September 17, 2025 • 51 mins
Today on The Breakfast, Marlon Wayans Talks 'Him,' Career & Spiritual Journey, Kai Cenat, 'Scary Movie 6'. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
In the buildings. Indeed, Ladies and gentlemen, Marlon Wayne, what's happening?
What's happening? What's happening? Always home, always home. I feel great,
you know. I love that.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Y'all got the two ladies here. Y'all need the balance,
Thank god, God one wasn't enough. I felt bad for you,
for you, I felt bad for her.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Too much toxic masculinity going on, balls on the table
at all times.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, listen, this is a big week for you.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Him comes out on Friday. Yes, sir, Jordan Peel Monkey
Paw Production.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What made you want to do a dark psychological sports.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Uh carror movie?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
He called, and I said, yes, what you say no
to Jordan Peel? The certain people don't say no to Nah.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna go do a little
man too. It's Jordan field Man. Here's the thing that
it was was great as one of those roles I
didn't have to audition for.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They wanted me. They was just like, you're the guy
him and.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
The director justin tipping two visionaries call you. You pick
up the phone and you go, all right, bet, I'm
gonna bring my a game, and I got I think
I put my best performance in the best movie.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
How did that feel when somebody sees something in you
that you may not see in yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I feel like an old slave, like I know you
ain't talking about you, ain't talking about Sean. What you
need me to do something. I couldn't believe it, but
it felt. It feels good, you know, because I'm so
busy working that I don't realize how much work I've done.
(01:56):
I'm so I got my head down, y'all know me,
i'ld just be on the grind, grind, grind. I don't
really know the effect that I've had, right until you
have these moments in your life when you look up
and you go, wait, I've been doing this for thirty
five years and I got this resume, like and it's
crazy because there's like you're one of one. I don't
know anybody's like that can has a skill level you
(02:18):
got at this point, there's probably three or four guys
that can do this and either they're dead crazy or
they ain't doing it no more. And I was just
like boom, But I think about it and they go.
You get to a point it's like I don't want
to audition if y'all don't know my work by now.
I have played a junkie and requiem. I have played
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seven people in sex tuplets. I played a little person,
a white woman. I've done it all. A football player,
basketball player, done it all. What do you do with
the guy can do everything? Let them do everything? So
these are my years where I just do everything.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
How do you shut down though, because, like you say,
you do everything you do, especially I feel like every
other month you're always on the road. You always do
movies like, so how do you shut down and be like,
I'm gonna put the effort to do it this?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, you do specials when you are special. God just
made special. No, because I work so much. So it's
not like I don't need twenty years to craft a
stand up special, right because this is what I do.
I'm a check myne schedule. I'm on the road every
week and Checkmarlinwayns dot com. I am on the road
every weekend. I'm about to do scary movie. Guess what
scary movie says. I'm on the road every weekend because
(03:24):
I'm preparing for something great. So I just do the
work so specials to me. I'm ready to fill my
next one, and I already know my next two after that.
Because I write scripts. I got a writer in my
head at all times. It's just like you know, pitching
me jokes that and God and so I'm always working
and so I don't like to hold on the material.
I think you let it go. It's like a blank canvas.
I just want to paint, man, just give me the
(03:45):
I just want to paint.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I just love it. I love what I do. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I was agging about you last week because somebody in
the room said, I saw Marlon Williams on cas to
not scream, and he was.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
He was.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
He was almost as funny.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
He was. Lie. It was hot in here, she said,
just like seeing.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
This is crazy this time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
She said. I was shocked. He was funny than what
I said. Wow, not you lie.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I said, you got mad at me because I said
he was better than it was his stream because people
come in that stream and don't know how to like
interact with the chat. And then even if they're great
at what they do, you had thirty five.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Years of experience experience too, and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Space is different than what he does. So even though
you're great at what you do, I don't know if
you've seen no other streams prior to you. They're great talent,
but they don't be knowing how to like lost it
in there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You ate that fifteen year old boy that lives inside
of me that I will never grow up. If you
spend the night at my house and I'm fifty three
years old and you got your mouth wide open, I'm
gonna put some garbage in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You're gonna wake up with makeup on your face.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I ain't I him always, I'm a fart in your mouth.
I'm always my son and his kid and his friends
be like, dad, you got a chill?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Can you stop farting on my friend?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I was like I met five No, but and I
think the key to that show.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And even though all.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The streamers was like, bro, like you you that dude,
they were like you you ain't just movie funny you
ain't just TV funny like you funny funny.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I was like, bro, I do this, this is what
I do. I love to do this. And they were
all surprised, but I was like, they like how you
get like that? I was like, I live on the stage.
I've been writing movies since I was nineteen. I want
to former on tie guol. I've been snapping. That's what
I do. I grew up into projects. I roast people
until you punch me in the face and I punch
you back. That's what I like to do. That's how
(05:56):
I make my friends. I make my friends. That's how
we create our boundary. I talk about you, That's how
we created a friendship.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's like sometimes you gotta go at it. I'm a
New York negro. I'm never gonna not be the kid
on the block ready to snap.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Would you, Reggie?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He said?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He tried to say something, some slip stuff, little chest
to get out of here, go get your ass and
the incubator finish developing, brought y'all something.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Nothing? Was it a Plan B that you bought for us?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I bought that for for what's his name Reggie's mother
because so she could finish the job.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay, so this is simple stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
First, I bought something anybody in here, cigar smokers, okay,
I bought my cigars, my league. I tried dentate cigars.
These are all good. We roll them in Hong doors.
I see, I put the fresh pack in smoke. Yes,
everyone got you. Okay, you got everything you want.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
These are celebratory time that every day is the celebration.
You woke up today. We celebrate. Let me know, we're
gonna sit, sit down on the lounge and smoke.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I bought that for the fellas and ladies smoke too,
you know, don't in hell because you make it dizzy.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And then I bought you one of these. That's for
your little head. I bought these. I want everybody to
be official. You love you, for you. For the ladies,
I bought this one for you, a low dog. Which
one went that nobody, y'all don't fight over my face.
(07:34):
And I bought this for you. You can sleep with this,
and you got me on your chest. Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Available on Mona Waiams dot com. So you get my
cigars and you can get my mercher.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You got the low dog, loaf dog up there.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You didn't want low dog.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'll bring you.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You want this low dog shirt after this interview.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Legendary. That's why we got him up there, like dog.
He ain't that strong. Not going to scary six, scary
movie six, because that's we're working on it. Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I love that little young brother. I love what he's doing.
Most of all, I love that he's stay out of trouble.
I love his whole crew. I really think like you
can't be an old head and not respect the youth
when they coming up. I sit there and go, hey,
maybe I should start an old stream for old people,
old heads.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That would be a lot of fun. And just going
to figure how to get on with me. Got kids,
got a two and a half.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Everything, we're gonna figure out how to get got you
just coming to kids, your daughters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You got daughters, you got four daughters.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh you, Nick Cannon Jr. You're like, no, say mama,
iw maan mama's.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Shop shot. That's good, that's good, Blast them all the
way out. That's that's shop shipping. I'm proud of you.
I'mack man. But yes, that's that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Stream was It was just fun. I had so much fun.
I think the key to life is you just have fun.
Everything I do, I just have fun and I put
one hundred and fifty percent into it. I don't let know,
I don't let nothing go. I'm not too cool. I
just want to have fun and that's always what.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm And it does feel like you're constantly reintroducing yourself
to a new audience because like you said, she didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's not true, and they didn't know, right.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So it's like my kids friends didn't know. They all like, Yo,
you were goat. I didn't know you was that funny.
You didn't see scary movie. You didn't see white Chicks,
you didn't see don't be a minute you ain't see Mama.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
You gotta go buy some of them old heads. When
they come on that stream, they're great. But it's not.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's what I get what you said, Like I know she.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Was comparing athletes and like, no, celebrities is different with comedians.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Comedians are different difference.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Kevin Hart was great as well too on the road. Yeah,
but I'm trying, like I don't know, I think because
it made me think what if we had, like you know,
the in Living Color stream, like what if those worlds
collided today? What would we see and how would the challenge?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You're gonna see it. I'm gonna start my strength. We're
gonna be twitching soon. People.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The ways actually ain't on these old I can't get
my old brothers which camera, then get that camera.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
My brothers wouldn't do it, but I would. I'm just
a troll like that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That that's what I love to do, you know, And
I think eventually that is exactly what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Here's so much. When I went on that show, My
My My.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I have a wonderful stylist, Jason and Ron, and these
brothers try to put me some cool boots and they
were slippery.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I was like, uhh. They had me dressed with some
cool d square pants and this swede jacket. I said no,
I said, why this is? You want to step up
your lip?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I said no, no, I'm going in there with these young
negroes and they gonna be acting the fool I want
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I don't be sliding the round.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I don't want to feel like, give me put I'm
wearing these snap On rick Owens.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm gonna wear some rick On sneakers.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I'm gonna go in there with the youth and we're
gonna have fun. So whatever they was doing, I was
just like, oh, you want to dance, have fun.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
They couldn't even keep up ship after a while, and
then I had drink. Come on, now, don't give me
some drink. Drink and bang drinks.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
My heart was two of them bangs. My heart was
doing this the bank energy.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's like energy, bro, that's like liquid coke.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I was tweaking up. You think I sweat here. I
was sweating in my under arms. I looked like a
substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was crazy in the level it out.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
But she was just like, are you are you on something?
I said, yes, Bang energy, drink for them.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Now, when you talk about the movie Him, was there
something in Isaiah White that challenged you will break.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Down what Him is for people that because they haven't
seen it yet?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
What is Him?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
About Him is a basically it's a it's a psychological
horror thriller set in the world of football, and it's
it's basically like never me Idols. You know, It's like
and what are you willing to sacrifice for success? So
a young brother comes to the greatest quarterback whoever played.
Basically like a Tom Brady's camp, I play Isaiah White.
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He's the greatest quarterback ever. Got eight rings, eight rings,
so he's the goat. So a young man, he's about
to retire because he wants to be with his family,
have a kid and chill out.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
He did it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And so this other kid, this new kid, comes along
and he comes to his camp, and he reminds him
of the great he used to be, and he's like,
I don't want to retire.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want to make your life hell. I want to
break you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
And so he goes about psychologically just dismantling him in
a horrific kind of way. And what happens is it's
the franchise basically is a representation for and signing with,
you know, like the devil, but it's not the devil.
And it's all about the choice, because do you want
to be And he tells them, don't be me, be
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better than me. So all these spoils are in there,
all these athletes. For anybody, right, there's always a sacrifice.
Oh you want to get on, what are you willing
to do to get on? Because at a point it's
not worth your integrity. You never lose your integrity. Don't
be a part of the system. If it's you have
to lose your integrity, you buck the system and you
become the system. And that's what I've done my whole career.
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So that's why I really loved about the movie. There's
something beautiful and positive for young young people in our industry,
whether whatever industry or whatever job.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It is that there's a great message in there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
For nothing should be taken literally, is what you say.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
No, man, people crazy that blood in the eye. You
know they're doing devil worship. They're wronging with sacrifice and ghosts.
It ain't none of that, man. It's like, look, get
off of That is a great movie. It's about good
versus evil. At the end of the day, good is
gonna win. So you got to watch the movie, and honestly,
I think it's probably my favorite movie I've been in.
I think just dramatically, just visually, justin Tipping did his thing.
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Tyreek Withers is great in the movie. Julia Fox is great,
all the supporting cast is great, the soundtrack is great.
When y'all see this movie, it's not a movie you
gonna see one time. This is a movie you're gonna
see like four or five six.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Times they sent me, Wow, what you think?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I thought it was really good?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But it hit the thing I think I and for me,
I think I gave my best performance. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You and the dude that played camera, Yeah, carried the
movie by fall. I had to watch it the first time,
I was like, what did I just watch? When I
watched it the second time, I understood a lot more
of it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But then when you said what you said just now,
I'm like, oh, so that wasn't supposed to be taken literally.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, not literally, but but I really feel like this
this movie. You know, I'm just grateful because the director
let me off the chain. A lot of times, directors
try to cage you, and you know, I'm a lion
that I need a safari.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't like to be caged.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And sometimes that's good that your cage, because then it's
about working the intensity.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But when you open up that when.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You starved me for two weeks, and then you open
up that cage and and it's Sunday, and it's the
it's a full of people and kids, and you just
sitting there hungry, and you're going, I'm gonna eat and
he would just let me off the cage, let me
off the hinge, and just go go there and he
would just we do two takes. He goes, that was great,
(15:16):
that was awesome. I said, you need something else? He goes,
n that was great, and he goes, let's do one more.
Say what do you want?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What do you need?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Do you need something specific? No, I'm good, he goes,
just do and my eyes were light up. He was
telling me, throw out the script and do your interpretation
of what you feel inside.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
As an artist.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
This is Miles Davis playing my funny Valentine. Throw out
the sheet music, and you express what you want given
the instrument that you possess.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And so a lot of the stuff that we did
in it that's unhinged.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I was able to just create on the fly, and
I know how to I know how to improvise as
the character. And for a reason, I'm not trying to
be funny. I'm trying to break you, and breaking you
means I gotta humiliate you. Oh I'm gonna do that
with my jokes. And so there was a lot of
just freedom in that role. And I just feel like,
you know, I think the world finally gets to see Marlin, and.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't know why I thought he was stealing people powers.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
No, well he wasn't stealing powers.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
He was he was taking blood of greats and infusing it,
and then he put that blood in him, you know,
because he's passing it on and not until you get
to that point.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Where the two people gotta collide.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Now we're colliding good versus evil, and then you know
you'll see the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But man, I really it's a powerful movie.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
As an actor, right, do you prefer direction where tell
me how you want this? Or do you prefer let
me be be an actor, let me be art.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I preferred both because I know a director as a
producer and a writer. And you know director, I know
a director has a vision of how they wishing right.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
How they see it. They're ready in the editing booth.
So whatever you're doing, they're ready in the editing booth.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
What do you need If I do a take like
more than four times, there's something specific that I'm not
giving them, or the camera is messed up like this,
out of focus, you know, the Dolly move. So I
don't take that personally, I know, but for me, I
like a take where you go do what you want.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Do what I want.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Now, now you're going to get something special. Now you
get the comedian. Now you get the writer that's been
writing movies since he was nineteen years old.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Now you get the.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Marlin that I have worked myself to be, and I
can improve and enhance any material.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
When you were shooting, I always wondered when people who
work with Jordan Peele like, because you have to watch
it so many different times, like Charlo Mae said, when
you're actually in it, are you ever in real time
realizing that something might be interpreted one way, like, oh,
that's what this means versus it being different than when
you first read the script.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
No, I mean I dig in. I do my work right.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So before I get to set, I have a process,
Like I don't go show up and just earn my
lines in the trailer. No, no, no, no, you give me
a script. Marlin dives in. So I work with my
acting coach. I bring Leylan and Deron Thompson shout out,
and you know you see my dramatic work like right
now when I'm locked I be locked in right now.
So the work I do in stand up is the
(18:15):
same work I do when it comes to breaking down
a script. So before I get to set, not only
do I know the lines, but I know the story.
I know the obstacles, I know the objective and every
scene there's an intention. What am I trying to get?
And then I'm prepared so when the director goes, all
you gotta do is touch me like this and change
this and get this and give me this emotion. And
(18:37):
I got it all prepared because I worked it the
night before the morning before. I work my body to
get my body into a certain way. Like I put
on muscle. I was twenty five pounds bigger than I
am now I lost the weight because I'm about to
do shorty and Scary Movie six, and I don't want
him being Buff's son.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I think that's weird.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So would I say, taking Magic Johnson's blood?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wow? Wow? Wow, Well now he would?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I may take magic blood this man, Richard, and you
better get some blood too.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Why he's telling that he on yachts and boats. I
want that blood.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Like the role, with it being such a psychological role, right,
did it have any effect on your psyche?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
No? I prayed every day. I prayed every day before
I got to set. I prayed every day had to set.
I prayed every day before I went to sleep.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I really tethered myself to God on this dark journey
because you know, I know that spiritually, I wanted to
be protected, right, So that's first and foremost. Secondly, I
had gone through a lot. I had gone through like
it was the devastation that you wouldn't even believe. It
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was like a biblical proportions. I lost sixty five people
I love. I lost my mother, I lost my father.
I had lost so much and I was so broken,
and God gave me this thing. I needed, this movie.
This movie helped, and my stand up helped heal me.
(20:11):
I was Tyrese Gibson cry on your show, what.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Do you want ma from me?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
To do her?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I get what Tyreee was saying. I wanted to come
hug him because I know what he went through when
he lost his mama. I was texting him, that's a
very hard thing for you to get through and then
to lose your daddy two years later and Roma was
crumbling and I was just like So when I got
the movie Him, I saw this dark pool. I jumped
in this dark pool to find Isaiah because as a
(20:41):
character I started reading books book Tim Groven's Relentless, started
reading Kobe Bryant's Mama Mentality. I go, I went in mentally,
and I dove in that pool to catch Isaiah, and
I found Isaiah. And then I looked up and I
saw Marlon face down like Iron Man at the end
of he fought Thanos, just like static. And I saw
(21:07):
a broken Marlin, and I was like, Yo, I need
to go get it him. I need to put Isaiah's
blood into that Marlin because there's so much more for
him to do. These are his best years. So I
went and I bought the two of them together, and
now I'm him.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So listen, when you see Isaiah pushing camera and to
sacrifice everything, what moments in filming made you question what
sacrifice looks like to you? Like what boundaries are you
willing to push? What are you willing to give up?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It wasn't even during filming. Look at it. Listen. I've
been raised in a great culture.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I feel bad for people that came up in the
toxic culture where people had to use you to get
something for you from you, to get on. My brothers
didn't raise me that way. My brothers raised me like yo,
if you want to work, you better you better write it.
You want to work, you better, you better produce it.
You want to work, then you better create it. I
didn't get raised going, Hey, what you gonna do? You
(22:03):
want this part, well, suck on this meat.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I didn't have that. I had, Yo, you want this part,
you better write it. From when I was on was
in Living Color, ain't nobody was writing for me. I
had to write my own sketches. Snuffing Room, Me and
Sean wrote that, what's the name the deaf jam sketch?
Me and Sean wrote that mister ugly Man.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wrote that I had.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
If I wanted to eat, I had to kill. And
so all my movies, me and Sean wrote those movies,
my TV show were created. My TV show, everything we did,
we learned how to. And that was the beauty of Keenan.
Keenan always anybody was around Keenan learned that you gotta
work for Jim Carrey, j Lo, Jada Pinkett.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Anybody, Keenan Sally.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But so many people that was in that man's circle,
they would go, you want it, then you're gonna work
for it. And so he said to me as a kid.
You gotta be undeniable to make it as a black
man in this business. You have to be an unstoppable,
undeniable force of nature because they will write you off.
That's why I'm surviving like a roach thirty five years later.
(23:19):
Do you don't think these niggas wanted be gone after
white chicks? I should have been dead. I should I
should have been gone. After more money, you get a
window to be hot. It's hard to stay relevant and
keep getting hotter for thirty five.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Years and my best years ahead of me. That's because
I do the work.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
It's all about the work, all about the instrument, all
about refining your art.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I want to be like Prince. I want to play
every instrument I have. I want to I just work it.
You just work it.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
That man started out just being a dancer and a
singer and guitar and over the years, look what that
man did with his lifespan.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's what I'm gonna do with mine. White chicks. I
gotta ask white chicks, right, hilarious?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think it's one of those movies.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't think people caught at first, but then when
they caught it, they're like, this is one of the funniest.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Would you ever do a sequel to it? I would.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I'm ain't for technology, I ain't for AI. I don't
want to sit and make up seven hours again. Set
for sixty days, sitting in seven hours of makeup and
then working fourteen hours after that, which means I'm sleeping
two hours every day to do this movie. Nah AI
is coming, so I got to get in makeup two
times and then the AI will do the work. I'm
down for that, But other than that, I want to
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do black Man in the movie where I come in,
I do five minutes to make up, and I get
out there a twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
He said.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
After White Chicks, they wanted you gone. What were some
of the like, did you have a face, me, hardships
or any challenges after that?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Nobody's supposed to be famous this long, they especially if
you black. They know nobody that's unheard of to stay
around that long. It's because you work, right, I will
say this, Hollywood's a great place, but they don't know
what to do with you, right.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So the opportunities you get.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
There's only a small margin that you're gonna get those
opportunities right, because before it gets to me Will Smith
got that script, Eddie Murphy got that script, Jamie Fox
got that script.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
So you gotta wait for all these people to turn
it down.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And I feel bad for regular regular actors because then
you gotta wait for after me. Then after me, you
gotta wait for Nick Cannon. Then you gotta you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's that's a long time to
wait to act. Maybe get a role. But if you
create the role and you put yourself as the star,
now I can cast other people in my vision.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So these are my best years.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And I started as a farmer and an agriculture My
brother taught me farming and agricultural to be an agriculturist.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Now I'm an industry. Industry.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Industry, philanthropy and education is the three things that I'm
gonna work on in terms of building this brand.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
For you personally? What was more frightening?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I guess harder to portray, like the supernatural psychological aspect
or the human fears like failure and insecurity agent.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
See, I think the human it wasn't harder.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I think that stuck with me more because as a
as an aging star, right you start thinking about those things. Luckily,
like I said, I'm not insecure like that because I
create my own way, so I don't care who coming
up next. I'll play out the next man because I'm
right in the movies, so I could put you in
my movie because I know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And then when I'm getting too old and I start
getting them Morgan Freeman moles on my face, I ain't
gonna ain't. I ain't gonna be trying to be the
sexy man. I am pulling this nick out with gray
hairs all over it. We're gonna be behind the scenes.
But these are my best years, and I preserve myself
physically so that at fifty three I can play thirty five.
(26:46):
So now these are my star years, right And everything
else was just practice and knowing and learning.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And I'm very grateful to God to be on this
journey and continue to love it. I love this. I
love it. How long did it? How long did it
take to shoot him? Him?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Took about two and a half months, two to three months,
and we was in New Mexico, But you know, preparation
started six months before that. You know, I'm going on
walks every morning, I'm sitting in red light therapy, I'm
working out two times a day. You know, preparation starts
way before you actually get to set. When you get
to set, now it's time to have fun.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You said you prayed a lot throughout this what did
the movie teach you personally about your spirituality?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
But how good God is and how you should how
everybody needs the wind of God to really get to
where you're going. And if you don't humble yourself and
just know that there's a higher power that one day
you will you will lose yourself. You will lose yourself
and you will think you are God. And that happens
to a lot of us, you know, and I love Will.
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When Will hit Chris, I got concerned not because of
the mental aspect, but because of the spiritual aspect. When
he did his speech and he didn't thank God first,
That's what I was concerned from. And then when he
when he lost, when he lost his stuff, and then
that's why he tethered to God afterward. And I go, Okay,
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now you're going on the journey now, the you that
you were, you needed to go through this. You needed
that breaking to understand that there's something bigger than you,
which is God, and through that journey and through the
hard work, we're gonna be all right. He gonna be
a better will than he was before. But sometimes you
need that moment and you can't think you God. There's
only one God and God was raised with God, and
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you can never take that from me.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's what Lauren said. You know a lot of older people,
especially the old people, they're like, don't don't y'all celebrate Halloween.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Halloween's for the devil. Don't y'all do them? Scared him.
My daddy was that.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
My daddy was turning in his grave like now done
devil day turned with y'all witness no Halloween when you
do those type of movies. Hey man, he listened. Now
I'll be having Halloween parties. Christmas, Oh, we have a
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hell of a Christmas.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I go on sometime.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I go to his casket and I just doing it
with Christmas, play Christmas carols and.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right next to him and my mama, and I know
he like, you know so, but my but my father knows.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
When my father passed, you know, I watched him say
a prayer before he died, and he didn't ask God
for anything, ask God.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
All he said was thank you so grateful. Thank you
for letting me see my children and my grandchildren be born,
to be raised, this family that you gave me. And
it was so powerful that and when he left, he said,
you know, if you ever wanted to find me, I
need you to open that book. So the one thing
I got for.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
My father is his Bible, and I keep my Daddy's
Bible by my bed, and whenever I think about my father,
I'll get.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I wake up. I read my Bible, just like my
father said for me to do. And so he said,
if you know my father, then you'll know your father.
So I'm on the journey to really embrace more of
God in my life. I've been very settled and very chill.
I don't be going to clubs. That's why I smoked
my cigars and.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Have me a little whiskey and I just chill out
with my friends and we just laugh and hang out,
and you know, you find a good life outside the noise.
And my mama, before she died, she said, yeah, well
then it is the contrast of my family. Said yeah, nigga,
Well I'm in every book. So whatever, whenever you read anything,
Mama is in that book. So now when I'm reading
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green Eggs and hand and my daughter, I'm like, hmm,
ham spelled backwards. Ma.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Going back to what you said, being the preparation takes
longer than you know, the actual filming of the movie.
What was your training regimen because you play a legendary quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, here's the thing. I feel physically got into this part.
See Tyreek, he twenty five, you know them, twenty five
year old. They they look at weight and naked, buff.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I had titties before I went to shoot. It was
after COVID. I had titties. I had a belly out
shaped like a little rick ross and no it was.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And so I really was doing like push ups, sit ups,
pull ups. I was doing everything.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
And my trainer, Adam Quinter shout out to Adam quint
t you can find him on Instagram qt Training and
then h CJ Fit in New Mexico. So it was
a hell of a regiment. So when we did football training,
Tyreek was throwing the ball because he used to play
for Florida State. Now he was off the bench, but
he he.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Was the water boy.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But he was around all those great players and he
got a ring from the Orange Bowl. Didn't play, didn't
didn't run a yard, you know, hey, but he drank
a lot of gatorade that game, like he did something,
and he got a ring.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So he got a ring.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
And when he gets started throwing the ball because he's
a wide receiver, he was gunning it like god. And
Jordan Palmer was teaching us how to throw and everything.
So I went to camp and he had done camp
like maybe maybe six times before I went. So I
wver there with my old arm and I started, I
go to throw, and then you know, I'm pigeon told.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He said stop. I said what.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I said, Well, you needed something different. I need to
throw with MOREY goes, No, we need to teach you
how to walk again. I said what He said, Yeah,
your pigeon told, and I need you to walk one
foot in front of the other.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I looked at that man. I said, yeah, this last
time I'm coming to this camp, and I laughed.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I never went back, And now you ain't gonna do
that to me, teach me to walk while this nigga
throwing eighty yards. So I started having quarterback coaches come
to my backyard in my house to train me or
I go to fields and I would train, and as
soon as I got to set, I went to.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Go throw a ball and my director said, what are
you doing? Put that down.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I said, I gotta throw. He said, no, you don't,
said you fifty three. He said, you see that young
man right there with that funny hair, dude like yours.
I said, yeah, watch him throw this ball.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And he threw it like eighty yards. I said, that's dope.
He goes, yeah, that's what he's gonna do. He said,
I didn't. We didn't hire you for that, yo. We
hired you for for your acting and your abilities. So
go eat, eat the hell out of this roll. And
I just ate do football. One time I do. I
threw it maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Uh. There's about three scenes where I had to throw,
but I didn't have to worry about throwing.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Tyreek was walking around.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
He had ice packs and shoulder packs, and I was
just like, yeah, young buck, and that's welcome to the
big leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Young buck.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Where you have attempted to add comic relief in the
in the movie.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I always gotta this.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
There's some funny stuff in there, but it's not like
I'm trying to be funny it's just funny because of
the situation and because he twisted. It's like the Joker.
It's like Denzel and Training Day. To me, the bad
guy just to have fun. Your hero is only as
good as the bad guys. So the better the bad
guy is, the better the hero can be. So I
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made sure I just gave it different complexions and textures.
It's a performance. It's untethered. It's different. It's just honestly,
we all watched it, my agents watch it. It's like
I I haven't seen many performances, not yet. Damon's gunna blow.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's too dark. Keenan. Keenan, may go see it. Sean,
I don't know. That's stupid, Sean. Everything I do, that's stupid.
Why you wanna do that? One time?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
One time I was going up for the Richard Pride movie.
Sean said, whyle you doing that? I said, because I
want to want to Oscar. He goes for what that's stupid?
I was like, because that's my dream. Nigga's Richard. But
we me and Sean were different. But Sean was saying,
was you do comedy and you do us? And I
was like, I do do y'all. But I also do me,
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and I got my my dreams outside of us that
I want to accomplish, and I'm gonna own that. I'm
just not gonna I'm gonna follow the footprints up to
a point and then i gotta go. I'm gonna go
this way because I gotta be a trailblazer for the
next generation, for.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
My kids and my brother's kids who may not want
to do comedy. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's interesting that just taking a role like Isaiah feel
like a turning point then like maybe changing what people
expect to hear from.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's a game changer. This is it's a game changer
when comedians start doing drama. Yeah, that's when you really
blow up. That's when you become legendary. When Robin Williams
started doing dramatic stuff, when Jim Carrey started doing dramatic stuff,
when Will Smith started doing dramatic stuff, when Jamie Fox
started doing that's the game changer.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Because the comedy is hard, But it's the vulnerability.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That comedians have that make us so special in dramas
because when you see it the funny guy hurting you hurt.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
When when people see me hurt or messed up, they
feel bad.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Oh no, don't let that happen to Marlin, not the
goofy one, you know, and make us laugh and smile.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Yes, so you got your game change of role. I
saw a Hypebeast article say you're in your goat era.
I'll watch your CBS this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm not gonna say that, said you're in your goal era.
Well that I would never call myself. I don't self
proclaim right. I think that's false idlehood.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I don't, I won't. I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I don't because to me, goat is how good am
I in my body with the tools that I work,
that God has blessed me with, how much work am
I doing? I want to be the greatest Marlin that
has ever existed in terms of myself. And that's not
about competition. I love all my brothers. I respect all
my brother I respect Will Smith, I respect Dave Chappelle,
I respect Kevin Hart. I don't be bashing nobody, but
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they're them and they being their best them, and I'm
trying to be my best me, and that's all that's important.
So goat era, and you know that conversation that's for
everybody to talk about. For me, I just want to
be the best Marlin Let, the best Marlin Win.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I just feel when I've been watching it in view
is getting ready for this, that there's a you have,
like a feeling of like there's like happiness, but there's
like an arrival even though you've already been here. You
said it took fifty three years to feel special on CBS.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, to get confident.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
But that's to me listening to you say that, it's
crazy because like you've always been Marlon Wayne, I.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Have, but there was missing.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I tap.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Okay, you know I trust you because you be on
your facts.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Is when I watch your interviews, I feel, I don't know,
it just feels different, like you feel like you've arrived. Now,
why what is the feeling with this role?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I've done the work and life has life breaks you
and rips you apart, and you survived through that and
you just go, oh, I get it. I'm here and
and you know, like I said, I was always a happy,
go lucky dude. Once I survived the trauma and the
pain that I went through, I'm a better actor. I'm
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a better actor because I've been more and now my
comedy I don't write about pop culture. I write about
what hurts me. That I write from blood. So when
you see my stand up, it's not just oh he's
telling silly jokes. Ooh he got a story. Yo, there's
something that I learned when I watch that it's coming
from a special place. And when you can make your
pain funny, that's when you start getting great. Richard Pryor
(38:21):
took his pain.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
He had a heart.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Attack and he said, you know what's funny about having
a heart attack? And he did the most brilliant bit
on having a heart attack. That's where you for me,
that's when I got confident, when I started doing stand
up and really looking at myself as an artist and going,
I want to be better writing scripts ain't enough, Acting
ain't enough. Producing is not enough. And then when I said,
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I want to be a superstar stand up so now
I can do it all. Put me anywhere, let's go,
let's rock, let's get it crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That she's talking about the I've arrived moment, right, But
we looked at you from that from a long time ago.
Just look at the history that you've done. You know,
every time they said you couldn't did it over? They
try to take your you know what you've done, and
you said, I you I don't need y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I'm gonna do it my own way and his classes. Right,
so you have to write down like top five and
living color sketches. I guarantee you miss the ugly man
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Had good instincts.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's weird that you're saying this is my you know,
I have arrived moment where we looked at it so long.
Do you feel like you don't get the necessary I
don't want to say respect, but the kudos that you
deserve because you are the funny guy.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
You are the cool guy you are. I mean, it's
a lot, right, It's beyond being the funny guy, the
cool guy. I think you know.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
It's also I'm the baby of legends. It's hard when
you're the baby of legend. You got all these legendaries
dudes doing legendary things and you were a part of
that tribe. Oh that's keenan damon little brother. And not
to say that I want to stand out. It takes
time to know Marlin, right. It took Michael Jackson a
long time before he became Michael. You know, he was
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told with his brothers till he was like thirty five,
forty years old, and he was like, Okay, I need
bad and you know, off the wall he's done little
things and then Thriller hits and you go, oh, he's Michael.
It takes time for you to stand apart when you
come from such a legacy. And I never wanted to
stand apart because I love WANs. I die WANs, I
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breathe WANs, I live WANs And for the past fifteen years,
I've just been working on Marlon so that when I
come back to WANs, I could be a better, stronger
finger and that big and that fist and do our
best work. That's why Scary Movie six this is big.
This is bringing us all back together. And now I
got a completely different skills set than I had when
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I did the first one. So I can't wait till
next summer June twelfth, in theaters, Scary Movie six were
coming with these laughs.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Everybody need these labs.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And I just feel like That's why I said, I
feel like I've arrived, because everything's moving in slow motion.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I get it. It's the matrix.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I also wonder the expectation of being a Wan. It's
kind of like they just expect greatness from me. Also
it's just like whatever, Yeah, but that goes with it.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
But do I think about this the things that I
haven't gotten yet that I don't yearn for it? Don't
I didn't. It's not that that makes my identity. But
I want them statues. I want that in me.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I want that Oscar I want that Grammy for my
comedy album. I want that Tony for a Broadway player.
I want those things and I'm gonna get those things.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And if I fall short and.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I don't get an ego, if I got a guy,
I'm happy. If I got an ah, I'm happy. But
I know that I'm putting in the work, and even
after I get that to me, I still never made
it because you stay hungry as an artist. Look at
guys like Kobe sixty points on his last game. He
kept doing the work. It's about doing the work. The
Kobe that was in the league when he was nineteen,
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he was dope then. But you see the Kobe at
thirty five when he was starting to win those rings consecutively.
That's a different Kobe Bryant. Then after he left, him
and Shack had their dismantling of that team for him
to go get another ring or two more rings after
that without shock.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
That's because that man was an animal. You gotta be.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
I'm an animal. I'm in that gym, I'm working out,
I'm working my instrument. I'm on the stage. I am
not going to fail my moments.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Period, clock it, clock it.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
Speaking of Skyhold, speaking of Scary Movie six, Yes, have
y'all started filming?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
No, we start filming. Uh, I'm going to uh London
to promote him. And then I got a gig in
San Jose. And then October first, we on the set
of in Living Color.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So I mean of.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Scary No, Scary Move six, Scary Move six.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
So we start that.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
When we got and uh his back, Anna Faris, Regina Hall,
were bringing everybody back and man, I'm telling you this
movie script is funny and we're gonna knock this out the.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Parking a living No. No, I would you said, y'all
was doing something with Wayne's brothers, like a show. I
ain't announcing it yet, but you know, but we we're
investigating doing all this stuff. No watch, and then we
did Scary Movie six.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I ain't lying, y'all held us down because I remember
your publicist. She was like, I'll make sure that she
made sure we had all the information. So whatever you're
working on with your brothers, yes, we would love to
also be the home where the world.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I will let you all know. I will come here
the second after. Here's the thing. I love the old heads,
but man, somebody I'll come here first. Man, I was
I wonder to know if I could audition for scary movies.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Girl, we don't cast it. I would love to have
had you in there because okay, well let me think, man,
you can die. Of course everybody asked me to be
and I'm killing her. Everybody dying, everybody dying. You know,
when we do Scary Movie seven, I got you, and
I can write something funny and be like, hey, what's
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something that you could do?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I would like, I like taill them making suits, So
what do you like to do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
It's like Kyle was like, yo, put me in. I
was like, all right, give me a second, and I'm
you know, I'm creating it. It's good, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
We're doing it. Should have been here last Sorry she
was having a baby.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Can she breastfeed her baby on camera? Baby milk?
Speaker 4 (44:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, I got two more clues. What's the line? Can
you do be acting? Oh?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Because I thought it was only fan thing I saw,
I was like, oh that's a part, that's the part.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, you were doing it too, Okay, okay, know that
that's how I see how you got that baby.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
What's the line between being a hero and a villain?
From Isaiah's perspective.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I think and in his eyes he is the hero.
From an ego perspective, he's not the villain. He's the
hero and he ain't gonna let nobody. In his eyes,
Cam is the villain. He's trying to take my spot
and I'm not gonna let it happen. I sacrifice everything
to get here. You don't deserve what I got. And
so it was dark thinking. A lot of Isaiah is
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dark thinking, very negative, very arrogant, you know, full of himself.
And so that's just the way I approached it, you know, pective.
I like to live a humble life, but I think
you got to be humble as a person in a
shark when it comes to your business, when it comes
to your your your you're dying thirst to get things done.
(45:46):
I don't sit there and wait on things to get done.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm a killer.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I am. There's a I read the book by Tim Groven, Relentless.
There's coolers, closers, and cleaners, Tim Groven Grover. He was
Michael Jordan's trainer, Kobe Bryant's trainer, Dwayne Wage's trainer.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I want to be a cleaner. I want give me
the ball. I know what to do it. Just give
me the ball.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
If I practice enough that I own the right, give
me the ball. I'll know what to do with it.
It may be it passed, it may be a three
point zero. I may drive and get fouled and go
to that free throw line. And I'm an eighty five
percent shooter, and I'm gonna make it happen. If I'm
double teamed, I know the dish. It often give me
the ball. That's where I'm at in my career right now.
These I'm waiting on parts. I know my next seven
(46:33):
movies that I have that I want to develop, two
that I have written, one that's almost being set up.
I want to, you know, do a romantic buddy comedy
I got. I'm set up right now for me and
Kicky Palmer, like I see it. I see it in
ways that I don't know if anybody else has had.
Like a lot of my peers, I love him to
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death and they brilliant.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I think I'm the.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Only one that's been writing movies since I was nineteen
years old in producing movies, and now as a star,
I get to write and produce movies for myself and
then look at scripts in a different way, like, oh,
here's how we can make that better.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'm just in a zone. Everything moves in slow motion.
I see air.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
What now you're supposed to say, Hey, can I be
in those movies?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
That was a good kid.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But you know what I would tell you, you funny,
you should be writing and developing movies on your off time.
That's what you should be doing. You gotta because you
on stage right, you're doing You're still doing your stand up.
Don't you feel the growth.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
When you do stand up?
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Like, oh, I'm that dude, Because ain't nothing better than bombing.
When you feel that cold air of a bomb, Like
you throw a joke out there and it just hang
there and you get a oh, yeah, and you feel
that Despininity're like, I'm a double down.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Now I gonna double down. And that's how you get
the better joke. You keep digging. You can't be afraid
of silence. But you should be writing, producing, studying, because
after this, what do you do? Or you could do
it both? See nowadays you can do it all.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Look at you writing books and you know you selling
houses and doing all kinds of stuff, and everybody, we all.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Are all the industry. We have learned that we are
not just a part of the industry. We are industry.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
My last question, yes, but I just almost took my
draws off and threw them at the crowd.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
When it comes to your personal life, how close to
the role of Isaiah was it balancing showing somebody at
the top of their game but also being at a
breaking being, being at a breaking point? What do you
mean somebody was at the top of his game, but
he was also at a breaking point. Have you ever
felt like that in your own life? No, even with
(48:55):
all the grief and everything.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
There's a synapse, right that these all these things that happened,
I think a breaking point was physically, mentally emotionally, Oh man,
I think three years ago, I was at a breaking point,
and that's why I stressed mental health, right. I wear
this mental health awareness thing to remind myself, you know,
(49:17):
as a black man, you have to take care of
your mental health. You because I got there. I seen
myself tossing myself off of a building. That happened to
me twice, because that was everything was hitting me at
one time, and so much pain when my mama died
and my daddy died and then my daughter transitioning. At
(49:40):
that point, there was just so much devastation happening that
I just felt like I can't take it. And that's
when I called my two therapists. And that's the thing
about therapists. I have two therapists. I have a female
and a male, And because I want to make sure
that I govern both sides of myself, my.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Masculine self, my feminine self that could listen and the
women when they have you know, and sometimes you need
a woman's voice.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
And it's funny, my female therapist protects my masculinity more
than my male therapist and supports it. So I think
it's important to have therapy and to have God. Those
three things and a great sense of humor. Those three
things have gotten me through. And you know God is
so real. You ain't found God until you heard never
(50:23):
would have made and you crying in the car, and
you crying in the car with the snop bubbling, your
nose shaking, going yes, I never would.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Have made it with our God. I never would have
made it. God is good. There you go, Malloweyen's ladies.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Absolutely, man, make sure y'all see him this Friday. This Friday,
s Harry movie six next summer.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yes, sir, Sary movie six next summer.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Make sure you mallowayns dot com get your merch and
go get these wonderful lee got your Dente cigars.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I'm telling you right now, they're ahead. I love y'all, man,
and I want to thank you.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Guys for always support me making this home and that, uh,
you know, y'all know me a long time, and you
know y'all see me do the work, and I see
y'all do the work.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
And just know what I root for y'all every every
step of the way. And you know we ain't done.
We all just beginning.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
And I just want to say one of the last
thing we appreciate you, Marlin, is the one for people
out there listening that if you're going through something, if
there's a problem, he'll text you to check on you.
There's not too many people in the industry do that.
We see so many people come and go all the time.
But he will check on you. Yes, and appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yes, I appreciate you. It's the breakfast morning, every day,
breakfast club.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Finish, y'all done it.
Every day a week up the Breakfast Club, finish for
y'all done morning.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Everybody is d J n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the
gud We are the Breakfast Club. Law La roses here
as well, and we got a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
In the buildings. Indeed, Ladies and gentlemen, Marlon Wayne, what's happening?
What's happening? What's happening? Always home, always home. I feel great,
you know. I love that.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Y'all got the two ladies here. Y'all need the balance,
Thank god, God one wasn't enough. I felt bad for you,
for you, I felt bad for her.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Too much toxic masculinity going on, balls on the table
at all times.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, listen, this is a big week for you.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Him comes out on Friday. Yes, sir, Jordan Peel Monkey
Paw Production.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What made you want to do a dark psychological sports.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Uh carror movie?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
He called, and I said, yes, what you say no
to Jordan Peel? The certain people don't say no to Nah.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna go do a little
man too. It's Jordan field Man. Here's the thing that
it was was great as one of those roles I
didn't have to audition for.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They wanted me. They was just like, you're the guy
him and.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
The director justin tipping two visionaries call you. You pick
up the phone and you go, all right, bet, I'm
gonna bring my a game, and I got I think
I put my best performance in the best movie.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
How did that feel when somebody sees something in you
that you may not see in yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I feel like an old slave, like I know you
ain't talking about you, ain't talking about Sean. What you
need me to do something. I couldn't believe it, but
it felt. It feels good, you know, because I'm so
busy working that I don't realize how much work I've done.
(01:56):
I'm so I got my head down, y'all know me,
i'ld just be on the grind, grind, grind. I don't
really know the effect that I've had, right until you
have these moments in your life when you look up
and you go, wait, I've been doing this for thirty
five years and I got this resume, like and it's
crazy because there's like you're one of one. I don't
know anybody's like that can has a skill level you
(02:18):
got at this point, there's probably three or four guys
that can do this and either they're dead crazy or
they ain't doing it no more. And I was just
like boom, But I think about it and they go.
You get to a point it's like I don't want
to audition if y'all don't know my work by now.
I have played a junkie and requiem. I have played
(02:38):
seven people in sex tuplets. I played a little person,
a white woman. I've done it all. A football player,
basketball player, done it all. What do you do with
the guy can do everything? Let them do everything? So
these are my years where I just do everything.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
How do you shut down though, because, like you say,
you do everything you do, especially I feel like every
other month you're always on the road. You always do
movies like, so how do you shut down and be like,
I'm gonna put the effort to do it this?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, you do specials when you are special. God just
made special. No, because I work so much. So it's
not like I don't need twenty years to craft a
stand up special, right because this is what I do.
I'm a check myne schedule. I'm on the road every
week and Checkmarlinwayns dot com. I am on the road
every weekend. I'm about to do scary movie. Guess what
scary movie says. I'm on the road every weekend because
(03:24):
I'm preparing for something great. So I just do the
work so specials to me. I'm ready to fill my
next one, and I already know my next two after that.
Because I write scripts. I got a writer in my
head at all times. It's just like you know, pitching
me jokes that and God and so I'm always working
and so I don't like to hold on the material.
I think you let it go. It's like a blank canvas.
I just want to paint, man, just give me the
(03:45):
I just want to paint.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I just love it. I love what I do. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I was agging about you last week because somebody in
the room said, I saw Marlon Williams on cas to
not scream, and he was.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
He was.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
He was almost as funny.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
He was. Lie. It was hot in here, she said,
just like seeing.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
This is crazy this time.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
She said. I was shocked. He was funny than what
I said. Wow, not you lie.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I said, you got mad at me because I said
he was better than it was his stream because people
come in that stream and don't know how to like
interact with the chat. And then even if they're great
at what they do, you had thirty five.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Years of experience experience too, and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Space is different than what he does. So even though
you're great at what you do, I don't know if
you've seen no other streams prior to you. They're great talent,
but they don't be knowing how to like lost it
in there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You ate that fifteen year old boy that lives inside
of me that I will never grow up. If you
spend the night at my house and I'm fifty three
years old and you got your mouth wide open, I'm
gonna put some garbage in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You're gonna wake up with makeup on your face.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I ain't I him always, I'm a fart in your mouth.
I'm always my son and his kid and his friends
be like, dad, you got a chill?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Can you stop farting on my friend?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I was like I met five No, but and I
think the key to that show.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And even though all.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The streamers was like, bro, like you you that dude,
they were like you you ain't just movie funny you
ain't just TV funny like you funny funny.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I was like, bro, I do this, this is what
I do. I love to do this. And they were
all surprised, but I was like, they like how you
get like that? I was like, I live on the stage.
I've been writing movies since I was nineteen. I want
to former on tie guol. I've been snapping. That's what
I do. I grew up into projects. I roast people
until you punch me in the face and I punch
you back. That's what I like to do. That's how
(05:56):
I make my friends. I make my friends. That's how
we create our boundary. I talk about you, That's how
we created a friendship.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's like sometimes you gotta go at it. I'm a
New York negro. I'm never gonna not be the kid
on the block ready to snap.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Would you, Reggie?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He said?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He tried to say something, some slip stuff, little chest
to get out of here, go get your ass and
the incubator finish developing, brought y'all something.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Nothing? Was it a Plan B that you bought for us?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I bought that for for what's his name Reggie's mother
because so she could finish the job.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay, so this is simple stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
First, I bought something anybody in here, cigar smokers, okay,
I bought my cigars, my league. I tried dentate cigars.
These are all good. We roll them in Hong doors.
I see, I put the fresh pack in smoke. Yes,
everyone got you. Okay, you got everything you want.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
These are celebratory time that every day is the celebration.
You woke up today. We celebrate. Let me know, we're
gonna sit, sit down on the lounge and smoke.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I bought that for the fellas and ladies smoke too,
you know, don't in hell because you make it dizzy.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And then I bought you one of these. That's for
your little head. I bought these. I want everybody to
be official. You love you, for you. For the ladies,
I bought this one for you, a low dog. Which
one went that nobody, y'all don't fight over my face.
(07:34):
And I bought this for you. You can sleep with this,
and you got me on your chest. Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Available on Mona Waiams dot com. So you get my
cigars and you can get my mercher.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You got the low dog, loaf dog up there.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You didn't want low dog.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'll bring you.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You want this low dog shirt after this interview.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Legendary. That's why we got him up there, like dog.
He ain't that strong. Not going to scary six, scary
movie six, because that's we're working on it. Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I love that little young brother. I love what he's doing.
Most of all, I love that he's stay out of trouble.
I love his whole crew. I really think like you
can't be an old head and not respect the youth
when they coming up. I sit there and go, hey,
maybe I should start an old stream for old people,
old heads.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That would be a lot of fun. And just going
to figure how to get on with me. Got kids,
got a two and a half.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Everything, we're gonna figure out how to get got you
just coming to kids, your daughters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You got daughters, you got four daughters.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh you, Nick Cannon Jr. You're like, no, say mama,
iw maan mama's.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Shop shot. That's good, that's good, Blast them all the
way out. That's that's shop shipping. I'm proud of you.
I'mack man. But yes, that's that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Stream was It was just fun. I had so much fun.
I think the key to life is you just have fun.
Everything I do, I just have fun and I put
one hundred and fifty percent into it. I don't let know,
I don't let nothing go. I'm not too cool. I
just want to have fun and that's always what.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm And it does feel like you're constantly reintroducing yourself
to a new audience because like you said, she didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's not true, and they didn't know, right.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So it's like my kids friends didn't know. They all like, Yo,
you were goat. I didn't know you was that funny.
You didn't see scary movie. You didn't see white Chicks,
you didn't see don't be a minute you ain't see Mama.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
You gotta go buy some of them old heads. When
they come on that stream, they're great. But it's not.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's what I get what you said, Like I know she.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Was comparing athletes and like, no, celebrities is different with comedians.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Comedians are different difference.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Kevin Hart was great as well too on the road. Yeah,
but I'm trying, like I don't know, I think because
it made me think what if we had, like you know,
the in Living Color stream, like what if those worlds
collided today? What would we see and how would the challenge?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You're gonna see it. I'm gonna start my strength. We're
gonna be twitching soon. People.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The ways actually ain't on these old I can't get
my old brothers which camera, then get that camera.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
My brothers wouldn't do it, but I would. I'm just
a troll like that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That that's what I love to do, you know, And
I think eventually that is exactly what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Here's so much. When I went on that show, My
My My.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I have a wonderful stylist, Jason and Ron, and these
brothers try to put me some cool boots and they
were slippery.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I was like, uhh. They had me dressed with some
cool d square pants and this swede jacket. I said no,
I said, why this is? You want to step up
your lip?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I said no, no, I'm going in there with these young
negroes and they gonna be acting the fool I want
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I don't be sliding the round.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I don't want to feel like, give me put I'm
wearing these snap On rick Owens.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm gonna wear some rick On sneakers.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I'm gonna go in there with the youth and we're
gonna have fun. So whatever they was doing, I was
just like, oh, you want to dance, have fun.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
They couldn't even keep up ship after a while, and
then I had drink. Come on, now, don't give me
some drink. Drink and bang drinks.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
My heart was two of them bangs. My heart was
doing this the bank energy.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's like energy, bro, that's like liquid coke.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I was tweaking up. You think I sweat here. I
was sweating in my under arms. I looked like a
substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was crazy in the level it out.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
But she was just like, are you are you on something?
I said, yes, Bang energy, drink for them.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Now, when you talk about the movie Him, was there
something in Isaiah White that challenged you will break.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Down what Him is for people that because they haven't
seen it yet?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
What is Him?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
About Him is a basically it's a it's a psychological
horror thriller set in the world of football, and it's
it's basically like never me Idols. You know, It's like
and what are you willing to sacrifice for success? So
a young brother comes to the greatest quarterback whoever played.
Basically like a Tom Brady's camp, I play Isaiah White.
(12:12):
He's the greatest quarterback ever. Got eight rings, eight rings,
so he's the goat. So a young man, he's about
to retire because he wants to be with his family,
have a kid and chill out.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
He did it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And so this other kid, this new kid, comes along
and he comes to his camp, and he reminds him
of the great he used to be, and he's like,
I don't want to retire.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want to make your life hell. I want to
break you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
And so he goes about psychologically just dismantling him in
a horrific kind of way. And what happens is it's
the franchise basically is a representation for and signing with,
you know, like the devil, but it's not the devil.
And it's all about the choice, because do you want
to be And he tells them, don't be me, be
(12:56):
better than me. So all these spoils are in there,
all these athletes. For anybody, right, there's always a sacrifice.
Oh you want to get on, what are you willing
to do to get on? Because at a point it's
not worth your integrity. You never lose your integrity. Don't
be a part of the system. If it's you have
to lose your integrity, you buck the system and you
become the system. And that's what I've done my whole career.
(13:18):
So that's why I really loved about the movie. There's
something beautiful and positive for young young people in our industry,
whether whatever industry or whatever job.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It is that there's a great message in there.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
For nothing should be taken literally, is what you say.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
No, man, people crazy that blood in the eye. You
know they're doing devil worship. They're wronging with sacrifice and ghosts.
It ain't none of that, man. It's like, look, get
off of That is a great movie. It's about good
versus evil. At the end of the day, good is
gonna win. So you got to watch the movie, and honestly,
I think it's probably my favorite movie I've been in.
I think just dramatically, just visually, justin Tipping did his thing.
(13:56):
Tyreek Withers is great in the movie. Julia Fox is great,
all the supporting cast is great, the soundtrack is great.
When y'all see this movie, it's not a movie you
gonna see one time. This is a movie you're gonna
see like four or five six.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Times they sent me, Wow, what you think?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I thought it was really good?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But it hit the thing I think I and for me,
I think I gave my best performance. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You and the dude that played camera, Yeah, carried the
movie by fall. I had to watch it the first time,
I was like, what did I just watch? When I
watched it the second time, I understood a lot more
of it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But then when you said what you said just now,
I'm like, oh, so that wasn't supposed to be taken literally.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, not literally, but but I really feel like this
this movie. You know, I'm just grateful because the director
let me off the chain. A lot of times, directors
try to cage you, and you know, I'm a lion
that I need a safari.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't like to be caged.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And sometimes that's good that your cage, because then it's
about working the intensity.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But when you open up that when.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You starved me for two weeks, and then you open
up that cage and and it's Sunday, and it's the
it's a full of people and kids, and you just
sitting there hungry, and you're going, I'm gonna eat and
he would just let me off the cage, let me
off the hinge, and just go go there and he
would just we do two takes. He goes, that was great,
(15:16):
that was awesome. I said, you need something else? He goes,
n that was great, and he goes, let's do one more.
Say what do you want?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What do you need?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Do you need something specific? No, I'm good, he goes,
just do and my eyes were light up. He was
telling me, throw out the script and do your interpretation
of what you feel inside.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
As an artist.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
This is Miles Davis playing my funny Valentine. Throw out
the sheet music, and you express what you want given
the instrument that you possess.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And so a lot of the stuff that we did
in it that's unhinged.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I was able to just create on the fly, and
I know how to I know how to improvise as
the character. And for a reason, I'm not trying to
be funny. I'm trying to break you, and breaking you
means I gotta humiliate you. Oh I'm gonna do that
with my jokes. And so there was a lot of
just freedom in that role. And I just feel like,
you know, I think the world finally gets to see Marlin, and.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't know why I thought he was stealing people powers.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
No, well he wasn't stealing powers.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
He was he was taking blood of greats and infusing it,
and then he put that blood in him, you know,
because he's passing it on and not until you get
to that point.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Where the two people gotta collide.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Now we're colliding good versus evil, and then you know
you'll see the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But man, I really it's a powerful movie.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
As an actor, right, do you prefer direction where tell
me how you want this? Or do you prefer let
me be be an actor, let me be art.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I preferred both because I know a director as a
producer and a writer. And you know director, I know
a director has a vision of how they wishing right.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
How they see it. They're ready in the editing booth.
So whatever you're doing, they're ready in the editing booth.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
What do you need If I do a take like
more than four times, there's something specific that I'm not
giving them, or the camera is messed up like this,
out of focus, you know, the Dolly move. So I
don't take that personally, I know, but for me, I
like a take where you go do what you want.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Do what I want.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Now, now you're going to get something special. Now you
get the comedian. Now you get the writer that's been
writing movies since he was nineteen years old.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Now you get the.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Marlin that I have worked myself to be, and I
can improve and enhance any material.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
When you were shooting, I always wondered when people who
work with Jordan Peele like, because you have to watch
it so many different times, like Charlo Mae said, when
you're actually in it, are you ever in real time
realizing that something might be interpreted one way, like, oh,
that's what this means versus it being different than when
you first read the script.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
No, I mean I dig in. I do my work right.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So before I get to set, I have a process,
Like I don't go show up and just earn my
lines in the trailer. No, no, no, no, you give me
a script. Marlin dives in. So I work with my
acting coach. I bring Leylan and Deron Thompson shout out,
and you know you see my dramatic work like right
now when I'm locked I be locked in right now.
So the work I do in stand up is the
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same work I do when it comes to breaking down
a script. So before I get to set, not only
do I know the lines, but I know the story.
I know the obstacles, I know the objective and every
scene there's an intention. What am I trying to get?
And then I'm prepared so when the director goes, all
you gotta do is touch me like this and change
this and get this and give me this emotion. And
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I got it all prepared because I worked it the
night before the morning before. I work my body to
get my body into a certain way. Like I put
on muscle. I was twenty five pounds bigger than I
am now I lost the weight because I'm about to
do shorty and Scary Movie six, and I don't want
him being Buff's son.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I think that's weird.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So would I say, taking Magic Johnson's blood?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wow? Wow? Wow, Well now he would?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I may take magic blood this man, Richard, and you
better get some blood too.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Why he's telling that he on yachts and boats. I
want that blood.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Like the role, with it being such a psychological role, right,
did it have any effect on your psyche?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
No? I prayed every day. I prayed every day before
I got to set. I prayed every day had to set.
I prayed every day before I went to sleep.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I really tethered myself to God on this dark journey
because you know, I know that spiritually, I wanted to
be protected, right, So that's first and foremost. Secondly, I
had gone through a lot. I had gone through like
it was the devastation that you wouldn't even believe. It
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was like a biblical proportions. I lost sixty five people
I love. I lost my mother, I lost my father.
I had lost so much and I was so broken,
and God gave me this thing. I needed, this movie.
This movie helped, and my stand up helped heal me.
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I was Tyrese Gibson cry on your show, what.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Do you want ma from me?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
To do her?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I get what Tyreee was saying. I wanted to come
hug him because I know what he went through when
he lost his mama. I was texting him, that's a
very hard thing for you to get through and then
to lose your daddy two years later and Roma was
crumbling and I was just like So when I got
the movie Him, I saw this dark pool. I jumped
in this dark pool to find Isaiah because as a
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character I started reading books book Tim Groven's Relentless, started
reading Kobe Bryant's Mama Mentality. I go, I went in mentally,
and I dove in that pool to catch Isaiah, and
I found Isaiah. And then I looked up and I
saw Marlon face down like Iron Man at the end
of he fought Thanos, just like static. And I saw
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a broken Marlin, and I was like, Yo, I need
to go get it him. I need to put Isaiah's
blood into that Marlin because there's so much more for
him to do. These are his best years. So I
went and I bought the two of them together, and
now I'm him.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So listen, when you see Isaiah pushing camera and to
sacrifice everything, what moments in filming made you question what
sacrifice looks like to you? Like what boundaries are you
willing to push? What are you willing to give up?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It wasn't even during filming. Look at it. Listen. I've
been raised in a great culture.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I feel bad for people that came up in the
toxic culture where people had to use you to get
something for you from you, to get on. My brothers
didn't raise me that way. My brothers raised me like yo,
if you want to work, you better you better write it.
You want to work, you better, you better produce it.
You want to work, then you better create it. I
didn't get raised going, Hey, what you gonna do? You
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want this part, well, suck on this meat.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I didn't have that. I had, Yo, you want this part,
you better write it. From when I was on was
in Living Color, ain't nobody was writing for me. I
had to write my own sketches. Snuffing Room, Me and
Sean wrote that, what's the name the deaf jam sketch?
Me and Sean wrote that mister ugly Man.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wrote that I had.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
If I wanted to eat, I had to kill. And
so all my movies, me and Sean wrote those movies,
my TV show were created. My TV show, everything we did,
we learned how to. And that was the beauty of Keenan.
Keenan always anybody was around Keenan learned that you gotta
work for Jim Carrey, j Lo, Jada Pinkett.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Anybody, Keenan Sally.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But so many people that was in that man's circle,
they would go, you want it, then you're gonna work
for it. And so he said to me as a kid.
You gotta be undeniable to make it as a black
man in this business. You have to be an unstoppable,
undeniable force of nature because they will write you off.
That's why I'm surviving like a roach thirty five years later.
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Do you don't think these niggas wanted be gone after
white chicks? I should have been dead. I should I
should have been gone. After more money, you get a
window to be hot. It's hard to stay relevant and
keep getting hotter for thirty five.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Years and my best years ahead of me. That's because
I do the work.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
It's all about the work, all about the instrument, all
about refining your art.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I want to be like Prince. I want to play
every instrument I have. I want to I just work it.
You just work it.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
That man started out just being a dancer and a
singer and guitar and over the years, look what that
man did with his lifespan.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's what I'm gonna do with mine. White chicks. I
gotta ask white chicks, right, hilarious?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think it's one of those movies.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't think people caught at first, but then when
they caught it, they're like, this is one of the funniest.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Would you ever do a sequel to it? I would.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I'm ain't for technology, I ain't for AI. I don't
want to sit and make up seven hours again. Set
for sixty days, sitting in seven hours of makeup and
then working fourteen hours after that, which means I'm sleeping
two hours every day to do this movie. Nah AI
is coming, so I got to get in makeup two
times and then the AI will do the work. I'm
down for that, But other than that, I want to
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do black Man in the movie where I come in,
I do five minutes to make up, and I get
out there a twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
He said.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
After White Chicks, they wanted you gone. What were some
of the like, did you have a face, me, hardships
or any challenges after that?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Nobody's supposed to be famous this long, they especially if
you black. They know nobody that's unheard of to stay
around that long. It's because you work, right, I will
say this, Hollywood's a great place, but they don't know
what to do with you, right.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
So the opportunities you get.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
There's only a small margin that you're gonna get those
opportunities right, because before it gets to me Will Smith
got that script, Eddie Murphy got that script, Jamie Fox
got that script.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
So you gotta wait for all these people to turn
it down.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And I feel bad for regular regular actors because then
you gotta wait for after me. Then after me, you
gotta wait for Nick Cannon. Then you gotta you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's that's a long time to
wait to act. Maybe get a role. But if you
create the role and you put yourself as the star,
now I can cast other people in my vision.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So these are my best years.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And I started as a farmer and an agriculture My
brother taught me farming and agricultural to be an agriculturist.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Now I'm an industry. Industry.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Industry, philanthropy and education is the three things that I'm
gonna work on in terms of building this brand.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
For you personally? What was more frightening?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I guess harder to portray, like the supernatural psychological aspect
or the human fears like failure and insecurity agent.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
See, I think the human it wasn't harder.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I think that stuck with me more because as a
as an aging star, right you start thinking about those things. Luckily,
like I said, I'm not insecure like that because I
create my own way, so I don't care who coming
up next. I'll play out the next man because I'm
right in the movies, so I could put you in
my movie because I know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And then when I'm getting too old and I start
getting them Morgan Freeman moles on my face, I ain't
gonna ain't. I ain't gonna be trying to be the
sexy man. I am pulling this nick out with gray
hairs all over it. We're gonna be behind the scenes.
But these are my best years, and I preserve myself
physically so that at fifty three I can play thirty five.
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So now these are my star years, right And everything
else was just practice and knowing and learning.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And I'm very grateful to God to be on this
journey and continue to love it. I love this. I
love it. How long did it? How long did it
take to shoot him? Him?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Took about two and a half months, two to three months,
and we was in New Mexico, But you know, preparation
started six months before that. You know, I'm going on
walks every morning, I'm sitting in red light therapy, I'm
working out two times a day. You know, preparation starts
way before you actually get to set. When you get
to set, now it's time to have fun.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You said you prayed a lot throughout this what did
the movie teach you personally about your spirituality?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
But how good God is and how you should how
everybody needs the wind of God to really get to
where you're going. And if you don't humble yourself and
just know that there's a higher power that one day
you will you will lose yourself. You will lose yourself
and you will think you are God. And that happens
to a lot of us, you know, and I love Will.
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When Will hit Chris, I got concerned not because of
the mental aspect, but because of the spiritual aspect. When
he did his speech and he didn't thank God first,
That's what I was concerned from. And then when he
when he lost, when he lost his stuff, and then
that's why he tethered to God afterward. And I go, Okay,
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now you're going on the journey now, the you that
you were, you needed to go through this. You needed
that breaking to understand that there's something bigger than you,
which is God, and through that journey and through the
hard work, we're gonna be all right. He gonna be
a better will than he was before. But sometimes you
need that moment and you can't think you God. There's
only one God and God was raised with God, and
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you can never take that from me.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's what Lauren said. You know a lot of older people,
especially the old people, they're like, don't don't y'all celebrate Halloween.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Halloween's for the devil. Don't y'all do them? Scared him.
My daddy was that.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
My daddy was turning in his grave like now done
devil day turned with y'all witness no Halloween when you
do those type of movies. Hey man, he listened. Now
I'll be having Halloween parties. Christmas, Oh, we have a
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hell of a Christmas.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I go on sometime.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I go to his casket and I just doing it
with Christmas, play Christmas carols and.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right next to him and my mama, and I know
he like, you know so, but my but my father knows.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
When my father passed, you know, I watched him say
a prayer before he died, and he didn't ask God
for anything, ask God.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
All he said was thank you so grateful. Thank you
for letting me see my children and my grandchildren be born,
to be raised, this family that you gave me. And
it was so powerful that and when he left, he said,
you know, if you ever wanted to find me, I
need you to open that book. So the one thing
I got for.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
My father is his Bible, and I keep my Daddy's
Bible by my bed, and whenever I think about my father,
I'll get.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I wake up. I read my Bible, just like my
father said for me to do. And so he said,
if you know my father, then you'll know your father.
So I'm on the journey to really embrace more of
God in my life. I've been very settled and very chill.
I don't be going to clubs. That's why I smoked
my cigars and.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Have me a little whiskey and I just chill out
with my friends and we just laugh and hang out,
and you know, you find a good life outside the noise.
And my mama, before she died, she said, yeah, well
then it is the contrast of my family. Said yeah, nigga,
Well I'm in every book. So whatever, whenever you read anything,
Mama is in that book. So now when I'm reading
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green Eggs and hand and my daughter, I'm like, hmm,
ham spelled backwards. Ma.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Going back to what you said, being the preparation takes
longer than you know, the actual filming of the movie.
What was your training regimen because you play a legendary quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, here's the thing. I feel physically got into this part.
See Tyreek, he twenty five, you know them, twenty five
year old. They they look at weight and naked, buff.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I had titties before I went to shoot. It was
after COVID. I had titties. I had a belly out
shaped like a little rick ross and no it was.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And so I really was doing like push ups, sit ups,
pull ups. I was doing everything.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
And my trainer, Adam Quinter shout out to Adam quint
t you can find him on Instagram qt Training and
then h CJ Fit in New Mexico. So it was
a hell of a regiment. So when we did football training,
Tyreek was throwing the ball because he used to play
for Florida State. Now he was off the bench, but
he he.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Was the water boy.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But he was around all those great players and he
got a ring from the Orange Bowl. Didn't play, didn't
didn't run a yard, you know, hey, but he drank
a lot of gatorade that game, like he did something,
and he got a ring.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So he got a ring.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
And when he gets started throwing the ball because he's
a wide receiver, he was gunning it like god. And
Jordan Palmer was teaching us how to throw and everything.
So I went to camp and he had done camp
like maybe maybe six times before I went. So I
wver there with my old arm and I started, I
go to throw, and then you know, I'm pigeon told.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He said stop. I said what.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I said, Well, you needed something different. I need to
throw with MOREY goes, No, we need to teach you
how to walk again. I said what He said, Yeah,
your pigeon told, and I need you to walk one
foot in front of the other.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I looked at that man. I said, yeah, this last
time I'm coming to this camp, and I laughed.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I never went back, And now you ain't gonna do
that to me, teach me to walk while this nigga
throwing eighty yards. So I started having quarterback coaches come
to my backyard in my house to train me or
I go to fields and I would train, and as
soon as I got to set, I went to.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Go throw a ball and my director said, what are
you doing? Put that down.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I said, I gotta throw. He said, no, you don't,
said you fifty three. He said, you see that young
man right there with that funny hair, dude like yours.
I said, yeah, watch him throw this ball.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And he threw it like eighty yards. I said, that's dope.
He goes, yeah, that's what he's gonna do. He said,
I didn't. We didn't hire you for that, yo. We
hired you for for your acting and your abilities. So
go eat, eat the hell out of this roll. And
I just ate do football. One time I do. I
threw it maybe.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Uh. There's about three scenes where I had to throw,
but I didn't have to worry about throwing.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Tyreek was walking around.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
He had ice packs and shoulder packs, and I was
just like, yeah, young buck, and that's welcome to the
big leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Young buck.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Where you have attempted to add comic relief in the
in the movie.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I always gotta this.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
There's some funny stuff in there, but it's not like
I'm trying to be funny it's just funny because of
the situation and because he twisted. It's like the Joker.
It's like Denzel and Training Day. To me, the bad
guy just to have fun. Your hero is only as
good as the bad guys. So the better the bad
guy is, the better the hero can be. So I
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made sure I just gave it different complexions and textures.
It's a performance. It's untethered. It's different. It's just honestly,
we all watched it, my agents watch it. It's like
I I haven't seen many performances, not yet. Damon's gunna blow.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's too dark. Keenan. Keenan, may go see it. Sean,
I don't know. That's stupid, Sean. Everything I do, that's stupid.
Why you wanna do that? One time?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
One time I was going up for the Richard Pride movie.
Sean said, whyle you doing that? I said, because I
want to want to Oscar. He goes for what that's stupid?
I was like, because that's my dream. Nigga's Richard. But
we me and Sean were different. But Sean was saying,
was you do comedy and you do us? And I
was like, I do do y'all. But I also do me,
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and I got my my dreams outside of us that
I want to accomplish, and I'm gonna own that. I'm
just not gonna I'm gonna follow the footprints up to
a point and then i gotta go. I'm gonna go
this way because I gotta be a trailblazer for the
next generation, for.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
My kids and my brother's kids who may not want
to do comedy. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's interesting that just taking a role like Isaiah feel
like a turning point then like maybe changing what people
expect to hear from.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's a game changer. This is it's a game changer
when comedians start doing drama. Yeah, that's when you really
blow up. That's when you become legendary. When Robin Williams
started doing dramatic stuff, when Jim Carrey started doing dramatic stuff,
when Will Smith started doing dramatic stuff, when Jamie Fox
started doing that's the game changer.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Because the comedy is hard, But it's the vulnerability.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That comedians have that make us so special in dramas
because when you see it the funny guy hurting you hurt.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
When when people see me hurt or messed up, they
feel bad.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Oh no, don't let that happen to Marlin, not the
goofy one, you know, and make us laugh and smile.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Yes, so you got your game change of role. I
saw a Hypebeast article say you're in your goat era.
I'll watch your CBS this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm not gonna say that, said you're in your goal era.
Well that I would never call myself. I don't self
proclaim right. I think that's false idlehood.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I don't, I won't. I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I don't because to me, goat is how good am
I in my body with the tools that I work,
that God has blessed me with, how much work am
I doing? I want to be the greatest Marlin that
has ever existed in terms of myself. And that's not
about competition. I love all my brothers. I respect all
my brother I respect Will Smith, I respect Dave Chappelle,
I respect Kevin Hart. I don't be bashing nobody, but
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they're them and they being their best them, and I'm
trying to be my best me, and that's all that's important.
So goat era, and you know that conversation that's for
everybody to talk about. For me, I just want to
be the best Marlin Let, the best Marlin Win.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I just feel when I've been watching it in view
is getting ready for this, that there's a you have,
like a feeling of like there's like happiness, but there's
like an arrival even though you've already been here. You
said it took fifty three years to feel special on CBS.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, to get confident.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
But that's to me listening to you say that, it's
crazy because like you've always been Marlon Wayne, I.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Have, but there was missing.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I tap.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Okay, you know I trust you because you be on
your facts.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Is when I watch your interviews, I feel, I don't know,
it just feels different, like you feel like you've arrived. Now,
why what is the feeling with this role?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I've done the work and life has life breaks you
and rips you apart, and you survived through that and
you just go, oh, I get it. I'm here and
and you know, like I said, I was always a happy,
go lucky dude. Once I survived the trauma and the
pain that I went through, I'm a better actor. I'm
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a better actor because I've been more and now my
comedy I don't write about pop culture. I write about
what hurts me. That I write from blood. So when
you see my stand up, it's not just oh he's
telling silly jokes. Ooh he got a story. Yo, there's
something that I learned when I watch that it's coming
from a special place. And when you can make your
pain funny, that's when you start getting great. Richard Pryor
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took his pain.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
He had a heart.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Attack and he said, you know what's funny about having
a heart attack? And he did the most brilliant bit
on having a heart attack. That's where you for me,
that's when I got confident, when I started doing stand
up and really looking at myself as an artist and going,
I want to be better writing scripts ain't enough, Acting
ain't enough. Producing is not enough. And then when I said,
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I want to be a superstar stand up so now
I can do it all. Put me anywhere, let's go,
let's rock, let's get it crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That she's talking about the I've arrived moment, right, But
we looked at you from that from a long time ago.
Just look at the history that you've done. You know,
every time they said you couldn't did it over? They
try to take your you know what you've done, and
you said, I you I don't need y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I'm gonna do it my own way and his classes. Right,
so you have to write down like top five and
living color sketches. I guarantee you miss the ugly man
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Had good instincts.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's weird that you're saying this is my you know,
I have arrived moment where we looked at it so long.
Do you feel like you don't get the necessary I
don't want to say respect, but the kudos that you
deserve because you are the funny guy.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
You are the cool guy you are. I mean, it's
a lot, right, It's beyond being the funny guy, the
cool guy. I think you know.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
It's also I'm the baby of legends. It's hard when
you're the baby of legend. You got all these legendaries
dudes doing legendary things and you were a part of
that tribe. Oh that's keenan damon little brother. And not
to say that I want to stand out. It takes
time to know Marlin, right. It took Michael Jackson a
long time before he became Michael. You know, he was
(39:55):
told with his brothers till he was like thirty five,
forty years old, and he was like, Okay, I need
bad and you know, off the wall he's done little
things and then Thriller hits and you go, oh, he's Michael.
It takes time for you to stand apart when you
come from such a legacy. And I never wanted to
stand apart because I love WANs. I die WANs, I
(40:16):
breathe WANs, I live WANs And for the past fifteen years,
I've just been working on Marlon so that when I
come back to WANs, I could be a better, stronger
finger and that big and that fist and do our
best work. That's why Scary Movie six this is big.
This is bringing us all back together. And now I
got a completely different skills set than I had when
(40:39):
I did the first one. So I can't wait till
next summer June twelfth, in theaters, Scary Movie six were
coming with these laughs.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Everybody need these labs.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And I just feel like That's why I said, I
feel like I've arrived, because everything's moving in slow motion.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I get it. It's the matrix.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I also wonder the expectation of being a Wan. It's
kind of like they just expect greatness from me. Also
it's just like whatever, Yeah, but that goes with it.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
But do I think about this the things that I
haven't gotten yet that I don't yearn for it? Don't
I didn't. It's not that that makes my identity. But
I want them statues. I want that in me.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I want that Oscar I want that Grammy for my
comedy album. I want that Tony for a Broadway player.
I want those things and I'm gonna get those things.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And if I fall short and.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I don't get an ego, if I got a guy,
I'm happy. If I got an ah, I'm happy. But
I know that I'm putting in the work, and even
after I get that to me, I still never made
it because you stay hungry as an artist. Look at
guys like Kobe sixty points on his last game. He
kept doing the work. It's about doing the work. The
Kobe that was in the league when he was nineteen,
(41:50):
he was dope then. But you see the Kobe at
thirty five when he was starting to win those rings consecutively.
That's a different Kobe Bryant. Then after he left, him
and Shack had their dismantling of that team for him
to go get another ring or two more rings after
that without shock.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
That's because that man was an animal. You gotta be.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
I'm an animal. I'm in that gym, I'm working out,
I'm working my instrument. I'm on the stage. I am
not going to fail my moments.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Period, clock it, clock it.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
Speaking of Skyhold, speaking of Scary Movie six, Yes, have
y'all started filming?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
No, we start filming. Uh, I'm going to uh London
to promote him. And then I got a gig in
San Jose. And then October first, we on the set
of in Living Color.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
So I mean of.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Scary No, Scary Move six, Scary Move six.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
So we start that.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
When we got and uh his back, Anna Faris, Regina Hall,
were bringing everybody back and man, I'm telling you this
movie script is funny and we're gonna knock this out the.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Parking a living No. No, I would you said, y'all
was doing something with Wayne's brothers, like a show. I
ain't announcing it yet, but you know, but we we're
investigating doing all this stuff. No watch, and then we
did Scary Movie six.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I ain't lying, y'all held us down because I remember
your publicist. She was like, I'll make sure that she
made sure we had all the information. So whatever you're
working on with your brothers, yes, we would love to
also be the home where the world.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
I will let you all know. I will come here
the second after. Here's the thing. I love the old heads,
but man, somebody I'll come here first. Man, I was
I wonder to know if I could audition for scary movies.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Girl, we don't cast it. I would love to have
had you in there because okay, well let me think, man,
you can die. Of course everybody asked me to be
and I'm killing her. Everybody dying, everybody dying. You know,
when we do Scary Movie seven, I got you, and
I can write something funny and be like, hey, what's
(44:06):
something that you could do?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I would like, I like taill them making suits, So
what do you like to do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
It's like Kyle was like, yo, put me in. I
was like, all right, give me a second, and I'm
you know, I'm creating it. It's good, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
We're doing it. Should have been here last Sorry she
was having a baby.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Can she breastfeed her baby on camera? Baby milk?
Speaker 4 (44:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, I got two more clues. What's the line? Can
you do be acting? Oh?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Because I thought it was only fan thing I saw,
I was like, oh that's a part, that's the part.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, you were doing it too, Okay, okay, know that
that's how I see how you got that baby.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
What's the line between being a hero and a villain?
From Isaiah's perspective.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I think and in his eyes he is the hero.
From an ego perspective, he's not the villain. He's the
hero and he ain't gonna let nobody. In his eyes,
Cam is the villain. He's trying to take my spot
and I'm not gonna let it happen. I sacrifice everything
to get here. You don't deserve what I got. And
so it was dark thinking. A lot of Isaiah is
(45:23):
dark thinking, very negative, very arrogant, you know, full of himself.
And so that's just the way I approached it, you know, pective.
I like to live a humble life, but I think
you got to be humble as a person in a
shark when it comes to your business, when it comes
to your your your you're dying thirst to get things done.
(45:46):
I don't sit there and wait on things to get done.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm a killer.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I am. There's a I read the book by Tim Groven, Relentless.
There's coolers, closers, and cleaners, Tim Groven Grover. He was
Michael Jordan's trainer, Kobe Bryant's trainer, Dwayne Wage's trainer.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I want to be a cleaner. I want give me
the ball. I know what to do it. Just give
me the ball.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
If I practice enough that I own the right, give
me the ball. I'll know what to do with it.
It may be it passed, it may be a three
point zero. I may drive and get fouled and go
to that free throw line. And I'm an eighty five
percent shooter, and I'm gonna make it happen. If I'm
double teamed, I know the dish. It often give me
the ball. That's where I'm at in my career right now.
These I'm waiting on parts. I know my next seven
(46:33):
movies that I have that I want to develop, two
that I have written, one that's almost being set up.
I want to, you know, do a romantic buddy comedy
I got. I'm set up right now for me and
Kicky Palmer, like I see it. I see it in
ways that I don't know if anybody else has had.
Like a lot of my peers, I love him to
(46:53):
death and they brilliant.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I think I'm the.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Only one that's been writing movies since I was nineteen
years old in producing movies, and now as a star,
I get to write and produce movies for myself and
then look at scripts in a different way, like, oh,
here's how we can make that better.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'm just in a zone. Everything moves in slow motion.
I see air.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
What now you're supposed to say, Hey, can I be
in those movies?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
That was a good kid.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But you know what I would tell you, you funny,
you should be writing and developing movies on your off time.
That's what you should be doing. You gotta because you
on stage right, you're doing You're still doing your stand up.
Don't you feel the growth.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
When you do stand up?
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Like, oh, I'm that dude, Because ain't nothing better than bombing.
When you feel that cold air of a bomb, Like
you throw a joke out there and it just hang
there and you get a oh, yeah, and you feel
that Despininity're like, I'm a double down.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Now I gonna double down. And that's how you get
the better joke. You keep digging. You can't be afraid
of silence. But you should be writing, producing, studying, because
after this, what do you do? Or you could do
it both? See nowadays you can do it all.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Look at you writing books and you know you selling
houses and doing all kinds of stuff, and everybody, we all.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Are all the industry. We have learned that we are
not just a part of the industry. We are industry.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
My last question, yes, but I just almost took my
draws off and threw them at the crowd.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
When it comes to your personal life, how close to
the role of Isaiah was it balancing showing somebody at
the top of their game but also being at a
breaking being, being at a breaking point? What do you
mean somebody was at the top of his game, but
he was also at a breaking point. Have you ever
felt like that in your own life? No, even with
(48:55):
all the grief and everything.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
There's a synapse, right that these all these things that happened,
I think a breaking point was physically, mentally emotionally, Oh man,
I think three years ago, I was at a breaking point,
and that's why I stressed mental health, right. I wear
this mental health awareness thing to remind myself, you know,
(49:17):
as a black man, you have to take care of
your mental health. You because I got there. I seen
myself tossing myself off of a building. That happened to
me twice, because that was everything was hitting me at
one time, and so much pain when my mama died
and my daddy died and then my daughter transitioning. At
(49:40):
that point, there was just so much devastation happening that
I just felt like I can't take it. And that's
when I called my two therapists. And that's the thing
about therapists. I have two therapists. I have a female
and a male, And because I want to make sure
that I govern both sides of myself, my.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Masculine self, my feminine self that could listen and the
women when they have you know, and sometimes you need
a woman's voice.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
And it's funny, my female therapist protects my masculinity more
than my male therapist and supports it. So I think
it's important to have therapy and to have God. Those
three things and a great sense of humor. Those three
things have gotten me through. And you know God is
so real. You ain't found God until you heard never
(50:23):
would have made and you crying in the car, and
you crying in the car with the snop bubbling, your
nose shaking, going yes, I never would.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Have made it with our God. I never would have
made it. God is good. There you go, Malloweyen's ladies.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Absolutely, man, make sure y'all see him this Friday. This Friday,
s Harry movie six next summer.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yes, sir, Sary movie six next summer.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Make sure you mallowayns dot com get your merch and
go get these wonderful lee got your Dente cigars.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I'm telling you right now, they're ahead. I love y'all, man,
and I want to thank you.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Guys for always support me making this home and that, uh,
you know, y'all know me a long time, and you
know y'all see me do the work, and I see
y'all do the work.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
And just know what I root for y'all every every
step of the way. And you know we ain't done.
We all just beginning.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
And I just want to say one of the last
thing we appreciate you, Marlin, is the one for people
out there listening that if you're going through something, if
there's a problem, he'll text you to check on you.
There's not too many people in the industry do that.
We see so many people come and go all the time.
But he will check on you. Yes, and appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yes, I appreciate you. It's the breakfast morning, every day,
breakfast club.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Finish, y'all done it.
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