The VMAs were hot and Loren covered all of it! From the Mariah, and Busta to Gunna and Doja as well as touching on all of the other amazing performances and speeches! And the things that were missing — like an RIP tribute to Forman MTV Host Ananda Lewis
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Gee, I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with
Laura de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives, and all of the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now today, y'all know, I love it when we have
some things that intertwine it between all of them. So
today we're gonna be getting into like some pop culture things,
entertainment news. But I believe that you know the conversations
we're gonna have here, we'll shake the room a bit.
I probably will hear from you guys online, my lowriders.
You guys know I love to hear from you. So
make sure you get in the streets and in the
(00:44):
tweets if you have something you want to say, you're responsible.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We about to be talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So the twenty twenty five VIAM Awards Video Music Awards
went down here in New York. Starts study night as
it always is. I mean, pulling up on the carpet,
you had Sierra Doja. Can those you can actually had
a moment on the carpet because she ate her lipstick
and people are still trying to figure out how, but
she looked good. You had Summer Walker pulling up on
(01:08):
the red carpet with a new boo who is like
a sixty seventy year old white guy, she said, f
her type. She told us that a couple months ago,
and I've actually been told because I thought this was
a joke. I thought it was something to like promote
the song that she has, but I've actually been told
that they are actually dating. It's only been a few weeks,
but she's going sugar Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
From here on out.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
She is tired, okay, but we did hear some good
news on the carpet because Summer Walker told us that
the music is on the way.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Leaving the carpet and heading on into the awards, it
was a night. Y'all know that there's always, like when
you do VMA's or you know, whatever, the Grammys, there's
always some parts of the awards ceremony.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Where you're like, who the hell is this?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But the crazy thing about this year's awarded are I
feel like people were asking in the audience and online
who is this to the wrong people like y'all know
here the latest with a long the roads that we live.
We thrive all things black culture, hip hop, entertainment. But
I mean pop culture is my is my digest and
(02:13):
hip hop is a popular culture. But that means we
talk all things whenever it makes sense for us to do.
So yesterday when I was watching the VMA's, I was
just kind of like dumbfounded because I feel like whoever
feeled the seats, like the de seat feelers themselves, you
could tell them. People did not know who the hell
a Bust the Rhymes was, and it was it was
(02:35):
embarrassing to watch. So the night kicked off with you know,
opening performances. You had l cooj who was hosting the awards,
which is always like you know, seeing lo cooj anywhere
as always epic.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But you had lo cooj hosting the awards. It makes sense.
It's very New York.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They were, you know, paying tributes to some very memorable
names and hip hop and the music Mariah Carey Bust
the Rhymes, as I mentioned before, and Loo Cooj opens
the show. Now as opens the show Doja Cat. There's
like this like glitch and at first you really think Like,
when I was watching, I really thought something was wrong
with llokoj's broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But I'm like, yo, Ello been doing this for like
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
At this point, there's no way that a teleprompter is
going to stop him from like continuing a whole show,
because he literally stopped mid sentence. But there's a glitch
that comes on the screen and Doja Cat comes up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Let's take a listen. That's right, we're making history. So
let's get this party starlars right now. I want to
jojacat not to be rude, but I just like to interrupt.
Can everyone sit down? I wanted not in that dressed.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I've got something really special with my sleeve featuring me
and Kenny Gg.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
To sit back, relax, and turn the volume out to
full man.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So then after this, Doja Cat goes into full performance.
Now here's the beauty of like pop culture. When we
get to say, like hip hop is the popular culture,
I feel like there's not ever really a box of
things that you can put our artists into. Because you
have an artist like a Doja Cat who is extremely,
extremely what some people would consider pop and she did
(04:12):
a hell of a performance and displayed all of those
chops on that stage, but also you could put ciss
on her. People will argue that Doja Cat is top
female rapper as well too. So watching her last night,
I'm like, man, the way that the culture like you
know and hip hop and our artists are able to
fit mixed mingled mold and create the mold and have
(04:36):
been doing that for so long. Because I'm looking at
lokoj who was hosting the VMA's who is now there
are people who don't even know Lokouj as a rapper,
Like there are generations who don't understand Lokoj as the rapper.
They know him as an actor, but he's here and
he's hosted in vmma's. And then you have a Doja
Cat who there are people who do not have rap
conversations about Doja Cat. But you're looking at Dojacat on
(04:58):
the stage and she is giving sou pop star.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know that she is.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But the night carry is along and then we get
into the honoring of the artist. So Mariah Carey received
the Michael Jackson Vanguard Award, which is the prestigious award
of the night at the VMA's. Now she received this
award and she shared a few remarks. I'm gonna be honest,
and I think we have these conversations all the time
with these award ceremonies. I was disappointed at the VMA's
(05:25):
by the time this part hit because I learned that
Mariah Carey had never received a Video Music Award, neither
had Busta Rhymes. Which it's sad that I have to
explain why a Busta Rhymes not receiving a Video Music
Award ever in his career right, thirty plus years of
his career is insane.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But we'll get into it when we get there. But
let's say, listen to Mariah.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Carey, thank you so much MTV for giving me the
Vanguard Award. I can't believe I'm getting my first VMA tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I just have one question, what in the same hell
were you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm kidding, I love you, I'MDJA, I love you.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Oh You're so much. This is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Being here brings back amazing memories like when I presented
Ell cool Ja his Vandguard Award, or when Whitney Houston
and I opened the show where a foe standoff and
we were both like had our addresses and we were.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Like try it on men.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
It was a moment.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Music videos are my way.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of life now, Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
In the beginning of that clip, she's speaking to someone
and saying, I'm so proud of you. She was talking
to Ariana Grande because Ariana Grande presented her with the award,
which Ariana Grande had talked about on the carpet prior
to even getting in the venue. How excited she was
to see Mariah Carray. Everybody was excited, you know that
night it's Mariah Carey, Like everybody was excited. Riah Carey performed,
(06:58):
She did a bunch of her different hits.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I thought it was fire.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That she opened up with the Fantasy remix with Odib
because it was very New York, very hip hop, and
I think sometimes because you know, again we're talking about
the ability of hip hop artists and you know, R
and B artists to almost be like chameleions and like
broaden their wings and explain and expand. People have this
conversation about j Loo all the time, like what odd
(07:23):
or what nod does j Lo owe to the culture
because she began in a realm that was very hip hop,
But now j.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Lo is looked at as its huge pop culture.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Artist, but when you talk about Mariah Carey, the same
can be said, like there she is huge, Mariah Carey
is Mariah Carey.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
She is miss Christmas Song.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But when you think about her beginnings, Mariah Carey has
always been a fan of Rat Like always, some of
her biggest songs were inspired by like Wu Tang. I
believe it was the Wu Tang Cream. One of the
very first songs she did with Jermaine Duprie was inspired
by that song. But I thought it was fired that
she opened up with the Fantasy remix and she let
Odib's voice to be heard on that stage, you know,
(08:02):
recipes to him, because she she could have cut that
part out, But I think it's her paying tribute to
her roots here in New York, understanding where she came from.
She also did Honey. She also did It's like that,
y'all we Belong together. She did a whole ton of
the things, okay, and then after that, you know, show continues.
But the next big moment, in my opinion, you have
(08:23):
Bust the Rhymes, who does a whole metal lea songs.
He brings out patpoofs he brings out Gloverla and join
the Lucas. People were very surprised to see those two.
But he also gives a speech. In his speech, he
remembers Ananda Lewis, who was a huge MTV VJ, that
there was no mention of her from the pre show,
to the carpet to the entire show itself. And they
(08:46):
did a tribute to Ozzy Osbourne. So it's not like
they didn't want to do these tributes to, you know,
people who have recently passed. They did a whole tribute
to Ozzy Osbourne. There were a lot of people who
felt like there should have been a tribute for Ananda
because she was empty. Like she was the VJ, she
was the face she ushered in so many especially like
the music that was ours, the black music, that hip hop.
(09:08):
She fought for our music there, which is why Bust
the Rhymes took the time. Let's take a listen to
Bust the Rhymes.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Thank you, King Elle, thank you for being here, my hero,
one of my greatest inspirations, the reason I wrote my
first rhyme, Love Coach J. Y'all know I usually do
these long speeches. I'm not gonna do one today, but
next time, y'all take thirty five years to give me
(09:34):
one of these. Y'all gonna let me talk as long
as I want, but let me get straight to it.
See er, I love you, Yo, Gotti. Salute Mona Scott Young.
Thank you for being the mother of my career. I
want to thank my mother. I want to thank my father.
(09:54):
The rest of peace. Dad, what praise is due to
the most hot God is the greatest. I want to
thank my beauty with children.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I want to take a minute because so this is
what I've been trying to figure out. Right, he says,
the next time, you'll take thirty five years to give
me right. And when he said that, I'm watching the
show and I'm instantly like, wait, I know Buster Rhymes
ain't saying this is the first time. He then touched
a movement a VMA award. There's no bust the rhyme's career,
I mean, the music is epic. The career span of
(10:30):
his career is epic. The again we talk about the
the ability to move in shake. He's gone from music
to acting to like you know, all of that is epic.
But he is known for being the architect of the
music video for his era, there is no it's him,
and there's Missy Elliott, and then there's so many acts
to follow, Like we wouldn't have Luther Chris doing what
(10:52):
he did and move get out the way, we wouldn't
have look. People even talk about the babies music videos
and how over the top they are. We wouldn't have
those moments without bust the rhymes making it a normal
thing for you to really see all of the effects
and the big and the boldness of a music video.
So I'm like, I know he is not saying what
I think he is saying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Not only did I look it up, but I couldn't
because you know, Google gonna tell you anything. And now
I don't even be trusting Google AI anymore. Google AI
and staring me wrong a couple of times. But when
I looked it up, it gives you a breakdown from
nineteen ninety six all the way to two thousand and five,
And said, I saw nominated in nineteen ninety six for
Woo I Got you all in check. Then in nineteen
(11:35):
ninety eight put your hands where my eyes could see
he was nominated for Breakthrough Video, Best Male Video, Best
Rap Video, and then Best Choreography, and then in ninety nine,
What's it going to be featuring Janna Jackson, which is
like I can't even believe that I'm saying this out
of my mouth that these videos never won these awards.
He was nominated for Best hip Hop Video, Best Direction,
(11:58):
Best Special Effects is bust the rhymes, the special effects,
the art Direction, Best Art Direction, give me some more nominated,
Best Breakthrough Video. I can go on and on and
on and on nominated, and I didn't see one anywhere,
and I'm like, yo, this is no way, like Wikipedia
and Google have to be wrong. So I hit bus
Rhymes team and I said, hey, I'm watching the VMA's
(12:21):
right now, and bus Rhymes just said the next And
this is another thing too, He said the next time,
y'all take the thirty five years to you know, I'm
a talk as long as I want, because Bus Rhymes
does give his long motivational speeches whenever he's honored, and
that's been a thing over the last couple of years.
But it was very jokingly about it. Mariah Carey, it
was very jokingly about it. There are huge artists that
(12:42):
careers have literally changed the way people do things and
go about their music videos and their careers.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They hit me back and they say, oh no, Lauren,
You're one hundred percent correct. That was his first time
ever receiving an award on the VMMA stage. He is
not dominated, be never won before. This year in twenty
twenty five, he took home the first ever Rock the
Bells Visionary Award. And for those of you guys who
don't know what Rock the Bells is, that is a
it's an organization, but.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's also a whole music festival.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And you know, they have a platform as well across
digital radio created by l COOLJ. And the reason why
Rock the Bells is so special is because it was
created to make sure that things like what I'm talking
about don't happen. He is giving platform and continuing to
help artists who come from certain time periods and certain
errands be able to still work and get there just do.
(13:35):
He gives them percentages of his festival. He has helped create,
you know, radio shows for people like Rock Sanne, Rock Sanne,
like Roxanne Chatte like. He does amazing work with the platform.
I wouldn't be surprised if you know at this point
Lo COOLJ has so much pool when it comes to
VMA's and all the things that he fought for this
award himself, because I don't understand who over there at
(13:56):
MTV has never understood why Bust the Rhymes should be,
you know, deservant of a Video Music Award. But thank
god that somebody got smart and listening to a locuj
this year, because what in the hell are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
If Buster Rohn's they never got that award.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now, speaking of what the hell are we doing, We're
gonna take a little segue here because one of the
final moments, or not final moments, but the other big
moments of the evening was Gonna. I was surprised to
see the Video Music Awards throw Gonna so much.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, I'm a Gonna fan. I listened to his music.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I know, you know Last One, his album is doing
very very well right now, but they centered a lot
around him. So Gonna dropped an under armour commercial literally
online like a preview of it right before.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
The VMA's begin.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then Gonna walk the carpet of the VMA Awards. He
looked amazing. And then there was a halftime performance that
happened for the first time ever at the VMA's and
it was gonna and under armour. Now I say this
because I I think the timing is very timely for
the VMA's. But it's ironic that all of this young
(15:04):
Thug Gunna stuff is happening and I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Far out you plan, you know, a VMA award.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And something like what Gunna did, But a lot of
this stuff is pre taped too, so I don't know,
you know what the timeline was, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like, hmm, this is very timely.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Another way to get us talking about the VMA's, let's
take a listen to Gunna's halftime performance.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Time at the.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
VMA's is about to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But yeah, I thought that was really really timely.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I mean again, don't get me wrong, I know Gunna
is great music artists. I'm not saying the VMA's needed
the hype, but the way that they inserted themselves in
that conversation, because literally, young thug just sat down with
Bank out of Atlanta and talked about how Gunna says
literally nothing to speak his piece.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
On their whole situation and explain what he did.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And then the next time we see Gunna he's literally
saying absolutely nothing, acting like life is all good.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I mean, and it's been looking all good.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He just did the five K raise, he said, the
VMA's on the carpet with his girl looking good. He
got the under Armored partnership right on time for you know,
this whole mental health and mental and physical wellness branding
that he's been doing. He living life like it's golden
right now. But I just thought it was like very
ironic that the VMA's was kind of able to play
into that whole you know, and Gunna ain't saying nothing
(16:33):
conversation that we had been having because of the sit
down and interview, the exclusive interview that a thug had
just did with Bank for the Perspective show out of Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that was the VMA's, you know, some honorable mentions.
Kenny G performed.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
When Doja Kat performed, he was, you know, the music
accompanying her. Sabrina Carpenter performed as well. I actually love
Sabrina Carpenter, and I'm not like, like I don't really
get into all of the girls, Like I can't really
tell us Swift. I like her the business, but I
would never just like turn on her music. But I
actually like Sabrina Carpenter and when I watched her performances,
said that she's just so cute. I like, I like
(17:07):
to look at her lot on Ice, Spice came out
as well. You guys know, they have the new song
that they're promoting. We still don't even know how they
link back up because they like fake hated each other forever,
but they were on stage as well, playing into that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And this was the first year ever that the show
was on CBS.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
This was the first time ever, you guys know that
they just did that whole new merger with CBS and
sky Dance and all the things.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So good show overall.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I just, you know, I think that this show really
screamed and echoed just how amazing we are as like
black culture creators and entertainment, and just.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
How slow the world still is.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like I still cannot believe that this was the first
year that Buster Rhymes, mister video, the architect of the
music video storytelling. This is the first year that he
received a video music award. And it wasn't even I
mean it was a video music award. He got a
movement but technical it wasn't even for like a video.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It was for his whole career.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
No listen, I'm gonna just let it go because I
could go for a whole another hour. This has been
a latest with Lord of the Roads. I hope you
guys enjoyed the breakdown. If you watch the VMAs, if
you tuned in, you know, let me know how you
feel about it. I do think that it was a
huge miss for the VMA's not to at least show
a photo and take a moment in you know, the
the venue for Ananda Lewis. I also think just crazy
(18:26):
for all the artists like a Mariah Carey and a
Bust Rhymes. You I'm gonna say it's for the fifth
time to be able to get on a stage and
talk about what they have yet to receive up until
this point in twenty twenty five. These are artists who've
been around since before I was even freaking born.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was crazy as well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But I mean, maybe, look, do we appreciate the inclusion
in the finally of the moment, Like finally, thirty five
years later, Bust Rhimes is getting his just through on
that stage. Finally, all this time later, Mariah Carey can say, Hey,
I have a movement do we care to, you know,
give him the nod and say thank you, or do
y'all feel like it's a little bit too late. I
want to hear from you, guys. Make sure you go
(19:00):
and find me. I'm Lauren Lrosa everywhere l O r
e N l O r O s A. At the
end of the day, there's always so much to talk about,
and I tell my Lauraders, y'all could.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Be anywhere with anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Talking about it, but y'all choose to be right here
with me every single episode, and I appreciate you guys
for it. I will catch you in my next episode.
Gee, I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with
Laura de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives, and all of the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now today, y'all know, I love it when we have
some things that intertwine it between all of them. So
today we're gonna be getting into like some pop culture things,
entertainment news. But I believe that you know the conversations
we're gonna have here, we'll shake the room a bit.
I probably will hear from you guys online, my lowriders.
You guys know I love to hear from you. So
make sure you get in the streets and in the
(00:44):
tweets if you have something you want to say, you're responsible.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We about to be talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So the twenty twenty five VIAM Awards Video Music Awards
went down here in New York. Starts study night as
it always is. I mean, pulling up on the carpet,
you had Sierra Doja. Can those you can actually had
a moment on the carpet because she ate her lipstick
and people are still trying to figure out how, but
she looked good. You had Summer Walker pulling up on
(01:08):
the red carpet with a new boo who is like
a sixty seventy year old white guy, she said, f
her type. She told us that a couple months ago,
and I've actually been told because I thought this was
a joke. I thought it was something to like promote
the song that she has, but I've actually been told
that they are actually dating. It's only been a few weeks,
but she's going sugar Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
From here on out.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
She is tired, okay, but we did hear some good
news on the carpet because Summer Walker told us that
the music is on the way.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Leaving the carpet and heading on into the awards, it
was a night. Y'all know that there's always, like when
you do VMA's or you know, whatever, the Grammys, there's
always some parts of the awards ceremony.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Where you're like, who the hell is this?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But the crazy thing about this year's awarded are I
feel like people were asking in the audience and online
who is this to the wrong people like y'all know
here the latest with a long the roads that we live.
We thrive all things black culture, hip hop, entertainment. But
I mean pop culture is my is my digest and
(02:13):
hip hop is a popular culture. But that means we
talk all things whenever it makes sense for us to do.
So yesterday when I was watching the VMA's, I was
just kind of like dumbfounded because I feel like whoever
feeled the seats, like the de seat feelers themselves, you
could tell them. People did not know who the hell
a Bust the Rhymes was, and it was it was
(02:35):
embarrassing to watch. So the night kicked off with you know,
opening performances. You had l cooj who was hosting the awards,
which is always like you know, seeing lo cooj anywhere
as always epic.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But you had lo cooj hosting the awards. It makes sense.
It's very New York.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They were, you know, paying tributes to some very memorable
names and hip hop and the music Mariah Carey Bust
the Rhymes, as I mentioned before, and Loo Cooj opens
the show. Now as opens the show Doja Cat. There's
like this like glitch and at first you really think Like,
when I was watching, I really thought something was wrong
with llokoj's broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But I'm like, yo, Ello been doing this for like
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
At this point, there's no way that a teleprompter is
going to stop him from like continuing a whole show,
because he literally stopped mid sentence. But there's a glitch
that comes on the screen and Doja Cat comes up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Let's take a listen. That's right, we're making history. So
let's get this party starlars right now. I want to
jojacat not to be rude, but I just like to interrupt.
Can everyone sit down? I wanted not in that dressed.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I've got something really special with my sleeve featuring me
and Kenny Gg.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
To sit back, relax, and turn the volume out to
full man.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So then after this, Doja Cat goes into full performance.
Now here's the beauty of like pop culture. When we
get to say, like hip hop is the popular culture,
I feel like there's not ever really a box of
things that you can put our artists into. Because you
have an artist like a Doja Cat who is extremely,
extremely what some people would consider pop and she did
(04:12):
a hell of a performance and displayed all of those
chops on that stage, but also you could put ciss
on her. People will argue that Doja Cat is top
female rapper as well too. So watching her last night,
I'm like, man, the way that the culture like you
know and hip hop and our artists are able to
fit mixed mingled mold and create the mold and have
(04:36):
been doing that for so long. Because I'm looking at
lokoj who was hosting the VMA's who is now there
are people who don't even know Lokouj as a rapper,
Like there are generations who don't understand Lokoj as the rapper.
They know him as an actor, but he's here and
he's hosted in vmma's. And then you have a Doja
Cat who there are people who do not have rap
conversations about Doja Cat. But you're looking at Dojacat on
(04:58):
the stage and she is giving sou pop star.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know that she is.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But the night carry is along and then we get
into the honoring of the artist. So Mariah Carey received
the Michael Jackson Vanguard Award, which is the prestigious award
of the night at the VMA's. Now she received this
award and she shared a few remarks. I'm gonna be honest,
and I think we have these conversations all the time
with these award ceremonies. I was disappointed at the VMA's
(05:25):
by the time this part hit because I learned that
Mariah Carey had never received a Video Music Award, neither
had Busta Rhymes. Which it's sad that I have to
explain why a Busta Rhymes not receiving a Video Music
Award ever in his career right, thirty plus years of
his career is insane.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But we'll get into it when we get there. But
let's say, listen to Mariah.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Carey, thank you so much MTV for giving me the
Vanguard Award. I can't believe I'm getting my first VMA tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I just have one question, what in the same hell
were you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm kidding, I love you, I'MDJA, I love you.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Oh You're so much. This is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Being here brings back amazing memories like when I presented
Ell cool Ja his Vandguard Award, or when Whitney Houston
and I opened the show where a foe standoff and
we were both like had our addresses and we were.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Like try it on men.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
It was a moment.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Music videos are my way.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Of life now, Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
In the beginning of that clip, she's speaking to someone
and saying, I'm so proud of you. She was talking
to Ariana Grande because Ariana Grande presented her with the award,
which Ariana Grande had talked about on the carpet prior
to even getting in the venue. How excited she was
to see Mariah Carray. Everybody was excited, you know that
night it's Mariah Carey, Like everybody was excited. Riah Carey performed,
(06:58):
She did a bunch of her different hits.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I thought it was fire.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That she opened up with the Fantasy remix with Odib
because it was very New York, very hip hop, and
I think sometimes because you know, again we're talking about
the ability of hip hop artists and you know, R
and B artists to almost be like chameleions and like
broaden their wings and explain and expand. People have this
conversation about j Loo all the time, like what odd
(07:23):
or what nod does j Lo owe to the culture
because she began in a realm that was very hip hop,
But now j.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Lo is looked at as its huge pop culture.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Artist, but when you talk about Mariah Carey, the same
can be said, like there she is huge, Mariah Carey
is Mariah Carey.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
She is miss Christmas Song.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But when you think about her beginnings, Mariah Carey has
always been a fan of Rat Like always, some of
her biggest songs were inspired by like Wu Tang. I
believe it was the Wu Tang Cream. One of the
very first songs she did with Jermaine Duprie was inspired
by that song. But I thought it was fired that
she opened up with the Fantasy remix and she let
Odib's voice to be heard on that stage, you know,
(08:02):
recipes to him, because she she could have cut that
part out, But I think it's her paying tribute to
her roots here in New York, understanding where she came from.
She also did Honey. She also did It's like that,
y'all we Belong together. She did a whole ton of
the things, okay, and then after that, you know, show continues.
But the next big moment, in my opinion, you have
(08:23):
Bust the Rhymes, who does a whole metal lea songs.
He brings out patpoofs he brings out Gloverla and join
the Lucas. People were very surprised to see those two.
But he also gives a speech. In his speech, he
remembers Ananda Lewis, who was a huge MTV VJ, that
there was no mention of her from the pre show,
to the carpet to the entire show itself. And they
(08:46):
did a tribute to Ozzy Osbourne. So it's not like
they didn't want to do these tributes to, you know,
people who have recently passed. They did a whole tribute
to Ozzy Osbourne. There were a lot of people who
felt like there should have been a tribute for Ananda
because she was empty. Like she was the VJ, she
was the face she ushered in so many especially like
the music that was ours, the black music, that hip hop.
(09:08):
She fought for our music there, which is why Bust
the Rhymes took the time. Let's take a listen to
Bust the Rhymes.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Thank you, King Elle, thank you for being here, my hero,
one of my greatest inspirations, the reason I wrote my
first rhyme, Love Coach J. Y'all know I usually do
these long speeches. I'm not gonna do one today, but
next time, y'all take thirty five years to give me
(09:34):
one of these. Y'all gonna let me talk as long
as I want, but let me get straight to it.
See er, I love you, Yo, Gotti. Salute Mona Scott Young.
Thank you for being the mother of my career. I
want to thank my mother. I want to thank my father.
(09:54):
The rest of peace. Dad, what praise is due to
the most hot God is the greatest. I want to
thank my beauty with children.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I want to take a minute because so this is
what I've been trying to figure out. Right, he says,
the next time, you'll take thirty five years to give
me right. And when he said that, I'm watching the
show and I'm instantly like, wait, I know Buster Rhymes
ain't saying this is the first time. He then touched
a movement a VMA award. There's no bust the rhyme's career,
I mean, the music is epic. The career span of
(10:30):
his career is epic. The again we talk about the
the ability to move in shake. He's gone from music
to acting to like you know, all of that is epic.
But he is known for being the architect of the
music video for his era, there is no it's him,
and there's Missy Elliott, and then there's so many acts
to follow, Like we wouldn't have Luther Chris doing what
(10:52):
he did and move get out the way, we wouldn't
have look. People even talk about the babies music videos
and how over the top they are. We wouldn't have
those moments without bust the rhymes making it a normal
thing for you to really see all of the effects
and the big and the boldness of a music video.
So I'm like, I know he is not saying what
I think he is saying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Not only did I look it up, but I couldn't
because you know, Google gonna tell you anything. And now
I don't even be trusting Google AI anymore. Google AI
and staring me wrong a couple of times. But when
I looked it up, it gives you a breakdown from
nineteen ninety six all the way to two thousand and five,
And said, I saw nominated in nineteen ninety six for
Woo I Got you all in check. Then in nineteen
(11:35):
ninety eight put your hands where my eyes could see
he was nominated for Breakthrough Video, Best Male Video, Best
Rap Video, and then Best Choreography, and then in ninety nine,
What's it going to be featuring Janna Jackson, which is
like I can't even believe that I'm saying this out
of my mouth that these videos never won these awards.
He was nominated for Best hip Hop Video, Best Direction,
(11:58):
Best Special Effects is bust the rhymes, the special effects,
the art Direction, Best Art Direction, give me some more nominated,
Best Breakthrough Video. I can go on and on and
on and on nominated, and I didn't see one anywhere,
and I'm like, yo, this is no way, like Wikipedia
and Google have to be wrong. So I hit bus
Rhymes team and I said, hey, I'm watching the VMA's
(12:21):
right now, and bus Rhymes just said the next And
this is another thing too, He said the next time,
y'all take the thirty five years to you know, I'm
a talk as long as I want, because Bus Rhymes
does give his long motivational speeches whenever he's honored, and
that's been a thing over the last couple of years.
But it was very jokingly about it. Mariah Carey, it
was very jokingly about it. There are huge artists that
(12:42):
careers have literally changed the way people do things and
go about their music videos and their careers.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They hit me back and they say, oh no, Lauren,
You're one hundred percent correct. That was his first time
ever receiving an award on the VMMA stage. He is
not dominated, be never won before. This year in twenty
twenty five, he took home the first ever Rock the
Bells Visionary Award. And for those of you guys who
don't know what Rock the Bells is, that is a
it's an organization, but.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's also a whole music festival.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And you know, they have a platform as well across
digital radio created by l COOLJ. And the reason why
Rock the Bells is so special is because it was
created to make sure that things like what I'm talking
about don't happen. He is giving platform and continuing to
help artists who come from certain time periods and certain
errands be able to still work and get there just do.
(13:35):
He gives them percentages of his festival. He has helped create,
you know, radio shows for people like Rock Sanne, Rock Sanne,
like Roxanne Chatte like. He does amazing work with the platform.
I wouldn't be surprised if you know at this point
Lo COOLJ has so much pool when it comes to
VMA's and all the things that he fought for this
award himself, because I don't understand who over there at
(13:56):
MTV has never understood why Bust the Rhymes should be,
you know, deservant of a Video Music Award. But thank
god that somebody got smart and listening to a locuj
this year, because what in the hell are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
If Buster Rohn's they never got that award.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now, speaking of what the hell are we doing, We're
gonna take a little segue here because one of the
final moments, or not final moments, but the other big
moments of the evening was Gonna. I was surprised to
see the Video Music Awards throw Gonna so much.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, I'm a Gonna fan. I listened to his music.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I know, you know Last One, his album is doing
very very well right now, but they centered a lot
around him. So Gonna dropped an under armour commercial literally
online like a preview of it right before.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
The VMA's begin.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then Gonna walk the carpet of the VMA Awards. He
looked amazing. And then there was a halftime performance that
happened for the first time ever at the VMA's and
it was gonna and under armour. Now I say this
because I I think the timing is very timely for
the VMA's. But it's ironic that all of this young
(15:04):
Thug Gunna stuff is happening and I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Far out you plan, you know, a VMA award.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And something like what Gunna did, But a lot of
this stuff is pre taped too, so I don't know,
you know what the timeline was, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like, hmm, this is very timely.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Another way to get us talking about the VMA's, let's
take a listen to Gunna's halftime performance.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Time at the.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
VMA's is about to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But yeah, I thought that was really really timely.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I mean again, don't get me wrong, I know Gunna
is great music artists. I'm not saying the VMA's needed
the hype, but the way that they inserted themselves in
that conversation, because literally, young thug just sat down with
Bank out of Atlanta and talked about how Gunna says
literally nothing to speak his piece.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
On their whole situation and explain what he did.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And then the next time we see Gunna he's literally
saying absolutely nothing, acting like life is all good.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I mean, and it's been looking all good.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He just did the five K raise, he said, the
VMA's on the carpet with his girl looking good. He
got the under Armored partnership right on time for you know,
this whole mental health and mental and physical wellness branding
that he's been doing. He living life like it's golden
right now. But I just thought it was like very
ironic that the VMA's was kind of able to play
into that whole you know, and Gunna ain't saying nothing
(16:33):
conversation that we had been having because of the sit
down and interview, the exclusive interview that a thug had
just did with Bank for the Perspective show out of Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that was the VMA's, you know, some honorable mentions.
Kenny G performed.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
When Doja Kat performed, he was, you know, the music
accompanying her. Sabrina Carpenter performed as well. I actually love
Sabrina Carpenter, and I'm not like, like I don't really
get into all of the girls, Like I can't really
tell us Swift. I like her the business, but I
would never just like turn on her music. But I
actually like Sabrina Carpenter and when I watched her performances,
said that she's just so cute. I like, I like
(17:07):
to look at her lot on Ice, Spice came out
as well. You guys know, they have the new song
that they're promoting. We still don't even know how they
link back up because they like fake hated each other forever,
but they were on stage as well, playing into that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And this was the first year ever that the show
was on CBS.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
This was the first time ever, you guys know that
they just did that whole new merger with CBS and
sky Dance and all the things.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So good show overall.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I just, you know, I think that this show really
screamed and echoed just how amazing we are as like
black culture creators and entertainment, and just.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
How slow the world still is.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like I still cannot believe that this was the first
year that Buster Rhymes, mister video, the architect of the
music video storytelling. This is the first year that he
received a video music award. And it wasn't even I
mean it was a video music award. He got a
movement but technical it wasn't even for like a video.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It was for his whole career.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
No listen, I'm gonna just let it go because I
could go for a whole another hour. This has been
a latest with Lord of the Roads. I hope you
guys enjoyed the breakdown. If you watch the VMAs, if
you tuned in, you know, let me know how you
feel about it. I do think that it was a
huge miss for the VMA's not to at least show
a photo and take a moment in you know, the
the venue for Ananda Lewis. I also think just crazy
(18:26):
for all the artists like a Mariah Carey and a
Bust Rhymes. You I'm gonna say it's for the fifth
time to be able to get on a stage and
talk about what they have yet to receive up until
this point in twenty twenty five. These are artists who've
been around since before I was even freaking born.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was crazy as well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But I mean, maybe, look, do we appreciate the inclusion
in the finally of the moment, Like finally, thirty five
years later, Bust Rhimes is getting his just through on
that stage. Finally, all this time later, Mariah Carey can say, Hey,
I have a movement do we care to, you know,
give him the nod and say thank you, or do
y'all feel like it's a little bit too late. I
want to hear from you, guys. Make sure you go
(19:00):
and find me. I'm Lauren Lrosa everywhere l O r
e N l O r O s A. At the
end of the day, there's always so much to talk about,
and I tell my Lauraders, y'all could.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Be anywhere with anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Talking about it, but y'all choose to be right here
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