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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Usa, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo yo Yo.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Jess is out today.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Charlemagne is a little late and it's Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning to you. What's up right? How you feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What a weekend? What a weekend. Salute to everybody that
was out in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
It was kind of weird for me because I was
out in Tampa DJing, but it was a tailgate party
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Atlanta Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How was it?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
It was cool?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It was It was a great game. But I'm a
Giants fan and my Giants played at the same time.
All missed out, not really because they got blown out,
so I really didn't miss out.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But it was dope.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So salute to everybody out in Tampa. So I really
shot there yesterday and it shot right back. So I
got back like midnight last night. But to everybody I
ran into Tampa. Tampa had some of the most amazing food.
It was just a great time just to get away
for a day or so. But got a great show
for you today. Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's
the co founder of The Daily Wire. He has a
new book, Lions and Scavengers, The True Story of America.
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So we're gonna be kicking it with him and talking
about all the things that he believes that we might
not necessarily believe. But a great conversation is still a
great conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
How your team did over the weekend?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Uh, just play better than I thought he were gonna
play better. I'm just glad football's back overall. Yeah, you
and me both, because those week is a tough one.
There's nothing really to watch, and baseball, to me, it's
not good. Into the playoffs. Playoffs that's when baseball gets good.
Besides that, it's just like a last month.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Win a game, lose a game. Yeah, so let's get
the show. Cracker, we got front page news. Me and
Mia be joining us and in let me know how
your weekend was. Eight hundred and five eight five, one
oh five one. If you need the vin phone line
to wide open, it's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Let's get in some front page news. Start off with
sports now. Last night, of course, football is a back
Let's get to week one. The Commanders beat the Giants
twenty one six. The Jaguars beat the Panthers twenty six
to ten. Coach beat the Dolphins thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Three to eight.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The Charges beat the Chiefs twenty seven twenty one, The
Stealers beat the Jets thirty four to twenty two. Cardinals
beat the Saints twenty thirteen. Buccaneers beat the Falcons twenty
three twenty, Raiders beat the Patriots twenty thirteen. Broncos beat
the Titans twenty twelve, Rams beat the Texans fourteen to nine.
Packers beat the Lions twenty seven thirteen. The Bills barely
beat the Ravens forty one forty they actually came back.
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Bengals beat the Browns seventeen sixteen, and lastly, the forty
Nineers beat the Seahawks seventeen thirteen. Giants school, I said
that was the first one, I said, Nope, I said it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I told you stop.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Running your damn mouth facking like my Cowboys is gonna
be the only team in the NFC East that sucks
this year.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The two soccond teams are playing next week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Told you already that the Giants and the Cowboys gonna
be looking up at the Eagles and Redskins.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
All year long. Well, the two socket teams play next week.
What's up to me?
Speaker 8 (02:46):
What's up y'all?
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Good morning, Happy Monday, Good morning, maybe good morning. We
start this morning in Chicago, where Illinois Governor J. B.
Pritzer is blasting President Trump as a wanna be dictator
after Trump shared an a I generated image over the
weekend showing himself as a law enforcement officer, which.
Speaker 8 (03:04):
Chicago burning in the background.
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Now the image it was captioned, I love the smell
of deportations in the morning. Chicago About to find out
why it's called the Department of War.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Now.
Speaker 9 (03:17):
This post comes just one day after Trump signed an
executive order renaming the Department the Defense Department to the
Department of War. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson he called the
posts beneath the honor of our nation and warned that
Trump wants to occupy our city and break our constitution.
He already signed a protective order Mayor Johnson did to
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block any unapproved federal troop deployment. Now Pritzker he is
echoing that, saying Trump is threatening to go to war
with an American city and vowing Illinois will not be intimidated.
On Sunday, Trump tried to downplay that backlash, telling reporters
we are not going to war, We're going to clean
up our cities.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
That's not war. That's common sense.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
However, his Border chief Tom Home into CNN that Chicago
should absolutely expect enforcement action this week.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Absolutely, you can expect action.
Speaker 10 (04:09):
And most sanctuary cities across the country, President Crunch's prioritized
sanctuary cities because sanctuary cities knowingly release illegal alien public
safety threats to the streets every day. That's where the
problem is. We don't have that problem in Florida, where
every sheriff in chief works force right or Texas. So
we got to send additional resources to the problem marriage
which are sanctuary cities.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (04:30):
I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But if you're saying that you want to go into
these cities and clean up, you know, I legal immigration,
that's one thing. But to declare war, that's right, Our
seem like are implied that you're declaring war on the city.
You can't be upset when people have backlash today.
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Exactly exactly, and you know there's been some backlash or
some confusion over who does what. So, the National Guard
does not arrest immigrants. ICE agents Immigration enforcement does. But
with all the talk of sitting in the guards, a
lot of people are asking if it's for crime or
if it's to arrest legal aliens. And so the governor J. B. Pritsker,
he spoke to MSNBC this weekend about the role of
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the National Guard and what they're exactly cooked they can
and cannot do.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
They are not allowed to do law enforcement.
Speaker 12 (05:16):
They can come into the city, but they are restricted
essentially to federal buildings. Protecting federal buildings. If that's what
they intend to do, that is legal. But they're not
allowed to simply come into the neighborhoods and start imposing
their will.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
So Prisker went on to say that ICE presence in
Chicago is already surging, with local officials warning as many
as three hundred agents may already be in the city.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
ICE and other federal teams.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Are expected to operate out of a naval station called
Great Lakes for about thirty days. Over the weekend, protesters
gathered outside that base to protest the expected immigration crackdown.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
And switching gears to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
Where we're Republicans are stepping up their crack down on Washington, DC.
They're rolling out fourteen new bills aimed at tightening federal
control as part of President Trump's crime initiative on the
nation's capital, but some of the proposals are drawing sharp criticism.
Among the most controversial bills is one that would give
Congress veto power over local laws by requiring every DC
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council bill to undergo a sixty day Congressional review before
it can take effect. Another would lower the age for
juveniles to be tried as adults from sixteen to fourteen
for violent crimes, and a third would repel the Incarceration
Reduction Act, which currently allows people convicted of serious crimes
as miners to request lighter sentences after serving at least
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fifteen years.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Now. Local leaders in DC are calling this a power grab.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
They say that the crime in DC has already dropped
by fifty percent over the last two years.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
DC Attorney General Brian schwap He.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Is suing the Trump administration over the National Guard deployed.
He's arguing that federal government is policing the city without
local consent, and over the weekend, thousands of protesters they
took to the streets in DC to rally against Trump's
federal crackdowns.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
A demonstration was called We Are All d C.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
It was aimed at sending a clear message that residents
won't tolerate what they see as a militarized takeover. Meanwhile,
that guard deployment that began on August eleventh, it has
been extended to November thirtieth, so that is quite a
while for them to be in Washington, DC.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All right, well, thank you Mimi.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
All right, well, coming up at seven, if your electric
bill keeps climbing, will show you what may be behind
the SPI.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
That's at seven, all.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Right, everybody else, get it off your chest. Eight hundred
five eight five one oh five one. If you need
to vent, phone lines a wide open again eight hundred
five eight five one five.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
One, get it off your chest. Call us up right now.
It's the breakfast logan morning.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
The Breakfast club. Wait dog, this is your time to
get it off your chest. Five five one. We want
to hear from you on the breakfast club.
Speaker 13 (08:11):
Allow, who's this tea?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Good morning? Can you take us off bluetooth. I'm sorry,
can't hear me better? That's better. What's the matter, man?
Why you sound like something's bothering.
Speaker 14 (08:21):
You and it's not bothering me.
Speaker 15 (08:22):
I'm just not figure out what's going on.
Speaker 14 (08:24):
Me and my boyfriend. His mother watches our baby in
the morning or whatever, and this is a blessing between
our paper for daycare. But we got in a big argument.
He made a comment that you know, his family does
more for the baby than my side of the family
during the argument, and that's because I got a mass
potato when I was thirteen, so my family's really here
or there. Nevertheless, like that would makes me so weird
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when I draw my baby off for the morning, says,
because I really don't know that conversation that's been behind
the closed doors.
Speaker 16 (08:51):
Like he loves me.
Speaker 14 (08:52):
We have a great relationship, literally, she's the best ever.
We never had a problem. We've been together like years
plus sol So it's just weird and I'm dropping my
baby off in the morning because it's like I don't
know if I still had.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
No comment, yes, yes, yes, yes you should yes, listen,
you know you know I'm realizing about humans.
Speaker 11 (09:14):
We don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You know what I'm saying, like, we don't know how
to tell people simply hey, that hurt my feelings and
then have a conversation about it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But was the argument with the grandmama? Was it it matter?
Speaker 14 (09:24):
It was with my boyfriend and that his mom, you know,
or his side of the family does more, I don't think.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
So have the conversation with your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
With your boyfriend, grandma might not even know. Grandma not
gonna take it off for her grandchild.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
My point is communication is important. We don't know how
to communicate. And you know, I was watching the Young
Thug Banks interview this week and it's reconfirmed what I've
always thought. We don't know how to simply tell somebody, hey,
you hurt my feelings and didn't have a conversation about it.
Speaker 11 (09:52):
Talk to your boyfriend. It's just that simple. It's really
that simple.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Good luck, And don't feel anyway that grandma not gonna
care about what was going on with her grandchild.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, now your boyfriend he hurt your feelings, and
have a conversation about it.
Speaker 14 (10:07):
I will, because you know, I gotta work on my
communications too. But it's just like you never know what
a mom and son. Now that I have a son,
you never know that relationship. And again I don't think
it was more her. I think stuff was just said
out of anger both ways, you know, but it does
makes me feel, you know, weird, My.
Speaker 15 (10:22):
Baby off are like, hey, did you say that you
did more?
Speaker 14 (10:25):
That was like maybe he should set the tone.
Speaker 15 (10:27):
And then I go in and have that woman too
in my conversation.
Speaker 14 (10:30):
Maybe I just think to take baby.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And the reason I push therapy so much to people
because all therapy teaches you how to do is open up,
be vulnerable, and know how to communicate.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Use your goddamn words.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
They tell us this when we're kids all the time,
but don't nobody know how to Don't nobody know how
to use their words in their adults?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Hello, who's this.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Carolina? Now?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Ryan says, your call a head for a specific reason
and a specific reason only go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Three?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What's the first one?
Speaker 13 (10:56):
One?
Speaker 17 (10:57):
I want to start with Lauren la Rover?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What he said to shoot his shot with Lorn La Rosa?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Go Hey, Lauren, how you doing?
Speaker 18 (11:05):
I'm doing good? How are you?
Speaker 11 (11:06):
You have no taste? Will continue doing well?
Speaker 19 (11:09):
You bro express a little bit too much if we
need to make you pull back, I communicate.
Speaker 17 (11:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Go Ryan, how yeah, Lauren?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 18 (11:23):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You got it? I got a shot?
Speaker 18 (11:26):
A shot at what?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You don't even know you You don't even say nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
How you can I take you out one black next time?
You and Charlotte, this, that and the other like you?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You come on, man.
Speaker 18 (11:35):
No I'm not I'm not even outside in the gym.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
No more.
Speaker 18 (11:37):
I'm doing good over here. I can't even a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You got too many? Now, man, we call her, We
go about it the.
Speaker 18 (11:43):
Right way anyway you like? Hey, Lauren, Hi, good morning,
I got a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah you sound well?
Speaker 18 (11:51):
Yep, go ahead.
Speaker 13 (11:52):
My little brother J d J. Queer, I was one
of her in mentor by you.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That was a terrible seguent. You know, I just you
was buy.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You hang up?
Speaker 18 (12:05):
They hang up like you know what?
Speaker 10 (12:07):
I need me?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
There you go? Get it on.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You still hung up on the man, even though he
asked a mentorship for his little brother.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, get it off. I don't know why people support.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Five one five on.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
You need to hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club, right right?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ray yo, Charla Man Davi, what up are we lost?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 20 (12:33):
I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
Speaker 21 (12:38):
Get on the phone right now.
Speaker 22 (12:39):
He will tell you what it is.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Lies.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 23 (12:43):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hey, good morning. Get it off your chest.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
Crap, this is.
Speaker 23 (12:48):
The im Florida. I am just getting off my chest.
I broke up with my boyfriend over the weekend. I
found out he was keeping on me with this at
least the minute Brown tea like it was crazy, But
I allow my standards to deal with that man completely,
like went against my pipe. And if I'm going to
deal with the same track anyway, I'm going back to
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my saw doctor hands.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So, so you're a stripper, Andy cheated with you with
another stripper.
Speaker 23 (13:14):
No, I'm not a stripper. Okay, Now he cheated with
a supper. I found out about the surfer over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Her teeth for Brown, what her body looked like, though you.
Speaker 23 (13:25):
Look like it, And that's what made the worst. That's
what the words it was bad though horrible, legal like
it was. I don't even argue with the man. I
just I just saw my fust in the middle of
the night.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And let what's her instagram? So you might you a
little you might be a little bit jaded. You need
to let us.
Speaker 11 (13:42):
Judge whether or not you know she's trash or man.
Speaker 24 (13:46):
I don't have her instagram. I give you my instagram,
but you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm not interested in seeing you. You got cheated though,
like you don't want to see. I want to see.
I want to see what he cheated with. Well, I'm sorry,
you have to go your instagram.
Speaker 23 (14:00):
It's not even worth trash.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
What's your instagram? Let me look? What's your instagram?
Speaker 24 (14:06):
My instagram is Pineapple at the Story of Joy v O.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Y Ah, let's see.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's not coming up for me. Nope, it's not coming up.
I'm sorry you got cheated on?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, I really am.
Speaker 23 (14:21):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It was only it.
Speaker 18 (14:22):
Was Are you really sorry? He's a smirking pineapple for
you don't believe him?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm sorry, sorry you got cheated on.
Speaker 11 (14:30):
How old is your boyfriend?
Speaker 18 (14:33):
Oh my god, too old to be cheating.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
How old are you?
Speaker 23 (14:35):
Tell me about it? Tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
How old are you?
Speaker 11 (14:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Lord, have mercy? But I'm sorry, mama, it's okay.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
Why do I go to bread.
Speaker 23 (14:47):
We don't even find.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm more, it ain't worth it. How old the scripple
shut up?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I know, but the face she looked in the face jesus,
hey man, I'm sorry pineapp.
Speaker 23 (15:00):
You keep what is the last letter about?
Speaker 7 (15:05):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know what she said, just me neither have
a good week. Have a good week though.
Speaker 11 (15:09):
Forty three years old is too old to be cheating.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yo?
Speaker 17 (15:13):
What up? This long?
Speaker 13 (15:15):
Lo?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Get it off your chest?
Speaker 15 (15:16):
Low?
Speaker 13 (15:17):
Yeah, I ain't got nothing to give off my chest.
Say my birthdays to feel good day.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
She's not here this morning.
Speaker 13 (15:23):
Oh oh, what I show the man?
Speaker 10 (15:25):
Yo?
Speaker 13 (15:25):
Listen, man, Charlotte mane, Charlotte mae. Hit me out to
my birthday.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Happy born day, King, Listen.
Speaker 13 (15:30):
I ain't asious for nothing. I answer for no money.
All I'm asking for is to come up here and
throw from slippers that you always be wearing. Be just
let me throw them joints out if you stop fresh,
she was good.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Ry for your birthday.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
You want him?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You want to cut something that concerns his slippers.
Speaker 13 (15:45):
I'm tired of them slippers every time he post them drinks.
I want to throw them drinks out, like, I don't
understand you. You you in New York, man, throw some
joints for your steek.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You think I care about being in goddamn New York.
My slippers look better than this city, right, they do.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Look better than the city is bad, but they are
better in the city. All right, Thank you, Happy birthday, brother,
Good luck, bro.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I'm never getting ready of these slippers. I made
history and the slippers keep them. The slippers got me
in the radio.
Speaker 17 (16:10):
Heart, Yeah, already in the morning.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't know if the slippers got you definitely? Did
you mean being here comfortable every morning got me in
the radio Hall of Fame?
Speaker 11 (16:18):
Yes, it's the slippers.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
Oh yeah, coming down here in Za.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, I'm not here.
Speaker 17 (16:26):
I'm from Detroit to whatever. I got a question as
a father and a grandfather about the Epstein case. Yes, sir,
now that Trump has said that Epstein took them girls
from his spa, he admitted that as the father, we
know at fifteen and sixteen, we have to get our
child work from it.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
We know our kid at work.
Speaker 17 (16:46):
What did they kill their mom? And when they came
looking for their daughters because they didn't tell him Epstein
took him. Well, I think we killed the family.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When I was watching the documentary, it seems like a
lot of them didn't tell their parents. A lot of
them they knew to focus on kids that didn't have money,
parents that were working and not around their kids too much.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And these kids would come.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Right after school, so it'd be like two three hours
right after school with parents necessarily didn't know where their
children were.
Speaker 17 (17:10):
That's boys down to what I was thinking. Because even
with the employees seeing them little girls working, they seen
them clark out, leave off the property off camera. How
we know Trump and Epstein didn't have gooms waiting on
them in advance and snatched them girls up? Because Trump
admitted he knew that Epstein took them, Why didn't he
say that twenty years ago? That's my only question. What
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did they tell the family?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
What do you saying?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You asking?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Why does someone my parents didn't tell?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
What are you asking?
Speaker 13 (17:39):
You know?
Speaker 17 (17:40):
What I'm saying is when the families came acting at
their job, have y'all seen my daughter? They saying no,
she left work. But Trump just admitted Epstein took them.
So when the families came looking for their daughters, Why
didn't they say Epstein took them?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Are you what are you basicing this off the I
don't know is this off the documentary because I haven't
watched the docorlid Trump.
Speaker 17 (18:02):
Just say this what Trump said himself, Epstein was a
creek because he took girls from him from his spot.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
No, yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was the spot.
He said that they used to work. He took employees
from him. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 17 (18:14):
Okay, my fan get it. You know Epstein took them
when Epstein was on trial, Why didn't you say Epstein
took them girls?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't think he said that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He was that he was taking them for the uh,
he was taking employees of sexual Yeah, he.
Speaker 11 (18:27):
Just said he was taking employees. He said, he said,
he said.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
He said.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It was over his Spa workers at mar A Lago.
He said he kicked him out of his club for
hiring workers away from mar A Lago.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
He didn't say that they were sex work.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, he said they were under age. He said they
was taking his workers, taking his employees.
Speaker 17 (18:41):
Okay, they need they need to look ato that. And
one of the last things look at that video when
Trump and Epstein standing there with them girl dancing in
front of them. Look at them girls faces them girls
fifteen and sixteen years old. Man, all right, brother, just
look at that when you get a chair.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm pretty sure that was established stry. Thank you, brother, Yeah,
get it off your chest.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one. Now
we got the ladist with Lauren.
Speaker 20 (19:05):
We do.
Speaker 18 (19:05):
We aren't going to get into the young thug interview.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It was a lot.
Speaker 25 (19:08):
It was.
Speaker 18 (19:09):
It was I mean it was almost three hours.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Old, the whole thing. Every single minute. I thought it
was incredible.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
I thought it was incredible. Couldn't have sat down with
anybody else. It was the perfect interview. I don't think
he needs to say anything else to anyone else, but
we're gonna break it.
Speaker 11 (19:23):
Nobody else could have conducted that like Banks. For a
number of reasons.
Speaker 18 (19:27):
It made you guy. I mean, you guys are a
little bit more mature than a lot of other people.
Speaker 19 (19:30):
But I feel like it humanized him in a way too,
because the conversation has been so stupid around all of
this stuff. It made me really look at this from
like a bigger picture of like to help people should
be getting with different things, Like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Some of it seemed to look seems it's still was
a little stupid to me, but I just loved the
way the fact that he was open, and I love
how Banks controlled.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (19:50):
Yeah, but we're gonna get into it because I think
one of my takeaways was, even though that stuff is stupid,
sometimes when you're raising certain things, no matter how far
you get, it's hard to get away from it. And
now he's opening up and you see the help he needs,
right Like y'all walked away feeling like he needs some
help and some Yeah, we won't talk about all of it.
It was a great interview, so we're gonna break it down.
I'm take some time with the interview and y'all reaction
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to the interview as well.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
All Right, we'll get to the latest with Lauren next.
It's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 5 (20:19):
Everybody.
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We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest
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She gets them somebody that knows somebody to get the detail.
Speaker 18 (20:31):
I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
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And she'd be having the latest on That's the Law
The Latest with Lauren La Rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little bit everything on.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 19 (20:47):
So Young Thugs sat down for an exclusive interview with
a big bank on his show Perspectives.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yep, that you can listen to on The Black Effect.
iHeartRadio podcast network.
Speaker 18 (20:56):
Yeah, he's one of my Black Effect cousins.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (20:59):
So the intervie, you was, I mean three hours there
a great job. Yes, it was a great job. So
they opened the interview. It was very real from the beginning.
They started having a conversation in the beginning about whether
Young Thug learned his lesson because we've been seeing so
much back and forth with Thug online and then all
these jail calls leaking.
Speaker 18 (21:15):
Let's take a listen to that because.
Speaker 20 (21:16):
I'm gonna keep real with this line.
Speaker 22 (21:18):
Coming out of jail, it's like you you want to learn,
you ain't learned your less any calls talking on the phone, Like.
Speaker 20 (21:24):
What the hell want this? Like, I know you was
in the praying right, that'solot, do not understand your prayers?
Speaker 26 (21:28):
Got er, Yeah, you understand that, but you also listening
to people tell you like while you're the wizard. You
ain't going to prison, and then you you gotta understand.
I was in jail three years, bro like our praying
three whole year. At some point I started thinking, like
the prayers ain't working. Like I'm going through every day
I'm looking at my big friend and do what they do.
I'm looking at this. I'm looking at something and it's
making me feel I don't feel it. But I ain't
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never been talk I ain't never been to talk about
nobody else in my life on the phone with nobody else.
I've never been that time I've been. The last few days,
I've been sitting around like what was that, thinking like
what I was doing? He said, you say, I think
I would.
Speaker 20 (22:00):
So up, and I just felt like it was just over.
Speaker 26 (22:03):
Like I'm just sitting in jail twenty four hours on
twenty three and I'm in a sale twenty three hours.
Speaker 20 (22:08):
At this point, I'm just like, man, I don't give
a life. It ain't it ain't what I'm thinking.
Speaker 26 (22:11):
It is like I'm just talking now at this point,
I'm just talking. But it crazy for it is all
these conversations that I had on the phone I.
Speaker 20 (22:16):
Also had with the same I was talking about on
the phones.
Speaker 26 (22:19):
So that's why I don't seem weird between us, me
and them, because I didn't have these same conversations with Wayne.
Speaker 20 (22:24):
I don't heard they have these same conversations with Savage.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We talked like me and we brothers.
Speaker 17 (22:27):
We talked.
Speaker 26 (22:28):
You got to understand, like my standpoint, I'm locked up.
I'm on the phone talking to my girl every day.
This is the only person I'm talking to on the phone.
It's the only person that I can talk to.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The first twenty minutes of this conversation was Bank setting
the table for who Jeffrey is.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
His upbringing. That was dope before they even got to that.
Speaker 19 (22:46):
Yes, and a part of that in that opening was
from what I took from it was because it was weird.
It was like the interview was for us to get
this information. But I feel like Big Bank did a
really good job, almost like playing therapists. So it was
like him putting Thug in a mindset of like, think
about who you were before so many different things came
into your life, and let's go back to that, because
right now you're thinking is corrupted.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Listen, first of all, drop on the clue bombs for
Banks right, phenomenal job. There is nobody who could have
conducted that interview because regional identity in media matters, like
Atlanta needed to talk to Atlanta. I feel like Banks,
having acknowledged the different nuances different politics in Atlanta, made
this one of the best most compelling interviews I've seen
(23:28):
with a rapper in a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
But the respect was there as well.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Oh that's the respect was there too, So when the
questions were asked, it wasn't based off of trying to
get a headline.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was based off of respect.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well you can tell he said it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Thug respects Banks because Banks was really in the screech
of atl and Banks understands the inner workings of discreet
politics in Atlanta, and he knows exactly how the screechs
feel in Atlanta about the situation.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
But more importantly, like you just said, Lauren, Banks is
a man has done the.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Healing work on himself, so he was able to conduct
this conversation with a level of empathy and accountability that
a lot of other folks couldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And uh, thug needs to be on his healing journey
because that man is hurt.
Speaker 19 (24:04):
I agree now they do get into the gun of conversation,
which I also thought was handled very well because Big
Bank he played Devil's advocate a lot and challenged Thug
on some things a lot. Let's sake, listen to young
Thug loves Gonna and brotherhood.
Speaker 20 (24:18):
I love you, Bro, so you still love Bro. I
poured so much into this.
Speaker 26 (24:22):
I can't even hate him, Bro, I thought, and jail,
I thought I hated him when he took the police.
When they did that, I thought I hated My girl
made me realize, like, well, you don't hate him, you
just mad at him. You don't hate him, Bro, Well
I don't wish no ill, no ill will on him,
no ill sitting doctor man. It was because I was
just angry, but it seemed like nobody understanding why I'm a.
Speaker 20 (24:44):
Bro was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I understand what Thug is coming from. The hardest thing
for men to say people in general, is yo, you
hurt my feelings. Thugs feelings were hurt. He felt betrayal.
He's sitting in jail, and that man was hurt and
projecting that pin onto a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think people understand, he said, nobody
understood why he was hurting. No, we all understood why
you were hurt somebody that you considered the front.
Speaker 18 (25:08):
No, I understood it.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But I think I understood exactly why he was hurt.
I feel like.
Speaker 19 (25:12):
Thugget is responding to a lot of the public perception
and reaction. And the reaction was not we get why
Thuggets hurt. The reaction was I had theug you turn
the fingers on Gunn and now they're on you now, yep, now.
Speaker 18 (25:24):
But that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 19 (25:25):
He's like, he's literally said in this interview a couple
of times, I'm here because I feel like, as a man,
I need to speak to certain things because people are
questioning my moves and yeah, his morals.
Speaker 18 (25:35):
He feels like Gunna has not spoken to anything.
Speaker 19 (25:37):
Now let's take a listen, because Big Bank did get
into a conversation he had with Gunna when Gonna first
came home, and it was the first time that thug
had heard this information.
Speaker 18 (25:44):
Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 22 (25:45):
Reason why slim redonway slimy with Gunna because he already
put the word on stat and he got a stand
with the.
Speaker 20 (25:52):
Not saying this right or wrong. It's like how they
make these their friendship or whatever.
Speaker 22 (25:57):
They cambaradery with it, and then I come home I
feel And then I talked to Gunn when he first
got out of jail.
Speaker 20 (26:02):
I was trying to get angry with him.
Speaker 22 (26:04):
He was like, man, I ain't real about none, saying,
I know my brother in that bottle, I was just
in mine.
Speaker 20 (26:10):
Ain't right?
Speaker 22 (26:10):
Whatever on your fear to me? If it ain't when
you get out of jail, then my brother, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I love it.
Speaker 22 (26:16):
I know he loved me, he knowing, he knowing I
want to did that. I trouble exed him, Folks, is
this gonna affect my brother?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Listen, he should use this opportunity to forgive Gunner. Because
I'm listening to the conbo. You know, as I was
listening to the conbo with Banks, it seems like, you know,
thug got like I hate calling him thug. Jeff has
a lot of understanding towards everyone else and why they
caught please, but you know, with Gunner, he took it
a lot more personal. Also because I think of how
Gunner might have handled it when he came home. He
specifically said Gunnar wasn't looking off his mom. He just
(26:48):
felt like Gunnar wasn't, you know, dare for him the
way he should have been.
Speaker 19 (26:51):
Yes, but also too, he talked a lot about the
fact that the other please only happened because, according to Thug, yes,
because when Gunnar switched the conversation about what why else
it was everybody basically had to get out of the dodge.
Speaker 18 (27:02):
So so yeah, it would have more weight on it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But that was that was that conversation when he said
yes ma'am, yes, ma'am, when he was like his wife
hed a gang. Yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes.
Speaker 19 (27:11):
And if you guys remember when the when all that
was happening, back then, it was like one after the other,
like one player the other.
Speaker 18 (27:17):
But Gunna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 19 (27:18):
But Young Thug broke it down and said, well, Gunn,
it's plea happened first, and they just basically.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Had they were trying to they were the narrative that
was a gang wasn't what they were what they wanted.
But he said, Gonna was the first to affirmed it.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Was a game.
Speaker 19 (27:32):
And you would have thought that the attorneys were having conversations.
He said they were to a certain extent, but Gunnar
was like on the island by himself now in the
next hour, because there's just a little bit more I
want to get to because we've been have also a
lot of conversations about Hotlanta is in shamboos right now
right they seem so divided and we don't know what
leanna to be that. I think a big bank did
a really good job also of having a real O
G conversation with Thug about why all this needs to
(27:52):
stop and how we move on. So we're gonna button
it up with that at the top of the next
hour when we come back.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Job Banks, amazing phenomenal job.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I think also too, we got to remember too, remember
Thug signed in what twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, i'mb a
Stone that came out in twenty and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So the fact that we still have in these street.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Conversations five years later, ten years later, that's the problem.
We have to know, that's the problem. We have to
get to a place where we get out the streets.
Like when we say the streets is whack, the streets
is corny, right, because it leads to nowhere.
Speaker 18 (28:19):
Well, they tried to have that bank tried to have
that conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's just not Atlanta or they everywhere. They had that conversation,
and I thought they had it very well.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I'm just telling you, the hardest thing for men
to say to other men is you hurt my feelings
straight up. Once you say that, once you tell somebody, yo,
you hurt my feelings, then y'all can have a real
honest conversation about that. That's all therapy teachers you had
to do, is to open up, be vulnerable and communicate.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, we'll get to it next some more next hour.
Now when we come back. We got front page news,
and then Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's the
co founder of the Daily Wire. So don't move. It's
to Breakfast Club. Good morning on everybody. It's DJ MV
jes Hilaris Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Let's get back in some front page news. So off
for some quick sports now. Yesterday the Commanders beat the
Giants twenty one six. Jaguars beat the Panthers twenty six.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You to be breathing past the Giants got their ass
busted yesterday yeh, you say it real fast in the
beginning to try to throw people off. I don't like
that we lost, because you know, when the Cowboys lose,
you be in here, cheering, cheering chair. And I told
you the Giants gonna stup. By the way, God bless Theierra. Yeah,
I told your friends weren't gonna work for the Giants.
When she was here, I told her that she was good.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Yes, okay too.
Speaker 18 (29:29):
I wonder if she was nervous.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
It's only one game. The Bills beat the Ravens forty one, forty.
Packers beat the Lines twenty seven thirteen, Rams beat the
Texans fourteen nine, Broncos beat the Titans twenty twelve, Raiders
beat the Pages twenty thirteen, Buccaneers beat the Falcons twenty
three twenty. Cardinals beat the Saints. The Steelers beat the
Jets thirty four to thirty two. Forty nine Ers beat
the Seahawks, and Tonight and Monday Night Football, the Bikers
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take on the Bears at eight fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What's up, Mimi, what's up?
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Good morning, Good morning, Lauren, good morning, meet me morning.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
All right, So, the race for New York City mayor
it may be erupting into political chaos, with President Donald
Trump trying to reshape the field and Democrats are deeply
divided in progressive nominees Zoran Mandami fighting to hold the
party together ahead of the general election in November. Now,
this all started back in June when Mandonnia, a thirty
three year old Democratic socialist and state assemblymen, pulled off
(30:24):
a stunning upset, defeating former Governor Andrew Cuomo by twelve
points in the Democratic primary.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
But instead of uniting behind him, many top.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Democrats are refusing to endorse him, including Senate Majority Leader
Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, both from
New York. Now, tensions are escalating after reports surface that
President Trump's aides have quietly been pressuring candidates to drop out,
including current mayor excuse me, Eric.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Adams, who's running for reelection.
Speaker 17 (30:56):
Now.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
According to multiple reports, Trump's team, they're floating the idea
of offering Adams an ambassadorship or another high profile role
if he exits the race. That move what clear the
path for Cuomo, who is running as an independent. At
a press conference late last week, Mayor Adams he denied
that he is dropping out of the race.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Let's hear what he had to say.
Speaker 27 (31:18):
Andrew Cuomo is a snake and a liar. I am
in this race and I'm the only one that can
beat Mendonnie. Andrew has had a career of pushing black
candidates out of races.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That must stop with me.
Speaker 27 (31:35):
I'm running and I'm going to beat Mandonnie, and I'm
going to continue the success that's the city has witnessed.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
Despite that clear message, sources have revealed that Mayor Adams
is scheduled to be in Washington this week for a
White House sit down. Now again, this all comes amidst
swirling speculation that President Trump his team is considering offer him,
offering him a predominant role, something like ambassador to Saudi
Arabia or position in housing in urban development.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Meanwhile, Mandy, go ahead say.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Maybe I don't think Adams are Cuomo is his name?
Curtis Silwell has the na Well, I don't think any
of them can beat Mundani if the race is currently
the way that it is, because all three, all three
of them are gonna split the vote. Yeah, that's Adams
and Mundanie head up? Are Cuomo and Mundani head up?
More so Cuomo, I think you know Cuomo would win,
(32:30):
but if with all three of them in the race, no,
they're not gonna Beatmundana.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Yeah, so I think that's why they're trying to pull
out Adams right, so that they can center the votes
on Cuomo. And then this weekend, Bernie Sanders and AOC
they had a rally h they're trying to get folks
behind mundami. It was in Brooklyn and they said that
Democrats are sending the wrong message by staying silent. And
(32:54):
we're also talking about Governor Kathy Holkl. She has met
with Mundammie multiple times, but she has endorse him either.
So the progressives are calling on those top Democrats who
get behind him. They're saying it only strengthens Trump's influence
and positions.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Like you just said, Cuomo as a comeback kid. So
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
And so if your electricity bill has gone up lately,
you are not imagining it. Power prices they are climbing
faster than almost anything else that you're paying for, and
it's shaping up to be a major.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Political fight ahead of the election season.
Speaker 17 (33:31):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
According to the latest Consumer Price Index, electricity prices have
jumped five point five percent in the past year, double
the rate of inflation, and experts say the rising bills
are about to become a hot button issue for voters now.
Back in October of twenty twenty four, President Trump he
promised at the time he was a candidate, but he
promised to slash the electricity bills by fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
So that was almost a year ago. Let's remind ourselves
of what he had to say back then.
Speaker 28 (33:58):
We're also cut in energy and electricity prices and half
fifty percent within twelve months, including for all people and families,
not just companies. So ready, your energy bill will be
cut from January twenty will be cut by fifty percent
in twelve months.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, five doll fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
So that was back in October of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
But so far prices are moving in the opposite direction,
and experts say Trump's own policies could be making things worse.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
His administration has.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Cut subsidies for wind and solar energy, fast tracked construction
of power hungry AI data centers, and push exports of
US natural gas overseas, and that means less supplies here
at home, driving prices higher, and Democrats they are seizing
on the issue, blaming Trump for what they call an
energy crisis, and energy experts say the full impact though
(34:54):
of this the policies they haven't hit yet. Electricity tends
to rise with lag as fossil fuels are exported and
less renewable energy gets built. Consumers could see even steeper
bills in the coming months, but for now, both parties
are pointing fingers and many of the households, many consumers
are left to fit that bill with no relief in sight.
(35:16):
So we'll keep watching that. And finally, you all, we
have a powerball winner. Actually we have two powerball winners,
one in Texas and one in Missouri, so they will
split that grand prize I think four hundred and ten
million dollars each.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Wow, congrassat.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
So, the the ticket in Texas was sold about twenty
five miles out of care County. And if you remember,
care County was that place where they had that massive
flooding back in July where one hundred and twenty people
pass away. So each person, though, like I said, will
take away four hundred and ten million dollars. And if
you're hoping for a big press conference with everyone carrying
(35:57):
their checks, don't hold your breath because both in Texas
and in Missouri you can remain anonymous.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Very smart individuals, Yes right, very smart individuals. God bless them.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I hope that they remain anonymous and they understand financial
literacy and they live some very fruitful eyes. You know
you'll be going crazy after they win, win those big lotteries.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
They sure do so well. That's your front page news.
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Visit bi nnews dot com.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Thank you, Mimi, thank you. Now when we come back,
Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's the co founder
of The Daily Wire. He has a new book, Lions
and Scavengers, The True Story of America. We'll talk to
him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Everybody is dj n V.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Just Hilarias Charlamage, the gud We are the Breakfast Club.
Lalla Rosa is here as well, and we got a
special guest in the building.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yes, indeed we have Ben Shapiro. Welcome.
Speaker 29 (36:58):
Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate Yeah, doing okay, right, yeah,
thank god.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
BN's got a new book out lines and Scavengers The
True Story of America.
Speaker 11 (37:06):
Very interesting read.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You define the Lion as people who uphold biblical values,
individual responsibility, and moral do yes, and you contrast them
with scavengers when you say demand entitlement, blame systemic oppression,
and lack purpose.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Expound on that.
Speaker 29 (37:20):
Sure, So I think the basic division is not a
right left division.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
You know.
Speaker 29 (37:24):
In the book, I actually tried really hard not to
turn it into a right left division because I don't
think that it actually is. And I think it's also
an internal battle inside our own heart that we get
up in the morning and you have to decide when
you face down the problems of the day whether you're
going to be somebody who takes responsibility, does your duty,
gets out of bed and actually decides to do something
meaningful in the world, or they can be somebody who
looks at the problems in your life, blames some sort
(37:44):
of shadowy system and then complains about that. None of
that is to claim that you know there aren't systems
that exist that are bad and that need to be fixed.
But you need evidence and you need actual correctives to
those systems in order to actually practically fix those systems.
So the contrast that I'm making here is between people
who decide that they want to build, you know, create
social fabric, be innovative, be risk takers, and people who
(38:08):
simply want to tear down. And you see, you know,
for example, in some of these college protests, people who
are marching together who have nothing in common except that
they just don't like the system. And they don't even
have a replacement for the system. It's just that the
system itself must be to blame for all of their problems.
That's sort of the basic contrast.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I'm sorry, I know we just jumped out the window.
For people that don't know who Ben Shapiro's, Let's start
from the beginning. Explain to people who Ben Shapiro is,
and where you stought, where you came from, and et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
So they know.
Speaker 29 (38:34):
Sure. I mean, my basic job is that I'm co
founder of The Daily Wire, which is the second largest
conservative media organization in the country after Fox News. Probably.
I have a podcast called The Ben Shapiro Show that's
about ten years old now and maybe the biggest conservative
podcast in the country. And you know, my sort of
early beginnings where I grew up in Burbank, California. Thank god,
(38:54):
I had the highest form of privilege, which was fantastic parents.
And I grew up in a very small, like eleven
hundred square foot house with three sisters, one bedroom for us,
one for my parents, one bathroom for six people. And
you know, I've been again privileged to live in the
greatest country in the world. And so went to UCLA,
went to Harvard Law School. I've been doing commentary on
politics since I was about seventeen years old. I'm now
(39:16):
forty one.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So that's one of the politics. So early at seventeen,
what did you see this or though I want to
do this? So what didn't you like that made you
want to do?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 29 (39:22):
I mean I was always fascinated just by history, and
because I was a big reader, I skipped a couple
of grades. I went to college when I was sixteen,
and so because I loved reading it, because I loved
history and politics, I just got very, very into it.
And you know, we live in interesting times now. I
thought they were interesting back when I was seventeen. It
is way more interesting and insane now. I feel like
an alternative timeline somehow spun off into into Elon's you know,
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fever dream, but it's definitely a we're in a weird
place now.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Was it goal always to be a commentator or did
you want to jump into say I wanted to do
something at the White House.
Speaker 29 (39:53):
Or No, it was always to be a commentator. I
mean again, from the time I was seventeen. I had
a syndicated colum when I was seventeen years old, so
at the time I was the youngest syndicated commists in
the country. I would say most of the dumb crap
that I said was between the ages of like seventeen
and twenty five, like most people. And I do have
a running list on because so much of my you know,
kind of political career has been public from the time
I was a teenager. I actually have a running list
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on our website of all the dumb crap that I've
said over the course of my career, trying to either
explain or apologize for stupid things that I've said.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
You know, I ever people listed it, just blame it
on AI.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Why would you ever do that?
Speaker 29 (40:27):
I think it's the honest way to go, right, I mean,
better do that otherwise somebody uncovers it and uses it
against you.
Speaker 17 (40:32):
Is he better?
Speaker 29 (40:33):
You may as well?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But you know what, I always had a saying, live
your truth, so nobody uses your truth against you. And
I call it the eminem and eight out there, because
you know, at the end of day, my eminem said
everything you know about himself that's his opponent could say
about him, You're still gonna use it against your regardless.
Speaker 29 (40:48):
I mean, that's definitely true, but there and so there
are certain statement where I'm like, yeah, no, I meant
that when I when I wrote that in nineteen and
then there are statements where I really think it was
kind of dumb, and so I would like people to
know that I think that it was dumb, that I've
changed my mind on things, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Biggest one you think.
Speaker 29 (41:01):
Let's see, there was a there's a column that I
wrote about civilian casualties when I was nineteen years old
that was poorly articulated at best, talking about how the
US Army should basically not take consideration of civilian casualties
because I would rather, you know, protect American soldiers than
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worry too much about civilian casualties. It wasn't articulated in
that way. I think the general principle of that is
still you know true that when you're when you're looking
at American soldiers, obviously you have to value their lives
and you have to make sure that they can actually
engage in wars in ways that protect them because obviously
we're American and our interest in America is protecting America.
But it was very poorly articulated. So that'd be a
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big one.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
You feel that way about Israel Gaza war?
Speaker 29 (41:47):
Sure, okay, yes, I mean it Israe. Again, I know
a lot of people over in Israel obviously, and yeah,
I know a lot of soldiers who have grave wounded
going house to house in a conflict where clearly I
know Shaka right, well what was the giveaway exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
But but you believe that so you understand why people
are upset about what Israel is doing.
Speaker 29 (42:10):
I mean, I certainly understand that conflict is incredibly ugly,
and when you look at pictures, particularly drone pictures of
wrecked areas, then it's very I mean any conflicts mean, yes,
although I will say obviously that that I believe that
that Israel has been as meticulous as any army in
history in terms of its its tactics in urban warfare,
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and the numbers bear this out. And again, I know
people who have had their legs blown off going specifically
house to house when Israel had complete air superiority. If
Israel just didn't care about civilian casualties, they were leveled
the place October eight, and they did not. They've been
going house to house, they've been moving populations. Obviously, all
all this is ugly. There's no such thing as a
pretty war, particularly in an urban environment. And could things
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be done differently or should they be done differently in
case by case situations. I'm sure yes, I mean again,
war is very ugly. But this sort of large scale
accusations have been made that Israel doesn't care about civilians,
or that Israel has been attempting a genocide. That's just
factually untrue.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You don't think what's happening in God is a genocide, correct, Okay,
but the world's the leading association of genocide scholars has
declared that Israel is committing genocide and God that based
off the pure definition of.
Speaker 29 (43:16):
Well, it's not actually if you read their actual study,
it's not based on the qute unquote pure definition of genocide.
They don't actually even define genocide in the document, and
they basically went out to their membership, but they didn't
go out to the entire membership. They went out to
generic membership. It is very easy to join the International
Association of Genocide Scholars. In fact, there were several people
yesterday who just signed up and were immediately admitted, even
though they have no actual background in genocide. The question
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is not whether some sort of coterie of people who
call themselves experts in an issue are quote unquote experts
on the issue. The question is whether the definition is met.
The definition of genocide is not met in Gaza by
any stretch of the imagination. And you can cite to me,
you know a group that I hadn't heard of until
two seconds ago, and nobody had heard of it until
two seconds ago that voted in a particular way. That
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doesn't make a difference definitionally, So what does a genocide do?
A genocide is the attempt to forcibly destroy an entire population,
which is not what has happened.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
So it's not the attacks on the personal facilities needed
for like survival, like health care and educational institutions.
Speaker 29 (44:16):
Well, Israel has shipped in more humanitarian aid into the
Gaza Strip than literally any army to in a population
that supports the enemy in literally all of human history.
They'veen shipping in about forty four hundred calories per day
per person into the Gaza Strip in the middle of
a war in which the enemy is holding actual Israeli
hostages underground, who, as we've seen from some of the pictures,
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are actually starving. Again, none of this is to claim
that the war is pretty or meticulous or anodine, because
it isn't. It's really really, really ugly. But over the
course of this war, about three percent of the Gasmen
population has been killed or wounded. If you're going to
look at an actual genocide, obviously the prototypical case being
in the Holocaust, you're looking at fifty percent of the
entire Jewish population in Europe destroyed. If you're looking that
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other attempted genocides, say the the genocides in rwand, you're
hung an extraordinarily high percentages of the population that are
wiped out. You certainly are not seeing procedures that require
four layers of actual legal authority in order to do
a drone strike, and I've actually seen the tape of
them doing this in Israel. They actually, if they spot
from the air a terrorist who is going into a
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particular civilian area, you hash to take a full minute
where the pilot on the drone calls up the legal authority,
who then calls up the higher legal authority to get
clearance for the actual drone strike. And they will call
off the drone strike if they believe that the military
target is too costly in terms of civilian casualties. And
Kamas knows this, which is why they're hiding among civilians.
In fact, the best proof that this is not, in
fact a purposeful genocide is the fact that Kamas is
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hiding behind civilians. The reason you hide behind civilians is
because you know your enemy doesn't want to kill civilians.
If you believe your enemy doesn't care about killing civilians,
wouldn't hide among civilians. Wouldn't be a defense mechanism.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Do you think Israel needs a regime change?
Speaker 29 (45:55):
It's I mean, Israel's a democracy. They've had I think
five elections in the last four years, probably will be
election again in March. I do not think that Israel
would be conducting this war very differently if there were
somebody else in power. And I actually know every Israeli
Prime minister for the last ten years, including the ones
who are on the opposite side, people like, yeah, you're Lapeede,
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who's on the opposit side, or enough Tolly Bennet, who's
on the opposite side.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
But it's still kicking to a Ben Shapiro, the co
founder of the Daily Wire.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
And you believe in bandon.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Abortions, right, I'm pro life, yes, even in cases of incests.
Speaker 29 (46:25):
Rate yes. Why because this is a sort of a
fundamental definitional question. If you believe life begins at conception,
then regardless of the source of the life, it now
has an independent interest in life. So that is not
to minimize the tremendous evil of rape or incests. I
believe rape should be executed frankly or chemically castrated at best,
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But you know that's sort of a different question from
the independent source of life and whether whether this again,
it gets back to definitions, and this conversation tends to
be either you're on one side of that or the other.
If you don't believe life begins at conception, then obviously
you believe abortion is acceptable in a wide variety of circumstances.
If you believe it's an independent life deserving a protection,
then you believe it's an independent life deserving of protection or.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
What are you thinking about that? I'm just as one.
Speaker 19 (47:11):
I think that a woman should be able to choose
to do what she wants to do wherever she decides
to do it. I personally, I believe that women should
be able to abort babies if they want to, if
they feel like that's what they need to do.
Speaker 29 (47:20):
Did you have a time limit on that? Out of curiosity?
Speaker 19 (47:22):
I mean, I think it should happen earlier on if
it were you me making a decision for myself. But
I think it's up to the woman and what she's
personally experiencing and what she personally went through. I really
think it's a per person thing. That's why I think
it's crazy when you have like these structures and these
like people who are not in that situation making the
decision for the woman of what you can and can't do,
Because it's very like, per person, my situation might be
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different than another woman who's it next to me.
Speaker 29 (47:47):
Right, So again, this is sort of the definitional issue
that we're talking about because you're talking about what a
woman should be allowed to do, and what I'm talking
about is the definition of personhood of the separate person
inside the woman. I think that what I push on
is why do you personally believe that woman should have
an abortion earlier?
Speaker 19 (48:02):
I think, just from personal experience I've been in this situation,
I just think emotionally and mentally, it's less that you
think about, but it does depend on how you think
of when the life is formed or you know, should
be looked at as like a life that you right.
Speaker 29 (48:15):
So that's that's that I think is the big question,
and that's where the disconnect is.
Speaker 18 (48:18):
So so but that what I'm saying is that that's
always going to be different for each person.
Speaker 29 (48:22):
But I don't think that the subjective definition of life
is how we define life. Meaning that you being uncomfortable
with a woman having an abortion in the ninth month,
you're saying that just because you're uncomfortable with it, that
doesn't mean that you should stop a woman from doing that.
My point is that life has a definition, right. We
all agree, for example, that a one month old baby
should not be drowned. We all agree on that, and
that's not up to the personal shouldn't maybe and drowned
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about them?
Speaker 13 (48:45):
Right?
Speaker 29 (48:45):
And the question is, well, why because we now understand
that the one month old baby. Everyone agrees with this
right except for Peter Singer at Princeton, that a one
month old baby has an independent interest in life. Right,
that is a life, that is that is separate from
the woman and requires pretent Okay, so if it is
a life, then we now have an objective definition. Doesn't
matter what the state of mind of the woman is,
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doesn't matter if she thought, you know what, I have
a really tough life. My life will be better off
if this baby is dround, if I don't have to
deal with this baby, and so I'm gonna drown the baby.
The baby has an independent, actual interest in living. And
so the question becomes is that true before birth? And
I think for the vast majority of Americans are actually
somewhere where you are, practically meaning that the vast majority
of Americans do see, in sort of a soft way,
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a distinction between you know, the early stages of life,
you know, month two and nine month, right, Like, the
approval in America of abortion at the very late stages
is very, very low because most.
Speaker 18 (49:38):
Americans sparks around like four or five months for most people.
Speaker 29 (49:40):
Right, Well, I mean most abortions are performed in the
in the first time matter. Yes, yes, But the point
that I'm making is that the logic that you're using
allows for abortion like literally right before the baby is born.
So then the question becomes why is that? Okay, And
it's not a woman's choice at that point whether that
is a life or not, because you don't get to
artific or subjectively define the meaning of the things.
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Ye, that's fact.
Speaker 29 (50:04):
It's it's not semantic. Either it's a life or it's
not a life.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Right, Your daughter was raped, and it's almost like you're
saying she's rape and I'm gonna make her have this child. No,
I'm I mean you're saying you don't believe in abortion
even if rape and incests.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Right.
Speaker 29 (50:15):
What I'm saying there is that I don't believe in
abortion in case of rape and incest. The practical effect
is horrif horrible. Okay, I'm not going to pretend that
it is not emotionally horrifying that particular situation. The question
is whether it has an independent interest in life or not,
and whether there's a third party involved. If you don't
believe there's a third party deserving a protection, I totally
get it. I get it, but we should we should
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understand that that's the actual conversation. The actual conversation is
about whether you believe that this is an interested third
party being. Do you get to kill that interested third
party being this human life with potential or do you
not if you And so the actual argument that that
I don't like is the idea that that you can
that everybody it's up to every single person to define
when life begins and when life does not begin. That
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that actually is not true, right, there's either a standard
or there's not a Now you can say that that
life begins when the baby is independent of the mom.
I think it's a very dicey biological argument. And I
think most Americans agree with that that life only begins
when the baby exits the heartbeat. Yeah, okay, so I
think that's where most Americans are. And that's extremely early, right.
And so if that's extremely if the life begins with
the heartbeat, then you're now talking about, depending on your
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definition of a heartbeat, somewhere between six and ten weeks,
very very very early, and so if that is now
has an independent interest, you're talking about abortion restrictions very
early on, and so that's why you know a lot
of red states have heartbeat laws, for example. And so
again I think that the clarity is good, right, because
now we can have a conversation where do you think
life begins? And that's a better conversation than the sort
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of assumption by I think people who are not pro
life that it's just about controlling the woman's body. No,
it isn't, Okay, it really is not like for pro lifers.
It has literally nothing to do with the woman's boy.
It has to do with the independent interest of the
life inside the woman and how you define that.
Speaker 19 (51:57):
We want you to find it once you define it,
dependent on your definition, it does control what a woman
can and can't do with their body.
Speaker 29 (52:03):
Well, they're downstam effects definitions of course, right. I mean,
if I define life as it begins at a heartbeat,
then that is going to have public policy ramifications that
affect just as in anything else. If I define theft
in a particular way, that's going to have downstream effects
on people who commit that definition of the crime. And
if I broaden the definition, it's going to include more people.
And that's true for literally any legal term. It's true
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for any word that we use in life. As you
expand the definition, it affects more people in different ways.
But that doesn't change the necessity to have the conversation
about what the definition is. And I think it's an
easy way out to basically say, well, you know, I
have a definition of life. But and it gets into
very icy territory because historically people have defined to define
a way entire populations as not human. And so we
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can't do that, right, Like, you really don't want people
looking at other people and saying, well, by you know,
I don't think that this person I mean to take them.
The obvious and most controversial example for a huge percentage
of American history, there is a wide variety of people
in America who believe black people were not fully human
and therefore right correct and so like the and so
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was that a subjective question? That was not a subjective question.
Black people are fully human and just as human as
white people, equal the same, right like, and so if
somebody were to say, listen, I personally I am anti slavery.
I think that slavery is is personally wrong but it's
really up to every person to define for themselves whether
a black person is fully of human or not fully
of human.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Like, what the why don't think you can do?
Speaker 19 (53:31):
Why just because I think you know, if if I'm
making so if you're a slave master, right and you
say I believe slavery is right because black people aren't human,
Like that's a decision that you're making that is based
on things like you know, what the slaves can do
for you and your property, like the benefit of what
slavery will do for that slave masters So different than
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if a woman has to have a baby because she
was raped and how that will affect her life like that,
I think you have a decision that you can a
lot easier.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
It almost like you force a woman twice, right because
becomes a slave master.
Speaker 11 (54:07):
Jewish analogy?
Speaker 29 (54:08):
Sure so, I mean, I mean sure, so if there
was an entire population in Europe that was considered sub
human by the Nazis and they were exterminated, if you said,
I am personally against the extermination of the Jews, but
I understand why Germans could think the Jews are subhuman,
And so you know, it really is up to each
every individual to determine whether a Jew is human or
not fully human and can be put in the back
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of a van and gass. We'd be like, what are
what in the world.
Speaker 11 (54:33):
In saying, there'd be no pro choice.
Speaker 29 (54:35):
In God, Yes, the definitions are not a matter of choice.
Definitions are a matter of actual objective fact. Otherwise we
can't even have a conversation because if words have meanings,
then we all have to agree on that at least
that right. That much we have to agree on is
the meaning of the words. And when it comes to
you know, so the slave master analogy, The point that
I'm making here is not about the personal experience of
the slave master. In fact, I'm saying it's completely irrelevant.
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What I'm saying is that the reason that that slavery
was wrong is because black people are fully independent human
beings who require the protection of the war in the
same way as everyone else. And if you're a pro lifer,
you believe that's also true of the unborn.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
We're still kicking to rebenge Shapiro settlement.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I'm a pro choice person, but I do wonder how
come pro life people aren't anti war.
Speaker 29 (55:16):
Well, I mean, because anti I think everybody is anti war.
I think the question is is the definition of when
war is appropriate. I don't think like who's running around
going like war is awesome, Yes, more war, let's do it.
So fifty thousand kids have been killed in God because
of this current depends on the definitions and the list
that you're getting. Well, I mean, it also depends on
how you're defining kid because the way that Hamas defines
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kid is very different than how they define kid when
it comes to recruiting for Kamas. Right, they're fifteen year
olds with with aks on the battlefield. Unfortunately, it is
not fifty thousand of them. I mean, if they're talking
aboutf you're talking about very very small children, is much
much lower.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
My point is there are children that are being killed.
Speaker 29 (55:53):
Yes, who have died as collateral damage in the war.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yet THO shouldn't pro life, would be totally against it?
Speaker 29 (55:57):
Well, I mean I'm against the death there any and
it's human being. The question is when you're doing foreign policy,
how you prevent more deaths in the future. And the
point that I think Israel is making is this war
was legislation.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
And it is actually not a matter of morals and
values or no.
Speaker 29 (56:12):
Well, of course, of course the matter of morals and values,
but you can't be Let's put it this way. It's
incredibly reductive to simply say that if you are a
moral person, then you oppose a war, because what that
does it allows immoral people to then use that against
you to destroy your civilization. If your community is attacked
and bad people who don't have the same values as
you decide to kill you, kill your children, rape your
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wife and kill her, are you supposed to say, well,
I'm anti war, and so I'm going to sit here
and do nothing.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
So isn't that the same if somebody rapes a woman
and impregnates them. Shouldn't in that case that person be
allowed to make a choice.
Speaker 29 (56:44):
Well, no, The point is that the prevention. This is
why you should minimize civilian casualties. To get back to
the beginning of the conversation, this is why it's independently
moral to try as much as possible to minimize civilian casualties.
And when it comes to abortion, the idea is you
can minimize that casualty by just preventing it.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
Before you go out, we want to talk to you
about one thing you said in your book. You said
the founding fathers in America's constitutional order. You said that
they are the lions, right, who built systems of freedom
and opportunity. We talked about the two shows compromise then,
so everybody wasn't free when those things like the Constitution were.
Speaker 29 (57:18):
One hundred percent. And so to pretend that the systems
were not deeply flawed and that we didn't have to
fight a gigantic civil war that killed hundreds of thousands
of Americans eighty years afterward would be obviously historically inaccurate.
But the point is that the systems that they were
designing provide the framework for that freedom. Or this is
the argument that Frederick Douglass makes in his speech on
July fourth, Right, is that July fourth isn't for Black Americans,
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but it should be right. That should be it should
be for black Americans. That's why that speech is so
wonderful is because what he's saying is that the promises
the founding Fathers made were not fulfilled, which again is
the same thing that MLK says. Right, is that he's
not throwing out the systems. He's saying the system is good,
but it's flawed. Let's fix the system. That is a
lion thing right, so he can say the founding fathers wereliant.
And also the people who are fighting what the Founding
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fathers did with the three fifths compromise were also lions.
I mean, to be fair to some of the Founding fathers.
The reason for the three fifths compromise that some of
the Founding fathers were very much pro slavery, and many
of the Founding fathers, like for example, John Adams, were
very much anti slavery. And the reason for the three
fifths compromise is because if there were no three fifths
compromise in the Constitution, then actually the Southern slave holding
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states would have been overrepresented.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
Right.
Speaker 29 (58:22):
John Adams and others said, if the Southern states are
going to treat black people as not citizens, they shouldn't
be They shouldn't be citizens for purposes of abortionment or
you're going to get overrepresented in Congress. That's the historical
reason for the three fifths compromise. But again it is
again good evidence that yes, slavery was accepted at the time,
not just in America obviously everywhere was still legal in
the British Empire. The United States abolishes slavery in eighteen
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sixty three under the Emancipation Proclamation. But you know, there
are many countries that continue to hold slaves today, and
so I think the story of America, to pretend that
it's not flawed is wrong. Also, I think that, again,
as with any binary it's too simplistic. There are lions
who do scavenger like things. There's scavengers who do lying
like things. I think we're all a combination of both
those things. But you try to be as lying like
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as possible in our lives and in our politics, and
we'll stumble, and we'll fall, and we'll fail, and we'll
fall into envy, and we'll do terrible things to one another.
But the more that we can act like lions as
opposed to scavengers, the better we in the country will be.
Speaker 19 (59:17):
Had a question, Yeah, I had completely I mean maybe
not completely different topic. But Candice Owens, she was here
when she said that you couldn't fire her from a
daily wire.
Speaker 30 (59:26):
You know, there was a video circulating of him calling
me a disgrace when a faux professional or whatever it was.
I decided to choose peace, and then when I chose peace,
he responded to the peace with not peace. Well as
I explained on Tucker Carlson's show, like Ben doesn't have
the power to fire me.
Speaker 18 (59:44):
Like that was happening here in the breakfast club.
Speaker 19 (59:45):
So and I saw everything that happened after and you
guys said that you guys were going separate ways.
Speaker 18 (59:49):
She says she was finally free. Did she quit because
you told her to quit?
Speaker 29 (59:53):
I really get into this, I mean so like for
for legal reasons, I will say that that it's you know,
talking openly about this is kind of a problem.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
You know.
Speaker 29 (01:00:03):
I will say that the Candace and I have have
obviously quite significant political disagreements, and as the as the
founder of a company that you know, is dedicated to
certain propositions, we have many people who I would not hire,
and I would not hire. Candas owns today, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
What about free speech? And my boy Andrew Schultz, he
said that, you know you, he said, if if you're
not about free speech when you fired Canvas, then you
are just a propaganda machine for Israel. O.
Speaker 29 (01:00:29):
Well, with all respect Andrew Schultz, that's a dumb ass
thing to say. And the reason that's a dumb ass
thing to say is because I've noticed that Candas is
doing quite well for herself is right, and so I've
not called for her to be deplatformed. I've not called
for her to be prosecuted. I am not under no
obligation to pay people from my pocketbook who are espousing
beliefs that I find antithetical to my own. You don't
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have to hire you know, you don't have to hire
Nick Flin since her David Duke to come be a
host at the breakfast club. That is not a violation
of free speech.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
That's true.
Speaker 19 (01:00:56):
There's been the word anti semi has been thrown around
to silence a lot. Do you feel like she's anti Semitic?
Speaker 29 (01:01:03):
I will say that that some of the things that
she says would to me certainly fall in that category.
I try not to use that terminology. And the reason
I try not to use that terminology is I don't
think that it's useful. I think that the term has
been emptied of sort of all of its content in
the same way that that Americans are now used to
I think everyone being called racist, and so they stopped
actually paying attention to racism in many ways, which is
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I think quite bad. I want to avoid doing the
same thing here.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So what's the solution been when you talk about inequality
and civic conclusion, what's the solution? We've talked about a lot.
Are we just selling books that we just podcast?
Speaker 29 (01:01:35):
So I think that the solution on a personal level
is go to church, get married before you have babies,
get a job, find the ways in your life that
you can make your life personally better. Engage with your community,
find policies that you think are going to be best
for your community, and push for those things on the
local level predominantly. I think the other thing is that,
you know, I don't want it to sound self serving,
but I'm you know, I'm grateful to you for having
the conversation with people look on the other side of
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the aisle.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You know.
Speaker 29 (01:01:57):
I think that that is really important. I think it's
going away, and I think the only way for you know,
there for what I call in the book a Pride
of Lions, is for people who believe in personal responsibility
and duty and basic American ideals to get together and
hash all this stuff out because we do have more
in common than you know, we do with with people
who want to destroy the civilization. And I think that
that that really needs to be strengthened in a pretty
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significant way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
But you have to actually listen to what a person
is saying, and I get caught up in all the buzzwords.
One of my favorite episodes of Bill Maher in recent
times was when you was on There with My Guy
with Cary Sellis.
Speaker 29 (01:02:28):
Yes, I thought that was but Carry's awesome. Yeah, I
mean again, I think McCarry's great. And we totally disagree
on an enormous number of things, but it's a productive conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
All right, Well, pick up the book right now.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
It's outlined, The Scavengers, The True Story of America and
her Critics.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Ben Shapiro, that's right. Thank you for joining us this morning,
and thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 29 (01:02:47):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It is Ben Shapiro. It's the Breakfast List in the morning.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Well, let's get to the Latest with Lauren.
Speaker 11 (01:02:52):
Lauren become a restraint things.
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
She gets somebody that knows somebody.
Speaker 18 (01:02:59):
I'm no longer that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
She'd be having the latest on the Latest with Laurence
la Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little bit of Everything's.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
On the Breakfast Club talk.
Speaker 19 (01:03:15):
All right, So I'm gonna go back to the Young
Thug interview really quickly because I want to I do
want to talk about kind of how they ended the interview,
which was a moving forward conversation. So there's been a
lot of conversation on Young Thug and him not releasing
music and where is the music? And he actually got
into why we haven't heard music from him? Let's take her.
Listen to Young Thug getting emotional.
Speaker 26 (01:03:35):
You said, play why not thinking about because you don't
got my twin, bro, don't got my friends, Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Jeff who I be with every day?
Speaker 26 (01:03:45):
I don't got no no more brother, and I ain't
lose no to tragit on now I lost betray him? Bro,
you signing that one piece of paper signing your and
this is on this one piece of paper could get
me a life setting my like, what come on, bro,
I get a light snding all.
Speaker 20 (01:03:57):
This piece of paper you signed up? Brock are you
trying to get home fans? Are you just trying to
get to it or you're just doing a certain thing.
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Bro, And you already betrayed him with broh a piece
of paper, a piece of paper in all.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
This he men, Bro, he brought us ain't any world
making me go bro.
Speaker 19 (01:04:15):
And at this point in the interview, he's literally in
tears as he's like, you know, he says that was
the first time where it hit him that he was
actually hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
The hardest thing for men to admit, just people in general,
is that somebody hurt their feelings. And it's very hard
for men to admit that. And he admitted it in
that interview, and he said he wants the conversation. He
clearly just wants the conversation. He wants to hear from
Gonna why Gonna did what he did. Yeah, I guarantee
you if they had that conversation, even though he said
in the interview, hell no, he wouldn't forgive him.
Speaker 18 (01:04:44):
I bet you he would forgive him.
Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
And because I think when I listened to this conversation,
I feel like he's kind of already begin forgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
There's a point in the conversation where he's straight up
tells Bank, I hell know, Gun Big says, I know
you want to forgive.
Speaker 19 (01:04:57):
Gun and hell and he also he says he doesn't
want to talk to him, and then he says, I
want to hear what he has to say. So he's
going back and forth because obviously he still cares for him.
And my point is if you can get on some
platform and say you still care for this person, you've
already started thinking through why they did what they did,
and that's a part of moving toward forgiving somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
I think it's a different side. So I think it's
what he feels and what he thinks he's supposed to feel.
Right because the battle, because what Gunner said was when
he's supposed to Banks, he says, if he knew what
we have, no no, what gun Gunn was supposed to Banks.
He said that if he knew that, it would affect him,
because he asked would this effect Thug in any way?
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And they said no.
Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
But I think, my personal opinion, if Gunn knew it
would affect Thug like this, I don't think Gunnar would
have went that well. I don't think Gunna would have
did it because Gunnar Gunn. I don't think he did
it on purpose to hurt him. I think he was
just saying, look, this is what I'm saying. I'm not
pointing no fingers, I'm not saying nobody did anything. But
that's what Banks said, That's what twenty one said. They
all said that I don't feel like he did just
to hurt you.
Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
He was.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I think he was wrong, but I don't think his
intention was to hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I don't even know if he was wrong. I have
no idea, Okay, I just know that, you know, I
can understand what Thug is coming from.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
When he called the labeler gang and trying to say
it's not a gang.
Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
That's hurtful.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yes, all I'm saying is the harder thing for men
to say is, hey, man, you hurt my feelings, and
they can all have a conversation about it.
Speaker 11 (01:06:08):
Because Thug seemed very I can hate calling that man thug.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
The hardest thing for men to do is is to say, hey,
you hurt my feelings and he just felt a sense
of betrayal and they and they should just have the conversation.
But because he's very forgiving for everybody else, is he
seems to understand why everybody else did what they.
Speaker 18 (01:06:26):
Did, but even the people he think did wrong like that,
because he's saying thugs stutter up.
Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
But if the tables would turn and I'm in jail
and I'm locked up, and I'm trying to say that
my record label is not a gang, and my artist,
my second in command. Somebody I help says goes against
basically what I'm saying. It says it is I would
feel a way too well.
Speaker 19 (01:06:43):
In this conversation, you guys are talking about them possibly
moving on and sitting down and having a conversation. Big
Bank did a really good job of trying to direct
the conversation of where Thug needs to be. Now, so
let's listen to young Thug on in Bank on how
we move on?
Speaker 20 (01:06:57):
How do we stop giving about what goes on in
real street?
Speaker 22 (01:07:01):
Talk to you to some people were talking about this
to some people, Yeah, some people, but not where we're from.
Speaker 20 (01:07:06):
We uphold it ain't evenbody upholding. It's about manhood.
Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Bro.
Speaker 20 (01:07:10):
He meane of thus, like.
Speaker 26 (01:07:13):
A young girl is you're gonna look at it like man, God,
damn Biggs the whole nother place.
Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
No right is right?
Speaker 20 (01:07:19):
Wrong is wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
What you made?
Speaker 22 (01:07:21):
But y'all leading the game like you one of the
biggest in the game. Bro, you gotta kind of set
a president for the young that what we know? Bro,
this are you talking about come from trauma? You just said,
I say you was just a kid, didn't know nothing
until your brother got killed. Shut you up in front
of your fail like damn, then then murder came to
your mind. I don't care to talk about it because
we just move forward. I'm happy if I'm running around
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living my life, well, I think I'm happy. You don't
got everything you want with you ain't happen, brother, like
you passionate about this you're talking about brother, I'm out
the game, no.
Speaker 20 (01:07:49):
Scrape, no scars, but I ain't. I'm still banking, but
I'm something else.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
You know that that Elon Musk analogy that he used
didn't make any sense even though I understood it, because
the reality is, there is no honor amongst the streets.
Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
There is no morals in the streets with.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
The Elon must And what Elon Musk does is legitimate
as far as his business. So if he goes and
messes with a little girl, that's actually immoral. But what
he does and for full time isn't illegal. The streets
are all illegal, it's all out, it's all messed up.
So when a person you know, golden snitches or whatever,
there's no honor amongst.
Speaker 18 (01:08:24):
The streets, that's not how.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
I don't care just because you think it's right, noes
I mean, it is supposed to be a code when
you're in the streets, right, when you play the street games,
you play the street rules.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
That's the thing. You're not from the streets, so you
don't look at it, but you can't compare.
Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
But the way that they rock in the streets is
a certain way that a cold quote unquote that they
live by.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I don't live by that code. I am not a criminal.
I've never sold crack, I never wanted to.
Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
But if they are in those streets and they do
those things the street way, they they he looks at
a certain moral of a certain code, and if you
break that, they look at each other differently.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
You heard the scoring in the Frog story, right, Yeah,
this frog scorpion after frog for a ride across the
lake of the river or whatever the hell it was.
Frog said, okay, cool, just scuping out on the back
and then on they were halfway across the water to
scor a sun.
Speaker 11 (01:09:15):
Yes, and Frosty, why did you do that? Hell, you
expect from the streets people.
Speaker 18 (01:09:19):
See but this is right, this is cut it out.
Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
But you're looking for somebody that's not in the streets.
What I want to say is street people look at
street things differently. There's a moral, there is a cold.
There's certain leaks that they by. You won't understand what
out of this Bank said that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
We look at it and we listened to that interview,
and some of this stuff sounds ignorant. No, it sounds retarded. Okay, right,
that's how it sounds.
Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Sounds stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
Okay.
Speaker 19 (01:09:42):
Well, I'm glad that the aid and Ross stream that
Doug was going to do was canceled. I think that
he should take a break and just sit in what
is happening with the conversation he just had and.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
That would have been a pointless to the music, That
would have been a pointless conversation.
Speaker 11 (01:09:55):
Banks and Dog was great, had the perfect conversation.
Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Banks.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
There is no old body that could have done that
interview better than Banks.
Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
But you can't do that interview and say you want
to move on and things want to change. And then
you did the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
A couple of days after the interview, you put gonna
a rat, yaga rat?
Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
What are you rat?
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
That actually no better rat? Better rat? Because they said
that was that they dropped that was the same first Well, I.
Speaker 19 (01:10:17):
Mean, but I feel like his thought process after the interview,
the song had to be done. They were done around
the same.
Speaker 11 (01:10:23):
Time, so you gotta get they take this interview last week.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yea last week.
Speaker 18 (01:10:26):
But I thought you said they were supposed to drop
the song with the interview.
Speaker 11 (01:10:30):
I thought they did.
Speaker 18 (01:10:31):
They did, But Envy is.
Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Saying he did the song after they But basically I'm
saying he taped it last week and if he wanted
it over last week, he wouldn't put that song out.
It's probably it was probably the backlash and hear him
hearing himself what made him say, you know what I'm
done with this is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
That's on all the calls that's been released.
Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
And about do all that?
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I mean, I thought it was a phenomenal conversation. I
hope that this is the beginning of a healing journey
for Jeffrey.
Speaker 19 (01:10:55):
Yes, putting a button on it, I do as well.
Next hour, we are gonna have some conversations about, you know,
some men and some women who have been able to
move away from some things and now are being honored
because the twenty twenty five NBA Hall of Fame went
down over the weekend, and we are going to get
into all of that good stuff.
Speaker 18 (01:11:10):
Next hour.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
All right, Chearlamn, who are giving a downcy two?
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
You know I don't want a king shame. But there's
a man named elmont Ce Sarce. He needs to come
to the front of the congregation. He has a fetish
for feet, which and we can relate to because MV
once had a only fans paced just for his feet.
Speaker 18 (01:11:23):
They told me, tell you put it back live. I
told you that right there, was tweeting me have one.
Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
But good to continue on. We'll get to it next.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
You make sure you're telling them to watch out for Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
MIA's the craziest people in America come from the Bronx
and all of four.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yes, you are a donkey.
Speaker 24 (01:11:42):
The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.
Speaker 18 (01:11:46):
It gave him too much money.
Speaker 26 (01:11:47):
Florida man is arrested after w said he rigged the
door to his home in an attempt to electric hit
his pregnant lights.
Speaker 29 (01:11:52):
Police arrested in Orlando man.
Speaker 18 (01:11:54):
We're talking as from Mendo with the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Breakfast Club, bitch you donkey. Other day with Charlamagne to God,
I don't know why y'all keep it and he get.
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Y'all like this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It's not me, duvall, It's Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Okay, donkey Today for Monday, September eighth, goes to a
twenty eight year old man named el Moncey Cercy. Now
Elmnsy is from Florida, Ladies and gettlemen. And what does
your uncle Shalla always say about the great state of Florida?
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Say it with me.
Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and
all of Florida, and today is no exception. Now I
am a proud member of the Horror Hive. Drop on
the clues bombs for the whole hive. Okay, flew through decisions,
decisions man Dan Weezy. Make sure you pick up their
New York Times bestselling book No Holes Bar, available everywhere
you buy books now.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Because of them, I have learned over the years from them.
Speaker 29 (01:12:37):
Not the King Shank.
Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
We all have kinks, we all have things we enjoy
that turn us on sexually, so I strive, not the
King Shank. I mean every now and then you hear
stories like Diddy rubbing another man's creamy Coco Loso on
his nipples, and you judge, But then there are stories
like today el Moncey, Cercy and his lover feat see
el Moncey loves feet.
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
He loves feet so much.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Then on a first date, his very first date, he
asked his date to let him sniff her feet and
used sneakers. How would you feel about that, Laura and
the Rose. If a man after you on your first date,
can I sniff your feet? He'd be creep creep am
I king shaming for foot fetisters, though, even though some
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people have a foot fetter so bad that they think
the movie Happy Feet is a hardcore porintal Okay, men,
would foot fetishes really take the phrase I worshiped the
ground you walk on seriously because they will literally lick
the sidewalk. They will lick a floor if some bad
feet just walked across it. I know it sounds disgusting,
but it's true. And if you think I'm playing about
(01:13:42):
the extremes, people like el Monci will go through to
sniff some feet or more so, what will happen if
he has denied access too said feet? Then let's go
to Local ten news for the report.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Police strange, bizarre and certainly something didn't smell right here.
This guy asked to smell your feet. Yes, he did.
Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
What did he say?
Speaker 31 (01:14:05):
Well, initially we had met up because I was going
to sell him my sneakers.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
She knew something didn't smell right when she met this
guy almanse Circil at an Aventur hotel.
Speaker 31 (01:14:18):
When I got there, he just wanted to sniff my feet,
and I didn't feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
So I have to stop you there. What do you
say when someone says I want to sniff your feet?
Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
No?
Speaker 31 (01:14:28):
No, I mean you could have my sneakers all you want.
I mean, I don't care. I'm not wearing them, and
you know they're just stinky old sneakers, but people like.
Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Weird thing, she says. The suspect runs out of the room.
Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
She thinks with her sneakers.
Speaker 18 (01:14:42):
I ran after him and I met him down in
the parking garage.
Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Cat she says, he ran her over with his car.
Speaker 31 (01:14:48):
He ran you over, he ran me over, and by
the grace of God, I'm still standing today.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
This man ran over a woman with his SUV on
their first state after she refused to let him sniff
her feet and use sneakers. As soon as he met
the victim, he immediately asked to smell her feet and
purchase her used sneakers. Now, the victim said, when she
got there, he just wanted to sniff feet, okay, and
she didn't feel comfortable with that. You think all right?
(01:15:18):
Then she told him I will sell you my used
shoes for one thousand dollars. Now this wasn't in the
news report. But mind you, she is a foot model, okay,
her an MV has something in common view or a
foot model.
Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
At one point, you had only fans with your feet,
Yes you did. I didn't run that or control.
Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
It or put that up.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Sure, slot suthe binns. So that high price system granted.
So that high price is her going rate. Okay, So
she charges one thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (01:15:42):
For that, So she's not really he's not really wrong
for wanting.
Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
To sniff her feet or see her feet, because she
clearly leads feet first. But what I don't understand is
if you can't afford to pay, or she doesn't want
to give you a free sniff, why you gotta get
in your suv and run her over?
Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Am I missing something? I really would like to know?
Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
What is it about toes that would make a man
act like this, And how do you feel about feet
that don't work? For example, a woman in a wheelchair
paraplegic toes don't work, but they look amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Some donkey in the days just sell themselves. I don't
know why I thought that, Please get a machi sirc
the biggest he huh?
Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I don't know what I was thinking about that this
morning when I was thinking about this story, I'm like.
Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
Why do they feel about feet that don't work?
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Well?
Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
They probably like I mean, they don't get.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
They gotta get sweat, right, do they get sweat?
Speaker 18 (01:16:42):
I don't know they get sweating?
Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Like, what about the still get hot? The toes that
make somebody act like this?
Speaker 18 (01:16:50):
Sneakis This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
I don't know why am I thinking about this on
a Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
And why would he run her over just because he
couldn't get a sniff for of the feed?
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
That is true, that is true, but runner over?
Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
He was white?
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
No, let's play game, then, all right? Play game?
Speaker 11 (01:17:08):
Well, her eliminated one of the categories. I don't want
to please that want to play?
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
That would have played please shut up? Latino, no Asian,
no black? Okay, let's play.
Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
A game up.
Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Yes, what racy?
Speaker 13 (01:17:28):
Gosh?
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Won't you'll grow up?
Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
El Monsey, twenty eight years old from Florida ran over
a woman because the woman wouldn't let el Monty sniff
her feet.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Guess what racy is?
Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I was thinking white? I was going white, but you
said no. I said no to everything for the most part.
Speaker 18 (01:17:50):
Oh, I think I know.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Yes, I'm not saying black.
Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
No, what.
Speaker 18 (01:17:54):
He's brown? Is he he's on black? He's brown?
Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
You say an Indian? Yeah, we don't have a hell
was that?
Speaker 25 (01:18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
The we don't have a sound effect for that one is?
I told y'all I didn't want to play this game.
Y'all just want to know what he is?
Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yes, whatever this is? Okay? He's black?
Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Why did you say no? People say no? Y'all never
said black?
Speaker 18 (01:18:17):
I said black?
Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
You did?
Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Did you said brown?
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Said no?
Speaker 18 (01:18:21):
I said black before we started the Guess But it's okay.
Don't worry about it. I'm used to it. You don't
even hear me.
Speaker 29 (01:18:25):
All right, Thank you for that dog?
Speaker 12 (01:18:32):
What?
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
All right?
Speaker 18 (01:18:35):
Get your friend?
Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Thank you for that donky of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Now, let's open up the phone lines eight hundred five
eight five one O five one. I know y'all might
be young, thugged out, but I want to just open
up the phone lines, have a conversation right when someone
is in the streets meaning y'all are doing criminal activities,
y'all doing criminal activities together?
Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
You know you're doing criminal activities?
Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Should there be a code of the streaks when you're
doing criminal activity?
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I don't want to talk to none of y'all eight
hundred five five. Tell me y'all in the street. I'm
calling your industry.
Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Should you follow street rules? Meaning you don't you get caught?
Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Y'all are doing criminal activity, and y'all know y'all doing
criminal activity.
Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
You get caught, your man dope? Should you be There's
got to be something that was like one of the
biggest things.
Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Why can't we have the conversation about, you know, how
men don't know how to communicate when their feelings are hurt.
Speaker 11 (01:19:27):
How come we can't have the conversation about how?
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
When? When? When?
Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
When the hardest thing for a man to do is
just say, hey, you hurt my feeling.
Speaker 19 (01:19:34):
I think two things can be true, because I feel
none about no, no, no, not that you care, but
I'm just saying I feel like the battle that NB
is referring to, where it's like, do I still live
by this code? And what you're referring to is men
feel like they can't open up and just release what
they've been through.
Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Said it in the interview with numerous times until he
just started having this conversation. He said, people have told
him straight up, you just your feelings are just hurt.
Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
The feelings were hurt because he lived by a code
and this man did not live by the same code.
Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
But that cold sucks because there's no honor amongst these
no honor amongst criminals.
Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
It does, but it's easy for you, it's easy for me.
It's easy for Lauren to say.
Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
But if somebody's running an activity that might not be legal,
there's certain codes that they live.
Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
How was there a cold?
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Is something when there's only three ways that people end
up in those situations jail dead are labeled a rat
and that.
Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
And a lot of these and a lot of these
people live by that cold because that's the way that
they are.
Speaker 11 (01:20:30):
It's not the The industry stinks. Y'all need a union.
Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
I mean, the whole thing is need a union selling
drug stink you know what I mean, doing a lot
of stuff that people do that people idolized, stink.
Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
But let's discuss if you're just joining us.
Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
This conversation comes out of Young Thug's interview with Big
Banks and everything that's going out with going on with
a young Thug, and the question is eight hundred and
five eighty five one oh five to one, uh, if
your industry should you follow a street code.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Let's listen to just some of the things that Thug
was saying during that interview.
Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
So you've been here, yeah, and.
Speaker 26 (01:21:01):
That's what That's another thing I don't even want to do.
That's why I don't even respect the phone calls coming out,
because all they do is make me think about when
I was in jail going through fight, my fight for
my life. All they do is make my girl think
about the old long gas conversations on the phone.
Speaker 20 (01:21:13):
On the phone, we're praying and we're doing.
Speaker 26 (01:21:15):
And hoping that I can get away from it and
come out of this just like a fun, fun moment
of means on the internet and trying to just like
tounge my my existence but not knowing like but it
traumatizing the here. They damn make me remember when I
was in jail. They make me remember those dark ass
days and moments I had bro it make my girl cry.
She ain't even tripping about what we're saying on the phone.
We said whatever I say, I say twice. I'm a
grown man, so I ain't tripping on that part. I'm
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tripping on just like the world not knowing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
Eight hundred five, eight five, one oh five. When I'll
ask you, Lauren, what are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 20 (01:21:44):
What was the question again?
Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Okay, never mind, I just don't want to.
Speaker 19 (01:21:48):
I just I really feel like Doug should be at
the point where this is not his conversation. He is
super rich, super famous, and what age do you tap
out of all that? Even if that's how you were brought.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Up, that's a different conversation, right, because out the streets.
You should be out the streets, right. But I do
feel like there has to be some type of moral
and I know it's moral and cold, which is you're
saying the thieves, so it shouldn't be they're doing things
against you want.
Speaker 11 (01:22:10):
Them to have a moral code for immoral actions.
Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
There was always a moral code when people did street things.
Shot it back at the mobsters. The mobsters had a
street colde.
Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
There were certain laws and things that the illegal life
studied that.
Speaker 18 (01:22:24):
Kids and women should be off limits because that's that's
a street code too.
Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Yes, yes, but nobody your binds by that. Like, yeah,
there is no real cold The colde is lip service.
It's something people say that sounds good, but they don't
actually live by None of them do.
Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
But the point is, it never have.
Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
But the point is, and by the way, if there's
such a code, where's the reward for those that keep
it real? Well, the reward for those who don't snitch,
who don't tell, who do everything right?
Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
I don't see no reward for them.
Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
Ain't.
Speaker 11 (01:22:53):
No, they don't build no statues and no streeting.
Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
No, no, it's never but you don't because it's a
legal activity.
Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
But there was a well, there was more of a
moral and more of a cold right.
Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
When I was growing up in New York, there was
a moral and cold gangsters messed with gangsters. They fought
other people. If there was a problem in the club,
they would tell people, Hey, I need you'all to get
out of there. They would not mess with with kids
and wives and mothers. There was a certain code that
people stood by. You did not snitch because you did
the illegal activity, and if you did, you look down upon.
What's happened in Atlanta is crazy because all those individuals
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society to do illegal activity.
Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I'm of the biggest rats in the world have come
from New York. Okay, And once again, once again, when
I say, I'll say this one more time, there's rats everywhere.
There is no moral cold for immoral activity. Okay, Like
it's just not like like we can we can we
can lie to each other and act like it is.
But that's a contradiction.
Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
It is a moral cold for illegal activity.
Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
But there was always a thing like if me and
you do something against the law and I get caught,
if I pointed at you and you had and you
weren't getting caught, they didn't even know who you were,
it would look down.
Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
That's what it was. I'm with you and you all
that stuff sounds good, guys, but that has not been
the case. You end up in jail, Dad, are labeled
to rap And I don't even know why we're having
this conversation. I'm forty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I don't care, y'all.
Speaker 18 (01:24:14):
Y'all heard what Duck said when Big Bank said he
was forty seven, he was like.
Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Dad, for I'm saying. I was like, hello, who's this?
Speaker 25 (01:24:22):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (01:24:22):
This is kind of called some North New Jersey and co.
Speaker 13 (01:24:27):
New Jerseys.
Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
What's up, mama?
Speaker 21 (01:24:31):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 15 (01:24:31):
It's so good to be on the Breakfast Club. I
love you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
What's your thoughts?
Speaker 13 (01:24:34):
Listen?
Speaker 15 (01:24:35):
I feel like, what's the point of becoming a millionaire
to live by street code? Like they become rappers and
artists to get away from that life, and then they
want to still live and die by the same cod
It doesn't make sense. We're watching people because we like
them as entertainers, as and as artists. We don't care
by no street code.
Speaker 13 (01:24:53):
We civilians.
Speaker 15 (01:24:54):
We just want to see them rap, make good music,
class and that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
But the sad thing is a lot of times we
idolize these people because who they think.
Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
We think they are.
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
You look at these kids, idolize some of these rappers
because these rappers appeared to be gangster. They are pay
to be street, they're pair to be hood, and these
kids idolize that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
You see it all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
With drill music, shy time music, all like these kids
idolize a lot of these people, which is a sad thing.
Speaker 15 (01:25:20):
But I agree, I agree, but it's like after a
certain point, you got to leave that.
Speaker 13 (01:25:24):
Life behind you.
Speaker 29 (01:25:25):
You're right, you know he's not a new rapper.
Speaker 15 (01:25:27):
He didn't just drop like that's been out. He been
rich behind you.
Speaker 7 (01:25:32):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Hello, who's this.
Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
What I'm taking us off of Bluetooth? Please a speaker?
Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I got you?
Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
How old are you?
Speaker 13 (01:25:42):
Chris?
Speaker 21 (01:25:44):
Thirty four?
Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Thirty four? Okay? Talk to us about street court. What's
your thoughts?
Speaker 17 (01:25:48):
You you got? You got? If y'all both feel something illegal,
then should say the rule. Like you know, we go down,
we go down together. If not, you shouldn't be doing
nothing at all.
Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:26:02):
Hey, I the screech is some bs. Y'all need to
go learn the trade.
Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Okay, go learn how to do some age vac okay,
some some some electrician being electrician a welder.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
And I hate to see when when people are hustling
at all, and especially when they're hustling in their older age,
because like you said, there's only a couple of ways
to get out of it.
Speaker 11 (01:26:25):
Jail, dad, are you end up labeled a rat?
Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
In my forty seven years of existence, I haven't seen
no other no other options. And when when people do
hold it down, especially in black community, black community don't
get no rewards for keeping it real? Okay, nothing whatsoever.
Y'all need to get a party when y'all come home.
Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Most of the time. Hello, who's this Timmy still Water?
Many Timmy still Water? Talk to us? What's going on?
Speaker 25 (01:26:51):
Bro?
Speaker 13 (01:26:52):
Man, I'm listening to your station every morning.
Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Man, Thank you, sir. We appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
Man.
Speaker 13 (01:26:58):
So you know when you got to the street, bro,
like literally you know, already being to prison.
Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
It's stuff.
Speaker 13 (01:27:05):
And I did tell for guys, and I kept my
mouth shut literally and I'm out. I'm being free for years.
But still it's always Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:27:14):
What was the reward for you keeping it real? And
and and you know, keeping your mouth.
Speaker 17 (01:27:17):
Shut, keeping it real. I'm still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Oh okay, there's no you don't get no pension. There's
no pension for keeping it real? Like nothing, no, nothing, no, man, it.
Speaker 17 (01:27:27):
Is it depends make us. Like I say, man, I mean,
it's like mafia.
Speaker 13 (01:27:32):
You know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
You know, if you're doing things out here and people
know your family and stuff like that, and you're doing
crazy stuff, bro like that stuff could could have venture
off into you.
Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Know, off of your family.
Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Those mafia guys take care of theirs though. Like when
a person when a person you know, keeps their mouth
closed and goes and does their time, they know that
they mama straight.
Speaker 11 (01:27:52):
They know that they family straight.
Speaker 17 (01:27:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Now you're absolutely if you're just joining us, we open
up the phone lines eight hundred and five eight one.
Now this conversation comes from the young thug situation, and
he recently did an interview with Banks. Amazing interview, by
the way, And we're asking eight hundred and five eighty five,
one oh five one. We're talking street code. If you
are doing illegal activity, is there a code? Is there
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a code in the streets?
Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
We do.
Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
We do know where the term there is no honor
amongst thieves. We know where that proverb comes from. Right,
is when people are engaged and dishonest in moral activities
like drug dealing, like stealing.
Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Murder, whatever. It is point you to say, they don't
ask that, right.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
They're already they're already untrustworthy, and you will betray each
other due to your own self interest, greed, or desire
for power. So I don't understand why you have a
moral code for moral activities.
Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
We have call on the line calling good morning, Good
morning everybody, Good morning caller, talk to us. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 21 (01:28:50):
Listen about street code. Ain't no street code with stupid people.
My daddy way not to get caught is to do
it by yourself, because it's always gonna be one or
two stupid people talking about something they did, and everybody
gonna get caught. So you got to think about who
you're doing it with first of all, because I'm not
taking a blame for nobody, nobody.
Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
You're right, thank you, mama. Hello, who's this? It's dumb
don what's up to talk to us?
Speaker 17 (01:29:17):
So my thing is right, How do you expect somebody
that lives their life breaking along to follow some rooms?
Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Now that it's that simple, it don't make no sense.
All right, they're a criminal, that's it right, that's but
it don't make sense to you. It don't make sense
to me. It don't make sense to you.
Speaker 11 (01:29:37):
It don't make sense period.
Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
And not committing crimes, but for people that commit crimes
that do a legal activity. They have a different way
of looking at they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
They think they do.
Speaker 11 (01:29:46):
But the reality is when you look at all the
different examples we have, it is what it is like.
Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
There is no honor amongst these.
Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
There cannot be a moral cold for emral activity.
Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Crystal, Good morning, Good morning. Talk to us, Crystal, what's
your thoughts.
Speaker 15 (01:29:59):
I think that as a black woman, black men need
a new code. I love what Charlemagne is saying as
black men.
Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
I love how we are.
Speaker 15 (01:30:07):
Having these conversations because we need to start healing our communities.
And in order to hear our communities, we need to
heal our families. In order to put together our families,
we need to heal the black man. And we have
the streets in our DNA, you know, So now we're
starting to evolve. I feel like as a race, consciously,
that's why we have so much mental stress, because I
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feel like melanated people hold the key to humanity in
our soul. So I love it. Let's keep talking. Let's
keep talking real because a lot of people have bad advice.
So when you have these podcasts, let's keep it one
hundred and let's keep having these conversations. So that's how
I feel. And just to say, I'm a screenwriter. I
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wrote my own TV series about the mental health of
black people. Charlatm Magne. I've been wanting to talk to
you so long about it. But yeah, so that's my answer.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
You should come up.
Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I should come to new on October eleventh from my
fifth Manuel Mental WEALTHEX Ball from eleven am to four pm.
Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
It's a free event, you know, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Want everybody to get these get these services and these
resources for free, and this information for free. So it's
gonna be October eleventh, from eleven am to four pm
at the New Jersey Institute of Technology, the Joel and
Diane Bloom Wellness and even Center in Newark, New Jersey.
Speaker 15 (01:31:22):
Oh, I'm definitely gonna come. I'm gonna get a babysit
there and come because I feel like it's very important
for us.
Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Yeah, it's a free event, man, everybody is welcome from
eleven am to four pm. And that's the biggest takeaway
from Banks and Thugs interview that I want people to get.
Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Banks is the only person who could have had that convo.
Speaker 11 (01:31:39):
Banks. God preordained you for a time like this.
Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
He's the only person that could have had that convo
because number one, he's from Atlanta, he speaks the language,
he's from the screets.
Speaker 11 (01:31:47):
But he's done the work on himself.
Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
He's done the work on himself.
Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
That's why there was a level of empathy as well
as accountability in that interview that he was having with
thug Man. When he told thugs like, you didn't humble
your man. I know you were in there praying, but
you didn't come home humble. You ain't learned nothing while.
Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
You was in there. He was like, you know, what,
what does healing look like for you?
Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
I'm listening to you and you hurt man. That was
a very powerful conversation man for that reason. So that's
the biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
I want folks to realize from that that Banks and
thug and if you healing as possible, and I hope
that thug, you know, really gets on his healing journey
and let some of that hurt go.
Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
That's right, all right, Well, we got the latest Lauren
coming up. What we're talking about we do.
Speaker 18 (01:32:28):
We're going to get into the VMAs summer.
Speaker 19 (01:32:31):
Walker got a new bay, the NBA Hall of Fame
twenty five Hall of Fame ceremony as well.
Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
We'll talk about all right, we'll get to that Nextus
to Breakfast slug of Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Everybody is dj NV just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Let's get to the latest with Lawrence.
Speaker 20 (01:32:50):
Lauren, You're coming a straight fast man.
Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
She gets some from somebody that knows, somebody get detail.
Speaker 18 (01:32:57):
I'm the long girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
She'd be having the latest on you, the last, the
latest with Laura la Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Sometimes you have sack, sometimes you have details, sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
You have a little bit every time, the latest on
the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 19 (01:33:12):
The twenty twenty five NBA Hall of Fame ceremony went
down over the weekend, and you know, this is being
called one of the most decorated classes in the basketball
Hall of Fame history. So they honored or inducted Carmelo Anthony,
Dwight Howard, Sue Byrd, Maya Moore, Sylvia Fowls, Billy Donakan,
who is the Chicago former Chicago Bills coach, Danny Crawford,
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former NBA ref Mickey Earrison, who is a Miami Heat
managing general partner. And then they also honored the two
thousand and eight US Olympic basketball team. So there were
a bunch of speeches that went down. Of course, now
one of the speeches, well, let's start up with Dwight Howard.
Shaq was also on the stage when Dwight Howard gave
his speech. Show it was good to see them two together.
Let's take a listen to Dwight Howard, Stan Van Gundy.
Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
I don't know if you're here. Is it there you go?
Speaker 12 (01:34:02):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (01:34:02):
Man?
Speaker 20 (01:34:04):
I know I gotta do it later, but.
Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Hey, Stan, I just want to say because of you,
I am in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
And as I said before, there is no Dawhite Howard
without standing there in Gundy.
Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
You taught me what it means to stay ready. I
still remember in the playoffs you had us doing place
for guys that never even got in the game. And
I remember you saying, listen, you never know, you never know,
I mean listen, but you was right. Stand in basketball
and in life, you gotta stay ready. Y'all look crazy?
(01:34:41):
All right, that's the last one staying up.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
There's something about NBA Hall of Fame ceremonies that are
just better than every other sports league. Like I love
watching the NBA Hall of Fame speeches.
Speaker 19 (01:34:53):
Is it because well, never mind, I'm gonna say I
was gonna say, because I feel like the NBA players
are like bigger celebrities.
Speaker 18 (01:35:00):
Their journeys are bigger at Goldmore.
Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Ye, absolutely, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Like maybe it's still emotional investment we have in the
NBA because, like you said, like you know, you usually
see these guys in high school and we seem in
college and we see him in the NBA and you're
talking about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years of just watching different
people try to overcome, you know, different struggles in the league.
Speaker 21 (01:35:20):
There.
Speaker 19 (01:35:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well, when you're talking about overcoming struggles, Carmelo
Anthony gave a very emotional, credible, very incredible speech. I
take a listen to Carmelo Anthony, to every.
Speaker 25 (01:35:29):
Father, you are more than your mistakes. You are more
than what this world has to reduce you to. Being present,
being real, being vulnerable.
Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
That's strength.
Speaker 25 (01:35:39):
Raising children in this world is revolutionary. I didn't just
want to be a basketball player. I wanted to be
a model of redemption, of accountability, of love.
Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
My kids saved me.
Speaker 25 (01:35:51):
They gave me a reason to move past ego, past noise,
past criticism.
Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
They reminded me.
Speaker 25 (01:35:56):
That legacy isn't what you leave behind, that's what you
lift up to Mama. Love to my mother, Mary Anthony,
you taught me that love is action, that sacrifice is quiet,
that faith that is louder than fear. My mother was
the first one that showed me what sacrifice looks like.
No spotlight, no praise, just love and its purest form.
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You're the reason I'm standing here, man, The sacrifice that
you made, the tears you held back, the shrift you show.
I felt it every time I laced out my sneakers.
Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
You all my hero.
Speaker 18 (01:36:29):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Carmelo anthony speech was incredible, driving the clues Boss from
Carmelo Anthony. But the thing I liked about Carmelo's speech
especially he talked about everyone along his way who shaped
him as a person, who shaped him as a player.
He even spoke on his you know father who passed
away when he was to everybody who helped him along
his journey, who inspired him.
Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
I was waiting for him to speak on lou loud,
though he.
Speaker 19 (01:36:53):
Didn't say her name specifically, but he did say to
he mentioned the mother women women in his life and
mother mother.
Speaker 11 (01:36:59):
Of his kids and comids.
Speaker 19 (01:37:01):
Well, he said to the mothers of the kids, like
basically the women who have to come in and like
help raise the kids while you're doing your thing.
Speaker 18 (01:37:07):
Is what I got from it. But he did not
say her name specifically, and she was not there.
Speaker 17 (01:37:11):
Why.
Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
I know she's filming her group chat show.
Speaker 19 (01:37:14):
Yeah, I will say, and maybe this is me and
a pop this is me in a pop culture since
I thought she would be there, even though I know
that you know they've gone through there like divorce or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
But she always supported him.
Speaker 12 (01:37:25):
She was career.
Speaker 19 (01:37:28):
I tuned into him via her, and you know she
was always on the sidelines and bringing Kanye into the
games and all that.
Speaker 11 (01:37:34):
So I thought I was That's why I had to
watch the speech twice and I thought I was like
with them.
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Maybe I missed it because I just expected him to.
Speaker 18 (01:37:40):
I'll get the exact words for you.
Speaker 29 (01:37:41):
But he did mention it, but vain.
Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Yeah, and he spoke about you know, the Knicks as well,
which was surprising because the Knicks did him dirty. Yeah,
but he did talk about the Knicks and him playing
for I think they did his last couple of years,
though they did Mellow dirty, didn't put Mellow where he
should be in my opinion, I mean, I'm realm what. Yeah,
they did have bad teas, but everything was on Mellow.
(01:38:05):
The reason they lost. They blamed it on Melo. Everything
was blamed on Mellow when he was in New York.
You mean okay, so they surround him with the right players, correct,
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 18 (01:38:13):
Well that real quick.
Speaker 19 (01:38:14):
I wanted to get to the VMA's so that was
amazing as well. But also here here in New York
yesterday the VMA's went down and there was some legends honored.
Mariah Carey received the Michael Jackson Vanguard Award Buster Rhymes
and that was her first.
Speaker 18 (01:38:29):
VMA, which I thought was crazy. Ryan Carrey, yes, she
received a VMA.
Speaker 19 (01:38:35):
Bust of Rhymes, received the first ever Rock the Bells
Visionary Award, and he said it took them thirty five
years for him to get a trophy, which I also
thought was crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
As well as Transcty for his videos and what he's
done videos revolutionized videos.
Speaker 19 (01:38:47):
Absolutely, yes, but I just wanted to show them some love.
I don't know, if we have time to plan any speeches,
let's take a listen to Buster rhymes.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Oh thank you for being my hero, one of my
greatest inspirations, the reason I vote my first round. That
love cool j y'ah know. I usually do these long speeches.
I'm not gonna do one today, but next time, y'all
take thirty five years to give me one of these.
They're gonna let me talk as long as I want,
but let me get straight to it. Seeer, I love you, Yo, Gotti,
salute Mona Scott Young. Thank you for being the mother
(01:39:15):
in my career. I want to thank my mother. I
want to thank my father, rested peace, Dad, whole places
due to the most hot God is the greatest.
Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
I want to thank my beautiful children.
Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
I want to thank DJ Scratch and I think we
all need to acknowledge the incredible woman that loved us
very much when we came to MTV. She loved the culture.
She lifted us up, the late great Annanda Lewis. I
want to big up her mother, her father, her sister
lux Me. I want to big up marm At Brito.
Thank y'all so much.
Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Man want to cluse bombs for Buster to buster any
did they do anything for Nando at all?
Speaker 18 (01:39:49):
Not, No, they did not. That was what we got.
Speaker 19 (01:39:51):
That was in tribute to her, And there were a
lot of people that were upset. They felt like there
should have been more of a tribute to Ananda during
the ceremony. So it was, you know, great that bust
the rhymes took the time for her because we didn't
see it anywhere else. Now as we wrap up, I
just want to mention some people that hit the carpet.
We saw Glorilla Gunna also hit the carpet. You also
debut the under Armour commercial and he had a whole
commercial during the VMA's. But Summer Walker hit the carpet
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with a new boo. It's this older white gentleman. She
was feeding him on the carpet.
Speaker 18 (01:40:18):
There was like a They even.
Speaker 16 (01:40:19):
Kissed each other, yes, And I thought, I'm like, oh,
y'all while and now that y'all think doctor Umar down man,
y'all would have never done that. No, because the school
going through the trouble, you could just do that because
having a little down fly right now say, I am
totally against it. She got a song called f my type,
So I thought this was just like you know a
(01:40:39):
little promo for the song. Yeah, so I hit you
know a little source close and I'm like, is this
a joke or is this real? And they're like, no,
she's really this is her date. She's really dating him.
She's having fun exploring new options. They met to a
mutual friend a few weeks ago. But she's going for
Sugar Daddy from here on out. She's done with her type.
Speaker 18 (01:40:56):
That is what I was told.
Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
She's happy.
Speaker 7 (01:40:57):
She's happy.
Speaker 11 (01:40:59):
God bless and who we are getting away of her
getting worms?
Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
All right, Well that is the latest with Lauren. Maybe
maybe should end up in the wheel.
Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Okay, all right, all right, people's choice mixes up. Next,
it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Good morning, you're checking out the Breakfast Club. Everybody is
j envy.
Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Just so Larry and Charlamagney, God, we are the Breakfast Club.
Salute to Lorenz tape Man. Lorenz Tate turns fifty today,
So happy birthday to.
Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
The bro Lorenz tape Man. You like three years away,
That's what I'm saying. But Lorenz look amazing for fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Brothers man, I will take care of myself and Slim Thugs,
Sloop the s Doug a thugg Doug.
Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Doug gotta be maybe that's a good question. Probably forty seven,
forty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Let's see, let's let's check right fast. Slim Doug is
forty five. Okay, some Doug is forty five, So slout
the slim thug out of y'all.
Speaker 19 (01:41:51):
Y'all getting up there, y'all, Well, moisture, you'd be sleeping
even after your gigs. Envy Charlemagne. You ain't growing no more,
but you still have big tall man energy. I'm really
prout of you.
Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Yeah, I mean your hair has you know, like your
hair's not growing anymore, but it has the energy like.
Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
It's still flourished hair girls all the time. That's why
only this cat shakes.
Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Just a flat of mind, right.
Speaker 13 (01:42:18):
Right, a flat of.
Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Minds Lutor Ben Shapiro for joining us. He's the co
founder of the Daily Wire. He stopped through earlier this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Yes, he has a new book out called Lions and Scavengers,
The True Story of America. So it's an interesting read.
Whether you agree or disagree with Ben Shapiro's opinions, it
is an interesting read.
Speaker 7 (01:42:36):
That's right.
Speaker 19 (01:42:37):
Delaware State University. I will be there tomorrow, Tuesday, September tenth.
I'll be on campus because I am the keynote speaker
at the convocation ceremony, which is so fire like.
Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
That is the Ceremonyla, thank you.
Speaker 19 (01:42:49):
That's a ceremony that welcomes the entire student body to
a successful year, and it sets the tone and motivates
the students to you know, doing the things they need
to do to get through their years. So I am
so honored to have been asked to come. You graduated, Yes,
I graduated.
Speaker 18 (01:43:03):
Don't play with me. I was there on a full
academic scholarship for most of my time. Yes, so don't
play with me.
Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (01:43:08):
So I'll be on campus. I'll also be broadcasting tomorrow.
I'll be doing the show from Delaware State University.
Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Yep.
Speaker 19 (01:43:14):
So I'll see you guys at the commocation ceremony. And yeah,
congratulations to the new class coming in making their marks
on the world.
Speaker 18 (01:43:21):
The best HBC in the world. Envy Charlamane. You ain't
graduate from North.
Speaker 11 (01:43:25):
To South Carolina State University.
Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
You know what I'm saying. It don't matter.
Speaker 11 (01:43:28):
My mother, Lama mad that's Southclona State.
Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Close to see that noise and I have an endowment
scholarship at Chalklina State University. I give out scholarships every
year to South Carolina State University. They played the University
of South Carolina this weekend, which is very interesting. Me
and my wife are down there for the game. So
my wife is the alumni of the University of South Carolina.
But she also was a cheerleader, so you know, we're
a game cock household. But then they're playing South Carolina State.
That's my mom is alma mater.
Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
That's you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I got an honorary degree from there. So I was
just rooting for South Carolina this week. Yes, that chicken
spot you was down to go to. Oh yes, I
did up on the clues bomb for Banad. That backyard
dining experience. He ain't even fried chicken though, he fried fish.
Let me tell you something, if you get an opportunity
to go to Bernard and experience his backyard dining experience
to do it, that was That was like top two
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fried pieces of fish I ever had in my life.
And I come from a fried fish family. Now, my
my uncle has not a frozen good fish, my mother
not a frozen good fish. My daddy cowboy fries and
good fish. That man band and he only twenty five
years old. So, but the way he seasons it and
he has this like special hot honey sauce he puts
on it.
Speaker 31 (01:44:35):
It was.
Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
It was so crispy but yet tender to where you
biting into the bones you didn't even realize like the
bones were even kind of edible. And he fried a
croker and he fried red Snapper. Oh my god, dropping
the clues.
Speaker 11 (01:44:49):
Bomb of Banad.
Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
But Noad, yeah, man, the nod Banad hitting It looks
just as good as it does on Instagram.
Speaker 19 (01:44:55):
I was trying to find an article. Did you see
that You're the event that you did at the library?
It broke like an attendance record American, Yes, it broken.
I got an alert for you. Broken attendance record.
Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
I heard about that.
Speaker 18 (01:45:06):
Yeah, that was fired. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Yes everybody, yes, Loue, everybody who attended the International African
American Museum with myself and Black Effects sponsored it.
Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
On Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
I think they said that like two thousand plus people,
so that that's an amazing thing.
Speaker 10 (01:45:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
But you got a positive note, Yes, a positive note
is simply this and it comes from the Banks and
Thugs conversation because I keep telling y'all, man, the hardest
thing for men to do is just express that somebody
hurt your feelings. I just feel like that comes from trauma.
And I want y'all to know that trauma is a
fact of life, but it does not, however, have to
be a life sentence. And I also want y'all to know,
(01:45:38):
for everybody getting on their healing journeary healing journey, recovery.
Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Recovery is a process.
Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Okay, it takes time, it takes patience, and it's gonna
take everything you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
So I wish you all well on your healing journeys.
Speaker 11 (01:45:51):
We'll see you tomorrow Breakfast Club.
Speaker 20 (01:45:53):
You don't finish, or y'all done.
Good morning, Usa, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo yo Yo.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Jess is out today.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Charlemagne is a little late and it's Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning to you. What's up right? How you feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What a weekend? What a weekend. Salute to everybody that
was out in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
It was kind of weird for me because I was
out in Tampa DJing, but it was a tailgate party
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Atlanta Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How was it?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
It was cool?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It was It was a great game. But I'm a
Giants fan and my Giants played at the same time.
All missed out, not really because they got blown out,
so I really didn't miss out.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But it was dope.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So salute to everybody out in Tampa. So I really
shot there yesterday and it shot right back. So I
got back like midnight last night. But to everybody I
ran into Tampa. Tampa had some of the most amazing food.
It was just a great time just to get away
for a day or so. But got a great show
for you today. Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's
the co founder of The Daily Wire. He has a
new book, Lions and Scavengers, The True Story of America.
(01:05):
So we're gonna be kicking it with him and talking
about all the things that he believes that we might
not necessarily believe. But a great conversation is still a
great conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
How your team did over the weekend?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Uh, just play better than I thought he were gonna
play better. I'm just glad football's back overall. Yeah, you
and me both, because those week is a tough one.
There's nothing really to watch, and baseball, to me, it's
not good. Into the playoffs. Playoffs that's when baseball gets good.
Besides that, it's just like a last month.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Win a game, lose a game. Yeah, so let's get
the show. Cracker, we got front page news. Me and
Mia be joining us and in let me know how
your weekend was. Eight hundred and five eight five, one
oh five one. If you need the vin phone line
to wide open, it's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Let's get in some front page news. Start off with
sports now. Last night, of course, football is a back
Let's get to week one. The Commanders beat the Giants
twenty one six. The Jaguars beat the Panthers twenty six
to ten. Coach beat the Dolphins thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Three to eight.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The Charges beat the Chiefs twenty seven twenty one, The
Stealers beat the Jets thirty four to twenty two. Cardinals
beat the Saints twenty thirteen. Buccaneers beat the Falcons twenty
three twenty, Raiders beat the Patriots twenty thirteen. Broncos beat
the Titans twenty twelve, Rams beat the Texans fourteen to nine.
Packers beat the Lions twenty seven thirteen. The Bills barely
beat the Ravens forty one forty they actually came back.
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Bengals beat the Browns seventeen sixteen, and lastly, the forty
Nineers beat the Seahawks seventeen thirteen. Giants school, I said
that was the first one, I said, Nope, I said it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I told you stop.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Running your damn mouth facking like my Cowboys is gonna
be the only team in the NFC East that sucks
this year.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The two soccond teams are playing next week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Told you already that the Giants and the Cowboys gonna
be looking up at the Eagles and Redskins.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
All year long. Well, the two socket teams play next week.
What's up to me?
Speaker 8 (02:46):
What's up y'all?
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Good morning, Happy Monday, Good morning, maybe good morning. We
start this morning in Chicago, where Illinois Governor J. B.
Pritzer is blasting President Trump as a wanna be dictator
after Trump shared an a I generated image over the
weekend showing himself as a law enforcement officer, which.
Speaker 8 (03:04):
Chicago burning in the background.
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Now the image it was captioned, I love the smell
of deportations in the morning. Chicago About to find out
why it's called the Department of War.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Now.
Speaker 9 (03:17):
This post comes just one day after Trump signed an
executive order renaming the Department the Defense Department to the
Department of War. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson he called the
posts beneath the honor of our nation and warned that
Trump wants to occupy our city and break our constitution.
He already signed a protective order Mayor Johnson did to
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block any unapproved federal troop deployment. Now Pritzker he is
echoing that, saying Trump is threatening to go to war
with an American city and vowing Illinois will not be intimidated.
On Sunday, Trump tried to downplay that backlash, telling reporters
we are not going to war, We're going to clean
up our cities.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
That's not war. That's common sense.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
However, his Border chief Tom Home into CNN that Chicago
should absolutely expect enforcement action this week.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Absolutely, you can expect action.
Speaker 10 (04:09):
And most sanctuary cities across the country, President Crunch's prioritized
sanctuary cities because sanctuary cities knowingly release illegal alien public
safety threats to the streets every day. That's where the
problem is. We don't have that problem in Florida, where
every sheriff in chief works force right or Texas. So
we got to send additional resources to the problem marriage
which are sanctuary cities.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (04:30):
I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But if you're saying that you want to go into
these cities and clean up, you know, I legal immigration,
that's one thing. But to declare war, that's right, Our
seem like are implied that you're declaring war on the city.
You can't be upset when people have backlash today.
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Exactly exactly, and you know there's been some backlash or
some confusion over who does what. So, the National Guard
does not arrest immigrants. ICE agents Immigration enforcement does. But
with all the talk of sitting in the guards, a
lot of people are asking if it's for crime or
if it's to arrest legal aliens. And so the governor J. B. Pritsker,
he spoke to MSNBC this weekend about the role of
(05:08):
the National Guard and what they're exactly cooked they can
and cannot do.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
They are not allowed to do law enforcement.
Speaker 12 (05:16):
They can come into the city, but they are restricted
essentially to federal buildings. Protecting federal buildings. If that's what
they intend to do, that is legal. But they're not
allowed to simply come into the neighborhoods and start imposing
their will.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
So Prisker went on to say that ICE presence in
Chicago is already surging, with local officials warning as many
as three hundred agents may already be in the city.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
ICE and other federal teams.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Are expected to operate out of a naval station called
Great Lakes for about thirty days. Over the weekend, protesters
gathered outside that base to protest the expected immigration crackdown.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
And switching gears to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
Where we're Republicans are stepping up their crack down on Washington, DC.
They're rolling out fourteen new bills aimed at tightening federal
control as part of President Trump's crime initiative on the
nation's capital, but some of the proposals are drawing sharp criticism.
Among the most controversial bills is one that would give
Congress veto power over local laws by requiring every DC
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council bill to undergo a sixty day Congressional review before
it can take effect. Another would lower the age for
juveniles to be tried as adults from sixteen to fourteen
for violent crimes, and a third would repel the Incarceration
Reduction Act, which currently allows people convicted of serious crimes
as miners to request lighter sentences after serving at least
(06:44):
fifteen years.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Now. Local leaders in DC are calling this a power grab.
Speaker 9 (06:49):
They say that the crime in DC has already dropped
by fifty percent over the last two years.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
DC Attorney General Brian schwap He.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Is suing the Trump administration over the National Guard deployed.
He's arguing that federal government is policing the city without
local consent, and over the weekend, thousands of protesters they
took to the streets in DC to rally against Trump's
federal crackdowns.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
A demonstration was called We Are All d C.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
It was aimed at sending a clear message that residents
won't tolerate what they see as a militarized takeover. Meanwhile,
that guard deployment that began on August eleventh, it has
been extended to November thirtieth, so that is quite a
while for them to be in Washington, DC.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All right, well, thank you Mimi.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
All right, well, coming up at seven, if your electric
bill keeps climbing, will show you what may be behind
the SPI.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
That's at seven, all.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Right, everybody else, get it off your chest. Eight hundred
five eight five one oh five one. If you need
to vent, phone lines a wide open again eight hundred
five eight five one five.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
One, get it off your chest. Call us up right now.
It's the breakfast logan morning.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
The Breakfast club. Wait dog, this is your time to
get it off your chest. Five five one. We want
to hear from you on the breakfast club.
Speaker 13 (08:11):
Allow, who's this tea?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Good morning? Can you take us off bluetooth. I'm sorry,
can't hear me better? That's better. What's the matter, man?
Why you sound like something's bothering.
Speaker 14 (08:21):
You and it's not bothering me.
Speaker 15 (08:22):
I'm just not figure out what's going on.
Speaker 14 (08:24):
Me and my boyfriend. His mother watches our baby in
the morning or whatever, and this is a blessing between
our paper for daycare. But we got in a big argument.
He made a comment that you know, his family does
more for the baby than my side of the family
during the argument, and that's because I got a mass
potato when I was thirteen, so my family's really here
or there. Nevertheless, like that would makes me so weird
(08:45):
when I draw my baby off for the morning, says,
because I really don't know that conversation that's been behind
the closed doors.
Speaker 16 (08:51):
Like he loves me.
Speaker 14 (08:52):
We have a great relationship, literally, she's the best ever.
We never had a problem. We've been together like years
plus sol So it's just weird and I'm dropping my
baby off in the morning because it's like I don't
know if I still had.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
No comment, yes, yes, yes, yes you should yes, listen,
you know you know I'm realizing about humans.
Speaker 11 (09:14):
We don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You know what I'm saying, like, we don't know how
to tell people simply hey, that hurt my feelings and
then have a conversation about it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But was the argument with the grandmama? Was it it matter?
Speaker 14 (09:24):
It was with my boyfriend and that his mom, you know,
or his side of the family does more, I don't think.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
So have the conversation with your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
With your boyfriend, grandma might not even know. Grandma not
gonna take it off for her grandchild.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
My point is communication is important. We don't know how
to communicate. And you know, I was watching the Young
Thug Banks interview this week and it's reconfirmed what I've
always thought. We don't know how to simply tell somebody, hey,
you hurt my feelings and didn't have a conversation about it.
Speaker 11 (09:52):
Talk to your boyfriend. It's just that simple. It's really
that simple.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Good luck, And don't feel anyway that grandma not gonna
care about what was going on with her grandchild.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, now your boyfriend he hurt your feelings, and
have a conversation about it.
Speaker 14 (10:07):
I will, because you know, I gotta work on my
communications too. But it's just like you never know what
a mom and son. Now that I have a son,
you never know that relationship. And again I don't think
it was more her. I think stuff was just said
out of anger both ways, you know, but it does
makes me feel, you know, weird, My.
Speaker 15 (10:22):
Baby off are like, hey, did you say that you
did more?
Speaker 14 (10:25):
That was like maybe he should set the tone.
Speaker 15 (10:27):
And then I go in and have that woman too
in my conversation.
Speaker 14 (10:30):
Maybe I just think to take baby.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And the reason I push therapy so much to people
because all therapy teaches you how to do is open up,
be vulnerable, and know how to communicate.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Use your goddamn words.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
They tell us this when we're kids all the time,
but don't nobody know how to Don't nobody know how
to use their words in their adults?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Hello, who's this.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Carolina? Now?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Ryan says, your call a head for a specific reason
and a specific reason only go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Three?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What's the first one?
Speaker 13 (10:56):
One?
Speaker 17 (10:57):
I want to start with Lauren la Rover?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What he said to shoot his shot with Lorn La Rosa?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Go Hey, Lauren, how you doing?
Speaker 18 (11:05):
I'm doing good? How are you?
Speaker 11 (11:06):
You have no taste? Will continue doing well?
Speaker 19 (11:09):
You bro express a little bit too much if we
need to make you pull back, I communicate.
Speaker 17 (11:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Go Ryan, how yeah, Lauren?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 18 (11:23):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You got it? I got a shot?
Speaker 18 (11:26):
A shot at what?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You don't even know you You don't even say nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
How you can I take you out one black next time?
You and Charlotte, this, that and the other like you?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You come on, man.
Speaker 18 (11:35):
No I'm not I'm not even outside in the gym.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
No more.
Speaker 18 (11:37):
I'm doing good over here. I can't even a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You got too many? Now, man, we call her, We
go about it the.
Speaker 18 (11:43):
Right way anyway you like? Hey, Lauren, Hi, good morning,
I got a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah you sound well?
Speaker 18 (11:51):
Yep, go ahead.
Speaker 13 (11:52):
My little brother J d J. Queer, I was one
of her in mentor by you.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That was a terrible seguent. You know, I just you
was buy.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You hang up?
Speaker 18 (12:05):
They hang up like you know what?
Speaker 10 (12:07):
I need me?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
There you go? Get it on.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You still hung up on the man, even though he
asked a mentorship for his little brother.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, get it off. I don't know why people support.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Five one five on.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
You need to hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club, right right?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ray yo, Charla Man Davi, what up are we lost?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 20 (12:33):
I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
Speaker 21 (12:38):
Get on the phone right now.
Speaker 22 (12:39):
He will tell you what it is.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Lies.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 23 (12:43):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hey, good morning. Get it off your chest.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
Crap, this is.
Speaker 23 (12:48):
The im Florida. I am just getting off my chest.
I broke up with my boyfriend over the weekend. I
found out he was keeping on me with this at
least the minute Brown tea like it was crazy, But
I allow my standards to deal with that man completely,
like went against my pipe. And if I'm going to
deal with the same track anyway, I'm going back to
(13:10):
my saw doctor hands.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So, so you're a stripper, Andy cheated with you with
another stripper.
Speaker 23 (13:14):
No, I'm not a stripper. Okay, Now he cheated with
a supper. I found out about the surfer over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Her teeth for Brown, what her body looked like, though you.
Speaker 23 (13:25):
Look like it, And that's what made the worst. That's
what the words it was bad though horrible, legal like
it was. I don't even argue with the man. I
just I just saw my fust in the middle of
the night.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And let what's her instagram? So you might you a
little you might be a little bit jaded. You need
to let us.
Speaker 11 (13:42):
Judge whether or not you know she's trash or man.
Speaker 24 (13:46):
I don't have her instagram. I give you my instagram,
but you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm not interested in seeing you. You got cheated though,
like you don't want to see. I want to see.
I want to see what he cheated with. Well, I'm sorry,
you have to go your instagram.
Speaker 23 (14:00):
It's not even worth trash.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
What's your instagram? Let me look? What's your instagram?
Speaker 24 (14:06):
My instagram is Pineapple at the Story of Joy v O.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Y Ah, let's see.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's not coming up for me. Nope, it's not coming up.
I'm sorry you got cheated on?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, I really am.
Speaker 23 (14:21):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It was only it.
Speaker 18 (14:22):
Was Are you really sorry? He's a smirking pineapple for
you don't believe him?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm sorry, sorry you got cheated on.
Speaker 11 (14:30):
How old is your boyfriend?
Speaker 18 (14:33):
Oh my god, too old to be cheating.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
How old are you?
Speaker 23 (14:35):
Tell me about it? Tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
How old are you?
Speaker 11 (14:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Lord, have mercy? But I'm sorry, mama, it's okay.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
Why do I go to bread.
Speaker 23 (14:47):
We don't even find.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm more, it ain't worth it. How old the scripple
shut up?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I know, but the face she looked in the face jesus,
hey man, I'm sorry pineapp.
Speaker 23 (15:00):
You keep what is the last letter about?
Speaker 7 (15:05):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know what she said, just me neither have
a good week. Have a good week though.
Speaker 11 (15:09):
Forty three years old is too old to be cheating.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Hello, who's this?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yo?
Speaker 17 (15:13):
What up? This long?
Speaker 13 (15:15):
Lo?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Get it off your chest?
Speaker 15 (15:16):
Low?
Speaker 13 (15:17):
Yeah, I ain't got nothing to give off my chest.
Say my birthdays to feel good day.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
She's not here this morning.
Speaker 13 (15:23):
Oh oh, what I show the man?
Speaker 10 (15:25):
Yo?
Speaker 13 (15:25):
Listen, man, Charlotte mane, Charlotte mae. Hit me out to
my birthday.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Happy born day, King, Listen.
Speaker 13 (15:30):
I ain't asious for nothing. I answer for no money.
All I'm asking for is to come up here and
throw from slippers that you always be wearing. Be just
let me throw them joints out if you stop fresh,
she was good.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Ry for your birthday.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
You want him?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You want to cut something that concerns his slippers.
Speaker 13 (15:45):
I'm tired of them slippers every time he post them drinks.
I want to throw them drinks out, like, I don't
understand you. You you in New York, man, throw some
joints for your steek.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You think I care about being in goddamn New York.
My slippers look better than this city, right, they do.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Look better than the city is bad, but they are
better in the city. All right, Thank you, Happy birthday, brother,
Good luck, bro.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I'm never getting ready of these slippers. I made
history and the slippers keep them. The slippers got me
in the radio.
Speaker 17 (16:10):
Heart, Yeah, already in the morning.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't know if the slippers got you definitely? Did
you mean being here comfortable every morning got me in
the radio Hall of Fame?
Speaker 11 (16:18):
Yes, it's the slippers.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
Oh yeah, coming down here in Za.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, I'm not here.
Speaker 17 (16:26):
I'm from Detroit to whatever. I got a question as
a father and a grandfather about the Epstein case. Yes, sir,
now that Trump has said that Epstein took them girls
from his spa, he admitted that as the father, we
know at fifteen and sixteen, we have to get our
child work from it.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
We know our kid at work.
Speaker 17 (16:46):
What did they kill their mom? And when they came
looking for their daughters because they didn't tell him Epstein
took him. Well, I think we killed the family.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When I was watching the documentary, it seems like a
lot of them didn't tell their parents. A lot of
them they knew to focus on kids that didn't have money,
parents that were working and not around their kids too much.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And these kids would come.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Right after school, so it'd be like two three hours
right after school with parents necessarily didn't know where their
children were.
Speaker 17 (17:10):
That's boys down to what I was thinking. Because even
with the employees seeing them little girls working, they seen
them clark out, leave off the property off camera. How
we know Trump and Epstein didn't have gooms waiting on
them in advance and snatched them girls up? Because Trump
admitted he knew that Epstein took them, Why didn't he
say that twenty years ago? That's my only question. What
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did they tell the family?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
What do you saying?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You asking?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Why does someone my parents didn't tell?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
What are you asking?
Speaker 13 (17:39):
You know?
Speaker 17 (17:40):
What I'm saying is when the families came acting at
their job, have y'all seen my daughter? They saying no,
she left work. But Trump just admitted Epstein took them.
So when the families came looking for their daughters, Why
didn't they say Epstein took them?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Are you what are you basicing this off the I
don't know is this off the documentary because I haven't
watched the docorlid Trump.
Speaker 17 (18:02):
Just say this what Trump said himself, Epstein was a
creek because he took girls from him from his spot.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
No, yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was the spot.
He said that they used to work. He took employees
from him. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 17 (18:14):
Okay, my fan get it. You know Epstein took them
when Epstein was on trial, Why didn't you say Epstein
took them girls?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't think he said that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He was that he was taking them for the uh,
he was taking employees of sexual Yeah, he.
Speaker 11 (18:27):
Just said he was taking employees. He said, he said,
he said.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
He said.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It was over his Spa workers at mar A Lago.
He said he kicked him out of his club for
hiring workers away from mar A Lago.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
He didn't say that they were sex work.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, he said they were under age. He said they
was taking his workers, taking his employees.
Speaker 17 (18:41):
Okay, they need they need to look ato that. And
one of the last things look at that video when
Trump and Epstein standing there with them girl dancing in
front of them. Look at them girls faces them girls
fifteen and sixteen years old. Man, all right, brother, just
look at that when you get a chair.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm pretty sure that was established stry. Thank you, brother, Yeah,
get it off your chest.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one. Now
we got the ladist with Lauren.
Speaker 20 (19:05):
We do.
Speaker 18 (19:05):
We aren't going to get into the young thug interview.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It was a lot.
Speaker 25 (19:08):
It was.
Speaker 18 (19:09):
It was I mean it was almost three hours.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Old, the whole thing. Every single minute. I thought it
was incredible.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
I thought it was incredible. Couldn't have sat down with
anybody else. It was the perfect interview. I don't think
he needs to say anything else to anyone else, but
we're gonna break it.
Speaker 11 (19:23):
Nobody else could have conducted that like Banks. For a
number of reasons.
Speaker 18 (19:27):
It made you guy. I mean, you guys are a
little bit more mature than a lot of other people.
Speaker 19 (19:30):
But I feel like it humanized him in a way too,
because the conversation has been so stupid around all of
this stuff. It made me really look at this from
like a bigger picture of like to help people should
be getting with different things, Like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Some of it seemed to look seems it's still was
a little stupid to me, but I just loved the
way the fact that he was open, and I love
how Banks controlled.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (19:50):
Yeah, but we're gonna get into it because I think
one of my takeaways was, even though that stuff is stupid,
sometimes when you're raising certain things, no matter how far
you get, it's hard to get away from it. And
now he's opening up and you see the help he needs,
right Like y'all walked away feeling like he needs some
help and some Yeah, we won't talk about all of it.
It was a great interview, so we're gonna break it down.
I'm take some time with the interview and y'all reaction
(20:10):
to the interview as well.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
All Right, we'll get to the latest with Lauren next.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest
with Lauren. Lauren becoming a.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Straight fast.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
She gets them somebody that knows somebody to get the detail.
Speaker 18 (20:31):
I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And she'd be having the latest on That's the Law
The Latest with Lauren La Rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little bit everything on.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 19 (20:47):
So Young Thugs sat down for an exclusive interview with
a big bank on his show Perspectives.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yep, that you can listen to on The Black Effect.
iHeartRadio podcast network.
Speaker 18 (20:56):
Yeah, he's one of my Black Effect cousins.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (20:59):
So the intervie, you was, I mean three hours there
a great job. Yes, it was a great job. So
they opened the interview. It was very real from the beginning.
They started having a conversation in the beginning about whether
Young Thug learned his lesson because we've been seeing so
much back and forth with Thug online and then all
these jail calls leaking.
Speaker 18 (21:15):
Let's take a listen to that because.
Speaker 20 (21:16):
I'm gonna keep real with this line.
Speaker 22 (21:18):
Coming out of jail, it's like you you want to learn,
you ain't learned your less any calls talking on the phone, Like.
Speaker 20 (21:24):
What the hell want this? Like, I know you was
in the praying right, that'solot, do not understand your prayers?
Speaker 26 (21:28):
Got er, Yeah, you understand that, but you also listening
to people tell you like while you're the wizard. You
ain't going to prison, and then you you gotta understand.
I was in jail three years, bro like our praying
three whole year. At some point I started thinking, like
the prayers ain't working. Like I'm going through every day
I'm looking at my big friend and do what they do.
I'm looking at this. I'm looking at something and it's
making me feel I don't feel it. But I ain't
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never been talk I ain't never been to talk about
nobody else in my life on the phone with nobody else.
I've never been that time I've been. The last few days,
I've been sitting around like what was that, thinking like
what I was doing? He said, you say, I think
I would.
Speaker 20 (22:00):
So up, and I just felt like it was just over.
Speaker 26 (22:03):
Like I'm just sitting in jail twenty four hours on
twenty three and I'm in a sale twenty three hours.
Speaker 20 (22:08):
At this point, I'm just like, man, I don't give
a life. It ain't it ain't what I'm thinking.
Speaker 26 (22:11):
It is like I'm just talking now at this point,
I'm just talking. But it crazy for it is all
these conversations that I had on the phone I.
Speaker 20 (22:16):
Also had with the same I was talking about on
the phones.
Speaker 26 (22:19):
So that's why I don't seem weird between us, me
and them, because I didn't have these same conversations with Wayne.
Speaker 20 (22:24):
I don't heard they have these same conversations with Savage.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We talked like me and we brothers.
Speaker 17 (22:27):
We talked.
Speaker 26 (22:28):
You got to understand, like my standpoint, I'm locked up.
I'm on the phone talking to my girl every day.
This is the only person I'm talking to on the phone.
It's the only person that I can talk to.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The first twenty minutes of this conversation was Bank setting
the table for who Jeffrey is.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
His upbringing. That was dope before they even got to that.
Speaker 19 (22:46):
Yes, and a part of that in that opening was
from what I took from it was because it was weird.
It was like the interview was for us to get
this information. But I feel like Big Bank did a
really good job, almost like playing therapists. So it was
like him putting Thug in a mindset of like, think
about who you were before so many different things came
into your life, and let's go back to that, because
right now you're thinking is corrupted.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
There.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Listen, first of all, drop on the clue bombs for
Banks right, phenomenal job. There is nobody who could have
conducted that interview because regional identity in media matters, like
Atlanta needed to talk to Atlanta. I feel like Banks,
having acknowledged the different nuances different politics in Atlanta, made
this one of the best most compelling interviews I've seen
(23:28):
with a rapper in a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
But the respect was there as well.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Oh that's the respect was there too, So when the
questions were asked, it wasn't based off of trying to
get a headline.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was based off of respect.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well you can tell he said it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Thug respects Banks because Banks was really in the screech
of atl and Banks understands the inner workings of discreet
politics in Atlanta, and he knows exactly how the screechs
feel in Atlanta about the situation.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
But more importantly, like you just said, Lauren, Banks is
a man has done the.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Healing work on himself, so he was able to conduct
this conversation with a level of empathy and accountability that
a lot of other folks couldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And uh, thug needs to be on his healing journey
because that man is hurt.
Speaker 19 (24:04):
I agree now they do get into the gun of conversation,
which I also thought was handled very well because Big
Bank he played Devil's advocate a lot and challenged Thug
on some things a lot. Let's sake, listen to young
Thug loves Gonna and brotherhood.
Speaker 20 (24:18):
I love you, Bro, so you still love Bro. I
poured so much into this.
Speaker 26 (24:22):
I can't even hate him, Bro, I thought, and jail,
I thought I hated him when he took the police.
When they did that, I thought I hated My girl
made me realize, like, well, you don't hate him, you
just mad at him. You don't hate him, Bro, Well
I don't wish no ill, no ill will on him,
no ill sitting doctor man. It was because I was
just angry, but it seemed like nobody understanding why I'm a.
Speaker 20 (24:44):
Bro was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I understand what Thug is coming from. The hardest thing
for men to say people in general, is yo, you
hurt my feelings. Thugs feelings were hurt. He felt betrayal.
He's sitting in jail, and that man was hurt and
projecting that pin onto a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think people understand, he said, nobody
understood why he was hurting. No, we all understood why
you were hurt somebody that you considered the front.
Speaker 18 (25:08):
No, I understood it.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But I think I understood exactly why he was hurt.
I feel like.
Speaker 19 (25:12):
Thugget is responding to a lot of the public perception
and reaction. And the reaction was not we get why
Thuggets hurt. The reaction was I had theug you turn
the fingers on Gunn and now they're on you now, yep, now.
Speaker 18 (25:24):
But that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 19 (25:25):
He's like, he's literally said in this interview a couple
of times, I'm here because I feel like, as a man,
I need to speak to certain things because people are
questioning my moves and yeah, his morals.
Speaker 18 (25:35):
He feels like Gunna has not spoken to anything.
Speaker 19 (25:37):
Now let's take a listen, because Big Bank did get
into a conversation he had with Gunna when Gonna first
came home, and it was the first time that thug
had heard this information.
Speaker 18 (25:44):
Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 22 (25:45):
Reason why slim redonway slimy with Gunna because he already
put the word on stat and he got a stand
with the.
Speaker 20 (25:52):
Not saying this right or wrong. It's like how they
make these their friendship or whatever.
Speaker 22 (25:57):
They cambaradery with it, and then I come home I
feel And then I talked to Gunn when he first
got out of jail.
Speaker 20 (26:02):
I was trying to get angry with him.
Speaker 22 (26:04):
He was like, man, I ain't real about none, saying,
I know my brother in that bottle, I was just
in mine.
Speaker 20 (26:10):
Ain't right?
Speaker 22 (26:10):
Whatever on your fear to me? If it ain't when
you get out of jail, then my brother, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I love it.
Speaker 22 (26:16):
I know he loved me, he knowing, he knowing I
want to did that. I trouble exed him, Folks, is
this gonna affect my brother?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Listen, he should use this opportunity to forgive Gunner. Because
I'm listening to the conbo. You know, as I was
listening to the conbo with Banks, it seems like, you know,
thug got like I hate calling him thug. Jeff has
a lot of understanding towards everyone else and why they
caught please, but you know, with Gunner, he took it
a lot more personal. Also because I think of how
Gunner might have handled it when he came home. He
specifically said Gunnar wasn't looking off his mom. He just
(26:48):
felt like Gunnar wasn't, you know, dare for him the
way he should have been.
Speaker 19 (26:51):
Yes, but also too, he talked a lot about the
fact that the other please only happened because, according to Thug, yes,
because when Gunnar switched the conversation about what why else
it was everybody basically had to get out of the dodge.
Speaker 18 (27:02):
So so yeah, it would have more weight on it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But that was that was that conversation when he said
yes ma'am, yes, ma'am, when he was like his wife
hed a gang. Yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes.
Speaker 19 (27:11):
And if you guys remember when the when all that
was happening, back then, it was like one after the other,
like one player the other.
Speaker 18 (27:17):
But Gunna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 19 (27:18):
But Young Thug broke it down and said, well, Gunn,
it's plea happened first, and they just basically.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Had they were trying to they were the narrative that
was a gang wasn't what they were what they wanted.
But he said, Gonna was the first to affirmed it.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Was a game.
Speaker 19 (27:32):
And you would have thought that the attorneys were having conversations.
He said they were to a certain extent, but Gunnar
was like on the island by himself now in the
next hour, because there's just a little bit more I
want to get to because we've been have also a
lot of conversations about Hotlanta is in shamboos right now
right they seem so divided and we don't know what
leanna to be that. I think a big bank did
a really good job also of having a real O
G conversation with Thug about why all this needs to
(27:52):
stop and how we move on. So we're gonna button
it up with that at the top of the next
hour when we come back.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Job Banks, amazing phenomenal job.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I think also too, we got to remember too, remember
Thug signed in what twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, i'mb a
Stone that came out in twenty and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So the fact that we still have in these street.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Conversations five years later, ten years later, that's the problem.
We have to know, that's the problem. We have to
get to a place where we get out the streets.
Like when we say the streets is whack, the streets
is corny, right, because it leads to nowhere.
Speaker 18 (28:19):
Well, they tried to have that bank tried to have
that conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's just not Atlanta or they everywhere. They had that conversation,
and I thought they had it very well.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I'm just telling you, the hardest thing for men
to say to other men is you hurt my feelings
straight up. Once you say that, once you tell somebody, yo,
you hurt my feelings, then y'all can have a real
honest conversation about that. That's all therapy teachers you had
to do, is to open up, be vulnerable and communicate.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, we'll get to it next some more next hour.
Now when we come back. We got front page news,
and then Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's the
co founder of the Daily Wire. So don't move. It's
to Breakfast Club. Good morning on everybody. It's DJ MV
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Let's get back in some front page news. So off
for some quick sports now. Yesterday the Commanders beat the
Giants twenty one six. Jaguars beat the Panthers twenty six.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You to be breathing past the Giants got their ass
busted yesterday yeh, you say it real fast in the
beginning to try to throw people off. I don't like
that we lost, because you know, when the Cowboys lose,
you be in here, cheering, cheering chair. And I told
you the Giants gonna stup. By the way, God bless Theierra. Yeah,
I told your friends weren't gonna work for the Giants.
When she was here, I told her that she was good.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Yes, okay too.
Speaker 18 (29:29):
I wonder if she was nervous.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
It's only one game. The Bills beat the Ravens forty one, forty.
Packers beat the Lines twenty seven thirteen, Rams beat the
Texans fourteen nine, Broncos beat the Titans twenty twelve, Raiders
beat the Pages twenty thirteen, Buccaneers beat the Falcons twenty
three twenty. Cardinals beat the Saints. The Steelers beat the
Jets thirty four to thirty two. Forty nine Ers beat
the Seahawks, and Tonight and Monday Night Football, the Bikers
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take on the Bears at eight fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What's up, Mimi, what's up?
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Good morning, Good morning, Lauren, good morning, meet me morning.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
All right, So, the race for New York City mayor
it may be erupting into political chaos, with President Donald
Trump trying to reshape the field and Democrats are deeply
divided in progressive nominees Zoran Mandami fighting to hold the
party together ahead of the general election in November. Now,
this all started back in June when Mandonnia, a thirty
three year old Democratic socialist and state assemblymen, pulled off
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a stunning upset, defeating former Governor Andrew Cuomo by twelve
points in the Democratic primary.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
But instead of uniting behind him, many top.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Democrats are refusing to endorse him, including Senate Majority Leader
Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, both from
New York. Now, tensions are escalating after reports surface that
President Trump's aides have quietly been pressuring candidates to drop out,
including current mayor excuse me, Eric.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Adams, who's running for reelection.
Speaker 17 (30:56):
Now.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
According to multiple reports, Trump's team, they're floating the idea
of offering Adams an ambassadorship or another high profile role
if he exits the race. That move what clear the
path for Cuomo, who is running as an independent. At
a press conference late last week, Mayor Adams he denied
that he is dropping out of the race.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Let's hear what he had to say.
Speaker 27 (31:18):
Andrew Cuomo is a snake and a liar. I am
in this race and I'm the only one that can
beat Mendonnie. Andrew has had a career of pushing black
candidates out of races.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That must stop with me.
Speaker 27 (31:35):
I'm running and I'm going to beat Mandonnie, and I'm
going to continue the success that's the city has witnessed.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
Despite that clear message, sources have revealed that Mayor Adams
is scheduled to be in Washington this week for a
White House sit down. Now again, this all comes amidst
swirling speculation that President Trump his team is considering offer him,
offering him a predominant role, something like ambassador to Saudi
Arabia or position in housing in urban development.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Meanwhile, Mandy, go ahead say.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Maybe I don't think Adams are Cuomo is his name?
Curtis Silwell has the na Well, I don't think any
of them can beat Mundani if the race is currently
the way that it is, because all three, all three
of them are gonna split the vote. Yeah, that's Adams
and Mundanie head up? Are Cuomo and Mundani head up?
More so Cuomo, I think you know Cuomo would win,
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but if with all three of them in the race, no,
they're not gonna Beatmundana.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Yeah, so I think that's why they're trying to pull
out Adams right, so that they can center the votes
on Cuomo. And then this weekend, Bernie Sanders and AOC
they had a rally h they're trying to get folks
behind mundami. It was in Brooklyn and they said that
Democrats are sending the wrong message by staying silent. And
(32:54):
we're also talking about Governor Kathy Holkl. She has met
with Mundammie multiple times, but she has endorse him either.
So the progressives are calling on those top Democrats who
get behind him. They're saying it only strengthens Trump's influence
and positions.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Like you just said, Cuomo as a comeback kid. So
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
And so if your electricity bill has gone up lately,
you are not imagining it. Power prices they are climbing
faster than almost anything else that you're paying for, and
it's shaping up to be a major.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Political fight ahead of the election season.
Speaker 17 (33:31):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
According to the latest Consumer Price Index, electricity prices have
jumped five point five percent in the past year, double
the rate of inflation, and experts say the rising bills
are about to become a hot button issue for voters now.
Back in October of twenty twenty four, President Trump he
promised at the time he was a candidate, but he
promised to slash the electricity bills by fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
So that was almost a year ago. Let's remind ourselves
of what he had to say back then.
Speaker 28 (33:58):
We're also cut in energy and electricity prices and half
fifty percent within twelve months, including for all people and families,
not just companies. So ready, your energy bill will be
cut from January twenty will be cut by fifty percent
in twelve months.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, five doll fifty percent.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
So that was back in October of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
But so far prices are moving in the opposite direction,
and experts say Trump's own policies could be making things worse.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
His administration has.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Cut subsidies for wind and solar energy, fast tracked construction
of power hungry AI data centers, and push exports of
US natural gas overseas, and that means less supplies here
at home, driving prices higher, and Democrats they are seizing
on the issue, blaming Trump for what they call an
energy crisis, and energy experts say the full impact though
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of this the policies they haven't hit yet. Electricity tends
to rise with lag as fossil fuels are exported and
less renewable energy gets built. Consumers could see even steeper
bills in the coming months, but for now, both parties
are pointing fingers and many of the households, many consumers
are left to fit that bill with no relief in sight.
(35:16):
So we'll keep watching that. And finally, you all, we
have a powerball winner. Actually we have two powerball winners,
one in Texas and one in Missouri, so they will
split that grand prize I think four hundred and ten
million dollars each.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Wow, congrassat.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
So, the the ticket in Texas was sold about twenty
five miles out of care County. And if you remember,
care County was that place where they had that massive
flooding back in July where one hundred and twenty people
pass away. So each person, though, like I said, will
take away four hundred and ten million dollars. And if
you're hoping for a big press conference with everyone carrying
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their checks, don't hold your breath because both in Texas
and in Missouri you can remain anonymous.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Very smart individuals, Yes right, very smart individuals. God bless them.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I hope that they remain anonymous and they understand financial
literacy and they live some very fruitful eyes. You know
you'll be going crazy after they win, win those big lotteries.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
They sure do so well. That's your front page news.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
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Speaker 8 (36:28):
Visit bi nnews dot com.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Thank you, Mimi, thank you. Now when we come back,
Ben Shapiro will be joining us. He's the co founder
of The Daily Wire. He has a new book, Lions
and Scavengers, The True Story of America. We'll talk to
him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Everybody is dj n V.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Just Hilarias Charlamage, the gud We are the Breakfast Club.
Lalla Rosa is here as well, and we got a
special guest in the building.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yes, indeed we have Ben Shapiro. Welcome.
Speaker 29 (36:58):
Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate Yeah, doing okay, right, yeah,
thank god.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
BN's got a new book out lines and Scavengers The
True Story of America.
Speaker 11 (37:06):
Very interesting read.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You define the Lion as people who uphold biblical values,
individual responsibility, and moral do yes, and you contrast them
with scavengers when you say demand entitlement, blame systemic oppression,
and lack purpose.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Expound on that.
Speaker 29 (37:20):
Sure, So I think the basic division is not a
right left division.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
You know.
Speaker 29 (37:24):
In the book, I actually tried really hard not to
turn it into a right left division because I don't
think that it actually is. And I think it's also
an internal battle inside our own heart that we get
up in the morning and you have to decide when
you face down the problems of the day whether you're
going to be somebody who takes responsibility, does your duty,
gets out of bed and actually decides to do something
meaningful in the world, or they can be somebody who
looks at the problems in your life, blames some sort
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of shadowy system and then complains about that. None of
that is to claim that you know there aren't systems
that exist that are bad and that need to be fixed.
But you need evidence and you need actual correctives to
those systems in order to actually practically fix those systems.
So the contrast that I'm making here is between people
who decide that they want to build, you know, create
social fabric, be innovative, be risk takers, and people who
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simply want to tear down. And you see, you know,
for example, in some of these college protests, people who
are marching together who have nothing in common except that
they just don't like the system. And they don't even
have a replacement for the system. It's just that the
system itself must be to blame for all of their problems.
That's sort of the basic contrast.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I'm sorry, I know we just jumped out the window.
For people that don't know who Ben Shapiro's, Let's start
from the beginning. Explain to people who Ben Shapiro is,
and where you stought, where you came from, and et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
So they know.
Speaker 29 (38:34):
Sure. I mean, my basic job is that I'm co
founder of The Daily Wire, which is the second largest
conservative media organization in the country after Fox News. Probably.
I have a podcast called The Ben Shapiro Show that's
about ten years old now and maybe the biggest conservative
podcast in the country. And you know, my sort of
early beginnings where I grew up in Burbank, California. Thank god,
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I had the highest form of privilege, which was fantastic parents.
And I grew up in a very small, like eleven
hundred square foot house with three sisters, one bedroom for us,
one for my parents, one bathroom for six people. And
you know, I've been again privileged to live in the
greatest country in the world. And so went to UCLA,
went to Harvard Law School. I've been doing commentary on
politics since I was about seventeen years old. I'm now
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forty one.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So that's one of the politics. So early at seventeen,
what did you see this or though I want to
do this? So what didn't you like that made you
want to do?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 29 (39:22):
I mean I was always fascinated just by history, and
because I was a big reader, I skipped a couple
of grades. I went to college when I was sixteen,
and so because I loved reading it, because I loved
history and politics, I just got very, very into it.
And you know, we live in interesting times now. I
thought they were interesting back when I was seventeen. It
is way more interesting and insane now. I feel like
an alternative timeline somehow spun off into into Elon's you know,
(39:45):
fever dream, but it's definitely a we're in a weird
place now.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Was it goal always to be a commentator or did
you want to jump into say I wanted to do
something at the White House.
Speaker 29 (39:53):
Or No, it was always to be a commentator. I
mean again, from the time I was seventeen. I had
a syndicated colum when I was seventeen years old, so
at the time I was the youngest syndicated commists in
the country. I would say most of the dumb crap
that I said was between the ages of like seventeen
and twenty five, like most people. And I do have
a running list on because so much of my you know,
kind of political career has been public from the time
I was a teenager. I actually have a running list
(40:14):
on our website of all the dumb crap that I've
said over the course of my career, trying to either
explain or apologize for stupid things that I've said.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
You know, I ever people listed it, just blame it
on AI.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Why would you ever do that?
Speaker 29 (40:27):
I think it's the honest way to go, right, I mean,
better do that otherwise somebody uncovers it and uses it
against you.
Speaker 17 (40:32):
Is he better?
Speaker 29 (40:33):
You may as well?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But you know what, I always had a saying, live
your truth, so nobody uses your truth against you. And
I call it the eminem and eight out there, because
you know, at the end of day, my eminem said
everything you know about himself that's his opponent could say
about him, You're still gonna use it against your regardless.
Speaker 29 (40:48):
I mean, that's definitely true, but there and so there
are certain statement where I'm like, yeah, no, I meant
that when I when I wrote that in nineteen and
then there are statements where I really think it was
kind of dumb, and so I would like people to
know that I think that it was dumb, that I've
changed my mind on things, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Biggest one you think.
Speaker 29 (41:01):
Let's see, there was a there's a column that I
wrote about civilian casualties when I was nineteen years old
that was poorly articulated at best, talking about how the
US Army should basically not take consideration of civilian casualties
because I would rather, you know, protect American soldiers than
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worry too much about civilian casualties. It wasn't articulated in
that way. I think the general principle of that is
still you know true that when you're when you're looking
at American soldiers, obviously you have to value their lives
and you have to make sure that they can actually
engage in wars in ways that protect them because obviously
we're American and our interest in America is protecting America.
But it was very poorly articulated. So that'd be a
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big one.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
You feel that way about Israel Gaza war?
Speaker 29 (41:47):
Sure, okay, yes, I mean it Israe. Again, I know
a lot of people over in Israel obviously, and yeah,
I know a lot of soldiers who have grave wounded
going house to house in a conflict where clearly I
know Shaka right, well what was the giveaway exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
But but you believe that so you understand why people
are upset about what Israel is doing.
Speaker 29 (42:10):
I mean, I certainly understand that conflict is incredibly ugly,
and when you look at pictures, particularly drone pictures of
wrecked areas, then it's very I mean any conflicts mean, yes,
although I will say obviously that that I believe that
that Israel has been as meticulous as any army in
history in terms of its its tactics in urban warfare,
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and the numbers bear this out. And again, I know
people who have had their legs blown off going specifically
house to house when Israel had complete air superiority. If
Israel just didn't care about civilian casualties, they were leveled
the place October eight, and they did not. They've been
going house to house, they've been moving populations. Obviously, all
all this is ugly. There's no such thing as a
pretty war, particularly in an urban environment. And could things
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be done differently or should they be done differently in
case by case situations. I'm sure yes, I mean again,
war is very ugly. But this sort of large scale
accusations have been made that Israel doesn't care about civilians,
or that Israel has been attempting a genocide. That's just
factually untrue.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You don't think what's happening in God is a genocide, correct, Okay,
but the world's the leading association of genocide scholars has
declared that Israel is committing genocide and God that based
off the pure definition of.
Speaker 29 (43:16):
Well, it's not actually if you read their actual study,
it's not based on the qute unquote pure definition of genocide.
They don't actually even define genocide in the document, and
they basically went out to their membership, but they didn't
go out to the entire membership. They went out to
generic membership. It is very easy to join the International
Association of Genocide Scholars. In fact, there were several people
yesterday who just signed up and were immediately admitted, even
though they have no actual background in genocide. The question
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is not whether some sort of coterie of people who
call themselves experts in an issue are quote unquote experts
on the issue. The question is whether the definition is met.
The definition of genocide is not met in Gaza by
any stretch of the imagination. And you can cite to me,
you know a group that I hadn't heard of until
two seconds ago, and nobody had heard of it until
two seconds ago that voted in a particular way. That
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doesn't make a difference definitionally, So what does a genocide do?
A genocide is the attempt to forcibly destroy an entire population,
which is not what has happened.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
So it's not the attacks on the personal facilities needed
for like survival, like health care and educational institutions.
Speaker 29 (44:16):
Well, Israel has shipped in more humanitarian aid into the
Gaza Strip than literally any army to in a population
that supports the enemy in literally all of human history.
They'veen shipping in about forty four hundred calories per day
per person into the Gaza Strip in the middle of
a war in which the enemy is holding actual Israeli
hostages underground, who, as we've seen from some of the pictures,
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are actually starving. Again, none of this is to claim
that the war is pretty or meticulous or anodine, because
it isn't. It's really really, really ugly. But over the
course of this war, about three percent of the Gasmen
population has been killed or wounded. If you're going to
look at an actual genocide, obviously the prototypical case being
in the Holocaust, you're looking at fifty percent of the
entire Jewish population in Europe destroyed. If you're looking that
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other attempted genocides, say the the genocides in rwand, you're
hung an extraordinarily high percentages of the population that are
wiped out. You certainly are not seeing procedures that require
four layers of actual legal authority in order to do
a drone strike, and I've actually seen the tape of
them doing this in Israel. They actually, if they spot
from the air a terrorist who is going into a
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particular civilian area, you hash to take a full minute
where the pilot on the drone calls up the legal authority,
who then calls up the higher legal authority to get
clearance for the actual drone strike. And they will call
off the drone strike if they believe that the military
target is too costly in terms of civilian casualties. And
Kamas knows this, which is why they're hiding among civilians.
In fact, the best proof that this is not, in
fact a purposeful genocide is the fact that Kamas is
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hiding behind civilians. The reason you hide behind civilians is
because you know your enemy doesn't want to kill civilians.
If you believe your enemy doesn't care about killing civilians,
wouldn't hide among civilians. Wouldn't be a defense mechanism.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Do you think Israel needs a regime change?
Speaker 29 (45:55):
It's I mean, Israel's a democracy. They've had I think
five elections in the last four years, probably will be
election again in March. I do not think that Israel
would be conducting this war very differently if there were
somebody else in power. And I actually know every Israeli
Prime minister for the last ten years, including the ones
who are on the opposite side, people like, yeah, you're Lapeede,
(46:15):
who's on the opposit side, or enough Tolly Bennet, who's
on the opposite side.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
But it's still kicking to a Ben Shapiro, the co
founder of the Daily Wire.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
And you believe in bandon.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Abortions, right, I'm pro life, yes, even in cases of incests.
Speaker 29 (46:25):
Rate yes. Why because this is a sort of a
fundamental definitional question. If you believe life begins at conception,
then regardless of the source of the life, it now
has an independent interest in life. So that is not
to minimize the tremendous evil of rape or incests. I
believe rape should be executed frankly or chemically castrated at best,
(46:46):
But you know that's sort of a different question from
the independent source of life and whether whether this again,
it gets back to definitions, and this conversation tends to
be either you're on one side of that or the other.
If you don't believe life begins at conception, then obviously
you believe abortion is acceptable in a wide variety of circumstances.
If you believe it's an independent life deserving a protection,
then you believe it's an independent life deserving of protection or.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
What are you thinking about that? I'm just as one.
Speaker 19 (47:11):
I think that a woman should be able to choose
to do what she wants to do wherever she decides
to do it. I personally, I believe that women should
be able to abort babies if they want to, if
they feel like that's what they need to do.
Speaker 29 (47:20):
Did you have a time limit on that? Out of curiosity?
Speaker 19 (47:22):
I mean, I think it should happen earlier on if
it were you me making a decision for myself. But
I think it's up to the woman and what she's
personally experiencing and what she personally went through. I really
think it's a per person thing. That's why I think
it's crazy when you have like these structures and these
like people who are not in that situation making the
decision for the woman of what you can and can't do,
Because it's very like, per person, my situation might be
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different than another woman who's it next to me.
Speaker 29 (47:47):
Right, So again, this is sort of the definitional issue
that we're talking about because you're talking about what a
woman should be allowed to do, and what I'm talking
about is the definition of personhood of the separate person
inside the woman. I think that what I push on
is why do you personally believe that woman should have
an abortion earlier?
Speaker 19 (48:02):
I think, just from personal experience I've been in this situation,
I just think emotionally and mentally, it's less that you
think about, but it does depend on how you think
of when the life is formed or you know, should
be looked at as like a life that you right.
Speaker 29 (48:15):
So that's that's that I think is the big question,
and that's where the disconnect is.
Speaker 18 (48:18):
So so but that what I'm saying is that that's
always going to be different for each person.
Speaker 29 (48:22):
But I don't think that the subjective definition of life
is how we define life. Meaning that you being uncomfortable
with a woman having an abortion in the ninth month,
you're saying that just because you're uncomfortable with it, that
doesn't mean that you should stop a woman from doing that.
My point is that life has a definition, right. We
all agree, for example, that a one month old baby
should not be drowned. We all agree on that, and
that's not up to the personal shouldn't maybe and drowned
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about them?
Speaker 13 (48:45):
Right?
Speaker 29 (48:45):
And the question is, well, why because we now understand
that the one month old baby. Everyone agrees with this
right except for Peter Singer at Princeton, that a one
month old baby has an independent interest in life. Right,
that is a life, that is that is separate from
the woman and requires pretent Okay, so if it is
a life, then we now have an objective definition. Doesn't
matter what the state of mind of the woman is,
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doesn't matter if she thought, you know what, I have
a really tough life. My life will be better off
if this baby is dround, if I don't have to
deal with this baby, and so I'm gonna drown the baby.
The baby has an independent, actual interest in living. And
so the question becomes is that true before birth? And
I think for the vast majority of Americans are actually
somewhere where you are, practically meaning that the vast majority
of Americans do see, in sort of a soft way,
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a distinction between you know, the early stages of life,
you know, month two and nine month, right, Like, the
approval in America of abortion at the very late stages
is very, very low because most.
Speaker 18 (49:38):
Americans sparks around like four or five months for most people.
Speaker 29 (49:40):
Right, Well, I mean most abortions are performed in the
in the first time matter. Yes, yes, But the point
that I'm making is that the logic that you're using
allows for abortion like literally right before the baby is born.
So then the question becomes why is that? Okay, And
it's not a woman's choice at that point whether that
is a life or not, because you don't get to
artific or subjectively define the meaning of the things.
Speaker 11 (50:03):
Ye, that's fact.
Speaker 29 (50:04):
It's it's not semantic. Either it's a life or it's
not a life.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Right, Your daughter was raped, and it's almost like you're
saying she's rape and I'm gonna make her have this child. No,
I'm I mean you're saying you don't believe in abortion
even if rape and incests.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Right.
Speaker 29 (50:15):
What I'm saying there is that I don't believe in
abortion in case of rape and incest. The practical effect
is horrif horrible. Okay, I'm not going to pretend that
it is not emotionally horrifying that particular situation. The question
is whether it has an independent interest in life or not,
and whether there's a third party involved. If you don't
believe there's a third party deserving a protection, I totally
get it. I get it, but we should we should
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understand that that's the actual conversation. The actual conversation is
about whether you believe that this is an interested third
party being. Do you get to kill that interested third
party being this human life with potential or do you
not if you And so the actual argument that that
I don't like is the idea that that you can
that everybody it's up to every single person to define
when life begins and when life does not begin. That
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that actually is not true, right, there's either a standard
or there's not a Now you can say that that
life begins when the baby is independent of the mom.
I think it's a very dicey biological argument. And I
think most Americans agree with that that life only begins
when the baby exits the heartbeat. Yeah, okay, so I
think that's where most Americans are. And that's extremely early, right.
And so if that's extremely if the life begins with
the heartbeat, then you're now talking about, depending on your
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definition of a heartbeat, somewhere between six and ten weeks,
very very very early, and so if that is now
has an independent interest, you're talking about abortion restrictions very
early on, and so that's why you know a lot
of red states have heartbeat laws, for example. And so
again I think that the clarity is good, right, because
now we can have a conversation where do you think
life begins? And that's a better conversation than the sort
(51:41):
of assumption by I think people who are not pro
life that it's just about controlling the woman's body. No,
it isn't, Okay, it really is not like for pro lifers.
It has literally nothing to do with the woman's boy.
It has to do with the independent interest of the
life inside the woman and how you define that.
Speaker 19 (51:57):
We want you to find it once you define it,
dependent on your definition, it does control what a woman
can and can't do with their body.
Speaker 29 (52:03):
Well, they're downstam effects definitions of course, right. I mean,
if I define life as it begins at a heartbeat,
then that is going to have public policy ramifications that
affect just as in anything else. If I define theft
in a particular way, that's going to have downstream effects
on people who commit that definition of the crime. And
if I broaden the definition, it's going to include more people.
And that's true for literally any legal term. It's true
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for any word that we use in life. As you
expand the definition, it affects more people in different ways.
But that doesn't change the necessity to have the conversation
about what the definition is. And I think it's an
easy way out to basically say, well, you know, I
have a definition of life. But and it gets into
very icy territory because historically people have defined to define
a way entire populations as not human. And so we
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can't do that, right, Like, you really don't want people
looking at other people and saying, well, by you know,
I don't think that this person I mean to take them.
The obvious and most controversial example for a huge percentage
of American history, there is a wide variety of people
in America who believe black people were not fully human
and therefore right correct and so like the and so
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was that a subjective question? That was not a subjective question.
Black people are fully human and just as human as
white people, equal the same, right like, and so if
somebody were to say, listen, I personally I am anti slavery.
I think that slavery is is personally wrong but it's
really up to every person to define for themselves whether
a black person is fully of human or not fully
of human.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Like, what the why don't think you can do?
Speaker 19 (53:31):
Why just because I think you know, if if I'm
making so if you're a slave master, right and you
say I believe slavery is right because black people aren't human,
Like that's a decision that you're making that is based
on things like you know, what the slaves can do
for you and your property, like the benefit of what
slavery will do for that slave masters So different than
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if a woman has to have a baby because she
was raped and how that will affect her life like that,
I think you have a decision that you can a
lot easier.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
It almost like you force a woman twice, right because
becomes a slave master.
Speaker 11 (54:07):
Jewish analogy?
Speaker 29 (54:08):
Sure so, I mean, I mean sure, so if there
was an entire population in Europe that was considered sub
human by the Nazis and they were exterminated, if you said,
I am personally against the extermination of the Jews, but
I understand why Germans could think the Jews are subhuman,
And so you know, it really is up to each
every individual to determine whether a Jew is human or
not fully human and can be put in the back
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of a van and gass. We'd be like, what are
what in the world.
Speaker 11 (54:33):
In saying, there'd be no pro choice.
Speaker 29 (54:35):
In God, Yes, the definitions are not a matter of choice.
Definitions are a matter of actual objective fact. Otherwise we
can't even have a conversation because if words have meanings,
then we all have to agree on that at least
that right. That much we have to agree on is
the meaning of the words. And when it comes to
you know, so the slave master analogy, The point that
I'm making here is not about the personal experience of
the slave master. In fact, I'm saying it's completely irrelevant.
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What I'm saying is that the reason that that slavery
was wrong is because black people are fully independent human
beings who require the protection of the war in the
same way as everyone else. And if you're a pro lifer,
you believe that's also true of the unborn.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
We're still kicking to rebenge Shapiro settlement.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I'm a pro choice person, but I do wonder how
come pro life people aren't anti war.
Speaker 29 (55:16):
Well, I mean, because anti I think everybody is anti war.
I think the question is is the definition of when
war is appropriate. I don't think like who's running around
going like war is awesome, Yes, more war, let's do it.
So fifty thousand kids have been killed in God because
of this current depends on the definitions and the list
that you're getting. Well, I mean, it also depends on
how you're defining kid because the way that Hamas defines
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kid is very different than how they define kid when
it comes to recruiting for Kamas. Right, they're fifteen year
olds with with aks on the battlefield. Unfortunately, it is
not fifty thousand of them. I mean, if they're talking
aboutf you're talking about very very small children, is much
much lower.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
My point is there are children that are being killed.
Speaker 29 (55:53):
Yes, who have died as collateral damage in the war.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yet THO shouldn't pro life, would be totally against it?
Speaker 29 (55:57):
Well, I mean I'm against the death there any and
it's human being. The question is when you're doing foreign policy,
how you prevent more deaths in the future. And the
point that I think Israel is making is this war
was legislation.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
And it is actually not a matter of morals and
values or no.
Speaker 29 (56:12):
Well, of course, of course the matter of morals and values,
but you can't be Let's put it this way. It's
incredibly reductive to simply say that if you are a
moral person, then you oppose a war, because what that
does it allows immoral people to then use that against
you to destroy your civilization. If your community is attacked
and bad people who don't have the same values as
you decide to kill you, kill your children, rape your
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wife and kill her, are you supposed to say, well,
I'm anti war, and so I'm going to sit here
and do nothing.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
So isn't that the same if somebody rapes a woman
and impregnates them. Shouldn't in that case that person be
allowed to make a choice.
Speaker 29 (56:44):
Well, no, The point is that the prevention. This is
why you should minimize civilian casualties. To get back to
the beginning of the conversation, this is why it's independently
moral to try as much as possible to minimize civilian casualties.
And when it comes to abortion, the idea is you
can minimize that casualty by just preventing it.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
Before you go out, we want to talk to you
about one thing you said in your book. You said
the founding fathers in America's constitutional order. You said that
they are the lions, right, who built systems of freedom
and opportunity. We talked about the two shows compromise then,
so everybody wasn't free when those things like the Constitution were.
Speaker 29 (57:18):
One hundred percent. And so to pretend that the systems
were not deeply flawed and that we didn't have to
fight a gigantic civil war that killed hundreds of thousands
of Americans eighty years afterward would be obviously historically inaccurate.
But the point is that the systems that they were
designing provide the framework for that freedom. Or this is
the argument that Frederick Douglass makes in his speech on
July fourth, Right, is that July fourth isn't for Black Americans,
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but it should be right. That should be it should
be for black Americans. That's why that speech is so
wonderful is because what he's saying is that the promises
the founding Fathers made were not fulfilled, which again is
the same thing that MLK says. Right, is that he's
not throwing out the systems. He's saying the system is good,
but it's flawed. Let's fix the system. That is a
lion thing right, so he can say the founding fathers wereliant.
And also the people who are fighting what the Founding
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fathers did with the three fifths compromise were also lions.
I mean, to be fair to some of the Founding fathers.
The reason for the three fifths compromise that some of
the Founding fathers were very much pro slavery, and many
of the Founding fathers, like for example, John Adams, were
very much anti slavery. And the reason for the three
fifths compromise is because if there were no three fifths
compromise in the Constitution, then actually the Southern slave holding
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states would have been overrepresented.
Speaker 5 (58:22):
Right.
Speaker 29 (58:22):
John Adams and others said, if the Southern states are
going to treat black people as not citizens, they shouldn't
be They shouldn't be citizens for purposes of abortionment or
you're going to get overrepresented in Congress. That's the historical
reason for the three fifths compromise. But again it is
again good evidence that yes, slavery was accepted at the time,
not just in America obviously everywhere was still legal in
the British Empire. The United States abolishes slavery in eighteen
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sixty three under the Emancipation Proclamation. But you know, there
are many countries that continue to hold slaves today, and
so I think the story of America, to pretend that
it's not flawed is wrong. Also, I think that, again,
as with any binary it's too simplistic. There are lions
who do scavenger like things. There's scavengers who do lying
like things. I think we're all a combination of both
those things. But you try to be as lying like
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as possible in our lives and in our politics, and
we'll stumble, and we'll fall, and we'll fail, and we'll
fall into envy, and we'll do terrible things to one another.
But the more that we can act like lions as
opposed to scavengers, the better we in the country will be.
Speaker 19 (59:17):
Had a question, Yeah, I had completely I mean maybe
not completely different topic. But Candice Owens, she was here
when she said that you couldn't fire her from a
daily wire.
Speaker 30 (59:26):
You know, there was a video circulating of him calling
me a disgrace when a faux professional or whatever it was.
I decided to choose peace, and then when I chose peace,
he responded to the peace with not peace. Well as
I explained on Tucker Carlson's show, like Ben doesn't have
the power to fire me.
Speaker 18 (59:44):
Like that was happening here in the breakfast club.
Speaker 19 (59:45):
So and I saw everything that happened after and you
guys said that you guys were going separate ways.
Speaker 18 (59:49):
She says she was finally free. Did she quit because
you told her to quit?
Speaker 29 (59:53):
I really get into this, I mean so like for
for legal reasons, I will say that that it's you know,
talking openly about this is kind of a problem.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
You know.
Speaker 29 (01:00:03):
I will say that the Candace and I have have
obviously quite significant political disagreements, and as the as the
founder of a company that you know, is dedicated to
certain propositions, we have many people who I would not hire,
and I would not hire. Candas owns today, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
What about free speech? And my boy Andrew Schultz, he
said that, you know you, he said, if if you're
not about free speech when you fired Canvas, then you
are just a propaganda machine for Israel. O.
Speaker 29 (01:00:29):
Well, with all respect Andrew Schultz, that's a dumb ass
thing to say. And the reason that's a dumb ass
thing to say is because I've noticed that Candas is
doing quite well for herself is right, and so I've
not called for her to be deplatformed. I've not called
for her to be prosecuted. I am not under no
obligation to pay people from my pocketbook who are espousing
beliefs that I find antithetical to my own. You don't
(01:00:50):
have to hire you know, you don't have to hire
Nick Flin since her David Duke to come be a
host at the breakfast club. That is not a violation
of free speech.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
That's true.
Speaker 19 (01:00:56):
There's been the word anti semi has been thrown around
to silence a lot. Do you feel like she's anti Semitic?
Speaker 29 (01:01:03):
I will say that that some of the things that
she says would to me certainly fall in that category.
I try not to use that terminology. And the reason
I try not to use that terminology is I don't
think that it's useful. I think that the term has
been emptied of sort of all of its content in
the same way that that Americans are now used to
I think everyone being called racist, and so they stopped
actually paying attention to racism in many ways, which is
(01:01:24):
I think quite bad. I want to avoid doing the
same thing here.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So what's the solution been when you talk about inequality
and civic conclusion, what's the solution? We've talked about a lot.
Are we just selling books that we just podcast?
Speaker 29 (01:01:35):
So I think that the solution on a personal level
is go to church, get married before you have babies,
get a job, find the ways in your life that
you can make your life personally better. Engage with your community,
find policies that you think are going to be best
for your community, and push for those things on the
local level predominantly. I think the other thing is that,
you know, I don't want it to sound self serving,
but I'm you know, I'm grateful to you for having
the conversation with people look on the other side of
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the aisle.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You know.
Speaker 29 (01:01:57):
I think that that is really important. I think it's
going away, and I think the only way for you know,
there for what I call in the book a Pride
of Lions, is for people who believe in personal responsibility
and duty and basic American ideals to get together and
hash all this stuff out because we do have more
in common than you know, we do with with people
who want to destroy the civilization. And I think that
that that really needs to be strengthened in a pretty
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significant way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
But you have to actually listen to what a person
is saying, and I get caught up in all the buzzwords.
One of my favorite episodes of Bill Maher in recent
times was when you was on There with My Guy
with Cary Sellis.
Speaker 29 (01:02:28):
Yes, I thought that was but Carry's awesome. Yeah, I
mean again, I think McCarry's great. And we totally disagree
on an enormous number of things, but it's a productive conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
All right, Well, pick up the book right now.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
It's outlined, The Scavengers, The True Story of America and
her Critics.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Ben Shapiro, that's right. Thank you for joining us this morning,
and thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 29 (01:02:47):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It is Ben Shapiro. It's the Breakfast List in the morning.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Well, let's get to the Latest with Lauren.
Speaker 11 (01:02:52):
Lauren become a restraint things.
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
She gets somebody that knows somebody.
Speaker 18 (01:02:59):
I'm no longer that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
She'd be having the latest on the Latest with Laurence
la Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little bit of Everything's.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
On the Breakfast Club talk.
Speaker 19 (01:03:15):
All right, So I'm gonna go back to the Young
Thug interview really quickly because I want to I do
want to talk about kind of how they ended the interview,
which was a moving forward conversation. So there's been a
lot of conversation on Young Thug and him not releasing
music and where is the music? And he actually got
into why we haven't heard music from him? Let's take her.
Listen to Young Thug getting emotional.
Speaker 26 (01:03:35):
You said, play why not thinking about because you don't
got my twin, bro, don't got my friends, Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Jeff who I be with every day?
Speaker 26 (01:03:45):
I don't got no no more brother, and I ain't
lose no to tragit on now I lost betray him? Bro,
you signing that one piece of paper signing your and
this is on this one piece of paper could get
me a life setting my like, what come on, bro,
I get a light snding all.
Speaker 20 (01:03:57):
This piece of paper you signed up? Brock are you
trying to get home fans? Are you just trying to
get to it or you're just doing a certain thing.
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Bro, And you already betrayed him with broh a piece
of paper, a piece of paper in all.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
This he men, Bro, he brought us ain't any world
making me go bro.
Speaker 19 (01:04:15):
And at this point in the interview, he's literally in
tears as he's like, you know, he says that was
the first time where it hit him that he was
actually hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
The hardest thing for men to admit, just people in general,
is that somebody hurt their feelings. And it's very hard
for men to admit that. And he admitted it in
that interview, and he said he wants the conversation. He
clearly just wants the conversation. He wants to hear from
Gonna why Gonna did what he did. Yeah, I guarantee
you if they had that conversation, even though he said
in the interview, hell no, he wouldn't forgive him.
Speaker 18 (01:04:44):
I bet you he would forgive him.
Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
And because I think when I listened to this conversation,
I feel like he's kind of already begin forgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
There's a point in the conversation where he's straight up
tells Bank, I hell know, Gun Big says, I know
you want to forgive.
Speaker 19 (01:04:57):
Gun and hell and he also he says he doesn't
want to talk to him, and then he says, I
want to hear what he has to say. So he's
going back and forth because obviously he still cares for him.
And my point is if you can get on some
platform and say you still care for this person, you've
already started thinking through why they did what they did,
and that's a part of moving toward forgiving somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
I think it's a different side. So I think it's
what he feels and what he thinks he's supposed to feel.
Right because the battle, because what Gunner said was when
he's supposed to Banks, he says, if he knew what
we have, no no, what gun Gunn was supposed to Banks.
He said that if he knew that, it would affect him,
because he asked would this effect Thug in any way?
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And they said no.
Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
But I think, my personal opinion, if Gunn knew it
would affect Thug like this, I don't think Gunnar would
have went that well. I don't think Gunna would have
did it because Gunnar Gunn. I don't think he did
it on purpose to hurt him. I think he was
just saying, look, this is what I'm saying. I'm not
pointing no fingers, I'm not saying nobody did anything. But
that's what Banks said, That's what twenty one said. They
all said that I don't feel like he did just
to hurt you.
Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
He was.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I think he was wrong, but I don't think his
intention was to hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I don't even know if he was wrong. I have
no idea, Okay, I just know that, you know, I
can understand what Thug is coming from.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
When he called the labeler gang and trying to say
it's not a gang.
Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
That's hurtful.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yes, all I'm saying is the harder thing for men
to say is, hey, man, you hurt my feelings, and
they can all have a conversation about it.
Speaker 11 (01:06:08):
Because Thug seemed very I can hate calling that man thug.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
The hardest thing for men to do is is to say, hey,
you hurt my feelings and he just felt a sense
of betrayal and they and they should just have the conversation.
But because he's very forgiving for everybody else, is he
seems to understand why everybody else did what they.
Speaker 18 (01:06:26):
Did, but even the people he think did wrong like that,
because he's saying thugs stutter up.
Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
But if the tables would turn and I'm in jail
and I'm locked up, and I'm trying to say that
my record label is not a gang, and my artist,
my second in command. Somebody I help says goes against
basically what I'm saying. It says it is I would
feel a way too well.
Speaker 19 (01:06:43):
In this conversation, you guys are talking about them possibly
moving on and sitting down and having a conversation. Big
Bank did a really good job of trying to direct
the conversation of where Thug needs to be. Now, so
let's listen to young Thug on in Bank on how
we move on?
Speaker 20 (01:06:57):
How do we stop giving about what goes on in
real street?
Speaker 22 (01:07:01):
Talk to you to some people were talking about this
to some people, Yeah, some people, but not where we're from.
Speaker 20 (01:07:06):
We uphold it ain't evenbody upholding. It's about manhood.
Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Bro.
Speaker 20 (01:07:10):
He meane of thus, like.
Speaker 26 (01:07:13):
A young girl is you're gonna look at it like man, God,
damn Biggs the whole nother place.
Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
No right is right?
Speaker 20 (01:07:19):
Wrong is wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
What you made?
Speaker 22 (01:07:21):
But y'all leading the game like you one of the
biggest in the game. Bro, you gotta kind of set
a president for the young that what we know? Bro,
this are you talking about come from trauma? You just said,
I say you was just a kid, didn't know nothing
until your brother got killed. Shut you up in front
of your fail like damn, then then murder came to
your mind. I don't care to talk about it because
we just move forward. I'm happy if I'm running around
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living my life, well, I think I'm happy. You don't
got everything you want with you ain't happen, brother, like
you passionate about this you're talking about brother, I'm out
the game, no.
Speaker 20 (01:07:49):
Scrape, no scars, but I ain't. I'm still banking, but
I'm something else.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
You know that that Elon Musk analogy that he used
didn't make any sense even though I understood it, because
the reality is, there is no honor amongst the streets.
Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
There is no morals in the streets with.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
The Elon must And what Elon Musk does is legitimate
as far as his business. So if he goes and
messes with a little girl, that's actually immoral. But what
he does and for full time isn't illegal. The streets
are all illegal, it's all out, it's all messed up.
So when a person you know, golden snitches or whatever,
there's no honor amongst.
Speaker 18 (01:08:24):
The streets, that's not how.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
I don't care just because you think it's right, noes
I mean, it is supposed to be a code when
you're in the streets, right, when you play the street games,
you play the street rules.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
That's the thing. You're not from the streets, so you
don't look at it, but you can't compare.
Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
But the way that they rock in the streets is
a certain way that a cold quote unquote that they
live by.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I don't live by that code. I am not a criminal.
I've never sold crack, I never wanted to.
Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
But if they are in those streets and they do
those things the street way, they they he looks at
a certain moral of a certain code, and if you
break that, they look at each other differently.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
You heard the scoring in the Frog story, right, Yeah,
this frog scorpion after frog for a ride across the
lake of the river or whatever the hell it was.
Frog said, okay, cool, just scuping out on the back
and then on they were halfway across the water to
scor a sun.
Speaker 11 (01:09:15):
Yes, and Frosty, why did you do that? Hell, you
expect from the streets people.
Speaker 18 (01:09:19):
See but this is right, this is cut it out.
Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
But you're looking for somebody that's not in the streets.
What I want to say is street people look at
street things differently. There's a moral, there is a cold.
There's certain leaks that they by. You won't understand what
out of this Bank said that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
We look at it and we listened to that interview,
and some of this stuff sounds ignorant. No, it sounds retarded. Okay, right,
that's how it sounds.
Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Sounds stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
Okay.
Speaker 19 (01:09:42):
Well, I'm glad that the aid and Ross stream that
Doug was going to do was canceled. I think that
he should take a break and just sit in what
is happening with the conversation he just had and.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
That would have been a pointless to the music, That
would have been a pointless conversation.
Speaker 11 (01:09:55):
Banks and Dog was great, had the perfect conversation.
Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Banks.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
There is no old body that could have done that
interview better than Banks.
Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
But you can't do that interview and say you want
to move on and things want to change. And then
you did the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
A couple of days after the interview, you put gonna
a rat, yaga rat?
Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
What are you rat?
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
That actually no better rat? Better rat? Because they said
that was that they dropped that was the same first Well, I.
Speaker 19 (01:10:17):
Mean, but I feel like his thought process after the interview,
the song had to be done. They were done around
the same.
Speaker 11 (01:10:23):
Time, so you gotta get they take this interview last week.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yea last week.
Speaker 18 (01:10:26):
But I thought you said they were supposed to drop
the song with the interview.
Speaker 11 (01:10:30):
I thought they did.
Speaker 18 (01:10:31):
They did, But Envy is.
Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Saying he did the song after they But basically I'm
saying he taped it last week and if he wanted
it over last week, he wouldn't put that song out.
It's probably it was probably the backlash and hear him
hearing himself what made him say, you know what I'm
done with this is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
That's on all the calls that's been released.
Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
And about do all that?
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I mean, I thought it was a phenomenal conversation. I
hope that this is the beginning of a healing journey
for Jeffrey.
Speaker 19 (01:10:55):
Yes, putting a button on it, I do as well.
Next hour, we are gonna have some conversations about, you know,
some men and some women who have been able to
move away from some things and now are being honored
because the twenty twenty five NBA Hall of Fame went
down over the weekend, and we are going to get
into all of that good stuff.
Speaker 18 (01:11:10):
Next hour.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
All right, Chearlamn, who are giving a downcy two?
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
You know I don't want a king shame. But there's
a man named elmont Ce Sarce. He needs to come
to the front of the congregation. He has a fetish
for feet, which and we can relate to because MV
once had a only fans paced just for his feet.
Speaker 18 (01:11:23):
They told me, tell you put it back live. I
told you that right there, was tweeting me have one.
Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
But good to continue on. We'll get to it next.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
You make sure you're telling them to watch out for Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
MIA's the craziest people in America come from the Bronx
and all of four.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yes, you are a donkey.
Speaker 24 (01:11:42):
The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.
Speaker 18 (01:11:46):
It gave him too much money.
Speaker 26 (01:11:47):
Florida man is arrested after w said he rigged the
door to his home in an attempt to electric hit
his pregnant lights.
Speaker 29 (01:11:52):
Police arrested in Orlando man.
Speaker 18 (01:11:54):
We're talking as from Mendo with the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Breakfast Club, bitch you donkey. Other day with Charlamagne to God,
I don't know why y'all keep it and he get.
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Y'all like this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It's not me, duvall, It's Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Okay, donkey Today for Monday, September eighth, goes to a
twenty eight year old man named el Moncey Cercy. Now
Elmnsy is from Florida, Ladies and gettlemen. And what does
your uncle Shalla always say about the great state of Florida?
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Say it with me.
Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and
all of Florida, and today is no exception. Now I
am a proud member of the Horror Hive. Drop on
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Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Because of them, I have learned over the years from them.
Speaker 29 (01:12:37):
Not the King Shank.
Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
We all have kinks, we all have things we enjoy
that turn us on sexually, so I strive, not the
King Shank. I mean every now and then you hear
stories like Diddy rubbing another man's creamy Coco Loso on
his nipples, and you judge, But then there are stories
like today el Moncey, Cercy and his lover feat see
el Moncey loves feet.
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
He loves feet so much.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Then on a first date, his very first date, he
asked his date to let him sniff her feet and
used sneakers. How would you feel about that, Laura and
the Rose. If a man after you on your first date,
can I sniff your feet? He'd be creep creep am
I king shaming for foot fetisters, though, even though some
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people have a foot fetter so bad that they think
the movie Happy Feet is a hardcore porintal Okay, men,
would foot fetishes really take the phrase I worshiped the
ground you walk on seriously because they will literally lick
the sidewalk. They will lick a floor if some bad
feet just walked across it. I know it sounds disgusting,
but it's true. And if you think I'm playing about
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the extremes, people like el Monci will go through to
sniff some feet or more so, what will happen if
he has denied access too said feet? Then let's go
to Local ten news for the report.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Police strange, bizarre and certainly something didn't smell right here.
This guy asked to smell your feet. Yes, he did.
Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
What did he say?
Speaker 31 (01:14:05):
Well, initially we had met up because I was going
to sell him my sneakers.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
She knew something didn't smell right when she met this
guy almanse Circil at an Aventur hotel.
Speaker 31 (01:14:18):
When I got there, he just wanted to sniff my feet,
and I didn't feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
So I have to stop you there. What do you
say when someone says I want to sniff your feet?
Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
No?
Speaker 31 (01:14:28):
No, I mean you could have my sneakers all you want.
I mean, I don't care. I'm not wearing them, and
you know they're just stinky old sneakers, but people like.
Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Weird thing, she says. The suspect runs out of the room.
Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
She thinks with her sneakers.
Speaker 18 (01:14:42):
I ran after him and I met him down in
the parking garage.
Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Cat she says, he ran her over with his car.
Speaker 31 (01:14:48):
He ran you over, he ran me over, and by
the grace of God, I'm still standing today.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
This man ran over a woman with his SUV on
their first state after she refused to let him sniff
her feet and use sneakers. As soon as he met
the victim, he immediately asked to smell her feet and
purchase her used sneakers. Now, the victim said, when she
got there, he just wanted to sniff feet, okay, and
she didn't feel comfortable with that. You think all right?
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Then she told him I will sell you my used
shoes for one thousand dollars. Now this wasn't in the
news report. But mind you, she is a foot model, okay,
her an MV has something in common view or a
foot model.
Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
At one point, you had only fans with your feet,
Yes you did. I didn't run that or control.
Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
It or put that up.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Sure, slot suthe binns. So that high price system granted.
So that high price is her going rate. Okay, So
she charges one thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (01:15:42):
For that, So she's not really he's not really wrong
for wanting.
Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
To sniff her feet or see her feet, because she
clearly leads feet first. But what I don't understand is
if you can't afford to pay, or she doesn't want
to give you a free sniff, why you gotta get
in your suv and run her over?
Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Am I missing something? I really would like to know?
Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
What is it about toes that would make a man
act like this, And how do you feel about feet
that don't work? For example, a woman in a wheelchair
paraplegic toes don't work, but they look amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Some donkey in the days just sell themselves. I don't
know why I thought that, Please get a machi sirc
the biggest he huh?
Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I don't know what I was thinking about that this
morning when I was thinking about this story, I'm like.
Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
Why do they feel about feet that don't work?
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Well?
Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
They probably like I mean, they don't get.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
They gotta get sweat, right, do they get sweat?
Speaker 18 (01:16:42):
I don't know they get sweating?
Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Like, what about the still get hot? The toes that
make somebody act like this?
Speaker 18 (01:16:50):
Sneakis This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
I don't know why am I thinking about this on
a Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
And why would he run her over just because he
couldn't get a sniff for of the feed?
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
That is true, that is true, but runner over?
Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
He was white?
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
No, let's play game, then, all right? Play game?
Speaker 11 (01:17:08):
Well, her eliminated one of the categories. I don't want
to please that want to play?
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
That would have played please shut up? Latino, no Asian,
no black? Okay, let's play.
Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
A game up.
Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Yes, what racy?
Speaker 13 (01:17:28):
Gosh?
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Won't you'll grow up?
Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
El Monsey, twenty eight years old from Florida ran over
a woman because the woman wouldn't let el Monty sniff
her feet.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Guess what racy is?
Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I was thinking white? I was going white, but you
said no. I said no to everything for the most part.
Speaker 18 (01:17:50):
Oh, I think I know.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Yes, I'm not saying black.
Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
No, what.
Speaker 18 (01:17:54):
He's brown? Is he he's on black? He's brown?
Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
You say an Indian? Yeah, we don't have a hell
was that?
Speaker 25 (01:18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
The we don't have a sound effect for that one is?
I told y'all I didn't want to play this game.
Y'all just want to know what he is?
Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yes, whatever this is? Okay? He's black?
Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Why did you say no? People say no? Y'all never
said black?
Speaker 18 (01:18:17):
I said black?
Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
You did?
Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Did you said brown?
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Said no?
Speaker 18 (01:18:21):
I said black before we started the Guess But it's okay.
Don't worry about it. I'm used to it. You don't
even hear me.
Speaker 29 (01:18:25):
All right, Thank you for that dog?
Speaker 12 (01:18:32):
What?
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
All right?
Speaker 18 (01:18:35):
Get your friend?
Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Thank you for that donky of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Now, let's open up the phone lines eight hundred five
eight five one O five one. I know y'all might
be young, thugged out, but I want to just open
up the phone lines, have a conversation right when someone
is in the streets meaning y'all are doing criminal activities,
y'all doing criminal activities together?
Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
You know you're doing criminal activities?
Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Should there be a code of the streaks when you're
doing criminal activity?
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I don't want to talk to none of y'all eight
hundred five five. Tell me y'all in the street. I'm
calling your industry.
Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Should you follow street rules? Meaning you don't you get caught?
Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Y'all are doing criminal activity, and y'all know y'all doing
criminal activity.
Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
You get caught, your man dope? Should you be There's
got to be something that was like one of the
biggest things.
Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Why can't we have the conversation about, you know, how
men don't know how to communicate when their feelings are hurt.
Speaker 11 (01:19:27):
How come we can't have the conversation about how?
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
When? When? When?
Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
When the hardest thing for a man to do is
just say, hey, you hurt my feeling.
Speaker 19 (01:19:34):
I think two things can be true, because I feel
none about no, no, no, not that you care, but
I'm just saying I feel like the battle that NB
is referring to, where it's like, do I still live
by this code? And what you're referring to is men
feel like they can't open up and just release what
they've been through.
Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Said it in the interview with numerous times until he
just started having this conversation. He said, people have told
him straight up, you just your feelings are just hurt.
Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
The feelings were hurt because he lived by a code
and this man did not live by the same code.
Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
But that cold sucks because there's no honor amongst these
no honor amongst criminals.
Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
It does, but it's easy for you, it's easy for me.
It's easy for Lauren to say.
Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
But if somebody's running an activity that might not be legal,
there's certain codes that they live.
Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
How was there a cold?
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Is something when there's only three ways that people end
up in those situations jail dead are labeled a rat
and that.
Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
And a lot of these and a lot of these
people live by that cold because that's the way that
they are.
Speaker 11 (01:20:30):
It's not the The industry stinks. Y'all need a union.
Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
I mean, the whole thing is need a union selling
drug stink you know what I mean, doing a lot
of stuff that people do that people idolized, stink.
Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
But let's discuss if you're just joining us.
Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
This conversation comes out of Young Thug's interview with Big
Banks and everything that's going out with going on with
a young Thug, and the question is eight hundred and
five eighty five one oh five to one, uh, if
your industry should you follow a street code.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Let's listen to just some of the things that Thug
was saying during that interview.
Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
So you've been here, yeah, and.
Speaker 26 (01:21:01):
That's what That's another thing I don't even want to do.
That's why I don't even respect the phone calls coming out,
because all they do is make me think about when
I was in jail going through fight, my fight for
my life. All they do is make my girl think
about the old long gas conversations on the phone.
Speaker 20 (01:21:13):
On the phone, we're praying and we're doing.
Speaker 26 (01:21:15):
And hoping that I can get away from it and
come out of this just like a fun, fun moment
of means on the internet and trying to just like
tounge my my existence but not knowing like but it
traumatizing the here. They damn make me remember when I
was in jail. They make me remember those dark ass
days and moments I had bro it make my girl cry.
She ain't even tripping about what we're saying on the phone.
We said whatever I say, I say twice. I'm a
grown man, so I ain't tripping on that part. I'm
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tripping on just like the world not knowing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
Eight hundred five, eight five, one oh five. When I'll
ask you, Lauren, what are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 20 (01:21:44):
What was the question again?
Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Okay, never mind, I just don't want to.
Speaker 19 (01:21:48):
I just I really feel like Doug should be at
the point where this is not his conversation. He is
super rich, super famous, and what age do you tap
out of all that? Even if that's how you were brought.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Up, that's a different conversation, right, because out the streets.
You should be out the streets, right. But I do
feel like there has to be some type of moral
and I know it's moral and cold, which is you're
saying the thieves, so it shouldn't be they're doing things
against you want.
Speaker 11 (01:22:10):
Them to have a moral code for immoral actions.
Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
There was always a moral code when people did street things.
Shot it back at the mobsters. The mobsters had a
street colde.
Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
There were certain laws and things that the illegal life
studied that.
Speaker 18 (01:22:24):
Kids and women should be off limits because that's that's
a street code too.
Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Yes, yes, but nobody your binds by that. Like, yeah,
there is no real cold The colde is lip service.
It's something people say that sounds good, but they don't
actually live by None of them do.
Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
But the point is, it never have.
Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
But the point is, and by the way, if there's
such a code, where's the reward for those that keep
it real? Well, the reward for those who don't snitch,
who don't tell, who do everything right?
Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
I don't see no reward for them.
Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
Ain't.
Speaker 11 (01:22:53):
No, they don't build no statues and no streeting.
Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
No, no, it's never but you don't because it's a
legal activity.
Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
But there was a well, there was more of a
moral and more of a cold right.
Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
When I was growing up in New York, there was
a moral and cold gangsters messed with gangsters. They fought
other people. If there was a problem in the club,
they would tell people, Hey, I need you'all to get
out of there. They would not mess with with kids
and wives and mothers. There was a certain code that
people stood by. You did not snitch because you did
the illegal activity, and if you did, you look down upon.
What's happened in Atlanta is crazy because all those individuals
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society to do illegal activity.
Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I'm of the biggest rats in the world have come
from New York. Okay, And once again, once again, when
I say, I'll say this one more time, there's rats everywhere.
There is no moral cold for immoral activity. Okay, Like
it's just not like like we can we can we
can lie to each other and act like it is.
But that's a contradiction.
Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
It is a moral cold for illegal activity.
Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
But there was always a thing like if me and
you do something against the law and I get caught,
if I pointed at you and you had and you
weren't getting caught, they didn't even know who you were,
it would look down.
Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
That's what it was. I'm with you and you all
that stuff sounds good, guys, but that has not been
the case. You end up in jail, Dad, are labeled
to rap And I don't even know why we're having
this conversation. I'm forty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I don't care, y'all.
Speaker 18 (01:24:14):
Y'all heard what Duck said when Big Bank said he
was forty seven, he was like.
Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Dad, for I'm saying. I was like, hello, who's this?
Speaker 25 (01:24:22):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (01:24:22):
This is kind of called some North New Jersey and co.
Speaker 13 (01:24:27):
New Jerseys.
Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
What's up, mama?
Speaker 21 (01:24:31):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 15 (01:24:31):
It's so good to be on the Breakfast Club. I
love you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
What's your thoughts?
Speaker 13 (01:24:34):
Listen?
Speaker 15 (01:24:35):
I feel like, what's the point of becoming a millionaire
to live by street code? Like they become rappers and
artists to get away from that life, and then they
want to still live and die by the same cod
It doesn't make sense. We're watching people because we like
them as entertainers, as and as artists. We don't care
by no street code.
Speaker 13 (01:24:53):
We civilians.
Speaker 15 (01:24:54):
We just want to see them rap, make good music,
class and that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
But the sad thing is a lot of times we
idolize these people because who they think.
Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
We think they are.
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
You look at these kids, idolize some of these rappers
because these rappers appeared to be gangster. They are pay
to be street, they're pair to be hood, and these
kids idolize that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
You see it all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
With drill music, shy time music, all like these kids
idolize a lot of these people, which is a sad thing.
Speaker 15 (01:25:20):
But I agree, I agree, but it's like after a
certain point, you got to leave that.
Speaker 13 (01:25:24):
Life behind you.
Speaker 29 (01:25:25):
You're right, you know he's not a new rapper.
Speaker 15 (01:25:27):
He didn't just drop like that's been out. He been
rich behind you.
Speaker 7 (01:25:32):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Hello, who's this.
Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
What I'm taking us off of Bluetooth? Please a speaker?
Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I got you?
Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
How old are you?
Speaker 13 (01:25:42):
Chris?
Speaker 21 (01:25:44):
Thirty four?
Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Thirty four? Okay? Talk to us about street court. What's
your thoughts?
Speaker 17 (01:25:48):
You you got? You got? If y'all both feel something illegal,
then should say the rule. Like you know, we go down,
we go down together. If not, you shouldn't be doing
nothing at all.
Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:26:02):
Hey, I the screech is some bs. Y'all need to
go learn the trade.
Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Okay, go learn how to do some age vac okay,
some some some electrician being electrician a welder.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
And I hate to see when when people are hustling
at all, and especially when they're hustling in their older age,
because like you said, there's only a couple of ways
to get out of it.
Speaker 11 (01:26:25):
Jail, dad, are you end up labeled a rat?
Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
In my forty seven years of existence, I haven't seen
no other no other options. And when when people do
hold it down, especially in black community, black community don't
get no rewards for keeping it real? Okay, nothing whatsoever.
Y'all need to get a party when y'all come home.
Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Most of the time. Hello, who's this Timmy still Water?
Many Timmy still Water? Talk to us? What's going on?
Speaker 25 (01:26:51):
Bro?
Speaker 13 (01:26:52):
Man, I'm listening to your station every morning.
Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Man, Thank you, sir. We appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
Man.
Speaker 13 (01:26:58):
So you know when you got to the street, bro,
like literally you know, already being to prison.
Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
It's stuff.
Speaker 13 (01:27:05):
And I did tell for guys, and I kept my
mouth shut literally and I'm out. I'm being free for years.
But still it's always Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:27:14):
What was the reward for you keeping it real? And
and and you know, keeping your mouth.
Speaker 17 (01:27:17):
Shut, keeping it real. I'm still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Oh okay, there's no you don't get no pension. There's
no pension for keeping it real? Like nothing, no, nothing, no, man, it.
Speaker 17 (01:27:27):
Is it depends make us. Like I say, man, I mean,
it's like mafia.
Speaker 13 (01:27:32):
You know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
You know, if you're doing things out here and people
know your family and stuff like that, and you're doing
crazy stuff, bro like that stuff could could have venture
off into you.
Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Know, off of your family.
Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Those mafia guys take care of theirs though. Like when
a person when a person you know, keeps their mouth
closed and goes and does their time, they know that
they mama straight.
Speaker 11 (01:27:52):
They know that they family straight.
Speaker 17 (01:27:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Now you're absolutely if you're just joining us, we open
up the phone lines eight hundred and five eight one.
Now this conversation comes from the young thug situation, and
he recently did an interview with Banks. Amazing interview, by
the way, And we're asking eight hundred and five eighty five,
one oh five one. We're talking street code. If you
are doing illegal activity, is there a code? Is there
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a code in the streets?
Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
We do.
Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
We do know where the term there is no honor
amongst thieves. We know where that proverb comes from. Right,
is when people are engaged and dishonest in moral activities
like drug dealing, like stealing.
Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Murder, whatever. It is point you to say, they don't
ask that, right.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
They're already they're already untrustworthy, and you will betray each
other due to your own self interest, greed, or desire
for power. So I don't understand why you have a
moral code for moral activities.
Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
We have call on the line calling good morning, Good
morning everybody, Good morning caller, talk to us. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 21 (01:28:50):
Listen about street code. Ain't no street code with stupid people.
My daddy way not to get caught is to do
it by yourself, because it's always gonna be one or
two stupid people talking about something they did, and everybody
gonna get caught. So you got to think about who
you're doing it with first of all, because I'm not
taking a blame for nobody, nobody.
Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
You're right, thank you, mama. Hello, who's this? It's dumb
don what's up to talk to us?
Speaker 17 (01:29:17):
So my thing is right, How do you expect somebody
that lives their life breaking along to follow some rooms?
Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Now that it's that simple, it don't make no sense.
All right, they're a criminal, that's it right, that's but
it don't make sense to you. It don't make sense
to me. It don't make sense to you.
Speaker 11 (01:29:37):
It don't make sense period.
Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
And not committing crimes, but for people that commit crimes
that do a legal activity. They have a different way
of looking at they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
They think they do.
Speaker 11 (01:29:46):
But the reality is when you look at all the
different examples we have, it is what it is like.
Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
There is no honor amongst these.
Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
There cannot be a moral cold for emral activity.
Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Crystal, Good morning, Good morning. Talk to us, Crystal, what's
your thoughts.
Speaker 15 (01:29:59):
I think that as a black woman, black men need
a new code. I love what Charlemagne is saying as
black men.
Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
I love how we are.
Speaker 15 (01:30:07):
Having these conversations because we need to start healing our communities.
And in order to hear our communities, we need to
heal our families. In order to put together our families,
we need to heal the black man. And we have
the streets in our DNA, you know, So now we're
starting to evolve. I feel like as a race, consciously,
that's why we have so much mental stress, because I
(01:30:27):
feel like melanated people hold the key to humanity in
our soul. So I love it. Let's keep talking. Let's
keep talking real because a lot of people have bad advice.
So when you have these podcasts, let's keep it one
hundred and let's keep having these conversations. So that's how
I feel. And just to say, I'm a screenwriter. I
(01:30:50):
wrote my own TV series about the mental health of
black people. Charlatm Magne. I've been wanting to talk to
you so long about it. But yeah, so that's my answer.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
You should come up.
Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I should come to new on October eleventh from my
fifth Manuel Mental WEALTHEX Ball from eleven am to four pm.
Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
It's a free event, you know, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Want everybody to get these get these services and these
resources for free, and this information for free. So it's
gonna be October eleventh, from eleven am to four pm
at the New Jersey Institute of Technology, the Joel and
Diane Bloom Wellness and even Center in Newark, New Jersey.
Speaker 15 (01:31:22):
Oh, I'm definitely gonna come. I'm gonna get a babysit
there and come because I feel like it's very important
for us.
Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Yeah, it's a free event, man, everybody is welcome from
eleven am to four pm. And that's the biggest takeaway
from Banks and Thugs interview that I want people to get.
Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Banks is the only person who could have had that convo.
Speaker 11 (01:31:39):
Banks. God preordained you for a time like this.
Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
He's the only person that could have had that convo
because number one, he's from Atlanta, he speaks the language,
he's from the screets.
Speaker 11 (01:31:47):
But he's done the work on himself.
Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
He's done the work on himself.
Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
That's why there was a level of empathy as well
as accountability in that interview that he was having with
thug Man. When he told thugs like, you didn't humble
your man. I know you were in there praying, but
you didn't come home humble. You ain't learned nothing while.
Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
You was in there. He was like, you know, what,
what does healing look like for you?
Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
I'm listening to you and you hurt man. That was
a very powerful conversation man for that reason. So that's
the biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
I want folks to realize from that that Banks and
thug and if you healing as possible, and I hope
that thug, you know, really gets on his healing journey
and let some of that hurt go.
Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
That's right, all right, Well, we got the latest Lauren
coming up. What we're talking about we do.
Speaker 18 (01:32:28):
We're going to get into the VMAs summer.
Speaker 19 (01:32:31):
Walker got a new bay, the NBA Hall of Fame
twenty five Hall of Fame ceremony as well.
Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
We'll talk about all right, we'll get to that Nextus
to Breakfast slug of Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Everybody is dj NV just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Let's get to the latest with Lawrence.
Speaker 20 (01:32:50):
Lauren, You're coming a straight fast man.
Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
She gets some from somebody that knows, somebody get detail.
Speaker 18 (01:32:57):
I'm the long girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
She'd be having the latest on you, the last, the
latest with Laura la Rosa.
Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Sometimes you have sack, sometimes you have details, sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
You have a little bit every time, the latest on
the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 19 (01:33:12):
The twenty twenty five NBA Hall of Fame ceremony went
down over the weekend, and you know, this is being
called one of the most decorated classes in the basketball
Hall of Fame history. So they honored or inducted Carmelo Anthony,
Dwight Howard, Sue Byrd, Maya Moore, Sylvia Fowls, Billy Donakan,
who is the Chicago former Chicago Bills coach, Danny Crawford,
(01:33:36):
former NBA ref Mickey Earrison, who is a Miami Heat
managing general partner. And then they also honored the two
thousand and eight US Olympic basketball team. So there were
a bunch of speeches that went down. Of course, now
one of the speeches, well, let's start up with Dwight Howard.
Shaq was also on the stage when Dwight Howard gave
his speech. Show it was good to see them two together.
Let's take a listen to Dwight Howard, Stan Van Gundy.
Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
I don't know if you're here. Is it there you go?
Speaker 12 (01:34:02):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (01:34:02):
Man?
Speaker 20 (01:34:04):
I know I gotta do it later, but.
Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Hey, Stan, I just want to say because of you,
I am in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
And as I said before, there is no Dawhite Howard
without standing there in Gundy.
Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
You taught me what it means to stay ready. I
still remember in the playoffs you had us doing place
for guys that never even got in the game. And
I remember you saying, listen, you never know, you never know,
I mean listen, but you was right. Stand in basketball
and in life, you gotta stay ready. Y'all look crazy?
(01:34:41):
All right, that's the last one staying up.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
There's something about NBA Hall of Fame ceremonies that are
just better than every other sports league. Like I love
watching the NBA Hall of Fame speeches.
Speaker 19 (01:34:53):
Is it because well, never mind, I'm gonna say I
was gonna say, because I feel like the NBA players
are like bigger celebrities.
Speaker 18 (01:35:00):
Their journeys are bigger at Goldmore.
Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Ye, absolutely, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Like maybe it's still emotional investment we have in the
NBA because, like you said, like you know, you usually
see these guys in high school and we seem in
college and we see him in the NBA and you're
talking about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years of just watching different
people try to overcome, you know, different struggles in the league.
Speaker 21 (01:35:20):
There.
Speaker 19 (01:35:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well, when you're talking about overcoming struggles, Carmelo
Anthony gave a very emotional, credible, very incredible speech. I
take a listen to Carmelo Anthony, to every.
Speaker 25 (01:35:29):
Father, you are more than your mistakes. You are more
than what this world has to reduce you to. Being present,
being real, being vulnerable.
Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
That's strength.
Speaker 25 (01:35:39):
Raising children in this world is revolutionary. I didn't just
want to be a basketball player. I wanted to be
a model of redemption, of accountability, of love.
Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
My kids saved me.
Speaker 25 (01:35:51):
They gave me a reason to move past ego, past noise,
past criticism.
Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
They reminded me.
Speaker 25 (01:35:56):
That legacy isn't what you leave behind, that's what you
lift up to Mama. Love to my mother, Mary Anthony,
you taught me that love is action, that sacrifice is quiet,
that faith that is louder than fear. My mother was
the first one that showed me what sacrifice looks like.
No spotlight, no praise, just love and its purest form.
(01:36:17):
You're the reason I'm standing here, man, The sacrifice that
you made, the tears you held back, the shrift you show.
I felt it every time I laced out my sneakers.
Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
You all my hero.
Speaker 18 (01:36:29):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Carmelo anthony speech was incredible, driving the clues Boss from
Carmelo Anthony. But the thing I liked about Carmelo's speech
especially he talked about everyone along his way who shaped
him as a person, who shaped him as a player.
He even spoke on his you know father who passed
away when he was to everybody who helped him along
his journey, who inspired him.
Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
I was waiting for him to speak on lou loud,
though he.
Speaker 19 (01:36:53):
Didn't say her name specifically, but he did say to
he mentioned the mother women women in his life and
mother mother.
Speaker 11 (01:36:59):
Of his kids and comids.
Speaker 19 (01:37:01):
Well, he said to the mothers of the kids, like
basically the women who have to come in and like
help raise the kids while you're doing your thing.
Speaker 18 (01:37:07):
Is what I got from it. But he did not
say her name specifically, and she was not there.
Speaker 17 (01:37:11):
Why.
Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
I know she's filming her group chat show.
Speaker 19 (01:37:14):
Yeah, I will say, and maybe this is me and
a pop this is me in a pop culture since
I thought she would be there, even though I know
that you know they've gone through there like divorce or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
But she always supported him.
Speaker 12 (01:37:25):
She was career.
Speaker 19 (01:37:28):
I tuned into him via her, and you know she
was always on the sidelines and bringing Kanye into the
games and all that.
Speaker 11 (01:37:34):
So I thought I was That's why I had to
watch the speech twice and I thought I was like
with them.
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Maybe I missed it because I just expected him to.
Speaker 18 (01:37:40):
I'll get the exact words for you.
Speaker 29 (01:37:41):
But he did mention it, but vain.
Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Yeah, and he spoke about you know, the Knicks as well,
which was surprising because the Knicks did him dirty. Yeah,
but he did talk about the Knicks and him playing
for I think they did his last couple of years,
though they did Mellow dirty, didn't put Mellow where he
should be in my opinion, I mean, I'm realm what. Yeah,
they did have bad teas, but everything was on Mellow.
(01:38:05):
The reason they lost. They blamed it on Melo. Everything
was blamed on Mellow when he was in New York.
You mean okay, so they surround him with the right players, correct,
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 18 (01:38:13):
Well that real quick.
Speaker 19 (01:38:14):
I wanted to get to the VMA's so that was
amazing as well. But also here here in New York
yesterday the VMA's went down and there was some legends honored.
Mariah Carey received the Michael Jackson Vanguard Award Buster Rhymes
and that was her first.
Speaker 18 (01:38:29):
VMA, which I thought was crazy. Ryan Carrey, yes, she
received a VMA.
Speaker 19 (01:38:35):
Bust of Rhymes, received the first ever Rock the Bells
Visionary Award, and he said it took them thirty five
years for him to get a trophy, which I also
thought was crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
As well as Transcty for his videos and what he's
done videos revolutionized videos.
Speaker 19 (01:38:47):
Absolutely, yes, but I just wanted to show them some love.
I don't know, if we have time to plan any speeches,
let's take a listen to Buster rhymes.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Oh thank you for being my hero, one of my
greatest inspirations, the reason I vote my first round. That
love cool j y'ah know. I usually do these long speeches.
I'm not gonna do one today, but next time, y'all
take thirty five years to give me one of these.
They're gonna let me talk as long as I want,
but let me get straight to it. Seeer, I love you, Yo, Gotti,
salute Mona Scott Young. Thank you for being the mother
(01:39:15):
in my career. I want to thank my mother. I
want to thank my father, rested peace, Dad, whole places
due to the most hot God is the greatest.
Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
I want to thank my beautiful children.
Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
I want to thank DJ Scratch and I think we
all need to acknowledge the incredible woman that loved us
very much when we came to MTV. She loved the culture.
She lifted us up, the late great Annanda Lewis. I
want to big up her mother, her father, her sister
lux Me. I want to big up marm At Brito.
Thank y'all so much.
Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Man want to cluse bombs for Buster to buster any
did they do anything for Nando at all?
Speaker 18 (01:39:49):
Not, No, they did not. That was what we got.
Speaker 19 (01:39:51):
That was in tribute to her, And there were a
lot of people that were upset. They felt like there
should have been more of a tribute to Ananda during
the ceremony. So it was, you know, great that bust
the rhymes took the time for her because we didn't
see it anywhere else. Now as we wrap up, I
just want to mention some people that hit the carpet.
We saw Glorilla Gunna also hit the carpet. You also
debut the under Armour commercial and he had a whole
commercial during the VMA's. But Summer Walker hit the carpet
(01:40:13):
with a new boo. It's this older white gentleman. She
was feeding him on the carpet.
Speaker 18 (01:40:18):
There was like a They even.
Speaker 16 (01:40:19):
Kissed each other, yes, And I thought, I'm like, oh,
y'all while and now that y'all think doctor Umar down man,
y'all would have never done that. No, because the school
going through the trouble, you could just do that because
having a little down fly right now say, I am
totally against it. She got a song called f my type,
So I thought this was just like you know a
(01:40:39):
little promo for the song. Yeah, so I hit you
know a little source close and I'm like, is this
a joke or is this real? And they're like, no,
she's really this is her date. She's really dating him.
She's having fun exploring new options. They met to a
mutual friend a few weeks ago. But she's going for
Sugar Daddy from here on out. She's done with her type.
Speaker 18 (01:40:56):
That is what I was told.
Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
She's happy.
Speaker 7 (01:40:57):
She's happy.
Speaker 11 (01:40:59):
God bless and who we are getting away of her
getting worms?
Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
All right, Well that is the latest with Lauren. Maybe
maybe should end up in the wheel.
Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Okay, all right, all right, people's choice mixes up. Next,
it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Good morning, you're checking out the Breakfast Club. Everybody is
j envy.
Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Just so Larry and Charlamagney, God, we are the Breakfast Club.
Salute to Lorenz tape Man. Lorenz Tate turns fifty today,
So happy birthday to.
Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
The bro Lorenz tape Man. You like three years away,
That's what I'm saying. But Lorenz look amazing for fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Brothers man, I will take care of myself and Slim Thugs,
Sloop the s Doug a thugg Doug.
Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Doug gotta be maybe that's a good question. Probably forty seven,
forty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Let's see, let's let's check right fast. Slim Doug is
forty five. Okay, some Doug is forty five, So slout
the slim thug out of y'all.
Speaker 19 (01:41:51):
Y'all getting up there, y'all, Well, moisture, you'd be sleeping
even after your gigs. Envy Charlemagne. You ain't growing no more,
but you still have big tall man energy. I'm really
prout of you.
Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Yeah, I mean your hair has you know, like your
hair's not growing anymore, but it has the energy like.
Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
It's still flourished hair girls all the time. That's why
only this cat shakes.
Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Just a flat of mind, right.
Speaker 13 (01:42:18):
Right, a flat of.
Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Minds Lutor Ben Shapiro for joining us. He's the co
founder of the Daily Wire. He stopped through earlier this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Yes, he has a new book out called Lions and Scavengers,
The True Story of America. So it's an interesting read.
Whether you agree or disagree with Ben Shapiro's opinions, it
is an interesting read.
Speaker 7 (01:42:36):
That's right.
Speaker 19 (01:42:37):
Delaware State University. I will be there tomorrow, Tuesday, September tenth.
I'll be on campus because I am the keynote speaker
at the convocation ceremony, which is so fire like.
Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
That is the Ceremonyla, thank you.
Speaker 19 (01:42:49):
That's a ceremony that welcomes the entire student body to
a successful year, and it sets the tone and motivates
the students to you know, doing the things they need
to do to get through their years. So I am
so honored to have been asked to come. You graduated, Yes,
I graduated.
Speaker 18 (01:43:03):
Don't play with me. I was there on a full
academic scholarship for most of my time. Yes, so don't
play with me.
Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (01:43:08):
So I'll be on campus. I'll also be broadcasting tomorrow.
I'll be doing the show from Delaware State University.
Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Yep.
Speaker 19 (01:43:14):
So I'll see you guys at the commocation ceremony. And yeah,
congratulations to the new class coming in making their marks
on the world.
Speaker 18 (01:43:21):
The best HBC in the world. Envy Charlamane. You ain't
graduate from North.
Speaker 11 (01:43:25):
To South Carolina State University.
Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
You know what I'm saying. It don't matter.
Speaker 11 (01:43:28):
My mother, Lama mad that's Southclona State.
Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Close to see that noise and I have an endowment
scholarship at Chalklina State University. I give out scholarships every
year to South Carolina State University. They played the University
of South Carolina this weekend, which is very interesting. Me
and my wife are down there for the game. So
my wife is the alumni of the University of South Carolina.
But she also was a cheerleader, so you know, we're
a game cock household. But then they're playing South Carolina State.
That's my mom is alma mater.
Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
That's you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I got an honorary degree from there. So I was
just rooting for South Carolina this week. Yes, that chicken
spot you was down to go to. Oh yes, I
did up on the clues bomb for Banad. That backyard
dining experience. He ain't even fried chicken though, he fried fish.
Let me tell you something, if you get an opportunity
to go to Bernard and experience his backyard dining experience
to do it, that was That was like top two
(01:44:16):
fried pieces of fish I ever had in my life.
And I come from a fried fish family. Now, my
my uncle has not a frozen good fish, my mother
not a frozen good fish. My daddy cowboy fries and
good fish. That man band and he only twenty five
years old. So, but the way he seasons it and
he has this like special hot honey sauce he puts
on it.
Speaker 31 (01:44:35):
It was.
Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
It was so crispy but yet tender to where you
biting into the bones you didn't even realize like the
bones were even kind of edible. And he fried a
croker and he fried red Snapper. Oh my god, dropping
the clues.
Speaker 11 (01:44:49):
Bomb of Banad.
Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
But Noad, yeah, man, the nod Banad hitting It looks
just as good as it does on Instagram.
Speaker 19 (01:44:55):
I was trying to find an article. Did you see
that You're the event that you did at the library?
It broke like an attendance record American, Yes, it broken.
I got an alert for you. Broken attendance record.
Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
I heard about that.
Speaker 18 (01:45:06):
Yeah, that was fired. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Yes everybody, yes, Loue, everybody who attended the International African
American Museum with myself and Black Effects sponsored it.
Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
On Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
I think they said that like two thousand plus people,
so that that's an amazing thing.
Speaker 10 (01:45:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
But you got a positive note, Yes, a positive note
is simply this and it comes from the Banks and
Thugs conversation because I keep telling y'all, man, the hardest
thing for men to do is just express that somebody
hurt your feelings. I just feel like that comes from trauma.
And I want y'all to know that trauma is a
fact of life, but it does not, however, have to
be a life sentence. And I also want y'all to know,
(01:45:38):
for everybody getting on their healing journeary healing journey, recovery.
Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Recovery is a process.
Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Okay, it takes time, it takes patience, and it's gonna
take everything you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
So I wish you all well on your healing journeys.
Speaker 11 (01:45:51):
We'll see you tomorrow Breakfast Club.
Speaker 20 (01:45:53):
You don't finish, or y'all done.
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