Perspektives with Bank: Young Thug Unfiltered: Pain, Growth & Survival

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in
tune to perspectives with big Bang. Let's get straight to it,
well to perspective back. Today is a very very special
to day.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I got a very very special guess, most talked about
person in the world right now?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, what's up with the king living life? Bro? How
you feeling, I'm planning, planning, planning, That's what it's about.
Where you're mentally. Mentally, I feel like sometimes you be up,
sometimes you be down.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
But I feel like mentally the game that I'm in.
I'm not even sports or you know, I'm not an actor,
none of that. The game, I mean, no matter what,
you want.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
All eyes on you.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I feel like right now this moment, no matter how
the eyes look, the eyes can look devastating, the eyes
can look betrayed, the eyes can look no matter how
the eyes look. In the game I'm in, you want
all eyes on you, no matter how they come. I
always pray for that because I want all eyes on me.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I don't matter. I no matter how the eyes look.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I guess this is just him saying, hey, do matter
how they looking, No matter how they looking, no matter
how the eyes look.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
A lot of the eyes gonna be like you you
that wrong. A lot of the eyes gonna be like
you're right hey. Before we get into all that though,
like you know what I'm saying, what's going on? And
you know the talk talk whatever. That's the reason why
I said I got jail. I want to talk. I
ain't never seen it in interview like speak on John
bro south of a little jail.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know what I'm saying. Why not.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I feel like just not even on no no supermanly
shit or nothing like that. I feel like personally, I
wasn't raised by by like victims or men with men
with like really really touching feelings, or like you know

(02:14):
what I'm saying, I wasn't raised by those type of
men I was raised by. I was raised like, I
wasn't raised by dwellers. I was raised by men that
that always said keep going, no matter what, go forward.
Because you got to understand, my mom got eleven kids.
My daddy he couldn't sit and being his feelings about
certain things because he still got eleven people to feed,
plus my MoMA plus him, plus his other kids. My

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dad got fifteen people you got to worry about every day.
So he ain't he ain't have a chance to sit
back and just focus on his feelings and feel certain thing.
I wasn't raised like that. I was raised by a
man who just was like, go forward, because that's what matters.
What matters is not sitting and just being stuck in
the moment and the well in them on certain things

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like that ain't what life is about when you living
as a king. It's about going forward. I think I
did that so much to the point where I forget
to speak about certain things. I'll be forgeting to speak
about Little Jill.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
What's your uh, what's your earliest memory? That's great.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I ain't never asked nobody that question, what's your earliest memory?
If you can think of your earliest memory, like it's
the first thing I remember, is far as back I
can remember you.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
My earliest memory was John Burst South, my hood, the hood.
I'm from the project. I'm from John Burst South, my
brother on phone free on my brother. He he burned
the house down playing with Mattes. Because you know, when
you're in the projects, you got that big ad long

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metal heater connected to the wall that come into the
little snake looking heat he playing with matches on that
and it burnt down the whole building.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Though he burned out just our apartment, it burned down
the whole building.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, that's my first memory, like real life, you know,
coming up, like what's what, what's the first time you knew?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Like that's your first, that's your first? What type of memory?
What you say that is good or bad?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
In between? Bro?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
We were raised so different you too, brother, men like
you raised me from even if it's from addition, I
always looked up to real street dudes, real guys who
from the street, and this and that. I always looked
at this so men like I don't even look at
that like it's bad. I look at that like a
fun memory, Like damn, that's how fucked up we here, Bro,

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that's how that's how we raised. Like this nigga burnt
down the house. I don't even look at it like
it's bad. I looked at I looked up to him
for that, like damn, by nigga have to set a fire.
That nigga din'tgn know how to set a fire at four,
at five years old, he's not a set a fire.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm asking him how. They said, how you do it?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Like that, telling you that's how we raised brother that
she did how he was raised for real, So you
know your first I know you got some crazy memories.
I was just saying when I asked you the question,
I was just trying to think of mine, my first one.
When I can't, but I often say, what's your first
what's your first happy moment.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
In life? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
My first happy moment was when my mama moved out
the project to a house. When my mama moved into
her first house instead of instead of apartments, I was like, damn, bro,
we got a house. The house was smaller than apartment.
Ma mama had got a three four bedroom house. The
apartment was five bedroom. It saying not feeling so confined,

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no more like a brown bunch of people that we got.
We got rid of some grass.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like, but I got great.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I got a yard, I got the neighbors like like houses.
Like when I'm waking up getting on the school bus
in front of my house instead of the project.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It was wrecked across the street from the project.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So it's just like, you know, but that was like
one of my first happy, happy moments, and that I remember,
Like as a kid, what's your first satis moment? I
used to go with this girl named Santana in Pool Creek.
That's when we moved out of John Birth South. I
moved out of John Birth South and I was like
three four years old. We moved to Pool Creek, which

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is right around the corner from John Birce South, and
I started going with the girl that stayed like two
apartments down for me. Her name is Santana. I was
going with her like we're probably like five six years old,
like kids. I was going with her and we were
sitting on a bench and I think I was talking
to another girl and she got named and she hit
me with a stick, with a swap with a real law,

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called me red hand right here, hit me with a
law and made you said yeah, because it was like
like dang, she broke up with me.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I like, damn, I love my girlfriend. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
What about what's the first time you feel like you
felt betrayed, like as a kid coming up or No.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
My first betrayal was like because I'm a kid, so
I wasn't introduced to the world or like niggas or
friends and shit. You know, you like you confined to
just your your household and the apartments you live in.
So my first betrayal was probably like my other family
members like me, me hearing my auntie say, you know,
she don't want my mom kids at her house cause

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we're just too deep. Like we got roaches and shit
in our house. Our clothes got roaches, so we might
come to her house and so roaches might come out
of our shit. Now she got roaches in the house.
And I understand it. You know, no, no harsh feelings,
but you know that type of shit, the nigga that
I am, that's the type of shit I was dealing
with in life as a kid.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I was dealing with that.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Like my mama got so many children to the point
where her sisters and brothers like man man and hell nah,
we didn't even want to deal with y'all, No, sir,
there's too many of y'all are They weren't even on
no bullsh It's just like she liked me. I got
three three bedroom apartment. I'm god damn raising my kids.
It's a certain.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Way y'all over here, y'all grown, the hell y'all doing
y'all want to do, And my hell, now we want
that shit over here.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I want my kids to grow up. You know, a
certain a different way. So I get it, you know
what I'm saying. But that's the type of shit I
was dealing with. Like that was my first like betrayal,
just like hearing my auntie say she didn't want us
our house we got damn we have roaches.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, hey, shit, we had roaches like motherfucker too of course,
but hey, my auntie them did too.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
But she she was she it was so they were
so small, so she was able to stirming that when
she was able to get rid of the certain ship,
she got a little bit. Yeah, she had roaches, ye,
because she lived in the project. She was clean as
a motherfuckers. She ain't had them a three kid. All
them was respectful, cool people, kids, cool kids, all that,
so she can contain like, what's going on? Hole, we
just so deep. It's just like y'all fin to come

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over here. We are we broke ahead. We don't got
we got the smaller, smaller amount of fools down then, yo, mama,
mama got a lot of foods now because she got
a lot of kid. My mama, like man, we got
three hundreds worth fool snaps. Y'all, come, y'all eat all
the godamn food because y'all. Just dee y'all, don't even
trying to do no bush y'all eat all the food
and now we now my family, don't you know, just
like that type of.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Shit, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Until recently, like and a lot of people who watching
they probably been watching me. They see like different. I
feel like I'm different. I know I'm different now, Like
at first I was. I was trying to trick myself
into being different and end up working, you get what
I'm saying. So, and I started realizing certain shit like damn, man,
this is how you felt about this, or this shaped
you or this what made you start to think like

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this and this what made you? You know what I'm saying, Like, So,
how do you think little Jeff impacted your thug?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
A few things? It was a few reasons.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
A few things like from litlegit, from me being a
little just impacted young thug, like some of the ship
that I just spoke on, like that made me like
love people more because I seen like some part some
parts of my family like not having do gratitude and

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like love that that I want it as a kid,
Like I actually loved my auntie. I actually loved my cousins,
my cousins from my aunties, my auntie kids.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I actually loved him and my mama. We were so deep.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
My mama always taught us like love love, y y'allpos
to be, y'allpost to be with each other.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
We'll never go against Steve. Folks love love, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
So those type of situations impact the impact Little jeff
to to young thug, just like I'm telling you, you
gotta think we My mama got a five bedroom apartment.
We eleven deep, all eleven of us a little while
in five bedroom.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
So I'm I'm living. I'm sleeping in the same bed
with four other people.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
The four youngest kids my mama got sleeping in one bed,
then the middle three sleeping in two beds in the
neighb room.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
They got two different beds in the room, in one room.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Then the other. It's like that. So we were grow
I grew up off of like you gotta love one another.
We ain't have nothing. We was literally themn there junkets
like we ain't have none in the world. We do,
I'm telling you when it ain't all nothing like not
for junkis. But like you know what I'm saying, Like
junkie shit, like we don't got nothing. Like I wear

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my sister clothes to school. My sister then I got
a drop out of school just so I can wear
her clothes and people don't know that I'm wearing her clothes.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's what I'm saying. How those circumstances, Like in what way?
The like way? What it make you feel? Like?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
It made me feel like I just wanted It made
me feel like my aunties and shit, like aunties and
uncles and stuff treating my mama family a certain way.
It made me like want love so bad. That's when
I start me friends. That's when I started wanting love
from like other people besides my sisters and brothers. I
started like I started trying to get love from my friends.
I started trying to get I started getting you know

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what I'm saying, Like it just made me just seek love.
I started seeking love because I was I wasn't getting
loved from like certain parts of my family.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
It shaped me in that way, and then a few.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
More ways, like I watched my brother down in front
of me, you know what I'm saying, Like I watched
my brother die in front of me. Eight nine years old,
little boy, kid whatever, he got killed. My brother got
killed on Deal on Deal Avenue. My brother ended up
getting some doing some gambling ship. He stopped my other
He stopped on from gambling, and then he kind of
slapped with brown like like he led him twelve years

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old looking he was a kid. He gambling with some
grown ad men though, So he go up there to
stop my brother from gambling. Then he started gambling. He
ended up winning all the money. So when he leave,
one of his friends, hell fuck nigga. One of his friends,
God damn call him and tell him like, brother, don't
come back up here. The niggas like they gonna take

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the money back for you if you come back, because
he took my brother. Like yeah, I'm gonna go home
right here. I'll be right back, y'all. Don't stop gaming.
I'll be right back. So he walked down the street
to the house and her friend called him like, man,
don't come back up here being the goddamn which is
which some people will look at like naw, this they
ain't no funck nigga shit, that's real niggashit. But him,
he knew my brother, He was my brother be friend.
He knew my brother gangs. He's standing on that off top.
You tell my brother some niggas gonna.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Do something of him.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Don't come back. He going right back. Cut the thing
about it. He wasn't even coming back. He had one
all the money he wanted, like nine thousands, a little
kids ship. He wont like nine thousand. He his friend
knew he wasn't coming back like he like made him
come back by telling him a nigga fin that like
he's gonna rob him. So he go right back up
there and shoot a nigga who he go wrap back
up there a a ty who just said who you

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just called me and said niggas they're gonna rob and
rob me?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Who you said gonna rob me?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
The nigga til but it man, fuck nigga, who you
said we gonna rob me? You just called me and
said one of the niggas might roub me. That's how
the ship that the situation started. He shot a nigga brother, Yeah,
he shot two niggas. He shot three niggas. He shot
his friend and then he shot the two niggas that
kill him because a friend were acting like a he
was acting like a whole like not wanna tell him
who said we're gonna rob his friend.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like, man, bro, you're tripping your tripp who wna shoot him? Bitchy?
Had he boom.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Then when he shoot him, he started saying, man, did
nigga say him?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Bro? He need two niggas. So he started shooting at
the niggasom then he take off running. He had the
police side. He take off running them.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Niggas got them start back shooting back shot him in
the back while he were running. Ran down the street
a little bit and fell on the ground and just
like you know, he just on the ground gasping like, man,
hurry up, get me in a car, Get me a
car to the trehill. He's just telling us like I
feel like I'm dying. Like like I'm telling you, I
feel like I'm dying. Bro, I feel everything's slowing down.
My heartbreak, everything's slowing down. I feel like I'm dying.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Y'all got it? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm right here, real little boy, I'm looking at my
mama holding a nigga. He hand like he going and
shop my mama, like beanie, like, son, you hear me,
you hear me? And he just like choking up blood.
But he like, you can see trying to he trying
to say something, like he let her know. I hear
you trying to say something, but he can't talk. So
my mama like, you hear me, squeeze my hand. I'm
holding on his hand. My mama hold the other hand.

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She's like, if you hear me, squeez my hand, son,
squez my hand, don't go something you squeezing in our hand.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I'm like, he stick.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm looking at this
shit as a kid, bro Like, So from that day,
for what I always said, I'm a do something to
the nigga that kipt my brother, that.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Just shaked my life. That made me from cause I
played football. I looked at the Michael Vick I played.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I wanted to wrap. I loved of the little way.
I loved the Michael Vick, I loved other hot boss
that just shaped me from all that. From that point on,
I looked up to like steppers. I looked up to
niggas from my hood from John Vers South there how
many business That shit just made me a whole different person.
That one situation I would remember like nine years I.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Was a kid.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So from that point on, how you like looking back
on like what changed? Like what changed in you?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Me from that day? What changed in me was.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
The way I viewed like niggas that wasn't from where
I'm from, because that's what it boret down to, Like
a John verse South nigga got killed by a deal
avenue niggas. So that just started making me be like, man,
you're from John versus nigga.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You know what's saying. Now we live in that type
of life.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
So now what I'm saying, like the situations I was
in shaped me in so many ways. It ain't shaped
me one way because it was so many different situations,
different scenarios to a point where it shaped me so
many different ways, Like me not getting a little the
proper love from my entire family made me seek love
from niggas and women. Me seeing my brother get killed
shape me to how I view niggas in the street,

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how I view niggas Like you know what I'm saying,
it's me playing for my daddy, like moving me away,
Like I ain't never wrote to school boy, but my
dad took me to school every day.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I had a real father.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I never wrote to school, but that shaped me to
being a man, like I'm gonna be a man my
dad to death. This nigga doing what he doing, he
used to do what he'd do back in the day,
the hustle to get his money or whatever whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like I looked at all that type.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Of shit, like, damn, he'll he'll a real man because
he's still trying to do whatever he can do to
feed all these kids. And he's still taking time out
to take me to school every day and come get
me from school every day because he just wanted me
to be that far away from the streets.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like that shaped me in a different way to being
a dad that I am to my kids. That shaped
me in a different way. You know, just just so
many different scenarios just shake me. Like every I look
at my mama cry every year. My brother's birthday, Bro,
that nigga died three days for my birthday. His funeral
was on my birthday. Like nigga, I remember my tenth
birthday of funeral. I'm going to a funeral on my

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tenth birthday. Brother, my brother who just told me for
he left out the hours and died. I'm gonna give
one hundred dollars for your birthday. I'm looking at that like, Nigga,
I still wake up right now today, I still want
one hundred dollars for my brother.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Can't get it. It just it just certain shit, just shake
me certain way bright Just you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So when you look at when you look at yourself,
like when you reflect and just look at yourself, how
you see yourself right now as a person, like if
you had to judge you, how you see yourself. The
craziest part is, Bro, I thought I was whole. I
thought I was wholesome. I thought I was like the
perfect man.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Into this situation, this situation at hand right now made
me realize like, damn, bro, I'm actually fucked up like
I was just so God just created me to be
so happy to the point where I know how to
like get beyond problems. I just always was happy. My
whole trial, I just was happy. Hell because it's just

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like I ain't got no reason to be happy. But
it's just like God just I'm just a happy person.
I'm just a natural happy person. I could have got
a life sentence and went to prison with rest of
my life, and I would y'all would have been seeing
me in prison on photos just happy because I think
God just created me like that. I'll be mad at
goud sometimes for that, Like, dang, bro, why you created me?
Just like so happy to the point where I can't
be in touch with my real feelings.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But do you think that type ship yet? There? Make
it the well a nigga?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Because I'm gonna keep real with this line, like coming
out of jail and we're like, man, what the fuck
is this nigga doing?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Like it's like you you want to learn, you ain't learn,
yo lesson and all this shit going.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Hear any calls talking on.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
The phone, like what the hell I want with this nigga?
Like you know a nigga trying nigga? I know you
was in the playing right absolute, Like it's like, do
you not understand your prayers got answered?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, you understand that, but you also you also listening
to people tell you like why you the wizard?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
You ain't going to prison?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
And then you gotta understand I was in jail three years, bro,
Like I was praying three whole year. At some point
I started thinking, like the prayers ain't working. Gotta understand
that too, Like I'm going through shit every day. I'm
looking at my beg friend and do what they do.
I'm looking at this. I'm looking at some shit and
it's making me feel how I'm feeling like I ain't
never been a nigga the pill of talk. I ain't
never been a nigga to talk about nobody else in

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my life on the phone with nobody else.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I've never been that type of.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Nigga I've been the last few days, I've been sitting
around like what the fuck was I thinking?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like what I was doing? He said, I think I
was just so fucked up, and I just felt like
it was just over.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Like I'm just sitting in jail twenty four hours on
twenty three and I'm in a sale of twenty three hours.
Like at this point, I'm just like, man, I don't
give a fuck life. It ain't it ain't what I'm thinking.
It is, like, I'm just talking now at this point.
I'm just talking. At this point, I'm just holding conversations
with my girl.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
But the crazy part is all these conversations that I
had on the phone, I also had with the same
niggas I was talking about on the phones.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
So that's why I.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't sing weird between us, me and them because I
don't help. These same conversations with Walliam, I don't hurt Hell,
These same conversations with Savage. How I feel abou him,
how I feel about Wham, how I feel about this,
how I feel about every situation.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
We talk like me and we brothers, we talked. They
tell me how they feel about certain things. So we
all aligned.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
We want we yere, But you gotta understand, like my standpoint,
I'm locked up, nigg I'm on the phone, talk to
my girl every day. This is the only person I'm
talking to on the phone. It's the only person that
I can talk to. Like I can't even talk to
my family because they just like how they is. It
ain't good for my case. They can be on the phone.
They don't understand certain things, so if I be on
the phone with them, they might say the wrong thing

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on the phone.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
So now I can't talk to them. Now I can't
talk to Bank. I don't want the police to get
on Bank. Now I can't talk to them. I don't
want to pulle get on him. I don't want to
police get on Sava. I don't want to police get
on on Pluto.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's just so much shit in my mind to the
point where I'm just like, I'm confining myself. I mean
not confind I'm like trapping myself to just communicate with
one person, and then you just I might go to
court and just get body slam by the more fucking
jezs bro, and then I just got to come back
to the jail. Now I'm on the phone with somebody
that I love, whoever it is I'm on the phone with,
and they like, man, goddamn or you know, goddamn.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
They say, this is nigga right here, be no put
a little on brother, the nigga pull up. Of course,
I'm just like Roder got Baty slam by the jail.
I'm just feeling hoind feeling Bro. I'm just saying what
I'm saying. I ain't even tripping on nothing. I'm just
saying what I'm saying. And I told all these niggas
these same things. But looking back on how you feel
you just said, God, damn, like damn, you feel like
you were tripping.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I feel like I'm tripping, But I feel like because
I ain't never did any shit like that.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I ain't ever pillow top with no girl ever in life.
I ain't never in my life.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Hell, no conversation with no girl about nonther nigga ever
until jail. And I've been trying to figure out, like
why the hell was I even doing that? And then
I just had to like think back to when I
was in jail, because I did a long time in jail,
so I know how to think right back to when
I was in jail right now. So you've been reflecting here, Yeah,
And that's that's another thing I don't even want to do.
That's why I don't even respect the phone calls shit

(21:57):
coming out, because all they do is make me think
about when I was in jail going through fight, my
fight for my life. All they do is make my
girl think about the whole long gas conversations on the phone.
On the phone, we're praying and we're doing shit and
hoping that I can get away from this ship and
come out of it.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Like that's the weird part about this ship that's happening.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like this ship, all this, y'all, this sh is just
like a fun, fun moment and of means on the
internet and trying to just like tornish my my existence
and just my real nigga shit, my real nigga life
to like just just to have fun with it, but
not knowing, Like, but this shit traumatized in the head.
This ship got damn make me remember when I was
in jail. This shit makes me remember those dark ass
days and moments I had bro This.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Shit make my girl cry. She ain't even tripping about
what we saying on the phone. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
We said whatever I say, I say twice. I'm a
grown man. I'm a man nigga. Whatever I say, I
say twice. And I then said that to every nigga.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
They know that.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
So I ain't tripping on that part. I'm tripping on
just like the world, not knowing that I'm tripping on
the world.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Just oh well look this, oh y'all here go to
know the phone. It's just like broy, y'all don't understand
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Let me say this, if you want you knowing, knowing
that you told these people and use on the side,
how would you look at that if you use up
from the sideline just listening slime on the phone on
the jail phone talking to Savage talking to a girl
just about like everything, how would you look at that
if you didn't know, like you said, you know you
done told these same people this, How would you look
at it? Depends If I was on the sideline and

(23:21):
I've never been in that situation like no jail, ship
or fight for my life, I probably would look at it.
How people looking at it that ain't never been through shit,
they probably looking at it like, man, you's some bullshit?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Why you talking about?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
But if I was a nigga that had experienced certain shit,
I would look at it a certain another way.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
But and me personally me, I'm I'm a smart man.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I not to think so if I see somebody else
going through this, I'm the type of person that be like, damn,
I want to know what he thinks. I want to
hear where he was feeling, Like why do you do this?
Why you said this ship on your phone calls? Why
you were saying this shit on your phone call?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Because everything on the phone call came from courses being
asked or they just putting out your part. You who
you thinking putting them putting the putting that sh up?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't know, you know, I'd be looking at it
like some of the niggas that's like mad that I'm
pushing grown man business. I'm pushing We ain't telling nobody,
it ain't no recks, ain't doing it. It might be
people that's like, that's like, you know, it might be
stemming from that, because do you think you're inviting the energy?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Though? Yeah one overfully, yeah overlly, But.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Me just knowing how this world is, even if I
wasn't inviting the energy, it still happened.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It still would happen. They just say that.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I know it because you gotta think before the world
even seeing an interrogation video of me or anything.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Jail cars out here and I already got leaked, jail
call got lead when I was in jail. Terrogation ship
was already too.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Right, I'm just saying all this ship was happening while
I was in jail, So I can't.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Think it would be me personally, bro this just for
me now, I don't think it would be. It's like
right now, yeah, terrogation ship came out too, and it
was and there was some ship in there. We're gonna
talk about that some ship and there like damn slam,
why you say that over there?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
What dire wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
But at the end of the day, I'm saying, niggas
wouldn't want to be like, yeah, man, fuck that nigga
if it didn't come with you Gotta think, bro, if
people's out here and they motherfucker like free sh line
to the death, like can't wait till you get out,
but then when you got out, it was like, hear.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
He's still on.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
He's still the same that he want to go back,
just off of tweets and this and and you know
what I'm saying, that's just that's just like damn bro,
Like for you, bro, you just you just.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did some ship. Niggas don't do you just got damn
came home on some ship.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
We God, Damn damn there everybody telling nigga ain't supposed
to make it back, and you back.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's God. So it's like, damn the un It's like
the universe too, what's making to me? Making it like yeah, spanking.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I think personally, no matter what I came out of
jail and did, it still would have came out one day.
Me personally, I understand what you're saying because it still
came out when the whole world looked at me as
a real nigga.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
My jail phone call got lead. They want to put
you in no narrative then though they don't fuck the narrative.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I'm just saying, coming out, no matter what I feel like,
no matter what, it's still would have came out.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I know it would have.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know what I'm saying, I feel like it's still
would have no matter what, brother, no matter what I
would have got out of jail and did, It's still
would have came out.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Just because it was public record.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Because at the end of the day, when the first
shit came out, when the first few jail calls came out,
or me and my girls just talking and shit, when
those first few jail phones jail call came out. Nigga,
my team got in touch with the Cub County people
and stopped all of it, like shut down the whole system.
Now you can't go get none of that shit. Okay,

(26:54):
So what they tell you somebody been had it. They
got it back then and they just waiting to release it.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
TG. No matter what I would have came out doing
it STI would have got released. What about like, because.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You can't go on in there and get it right now,
you can't go on carb County website and get it's
been shit down for a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
What about like contradict and shit Like they say, Uh,
you tweeted that you told Sean to take them the police,
and but on the call you told Seventh Lane told
that nigga that, Like, so that's like credibility, Like, damn
Slan you said this, but this you tweeted this, Well,

(27:33):
goddamn what one is it?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah? I overstand that.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And the thing is when when just say I'm in
jail fighting for my life, it's just for people that
don't know the law. I got cold defends. I got
twenty eight cold defends. I got twenty eight niggas on
the case with me. We can't have contact, we can't
talk to each other. We can't be around each other.
When I go to court. They got me on a
whole nother motherfucking places side of the courthouse. They got

(27:56):
these niggas on different sides of the courthouse. Nobody is
around each other because we co defenders. We get another
charge if we talk to each other. We can't talk
to each other. So when I'm on the phone, a
nigga like Savage, he know what he know about the law.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
But it's some things that he don't know about the law.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
So that's what slowed me down from calling niggas from jail,
because he on the phone just having an enormal conversation
with his brother and he just want to know what's
going on, Like I just want to know what's going on, brother,
Like you've seen your brother, plea, You've seen this. You
know he don't know the law. He don't know the
side of the law where I got a co defend
and I can't talk to him. So if I get
on the phone on a jail call and tell Savage, yeah,

(28:38):
I talked him. I told him for wim to take
a plea, that's another charge on me because I don't
supposed to have contact with them phone. So when I'm
on a jail call talking to Savage, I got to
say no, hell, And I ain't taught that nigga do
that hell now, because all they gonna do is take
that jail call and play it in court.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Now, I got to attempt the court charge. So when
I'm when I'm in a jail, when I'm in a jail,
I can't say it. And when I'm in a jail,
I'm like hell, I told nom niggas take no plee. No,
I ain't did that, cause I gotta do that on trial.
I don't supposed to have no contact with him. If
I say I told my brother to take the charge,
all they gonna say is how you told your brother that.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
You must have talked to your brother. Boom, the lawyers
can get in trouble. Oh type of shit can happen.
I'm on the phone off the top. Hey, noa, I
ain't tell that nigga take no charge. Fuck No, I mean,
I ain't tell him to take the plee No. But when
the case over, cain't. Nothing happened to me by saying that.
So when the case over, hey, let me clear this up,
just for the world or not. Because I told Savage no,

(29:31):
I told Pluto no. Like I told a few niggas
who asked me, like, bro, you told your brother to
do that. I'm like, hey, and I ain't telling them
to do that. So so obviously niggas that I fuck
went in the streets in the world. They looked at
it like, all right, your brother did what wrong? You
ain't tell your brother to do that.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
So I gotta clean that up because I really did.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Tell him after the case, after the case, Hey hey,
and I overly told him to take the charge, but
because it definitely looked like damn, they took the same
police So how to hear you gonna just single gune out?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
You know what I'm saying. You know why, but you
was done talking? Nah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
The reason why I differentiate his plea from day plea
is that's like that's like you telling your son to
do something versus you not telling your son nothing and
he do something.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hm. I told my brother to take the plea.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
We had a week and a half conversation talking a
week and a half every day in court. My first
time seeing the niggas here we've been in jail. We
crying each other all the type of shit. I'm like, brother,
get the fuck on this nigga, been in prison and
whole like you think the nigga do a funck about
going to prison.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
By that nigga, A man can't standing on that hold.
Don't give a damn by no sentence.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Hone told me every every day in court, he told me,
hell na boy, you tripping, bro boy, I'm rocking you
my brother, and you my real live brother like my
mama had, Yo Mama, And we got a say, Mama, nigga,
you're my brother. If you go to prison forever, I'm
going to Princeville. Fuck that he's just a freak nigga.

(31:06):
That's how you're looking at it. Hell no, nigga, I'm
crying to the nigga every day.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Please Bro, you Jack got out of prey break, just
did twelve and a half year ghet the fuck on, Bro,
Please Bro. I'm on the phone, MO Mama, nigga, Mama
crying every day. Man, both of my son, Man Broy,
y'all come back to me. You don't go for what
having y'all need to come back to me now. I'm
telling my brother gone, you gotta get back one Bro,
I'm gonna be alright. I'm good. I'm a man. I'm
standing on mine. I'm gonna be right. I need you

(31:30):
to go.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
That nigga one, that nigga crying to me. By Bro,
you understanding what you're telling me to do. Rother No,
I'm a man.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
That nigga.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
You had a life sentence nigga for not telling him
he not a rat. No matter how you're gonna look
at nyhing, this nigga that did a life the niggas.
They had a life plus ten prison sentence for not telling.
They got this nigga on the fire for the crime. Yeah,
for not telling.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Now they know he didn't do it. They know he
ain't do it. He got a life sending. You know that,
just that motherfucker judicial said to me, brother, they know.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
They got the nigga who did the murder on the
phone two days after he did the murder, talking to
somebody on the phone like many your nigga, stop playing
my man. I just had to step on the nigger
other a few days ago playing my money.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
They got him on a on a wired phone call
saying this, they know who did the murder.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
They know committed the murder.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
When when we had cameras at the house when the
murder got committed.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
My brother was in the house from in the house sleep.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
When when when this shit happened, they got cameras from
like people, other people houses and ship of my brother
leaving out the house after the murder. His best friends
then was was convicted of doing the murder and they
was in my mama car.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Nigga.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
My brother still in court every day of his motherfucking
life still to this day, told the judge, I don't
know them. The judge like, dumb ass, nigga. We got
phone calls with you and them on the phone. We
got our phone call with you and them the night
of the murder. They just talking about other ship, just
talking about going to the club, fucking with holes all that,
and the niggas. You're like, sait, I'm gonna pull up,
I'm come get you the nigga dodge and come into

(33:01):
my house because you know what, I'm gonna ask for
her car. So he like, man, you gotta walk around
the corner and getting the call, like they don't real
phone calls, telling each other. My brother still in this
motherfucker fighting every day, saying I don't know them.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
They lying on me.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
The judge just sought it to him just because of that, like,
oh you you playing game.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
They offered that nigga immunity. They know he can't do it,
they offer him immunity.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Hey man, you tell exactly what him cause they saying
one of the niggas saying you brought the gun to them,
One of the niggas saying is three of them. One
of the niggas saying Oofus did the shooting. One of
the niggas saying they do the show and he just
brought us the gun.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
They like, why y'all didn't just come to the house
and get the gun because we was in his mama
car and if we were to put them in the driveway,
he mama would have made us leave her car. So
we called Ono and told him he come around the
corner and meet us and bring us the gun. We're
gonna go to the club. They just like, bring my fact,
we're gonna go to the club. Bro got them supposed.
I don't know if he did it or not, because
he still ain't told me to. I don't know if
he did or not take them the gun. But when

(34:04):
he take them the gun, they gone. They ride off
and gone like they're gonna go to the club and
do what they're doing, but they end up.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
But that's what the court said. I don't know. I
don't know the case. The court said that they roll up.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Some Miskans and one of the Miskan books and then
shot him and the Miskan died.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I don't know if that's true or not. I'm not
saying it's true, but this is what the case was.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
They saying, my brother took the gun to them, and
then they and then one of them killed the Miskic,
which we don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
God damn, they got one of the Miskans that didn't
get shot, one of them got killed, and one of
them they let run on and run away.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
The one that ran.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Away said, my brother is about they think probably about
five seven five eight red as a motherfucker, real misking
Chinese nigga. The Misican that that was that didn't get
shot said. The third guy that walked up was a
tall black man with a ski masks on that They said,
how you know he black if he had a ski

(34:58):
mass on? He said, I seen his hand. His hand
was black. So my brother off top. Everybody knows that
ain't him. They know one hundred percent he didn't that
he didn't do the murder. He just got a light
scended because he didn't. Wudn't tell they granted him immunity.
I don't they didn't take it. Man, fuck y'all, I
don't know. I don't know nothing about that. I'm telling you, brother,

(35:19):
this man and man, I can't put no I can't
put no wreck on him. I can't I'm telling you,
I've seen shar stand up in and Shallow was seventeen
years old.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Sha was a kid. Charld stood up in the paint.
Bro Charld have got a life sentence. So let me
ask you something. To his plea say the same shit? Gun?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
The police say, like, is it the same? Like did
he have to agree to the same shit? Guess what
you want to believe?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I ain't never seen you, please, I ain't never seen you. Broughly,
I said, just hell, you go home, I told him,
because he.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Still he had did twelve years on the murder, and
then his lawyer got it, got him a new trial,
like oh he they fought up and tried. The lawyer
got him a new trial. So now he's out of
jail waiting to get tried for the murder again. They
ain't gonna trying for the murder again because they know
it ain't now he doing. He ain't do nothing, So
he wasn't gonna never get tried for it again. They
were gonna they were gonna just like God damn, keep

(36:09):
resetting the trial there for the rest of their life.
He was never going to court again. That's what the
lawyer say, Like it's ain't even ain't never that case.
They can't beat them. So I told him, well, if
you do take the plea, make sure they add your
murder case in the plea. Make sure they dismiss your
murder case in the police because you still you still
got to do a new trial. Saying they did that.

(36:30):
I don't think they did it. I think when he
when they went to them with the plea, I think
they were like, the plea is the murdership.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
We can't do nothing about the murdership. If they if
they could, they would have.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
But the state was like, we can't do nothing about
the murdership, like it's a new trial, like it ain't. No,
we can't get involved in that. That's up to the court.
So I guess that's what they like. We can't add
that that ship now. So that's when he likes sh
I'm definitelyn't doing the plea.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Then.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Now we're having a week and to have conversation every
day brother the court every day sending them sell crying
like like broh, we gotta go, brom dude, I ain't
mind you fo can't function gone. One of us need
to go right now. I don't need you right here
with me twelve and a half. I don't need you
right here with me, bro this ship and it'll be
three four year process. I don't need you doing that, bro.

(37:21):
So who did was right on that case? Everybody who
on the case did was right except the niggas who
took the police in the beginning of the truck case.
Except them, the niggas who took the police in the case.
That's who did was wrong. They they took the plea
and agreed that why say it was a game? They
saying that we got a rico and why, sir, is

(37:43):
a criminal street game? All of us on this trial,
all twenty eight of us saying, why sale, it's not
a criminal street game because by the the book of
the Book of Games, the law that got that solidified
you as a game. We don't, we don't live none
of that. We don't we don't come to terms with
none of it. So it ain't a game in real life.
It's really not a game when it comes to the game.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
It did some shit except on their own.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, there's just a lot of crimes that happen, and
they're just saying, oh, why sall a game?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Off of all these crimes that happen.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
But the law that makes an organization a game, the
law that makes an organization the game, we don't meet
none of the criterion. So we're not a game, no
matter how y'all try to twist it. We're not a game.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We got every lawyer, this motherfucker saying we're not a game.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
So who you look at in this shit? It took
the plea that you let. Oh, I can see how
he took the plea. Nobody do, okay, nobody else, all right.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Because and I ain't like saying, oh he didn't got
damn do what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
He didn't do this?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
One thing I know is he ain't taking the plee.
If I don't make him take the plee, he ain't
shutting that plea.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So why do came wrong? I just want to know, because.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Do Plea was from all Duke said in his plea.
He didn't say what I said it was a gang
and none of that. All Duke Plea did was said
that Yak was right about telling on him about what
they talked about.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Duke Plea was just what Yack already had told the
police about him.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
You see what I'm.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Saying, hello, Hello, Hello, he lord, he said, Duke just
agreed to what Yack said. Yes, Duke, Yeah, you said
Yack threw Duke up under the bus. And he just said,
the nigga tell him truth on me.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, because if he say that he not, then Yat
gotta take a stand on him because Yack plea agreement
said he got to take a stand if Dukes.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Go to trial. That was the part of his I'm
saying so yet, Yah say, ain't nobody he he was
on big face. He said, nobody didn't go to jail
for what he said. He just was in there running
his mouth and it wasn't nothing interrogation room.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
So how you what you mean? Testify? Take what did
he talk when when him and Duke caught their case
Duke was going to trial? What kind of case it was?
God damn.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
They got caught in a car they ain't have no license,
and they had two guns on them and they went
on high speed chase, which one they took Georgia State
Patrol on high speed chase.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
So when they get locked up, this is what their
charges is.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
The death by receiving stolen gun, stolen property, which is
the guns and and well I think it was one
of the guns.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I know they had them by receiving and then no
license because because they were driving, they was in the car.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That's what That's what told on the gun and some
license stopped playing.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
That was the original charge. When the police came. Yeah,
when the police came and talked to to Yak, Yack
told him what Ashley was happening?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
What what was happened?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Like they He told him Duke got jumped on that
Magic City by by some ops, by some by the
opposite and he came to Magic City to get dupe,
and they were going to retaliate. Go go go commit murder,
possibly commit murder. They're going to retaliate against the people
that just jumped on do That's what Yack told him.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Hold up, so let's slow down. They get they on
the way to the op hood. This is with it.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
This is what the police saying. They got caught with
some guns and no license. And he turned that into
what he told him what really was happening, Cause the
police just like, why these two they ride past the
state patrol.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's two young niggas well, he hoodies and ski mask.
Now that those ship ride past state patrol, State patrol
get behind him. They going to high speed chase. They
going to high speed chase.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
They wrecked the car, They get out the car, run well,
one of them get out of the car and run.
One of them stay in the car. That automatically make
it fishy to me who stayed in the car. I
think Yach stayed in the car.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
But to.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yah stayed in the cup. That's what I heard.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Jack stayed in the car when they crashed, get out
of run and toss one of the guns got away.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Now he got caught. He getting caught.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, God damn. Some people told me that Yet ran too.
But some people told me that yet then run, Yet
stayed in the car. So if me and you going
to high speed chase, and we both know what we're doing,
we know what we're going to do. If if the
state is right, we know what we're going to do.
The police get behind us, were going to high speed chase,

(42:25):
crash the car, we get out the car, and we running. Man,
if I get out this car and run and bank
stay in this car, the only thing on my mind
is bank finish. Tell on me a bank finish even
if you ain't finna tail on me. I'm finish thinking
my mind bank finish tail the police. It's him or like,
because what you're standing in the car car he must
know he mus got out basically like he must got out.
He muna know something long though, if we spot to

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run basically what you said, like if you're on run
when the police is chasing you, you the one driving,
you take them on the high speed chase.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
If you don't get out and run and you get
out of let duke run.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
You finished, you got something, You finish tell the police,
not even if you're finna tail, you gonna tell the police.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Hey, I don't know, officer. We Joe, I'm auber. We
was just rying this nigga on over there. He got
going on. He jo hopped on the runt.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
You're finla take something like I don't understand why you
not fin the ruin, which is not bad and that
ain't really bad to me, but because if you could
spend twelve you can spend them. If men you go
on high speed chasing and I hop out a run
and you don't, all you can say is shuld ma,
I know that your nigg frond the hood. Don't even
really know her name. Man, that you only told me
dropping him off for the girl hout. I was on
the way home off and dropped Nigga off for the
girl hout Man. When God damn y'all got behind me.

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But I know I can't go to jail. Bi, But
you got a gun. But I know I can't go
to jail. So she I just went on high speed
chase like you know you can. It's it's ways you
can flip it and then and it make it good
like a right cool. I see, I understand why you
shot in the car. If you can flip it, you
can flip it. So I ain't gonna say he sat
in the car. Car he was gonna tell, But I'm
gonna say he it's weird that you sat in the car,
Like so.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
What if you sat in the car? All right? Fast
forward to what the facts you say?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
He Duke got jumped on that Magic city call Yet
this this supposedly I don't know. Allegedly allegedly Duke got
a jumped on it magic by by some opposites. He
called Yeat, Yeat, come get him from magic. Him and
Yack get in the car and on the way to
the ops Hood they go. They on the way to

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the op Hood to retaliate, to go handle their business
like niggasy jump on even goun their business.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
They ride past the police next to the Ops Hood.
They on the op Street.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
When they ride past the police, the police get behind
them and turn the lights on. They going to high
speed chase. They crash, They get out and run.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
They get caught.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
They in jail for driving, no license and fire arm
in the car. This is what this is the charges.
The police come questioning Duke. Duke don't tell the duke
like man something I did cod no, no. The police
go question yat because yet I think ye was in
some more trouble too, So the police go question yack.
So I guess that's his way of being like Ship.

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But I gotta I gotta try to get myself out
of trouble. I gotta I got well, I'm in deep trouble.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Like even though Duke got this Liberty ad case, I
got the same Liberty air case, but I got more Ship.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I'm gonna probation. I you got to jail.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
He yet got it, yet got a deeper rap sheet.
So I thought he said he took the charge. I thought, yeah,
took the chuge he said. He said, God damn, didn't
nobody go to jail for him? Like he don't want
this time and do him and do went to jail.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Bro, you know what I'm saying, like convicted basically like
dude got some pro got convicted. He got probation, probation,
you got I think you got to hear of probation.
So shot went to the FED though, so he had
to take the gun charge. Then he went to the
FED because that was it. That was like his fifth
six time again caught with guns. So your you know
your fifth six time again caught a gun. Now the
FA is involved, not a fair like hey man, then

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kick getting caught a gun not a fast statue.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Now a fast give you the gun charge so you
can't take the gun charge. The FAED gave you the charge,
The fans gave you the charge. You you you running
around saying you taught the gun charging for duke. Now
you dem in your interview, in your interview, you slipped.
You said the gun was my gun, but I gave
it the duke. Everybody know, in a court of law,

(45:57):
if you say, hey, this is my brick. But I
gave this motherfucker to a bank. Whoever is in possession
of this brick, that's whose brick it is.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
That's a fact. Whoever possession of this gun, that's who
gun it is. I don't give for it.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You can tell the police a million times this your gun. Duke,
get't caught it this gun. This motherfucker is Duke gun.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I promise you that. That's how they go.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
So the Fast snatched him. And when the Fast snatched him,
his charge in the FEDS was the gun charge.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
It's because he had more than one.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
But like, yeah, the FAED that will on him, like
we own him. He can't get he can't caught a gun.
He don't beat murder charge all the type of shit
you don't eat. He doesn't beat murder charge all day.
So the fair already own them. He get caught with
the take this. I'm saying, Oh, so Duke didn't go
to trial. That's why he know the thing about it is.
I don't know if it's true or not, but yeah,
told Duke man just take the little probation ship. And

(46:50):
I feel like he told Duke that because he didn't
want his interview to come out because if Duke go
to trial, you gotta take the stand. It's a part
of your So you you tell Duke, man, take the probation. Shit,
ain't eamna a probation. Take that ship and he's triven
going on forward with your like man. So Duke take
the probation, thinking like my brother took the charge, I'm

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gonna take the probation for even being around it.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
They just they just charged and do it. So they
give due your probation, Duke, take the probation. Word in
the street is Yack told you to take the probation.
I don't know how true that is or not, but
a lot of people that said Yack told Duke to
take that probation. A lot of people, reliable sources said
that Yacht told Due to take the probation. I feel
like he told Duke to take the probation because if

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he didn't, he was gonna have to take the stand
on and I ain't wanna take stand because he already
got to go to jail. So you're saying he would
have took the stand of the FED when the pick up. Basically, yes,
if Duke, no matter of the FED pick it up.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
It not if Duke go to try.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
If Duke don't take the plea, yah, gotta get under
stand in Duke trial, that's his plea.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
His plea was this this you get out of jail,
you do this, you do this.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
But if Duke go to trial, when Duke go when
when Martinez want to go to trial, you must take
the stand and speak truthfully about what you told us
in his interview.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
That's his plea. If go to trial, he got to
get on the stand. That's that's yet plea.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And if would have took it and and she got
on the trial, what they would have did the other
fuck the case up? So who had hurt the case?
Like if he if you would have, if you would have,
if Due would have went to trial, Yeah, would have
had to take the stand.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Dude would have got fried what you mean? And this
and the and the and it got damn interrogation. Dude,
yet told exactly what happened. Um hmm, Yeah, told hey, man,
I ain't even gonna play with y'all him. I'm gonna
just tell y'all the truth. It would happen. That's why
he's saying an interview in the interrogation, Man, I ain't
even come to play with y'all. I don't even Man,

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whatever I can do this got damn try to let
this get make this ship light on me.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Bro. They like, man, what's going on? God damn?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I justly the d a's I already own the DA's
already wondered, like, why the hell y'all nigga on the
ice speed chase right here next to the opposite. They
don't know that Dukee got jumped on at the club
though it's on the wraps. It's it's low. We're keeping
it low the street ship, you know, keep that little
gones going on.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
God damn.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
So when yat tell them Duke I joint on that
magic we was on the way to God damn, go
straight off hood. That's why in the interrogation room, and
he was saying ship like they were like, oh so
you're do kill You're like, I win't gonna shoot.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I was driving, how I'm a driving? Shoot up? Gonna
do the gonna gonna shoot?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
He say, all this ship in the interrogation you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's what that's the interrogation room
he's saying. He's saying this ship and his and he
took a plea, and his plea was if Duke go
to when Duke go to trial, you gotta take the stand.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
So what's the difference between Duke in the interrogation room.
Ain't that interrogation room? You in interrogation room. What's the difference?
Dude never was in the interiors room.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I may not do that.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
The difference with me and yacht situation is Yack in
the interrogation room telling that Duke did the crime.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Not no bush and no fundish in that. Ain't even
no harsh feel I ain't mad, ain't nobody none of that.
I want to know what the difference is.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I want to know your on what's the difference between
him in the interrogation room talking and you been interrogation
room talk.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
The difference is he told that that Douke was locked
up for these crimes. He told about the He told
the police what we did, like you, you told him Duke.
That's the difference between his A mind, I didn't tell
on Roscoe. I try to free Roscoe. But I'm saying
Roscoe didn't shoot at the bus. We be serving the

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niggahen they come to Telena, he ain't shoot at this bus.
They ain't beefing. That's that's what I'm telling the police.
Any street nig in the world, I gonna unerstand that
an street nigga in the world, not even say oh
I read it or I did.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
We're wrong, no nigga.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
But what about the niggas who feel like you don't
suppot to mention other niggas name and from the police.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Though the police mentioned the names, I just gave them
my stories. The police mentioned their name. I ain't bring
you no nigga name up in the interrogation the police
mentioning the nigga names. I'm thrown go Op name up,
but I bron go Up name up to talk about
my dealings with Guop like I'm signed the Gucha. I'm
not signing the Bird. That's why go Up name came up.
You know what I'm saying, I ain't bringing no nigga

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name up. You acting like I'm being this motherfucker saying, oh,
big blank black a nigga who the police don't know.
I'm naming a superstars. The police know everyone of the niggas.
You act like I'm bringing the nigga name up.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I ain't saying you.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I'm just saying ain't saying you know what I'm saying,
Like the world y'all acting like I'm God damn bringing
up a nigga name, putting a nigga on.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
The police radar. Man, I'm talking about full blong superstars.
I'm talking about signing. I'm signing to go out.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
What the fuck could I do to say the get
go up in trouble by saying I'm signed, I was
signed to him?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Like, what the fuck can I say about the.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Get bird Man in trouble? Saying that bird Man and
Wayne got a problem not roscaling work Wayne, but Kell
of niggas, canon niggas, canon nigga. Take that as you're
giving them them. You pushing it off on bird Like
that's a motive. I checked that motive now because the
work at that point, it was already already on fire.
You gotta understand Wayne had already said they fought nigga
over my money. This shit was on the internet. He

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already said for a nigga ware address. Man, you don't
listen to nigga muse. He already done did all this
ship he did, so this ship already in the public,
This ship in the in the public. I'm not sitting
here telling them nothing, giving them something to go with,
a story to go with. I'm in this motherfucker saying, man, y'all, y'all,
what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Like, what the problem is? Bird and Wayne? You know
what the what they're saying? The problem is they saying
that they pay them, Like, what the fuck is you
talking about?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like you know that even though I feel like, personally,
I shouldn't even been saying that because y'all already know that.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
So why why do I got to sit in here
and reiterate that? But you know, you said to your nigga,
you're just in this motherfucker's like can you flin flammingy folk?
But the difference is I'm telling the nigga my pap
ain't committed to crime that he in jail for, and
a nigga like, yeah, telling the police that Duke committed
the crime that he in jail for.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
That's the difference. Me asking you do you understand the difference?
I understanding different.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
But like I said, Sliman, I told you just like
you know, looking at it from the sides, like why
would you tell that lady take your number?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I told her?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
If you look at the whole interview, and I'm gonna
put the not the audio, put the video out so
you can see the actual video too. I told the
lady to take my number on some flirtation ship, like
we just flirt when we first come in the room.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I was flirting with off top of all this shit
on video when we come in the room, I'm flirting
with them.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
When we sitting down talking, she's sitting at the table,
I'm talking to her.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
I'm flirting with this bitch, not meaning to call no bitch,
I'm flirting with this lady like And at the end
of the video, when everybody getting up and leaving out
the room, I'm still talking to her because she's getting
up late, like she's still like getting her shit together
and getting up like, well, all right, goddamn good talking
to you. And I'm like, man, you won't know anything
to get my number, baby, I made promises, you know.
I'm just fluirting with the lady. Actually, the world gonna

(53:37):
look at how they want to look at it. That's
wrong shit to say. Just looking back on, don't you
feel like that's wrong shit to say. I feel like
that's the wrong shit to say. If I was saying
it for the reason if I was saying it for
another reason, hearing it, hearing it, hearing it, that shit
sound like that, like honest, right, I understand what it
sounds like, because I'm mad at niggas for saying it
like that to the police. But the difference is the

(53:58):
difference about me is what in that interrogation did I
tell the police for you to think that I'm saying,
if y'all want to know anything else, get my number.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I didn't tell them nothing for me to even say,
if you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Want to know anything else, get my number and don't
tell nobody. What the fuck did I tell them in
the interview for them, even for a fan or nigga
who looking at the interviews? What did I say in
the interview for you to even look at this interview
and say and not say he playing game?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Man, he's a playing game. He talking shit. Ain't need
to tell them shit like ye you told they say
who killed nothing? You said Shannon and Wooden.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yes, So at the end of your shit, when you
say when the police say, well, man, you got anything
else you want to say?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
He say hell, and I'm locked up. Y'all got me
locked up?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Y'all gotta let me get out so I can get
so I can got damn get around, and and then
I can say I can have something to tell y'all.
That's the difference than me saying it because I didn't
tell them shit. In my interrogation video, I'm in this
motherfucker talking shit with him, y'all. Blood hell nah man
with fake bloods we just say that shit in U
Is it crazy? Nobody ain't no real blood? Why ain't
there that.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I ain't with real blood? We just talking shit in music.
I didn't tell you.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I didn't tell them nothing to get nobody in trouble for.
So why would you look at the end of the
interview when I said take my number. I make promises, baby,
don't tell nobody. Why would you look at that part
of the interview and say, damn, b he was gonna
give him his number so he can give them information?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
What information did I get them? Anyway? The first you
get what I'm saying, I get exactly what you say.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
If I'm spending the police, and at the end of
my conversation, I say, get my numberf y'all want to
know something makes your smartest nigga gonna be like you
ain't telling them.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Then, what makes y'all youngest feel like y'all to spend
the police though? Just can't understand that. Though I don't
understand that, man, I'm bitches is smart bro bruh. It's
just like movies just coming up in a game. When
you're a real nigga, Bro, I feel like I'm a
real man. I feel like I honor and I love
every nigga who who I love. So I'm willing to
do anything to help a nigga that I love. And

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sometimes you can make the wrong thing. You can do
the wrong thing trying to help a nigga that you love.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Bye. And when I said do the wrong thing, I
ain't doing that wrong in an interview.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
The only thing I did well I feel like I
did wrong was even talking for an interview, right, But
I'm doing the interview out.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Of pure pure trying. I'm purely trying to save my
man's When I first seen the shit on the internet,
I was like, oh man, But I was like man
because they mixing it because I ain't even watch it.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I just seen two hours terrogation video y'all throught. I
ain't watch it.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
It's flying like man, you gotta little man like you
gotta listen to it. Man, you just listen to it
for me before you jump out there. Please just listen
to it for me, Please, please please, I listen.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
To I said, all listen like you ain't not playing game?
But why the fuck are you in us line?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Because we just yoning And I'm thinking my man's Roscoe
already locked up for shooting that lowayne tilbus.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I know that. I know Roscoe got a trial coming up.
I know that too. So Basil you saying, ain't no
way you were telling me because you ain't even in trouble.
I'm not even in trouble. So did they come in?
They say you ain't in trouble. We ain't talking about
now they're dealing with you, none of that. We just
got some conversations that we're gonna have with you. Wait. Click.
In my mind, this my that my turn to help
my mans. This my chance.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Were just young niggas bro we high hell we gonna
drug like I'm just thinking in my mind, but this
this is my opportunity to help my mans.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Ain't put me in there eat no hot way who
me I ain't blown the sound they.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Get niggas who tell that type of food they get
niggas like me, who who, I ain't gonna tell them nothing.
They give me the blown the sandwich. I ain't get
them nothing but the funk. Y'all get me blown it.
I ain't even eat it.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I'm like, man, ain't that ship? Man?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I think I open that shit up and ate the
quick as if somebody that I ain't even eat this.
I probably did eat this while I was so burnt
down on.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I'm saying like I was burnt, but I didn't get
the luxuries because I ain't get them nothing.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
They would have felt like, ain't giving me something something
because I asked.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Them in there, like may'all ain't gona get in there, bell,
Like God damn, this is the thumb, bro, Like I'm
a motherfucking me there, bro, I'm doing what I'm doing, like.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Y'all don't try me like he would have blown the motherfucker,
Like get a nigga something y'all gave the nigga chili
wein hot pepper.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
You know what I'm saying, God damn, give me what y'all.
Y'all give me what y'all gave the niggas. I know
why y'all ain't gonna get me what y'all game. I
can't gain you nothing, and you don't gettny in return.
You don't get me doing thathing, but de nine my
partly involvement with that to a bus shom denine me
being in a being of blood, being in a game
the nine bird Man having something to do with the
shoot with Little Wayne to a bushom that not denying

(58:17):
me being signed the bird Man. You don't get that
butt denial from me. You don't get nothing but denial
from me. Everything I did in an interview was on purpose. Nigga,
that's crazy. So let me ask you something though. Now,
let me tell you something in fact, because I've been
saying hearing and all this shit. You know what I'm saying,

(58:38):
a lot of this shit valid. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
You did whatever whatever hell ever, but fuck that. This
is how I feel me to you.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I know you said this ship probably would have came
out or whatever, this would have happened, That would have happened,
This would have happened.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
But what I'm saying is, even in there, I don't
feel like you realized what you was going through. And
then when you got out.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I don't feel like you was focused by the way
you should have been like, I don't feel like I
feel like you're taking your blessing for granted.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
That's just how I feel like. I ain't here to
condemned or God damn protect. I ain't here to do
nothing but get your perspective and feel feel your energy.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Bro. So what I'm telling and I'm hoping you feel
my I'm saying I feel like you, Sulada, got out
of jail.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
And truly went what your the narrative? I went with
what was it?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Truly humble under God? Yes, sir, I don't feel like
you came home humble bro enough, and I don't know.
I'm just saying I'm from the sideline. I talked to
you when you first got out the first day you
got out.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
You don't live and call me through. I like what
I say, but fuck out that, get home and get
get to it. Nothing else.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I don't feel like you did. I feel like came
home playing again. I don't need me personally, I don't know.
I don't know bank. Just to be honest, bro, I

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don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I don't know. I think the greatest part is I
thought I came home on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I thought I came home just like popping that shit
and just living life and getting back to life and enjoying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Like, but you still gotta understand these two bank my
whole life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I poured into people. I built niggas foundations. I built
niggas up my whole life. Any nigga you can name,
I play a part, a major part in they success.
I witnessed, and I feel like you gotta look at
it from you gotta step in my shoes. Bank, I
gotta get out of jail and rebuild. I gotta get

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out of jail and rebuild this shit. I can't get
out of jail just and just hit the ground running.
That's what them niggas do. That's what a fuck nigga do.
They go past what the fuck they did wrong, and
they just keep going rebuild. It doesn't mean what like
rebuilding your mental, rebuilding my mental rebuilding my financial stability,
rebuilding my organization, rebuilding.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
My the rebuilding like the way the world looked at me,
the way the world perceived me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Because you gotta think, I get out of jail and
I spent my last ten years every day with my
friends and we building we're showing the world this is
how you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Supposed to be, This how brother said, the hood is,
this is how we supposed to do it. This is
what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
So I get out of jail to now, I don't
got them friends no more, so I just get out
of jail. I'm used to being with them my last
ten years. I've been with them every day. So I
get out of jail. Now I gotta learn how to
not be with them and not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Because they dead or they went to prison, or they
did it, because because they they betrayed me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I can't just get out of jail.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
You're going forward, bro, like I thought I was though,
but this situation in hand just let me know, like damn,
you ain't going forward.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
You wasn't going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
But then I look at it like damn, why I
ain't going forward and not going forward like success? Because
I don't look at them nigga like they ain't moving on?
Why ain't moving on? And I think like it because
I gotta rebuild. So do you think watching a nigga
look as if they like Gunnar? You think watching Gunna
look as if though he ain't hurting about this shit

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or moving on that shit hurting you even more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
You don't like the word hurt. I see how you
looked at that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
But a nigga gotta know when they hurt, bro, because
the only thing you're explaining is is you somebody betrayal
those words bringing heartbreak.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, but we were gags, we made were men, Bro,
we bosses brouch thing. But I cried on in thet
by day. Give the fuck? Ain't that games?

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I know that our heart is fragile because look, and
I said, he said, I just seen you known't listen
to all from jail calls too. Yeah, heard the nigga
talk about the day. But I said, I listened to
that motherfucker. And you said something like because I had
already told it on him. I said, Brother, the reason
why I shline and it's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I could be tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Reason why I shline ain't fuck with Gunner because he
already done put the word down and snapped it to
niggas and he got a stand with these niggas not
saying this right or wrong. It's like ship, how the
hell I'm finished? Make these nigga fuck up their friendship
or whatever they combriberate with the nigga and then I
come home, I feel and then I ain't never told you.
I talked to Gunner when he first got out of jail.

(01:03:33):
I'm trying to get an interview with him. You're like, man,
I ain't really about an ni niggas saying, I know
my brother in that box fucked up. I was just
in the motherfucker fucked her, nigga. Mine ain't right whatever.
I don't give fuck. If he'll tell the nigga fuck me.
If it ain't fucked me when he get out of jail,
then my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
You know what I'm saying. I love that nigga. I
know he loved me, he.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Knowing, he knowing. I want to dig that shit. I
trouble asking him, folks, is this gonna affect my brother?
That's what he told me. I took it from phase back.
That's what he told him. It ain't the truth, all right.
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I'm on the outside looking at I'm just telling you
what he said. That's what he said. He said, Oh,
I ain't saying that the truth, and he said, I'm
sure that's what he said. He like, I'm just waiting
on here. Word.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
I don't know, because yo, his lawyer could have told
him his lawyer could have failed on the bullshit. My
lawyer's just a real one. Brian, a real man. He
gonna tell you, hey, this is what we got strength
at in this trial.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
This is what we black at. This is what you
fucked up at in this trial. This is what you
got there, asked.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
So that's part of the reason why I took my
plea because he like, you're gonna win the case one
hundred percent. You're gonna get acquitted, But you can't get
acquitted with for the ship that they found in your house.
It's in your house, the house in your name, everything, Like,
even though it ain't your shit, they still got it.
The law tell the jury you must charge the owner
of the house with these items if it's in his house.

(01:04:48):
So Brian always told me, like, this is where you
gonna get convicted. That that's what I feel like you
could get convicted it. He said, you still can win it,
for sure. I think you're gonna win it. But I
gotta tell I can't tell you. I can't be no
bullshit like he you go to the nigga l you.
I gotta tell you, hey, this is where you strong
get you strong in every corner of this case except
this one. The ship they found in your house. You

(01:05:09):
not stronger that no matter what, nine times out of
ten you can't kick, you will get.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Convicted of this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Now I'm thinking about you saying like you had to rebuild,
you had to move on to the niggas for ten years,
you had your partners that been with you ten years,
and then every day. But I see you on gun
every day every day, like every day, like to the
Maxine like you and do there every day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
But it was a different every day with you, Gunner.
But what I'm saying that that ship like a marriage
you did. You know what I'm saying. So it's like
you having your wife, bro, And this ain't even just
your wife. She came in but you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
She came into the relationship bout stuff. Meanionnaire doing this ship,
doing this ship. She came a bomb. She came with nothing.
You made her a millionaire. You you foundated her. You
built her with all honesty, like you built her just
on some honey shit. Not even know I'm gonna build
this project. It's just like, damn, while I look at

(01:06:04):
the little nigga like my little brother. I love that
Nigga'm finna try to my better help a nigga do something.
I didn't even know this nigga Wap when he first
came around me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I just was just like on some ship. Like man,
everybody with me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I'm taking them with me. We're going with I'm going
to figure out if you don't wrap, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Finish whatever the whatever, whatever we put on this internet
and the fans say, what the fans commit him, the
fans put on him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
That's what I'm gonna make him go with. If we
get on the internet, he don't even got to be
a rapper. If the fans say, but they nigg got
this ship. Your nigga dripp is a motherfucker. But I'm
gonna make sure you first is a motherfucker every time
they see you like we just I'm just don't do
whatever I can do to help my.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Niggas or my girl like whatever, I'm doing whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
So so have you have you ever ever actually sat
down and thought to yourself, how do I really feel
about this? Not not? How would I take it back
to this? How do Jeff feel about this? Before I
saw my brother get killed? How will he feel about this?
About what about Gonne period?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Just all of it? Like how do you like? Trying
to get you tap into it? Like how do you
really really feel?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
How you know?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
How we know how we're supposed to feel about ship.
They need to crawl me. That's how we're supposed to feel.
How you really feel? How you really feel about this ship?
Like I really really feel I feel like true word,
King Truth. That's where King Spider come from. King Truth

(01:07:28):
is the big Homan where you, Michael King True our
big Homing. I honor true words to the t, no
matter what I'm with him to the t. He's not
a he's not a bad man, A real man to
me what I what I identify as a man. I
honor his words. He told me before he died. He
didn't tell me on his dying bed. He just told
me before he died, Gunner is my son. Take him

(01:07:52):
with you to get him out of the hood, get
him out of shape of park. Take take that boy
with you, that my son. And then just so happened.
He just end up dying. And I honor his word.
I honor his word. Bro, I took a nigga with
me everywhere. Bro, this this is my man's bro. Whatever
you wear, all the bullshit that I knew about you,
all the shit you did, the ship, that on the on,

(01:08:13):
sitting on the porch, talk about your cousin, damn there,
telling on the goddamn to the to the crime stop
for people, all this shit. I knew all this shit
later on, but I knew this shit and I just
found a way to love you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
You know what I'm saying. I knew it and I
just love you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Cod just on a true word, and I feel like whatever,
I don't know what Truth told you, but I know
he told you something good, and I feel like you
just then honor the word.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
You ain't under that, bro, You ain't even on the brotherhood.
We ain't even talking about truth. We just to my brotherhood.
We're from the street, Bro. You not how hard it
is for us to become successful. Man make millions of dollars.
If a nigga take me from where I at sleeping
on my mama mother fucking couch to making me, he

(01:09:00):
means the dollars. I'm dying before I go against him,
no matter what. I'm gonna die before I go against him,
no matter what. I don't think he feels you know,
like I said, I ain't his the goddamn protect or
condemn nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I don't feel like he feel like he crossed you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Though, me personally as a man, me knowing him, He's
smarter than he looked, A smart man. He let his
silence make you think other make you think other things
about him. He a smart man, strategic. I taught him
how to be. The thing about it is, when it

(01:09:36):
comes down to being real, I don't the strategic needs
go away from me when it comes to being a
man like standing on man business a man, I don't
know how to be I know how to be strategic,
but I don't I forget to be strategic when it
comes to that. I'm gonna say the truth. I'm gonna
pour it out. What it's supposed to be. Life to
him is just all about being strategic. It ain't about
nothing about being a real man, or like coming to

(01:09:58):
grips with what's going on or just like just like
just like knowing like I did that. You know what
I'm saying, It's gonna always be from some strategic ship
behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
So you you like, is it came out to blue?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You know using when nigga, if you the way the
nigga you describing, you have ben saw that though, So
you're saying this just came out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Of blue with that case.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Nah, But the crazy part is, bro, he not already
did some ship that that's a violation, but we don't
nobody really know about it but me and got damn
cash X. So my brother, he already un did some
ship that was a violation that I was supposed to
cut him off for he alreadyun did some shit was
I was supposed to cut him off?

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
I just found a new way to love him, and
I tried to be how y'all live. I tried to
look at him from a different light and be like,
maybe he ain't understand, maybe he ain't know. I know
he knew though maybe he ain't know the only reason
why I knew he knew it is because he denied
it instead of saying, Damn, I ain't even know a
nigga that don't know gonna say Damn, I ain't even
know that a nigga that know what he's doing, what

(01:11:02):
he's gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Hell nah, I denied it, like hell not right here? Nah,
Like that's just how that's just how the circle of life.
That's how I go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
You gotta understand, bro, I had the man on me
every day since two downing late two down fifteen. I
had the man with me every day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I made this man his I made him a millionaire.
Like I bought his first apartment that he lived in.
I bought it with my money. I made him put
his money up, keep your money. I bought it with
my money because I had some a little extras. I
bought that shit. I went half and half with you
to buy your mama house, your mama first house, get

(01:11:41):
her out of the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I did that me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I told you to go down there to the country
town to get your daddy. No matter what your difference
is with your daddy, I told you that. I know
for a fact me personally. I know your dad don't
look at you like a real I know that this
is my man's your dad is my oji. You don't
look at you like that. I made you go get
your dadd I made you reunite with your family and
do the right thing. I just poured my awe into him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Bro. I gave this nigga more time than my children. Bro.
I gave him more time than my kids. I gave
him more time to my old lady.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Like I poured my life into these people, bro, like
every second I went half on your mama house and
bought your mama house, bro, because you didn't have the money.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I went half with you. I bought your brother his
first truck and let you present it to him like
you bought it your brother on the internet. Man. Yeah,
like nigga, you don't even know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Like you don't even know, bro, relax, this ship that
don't better don't know, but we men, so I don't
be can to speak on that type of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
We mean, I ain't doing it for that reason. I
did it cause I just honored my brothers, my friendships
and brotherhood. I honored that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I love you bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
So man, that's cal so you still love them, Bru.
I poured so much into the nigga. I can't even
hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I thought and jail.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I thought I hated him when he took the please
and shit when they did it, I thought I to
be nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
My girl made me realize, like, boy, you don't hate him,
you just mad at him. Yeah, you don't hate him, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
You hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Mother, when you stop talking about while you hate a nigga,
you own a whole type of time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yea, yeah, yeah, you stopped talking about him, like, but
I don't wish no ill, no ill will on him,
no ill feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Doctor man An that ship hit the that because I
was just angry, okay, but it seemed like nobody understanding
why I'm angry?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Like Bro, all the ship I did for this nigga? Bro, Like,
what are you talking about? Bright?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I put my whole label, my whole ship behind this boy.
Man like nigga, you think key nigga, key damn, you
think key of respect you nigga as a man? You
think he to respect you for what you did?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Ro? You too, my rp key brother. You know ke
ain't gonna respect you for what you did to me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
You know that. You know he he ain't gonna respect that.
You know, ain't no real man gonna expect that. You
did that? Bro, stand on it. You did that everybody time?
Why he ain't he said that? Why quiet? What can
you say? What can you say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
If you was gonna What can you say if you
was him knowing everything you know about this ship? What
can you say if you was him? Just think of
something you think you can say if you was in
gunna shoes, what what happened? I can't really put myself
in the shoes. I'm just saying, nah, but sometimes guess
what feeling is. That's what what I think he should say.
If everything you saying is that, I think he should
call you and have a conversation. But what you take

(01:14:28):
a conversation, because niggas, you gotta think, gotta take.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
A conversation, all right, So what can I say? I
know that I ain't even talking about what can you
say to me? Or he might want to say something,
but he knows trying to want no conversation. So what
can I say?

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
I feel like you portrayed a certain image as soon
as you got out of jail, because nobody know you
did what you did in the courtroom, So soon as
you got out of jail, you portrayed Soon you get
out of out of jail for like a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, like you gotta put you a certain thing, a
certain image.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
You're saying these words, you're saying goddamn this and that
you're saying this when you first get out of jail,
you're saying all this shit. Then the video come out,
then it's just like, what this is what the world
gotta start doing, including you. We gotta start putting ourselves
in people's shoes. That's why I said, if you were him,
knowing everything that you know, what would you say? I

(01:15:26):
probably would do the same thing, not say shit because
I'm knowing my man. I don't want to say nothing
to the internet, up to nobody else. I know that
nigga don't want to hear this shit. No, But you
gotta understand the way you put it, it's almost like
it's almost like you this interview is almost gonna be
you telling him what he can go with. We ain't

(01:15:47):
talking about that. We try to fuck none of that now,
cause you gotta think. You gotta think if he's sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Around saying, like damn, what he can go with his move,
his next move, we ain't talking about that. It's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I tell me his next movie because I'm just a
nigga like that, Like I don't want to see no
nigga down.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I'll tell a nigga move. Do this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
You fucked up, but you can do this right here.
You can do this, Okay, Okay, we're just saying. Man, man,
let me say this. When you just sat there and
said you wouldn't take the conversation, that would make me
say that. But you said you took the conversation, then
I would have said what I say.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I ain't talking about what you'll say to me, what
you'll say about what you did. Okay, just just say
you say to me what he said to me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I told you what he said to me earlier. That's
what he said, the truth. You asked me what he
said it already. I just told you. Yeah, you know
I ain't never heard that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I just told you he said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
God damn bro, all these niggas on the internet saying
whatever they're saying, fuck that ship. I know my brother
and that boxing in the right head space. I know
that Nigga loved me. He know I love him. If
I would, I swear I would have never did nothing that.
I feel like it hurt this nigga. Man, I said,
waiting he get on, he gonna have to say fuck me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
I understand all that. I feel like he being a
man and we're just talking about feelings and just putting
on the line. He probably gonna be mad at me
for telling you he said that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
But he said, I'm just what I'm saying, is I
understand that I would think that he would say something
like that. Obviously, if you did some ship some bullshit
to your big brother, that's one of the things you
can say.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
But I god damn for THEO, did you foe treat me?
You know what I'm saying. That's something you can say.
That's any nigga. If you would have did what's wrong,
if you would have did what Gonna did, you would
have said the exact same thing. Brother, my brother, bro
like bro, I'm just wa ain't goddamn brother, you foe
treat me? We ain't talking about none of that bullshit,
none of that. Capt were talking about, man to man,

(01:17:36):
what why did you do what you did?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Because I'm here, Because I'm here right now in this interview,
tell you why I did what I did, Because.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
I'm a man nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, If I'm right, I'm right,
I'm standing on business as a man nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
I'm speaking with what This is what I did. He said,
this is what I did. Why he did he can't
That's what I'm trying to make you say, what the
can he say why you did that? What can you
say besides some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Nigga shit, What can you say that'll make anybody in
the world be like I understand?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
What can you say?

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Nigga created you? Nigga, Well, God creates you by help.
I was a part of your journey. I been with
you the last ten year. I spent more time with
you than my girl.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Bro. I was around you more than I with my
fucking girlfriend bro with my kids, I didn't have them
phone call with my baby mama saying, man, you be
with a nigga at your mother fucking children. Brother, you
supposed to be smart enough, and I know you're smart enough.
You supposed to be a man enough. You're supposed to
be smart enough to say, I'm not finna do that.

(01:18:44):
I know all this shit that the nigga sacrifice, I'm
not doing in your mind, you're taking the nigga fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
That's what it is. What else can it be?

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Obviously you're gonna say I'm gonna do what I'm going
to do, and God damn, I'm just I'm gonna just
keep telling the world.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Man. Then my brother, I love him so.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
You're saying his whole campaign is a pr stuff, not
even to like bash him with that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Brother, Really, I'm really but that's what you're saying. Yeah,
I ain't even trying to I'm just saying, like I
ain't eve trying to bash on that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
But it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
You can't say nothing to make a man or what
we identify as a man, a real man, a real nigga.
That's that's not on morals and principles. It ain't nothing
you can say but the victim, like body, you folks
tricked me while I got now there, my brother, no
matter what, my brother, no matter how you're gonna say
that to a nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
You just what are you talking about? We all in
this motherfucking trial pushing why Sale is not a game?
It's a narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
What's the worst betrayal you can do from a in
a trial? What we're saying why sale is not a game?
What's the worst you could do? Say it's a fucking game. Yeah, nigga,
don't folk called you second in charge before call you
see your second man in charge?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Hold up, let me say this though, what about the
niggas who actually started while itself?

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
You didn't they take they? Please? Before?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
No, he the first plee real, Ganna took the first
he know that, you know that I didn't know that
gonna took the first plea was already telling them, no,
Gonna took them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
They had already told back in the day on crimes
and shit that they was involved in a rico. See
see look the rico came in twenty twenty two. I'm
thinking the rico came March nightfe twenty twenty two. Man,
what's the little dude? I mean may knife from your
hood DK? And who is another one the club?

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm thinking that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Them two already saying like like just a VNS and
me shy and club started a game, right, yes, and
we all identified as the three founders, right and we
signed Thu.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
And the two founders saying yes the game, but Banks
saying is not. How is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Thud wrong for just being an artist by saying it
is too? That's what I'm thinking happened. Naw, that ain't
what happened. That ain't what happened, bab. The first plea
took was gunna plea. Ever, Ever, the first plea took
was gonna bug all of them took please after Gunna.
Everybody took the plea after Gunner. I can't even be

(01:21:27):
as mad at them as I can be as him.
I can I should because y'all still grown me. No
matter what the nigga say, y'all grown in just like me.
When he said wise it was a game, the smartest
thing for me to do is say, yeah, it is
a game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
One of the nigga who they say is a founder
of it, he not even the founder. One of the
niggas who they say as a founder of that came
on out and took a plee and said it's a game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
You'll be a motherfucking idiot to sit in here saying
that it's not a game. When you got a nigga
who these fault and our labeled, that's the second man
in charge.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Heapened. But the other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
No, he took the polee first. Gunnar took the plea first,
Gonna took the pleae first. Then them niggas start taking
the people when we start going to court. Donna didn't
never make it in the court room.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Remember the first day of court was December November seventeenth
or December seventeenth, one of them. Days were the first
time we wasn't on zoom, the first time we went
into an actual courtroom, all twenty eight of us.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
But watching that shit on the street. But that shit
list j another one every day, another one. But the
crazy part is the other one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Get what even if them niggas was them niggas some
bullshit anyway, but some bullshit too. But even if them
niggas just look at it from the point of view
niggas like DK shlug all on it, I still don't
respect them because you're just not mean, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Niggas not men.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Shouldn't no nigga make you do nothing that you're supposed
to do. But just look at them, Okay, gonna take
a plea ei a head nigga in charge. According to
the day, Doug is spossman thug Johant got it what
they said, John got I know, John gott it now
a real man man, silent nigga. I bill foundations by
help niggas. I'm not portraying, oh gainst no, none of that.

(01:22:56):
It's just so happened. We just street niggas and and
we're done stood on our business. So they label us gas.
I don't push none of that. I push real man.
They saying that on the founder of this ship, and
this Nigga is the head man in charge. He he
the second boss when this trial started. They not saying
DK is the one of the owners. Monday one of
the owners.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Slough one of the owner. They're not saying none of that.
They're saying Thug is the owner and Ganna is the
second second man in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
They said they ain't have a Thug and no no,
I thought they said they ain't have Gunner and like
nothing like nothing against him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Gnaugh was in. Gunna didn't have no case. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
We had nine terrorbytes paper that there bro nine terrorbytes
of discovery. That's over three hundred million pieces of paper
running back three hundred million pieces of paper. That's how
much evidence they had. Three hundred million pieces of paper.
I think it was nine terrribytes, two terribytes, whatever it is,

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whatever that is, it was terrorbytes. That shit equaled up
to three hundred million. I remember remember the lawyers arguing
it in the court. I remember the lawyer saying, like Yanna,
they got to take some of this shit, the evidence
that we're not gonna use and just get this shit
out the way, because y'all just packing us with evidence
and we just got a little time to like go
through the evidence.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
It's so much paperwork.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Y'all might be coming to court trying to convict him
on this these five pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
But you got sixteen million pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I remember just going to court arguing about that type
of shit with the lawyers, like like, Judge, we're trying
to dumb this shit down. Some of the shit they
know they're not using, so we need to know what
they really using so we can focus on it so
it can be a fair trial.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
It need to be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
So I'm saying that to say, out of all that paperwork,
bro gone, a name went on one piece of paper
out of three hundred million pieces of paper.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
You know that? Yes, hold up, let me let me
let me get this line. Let me let me play
devil advocate right now, okay. And I ain't trying to
protect or defend or offend nobody. I'm just keep saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
What I'm saying is all right, y'all ain't talking right,
y'all ain't talking?

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Yeah, I mean while up, Yeah, nah, Okay, I caught
a future time to talk to him, but they would
just giving me to run around.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
That's what I started figuring out then, Like I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Your girl, his girl, his mama. You know what I'm saying,
Women in your ear like they done got you in
some Basically you ain't on no paperwork.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
So basically it's just like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
When Oom caught his case and went to jail all
that time for nothing. That's how he was probably feeling, like,
I ain't gonna go to jail for nothing. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
I'm just saying, like you're putting it in perspective openly
because you got you got people that's watching this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Don't give a fuck, no nothing about no street code,
no nothing. I know. But we're talking about street niggas. Okay, yeah, yeah,
you're not talking.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
About none of that. You talking about no more fucking
white boys who went to college. We talk about street niggas.
You consider the gun as a street nigga. You portraying
a street nigga. Okay, you talking about no telling your song,
you're talking about streeting, You're talking about stepping on shit,
You're talking about all type of shit in your music.
You standing on street nigga business. You do everything street
niggas do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
You are portraying a street nigga. If you're not a
street nigga, don't portray it. You portraying a street nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Street street nigga, an yourhythms, you portray every one of them, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
That's a fact. I look at you like a street nigga.
You my little brother. I love you to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
I look at you like a street nigga. Though I
don't look at you like a dork or no lae, no,
none of that. I look at you like a fly nigga.
You're just kicking your penmphty and doing this, doing this,
and that why I definitely look at you like a
street nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Okay, look, let me say this, and this is the
last thing I'm gonna say because I don't wanna sound
like I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Can you look at it like, bro, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
You had to be in the fucked up mindset if
you played guilty knowing you wasn't guilty overly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
That's one of the things why I always that's that's
why I'm at the point now where I'm like, I
feel like my back against the wall and people ain't
hurting me out, So now I understand his point of
you like, damn, that's why I say shit like, I
would love to hear what you gotta say.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Because then I can actually judge you tell said nigga
said publicly?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Don't you publicly said why? I said, it's a criminal
street game and it must end. You publicly said yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
When they said I know three or more co defenits
on this case, well, three or more co defenits on
this indictment, which is the twenty eight niggas. I know
three or more niggas that committed these crimes murder, h
until they murder, a cravated assault, damage the property, shooting
their houses, petty cot thefts a Roberts. You said, I

(01:27:44):
ain't know three or more people on this indictment that
have committed these crimes. Publicly they asked you that in
the court room. You said, yes, ma'am. First of all,
you don't know nobody on this case. All twenty eight niggas,
they from John Vers, South clean Nevenue and in other
places like that. He's from the south Side. He don't

(01:28:05):
know nobody on his case. This this what's so weird
out of all twenty eight people on this case. All
you know is three niggas, Me, Gunna and Duke. That's
the only niggas you know in this case are gonna
So when you said, yes, I know three or more
niggas that committed these crimes, who the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Is you talking about? Me gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Because we the only niggas you know anyway, I ain't
even I know you could have been talking about anybody's school,
but just so happened.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
How the dice roll? You won't no name but three niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
So who the fuck you could like if you would
have went to trial the state if his ship was
getting used in trial, which it was, unless I got
all the case and his plea agreement was gonna get
used in trial.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
I know they saying like, oh, he ain't had to
get the effort plea don't mean yes, he had to
get on. He ain't have to get understand you know
they pushing all those narroves. He didn't have to get understand.
He wasn't gnatify against nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Yes he was. If you look at the end of
his plea, that shit say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
This, This plea agreement could be presented in the trial
and if any questions come up about this plea, however
they wrote it. If anything come about this, please you
must come testify truthfully about what you said in this plea.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
No nigga, look every one day, please said that except mine.
Every police said that except mine, and look nine, every
one of them. Nigga took a pleae in the beginning
of the trial.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Please said that. Duke Please said the same thing. Oh,
you ain't gotta get understand. Duke had to get understand
thee the week the case was over with. Dukee was
getting understanding that week. The week all this went on
and took out Please. At the end of the trial,
Duke was getting on the stand that week. Dude was
outside the courtroom, sitting on the bench waiting to get
called in and get on the stand.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
So how Douke did well, right man, Because he didn't
say why. He said it was a game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
He only said when y'all put Duke on the stand,
Duke can't send nobody to prison.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Duke plea only saying that a nigga told on him.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Okay, I'm right. Weren't nobody on that case but Duke.
Yet only thing Duke Please, I said was this nigga
Yat told on me, and I'm just agreeing to it
because if I don't agree, I'm gonna have to go
to trial and Yeat gonna get on a stand on me,
so he gotta take the plea. The thing I don't
respect about Yack is before we knew Yat told. When
Duke took the plea, I was pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
The narrows like that fuck a nigga due did We're wrong,
like damn, but my best friend, why do you do that?
I'm pushing that shit every day in trial. Every day,
Yack sent right here with me, Bro, every day. Yeah,
my little brother. I love this nigga to death. Bro,
I got that nigga on my house, the house, this
niggament living right now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
I pay for this house. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
You sitting right hell with me every day, Bro, fade
to face and this trial me. You understanding the last
three niggas on the trial. And look waitamn me, you
shanting a little queen la rud. We done got down
to five deep, sit deep, you know how he is.
And this motherfucker man back against the wall. Fuck that
now were rocking, Fuck that nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
The nigga left.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
We're gonna fuck that were rocking you sending this motherfucker
every day with me two years straight after them took
their plea, and you let me and you let me
paint this narrative to you shinning and you agreeing with
the narrative that Duke told on You were sitting back
in the in the back of this courtroom. When we
don't try out every day, I'm coming back in the courtroom.

(01:31:14):
Were coming back from in the courtroom when you go
when we when we leave out the courtroom, we go
in these little sales behind the courtroom. We send in
these seals. I'm in these cells. We're just talking like
me and like brothers. Damn, what the nigga do? I
can't do, Bro. I kind of can get it with you,
I mean with Gunnah, cause he done betrayed me before,
so I kind of get he can he'll betray me.
But I'm looking at Duke like dupe, my bed friend,

(01:31:35):
Duke build me the last twenty years, like you, my
bed friend.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
I'm a John Verssiule you from JOm bar Row.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Duke, my man's dupe. I ain't tattooed on me due
my man's gone too yat too d my boy. I
did my boys. You send in this motherfucker every day
and we in this in this cell, crying to each
other and talking like, damn boy, nigga really betrayed or
the nigga left for it? Bro, the nigga duke now

(01:32:01):
fucking come, Duke, please sound crazy, Duke please saying yes,
I got jumped on that Magic City. Yes, me and
Yat went to go retaliate and commit murder on the opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Yes. So I'm Jack sitting on a try with me.
So I'm looking at it like, Douke, you took that
please and said dad, hm, fuck nigga, you did that,
old on Jack. I'm sitting this motherfucker every day with Yat.
Every day, I'm sitting the motherfucker Yeat every day.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
I'm like, what damn they fuck nigga. Duke just crossed
you like that, brother, Nigga. Duke got you sit in
the prison.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Bro. You're going to prison yet, but Dukee, you got
your siting the prison. Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Damn Duke, they fuck nigga sitting in up in here
with me every day saying, man, fuck that nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Man fuck the nigga. Bro, we gotta got damn when
we get out of this ship, we make it out
this situation. Bro, we gotta go for and it's just us.
We ain't hanging with none of the nigga. Fuck with
the niggas. Fucked the niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Breddie Nigga told on you. Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Nigga did that, Bro, Damn every day we did this
ship every day for about just on the two year. Bro,
Who's gonna try it every day the whole time when
them nigga took the plea the whole time from that
day before, were just sitting in this motherfucker said, you're
going through it every day like damn.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
But he nigga did that knowing damn well the whole
time you told him. Duke. Duke took the plea because
you told on him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And if Duke didn't take the plea, you would have
had to get understand on Duke because that was your
your plea agreement was if Duke go to trial, you
gotta get on the stand and testifying that you want
Duke was going to go kill the niggas cause they
jon't don't do. You got to get on the stand
and say that because you said that in your please, sir,
if you get understanding and you say something different than that,
they gonna treat you like you want to him.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
You're going to prison. You got to get on there.
What I want to in the prison.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah, because he said this in his plea agreement. Yes door,
when Nutt died we pulled up on though he gave
us some money to lay low.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
We did this and did that. He said it in
the plea.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
But one thing I do respect him, I want to
him is when he was doing his plea, you know
you negotiating back and forth with the state.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
So when Montom was doing his plea, he was telling
them to take that out like here. Now, that ain't
what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
When when Nutt got killed, we didn't pull up that
thor up condo and he gave us some money to
lay low.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
That ain't what happened. Thud didn't pay us to care not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
He was saying, take all that shit out the plee
like hell na, But the state tricked him like we
ain't taking it out the plea. But you can agree
to it now, and when you get understand, you can
speak your truth. So he like, y'all sure, because he
know if I get understand and say some opposite of
what I'm saying in this, I can go to jail.
So are y'all sure that I ain't gonna go to
jail if I get understand to speak my truth? They
put they just wrapped him in the bad. They just

(01:34:24):
wrapped him up, wrapped him up like a gift. Yeah,
you can get on they stand and say whatever you
got to say. But you got to say this in
his plea. So that's why he was understand That's why
I want to him like, nah, Like that's why the
judge like, so when you said this in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
His plea, you saying that that ain't really what happened.
And more to him was like, nah, that ain't really
what happened. And I told them that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
They need to change this in my plea, but they
said they can't change it in the plea. I gotta
just said it when.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
I'm on the stand.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
So how would it God damn be able to do
what he did, like go up damn just like because
he wasn't he told in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
So he all he's telling led to him not being
on the indictment. All he's telling led to him not
being in trouble with us. He not on the case
when the case started with twenty eight of us, one
down one of them. So it ain't no matter what.
He get on in the court room and say he
can't go to jail because he's not a part of
the indictment.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
He not a part of the case. Here here here
unindicted cocy spirit. He not on the case.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
So he can get in the court room and say, yeah,
I killed nothing, I killed this nigga, I did this,
I did that. Can't nothing happened to him because he
already signed his He's already signed his community. When you
when you signed an immunity, you can say whatever you
want to say, understand yeah, and that can get no.
Can't nothing happen to you when you say what you
want to say. That's the point of community. When you

(01:35:40):
sign this paper, you gonna tell the truth and nothing
can happen to you. You can't be locked. You can't
get in trouble for saying whatever you want to say.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
What bade them give him that because they thought he
was gonna get understand and say what he said in
his interviews.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Okay, they thought he was gonna get understanding and say yeah, SHD.
So they were banking the whole case on wood it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Yeah, he would lead. He was the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Them folk was in shambles when that nigga acting like
he wasn't gonna testify. Remember the first time he got
in there. Understand he like, God, damn, man, I ain't testifying.
The judge like you sure, He's like, yeah, I ain't testifying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Take me to jail. I sit in jail.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
But when you when you don't, when they order you
to get on a stand and you don't get on
the stand, it's two things can happen. You can get
locked up until the judge want to let you out.
You can get locked up for twenty one days, or
you can get locked up for the duration of the trial.
Whatever trial you involved in, you can get locked up.
So normally trials be five days. So if a nigga
get on the stand in a normal trial and don't

(01:36:35):
and don't agree, he'll go to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Jail for five days because you got to get out
of jail once.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
The trial is over. But this case, he wanted to
do it right. He like, boy, this shit gonna be
another two year sitting in jail. Two year.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
He wanted to do it. He wanted to be like
I ain't doing that. By the first time he came in,
he like, I ain't testifying for that. I ain't testifying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I lied. So he he got locked up. He was
locked up for like four five days.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
I ain't never really heard you say no bullshit about
wood it, nah, because not even to speak on like
a certain community. Woo did like take medicine. Woo did
like you know what I'm saying, he throwed off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
He off of it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
So I always look at anything he do like a kid,
like like my son, like he gonna do. He don't
got the the functioning brain that we got would take
real medicine. So I ain't even like you got a
lot of sense to me. Yeah, but that's just come
with like you just learning what to say when you're
going through life. He's just learning things when you're going

(01:37:32):
through life. You know what I'm saying to the craziest
niggas in the world, always the ones who got the sense. No,
but ain't crazy man, that nigga take real medicine. So
he openly did what's wrong. Definitely don't respect what he did,
but I respect what he's doing though you could see
he he different. That's that's what I respect like you,
I don't even I don't even him because, like I
be seeing him doing his little ship on the internet. Way,

(01:37:53):
he's just like talking to kids, or he's just trying
to do things. He goes to the college, he's just trying.
Like I don't respect nigga's like right, I don't respect
certain niggas because you'll get out of jail and still
be doing the same thing if you That's why I say,
if you tell it just going to make you some
gospel music going to do, just get out the way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
That's what keep you awake, That's what keep you away
from cerain shit. Just get out the way. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
I don't respect no wreck, but I respect if you
tell you can't portray no street niggas, you gotta get
out of it. You gotta get out the way. Once
you do that, I agree with that. You're not running
around at like no gangs. You're not doing that that
no more, you ain't doing none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
All that shit is dead man. You told it's dead.
I think he's for real about trying to change it.
Like I understand that. It's just like I think so too,
because he got he got them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
He crazy enough to the point where he don't got
to change, and he still won't be at fault because
he really crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
He really throw it off. But the fact that you're
crazy and you're still trying to change, it's like, I say.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Left, why you let Roscoe get on there and stir
that pot? Though you gotta think, Bro, I can't talk
to certain niggas. But it's just like with Roscoe. That's
my man. He just loved me, you know how that
shit go. Like he loves he loves all us, everybody
who's on this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
He love all the nigga. He's just upset too. He's
just man. He loved all these nigga, Bro. He just
the same way.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
I was in there in terrogation room, trying my best
to get him out of trouble, or trying my best
to make paint a picture of him like man, hell, and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
I shot a real shot. I ain't do that. He's
just doing the same shit in net with me, Like
he's just looking at he know me, He like, man, hell,
it ain't nothing of that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
I ain't no shot a man shot against I'm telling you,
you know, a man, not even against shot a man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
I respect it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
It's just the same shot I was trying to do
with him in the taioration room. He's just doing the
same thing with me, like he's just trying to take
over me. You know that That's just how it go, bro.
When you're a man in the real heart with a
real heart, brother, you're standing on real business and everything
just ain't no a chest move to you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
You gonna have foults, You're gonna have hiccup, You're gonna
have certain ship because you're just a real person.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I just don't like to see the city in the
climate that it's in. It's like two divided, bro. And
then they trying to say, like you the head leader
of dividing, dividing the whole city, like all your beefs
divide this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
This nigga thought this, nigga, this like how you speak
on that. See.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
The thing the thing that made me not saying that
ullo is because when I first got locked up, the
narrative that that the DA was pushing was he divided
the city. He made all these people beef, which is
a complete lie. I mean, niggas get together. I stopped

(01:40:27):
a lot of beefing. I stopped a lot of niggas
from getting beef. I only had one beef my whole life,
and it wasn't even my fault. I stopped a lot
of niggas from beefing. I got Whim and Savage on
the phone to stop whatever could have happened with them.
I got niggas on the phone, Hey bro, we brothers,
fuck that. We ain't talking about no internet shit and
what's going on in the world. We're talking about real

(01:40:48):
life niggas. Both of them gonna get on can't get
on your motherfucking platform and say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Yes, that nigga got both of us on the phone
and told us, man your nig fuck nigga, Bro, we
ain't beefing brother, the said Lina Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
Everybody in this rap game, everybody in the industry all
over the world. Look at Atlanta like the hometown of
niggas who stick together. So that's what I'm on. Everybody,
ask Wham as Savage. I got them on the phone
and stop they beef and other niggas. I got a
lot of niggas on the phone to talk about a
lot of shit. I got goddamn little Key and all
I run on the phone. Hey bro, Me and go out,

(01:41:22):
motherfucking big homes in this shit man, in this rap game. Man,
we got themn we real niggas, man, we big homes
of the rap community, Like, we ain't doing that all.
I run you up on the Gucci Ki, you up
on me, y'all niggas, he ain't doing that e shit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
No mm hm.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
When Nine visits saying oohs avert like theyf goinnna get
into a may y'all, Nick called me we ain't doing it?
How what and what aspect? What in my entire career
that's been up on a fucking microscope, At what point
in my career can you or anybody in this world
honestly say he stirred this pipe?

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
They can say I'm glad, yeah that they can say
the shit you telling Baby about p is like trying
to break up a family.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
From my point of view, the family was. It was
never a family.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
From my point of view, just being real, I told
Baby in a lure inside the strip club, don't sign
that deal with Pete after I told Peter sign him,
because I thought people just gonna do the right thing.
When I told Peter signed a little Baby, I end
up finding out all the shit about the megals, what
he did with the Migos and shit like how like
the ownership and all that shit. I found out all
that then I tell Wayam like, hell Noah, don't sign

(01:42:26):
with Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Hell Nah, hell Noah, don't sign him.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
And in the side of the club, in the strip
club where we in this motherfucker be throwing ones and
looking at females. I'm in this motherfuck having a heart
to heart with little one with Wham my little brother. Hey,
hell nah, don't sign with him. Hell no, not even
saying pe no bad nigga, none of that. But it's
just like you ain't. He ain't my type of the
man what I view as a man. He got some
aspects that I view as a man. You know what
I'm saying. He take cast his family, He do what

(01:42:50):
he need to do for as far as his close family,
he's real family. He takes cast real for me, take
cast kid. He'll follow to his sons and his daughter,
your dad. I look at I respect that part, but
like I respect his business part too because I'm a businessman,
but I just do business different, so I don't do
I wouldn't do business like him, Like I went signed
Wham and because we knew before he signed WAM, so

(01:43:15):
we always family like like I know your son, Like
then my little brother. You think I will ever in
my life consider a little one, my little brother, if
I signed him and take one hundred percent of his masters,
one percent of certain shit, like any percent you think
I would do that?

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
It's my little brother, me personally in it though. This
shit business, I know, but get Sun.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
I understand that. But a lot of shit is fair
because he mastermind in his music and he know. Rappers
don't get rich off of music. Rappers get rich off
of their shows. They endorsement. They don't get rich off streams.
We get rich off shows, endorsements and masters. Rappers get
the last money.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
The rappers to be okay with the master money nigga
like Swiss Beat, Missy Elliot Timbling.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
They got rich at an older age. They got rich
off of their masters. They was able to sell their masters.
You see what I'm saying and get a bank roll.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
That's we know that. P know that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
But we watched people in the baby like motherfuck No
he didn't. Because you gotta understand, Wam took off soon
as he started. He didn't even get a chance to
spend no real money on baby. WAM took off off
to his first song. He the first song he put out.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
With trippers like the third song, and we had that
because Man Wam went on tour that Nigga left them.
Was on a little tour, a little run.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Yeah, but he was. He was already doing freestyle. Yeah,
he did that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
What the name of the song was, huh not for
my dog freestyle? Option money was option yeah yeah yeah.
And then this ship had the ship was uh Marlow Marlow,
and then that god damn, what's his name? But freesty
was out. When all that was out, Freestyle was out too.
Freestyle was just his biggest song at that point. Yeah,
all that shit came out around the same time. All

(01:45:08):
that shit probably came out the same year. I'm saying
that to say he didn't have to spend money on WAM.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
He spent money on WAM just so he can have
leverage to take a certain part of the cake and
say I spent money. He didn't all my business, man,
I'm telling you, bro, man and man. I tell people
to his face, just man and man, no, no no
problem with you, no ill feeling, no nothing. I just
tell you, man to man, face to face, you didn't
have to spend no money on WAM. I spent a

(01:45:35):
lot of money on Gunner because it took Gunna a
few years to blow. I put that nigga song me,
Trascott and Guca all type of shit, Guca Gucci done
on the phone, like who the hell of brother? I'm like,
they've gone my new artist. I've got there, Trascott. Folk
don't know who this nigga is. They don't know him,
like I put a lot of push behind it took
him four five years to blow.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Wam blue first year rapping. How did you spend any money?
I know the real business.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
I ain't gone'bout for whick because you gotta understand most
of us just regular street niggas. So we looking at
it like, damn but he nigga, But he nigg going
back to that road. Rust buy a nigga doing any eating?

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Man? This shit thirty five hundred dollars a day. Man,
that's in thirty five hundred. You have made fifty million
off of migos and whem. Of course you supposed to
buy wharing a Roe's worst truck.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
It's his money. Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
I bought Gunner a roll Rosse truck off of my money,
not no money I made off him. I ain't never
make a dollar off Gunner. That's him.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Never.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
This is my little brothers. I not spent mes on
this nigga. We just were still getting money. I'm still
getting money, so I ain't never tripping. I ain't never
get to the point where I was like, damn, I
need the money. I was just still getting money. God
was just still blessing me with money. So I ain't
even never have a chance to be fucked up and
try to get some money from Gunna.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
I never did that. I always helped them. He always
put his money up and had and had to call
them me to get money. Always.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
I never made a dollar off of this nigga bro.
And then my paperwork, I don't even remember my deal
with him. I think my deal say something like.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Fifty percent master of fifty percent of all money that
come in all revenue. My deal with Gunner, I probably
got a fifty percent of everything that ever came out
because I had a bullshit manager at the time. I
had a fucked up manager at the time when I
made I created my my label, So my manager was
one of them type of niggas like Pe like money
Humeger motherfucker, like the nigga man' the nigga FM New York.

(01:47:26):
He was one of them niggas. It was just like
a money Hongger nigga, which which not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
I respect him.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
He he made me a lot of money too, but
he didn't want who structured my deals, like my paperwork
when you signed me. He didn't want who structured the ship.
So I signed Gunner back then when he had when
it was when my label was about in his structure.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Well, just your way'll do it be because you're doing
betting out your other nigga doing business.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
I understand that I am tripping like I ain't tripping
on the business. He signed me goals from Gucci. That's business.
You don't know them now that you and Wayam Big
Homent is best friends. Wam is your little brother. Before
Wam was rapping, Wam little bro like being coming around you,
been doing some shit, being at your studio, been doing shit,

(01:48:08):
just gambling before he was rapping like this real family,
this little bro, I'm telling you. Him and Wam was
like like brothers. All us was brothers. Well, me and
Wam brother and Peter and Wallem brother. You know what
I'm saying. I never really looked at Pele like a brother.
I always looked at him like a business man, like
what's up my boy? Like you know what I'm saying.
I ain't never looked at him like like family. Cause

(01:48:29):
we in business. We damned that competition not to me,
because I fuck with your artists. I did songs with
me Goes when I was living they win. I did
song with Wham.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Before he made music. I paid for wam first studio session.
I know, fucking pee I pay for that. I pay
for his first song. I did the first feature with
him me when he was just a regular young street
nigga gambling.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I seen that. I'm telling you, this is all facts.
This ain't nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
He can get on here and twist and lie say
this ain't no way I could say, Lione, say this
is all facts.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
You didn't have to spend no money. You didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
He didn't have to spend no money, bro, just me
knowing the business, me being a boss man of CEO
in this business. You didn't have to spend no money
on he blew too fast. If anything, you probably spent
goddamn half of me. And that was just because you
wanted to, not because you were trying to make him
blow that your nigga blew up so motherfucking faan, Bro,
you ain't even have time to spend no money.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
That niggas was bro.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
That nigga was doing show that was brou niggas been rapping,
saying two thousand and six, self, little boy, I blew
up twenty and fifteen. We spent a lot of this
shit trying to blow Wam blew up first year rapping.
At what point could you spend money?

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
How? How? I don't know their business. I'm just saying
telling it to I ain't saying their business. I'm just saying,
like I said, I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
I don't know the musical business. I know I'm a CEO.
He ain't have to spend no money on when he
spent money on Wham. But I feel like he did
it strategically.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
I feel like he did it so niggas like you
and niggas like us, that's real, that's regular niggas, that
street niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
I can feel like, try to help your niggaslow.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Because he already had a label already had a machine,
so like damn, they just push out the machine. He
blew up, but Rick said, we can say he blew
up fast because of it. He had the machine too.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Off the rip. I think he had the street machine
before that. I think he did.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
I'm telling you that Nigga been getting ten thousand and
fifteen thousand lights on his picture when.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
He was a regular person. Yeah yeah, no, no, no,
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
You know, I be wanting to give Pe the cookie
because I respect some of the bening he do. Some
of the shit he did, I respect it. I be
wanting to give him the cookie. But I'm just a man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
B I'm a real name little now. I ain't saying
he don't. Yeah yeah, yeah, I ain't saying that he
Don't'm just putting that out there. I know, like this
shit crazy. I just fuck all that. How do we
get the city back to I feel like the bedtime, I.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Say, y'all, nigga had maneen't. God damn, you know, because
by the tilling, y'all, Nigga really hit that somewhere over
Goddamn you rooted it was you rooted prolem Goddamn baby,
God damn.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Who else with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Uh uh. It was just like it was looking like Atlanta.
What that video was atl They send me the song
to get on the song atl song with Marlow and
God damn Woam. That ship was looking like Yeah, the
young niggas got it, They got the city. They got
it like like you know, cause that was right after
who had your future We'll say future and and you

(01:51:21):
know your era future you rich home and all that,
but it was like you were bringing because you right
there with me, young nig like I'm bringing a new era.
That's the baby they God Damn Marlow, the uh Rallo
just all that problems everybody like fuck that we were united,
Like how we even get back for the city to
be that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
What I want you to what I want you to
think about. It is who who united all them nigga together?
Slane did it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Did so? How we do it? Then? How we do
that now? Like how we do that? I think.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
At least to the point the where it don't be
no no bush because cause yeah, because all this shit
is going on, this talking, the ain't gonna do them
with build egos niggas. Obama teach him, hey man, you
gotta stand on the ego. That's why I don't like.
I don't you gonna never see me condemning nigga on
these podcasting brother, because I already know how this shit go.
Niggas ready to go out bad behind the ego and
they name so nigga. I you when I first came

(01:52:21):
to shit, I fucked these niggas. Don't wanna do that
on you know what I'm saying. But now it's like
I ain't on that, bro. I'm trying to cause I
already know brid's like, how there y'all nigga beat these
folk and thank these folk happy y'all beat them?

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
I know they ain't. Brother, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Whoever the energy whatever, nobody like you can't bring the
energy back, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Niggas can't do that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Niggas ask going like when that boy fell out their motorcycle,
they first they put the uh the young nigga?

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Would it when you fell out of the motorcycle?

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
They put it. They just put out the whatch name
at first, him laying on the ground. If I pray
for that young nigga, like, man, I hope he ain't
got shot. I hope he all right, hope he ain't
nobody shot this boy, Cause if it'd be some man
niggas going to jail for good facts for good, like
fuck all, it ain't finna be no more of that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Maybe ship ain't gonna be them other people better. Yeah,
so what the fuck I know niggas? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
I don't know, Man, I don't know if nigga I'm
too old, Bro, I'm for to saiven. I ain't trying.
I can't go sitting that motherfucker. So I'll be trying
to tell these niggas, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
You for save here. Yeah you know, I'm just saying, Bro,
I ain't trying learn my lesson. Bro. I was at
I was at us.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
The thing I don't like about what Rollo said is
why is you painting that picture knowing that I'm the
reason a lot of niggas cooled each other and the
DA just painted the same picture. That's police shit to me. Bro,
you can't get on the internet and say, for a nigga,
you really divided the city. How how the hell did
that divide the city? I throw the city together. I

(01:53:46):
was at us with Luca ask luc depict size no ask, Yeah,
for sure, side.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
So that's divine though. No, because if a nigga on
the fuck with you, niggas ain't fuck with you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
No, that's not the vine, brother, because you gotta know that.
You gotta know the band ground. You gotta know what's
happening behind the behind the media. You gotta have when men,
when men Luther was at us and and the hype
in the in the in the hype of the beef,
absolute you what I did him at the hype of

(01:54:16):
brother shit, don't got nothing to do with me or
you Let make a song. I don't want no smart
with you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
I tweeted it. Go on Twitter. It's on my Twitter. Still, No,
it's not say it could be sill man.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
If a nigga get on the Internet to say you're
six and you're a point, they got fought, yo. Ho
If a nigg get on the Internet to say all that,
and I get on the internet and and and and
go up onto his if I if I reply to
him on the Internet and say, my nigga, I don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
No beef, but you know none of that. Let's do
a song, bro. That's not trolling. I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
I ain't saying what trolling. It could be considered yeah,
but absolute you yourself and I bit you. He gonna
say it win troller. Oh you're saying because you know
he knew he can't take it. Some about the people,
for sure, I ain't. People were talking about us. Real
what I'm saying, he know you already had done. Reached
out to him for you and put that up and
you said to him and in public, I said, in
public at the hype of it, I'm not known for that, dog,

(01:55:08):
no one for standing here ground a nigga say somebody, man, nigga,
fuck you what I'm on that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
You know I'm gonna that what I'm not known for
that nigga. I stopped from doing that and said, bro,
let do a song.

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
I did him on Instagram too. We did him on Instagram.
I'm like, like, man, nigga, let do a song. I
don't want no bee with you. Bro, it's gonna doing
a song. It's gonna be bigger than beefing. I'm telling you,
I could bring you up to my level. I'm telling
you I DM him this.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
But you know we in the hype of the beef
But don't nobody know that. I know that, but I ain't.
I don't care to express it neither, because I'm a
real man. I don't do shit for certain reasons. I
do it because what I feel like this me. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Now we get to the point where I'm doing the
interview with you. Now, I'm telling the world, like that's
what I'm making a point. When you said, how Carroll
do that, I'm saying, I'm showing you how he could.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
Know because I don't have a conversation with him too.
I don't have coming tATu you w rulough too many
time before he ran it. I had too many conversations
with he was was. I wasn't even tripping on him
rating because they ain't got nothing to do with me.
I'm mad that you did what wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Look at you like a real nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
But they don't got them to do with me, So
I ain't tripping. I ain't gonna fuck with you, but
I ain't got They don't got them to do with me,
so I ain't tripping.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
You see what I'm saying. But a nigga came out
the same nigga who said that, like how what's her name? Did?

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
He said that man such such ain't tell on me.
That's what Roscoe said, right, I ain't the listening. Yeah
that Roscoe said, the nigga shown who niggas saying told
on Ralo came and said the same ship like, Bro,
they they must trying to put some shit together. Brother like,
basically ain't telling on me. So but nah, that ain't
basically ain't telling me what he's saying. He didn't tell

(01:56:46):
rale I say, why would he be on the phone
with the nigga this nigga, This nigga got a dog
who k why would he be on the phone with Rolo.
I'm just asking, I'm prelad to why would he be
on the phone Raulo acting like nigga ain't telling me?

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
If I nigga, you can't call me if you told
on me. This a difference. This is the difference.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
You got a man who I ain't really got going
on in the world. So he damn there, gotta go
for certain ship. He dem there because should Rollo is
the nigga in the hood. He a nigga who getting
the money he getting in the hood. He done that,
got to take care of you, even though he you
locked up for some ship for some ship that that
that could possibly have something to do with him or
some ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
He a nigga like you. You then got to just
go with him. You don't got no other help. That's one.
That's that's one number one. But yes, but that they
ain't they ain't. There ain't facts though that just that
could be. I'm just saying that could be.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
He could be when it came to certin niggas, okay,
like and then we're gonna speak on the real facts.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
We ain't gonna speak on what some could be the
real facts. Is you have paperwork where you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Yes he said this, Yes he said this, Yes he
do this, Yes, you got paperwork on you. He got
a big as book that ain't in that book.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
That nigga and got so much sh Still and listener,
I don't even care to do all this type of
shit in the interview.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
We just we can fast forward.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Man the man rollo. I don't even give a fuck
about who he told on. I know one hundred percent
he was gonna take the stand on me and Luchen.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
I know, nigga. That's a fact on my freedom, my freedom,
that's a fact, right, I'm my freedom. Fact. He agreed
to get on my get on the stand on my case.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
Whatever he knew about me and Luca beef, if you
knew something I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
He ain't know that he was in jail, done that
the whole time we were beefing. He just you just
squeal him. B you're just in the bit.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
You just trying to get out of jail. You a
lot of us are punk as pet ad weed niggas.
Sit down, Sit down like you did all this extra ship,
all this extra top. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
We I know for a fact you were gonna take
the stand on my case and Luci case. All right,
we've been fast forward this ship. How do we stop
giving a fuck about what goes on in real street niggas?

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
Is nigga nails? Like, how do we stop giving a
fuck about the street ship? That's all I'm saying. Like,
I think we got assistant in the nigga, But how
do we stop giving them for because to some people
the ship were talking about this igma.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
To some people, yeah, some people, but not where we're from.
We uphole some ship though it ain't even upholding. It's
about manhood.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
We mean, bro, we ain't ain't gonna gonna do that.
No mean, but don't still have the conversation with you though?

Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
How long is that we make a trillion dollars? But
still those like still would you look at much like?

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
But you ain't if Eli muschuck a young girl is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
You're gonna look at it like man that nigga got
damn nigga make bes out But nigga mindn't mind the
whole nother place.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
No, nigga, right is right wrong, it's wrong. Congo fuck
what you made right is right wrong? It's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Well cha ration b I swear to God, Bro, I
don't got no problem with Rollo. I'm one of the
first niggas in the city that for that did something,
that did any type of fun with me, and Roo
had real smoke. I got on the phone roller when
he was in jail, like, hey, what's up, nigga?

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Good?

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
I'm praying you get out, Bro. Woo, now you get
out to push your fama like, I'm all for helping somebody, Bro.
I'm telling you, Bro, that's how I get this. What
makes me happy. Helping the nigga is what make me happy,
not even being getting millions. But y'all nigga leading the
game though, Bro, like we went leading the game like
you one of the biggest niggas in the game.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
Bro. I understand.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
It's like you gotta you gotta kind of sell a
president for the young niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like,
all right, cool that that cool?

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
That what we know? Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
This all this ship you talking about come from trauma.
You saying that, man, but it comes from trauma.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
You just said.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Let's say you was just a kid, didn't know nothing
until your brother got killed. That shit fucked you up
in front of your fail like damn.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Fuck that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Then then murder came to your mind. Then this shit
came out. Then the way a nigga live and all
this shit, that ship is untreated, some untreated ship, Bro,
the way a nigga think it's untreated. That's all I'm saying.
I ain't saying that a nigga. Nobody wrong, nobody know.
Fuck me, everything that we all went through and going through,
it's a trick back.

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
I'm already doing that. That's why I don't go against niggas.
I don't go against niggas.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Bro. I try my best to put my best foot forward. Bro.
I always do. Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
You know how much shit I could talk to you
about right now. Brother, you're gonna say, damn, but these
nigga is fuck niggas. I don't care to talk about
that shit because we just move forward. I'm happy. Fuck,
I'm running around living my life. Why I think I'm happy?
I'm running around living my life. Bro, I'm doing what
I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Got everything you want with you ain't happen, Bro, because
a happy nigga don't even get like you passionate about
this shit you talking about, Bro, and you so far
removed from it, not to say, a niggas supposed to
turn into something else like, Bro, I'm out the game,
no scrape, no scars, but I ain't. I'm still banking,
but I'm something else. Yeah, but you gotta think what
if you can't even.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
Entertain it, Bro, Nigga can't even send me certain shit
on Instagram. I don't entertain certain shit. I don't care
about this shit. I ain't never been. This is the
smallest I've ever been in the world. Bro, to like
me being a real nigga. Bro, I won't do now
that on pillow talk. I don't do none of that ship.
But I'm a real man. Play what I'm saying, of course,
I'm just this my first time ever even going through
ship like this. I'm telling you, bron't deal with you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
Speaking on it like it's all. It's always five sides
to the story.

Speaker 4 (02:02:13):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
You know what I'm saying. But but I'm a crash Bro,
I ain't gonna do nothing like that's the course, though
I know it ain't like it. It looked like it,
but not for you. I'm just saying for the whole thing,
you can't say, who want to crash crack? That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
Crashing is gonna have to be a nigga want to
do something me, I'm not listen. I don't respect certain
ship that niggas do, but I respect life and I
respect the air that we breathe earth. I respect everything
that we got our nigga. My son lio me MANM.
I take my son in school every morning, Bro, I
ain't nothing be that. My son going to school in

(02:02:47):
a double low every day. Don't nothing beat that, bro.
My son a real motherfucker scientist, a genius, smart as
a motherfucker. Bro, don't nothing beat that. Like every all
my kids, you were with me the whole summer except
one of my kids. All my kids are with me
the whole summer, running around doing family shit. Nigga got
a house.

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
Everywhere we go.

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
I'm telling you, on be Bro did the first time
ever even like understanding what's going on in the world
like real life, Nigga, I was just so happy and
just so blind to like betrayal and niggas doing whole
shit that I would never do.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
I'm just now getting to that point in my life. Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
I'm telling you, you gotta understand why it's like hard
for me to just go forward and just like attract
the masses by doing some shit.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Harder than impossibly two different things, though I know that
harder Nigga was. It was hard for you to goddamn
become a menionaire, but it wasn't impossible. That's a fact.
So hard and impossible two different things you can do it.
Like you know what I'm saying, like, how do a
nigga Nigga first step? Nigga gotta like Bron, They ain't
come trying to be no therapist or that, But I'm saying, nigga,
first step niggatta acknowledge what he really going through. What

(02:03:56):
I had to do, Bro, I had the knowledge Like
damn man, everybody gonna think how you think you cut different?

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
I had to tell myself that every person is.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
Cut different and why we got a different fingerprints different
got damn on how they when they when they identify it,
uh tea dimal. We all got different shit brother to
be identified, so we ain't gonna think them think alike.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
But you take it like you said early.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
On that nigga Ma Mama raised us to love, love, love,
so always trying to find people to love, like you
had a whole bunch of niggas that never had launching
for each other and trying to put them in one crew.
How they they're gonna be launched lawyer to each other.
That niggas Movi he a niggas, movie a niggas. But
you love everybody that ain't gonna work nigga to jail nigga,
Like Brog, you ain't even mother that fucking nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Am I right wrong? You just said it the first beginning,
like I've just always been looking for friends of love,
looking for this person love, look at this person love.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
But nigga, the hardest wall get a nigga zipped up
and the end cause that what your reaction off of
using your heart gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Make you seem like a fuck me because you speaking
from your heart. I'd have been through that ship.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
I'm gonna say that what you're going through, but I've
been through that like thinking like I'm so passionate about
how I what I stand on, Like how y'all don't
get it, but some nigga don't get it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Now I don't get it right, you said I don't
get this line. You get it, brud.

Speaker 3 (02:05:18):
Just you gotta that's why, just like you gotta understand, like, Bro,
I did so much shit, bro, just like I raided
the nigga, but I raidy niggas to like honored life.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
Be mean, I raised a nigga to be a man.

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
Bro, Like, I can't go for what you're saying because
I know I played a part in raising him, and
I ain't never did no whole ship to them. None
of these niggas will ever be able to get on
your podcast and say I did no, but I still
raise you still, nigga. I was grown when you met me,
but you still raised me in certain ways. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Certain ways I look up to you, and you ain't
never got no money together. Nigga. I raised some of
these niggas and we got money together. That make it
even deeper. We stand on Satin Morris and principle.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Bro, When I speak on Info into Gunner or Pluto Wam,
when I speak on him before this situation, when I
speak on him.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
Guess what I say to them?

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Oh yeah, you know Sharlack got alight saying shot is
sent on that bunk right now for not tell her.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
We instill that shit in each other. Bro. You bro,
how fuck is you gonna like yet? Man?

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
The man?

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
How the hell can you go against the green. And
that's why I look at niggas like you could. Guess what.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
I respect you because you don't. You don't take nigga sides.
You don't do certain thing. You tell us what's right
and what's wrong. Because you're an older street nigga. You
are o g You tell us.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Us right and what's wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
I live all these morals with niggas who who who
Who came niggagame when we bro, I teach all these
all these niggas do some shit towards me. Bro, everyone niggas,
anybody you can name what we've been talking about in here.
The nigga talk to the holes about me. The nigga
do all type of shit. I still have lord them, nigga,
I still my lord of yr nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Fuck that man. That's just how you. When they come
to girls, it's a right. I love them. That's just
how you are. That's you how you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
You know what I'm saying. A nigga gonna carry that
shit forever. A nigga gonna try to heal like that's
all I'm saying. Now, I get what you're saying. I
get what you're saying. How you feel, that's your perspective.
We do perspective. So you give me your perspective on
how you feel and how you was ready to shit
you stand on. But how do a nigga move forward?
Cause nigga like that ship. You can see that ship
consuming the nigga. What a music at line? You just
play with some all that shit? Why that shit ain't

(02:07:39):
not what fuck is a.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Nigga thinking about? Because I just don't got my twin, Bro,
don't got my friends.

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
Bro Ja fucked up full up right. The nigga who
I be with every day, I don't got no no
more brother. Fucked up bro, Yeah, bro don't know. I
don't know what to do, bro, Like and I ain't
lose no nigga to a tragic or now I lost
a nigga to betray her. Bro, You signing that one
piece of paper, signing your initiations on this one piece
of paper could get me a life sitting my nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:08:05):
You like what come on, Bro, I get a light
sending all this piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (02:08:09):
You signed, Broja cause you're trying to get home fast
or you're just trying to get to a whole?

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Are you just doing a certain thing? Ain't, Bro? And
you already betrayed a nigga before O Bro a piece
of paper.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
Nigga gonna let a piece of paper in all this ship?
Nigga We men, Bro, we brought up nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Ain't no nigga in the world making me go get
gonna no nigga bro Yah, nigga what Yeah, You've been
around me ten years. No one you told on our
other brother? You told on do were you told on
Do Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
When the nigga was shoot at you little who I
helped you hide? You ain't had nothing to do with nothing.
I gave you money to with your family and your
baby mama and your and they mama's and inter them
in hotels and do this ship just to help you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:05):
I know you ain't have nothing to do with nonhing
of that ship. The police know you ain't having nothing
to do none of this ship. But the niggas in
the street didn't know though. It don't matter that it's up.
It's a what at this point. At this point, it's
a war. How'd your kids? Hi'd your wife?

Speaker 3 (02:09:17):
Nigga go to war? Because you've been standing on that.
This whole beef started to cussing you. The whole ship
started because of little Wooden.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Fuck nigga, he how the fuck you're gonna tell? Nigga,
this ship started cuseing you, Yam. The whole case, bro,
this ship because of you, my boy, the whole case
because of Wooden. Some sucking ship this nigga did to
nut them some sucker shit. We just being real niggas

(02:09:47):
and your brothers are standing behind you. Fuck that you
did some suck ass ship. But why did nigga buy?
I fuck with you, madam? Now you got Shanny yet
me do and everybody else who's who got damn on
our side?

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
You got all this all us going through ship because
of your own ass that you did on your own time,
and you folded, you told you did the worst. I'd
rather you tell the ops while I live. They tell
the police, nigga, we go to prison forever, Nigga. I
rather die and go to prison.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
You've been off telling the ops. Well I met, bro, However,
what the fuck you mean? Move forward? Man?

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
You want me just get out of jail like these
puts saying a nigga and just go forward and don't
speak on stick.

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
Just go forward and live my life. J wood to do. Yeah,
I got blessed. They let me out of jail. I can't.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
Two years trying to be healed, brother, you end up
talking how fuck I'm a hell in the midst of
the fire?

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
How I'm a hell? Ain't fire? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
Tell me how basically what you you saying? You you
trying to block out a lot of shit. You suppressing
that what they call it. They're trying to go still,
trying to be y'all thug at the same time, trying
to hold up an image basically.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Being a real nigga. Ain't holding no image. I'm just
saying image of Ain't this in real life. I'm saying
that you ain't hurt though the image I'm not being
hurt some I don't even I ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Even know image because the nigga being hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
Yeah, but I ain't never even woke up until right
now talking to you and noticed that I will hurt.
I ain't never even knew that. I just thought I
was just running around just living life. Like thought this
shit gudget made me a happy person.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
I'm just happy. I think I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
That's why I just told you early when you said,
why you ain't just doing what you sposed to do
when you got out of jail, what I know you
to do?

Speaker 1 (02:11:28):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
Why he ain't just being Michel Jackson Nigga, I thought
I was. I thought I I'm just chilling.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
I still just wake up some days.

Speaker 3 (02:11:34):
To get in my feelings about someta shit because I
feel like Gunner you, my brother, I love you to
tell nigga why you ain't gave me an explanation. You
not to get in touch with me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:45):
Nigga. My daddy put me in your group text. I
don't even want you to have my n My daddy put.

Speaker 3 (02:11:49):
Us in the group text. I called my members like,
who the hell number they see him? He got damn
made some phone call?

Speaker 1 (02:11:57):
You come back? That's gun to them. I tell my daddy, man,
what the fuck would you put me on test with
the nigga? For bro? What the fuck you got going on?
Because he knowing too, I need to hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:12:08):
I think, I think, I think, but guess what's gone
and didn't take advantage of that. I wouldn't even probably
care to hit the ship anyway, because I feel like
once you once you break a rule from your manhood,
once you raped, or once you turn gay.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
And I don't got nothing to against gay people. It's
gay people that work for me.

Speaker 3 (02:12:29):
But when I look at you a certain way, if
I look at you, if I meet you and you gay,
it's like okay. If I meet you and you portraying
that you a man, and you and you're not gay,
I don't got none against gay people.

Speaker 1 (02:12:41):

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
If I put if you portraying a certain thing, you
deceive them, right, I can't look at you the same.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
I ain't mad at you can for man gay? So what?
Everybody whoever gay, they gay? So what, nigga, I don't
got no problem with gay people.

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
Gay people work for me right now, I'm damning there
around gay people every day because they work for me.

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
I don't got no problem with them. I don't even
I don't hate that I even brow this shit. I
don't want you to take it out by I even
broke it up because I don't even want the al
g t P. I don't even want that community to
even think that I'm gonna gainst him over with Y'all'm.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
Saying, dl bro that what you're speaking of.

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Like if I look at you like a man and
we fucking bitches together, girls together, and we're doing certain ship,
and I look at you in a man like like,
well that nigga, and then I find out you gay,
it ain't really. Now you can say to me, I'm
gonna just look at you like you broke a man cold.
You broke a cold that men with backbones stand up to.
You broke that cold. You can talk, you can say

(02:13:33):
whatever you want to say, you broke a man cold.
I don't look at you the same, but in real life,
I don't even want to hear what you gotta say.
But you still supposed to be a real nigga. Say
I'm finna said, I don't give for what you want
to hear or not. I'm finna say it to make
sure you know. And that's why I'm doing his interview.
He might not be one of anyone. I'm just being
stir the pop that ain't staring the pope telling saying

(02:13:53):
get on the internet and saying how you feel about
betraying your brother?

Speaker 1 (02:13:57):
How the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Staring the pipe? How you ain't getting on the internet, saying,
oh this nigga did this, this nigga did it, didn't
do who?

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
And bring the other?

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
You ain't doing all that you get on the internet,
and saying even if you ain't on the internet, my
daddy put us in text message.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
So you can't even get do no interview in the future,
in the near future, you can't do no interview and
say I ain't got his number, I ain't got in
touch with him. You overly got my number overly that
that just further my conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
You saying even after all the shit, you all the
jails you've been taking, and you still up over to submit.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
Because you know you're wrong. It ain't even about submitting.
It's about speaking your peace.

Speaker 1 (02:14:36):
Did what it is? Bro? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
So basically, I don't like imagine a nigga brou we
fight to say why saler is not a game? Me
and Bank best friend, my man's we have made all
the means in the world together.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
I gave you the meetings. We ain't make them together.
I gave them to you. You get on and you
take a plead and say duct take is a game
and it must end just be just be a man.
You don't think that you old.

Speaker 3 (02:15:05):
An explanation no matter what though saying Thor can say
bank arrect all day, bank erect here.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
Motherfucking rat.

Speaker 3 (02:15:11):
Nigga, I can say that all day and you can't
take anybody that because you did. But that's gonna stop
you from giving me an explanation as a man. So
maybe he need to get in touch with his feelings
as a man. Bro, you supposed to take you supposed
to Bruh, This's what I did. Then what I was thinking.
If you're rocking with it, rock, if you're not fuck it,

(02:15:32):
how can you just get How can you just do
what you did to.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
Me and then just go live your life like ain't
nothing happened? Like, how can you do it? Bro? I
can't do that. I feel like I ain't do nothing
in the world wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
In my interrogation, and I still can't just go by
living my life without addressing it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:51):
I still got to address it, because you know, it
wrong for him being in there as a man. I
gotta explain this to niggas that I lord, that look
at me like a gangster, that look at me like
a man.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
It's niggas in this world that's gonn be like bo
the fuck is you doing? Ye practice what you preach?

Speaker 3 (02:16:03):
Yeah, That's why I'm speaking on it, because I'm a
man and I got real feelings and I care, and
I'm gonna make it right.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
How the funck, I'm gonna just go forward.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
How that means to me. You never felt the way
I felt about you about me? You never did mhm.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
Nigga. I died for. I go again that nigga. Nigga
even to this day still I die for I go
against him. The only thing I'm ever saying, you're a rat.
You're a rat. Bro, you a nigga. You did wor wrong,
you betrayed me being a part of his de minds
or anything like that. I'm never doing that. Nigga, Little nigga,
mama that nigga MoMA like mama. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:16:39):
Nigga bought his mother first piece of jey. Obviously he
presented it like he bought it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
I did that. She probably never know that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
We were talking about that ship all and I tell you,
I'm gonna just bring it back to Bro. This ship
got you fucked up. You said that right, and you
agree right? You just we just unlocked it right, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
How do you heal? Bro? How do you? How do
you move forward? Period?

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
That's why I'm talking to niggas like you. Whatever I talk,
you gotta put me down. I don't know, you gotta
put me Somebody tell me what I can do? Like Bro,
I'm just I'm just telling you. I'm telling you my
how you heal in? I hear, I hear that, but
like that with soap and water, So gonna hear this ship?

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Yeah, thats what.

Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
You more in touch with your feelings because you're an
older man. You more, you're more in touch with how lifeels.
You done been my age before. I ain't been your age, ship,
So you could tell me if you know, tell me ways.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
I can hear.

Speaker 2 (02:17:38):
I don't know, Nigga. I'm I'm telling you my perspective.
I'm telling you why I'm fund up. I'm telling you
why I can't go forward, why not why I can't
go for I can go forward, I'm telling you why
I haven't went. First step is knowing what is just it.
First step is knowing I ain't ever know to today
I talk first knowing. The second step is god damn
knowing that you know I don't know. You just got it, man,

(02:17:58):
sh you got it bro whatever, Man like everybody man,
nigga just gotta move forward.

Speaker 1 (02:18:03):
They life.

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
Man, make sure this shit don't turn into nothing. No,
that's all I'm saying. With whoever on the internet talking
the internet, you ain't gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
I feel like y'all have a conversation. That's just how
I feel.

Speaker 3 (02:18:14):
So have you ever been have you ever been portrayed
by one of your friends? It's so bad to what
you can't talk to him?

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
No more? Don't lie.

Speaker 2 (02:18:23):
Yes, but I still if a nigga, if a nigga,
if a nigga, if I see a nigga mama or
something till my brother I said, I love him because
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
I understand. I can't turn my heart off.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
That's ain't finna say nothing about you ain't fineling them
because I already know where it's gonna lead to.

Speaker 3 (02:18:40):
We keep going back and forth and that she's gonna
lead to something else. That's another thing on respect. A
Nigga ain't contact my mama when you did what's wrong
in their courtroom. You ain't get out of jail and
run to my mama immediately. You ran to your mama,
who I take care of. You ain't rent to my
mama who you ain't never did nothing in the world
for nothing. You ain't pull up my mama and say, hey,
I know Bro going through some shit. Hell, Bro helped

(02:19:01):
me help Bruh send money that the niggas sent money
to help me pay for my lawyer.

Speaker 1 (02:19:04):
Wham sent the money all of that. That's why Wam hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:19:07):
Like the niggas they talked to Wham, I ain't talking
to him the nigga hell conversation with Wam.

Speaker 1 (02:19:11):
Wam told them, man, hell no, nigga wait, never don't
never do that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:16):
But if y'all had get one hundred years on that,
buonk nigga, we gonna take care of your mom and
your family forever. And nigga know Wam mean what he
say He stayed on his business home a real one
de niggas help conversations with Wham, and Wam.

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
Told the niggas what no, sir, No, you can't do that. Nigga.
What that's the worst. No niggat pull up my ma Mama.

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
Bro nigga done talk hell conversation with my mama gave
my mama said, man fort the niga the nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
Because she's a old lady, so she don't even cap
care about the nigga ran in doing all that. She
an old dad lady.

Speaker 3 (02:19:45):
My mama get on the phone and she say, ship
like man, them niggag't pull up on me. Ain't none
of them niga came to see me. Guess what wam
that pulled up gave my mama bags dumb jos Pluto
don't gave my mama dump joes cash XO cash. Don't
pulled up s ever time game home, Mo, dunt you
old niggas gave my mom three four hundred thousand why
like gaphus fifty sixty.

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
One hundred one whatever he have on.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
He just pulled up my ma Mama jo a hug
and kiss him and whatever he got on he's your
gig to hell, it might be thirty six thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Hell, Mama do.

Speaker 3 (02:20:15):
Bro He ain't even put up on my mama. And
that's why I say you don't. You're not a man,
because you ain't even ever told your mama all this
shit I did for her. Yo, Mama, thank you the
real nigga, your mama, thank you taking care of you.
Never even told your mama. Man sline did this shit
because guess what, you not a man to me? You
living your life according to your your rap career. The

(02:20:41):
only regret I have is ever in my life messing
with them niggas. Ever, I spould have had better judgment
with who I take with me. Bro bay he nigga
fought nigga whole ship up. But I can't function. I'm
telling you, brother, fucked up. Bro Like, ain't even about
none of this interrogation, all that shit, that shiit petty shit.
I ain't never tripping on that. When I got on
the phone with you today, what I said, Hey, BROD,
did w wrong and you said, ain't do nothing wrong.

(02:21:03):
The only thing you did wrong was even talking to them.
But for sating somebody to jail or telling on somebody.
You ain't do none of that, because that's what I
care about.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
I care about that. I'm a man. I honor niggas
who I love, I respect. I honored that. I honored
that nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:21:17):
You ain't even told your mamma and your daddy and
your brother that I was the one who helped you
do all the shit for them you did, not saying
you wanted did it, but you wasn't able to do
it at the moment you needed to be done.

Speaker 1 (02:21:26):
I did it. You ain't ever tell them that I
fuck with Weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:21:31):
I look at that nigga like a big brother to
a certain extent. We ain't never just like hung out
hung out like that, But I fought with cash cash
my brother. This nigga part of my management team, sal
a part of my management team. I paid money for
your album to go number one. You ain't you not
biger than no fucking wee.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
Can't, nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
I paid money for your album to go number one.
The thing I don't respect about Am is she ain't
tell you that. She on the phone with you in
jail saying, man, take your plea gonne fuck your nigga.
Ain't none of y'all real. Ain't none of y'all gonna
just say Damn, you can't say that, She said, who
you can't just say? He said he told some some

(02:22:07):
of our friends that it was part of the reason
he took his plea. Ed was like, man, ship, bro,
you gotta focus on your career. You gotta, you gotta,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
And she said he was saying that. She was saying it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:20):
She was saying it to the to the degree of
like she was. She know, she learned, she how to
play the game. You know, she she came up on
the Pluto. She knew how to play the game. But
she was telling him, like she if you want to
help Slign, you need to get out so you can
help sign Slie. What made what made me know that
that was some cap is when you got out of jail,
you didn't help Slim at all. When you got out
of jail, you didn't help Slim at all. Savage sent

(02:22:43):
money to Thut, Walliam sent money, the Thought, Pluto sent money.
The thor cast sent one of the Thought. Drake said
crazy bank roll to Thut. Gunnar didn't saying no bank
roll to Thought. Gunnar didn't pull up on throw Mama.
Gunne didn't pull up on through a family. Gunn pull
up on Dillar. Gunnar didn't pull up on nobody that
has nothing to do with Doug.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
So it's no way possible you think that or serious
when she said you gotta get out so you can
help thup man.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
You ain't get out and do nothing to help me
at all. You do an interview and say I'm providing
how where the fuck you providing it?

Speaker 3 (02:23:16):
What's you talking about? By you ain't pulled up my ma,
Mama gave him nothing. I'm so solid right that Nigga
signed me right now. I'm so solid. I still ain't
never took a dollar from him right now, and he
signed me. Ever, I still took a dollar like I Ever,
I still ain't collecting none of my money that he
owe me right now to today.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Never still as never. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:23:42):
That shit might be got THEMN flowing in the wind,
some well, I ain't even stunning looking for it. I
feel like that's not godly. That's not a godlet gift.
I feel like the devil give gifts too. I feel
like that that ain't a God gift. That ain't a
gift God that want me there. I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:58):
I don't want that shit, fuck it. I I rather
die and then the lawyers figure that ship out. Oh
this he made the three four million off for gun
the music?

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
Get this ship to a kid? I fuck that. I ain't.
But I'm so fucked up by that ship Ran. I'm
so much of a real nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:24:12):
I still can't even be no fucking I still can't
even go not that ain't even been the fucking I
can't even be a beast in the man with the niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:24:20):
After he did what he did, I still ain't never
did nothing. So you really want to forgive No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
I wish he did something lighter so I could forgive them, funk,
I don't. Why don't cry many nights about this ship?

Speaker 3 (02:24:36):
This shit ain't bout no wam pluto savage man for
every one of them when they come down to how
I feel in real life, not saying for them on
no bullshit. When it comes down to me making a
man because I done to raise these niggas to a
certain statement.

Speaker 1 (02:24:50):
You think I care about what they feel? I can't.

Speaker 3 (02:24:52):
Hell, No, I'm a man. No what he did, I
will never do that piece of papers side, I could
have sent me to prison for the my life. We're
gonna taking that plea. Was it harmful to me?

Speaker 1 (02:25:06):
Yes? Oh you out.

Speaker 3 (02:25:10):
Because just because God, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying
it was harmful. But the way my lawyer and the
rest of the niggas, that's that stayed a part of
the case, the way we our lawyers.

Speaker 1 (02:25:23):
Worded it.

Speaker 3 (02:25:25):
Because you gotta think were going and we're going in
the trial saying that why sale is not a game?
Now you got gonna and the rest of these seven
niggas take a plee and say why sale is a game?
Except do everybody else who took a police said why
sale is a game? Now, my lawyer, now we having
to meet all the lawyers having a round table me
now all the all the lawyers saying why ain't no game?

Speaker 1 (02:25:44):
This? These are the points we're gonna hit. This is
what we're gonna do. Why say it not a game?

Speaker 3 (02:25:48):
This is what we're going to All all lawyers are aligned,
all there, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:25:53):
Huddle break. Now this nigga take a plea and say
it is a game. Now the seven niggas take a
please and say this game. Now they're going back into
the draw to the drawing board. Now the lawyer going
to the drawing board, like, well, now we're talking to
the juris first, we're telling the jurors, why say it
any game? Now we're going back to the jewis say, well,
some people might say it's a game, but we ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
A part of that part of it. We're a part
of the ricord label part.

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
Hold on, so let me let me ask you something,
uh one more thing about it. So, did y'all see
donal plea before he took it? Before we knew y'all
know the lawyers did. Didn't tell y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:26:29):
My lawyer told me what I'm saying. Like, my lawyer said,
I think Sergeio Kiss is gonna take a plea to day.
I said you think so? He said yes. So they
didn't get a chance to get seen his lawyer and
be like hey man, no, no, no, man, let's stay
on the track.

Speaker 2 (02:26:45):
Of course we did all that. His lawyer, my lawyer,
My lawyer was the head hunt or other lawyers. He
telling everything that happened in that trial came from Brian.
Everything he told every lawyer what to do, what to
get up there and stay. Max Shwarp is top tier.
Brian told a nigg everything to say to help chanting
everything niggas. Them niggas talk to each other every day. Obviously,

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Max Sharp mastermind and he know how to protect nigga.
Him and Brian in the same office. Brian gave that
nigga rooms in his office. Brian own his whole building,
this office space. He got ten fifteen rooms, man Max
Shark five of the rooms, Joe hell like. But these niggas,
these nigga in a huddle three years straight. Nigga, everybody
on one accord until that happened when he took the plea.

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The niggas who got off the case was out of
the huddle. All the rest of the lawyers who still
was on the case was still in the huddle. But
we had to change the plan. Hey, we're gonna run
to the right now. We got to change the plan.
We're gonna run to the left, and we're gonna say ship.
Some people did run to the right, but we ran.

Speaker 1 (02:27:44):
To the left. Coach, it was open. You gotta think,
do it hurt the case? Nigga?

Speaker 3 (02:27:49):
You got juror sitting in there. Bit saying, we don't
know none of these niggas. We know jan Thuck and
Ganna every jured. We know these two people, these are superstars.
The rest of these niggas is, we know these niggas.
These is the head hunt, Jos. This is what the
state's saying. The state don't even got to say it
were the two richest niggas on the case. The jurors

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gonna think that anyway, The state don't even got to
say it. They would have been built off not even
painting that narrative case.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
The Jews already thinking that they was paying the narrative
so bad to the point where it made the jurors like, man,
now you just talk.

Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
It might not be like that. It might not be
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:28:27):
You built off not even speaking on that and just
letting the Jurds just come up with that theyself, because
they were gonna come up with it themself.

Speaker 1 (02:28:31):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
If I'm looking at twenty six niggas in the room,
twenty eight niggas in the room, and twenty nigga millionaires, Okay,
these the two bosses.

Speaker 3 (02:28:37):
That's what I'm thinking anyway. But when you take your plea, now,
it's like we go from wysal not being a gang
to where why sall is a gag to certain people,
but not to miss Williams. Missus Williams is all about music.
What you mean, did it hurt the case? I heard
somebody do an interview and the one of the lawyers,

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mister Weinstein, God damn, salute him, love him. They asked,
missus Weinstein, they're gonna hurt, gonna hurt the case. And
he was just speaking from what happened after the police.
We was in this courtroom. Tanny, nigga, tanny, motherfuckers. The
state ass are part. They couldn't be in no no
wait shape of for him, No way, they wouldn't beat us.

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So that's why we say, what them niggas taking the
plee didn't harm the case. We're saying that overall it
ended up not harming the case, but right at that
moment when you take the plea, yes that harms the case.
Nigga were saying that it's not a game. You taking
the plea as the second man in charge. You taking

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the plea as the second man in charge, and you said.

Speaker 2 (02:29:45):
It did harm the case. I mean, and you saying
that it is a game that harms the case. Why
would the interview or why would anybody doing the interview even.

Speaker 1 (02:29:54):
Ask that question? Did it harm the case? Nigga off?
What the fuck you mean? Yes, I guess the niggas
the question should be, did it harmle the outcome?

Speaker 3 (02:30:03):
It ended up not harming the case because of the
masterminding of the rest of the lawyers as the court case,
as the trial went on, So basically in your mind.

Speaker 2 (02:30:13):
You feel like this niggas got out of jail feeling like, man,
this nigga he gone hopefully.

Speaker 3 (02:30:17):
I feel like all of them took a plea in
the beginning because they thought we were gonna They thought, nigga,
what the hell?

Speaker 1 (02:30:21):
What the other reason?

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
Then you went from a real nigga, a stepper, a
real live street nigga, respected street nigga, to a wreck
because you're thinking somebody the little damn man I love
you Brom doing an interview, he just didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:30:42):
Know any about Naggy, just speaking like we just talking
man a man. That's why that's why I ask you question,
like bank what man a man?

Speaker 3 (02:30:49):
I understand the light and the political understand the political
ship behind everything, but just man and man man brother
the brother back home into a little homie. If you
gone to jail and you plea out before the trial
even start, what the fuck are you thinking?

Speaker 1 (02:31:06):
Boy? This shit? Oh man, you remember them zoom calls.

Speaker 3 (02:31:10):
That was all over there on neck, the zoom calls
when we were going to caught them first few times
on zoom before we made it to the court room.
We was on zoom when we was doing going for
buns and shit, Man, you don't remember me asking a
nigga on the zoom.

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
We don't even put the talk. I broke the law.
I'm on the zoom. I said, gunner, you look at
me on the zoom, I say you good, cheering up, nigga?
You good? He say, yeah, that's some shit.

Speaker 3 (02:31:34):
I forgot what he said, but he just the energy
was yet down, not even on no bulls' no funishing
in that like the energy with that down. So it
just automatically made me start thinking like, well, brother.

Speaker 1 (02:31:44):
You're good. I'm not saying that, you know. Right at
that point, I'm just like, nigga, what you going through?
You good?

Speaker 3 (02:31:49):
And that's why because I'm a bit brother to the niggas,
So that's why I do shit like head up. When
we don't need calls. When we in this courtroom, man
head up, cheering up. Fuck that nigga. If we go
to Prins with us our life, whoo do do we
go to priz a nigga and we fight to get
out this bitch? If we beat these folks? Woo do
do we beat them?

Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
We go forward? That said, how I go, but kill
the nigga? Feel like shit?

Speaker 3 (02:32:15):
Well it was still a nigga left on ThEC casion
and you took kill please. Yeah, but my plea didn't
say my plea count harm nobody. You see what I'm saying,
My cleai my plea. I ain't say why seal with
no game in my plea. I ain't say nothing in
my plea. That's why I didn't do the plea. The
state offered me a plea, and they wanted.

Speaker 1 (02:32:33):
Me to say why sal it was a game.

Speaker 3 (02:32:34):
I'm the owner of wise Heal the game, and why
so much end In the state's plea they say all
this and their plea, I told them I'm not doing that,
So they wanted me to tell about nothing getting killed.

Speaker 1 (02:32:46):
I don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 3 (02:32:47):
They want to tell me. They want me to tell
about Shamel drinks. The other nigga from their side again killed.
The three four more niggas from their side again killed.
Even they were to my niggas who got killed from
the side. They weren't even involved in the case. They
just wanted me to tell on that, like you're gonna
telling all this shit. We know you know about all
I'm telling them. I swear to God, I'm my freedom.
I don't know about none of this shit.

Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
Nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:33:04):
I'm in the clouds. I really don't know about this shit.
Guess what that state end up saying, were going back
and forth. We just talking about the plea, the agreement,
the plea agreement. Weeks and weeks, we never can come
to agreement. Guess what the DA say. Funny Willis say, Well,
you don't got to speak on none of this ship.
You don't got to tell on nobody get killed. Youn't
gotta tell me none of that. I take all this

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shit out of the plea. But you must say, WHI
saler is a game and you the owner of wisel man,
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
Beat it. I'm a man nigga. Wh say not a
game of me? Beat it?

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
I'm giving for no freedom in the world and make
me do that. No, guess what, Brian say, Shit, I
ain't gonna do the plee. Fuck it, Let's go on
finish trial. Say, let's the next day. He call to
me with a plan. He say, you ever heard of
for goddamn none negotiated the plea. I'm like, nah, it's that.
He's like, well, you don't got to deal with the
d a. You deal directly with the judge. That mean
you get up in front of the judge and you
say you're guilty of these crimes. I said, I'm not

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guilty of that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:59):
I'm not in the game.

Speaker 3 (02:34:00):
I'm not gilt here or why self in the game
the reco I'm not getting it in that Brian, So
I wouldn't get I don't want to get up in
the courtroom and say I'm guilty of that.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (02:34:09):
I don't want to get out of jail that bad, bron,
That's not true. Let's go on on to let's finish
this trial. And he he ain't want to do the
plea anyway. Brian like, man, we're gonna beat the sleez
all they mother fucking now. I'm just telling you you
can't get convicted of this because it was in your house.
So that's why when we did the none negotiated plea, Brian,
when we were talking to the judge, Brown was talking
about to try the charge.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
That I had.

Speaker 3 (02:34:28):
Brian like, Hey, we plead none, no lo to discharge.
We plead not give to the decharge. We plead not
get to the troe. Please not get to these charge.

Speaker 2 (02:34:35):
We'll please give it to these charges because these are
the rug these are this this ship that they found
in his house. I'm on probation for the ship they
found in my house the day we went to jail.
I'm not on probation for nothing that that that the
DA was trying to say I was I was guilty of.
I'm only on probation for what they found in my house.
That's first of all in my plea, my plea was
none negotiated. I went straight to the judge. Hey, I'm

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guilty of these crimes. I'm a gilt I'm guilty of
having these controls to send my house. I'm gilt to
having any pills in my house. I'm guilty of having
this weed in my house. I'm guilty of having these
guns in my house. I'm guilty of having his serve
in my house. That's what I'm guilty of. Rico being
in a violence criminal street game where I say all
this shit, I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:35:11):
Not guilty of none of that. I ain't doing that.
Guess what the judge said.

Speaker 3 (02:35:16):
I agree, I'm gonna find you guilty of this ship
that I found in your house. So my plea was
the plea that I was gonna endwa anyway, because if
I would have beat the case, I still would have got.

Speaker 1 (02:35:27):
Found guilty of the ship that they founded my house.
You think you got more time, You think you got
some jail time if you do it like went all
the way through it.

Speaker 3 (02:35:34):
No, because she ended up because because yeah, I mean,
Shannon had got found guilty of one of his charges
having a firearm as a convicted feeling. So he put
them went to jail ten year for that off top
ten years, and it was a switch ten years off top.
He got acquitted for everything else, all the murdercy sh
he gotta quit it, but he got found guilty for
that one charge because they gotta find him gilt it

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even if the jurors want, even if the juriors want to,
God damn to say that he is, they can't.

Speaker 1 (02:36:01):
So Shannon kept us all the way out too. Yeah,
that jed of law.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
But when when when he got found, when they say
you you ac quit it for everything, but you guilty
of this gun charge. We are we in our mind
thinking like damn, they even go to prison for the
gun Keep what the judge saying, You've been through enough,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:36:16):
Let you out.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
So I feel like now, if I would have stayed
in the trial, I would have got found guilty of
the ship that they found in my house.

Speaker 2 (02:36:22):
Because it ain't no law that tell the jurors they
can they can get around it. It ain't no way
to get around it.

Speaker 1 (02:36:27):
So the Durwids like fuck, ain't nobody claiming and this
shit like fuck, we gotta.

Speaker 3 (02:36:30):
Find them guilty for this. It's no where around it,
even if they want to. You see what I'm saying,
they can't let me off the hook for it. I
gotta get found guilty of that. So why the fuck
will I not take a pleat and get out of
jail today? Or some ship I know nine time to tell,
i'mna get try, I'm gonna get found. Gives it for anyway.
At the end of the trial, I would have got
found gives for the shit in my house. I would
have beat everything else. I would have got found giltsy
for the shit in my house. And she didn't send

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Shannon in the prison, so she probably wanted to send
me to prison.

Speaker 2 (02:36:54):
She probably would have said the same thing like, all,
I'm gonna give you probational for this shit in your house.

Speaker 1 (02:36:57):
Ain't gone only life cool?

Speaker 3 (02:36:59):
I still with that same I'm on probation for now,
I STI would have been on probation for in the
end of this the at the end of the trial,
because it was no loops for the jurors to find
me innocent, to find me innocent for that you've been found.

Speaker 1 (02:37:11):
Goods for that.

Speaker 3 (02:37:12):
They can't They can't find you. They can't say you
ain't guilty of it. But it's like them not being real.
It's like the jurs just not being real. Like, well,
it ain't nowhere around this ship. This nigga asked, it's
guilty of this. It ain't nothing around it, no law
that that makes me overstep that he guilty.

Speaker 1 (02:37:31):
So what's your temperature with Luta right now?

Speaker 3 (02:37:34):
There ain't no templature with them, man, bro I pray
that nigga get everything he deserves everything.

Speaker 1 (02:37:40):
I told that nigga even in the miss of our beef.
I told that nigga. Bruh.

Speaker 3 (02:37:46):
I say some bullshit in the too, but I was
speaking really from the hard real bro. I respect everything
you do for your mom and your kids. I respect
all that shit. If not, I would have been dead
some to your ad. That's what I tweeted.

Speaker 1 (02:37:59):
I said.

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
If I ain't respecting that, if I ain't respect what
you did for your mom and your kids and how
you look out for your family, I would have been
this on to your ad.

Speaker 1 (02:38:06):
I'm just a real nigga. I respect how nigga treat
their family like well. I respect it.

Speaker 3 (02:38:10):
He was an active dada in his Schorldren's life still
right now to him since he been out. I still
be watching him now since he since he got out,
he's still at the father. I respect that, man. I
don't want no harm. I don't want to do that
to you, bro. You're a real man to me. Why
the fun would I want to kill a nigga that
I think?

Speaker 1 (02:38:23):
It's like me. You're a real man at me.

Speaker 3 (02:38:26):
Bro, But leave me alone too, though, Like stop, don't
fuck me neither because because if if if it had
to go a certain way, but then we got to
go a certain way.

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
So but that's my way of trying to just tell
niggas like, hey, bright, I ain't on that. I ain't
on that, bro. I'm living life. I'm doing shit, bro,
I'm living shit in this world for real.

Speaker 2 (02:38:44):
Bro brouh and the nigga he tweeted me a million times,
fu nig he ain't nothing like Tupac.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
Mean you're a rat. I mean you're a goddamn pump.
You gay, you drive, you are addressed. You did this,
you did that, he replied. He tweeted me probably twenty
times in a row every day. Just you're judgn agony
every day. I tweeted him one time after he tweeted
me twenty times. I said, nigga, if I ain't respect
what you did for your mom and your children and
how you looked out for your family, I would have
been this on to your air. If you read that

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tweet from me, what you will say, what you will tell?
Leave that nigg alone, bro right, Yeah, I said, he trolled.

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
Hell no, that ain't.

Speaker 2 (02:39:24):
But I say he don't want him, he don't. He Trolledhi,
but he don't want to do none of you. I
say that right, He told him he don't want to
do nothing you. I ain't I really want then with
that tweet because me or him don't got nothing to
do it in real life, me and him don't got
nothing to do with none of the beefs on both sides.

Speaker 1 (02:39:40):
Me and him don't got nothing to do with it.
He just loved not so much. He just asserted himself
in the ship. But I thought they were saying about
a girl though.

Speaker 2 (02:39:48):
Hell nah ah, that ship was trolling when he said
he thought my girl. Now that ship all this ship
was trolling.

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
Ship. Yeah, we were trolling. I'm saying that was what
niggas thinking, like, yeah, old beef.

Speaker 3 (02:39:57):
Behind No, sir, this shit is behind nut Woody broken
nut car and stole his jury.

Speaker 1 (02:40:05):
And I'm saying all this ship because it's all public record.
We already said all this ship.

Speaker 3 (02:40:09):
Understand him in the DA and I said, it's understand
he broke a nut car and stole nut drury. He
didn't know what was nut car. He's seen a peanut chain.
He said, Oh ship, this nuts, this is a nigga
nut chain. He called nut and said, hey, brode young,
he ain't put it on himself. He said, heid man
from you nigger broken your car.

Speaker 2 (02:40:25):
They brown the jury to me and nothing like brand
the jew I ain't ain't ain't no, I ain't tripped nothing, player,
I ain't tripping.

Speaker 1 (02:40:30):
Brand the drud to me.

Speaker 3 (02:40:33):
He bringed the drid to Nut your dread and Nut back,
I mean getting up his jeary back and got damn
gone on body business.

Speaker 1 (02:40:38):
Nuts ain't tripping, nothing like it. I got all my
ship back. I ain't tripping.

Speaker 2 (02:40:42):
But you got niggas who would nut who like many
for nigga just played. Let's take it there.

Speaker 1 (02:40:47):
So the whole time, Men and Nut on the phone
every day trying to stop these nigga from beefing.

Speaker 2 (02:40:51):
Like man, bro. We ain't on that bro Bro Nut
getting money. I'm getting money like nigga nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:40:58):
We were hanging out. I turned Nut onto a bird.
I brought nothing around.

Speaker 3 (02:41:01):
Bird because I know best friend, the nigga who they
call bird Man from from Pink City.

Speaker 1 (02:41:07):
I know him from being nuht free. I don't know.
I ain't never seen him though I seen him.

Speaker 3 (02:41:10):
I seen him two times in my life, but I
know him, and Nut used to call himself bird and Slim.
So when I got on and I met Bird, gave
what I told Bird in Miami, Man, you got.

Speaker 2 (02:41:20):
To meet the nigga from the hook, from the city
they call themself bird and slim. You got to meet
the nigga like Bro one hundred percent, the most genuine
nigga you could think of it. I'm telling you it's
a real fact. I wish not was living so he
can say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:41:32):
I turned him on a bird. The pictures when you
see nothing on a boat with bird, I'm here, I'm there.
I took the picture. I got nothing pH one and
took this picture. Man, take the picture with the nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:41:40):
But I know y'all look at at the niggas I
told bird Man, Nut is supposed to be slim.

Speaker 1 (02:41:46):
So you gotta wait the other nigga, Bird who used
to be with Nut. He was in prison. Still, he
was in jail during some time during the bed So I.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Told bird man like man, you got to meet the
nigga bird Man from Atlanta, who who call herself bird Man.
He bothered an nigga tattoos in there. He really thinks bird.
I'm like he and Prizzle right now. But you got
to meet him too. Like I turned bird on the nut,
I had blood of J around bird Man trying to
do this. I turned bloody J on the rock. Oh,
I've been licking this time. I made niggas lock in

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men bloody j. Them started off beefing about them, saying
that Bo was a wreck. Boo told told on Mo,
we ain't ever seen that paper work?

Speaker 1 (02:42:23):
Still is it to day?

Speaker 3 (02:42:25):
They typed up some You're right, they typed us some
paperwork one time, and it was fake paperwork. The only
reason why we knew the faith the paperworker fake because
they misspelled words. Ain't no motherfucking d a office misspelling
no word, dumb ass nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:42:36):
They misspelled prosecution and all type of shit.

Speaker 2 (02:42:39):
You said they made some fake paper, But he nigga
has some fake paperwork, saying that Boot told on on
On Mo.

Speaker 1 (02:42:50):
Mo told me this.

Speaker 3 (02:42:52):
Boo Boo told. I seen Boot get on the phone
with Mo myself. I seen Boot on the phone with
him myself, witnessed it right there. Boot said, man, these
folks about you said, I told on you more. Gilmo said, man,
ain't told no nigga, I ain't told nobody that I
fuck with you boo man every time I see you
e depth like, and I ain't told nobody that. I

(02:43:13):
ain't say nothing about it. But Mo, you told me
your damn self that that boot told on you man
all this ship cap I made a nigget on the phone.

Speaker 1 (02:43:21):
Paperwork or that ship count different. You see some papers.

Speaker 2 (02:43:24):
When you see paperwork, believe that you when you see paperwork,
this paperwork.

Speaker 1 (02:43:28):
Yeah, this ship paper on your well, how they spelled it.

Speaker 2 (02:43:30):
I'm just when a nigga said it, no, because you
gotta were about to make human mistakes. No, we gotta
know theat hey, no niggas well when when a prosecutor
typing up, you can get a new trial for that
if they miss spelled some words in this paperork, nigga,
you can get a new trial. The fuck you mean? No,
folks ain't making no mistake like that. I promise you
that look at our paperwork. I bet you whatever you

(02:43:51):
think you want to be at no misspeare word that
motherfucker nigga needs to real low any mistakes.

Speaker 1 (02:43:58):
You can get a new trial anything, nigga. Nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:44:01):
Folks ain't making no fucking mistakes nigga the crazy, especially
on those certain words. They are prosecutors, Big Bank is
it's motherfucking big facts. How the fuck I'm gonna go
for some paperwork and big Bank spell fat big facts wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:44:14):
Nigga. Wh How the hell a prosecutor gonna spell prosecution wrong?
What are you talking about? Nigga? Beat it? What he
talking about? And they had more than one misspeaill word
like four five misspelled word on.

Speaker 2 (02:44:27):
The first piece on the first ship the state of
Georgia versus this that was wrong, That spelling was wrong.
Like man, y'all have made Philip team has got them
misspelled word on the first piece of paper.

Speaker 1 (02:44:38):
Beat it, man, it ain't real. That sh it ain't real.
But even if it is, God the dead dude, Boot dead.

Speaker 3 (02:44:45):
So what even if it is, even when I figured
out because Mo told me yourself that Boot told so,
even when I seen more, when I heard more on
the phone with Boot and more denied saying that to Boot,
I ain't even tell a boo.

Speaker 1 (02:44:57):
Mo told me that.

Speaker 3 (02:44:58):
I ain't even tell able man, he capt he told
me you did. I ain't say nothing of that. Come
just not, no, miss a. Nigga ain't doing it when
he when I heard Motail Boom took my face on
the phone from Jail, who said, what's up, my boy?

Speaker 1 (02:45:10):
What going on? Nigga Boo? You know what's up my boy?
What's up?

Speaker 2 (02:45:12):
He's like, Man, I'm trying to see what the hell
going on in the street.

Speaker 1 (02:45:15):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (02:45:15):
You know I fucked your game. Brother, they niggas I
got down. You're saying I told on you, Bro, That
nigga said, Man, Noah, why you know I fought your game.
Every time we see you other we got damn Greek
like players. By you ain't saying no shit like that. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:45:24):
Don't let the niggas go damn woo.

Speaker 3 (02:45:26):
I heard him say this of my own mouth, and
I ain't trying to stir no shit up within they
crew man, all the nigga Man, I respect all gangsters,
all real niggas, all niggas. They do what they s
post to do. I see Mo Tech care family from Jail.
I respect the boy. I ain't even been on the
phone a few times, even throughout the beef. I've been
on the phone with him. Hey, bro, man, ain't got
nony do that shit. Keep that ship away from me.
I'm trying to do what I need to do with

(02:45:46):
this rap shit. But I made it out of clean
avenue niggas. I got six montherfucking kid and them I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (02:45:51):
I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (02:45:52):
That's why I was just fucking with Nigga like Blood
of Jay Nigga, like all I play. I was fucking
with them niggas. I was fucking with a bit no
nigga had.

Speaker 1 (02:45:59):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:45:59):
I got five videos with bird Man, with none of
them with greeting like Nigga shot ain't no harm my
blood with Day's loaf in they hood. I shot them,
mother fucker in Pink City, in they projects where.

Speaker 1 (02:46:13):
They hang at right now. I shot that video there
the video me, bird Man and goddamn Raf.

Speaker 3 (02:46:21):
Look at the video. We played it in court when
when Nat Daddy got understand because of the DA done
tricked him to lie about some shit. When Nat Daddy got.

Speaker 2 (02:46:28):
Understand and saying ya my son and nut and throw
up being goddamned fell like back in November of two
thousand and fourteen cause he got killed two thousand and fifteen.
January tenth, two thousand fifteen. Hit Daddy get understand listening
to what the DA telling him to say. Because they
get the purple before you get understand. He get on
the stand and say without even knowing the truth, and

(02:46:49):
I get it. You're a dad that lost his son. Yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (02:46:52):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (02:46:52):
I'm never That's why I ain't never said fuck the
nigga dadd I never said for him, none of that.

Speaker 1 (02:46:56):
I don't say none of that. I get it. Nigga
a nigganna do whatever to get some just for they
tell my son in case nigga, they the family got
a right to feel however they feel. I'm never going
to get family for sure. I understood that. That's real.
When Nutt died, my house got busted.

Speaker 3 (02:47:12):
They typed up a fake search one and bust my house.

Speaker 1 (02:47:16):
They got my phones.

Speaker 3 (02:47:18):
They so they so fucked up, the d the jujits,
the judicial system so fucked up. They see me and
nut text mission in my phone the day he died,
The day before he died. Where you at, another man
right here, right here to park and go get me
a half cut?

Speaker 1 (02:47:34):
Got damn? I see I pull up on you.

Speaker 3 (02:47:36):
Later on, I say left. Look the day would have
got jumped on in the club. I texted him, Man,
what the hell going on? But I thought we said
we squat ship. Bro I thought you, me and you
got on the phone like brothers like men.

Speaker 1 (02:47:45):
He said, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:47:47):
When when' you a part of that that ship? We
telling them, nigga stop that ship. We telling them, nigga
let this ship go by. Y'all nigga tripping. This ain't
bout nothing like y'all nigga really spoke with about nothing.
And I got a text message talking in that moments
before he died same day. They knew it, they didn't,
They just didn't saying it like obviously. That's the state

(02:48:08):
they're trying to. They're trying to do their case. They're
doing what they sposa do like. I ain't even mad
at them, like you you you my opposition at this point.
You're trying to do what you do this since me,
I'm trying to do what I'm doing to not get sentenced.

Speaker 1 (02:48:19):
I ain't tripping. But broh, we got text message of
me in that test. I don't know. Goddamn well, me
and and man were cool. Y'all know that what you
want to what flights we do this? What you gonna
say to the city before we get out of there?

Speaker 3 (02:48:34):
Listen, man, I tried my best. I tried my best
to make this city one unity. I tried my best
anybody from this city, including Rulo p all y'all niggas.
I don't got no smoke with yall niggas. I don't
want no gas ship to go on with your nigga.
I ain't got time like we are. The street ship

(02:48:54):
is already over with once you do it, certain once
you tell the street shit over it, Like, don't you
can't kick the street nigga shit? And I ain't even
saying that to bad no nigga, Like, why would I
want some smoke with a nigga that I already been
told on somebotter that work that you don work with
the police.

Speaker 1 (02:49:10):
I'm just saying just real nigga shit.

Speaker 3 (02:49:12):
But still though, listen, I don't want no smoke with
y'all nigga even now, even if y'all didn't tell I'm
just bigger and better than what we're doing. I'm bigger
and better than this. I don't want no smoke with
no nigga. I don't got no problem with y'all nigga. Man, Peace,
love and blessings. I hope everybody live their life and
live and rejoice. I hope everybody in this world prosper

(02:49:34):
and get where they need to get.

Speaker 1 (02:49:36):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:49:36):
I don't got no no hard feeling with no nigga,
even the niggas on this case, even the niggas that
I'm mad at.

Speaker 1 (02:49:41):
I'm forever mad at. I still don't want you to fail.

Speaker 3 (02:49:44):
I justly have been in my feelings and I don't
been on jail cause and saying she's like, man, I
won't to drop the same that I want to do
the same that I want.

Speaker 1 (02:49:49):
I just want to add I'm out of jail. I
beat this ship. Nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:49:53):
I understand the chance God gave me. I understand the
chance that that judge gave me. I understand all that.
And now I'm to my fans and everybody that I
love that I even took that for granted. But I
hope now that you understand why why I couldn't just
go forward, why I took it for granted. If if
you think I took it for granted, I don't want
you to understand through this conversation why I feel.

Speaker 1 (02:50:13):
How I feel.

Speaker 2 (02:50:15):
I'm gonna tell you after this because you really you
realize that you fucked up trauma to all this ship,
all this ship that everybody that don't know that we
walk around with. Everybody's undiagnosed of mental illness. For real,
if you're from the streets, you fucked up. Only who
you They ain't not but heartbreaking matraials and this ship.
So you saying basically, you finna move not. I know

(02:50:37):
it's gonna be hard to move forward for some of
that ship. You're finna try your best to heal and
move forward from all the niggative shit. Absolutely absolutely, because
we gotta hold you account. Like Slyne you just said
this man, you some little shit.

Speaker 1 (02:50:49):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:50:49):
If a nigga don't because it ain't just for the people,
for everybody else, it's for you too, bro, your family too. Whoever,
niggas getting taken chances and nigga don't got like nine
chances ship.

Speaker 1 (02:51:01):
We all got like nine chain. Niggas have been in
and out of in and out of ship. Could have
been in ship, could have this, could have that, and.

Speaker 2 (02:51:07):
God working on our city. Man, we needed, we need
to put the energy back into ship. Well, niggas ain't
gotta be friends and ain't got a ship. But like
you just said, I don't want to see no harm,
no nobody. I ain't against no nigga. I ain't in
your way, don't get in my way. That's how I
look at because we're looking crazy right now. Absolutely, But
I don't want niggas to make it like on the

(02:51:29):
forefront of us.

Speaker 1 (02:51:30):
It's everybody. I'm just whole pot. I'm just letting the people.

Speaker 3 (02:51:34):
I'm gonna let the people that's not from Atlanta know, okay,
the people that's the fans of everybody. Wilo fans be fans,
Wamn fans, Blulo fans, my fans, Gunner fans, yet fans, fans, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:51:43):
I'm letting everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:51:44):
That's not a part of Atlanta that don't know the
inside school, that don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (02:51:47):
I'm going to be the head. Were just all ingredients.
None of us shouldn't be no more ingredients.

Speaker 2 (02:51:53):
Everybody who owned the more for anybody who want to
come on the motherfucker talk, come on, but no ingreded
don't be an ingredient.

Speaker 3 (02:51:58):
Bro to the to the to the devil gumbo shit.
I wanted everybody in this world a prosper. This is
my honest, god opinion. I want everybody in this world
a prosper, no matter what you did, no matter what
you did wrong, because everybody Done did wrong shit. Everybody
Done did bad shit. You know, everybody Une did something bad.
Everybody Une did something that's.

Speaker 1 (02:52:17):
That wasn't godly.

Speaker 3 (02:52:18):
When you're a street nigga and you're against them, I
don't give that. If he comeing down and you selling drugs,
that's bad. You sold somebody drugs, they could die from it.
Everybody Une did bad shit. So I'm not really tripping.
I'm just telling you just a few of my opines,
like how I feel about certain shit and why I
feel like your best caution to me was why the
hell you ain't do what you need to do when

(02:52:39):
you got out? Because I understood the blessing that I got.
I understood the judge talking to me and look at
me fair to face saying, nigga, you the one bro
she gonna blame.

Speaker 1 (02:52:48):
Yeah, you go back. I'm already knowing, but I ain't
gonna give no reason to know.

Speaker 3 (02:52:52):
You know what I'm saying, I'm going forward with my life, bro,
Like I ain't tripping, bro, I just feel like at
this point, I just I ain't ever spoke on it.
Because I was just a man, like I'm just on
the shit, like, man, we're gonna fall that shit. I'm
a man, y'all nicks rack, y'all nigga wrong. I was
just living, living in that dream. But now just having
a conversation with you and talking and just like feeling
it like it's just feel like I got it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:13):
Just going on.

Speaker 1 (02:53:14):
I gotta move on. But I just wanted Ghanna, you
are gonna duke? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:53:18):
You all my fans rollo, p wam, pluto, everybody, wheezy.
I want cash everybody who I love, who I honor,
I want all them to know. This is my side.
This is how I feel. This is why I'm how
I am. This is why I streamed so much on
a nigga. This is why I'm how I am. I
feel betrayed, I feel hurt, I feel whatever you call it,
I just feel it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:39):
Nah, this ship will bid, bro. I appreciate you for
even calling me. Let me be a part of you.
Know what I'm saying, witness a part of your pain
and your journey and where.

Speaker 1 (02:53:48):
You your perspective. Shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:53:50):
I just hope you got damn allow us to be
a part of your damn your healing journey real because
a nigga fucked up.

Speaker 1 (02:54:00):
I just gotta get this ship right. I'm trying my bed. Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:54:04):
You think should let people be just witness the healing
all that ship too, But you mean that's good? Like
like actually, I just spoke my pain and what I
what I feel about my whole situation in my life
to the world, which is it just took me a
lot to do, but I did it.

Speaker 1 (02:54:19):
You think I should let people in on my healing
process too.

Speaker 2 (02:54:22):
Yeah, ain't no other way like shit, because because bro,
one thing about it. Bro, I don't know you locked
up brom potting the pass away, bro, like it wanted
to work with other people, got damn hipping me and
talking to me and pushing me through this ship. Want
to work like this, worship I ever felt them like
I was already on a transition side. Like just anyway,

(02:54:43):
just when y'all need to call the case, I'm like,
oh they shouldatch you niggas ass up. This shit kind
of did something to me like I ain't trying to
go sitting there, motherfucker. Niggas a bunch of nigga lying
on me. So I just straight told God, if I ain't,
if it ain't, if it ain't, it ain't got me
for nothing that I already did.

Speaker 1 (02:54:58):
I ain't doing nothing tho. And that's what I've been
on ever since. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:55:02):
And I don't take ship person like I used to.
Just like this take everything. I don't take that person.
That's the first thing.

Speaker 1 (02:55:08):
BRO.

Speaker 2 (02:55:08):
Get that book, bro, Full Agreement dog, just listen to
it on your phone whenever you whenever you ride to
the studio. Full Agreement gonna show you. But you can't
take ship personal.

Speaker 1 (02:55:17):
Have you ever heard read the Fifth Agreement?

Speaker 2 (02:55:20):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (02:55:20):
Read the fifth one? You ready for already too?

Speaker 2 (02:55:23):
Okay, but see you got that motherfucker the truth Brofinitly Noah,
but you got you gotta allow people to God damn
because you see the growth and be a part of it,
because you allow us see all.

Speaker 1 (02:55:32):
The other ship. That's fact.

Speaker 2 (02:55:35):
Appreciate you, bro, Hey, y'all go tap into the big
fat network. Man, follow us on Big Fat Network. Appreciate
y'all pulling up shout out Jay, shout out stream can't and.

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