Mo’Nique goes on TS Madison and calls out Oprah, Tyler Perry, Tiffany Haddish and also comes to terms with her ego getting in the way of her relationship with her son. Additionally, Tiffany Haddish is in fact, not co-parenting with Jason Lee.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right Lauren, Hey, y'all,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura de Rosa and this is the latest with
Lauren de Rosa. Now, this is your Deli dig on
all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the
conversations that shake the room. Baby. Now today we are
getting on into some things. We're gonna get right on
into the latest because we got a lot to talk about.
(00:31):
We have some updates. So Tiffany Hattish and Jason Lee,
Hollywood Unlocked founder, are not having a baby. I rushed
to get that out into say that because I've been
trying to figure this out for It's been weeks. So
let me just back on up right. August fourth, Tiffany
(00:53):
Hattish and Jason Lee posted these photos to their Instagram.
It was a photo of Tiffany and Jason and a
baby in Tiffany Hattish's hand, and of course all of
us and Jason's there, They're smiling, Jason's holding a baby shouler.
So we're all looking like, what is this giving right now?
(01:15):
Like what is happening? Like did y'all go adopt a
kid or have a Sarahgate have a kid. Not the
only reason to be fair because Jason Lee is a
very openly gay man, so for those who don't know
him to be fair. The only reason why we even
assume this is because a little minute ago, Jason Lee
(01:35):
and Tiffany Hattish were having a conversation and they were
talking about Tiffany Hattish wanting to have a baby and
having the baby with Jason Lee. Let's take a listen
to that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You said you would give me a kid. Are you
serious about that?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I wanted to talk to you about the cost of
because I said I wanted to do it the old
fashion where you said no, So I want to talk
to you about.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The cost so long, now we gotta do wait, I
don't like that word.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do the pound.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, wait, So here's the deals. And I had an
agreement like back when I was nineteen, that we were
vacating that world, and since then we've like, it's sort
of like my my mother, we just packed up and left.
It never came back, right, So that wasn't funny, right
it is? So, hey, mom, but no, seriously, Yeah, after
(02:27):
I walked away from Vagina, I just like it was
like that STD's pain, sorrows, shooting, violent drugs, Like I
don't want to be around none of that anymore. Yeah,
but I still want a kid now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Ya could tell he's openly gave men, right, very openly
gave men. Okay, a nothing swinging back over this way
at all about Jason Lee. So when people when when
the picture was posted, naturally people thought like, Okay, they
did it. They either got a surrogate, they either adopted,
(02:59):
because it's no way and I mean not a way
in the devil's hell that Jason Lee put anything of
his inside of her to make a baby. Also, too,
we've been seeing Tiffany Hattish and she hasn't been pregnant,
so that also was a thing. But yes, so this
photo had everybody going. When I tell y'all, I literally
(03:22):
had people texting me like Laura, what's up? And I'm like,
what do you mean? Like everything cool? What do you
mean it's Jason Lee pregnant? And I'm like, it's Jason
Lee pregnant? You mean it's Tiffany Hattish? Did Tiffany Hattish
have a baby? By Jason Lee. Yeah, what's going on?
(03:43):
And then also too, we never talked about it, so
I didn't talk about it here on the Latest with
Lona Rosa. We didn't talk about it on the breakfast
club we were going to one day, but I think
we just didn't get to it. I text Jason when
the photo dropped and I'm like, Yo, what's up, what's
going on here? And I sent the photo. All he
did was send me back a bottle and I'm like,
(04:08):
what does that mean? He didn't say anything else. And
then I was leaving Atlanta. I went and spoke at
the Podcast Summer in Atlanta. Shout out to the Podcast
Summer in Dshans for bringing me down. I had an
amazing time. It was so up put together, but I
was there. Jason Lee also spoke there as well too.
And when we were leaving flying back to New York,
(04:29):
Jason Lee was on my flight. We actually were like
in the same row, so we just sat next to
each other and I was asking him then, I'm like,
what's going on. You're gonna tell me what's up or not?
And He's like, I don't talk about kids. I don't
discuss kids. Child Jason Lee and Tiffany Hattters was on
Jimmy Kimmel. They talked about kids and they are not
(04:50):
having one, nor do they have one right now that
we know of. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What did you think of this whole baby Fiasca.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The whole world has lost their mind on this beautiful baby.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We just took a picture with a baby and then
and then that went crazy. So now we got a
god baby, we do. Yeah, I went ahead and made
it our god baby.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, great? You and daddy, oh thank you. This is
the first time both of us being foster former foster
kids that were actually selecting to choose a baby that
wasn't ours. But that's why adoption is important.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, adoption is important. It was very important, Jason. The
offer still is on the table if you want to
make a real baby together. Okay, we'll have a meet
our baby. Yeah. You know, I'm traditional.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I'm still gay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Y'all not me in the whole word world thought they
might have adopted a kid and it had us going, too, right,
They really had us going. I do like the plug
of you know, the whole like adoption thing, and you know,
plugging adopting kids. My mom was a foster mom for
about like ten or eleven years out of my life.
So my God, I don't call them my foster brothers
(06:06):
and sisters. I call them my god brothers and my
god sisters, or just my sisters and my brothers. Depends
on who I'm talking to. But some of them are
listening to the podcast, hey, y'all. But a lot of
them spent anywhere from like shoot three to four to
maybe ten years with us, with me and my brother
growing up in the same household as us, so and
my mom always did everything she could to try and
(06:29):
keep families together. So like if a foster kid came
to our house and she found out that you had
like a brother and a sister somewhere, she would request
from the social workers that we find you know your
other siblings and they get brought to our house. Things
like that. Just because my mom used to always talk
to me about just everything that children in the system
were going through. And Jason Lee and Tiphany Hattish were
(06:50):
both adopted, they talked a bit about that here and yeah,
so just you know, them being able to use the moment,
you know, in the attention to talk about the importance
of adopting kids, and you know, raising foster children, and
you know all those things. Don't little spent on that.
But Jason Lee, Tiffany Hattish, y'all have me going, Okay,
(07:13):
I really thought I was sitting next to a faba.
We'll be sitting on that plane now. In other news,
up next on the latest TS Madison. So, TS Madison
sat down on her podcast, Outlaws with TS Madison with
Monique and Monique and TS Madison talked about a lot men.
(07:33):
They talked about a lot. I enjoyed the conversation from
start to finish. It was about an hour long conversation.
They got into the Monique and Tyler Perry things and
we talked about that a bit on the Breakfast Club
this morning, but they also got into Monique and everything
that was happening with Monique's son and an update there
where they are. Now, let's take a lesson to Monique.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, people shout as loud when they find out we're healing.
No people do the shows about Monique and her son
when they found out we've been talking, Will people now
shout and say, oh my god? Because we thrive on
what we believe to be negative. When it comes to
my son, that's mine. Yep, that is mine all day long.
(08:16):
That is my child. So whatever we go through, that's mine,
that's mine. What I will say is I let my
ego get in the way. I will say that publicly.
And I had to take that down because I had
to say, Monique, that is yours baby. He's thirty four
years old, you're fifty seven. You know, better take it down.
(08:40):
So for all the ones asking you about me and
my son, we're healing and I'm grateful and I prayed
for that healing. Please bring them back to me.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh now, this was big for me to hear because
Monique is not a person to I wouldn't say Monique
is not a person to a man when she's wrong,
I would not say that. But to hear her say
it was my ego. I think it's hard for anybody,
whether you're Monique or not, to admit when you may
(09:14):
have added to the problem or you were a part
of the problem. But to hear her say what she said,
I'm like, man, because a lot of people try and
make it seem like Monique is this person who just
loves a problem and loves the drama. Because when she
does speak about things she's been through, whether it's been
with Oprah, and she talked about that, Let's take a listen, Oprah.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I'm not going anywhere until y'all take accountability and fix it.
Y'all messed with my livelihood, which messes with my family.
Never would I do that to anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Or the Tyler Perry incident. She talked about that, Let's
take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
One of the biggest entertainers in the world is Tyler Perry,
and Tyler Perry told a lie on me, and that
lie costs me twelve years of my career twelve And
I know that you work for that man. But as
I told you before, and I'm gonna say it again,
until he fixes it, I will not stop because that's
how the monster is created. We're too afraid, what too scared,
(10:14):
We're too fearful that you're gonna take something from me.
So I'm just not gonna say anything. Harvey Weinstein is
where he's in jail now. That's been going on for decades,
but everybody said let it go, don't say nothing, which
allowed that man to do more damage to women over
the decades. I as long as I can help it.
I'm saying, Tyler, her, you will not do this to
(10:35):
another as long as I can help it, because you
told a lie and you feel like you have the
God complex. So I ain't gotta fix it. Either you'll
fix it in life or you'll be dealt with in death.
It's totally up to you. But I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Or anything dealer with her. Me and her me and
her me and her man. Do not play with her daddy. Okay,
her daddy that I'm referring to is her who she's
been married to for years and years and years at
this point. But I found out on this podcast that
Monique and her husband were actually friends. There were roommates. First,
crazy story, let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
If you knock on my door, I'm gonna let you in.
She knocked on my door because she did an interview,
and we're talking about our sister Tiffany had it. She
did an interview with GQ magazine, and some kind of way,
the conversation got to Monique and she said, I don't
have that husband.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Of hers like she got.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Wait a minute, sister, you rung the bell, you said
ding dong, And I say, come on, in and get
this pound. Okay, let's talk about it. Come on here
and get a slice of it. And I didn't say
it to be cruel. I said it to be factual.
When you have somebody loving you, you're not gonna get
DUIs because that man is loving you. I was gonna say, hey,
you've had too much. You're not driving. That man is
(11:54):
loving you. Was going to say, who whoa whoa wa,
what kind of videos are you making that looks like
you could appear to be grooming the child. It is
things that when you are being loved, you get pulled
back from all of the foolishness, You get pulled back
from all of the the superstarter I'm gonna start. You
get pulled back from that because you're enjoying being loved.
So whyever would you put yourself in a position to
(12:16):
sacrifice your life.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So whenever moniquets talking about these things, people love to
make it seem like she's this like negative Nancy, this
drama queen, this oh my god. But to hear her
take accountability in that moment, it's I mean, it's her son, right.
So I think that's a different level of conversation when
you're talking about your own child. But what was going
(12:39):
down with Monique and her son did play out publicly.
So to hear her take that accountability publicly, I thought
was a really big deal. But I mean, that's all
she's been asking for, you know, after legend and things
that she alleged about all the people we just mentioned,
like an Oprah or Tyler Perry from the beginning. So
to see her do it, I was like, I like that.
(13:00):
I like this Monique, like you know, when she was
talking about her son, Like this Monique right here, that
is the mom that is protective, that is about her
family and her bit and her sweet babies and all
her sweet babies. This is what I like right here,
because typically I think the conversation with her is always
about what's done to her and not that. I mean,
(13:21):
I don't know all of the ins and outs of
the situation with her son, so I don't know what
was done to who in that situation. But you know,
just to hear somebody take accountability, it's just it's a
good thing to hear witness. And I think that the
reason why I say that is because it represents a
really good a really good place of like peace or
(13:41):
healing like when you are good in a situation, you're
able to look back and say, Okay, here's how I
might have contributed to that situation. Let's not gonna send
a Monique's issue with her son Shaloon, because back in
February twenty twenty four, Monique sat down with Shanna Sharp
(14:02):
on Club Chase Shay and talked about their relationship and
that was the down spiral of the things.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Let's take a listen my oldest son, Shelan, and this
is what I want to say to this. There's some
people that are saying, oh, you should be ashamed of
your mothering skills, you should be ashamed of yourself. This
is what I'll say. Let's let it play out because
the same ones that said to me, I was crazy,
(14:30):
I was deranged, we watched it play out. So just
like with my son, we'll watch this play out. And
I do want to address this though. Shealan, When you
say her daddy, her daddy, then that's what mommy gonna say,
stop playing, because you know this has been Uncle said
your whole life. Uncle said knew you before you knew you.
(14:53):
So for you to say her three sons, yes, you're
absolutely right. He has three sons. He can't claim you
as his son because he's always been uncle Sid and
he knows.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Your daddy very well and loved that brother. And the
irony of all of this is you're not expressing the
relationship that you have with your father where you spoke
ill to him, not to mention spoke ill to your mother.
But somehow your mother and father and I all have
(15:28):
a loving relationship and communicate back and forth because of
the love that we.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Have for you.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now, after this, her son got online and responded, and
his take on the situation was completely different.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
To address the clips to Shit interview that she did,
where she states and she prays to the universe in
regards to reconciling our relationship, as I stated, is odd.
My mother and I both know that that is a
very false narrative, and I would like to free her
of having to continue telling that lie. Faith without work
(16:01):
is dead, and neither one of us cares to put
forth any effort to reconcile with the other. We are separate,
as she put it, because she doesn't care to be
my mother any more than I care to be her son.
Neither one of us has had the desire to reach
out to the other in a very long time, and
I don't think that either of us anticipates that feeling. Ever.
(16:21):
Returning speaking with my mother directly, in my experience, will
either lead to some odd newfound moment of clarity in
regards to how she was as my mother, or she
retreats back to Daddy to move forward with a conversation.
And I'm tired of hearing my mother's truths. Newsflash. I'm
not sure if people know, but standing in your truth
(16:43):
doesn't make you noble. I'm not sure if people are
aware of that. But responding this way, I feel as
though it allows me to say my peace uninterrupted.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Now, following all of this, there was a photo that
was posted to with Monique and her son and it
talked about them reconciling finally and being able to begin
conversations with healing and figuring it out. And again, I
think seeing that photo, knowing this background and hear Monique
tell ts Madison her ego was in the way she
(17:18):
can be accountable for that, she had to think, Okay,
this is my child, I am the adult here, and
she pulled herself up by the bootstrap and figured it
out in a way where they will where they're now
able to be at a peaceful place. It's just a
good thing to see. I think, you know, it's always
tough with women and family, and I kind of wish
(17:40):
that ts Madison had dived more into this when Monique
was talking about her son, because I've heard Monique talk
about the situation a lot of Monique, we would love
to hear have you here on the Bronco Grinding production
of The Latest with Lauren de Rosa if you ever
listen to the podcast. If you listen, let me know
we would love to have you here because what I
would love to talk to you about. We don't got
(18:00):
to get into Tyler Perry again. We don't gotta talk
about Oprah again. I would love to talk to you
about when you were figuring out that balance. And I
know you talked a bit about this on Club Chase Shape,
but I think the conversation would be different with the woman,
and I think I'll be interested in having the conversation
because as a woman that is trying to figure out
when do I have kids, When I have them, how
(18:21):
do I balance career? My career requires me. I feel
absent as a daughter and a green daughter right now,
and I'm like laughing about it, but like I literally
it has caused me, in some instances so much anxiety
and so much stress is trying to figure everything out
as things are moving and grooving and you know, now
I'm in the flow of things, like we got the podcast,
(18:43):
we got the studio, we know the daily time, I
know the time for breakfast club, like all of this stuff.
Though it's like everything is moving, not even was. It's
moving so fast and things are so new that I'm
used to being able to dedicate a certain amount of
time to family, being able to pick up the phone
a certain amount of times, and I can't do that
all the time. And the other day my mom literally
(19:04):
asks me. And it's probably even worse when it's your child,
but my mom asked me the other day, you don't
love me no more? And she was so serious. She
was like, you don't love me no more? And I'm like,
what do you mean? She was like, we are best
friends and you don't even call me sometimes, just say
good morning the same way that you were doing prior
to all this you know stuff, And I'm like, dang,
(19:24):
I had to think about it. Like it's because like
once I'm up. I'm going, I get up. We at
the breakfast club. We leave the breakfast club, I head
her to the podcast. I get home from the podcast,
I might take an hour to myself just to not talk,
and then I'll call my mom and just kind of
download her day. But you know, hearing from me in
the morning starts her day, and we're really close. Same
thing with my grandmother, and she's been complaining about that too.
(19:47):
So when I'm listening to you know, Monique talk about
being accountable for things and ego being in the way
and finding a pa a place of peace and healing.
All these years later, my first it was I would
love to hear, just even mentally, what you're dealing with
as a mom who is building career. Career is moving
(20:09):
so fast, Monique, Because come on, y'all, y'all can play
with Monique all y'all want and disagree with her when
it comes to, you know, what she's going through with
other people in the industry currently. Like you know, I
don't agree with everything she says. I don't agree with
everything she does. But one of the things that I've
always said is that Monique is an icon. Monique is
a legend. Her career is and was super big, right,
(20:33):
and think about at the height of it having a
child and trying to figure out the balance of the things.
And you know her her career is also very physical
where she has to show up. She's an actress. You know,
she was hosting a TV show, y'all. Remember the y'all
Remember the Monique show. She was hosting a TV show.
I believe that was on Bet. She's on the road
(20:53):
touring as a comedian. All three of these things happen
and y'all, and they're all at a height, and it's
I think, now we have so many more resources, like
we got the nannies and the nanny services and just
so many different things, even like people talking about mental
health now, I think puts you in a different space
(21:13):
as a parent who's trying to juggle things and knowing
like I need to take time for myself, or I
need to devote more time for my family, or I
need to find a better balance because you know, mentally,
this might be putting my child in a certain space
as well. Things are just different now. Would love to
talk to her just about what that journey was like,
because she was in a very different time, things are
(21:35):
moving very fast for her, and they were up. It
was the peak of everything, while also dealing with her
own battles and struggles. You know, she talked about being
overweight on the podcast on with T. S. Madison and
how it affected her, and you know how she almost
she didn't even know at some points, you know, what
(21:56):
her weight was doing to her, and she said this herself,
just how things were perceived. She talked about watching the
Parkers and being like, oh wow, no one told me.
She talked about meeting an agent and the agent saying
to her, because of your size, you can't be sexy
and fun, You'll always be the fun, fat friend who
(22:19):
plays second fiddle to someone. So you're dealing with all
this new you know, you have, you have a child,
you're raising, just all the things trying to figure out,
like trying to figure would love to have that conversation there.
I don't think I've ever heard her in depth talk
about that. I know she did get into it a
bit on Club Sha Shay, and she's touched on it
a bit, but I mean in depth in a way
(22:40):
where we could really understand and honestly learn from that
part of her journey now, at the end of the day,
there's always a lot to talk about, and every single
time you guys join me right here to talk about it,
I am so appreciative. Ah, we're on the road to
a hundred episodes, y'all. I'm like, let's send twenty four
(23:00):
hours away from one hundred episodes. That is fire. I
am excited. Thank you guys for tuning in my Lowriders.
I appreciate you. Guys. I will see you in my
next episode with all of the latest
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right Lauren, Hey, y'all,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura de Rosa and this is the latest with
Lauren de Rosa. Now, this is your Deli dig on
all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the
conversations that shake the room. Baby. Now today we are
getting on into some things. We're gonna get right on
into the latest because we got a lot to talk about.
(00:31):
We have some updates. So Tiffany Hattish and Jason Lee,
Hollywood Unlocked founder, are not having a baby. I rushed
to get that out into say that because I've been
trying to figure this out for It's been weeks. So
let me just back on up right. August fourth, Tiffany
(00:53):
Hattish and Jason Lee posted these photos to their Instagram.
It was a photo of Tiffany and Jason and a
baby in Tiffany Hattish's hand, and of course all of
us and Jason's there, They're smiling, Jason's holding a baby shouler.
So we're all looking like, what is this giving right now?
(01:15):
Like what is happening? Like did y'all go adopt a
kid or have a Sarahgate have a kid. Not the
only reason to be fair because Jason Lee is a
very openly gay man, so for those who don't know
him to be fair. The only reason why we even
assume this is because a little minute ago, Jason Lee
(01:35):
and Tiffany Hattish were having a conversation and they were
talking about Tiffany Hattish wanting to have a baby and
having the baby with Jason Lee. Let's take a listen
to that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You said you would give me a kid. Are you
serious about that?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I wanted to talk to you about the cost of
because I said I wanted to do it the old
fashion where you said no, So I want to talk
to you about.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The cost so long, now we gotta do wait, I
don't like that word.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do the pound.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, wait, So here's the deals. And I had an
agreement like back when I was nineteen, that we were
vacating that world, and since then we've like, it's sort
of like my my mother, we just packed up and left.
It never came back, right, So that wasn't funny, right
it is? So, hey, mom, but no, seriously, Yeah, after
(02:27):
I walked away from Vagina, I just like it was
like that STD's pain, sorrows, shooting, violent drugs, Like I
don't want to be around none of that anymore. Yeah,
but I still want a kid now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Ya could tell he's openly gave men, right, very openly
gave men. Okay, a nothing swinging back over this way
at all about Jason Lee. So when people when when
the picture was posted, naturally people thought like, Okay, they
did it. They either got a surrogate, they either adopted,
(02:59):
because it's no way and I mean not a way
in the devil's hell that Jason Lee put anything of
his inside of her to make a baby. Also, too,
we've been seeing Tiffany Hattish and she hasn't been pregnant,
so that also was a thing. But yes, so this
photo had everybody going. When I tell y'all, I literally
(03:22):
had people texting me like Laura, what's up? And I'm like,
what do you mean? Like everything cool? What do you
mean it's Jason Lee pregnant? And I'm like, it's Jason
Lee pregnant? You mean it's Tiffany Hattish? Did Tiffany Hattish
have a baby? By Jason Lee. Yeah, what's going on?
(03:43):
And then also too, we never talked about it, so
I didn't talk about it here on the Latest with
Lona Rosa. We didn't talk about it on the breakfast
club we were going to one day, but I think
we just didn't get to it. I text Jason when
the photo dropped and I'm like, Yo, what's up, what's
going on here? And I sent the photo. All he
did was send me back a bottle and I'm like,
(04:08):
what does that mean? He didn't say anything else. And
then I was leaving Atlanta. I went and spoke at
the Podcast Summer in Atlanta. Shout out to the Podcast
Summer in Dshans for bringing me down. I had an
amazing time. It was so up put together, but I
was there. Jason Lee also spoke there as well too.
And when we were leaving flying back to New York,
(04:29):
Jason Lee was on my flight. We actually were like
in the same row, so we just sat next to
each other and I was asking him then, I'm like,
what's going on. You're gonna tell me what's up or not?
And He's like, I don't talk about kids. I don't
discuss kids. Child Jason Lee and Tiffany Hattters was on
Jimmy Kimmel. They talked about kids and they are not
(04:50):
having one, nor do they have one right now that
we know of. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What did you think of this whole baby Fiasca.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The whole world has lost their mind on this beautiful baby.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We just took a picture with a baby and then
and then that went crazy. So now we got a
god baby, we do. Yeah, I went ahead and made
it our god baby.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, great? You and daddy, oh thank you. This is
the first time both of us being foster former foster
kids that were actually selecting to choose a baby that
wasn't ours. But that's why adoption is important.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, adoption is important. It was very important, Jason. The
offer still is on the table if you want to
make a real baby together. Okay, we'll have a meet
our baby. Yeah. You know, I'm traditional.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I'm still gay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Y'all not me in the whole word world thought they
might have adopted a kid and it had us going, too, right,
They really had us going. I do like the plug
of you know, the whole like adoption thing, and you know,
plugging adopting kids. My mom was a foster mom for
about like ten or eleven years out of my life.
So my God, I don't call them my foster brothers
(06:06):
and sisters. I call them my god brothers and my
god sisters, or just my sisters and my brothers. Depends
on who I'm talking to. But some of them are
listening to the podcast, hey, y'all. But a lot of
them spent anywhere from like shoot three to four to
maybe ten years with us, with me and my brother
growing up in the same household as us, so and
my mom always did everything she could to try and
(06:29):
keep families together. So like if a foster kid came
to our house and she found out that you had
like a brother and a sister somewhere, she would request
from the social workers that we find you know your
other siblings and they get brought to our house. Things
like that. Just because my mom used to always talk
to me about just everything that children in the system
were going through. And Jason Lee and Tiphany Hattish were
(06:50):
both adopted, they talked a bit about that here and yeah,
so just you know, them being able to use the moment,
you know, in the attention to talk about the importance
of adopting kids, and you know, raising foster children, and
you know all those things. Don't little spent on that.
But Jason Lee, Tiffany Hattish, y'all have me going, Okay,
(07:13):
I really thought I was sitting next to a faba.
We'll be sitting on that plane now. In other news,
up next on the latest TS Madison. So, TS Madison
sat down on her podcast, Outlaws with TS Madison with
Monique and Monique and TS Madison talked about a lot men.
(07:33):
They talked about a lot. I enjoyed the conversation from
start to finish. It was about an hour long conversation.
They got into the Monique and Tyler Perry things and
we talked about that a bit on the Breakfast Club
this morning, but they also got into Monique and everything
that was happening with Monique's son and an update there
where they are. Now, let's take a lesson to Monique.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, people shout as loud when they find out we're healing.
No people do the shows about Monique and her son
when they found out we've been talking, Will people now
shout and say, oh my god? Because we thrive on
what we believe to be negative. When it comes to
my son, that's mine. Yep, that is mine all day long.
(08:16):
That is my child. So whatever we go through, that's mine,
that's mine. What I will say is I let my
ego get in the way. I will say that publicly.
And I had to take that down because I had
to say, Monique, that is yours baby. He's thirty four
years old, you're fifty seven. You know, better take it down.
(08:40):
So for all the ones asking you about me and
my son, we're healing and I'm grateful and I prayed
for that healing. Please bring them back to me.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh now, this was big for me to hear because
Monique is not a person to I wouldn't say Monique
is not a person to a man when she's wrong,
I would not say that. But to hear her say
it was my ego. I think it's hard for anybody,
whether you're Monique or not, to admit when you may
(09:14):
have added to the problem or you were a part
of the problem. But to hear her say what she said,
I'm like, man, because a lot of people try and
make it seem like Monique is this person who just
loves a problem and loves the drama. Because when she
does speak about things she's been through, whether it's been
with Oprah, and she talked about that, Let's take a listen, Oprah.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I'm not going anywhere until y'all take accountability and fix it.
Y'all messed with my livelihood, which messes with my family.
Never would I do that to anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Or the Tyler Perry incident. She talked about that, Let's
take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
One of the biggest entertainers in the world is Tyler Perry,
and Tyler Perry told a lie on me, and that
lie costs me twelve years of my career twelve And
I know that you work for that man. But as
I told you before, and I'm gonna say it again,
until he fixes it, I will not stop because that's
how the monster is created. We're too afraid, what too scared,
(10:14):
We're too fearful that you're gonna take something from me.
So I'm just not gonna say anything. Harvey Weinstein is
where he's in jail now. That's been going on for decades,
but everybody said let it go, don't say nothing, which
allowed that man to do more damage to women over
the decades. I as long as I can help it.
I'm saying, Tyler, her, you will not do this to
(10:35):
another as long as I can help it, because you
told a lie and you feel like you have the
God complex. So I ain't gotta fix it. Either you'll
fix it in life or you'll be dealt with in death.
It's totally up to you. But I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Or anything dealer with her. Me and her me and
her me and her man. Do not play with her daddy. Okay,
her daddy that I'm referring to is her who she's
been married to for years and years and years at
this point. But I found out on this podcast that
Monique and her husband were actually friends. There were roommates. First,
crazy story, let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
If you knock on my door, I'm gonna let you in.
She knocked on my door because she did an interview,
and we're talking about our sister Tiffany had it. She
did an interview with GQ magazine, and some kind of way,
the conversation got to Monique and she said, I don't
have that husband.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Of hers like she got.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Wait a minute, sister, you rung the bell, you said
ding dong, And I say, come on, in and get
this pound. Okay, let's talk about it. Come on here
and get a slice of it. And I didn't say
it to be cruel. I said it to be factual.
When you have somebody loving you, you're not gonna get
DUIs because that man is loving you. I was gonna say, hey,
you've had too much. You're not driving. That man is
(11:54):
loving you. Was going to say, who whoa whoa wa,
what kind of videos are you making that looks like
you could appear to be grooming the child. It is
things that when you are being loved, you get pulled
back from all of the foolishness, You get pulled back
from all of the the superstarter I'm gonna start. You
get pulled back from that because you're enjoying being loved.
So whyever would you put yourself in a position to
(12:16):
sacrifice your life.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So whenever moniquets talking about these things, people love to
make it seem like she's this like negative Nancy, this
drama queen, this oh my god. But to hear her
take accountability in that moment, it's I mean, it's her son, right.
So I think that's a different level of conversation when
you're talking about your own child. But what was going
(12:39):
down with Monique and her son did play out publicly.
So to hear her take that accountability publicly, I thought
was a really big deal. But I mean, that's all
she's been asking for, you know, after legend and things
that she alleged about all the people we just mentioned,
like an Oprah or Tyler Perry from the beginning. So
to see her do it, I was like, I like that.
(13:00):
I like this Monique, like you know, when she was
talking about her son, Like this Monique right here, that
is the mom that is protective, that is about her
family and her bit and her sweet babies and all
her sweet babies. This is what I like right here,
because typically I think the conversation with her is always
about what's done to her and not that. I mean,
(13:21):
I don't know all of the ins and outs of
the situation with her son, so I don't know what
was done to who in that situation. But you know,
just to hear somebody take accountability, it's just it's a
good thing to hear witness. And I think that the
reason why I say that is because it represents a
really good a really good place of like peace or
(13:41):
healing like when you are good in a situation, you're
able to look back and say, Okay, here's how I
might have contributed to that situation. Let's not gonna send
a Monique's issue with her son Shaloon, because back in
February twenty twenty four, Monique sat down with Shanna Sharp
(14:02):
on Club Chase Shay and talked about their relationship and
that was the down spiral of the things.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Let's take a listen my oldest son, Shelan, and this
is what I want to say to this. There's some
people that are saying, oh, you should be ashamed of
your mothering skills, you should be ashamed of yourself. This
is what I'll say. Let's let it play out because
the same ones that said to me, I was crazy,
(14:30):
I was deranged, we watched it play out. So just
like with my son, we'll watch this play out. And
I do want to address this though. Shealan, When you
say her daddy, her daddy, then that's what mommy gonna say,
stop playing, because you know this has been Uncle said
your whole life. Uncle said knew you before you knew you.
(14:53):
So for you to say her three sons, yes, you're
absolutely right. He has three sons. He can't claim you
as his son because he's always been uncle Sid and
he knows.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Your daddy very well and loved that brother. And the
irony of all of this is you're not expressing the
relationship that you have with your father where you spoke
ill to him, not to mention spoke ill to your mother.
But somehow your mother and father and I all have
(15:28):
a loving relationship and communicate back and forth because of
the love that we.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Have for you.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now, after this, her son got online and responded, and
his take on the situation was completely different.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
To address the clips to Shit interview that she did,
where she states and she prays to the universe in
regards to reconciling our relationship, as I stated, is odd.
My mother and I both know that that is a
very false narrative, and I would like to free her
of having to continue telling that lie. Faith without work
(16:01):
is dead, and neither one of us cares to put
forth any effort to reconcile with the other. We are separate,
as she put it, because she doesn't care to be
my mother any more than I care to be her son.
Neither one of us has had the desire to reach
out to the other in a very long time, and
I don't think that either of us anticipates that feeling. Ever.
(16:21):
Returning speaking with my mother directly, in my experience, will
either lead to some odd newfound moment of clarity in
regards to how she was as my mother, or she
retreats back to Daddy to move forward with a conversation.
And I'm tired of hearing my mother's truths. Newsflash. I'm
not sure if people know, but standing in your truth
(16:43):
doesn't make you noble. I'm not sure if people are
aware of that. But responding this way, I feel as
though it allows me to say my peace uninterrupted.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Now, following all of this, there was a photo that
was posted to with Monique and her son and it
talked about them reconciling finally and being able to begin
conversations with healing and figuring it out. And again, I
think seeing that photo, knowing this background and hear Monique
tell ts Madison her ego was in the way she
(17:18):
can be accountable for that, she had to think, Okay,
this is my child, I am the adult here, and
she pulled herself up by the bootstrap and figured it
out in a way where they will where they're now
able to be at a peaceful place. It's just a
good thing to see. I think, you know, it's always
tough with women and family, and I kind of wish
(17:40):
that ts Madison had dived more into this when Monique
was talking about her son, because I've heard Monique talk
about the situation a lot of Monique, we would love
to hear have you here on the Bronco Grinding production
of The Latest with Lauren de Rosa if you ever
listen to the podcast. If you listen, let me know
we would love to have you here because what I
would love to talk to you about. We don't got
(18:00):
to get into Tyler Perry again. We don't gotta talk
about Oprah again. I would love to talk to you
about when you were figuring out that balance. And I
know you talked a bit about this on Club Chase Shape,
but I think the conversation would be different with the woman,
and I think I'll be interested in having the conversation
because as a woman that is trying to figure out
when do I have kids, When I have them, how
(18:21):
do I balance career? My career requires me. I feel
absent as a daughter and a green daughter right now,
and I'm like laughing about it, but like I literally
it has caused me, in some instances so much anxiety
and so much stress is trying to figure everything out
as things are moving and grooving and you know, now
I'm in the flow of things, like we got the podcast,
(18:43):
we got the studio, we know the daily time, I
know the time for breakfast club, like all of this stuff.
Though it's like everything is moving, not even was. It's
moving so fast and things are so new that I'm
used to being able to dedicate a certain amount of
time to family, being able to pick up the phone
a certain amount of times, and I can't do that
all the time. And the other day my mom literally
(19:04):
asks me. And it's probably even worse when it's your child,
but my mom asked me the other day, you don't
love me no more? And she was so serious. She
was like, you don't love me no more? And I'm like,
what do you mean? She was like, we are best
friends and you don't even call me sometimes, just say
good morning the same way that you were doing prior
to all this you know stuff, And I'm like, dang,
(19:24):
I had to think about it. Like it's because like
once I'm up. I'm going, I get up. We at
the breakfast club. We leave the breakfast club, I head
her to the podcast. I get home from the podcast,
I might take an hour to myself just to not talk,
and then I'll call my mom and just kind of
download her day. But you know, hearing from me in
the morning starts her day, and we're really close. Same
thing with my grandmother, and she's been complaining about that too.
(19:47):
So when I'm listening to you know, Monique talk about
being accountable for things and ego being in the way
and finding a pa a place of peace and healing.
All these years later, my first it was I would
love to hear, just even mentally, what you're dealing with
as a mom who is building career. Career is moving
(20:09):
so fast, Monique, Because come on, y'all, y'all can play
with Monique all y'all want and disagree with her when
it comes to, you know, what she's going through with
other people in the industry currently. Like you know, I
don't agree with everything she says. I don't agree with
everything she does. But one of the things that I've
always said is that Monique is an icon. Monique is
a legend. Her career is and was super big, right,
(20:33):
and think about at the height of it having a
child and trying to figure out the balance of the things.
And you know her her career is also very physical
where she has to show up. She's an actress. You know,
she was hosting a TV show, y'all. Remember the y'all
Remember the Monique show. She was hosting a TV show.
I believe that was on Bet. She's on the road
(20:53):
touring as a comedian. All three of these things happen
and y'all, and they're all at a height, and it's
I think, now we have so many more resources, like
we got the nannies and the nanny services and just
so many different things, even like people talking about mental
health now, I think puts you in a different space
(21:13):
as a parent who's trying to juggle things and knowing
like I need to take time for myself, or I
need to devote more time for my family, or I
need to find a better balance because you know, mentally,
this might be putting my child in a certain space
as well. Things are just different now. Would love to
talk to her just about what that journey was like,
because she was in a very different time, things are
(21:35):
moving very fast for her, and they were up. It
was the peak of everything, while also dealing with her
own battles and struggles. You know, she talked about being
overweight on the podcast on with T. S. Madison and
how it affected her, and you know how she almost
she didn't even know at some points, you know, what
(21:56):
her weight was doing to her, and she said this herself,
just how things were perceived. She talked about watching the
Parkers and being like, oh wow, no one told me.
She talked about meeting an agent and the agent saying
to her, because of your size, you can't be sexy
and fun, You'll always be the fun, fat friend who
(22:19):
plays second fiddle to someone. So you're dealing with all
this new you know, you have, you have a child,
you're raising, just all the things trying to figure out,
like trying to figure would love to have that conversation there.
I don't think I've ever heard her in depth talk
about that. I know she did get into it a
bit on Club Sha Shay, and she's touched on it
a bit, but I mean in depth in a way
(22:40):
where we could really understand and honestly learn from that
part of her journey now, at the end of the day,
there's always a lot to talk about, and every single
time you guys join me right here to talk about it,
I am so appreciative. Ah, we're on the road to
a hundred episodes, y'all. I'm like, let's send twenty four
(23:00):
hours away from one hundred episodes. That is fire. I
am excited. Thank you guys for tuning in my Lowriders.
I appreciate you. Guys. I will see you in my
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