
Each attorney has like their things, so like Attorney Shapiro
she's the one who presented the acquittal. You have Teeny Garrigos,
who is a beast when it comes to evidence. You
have Mark Agnofilio, who kind of is like the glue
between them all. He's like one of the lead attorneys.
You have Brian Steele who goes crazy on cross examination.
(08:59):
Nicole Wes Morland as well goes crazy on cross examination.
You have Attorney Donaldson, who they've also used a ton
on cross examination as well. And they're in there and
they're having a conversation about the sexual acts, right. The
government was trying to argue and again this is them
trying to frame it where if they feel like they're
(09:20):
not strong on something, they're saying, hey, it's all about
the wording and how the jury is instructed to think
about this, which will in the end of this equal.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
A certain result.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So the government was asking for in the jury instruction
for it to be clarified that forced labor could be
sex right, and did They's attorneys are.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Like no, Like what no?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And they're like this makes no sense because the government
is like, well, I know, did They's attorneys tried to
make it seem like forced labor. It's like you know,
you're it's almost like an enslavement of sorts or you know,
you have no other t choice and things of this nature,
and it's not the physical act of sex. But then
the government brought in R. Kelly and one of R.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Kelly, the R.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Kelly case as a landmark case that they refer to,
and they're like, and the judges like, okay, was this
used this way in R.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kelly's case.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So the judge is like, no, I'm denying this because
the judge is saying, if we give the joy this instruction,
it makes them think that all sex is forced labor,
which isn't fair because technically it depends on the facts
of the case when you're having these conversations, right, So
that was a win for Ditty's team, But there were
other times where the judge denied things that Diddy's team
(10:38):
was asking for it, and it was a win for the prosecution.
But there was a big conversation around the sex trafficking
and when I tell you, Diddy's lawyer, Attorney Shapiro, she
was not backing down it. There was a young attorney
that was like kind of like assisting her. Oh my god.
They were eating it up. Okay, the back and forth
between attorneys is so easy because everything is based off
(11:02):
fact in case and they just be spitting spit and
spit and spitting. So the conversation around sex acts commercial
sex acts, what Diddy's team was making a point to
try and say was was like, look, when this case
was first presented, from the minute day that the government
did their opening statements, they've been presenting this sex trafficking
charge in these sexual commercial acts as completed acts, right, like, as.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They actually had sex.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Or had sexual interaction of some sort and they were
paid for it.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But Diddy's team is like, but now in the jury instruction,
they're trying to take a step back and say sexual
commercial commercial sexual acts do not have the actually mean
actually mean a completed act. And Diddy's attorney was like,
that is not fair. We've spent weeks in this courtroom
with this case being presented this way. She read some
of the opening statements to the judge which mentioned that
(11:58):
she talked about the night at the Intercontinental. They talked
about several different times when the government has presented these
commercial sexual acts as being defined as actual sexual intercourse
or sexual interaction complete it like a completed sexual act
of some sort. The wording that the government wants and
(12:19):
the jury instruction is is they want the jurors to
be instructed by the judge to understand that a sexual
act doesn't have to mean that it was completed. So
you didn't have to actually have sex, you didn't have
to actually do anything oral or finish either one of
them for this to be considered a commercial sexual act.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And the defense was not going.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Baby Diddy's attorneys immediately shot up and were like, that's
not true. The whole time they've been talking about that night,
they talked about it as if a freak off.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
This was a freak off. The judge is like, I.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't think that the government ever tried to imply one
way or the other that you know, uh, sexual a
commercial sexual act should not be talked about as something
that's only completed. Right, And there again did't seem a
specially back there, like that's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's not true, that's not true. So then did these
team stands up.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
This is one of the younger attorneys, and he says, look,
if we're going to have a conversation about this, the
real issue here is whether it's con consensual or not.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We're arguing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We're arguing, and we can send you some cases, we
can send you some actual transcript from what has been
actually said in this courtroom by the government. In the meantime,
we also have to look at the fact that, like
all of this is a conversation too about something being consensual,
and the way that this is worded right now in
the jury instruction, even if things are consensual in the beginning,
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they can start off consensual and then.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
End up not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And they're like, even if you want to talk about that, okay, fair,
And we're talking due process here.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We're talking due process.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
When it comes to the commercial sexual and we're talking
due process when it comes to the wording around the
sexual acts too, when it comes to us talking about
consensual and not consensual. And what I'm watching the prosecution
do is, you know, they covering all their bases, They
got in their eyes and crossing their te's and the
defense was arguing that even on the conversation about the
commercial sexual acts, the government is from what Diddy's team
(14:21):
is alleging and how they're feeling, It's like, okay, y'all
sitting over there and y'all cheers across from us. Judge
in the middle like Andy Cohen and y'all are trying
to make sure that no matter what, y'all get a
home run. You cannot make this so vague where everything counts.
It just can't go that way. So let's narrow this down.
Let's really define what this means. Because if we define
with this means based off what you guys have been talking.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
About, you haven't proven that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You haven't been able to prove that these certain things
have happened. And that's why y'all are backing like backing away.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Again. That backing away.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The prosecutors and their letter said, hey, look, we want
to streamline. Basically, we want your ay to focus, okay,
focus on this right over here because it's over here, Uh,
we ain't too sure about.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And that is what that letter was. That is what
the dropping was.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was the dropping or backing away from certain theories
that were used to make up a crime. We gonna
lean on what we're gonna lean on first, which is honestly,
like to be completely honest with you guys, most of
the time when you do something like this, like a
rico like this or just charges In general, most prosecutors'
offices want to really take their time before indictments come
(15:36):
down or charges drop because they.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Don't want to get in front of a jury or.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
A judge and can't really provide hard, tangible, concrete evidence
that these things are happening and.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Not just big theories. So I don't know. I was
confused about that.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But the whole time I've been confused, and I'm wondering
if it's because the actual prosecutor who charged or who indicted,
did he that changed when the trial actually started.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't know what it's been. I wouldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'm very interested to see if anything is acquitted whatsoever.
I don't think that Diddy is going to walk scott
free from this. There will be some charges that he
will not walk away from, and that he will whatever
that consequence may be. He will have to do whatever
that consequence is. I don't think that he's going one
hundred percent walk Scott free. What that looks like, we
will honestly find out within the next week. They did
(16:24):
not directly address at all. What will be dropped won't
be dropped? Is the acquittal happening, dismissal of this. They
didn't get to that at all today. But to clarify,
there have been no charges dropped against Sean Diddy Combe
as of June twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, at nine
or five pm from my last update. At the end
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of the day, there's always a lot to talk about,
and I know we've been talking about a lot of Diddy. Okay,
we've been going and we've been really going into depth
on Sean Diddy Comb's. Diddy has been in our homes,
on our TVs, on our radios, our phones, all of
that for a very very long time. So I think
that's why, you know, people are so invested in this
(17:07):
and I get it. Doing my best to bring y'all
the best information first and foremost, and you know, clarity
on some things.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That is my word of today. Child. I had a
day to day.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
When I did that report, but all the other reports
says something else. But that's a part of the game.
When you're good at what you do, you good at
what you do. When your sourcers are valid, there are that.
So I appreciate y'all for being right here with me,
because y'all could be anywhere else. At the end of
the day talking to anybody about these things, because there
is always a lot to talk about. But you guys
are right here with me, Low Riders, and I appreciate
(17:37):
y'all for that. I will catch you guys in my
next episode.
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