September 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Bobbi Brown Talks New Memoir 'Still Bobbi', Jones Road Beauty, Entrepreneurship, Motherhood. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Up, Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all, dump morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Lorosa is here as well,
and we got a.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Special guest in the building, the legend Bobby Brown.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, listen, which one now? I gotta tell me which one?
This is not new edition Boston, my prerogative, Bobby Brown.
This is Bobby Brown, makeup artists, entrepreneur, owner of Bobby
Brown Cosmetics and more. She has a new book out
right now called Still Bobby.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, hold on now. Bobby Brown Cosmetics was old?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh yeah, that was That was the first one. Jones
Road is the new one.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I love that you have Jones Road. I'm gonna just
let you know right now. I hope this is not
of thing you I thought you were black. I ain't
gonna lie to you because you're Bobby Browne. It's so
good for my skin, our skin, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, and usually you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Know, you know, we only we're the only ones who
know our skin.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But it's like, baby, Bobby, I'm you know, my background
as I'm a makeup artist. I spent my life doing makeup,
and I had this crazy idea that you should put
a foundation on that's the exact color of your skin.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The skin stick, the correct man everything that the foundation
with the sunscreen, the SBF.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, Jones Road is even better. Jones is even better.
But you know, I've I've I've done so many, so
many different makeups, so many celebrities, so many women, and
you know, it took a while to kind of teach
women that you just want to look good, you want
to look like yourself. I mean I used to do
with In Houston's makeup. She did not like the makeup
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to look natural. She wanted a lighter foundation, and I
used to fight, I'm like, you can't.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's got to match your skin, especially under them lights.
So thank you, miss.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm great. I'm great.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I want people to buy the book still, Bobby, but
I do want you to give them a little bit
of your history.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Like you started as a makeup artist.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
How does the makeup artist go from that to creating
her first billion dollar brand?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Bobby brant Well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was a makeup artist that when I started in the eighties,
it was all really artificial makeup and just really not attractive,
and I started doing makeup a different way. But the
makeup on the market sucks. It was not good. I
used to have to fix everything. And one day I
met a chemist and I said, hey, I've always wanted
to make this lipstick, and he's like, I can make
it for you. So we made it, and I said,
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I bet I could sell this, you know, And then
I thought about ten colors and I made it and
I started selling out of my house, you know, when
I had my first baby and my hometown of Montclair,
New Jersey, and I would be going into the city
to do fashion and Vogue and all that stuff. And
then it just kind of grew from there. And one
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day I met someone and I talked to everybody because
I think most people are nice and interesting, and I said,
what do you do? She said, I'm a cosmetics buyer
at Burgdorf Goodman. I'm like, oh, I have this line
of makeup. I'm more. And I got into Bergdorf Goodman
didn't shop there at the time. Wow, But I sold
the makeup there and the rest is history. And then
(03:09):
we sold the company to Esti Lauder after four and
a half years.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Now, I don't want to give too much away, but
just break down the details of that situation.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, after four and a half years, we sold to
STI Lauder. I stayed as an corporate employee twenty two years.
You could read the book, you could text me afterwards
and ask me other questions. But you know, so that
was the first brand. And then I you know, while
I was I think the only reason I was able
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to stay in corporate America because I am the least
corporate person you have ever met. I don't break the rules.
I just make up my own is. I used to
do all these cool things on the side. I was
an an entrepreneur, you know, so I did a lot
of different projects and you know, became a on Elvis Duran.
I became the beauty editor of Elvis Duran and Elves. Yeah,
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and uh, you know, by the way, that's how I
met Charlemagne. I was lucky enough to sit next to
him at a wedding, Elvis's wedding, yeah, which I guess
is like six years. I think he just celebrated. I
think so something something like that, and you know, and
I just liked this guy, and I'm like, let's have
dinner and he's like, all right, great, and we made
dinner plans and the rest is his.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, what foundation.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, he's got such beautiful skin. He doesn't wear any that's.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
His secrets of his which you would would would be
the shade back then.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Did you know him before that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I did, I did not. I did not, But I
love that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You had a nod compete for twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Five twenty five years. And so when we sold the company,
I was thirty four. And when my husband said we
got this non compete, I mean I always got ds
in math that I'm very proud of. To be successful,
you know, and not be good in school, I think
is something to consider. But I counted on my fingers.
I said, well, I'll be sick in my sixties. I'm
not going to want to work when I'm in my sixties.
(05:02):
Fast forward, I'm sixty eight right now. So I started
this company really good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean that, you know why, because I don't shoot
anything in my face? Okay, I'm shocked, you look really
really honestly, it's the truth, I think. But I'm also
into health and wellness and fitness, and you know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So let me ask you about that, because it seems
like that's the new trend now. If you watch any
show on television, it's all about lip fillers and fillers
and botox and this talks and net talks and detox
and red talks. What do you think about someone that's.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I don't like it. I don't like I don't like
any of it. I don't I don't feel it looks natural.
I don't think it looks good. And I think you know,
the important thing is how you feel and your lifestyle choices.
I mean, I like to have fun like everyone, but
I know how to balance and I know what to
do to make me feel better. And when I look bad,
I don't run to the doctor to say fix me up.
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I look at myself in the mirror and say, what
have you been doing that's not working? And change it?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Wow, So how do you implement?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She cut her off? She was a grown woman, and
you launched another brand?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh yeah, I launched another brand when the day my
non compete was out, and which was literally a week
before the presidential election. You remember that time, in the
middle of the pandemic. I just flicked the light up
and did three things and we launched the brand. Didn't
know what was going to happen and this we're celebrating
five years amazing. It's yeah, it's been amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Now George rod Is a billion is like I got
to buy this one now too, right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Something we're not for sale.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I forget what I was.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I guess now that we're here in that part of
your journey, like business wise, like what are your go to?
Like here's what I always rule of thumbs and business
because you make it just seems so effortless, like oh
I met a woman at Berdiff Goodman and boom, we're
in the store. I know it's not but in not
giving away too much from the book, but like, what
are those things that you kept very near and dear
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to your chest?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It honestly you do every time, honestly, Like it's common sense.
It's just doing things the way you do things. And
it's doing things the way you know my parents taught me,
you know my grandparents, Like I grew up with this
loving family, complicated but loving and but they were you know,
everyone worked really hard, everyone worked really hard. Everyone had
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to be nice. You had to be nice. You just
there was no excuse not to be nice, and you
had to you know, be a little creative with your thinking,
and when things didn't work, you're like, all right, that
didn't work, let me do something else. That's how I
lead business is like the same way I would lead
my life. And I'm like right to the point, like
I don't I don't mess around. I don't like when
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people are like talking about what they should do and
how and strategizing. I've already done it. Yeah, I've already
done it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Now how do you work with I know your son
is the CEO of your company. A lot of people say,
you know what, I don't want my family part of
the companies because family usually mess things up. You can't
talk the family. But you took a different route, So
break that down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I did not choose to work with my family and
my I. You know, my husband and I. I've always
done everything with my husband. But our kids were not
interested three boys, none of them were interested in beauty
or business really, and it just kind of happened. Our
second son, Cody, who I named Dakota, which I thought
was the coolest name. But he's Cody. He came to
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work with us on some growth things. He knows a
lot about digital marketing, he's he's now people meet us
and they're like, oh my god, your son is the
you know, is the guy. I'm like, yeah, I'm so
proud of that. But so he started helping and we
had to see a coeo, we had a president. One
by one, Cody started doing their jobs and so it's
like it's it seems like the more we get rid
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of people, the better our team is. It's about having
like your community, your posse, and putting your heads together
and figuring out what to do. And he's been incredible.
I mean, he's just been incredible, and it's not the
easiest thing working with the family.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
On top of that, my head of brand is his wife,
which is amazing, and she's a very beautiful, tough, smart woman.
And they have my two grandkids. So I've learned, you know,
the most important thing in my life is not to
piss them off, because I want to see those grand
kids every single day.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
How has motherhood influenced your philosophy and business our beauty?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, the greatest thing about being a woman and
being a mother is we know how to multitask. If
I ask my husband or my chiropractor, any guy a question,
they stop what they're doing and answer you women, you
ask a question. You know, we're on the phone, we're
getting her nails done, we're chopping vegetables. So it's you know,
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I just think being a mom, I have figured things out,
you know, how to get the kids ready for all
the things. I mean, you tell me, how's it like,
you know, having four daughters and watching your success and
how do you fit it all in? Well, I know
how you fit it in. You the best wife.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Give her all the credit. I'm just here, like she handles,
she's the CEO of the household. Yeah, and she makes
our lives that much easier.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And she just loves you, man, she does you know.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So if I told my daughter that last name, my
ten year old, I was like, this is the most
important woman in all life. Then my wife goes, I right,
stop gassing it up, and I'm like, who else would
it be?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's not you? And I really feel that way.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it's evident.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You dedicated your book to your husband.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He is the light of my life. He's amazing. And
by the way, we've been married thirty seven years. It's
not easy, guys, nothing's easy, right, Is there anything easy
in this world? Nothing's easy. I work really hard.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know, how is the impacted that that journey, you know,
between you know, the woman you are, your professionalism, business owner,
all of that house. He impacted that.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
He's look, I can't do anything without him, because I'm
the one that's like, oh my god, how am I
going to do this? I'm only four hours sleep I
just got back for and he's like, come down, come down, breathe.
That was what he said to me on my way
out of the door this morning, he said, breathe. I don't.
I didn't. That was my first Poe.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Was there anything you discovered about yourself?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
You know, maybe something that even surprised you in the
process of writing this book reflecting on your journey?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Actually yes, and I suggest everyone writes a memoir at
some time in their life, even if it's not to
be published, because it's very cathartic. You know. It's not
like being in therapy where you discuss things. But when
people ask you questions and you're talking about your journey,
you start to tie things together. And I realized how
watching Papa Sam and his car business, who came from
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another country, you know, watching my dad kind of go
through different. He was a lawyer, but then he kept
hating it and doing other things and then coming back
to it because that's what paid the bills. I realized
some of my entrepreneurial spirit is from watching all my
family members.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
The girls who are like starting today where they're not
doing like magazines because everything's digital and they're trying to
grow their brains like physical products. What do you advise
them to do because everybody's online with a product now right.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, you just you know, I have a lot of
you know, female founder friends and male founder friends, and
I help them all and I tell them the same
thing my husband tells me is breathe first of all,
and just keep doing it. You just gotta like how
do you start? You just start, and you just keep
doing it. Put a post up if it didn't work,
figure out what are you going to do next? And
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you know, and meet people, you know, get out there
and meet people.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I was going to ask, you know, why is it
so important to you to document a lot of this,
this is your tenth book, like to share a lot
of knowledge. Why is that important to you?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well? I think somehow, you know, all I wanted to
do when I was a kid, was be a teacher
and a mother, So I'm kind of both, right. I mean,
I'm a mother, I'm definitely a teacher. I like I
like to learn. I'm like I'm like notorious for like
wanting to try new things and learn new things. I
like to around myself with really smart people to teach
me things. But I also like to surround myself with
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young people that I would like to teach certain things.
You know, how you can have And I'm hoping this
book is going to serve as you know, many different
things for people, but for young for a young person
to read and say, wow, you can do these things,
and you know you don't have to do everything so well.
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I don't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I want to ask you know, we see it here
a lot of people all the time, women and men
that's trying to create their own company, right, their own
lipstick line, their own hair line, and it's very difficult. Right,
what would you tell that young entrepreneur that's trying to
break through the doors and they're having a problems. Target
won't take their calls, Bloomingdale's won't take their calls, Macy's
tells them no, or they don't have enough stop what
do you tell that young entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, first of all, I tell everyone, try to work
for someone first. Try to spend a year, and you know,
just think of it as being in school. Go work
for a company that you admire. I don't care if
you have to be the receptionist or social media manager.
Just see how things are. And when you're ready to
launch your own business, don't don't overinvest, because then you're
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going to be stuck. People think it takes a lot
of money, And do it really slow and make sure
what you're doing is different than what's on the market.
And if you don't know if it's gonna work, just
make a couple things figure out. You know. People come
to me with these big decks and they're the most
beautiful decks and like, oh, this sounds amazing. Can I
try the product? Well I don't have the product. Well,
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how do you know it's going to work? I mean,
you know, I had this one girl with a Harvard
degree come to me with this beautiful deck. I said, right,
let me try it. She was a woman of color.
She wanted to make this special sun screen that looked
she didn't even know where the lab was. I'm like,
how could you do all this until you actually know
the product works, and you know when you do have
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one that you think is great, put it in little
containers and start giving it to all your friends. If
they like it, then give it to other people. Like,
just start slow. You don't need like people think you
need it all figured out.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I want to say, this is a woman who's been
two billion dollar brands telling y'all it is okay to
have a job.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, said worked for years.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So I'm saying, but most people will be like, we haven't.
We know a lot of entrepreneurs that no, I no,
I don't want to have a job. You shouldn't have
a boss.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah. First of all, you got to learn things like
arriving on time, saying hello, or if you're late, calling
and saying I'm so sorry I'm late. How do you
learn those things? And you also have to figure out
how you can work with other people, and so you
know it's okay to work with people that you don't
like because you have to learn how to do it.
Like all these things in life, we're learning things.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I was gonna ask with makeup, it seems like it's
a it's a difficult industry, right, And the reason I
say that is like the red lipstick, right, Charlemagne puts
it on his lips and he might have a reaction
to it. That's a fantasy or you know something like that.
You never know what product works with somebody's skin. How
do you go around that to make sure something can
work for I guess everybody? Or do you say I'm
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looking for a particular market and I'm going to focus
for that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know, either one of those work, it doesn't really matter.
I mean, Jones Road is a clean makeup brand, so
I know people are not going to have problems with it.
You know. I also know the only people that aren't
going to like Jones Road are people that like artificial makeup.
If you like artificial makeup and want to look like that,
there's other brands for you. So I don't have to
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be everything for everybody, but you know what I want.
It's you know why Jones Road. I think one of
the reasons why it's successful is because it's what I
believe in, which is makeup that when you put it on,
you just look better and you don't know why, because
it's almost like magic. You're like, oh my god, what happened?
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Because it looks like you. You look less tired, your
skin looks more even, it looks fresh. But that's my aesthetic.
It's not every makeup founder's aesthetic. And my biggest warning
to people that want to start their own brand is
don't just go out there and do what other people
are doing. It's you got to have a point of
difference or you're just gonna sit there and you're gonna
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invest too much money. You're gonna borrow from everyone you know,
and then you're gonna be like, well, this don't work.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I saw your your master class and most people hear.
And you want to be a teacher, makes a lot
of sense most people who teach. While teaching, you're still
learning a lot from other people. What are you still
learning today with all the this success?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh my god, I'm learning so much. First of all,
I'm you know, I'm learning a lot. I'm learning. I'm
learning how to hip hop. That's, you know, the most
important thing which I need some help with. I love.
There's nothing I like better in life than dancing. And
I'm have you ever seen a Jewish girl dance?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
It's not but I do it anyway about the dance, huh,
I thought you were getting up the dance.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
No, but that's how I wake up every day. As
I put I followed this guy in the UK who's
a hip hop dancer and I and it just gets
my brain going in the morning. But that, I know,
that wasn't the question. What was the question? Please?
Speaker 6 (17:59):
What are you still learning in today? Like you with
all your success?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean just trying new things and just being
curious and you never you never know who you're gonna
meet and what interesting thing is going to happen because
of it.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You don't say learning how to hip hop, I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Learning how to dance.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. It's like the stuff I say to my husband
about golf. I'm you know something, Oh you're playing whatever
I say, it's never the right thing about golf.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I wanted to go back to your artificial What is
the difference and does that affect skin?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Because my daughters danced, Yeah, and they have to wear makeup,
oh yes, you know, because it's hair back. And I
always wonder will that makeup that they put on affect
them later on?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
As long as they wash their face before they go
to bed. Most of the time, if they miss it
a day or two they're gonna be fine. But no,
as long as you take care of your skin, then
you're gonna be fine. And it's not even the makeup
on your skin that makes problems.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's like you see people with the creatives sometimes. I
always wonder if that's like an effect of makeup that too.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, no, I think look at your head.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
No, I'm saying that.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
If your hair is dirty and touches your face, yeah, you've.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Got to You've got to clean yourself. But you also
have to really realize so much of skin. You know,
skin's an organ. It's the food you put in your body.
And if you're eating junk food all day long, every day,
you're gonna look like junk.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
What about fried chicken, Bobby? You know what just do?
First of all, I also went back to school got
my degree as a health coach. So fried chicken, French fries,
those things that taste good, just do less of it.
Just don't have it as your everyday diet unless you
don't care about how you feel. I mean, maybe you
feel good. I don't know. I don't feel good when
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I eat junky food.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
You know, that's interesting to hear you talk about going
back to school because a lot of a lot of entrepreneurs,
especially in the beauty space too, will say they don't
do school because it doesn't like nothing creative comes out
of being in college, of being in a classroom.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
A lot of people feel like that as well.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I went to my third college, which was Emerson College
in Boston. I went because I wanted to study theatrical makeup.
They let me. They didn't have a course. They let
me make up my own course. Well, I didn't know
the word entrepreneur back then. I still don't know how
to spell it, by the way, but they let me
make it up. So I learned how to kind of
craft my own road by going to school. So I
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have a degree in theatrical makeup.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
The thing I love about still Bobby the most is
like it just shows how rooted and family you are.
And when you think about the two major brands that
you've built and you raised a family, what was some
of the hardest trade offs you had to make?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It was tough. I mean, you know, I when you
commit to a certain trip, if something comes up, I
couldn't cancel it, you know. I once was supposed to
do like this big fashion show, and I said yes
to it. It was confirmed, and then my kids and
my husband said they're gone skiing. Whatever break it was,
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I canceled the fashion show and guess what, they never
hired me again. Opes. Oh well, so every year I
made sure I went to the principal the first day's
school with lip glosses, say hi, you know, here's some
a gift for you. Could you please tell me what
are the dates?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
When is the school sing along? When's you know, the
teachers conferences? Because I wanted to be there and I
put them in my calendar, so I blocked those out
and I never missed one. I think I missed one
out of all the years of the three kids one
of their singalongs. And my kids are wonderful, but they
got no talent. But I was at every sing along.
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None of them could sing, none of them could dance,
but I was.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
There looking back, Would you change how you balanced those roles?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I got really lucky. I really did put my family first.
And you know, my kids might say I wasn't there
all the time, but for a working mom, I was there.
I was the class mom almost every year for at
least one of them. You know, and it was so
stressful for me because I don't know how to type.
And how could you be a class mom and not
know how to type. I don't know how to type.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
What would you say to women who feel like they
can't have it all, like they can't balance it all?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You do what you can. I mean, I got better
as I got older, Like I was not this Bobby
Brown when I was a thirty year old, you know,
worker or mom. I got better and I just learned.
I like hacked my life. I just, you know, I
hacked my life things that were stressful, like you know,
realizing your kid is a birthday party on a Saturday
(22:30):
and you didn't buy a gift and you run out
you buy a gift and then you come home and
you got to wrap it and you gotta get the
kid ready. I'm like, this is stupid. I went to
the local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for ten
and twenty dollars, and every time they had a birthday party,
I just threw a couple in an envelope like I'm done.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I've been doing that one, I know, but I
didn't think of that. That's an easy one. Yeah, A
bunch of GI certificates. Go ahead, every one.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We yeah, six six kads?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah it Me and my wife got six wow, married
twenty four years, Yeah, six kids. Logan's number two. Madison
is old.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Didn't know you guys were married.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, she has a Mexican I don't have a Mexican.
Mexican crazy. We have two kids, and I'm going to
get my wife of six.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And you have four.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And I'm showing ask you that question because that's what
I'm trying to do now, trying to balance, you know,
the work, the mom life, everything I have going on.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Don't worry when your kids are out of the house.
She'll have it together, okay, And you know what, so
what you don't have it together? I remember, you know,
and I had to be a corporate person and dress
up and show up like, you know, like I was
Melanie Griffith and working girl. You know, I didn't know anything.
And I'll never forget. Tina Brown, who was this big
editor in chief, was on stage once and someone asked
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her how she did it. She goes, oh my god,
it was a ship show. It was always a mess.
I always forgot things, and that just gave me permission
to be like, yeah, to be real, Like that's my advice.
Be real, Yes, it's sometimes it's a shit show. And
tell your boss if you're gonna be late, tell them
if there's a reason you're not your best self, maybe
the kid didn't sleep all night, whatever it is. Yeah,
(24:14):
you know, yeah, be real and don't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
How important is people knowing Bobby Brown the person to
Bobby Brown the brand.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, I think people get confused. They think I am
still with the brand and I am not. The book
tells the whole story. And yeah, it was hard. You know,
I don't own my name, so I can't just you know,
slap my name on things or use it the way
I want. But it's okay. You know, I've been able
to my husband and I have probably sent twenty twenty
five kids to college, so it's it's okay. I'm glad,
(24:46):
you know, I'm at peace with it. And Jones Road,
you know, just came. I found it on Ways when
I was given my husband direction, and I'm like, oh,
that sounds like a cool name.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But I feel like Bobby bron the person is the brand.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
There, Bobby Brown the person is the Jones Road brand. Yeah,
it's not. I know it's complicated, right, it's complicated. But
you know, there's Calvin Klein, there's HARMANI, there's all you know,
Donna Karen. So it's you know, it is the way
of the world. But you know, yeah, I Bobby Brown.
(25:21):
I mean, who knew people were brands, but we are apparently.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I was alway Jones Road.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The significance behind that is just you just saw it
on Wait.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, my husband said, if I didn't have a name
by Monday. It was a Friday. We were driving to
the Hampton's and my husband always has me look at
ways and Google Maps because god forbid, we're five minutes late,
even though we have nowhere to go. So my head
was down and I saw Jones Road and I said,
Jones Road. Makeup Instantly, I thought it sounded like a
British bespoke, you know brand, And I thought, oh, that's
(25:52):
a cool name. And I can't use Brown, I might
as well use Jones. So he said I like it,
and it was available, and that's how it became Jones Road.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Why don't you believe in contoorn.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Because what's wrong with your face? Then you need to contour.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I think when you contour, it just gives you like this,
like slim like pool together. Like I see the difference
in photos when I contour when I don't. My face
is fire either way, but I do see. But I
do see the difference.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
A lot of people that contour. First of all, it
makes them think there's something wrong with their face. Contour
is when you put something dark to make it recede.
Like I like to contour my stomach. I'm sorry, put
something nice and tight on. I will contour that all day.
But my face, well first, so I don't. I don't
have a lot of fat in my face, so I
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like to use blush to make my face look a
little bit fuller. And I don't know. I think people
are beautiful as they are. They don't need to change
the shape of their nose.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Oh that's the thing where I see online where they
put the dog online.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And make the.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Cheeks too.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And you know you didn't have to get a those job.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I did not get a noose jobs. If he did
tell her what happened to no, I did not. I
was ignoring a lot. So when I went to the doctor,
they removed the polyps. That was it. There was no
nose job. It's the same nose, Flimmers.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm not judging fixed.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You have a beautiful nose.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
He does eyebrows though, you see that way You never
did you eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
In high school.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
With me being an adult and you know, guys are
allowed to groom. Guys are allowed to groom. It's not
a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, what was the most difficult memory our chapter for
you to revisit while he was writing?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know, it's really funny because I had a you know,
it's an audible book too right now, So I had
to I had to read it and I cried once.
And it was talking about my mother in law that
I just adored her, and I just you know, the
hard part, the hard weird thing is all the people
that were my family are not alive anymore, right, like
my original Chicago family. I mean, my dad is ninety
(27:59):
right now and he's still there, but he's only one.
You know. I lost a brother, I lost a mom,
I lost my grandparents, you know. And it's like and
my ninety four year old aunt Dallas is still there,
sharp as attack. She has a boyfriend who's ninety five. Wow,
and she's interviewing me on stage in Chicago when I
come there at her retirement community. Wow, that's what I'm
(28:21):
excited about this book tour. When are you going to
Chicago October tenth or something?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
How did that make you look at your own mortality?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You know? I look, it's weird because I know, you know,
my parents were twenty and twenty one when I was born,
So I'm like, I'm just twenty years to go, right,
I mean, it's like, you know, I hope to live
over ninety. But it's like shit, you know sixty eight guys,
like it's totally young. Keep learning hip path.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, it takes me years off.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna text Flo Rider to come
DJ my birthday and Floriade's if they today. Actually, I
can't believe it. I hoped. My One of my best
memories of my life is hop it on stage with
Flow Rider made he put his chains on me and
I Also I also hopped on stage with Salt and Pepper.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh yeah, so you did the Apple bottom Jean, you
did all that. You did push it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
No, we didn't do push it. We did get low.
I got low with Flow. Well, you know, my dad's
name is James Brown. So when you meet my dad,
you'd be like, James Brown is like, yeah, I feel good.
How are you saying that for ninety years?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
James to great.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Part one of your book is now where You're from?
Talking about your family, and then you go into your
nana and your papa. Right, Why why is knowing where
you're from? Or how has that been so important in
every brain you've created?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Because it's who I am? Right, it's you know, being
from Chicago has made me like a much I think,
a much more like stable person with my feet in
the ground, you know. I know Charlemagne talks about where
he comes from. I just think it's important. And by
the way, some people say my childhood was complicated, and
(30:12):
I don't look at it that way. I mean things happened,
and I moved around it, and I you know, I
take the good stuff and I don't blame anyone for anything, right.
I mean my mother there's a story in the book
where she told me I was really pretty and I said,
thank you. She said, but you'd be gorgeous if you
had your nose fixed, and I didn't clearly, and I
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just it didn't define me, but it did push me
to help people appreciate who they are.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Oh so that that that's what steers you away from
the contour.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think yeah, I think so. And you know, every
time I'd go to Asia and I would tell the
women they're beautiful, they would just say, oh no, my
eyes are this and my feet and I'm like no.
And you know, in women of color, it's like, guys,
you have this beauty that we don't have, like, appreciate it,
your skin color, your features, everything. And you know, to
my fellow friends with lips small, you know that match
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their faces, leave those things alone.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right, Like people look so stupid with them their lips.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Who if you get it's just it doesn't work even
when you just I'm just gonna do a teeny bit. No,
you look like a duck.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How do you define authenticity?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
But just be yourself, be real, Just be yourself, be real.
And all of a sudden, now it's a trend. Being
authentic as a trend.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Okay, great, has your definition of authenticity I've a shifted
over time?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
No, I think I think I've gotten much more comfortable
with who I am. And that's that's a good part
about getting older. You're like, you realize I tried on
everyone else and it didn't work right.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
I was gonna ask about your light weight makeup approach,
like that's like your your calling card. How do you
deal with people who are on the other side that
feel like lightweight makeup isn't as substantial or doesn't show
up the best.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I like when people are complaining that things are so.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Late, it's fine, stop complaining, go use something else. It's fine. Yeah.
I mean there's you know, like not everything works for everybody,
and that's okay.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
You have such a simple approach to everything.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Everything is.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Yeah, it seems so like to get to where you
are and what you do, especially with product you it
feels so heavy when you're trying to do it, but
you were sitting here just like no, well first.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Of all, and also don't forget about your people around you.
Ask their opinion. Do you like this? Like that's how
I started. I had these little you know, I made
Miracle Balm. I didn't know it was going to be
this big company. It was during the pandemic. I put
it in little things and I sent it to all
my friends and they would call me up and say,
what is this? I need more? And it was during
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the pandemic. They would call and say, all right, I
need more. I'm coming to your house. But they would
stand outside and I'd have to throw it from from
my you know, porch to them, and I knew I
had something. But that's how I started my market research.
I didn't hire a market research company. I just asked people.
And when I made my first lipstix years ago, I
would go to the park and the nannies were from
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all over the world. They had all different coloring and
all different color lips. They would try things and I
would see how it looked on them. That was another
focus group. Mmmm, it's just common sense.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
What do you hope readers take away from still Bobby?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You know, I hope it gives them encouragement to, you know,
to live their life their way and you know, and
and it's not as difficult as you make it. Yeah,
and just be be naive, be positive, and you know,
just work hard and keep at it and just be nice.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I noticed just the first week of a book.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
But now that you shared this memoir, what's next, Like,
what are you excited to accomplish or create moving forward?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Not even just in the beauty world, just life.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know, I try, I try things, like I did
a you know, a series on YouTube that I can't
seem to get enough eyeballs on called I Am Me,
which I interview all these really cool women. You know,
I don't know how to get more eyeballs on it,
but that's fun. You know. It was sponsored by JP Morgan,
which is cool, and I'm like, all right, I'll just
keep trying stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I had a podcast with iHeart. It was cool. It
was fun, don't you know. I'm like, I don't know,
maybe I'll do something else. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You get eyeballs on it by going on Mail show.
You go on Mail Robins Show and you tell everybody.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You had.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yes, all right, well that's on my list. I
have her and I have one other one and then
I'm good, okay, yeah, and I'm good. I wanted this
was on my list. So thank you for this. And
by the way, when I became Time one hundred this
year and ready to thank you, and they said, we're
going to reach out to someone you know, who would
you like to write this thing? And they said we
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need five people, and I ranked them and number one said, yes,
it was Charlott Magne. But so I so there I
was walk in the red carpet. You know, Bobby look here, Bobby,
look here. People didn't say how do you feel about this?
You know what they said to me? How do you know, Charlemagne?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How did you get.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Them to do that? Really?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
No, I love Bobby and I love her husband, Steven.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
And the thing I like that you bring people together,
like you know that that dinner you had with all
these different people walk their life to math class and
just making.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Everybody like Salmon Rushty was at that dinner. I'm like,
I'm sitting there with like Charlemagne and Salmon Rushty, you know,
and Don Garber, the Major League Soccer czar.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Because it's amazing conversation. Everybody, you know, put their phones
down and just talk. And I just think that does
so much. And bringing people together, man, And I think
we need those kind of safe spaces in this world
that we're in right now.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
That's what You're sit down conversations are like too. All
those people. I'm like, I've never would have even known
who these people were.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
People are interesting, by the way. I love people's stories.
And Jones Road just launched something called Beauty Stories because
I want to share people's beauty stories. You know, think
about your grandma, your mom, your aunt. Where did you
learn and what things kind of stay with you?
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Still, Bobby, A masterclass and leading and authentic life is
available everywhere you buy books right now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's right, so make sure you pick it up. And
we appreciate you for joining us absolutely and thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh my pleasure, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Bobby Brown. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, hold every
day up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
The Breakfast Club. You're finish for y'all done,
Every day.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Up, Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all, dump morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Lorosa is here as well,
and we got a.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Special guest in the building, the legend Bobby Brown.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, listen, which one now? I gotta tell me which one?
This is not new edition Boston, my prerogative, Bobby Brown.
This is Bobby Brown, makeup artists, entrepreneur, owner of Bobby
Brown Cosmetics and more. She has a new book out
right now called Still Bobby.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, hold on now. Bobby Brown Cosmetics was old?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh yeah, that was That was the first one. Jones
Road is the new one.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I love that you have Jones Road. I'm gonna just
let you know right now. I hope this is not
of thing you I thought you were black. I ain't
gonna lie to you because you're Bobby Browne. It's so
good for my skin, our skin, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, and usually you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Know, you know, we only we're the only ones who
know our skin.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But it's like, baby, Bobby, I'm you know, my background
as I'm a makeup artist. I spent my life doing makeup,
and I had this crazy idea that you should put
a foundation on that's the exact color of your skin.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The skin stick, the correct man everything that the foundation
with the sunscreen, the SBF.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, Jones Road is even better. Jones is even better.
But you know, I've I've I've done so many, so
many different makeups, so many celebrities, so many women, and
you know, it took a while to kind of teach
women that you just want to look good, you want
to look like yourself. I mean I used to do
with In Houston's makeup. She did not like the makeup
(01:37):
to look natural. She wanted a lighter foundation, and I
used to fight, I'm like, you can't.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's got to match your skin, especially under them lights.
So thank you, miss.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm great. I'm great.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I want people to buy the book still, Bobby, but
I do want you to give them a little bit
of your history.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Like you started as a makeup artist.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
How does the makeup artist go from that to creating
her first billion dollar brand?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Bobby brant Well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was a makeup artist that when I started in the eighties,
it was all really artificial makeup and just really not attractive,
and I started doing makeup a different way. But the
makeup on the market sucks. It was not good. I
used to have to fix everything. And one day I
met a chemist and I said, hey, I've always wanted
to make this lipstick, and he's like, I can make
it for you. So we made it, and I said,
(02:26):
I bet I could sell this, you know, And then
I thought about ten colors and I made it and
I started selling out of my house, you know, when
I had my first baby and my hometown of Montclair,
New Jersey, and I would be going into the city
to do fashion and Vogue and all that stuff. And
then it just kind of grew from there. And one
(02:47):
day I met someone and I talked to everybody because
I think most people are nice and interesting, and I said,
what do you do? She said, I'm a cosmetics buyer
at Burgdorf Goodman. I'm like, oh, I have this line
of makeup. I'm more. And I got into Bergdorf Goodman
didn't shop there at the time. Wow, But I sold
the makeup there and the rest is history. And then
(03:09):
we sold the company to Esti Lauder after four and
a half years.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Now, I don't want to give too much away, but
just break down the details of that situation.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, after four and a half years, we sold to
STI Lauder. I stayed as an corporate employee twenty two years.
You could read the book, you could text me afterwards
and ask me other questions. But you know, so that
was the first brand. And then I you know, while
I was I think the only reason I was able
(03:38):
to stay in corporate America because I am the least
corporate person you have ever met. I don't break the rules.
I just make up my own is. I used to
do all these cool things on the side. I was
an an entrepreneur, you know, so I did a lot
of different projects and you know, became a on Elvis Duran.
I became the beauty editor of Elvis Duran and Elves. Yeah,
(04:02):
and uh, you know, by the way, that's how I
met Charlemagne. I was lucky enough to sit next to
him at a wedding, Elvis's wedding, yeah, which I guess
is like six years. I think he just celebrated. I
think so something something like that, and you know, and
I just liked this guy, and I'm like, let's have
dinner and he's like, all right, great, and we made
dinner plans and the rest is his.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, what foundation.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, he's got such beautiful skin. He doesn't wear any that's.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
His secrets of his which you would would would be
the shade back then.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Did you know him before that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I did, I did not. I did not, But I
love that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You had a nod compete for twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Five twenty five years. And so when we sold the company,
I was thirty four. And when my husband said we
got this non compete, I mean I always got ds
in math that I'm very proud of. To be successful,
you know, and not be good in school, I think
is something to consider. But I counted on my fingers.
I said, well, I'll be sick in my sixties. I'm
not going to want to work when I'm in my sixties.
(05:02):
Fast forward, I'm sixty eight right now. So I started
this company really good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean that, you know why, because I don't shoot
anything in my face? Okay, I'm shocked, you look really
really honestly, it's the truth, I think. But I'm also
into health and wellness and fitness, and you know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So let me ask you about that, because it seems
like that's the new trend now. If you watch any
show on television, it's all about lip fillers and fillers
and botox and this talks and net talks and detox
and red talks. What do you think about someone that's.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I don't like it. I don't like I don't like
any of it. I don't I don't feel it looks natural.
I don't think it looks good. And I think you know,
the important thing is how you feel and your lifestyle choices.
I mean, I like to have fun like everyone, but
I know how to balance and I know what to
do to make me feel better. And when I look bad,
I don't run to the doctor to say fix me up.
(05:55):
I look at myself in the mirror and say, what
have you been doing that's not working? And change it?
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Wow, So how do you implement?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She cut her off? She was a grown woman, and
you launched another brand?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh yeah, I launched another brand when the day my
non compete was out, and which was literally a week
before the presidential election. You remember that time, in the
middle of the pandemic. I just flicked the light up
and did three things and we launched the brand. Didn't
know what was going to happen and this we're celebrating
five years amazing. It's yeah, it's been amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Now George rod Is a billion is like I got
to buy this one now too, right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Something we're not for sale.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I forget what I was.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I guess now that we're here in that part of
your journey, like business wise, like what are your go to?
Like here's what I always rule of thumbs and business
because you make it just seems so effortless, like oh
I met a woman at Berdiff Goodman and boom, we're
in the store. I know it's not but in not
giving away too much from the book, but like, what
are those things that you kept very near and dear
(07:00):
to your chest?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It honestly you do every time, honestly, Like it's common sense.
It's just doing things the way you do things. And
it's doing things the way you know my parents taught me,
you know my grandparents, Like I grew up with this
loving family, complicated but loving and but they were you know,
everyone worked really hard, everyone worked really hard. Everyone had
(07:21):
to be nice. You had to be nice. You just
there was no excuse not to be nice, and you
had to you know, be a little creative with your thinking,
and when things didn't work, you're like, all right, that
didn't work, let me do something else. That's how I
lead business is like the same way I would lead
my life. And I'm like right to the point, like
I don't I don't mess around. I don't like when
(07:43):
people are like talking about what they should do and
how and strategizing. I've already done it. Yeah, I've already
done it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Now how do you work with I know your son
is the CEO of your company. A lot of people say,
you know what, I don't want my family part of
the companies because family usually mess things up. You can't
talk the family. But you took a different route, So
break that down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I did not choose to work with my family and
my I. You know, my husband and I. I've always
done everything with my husband. But our kids were not
interested three boys, none of them were interested in beauty
or business really, and it just kind of happened. Our
second son, Cody, who I named Dakota, which I thought
was the coolest name. But he's Cody. He came to
(08:26):
work with us on some growth things. He knows a
lot about digital marketing, he's he's now people meet us
and they're like, oh my god, your son is the
you know, is the guy. I'm like, yeah, I'm so
proud of that. But so he started helping and we
had to see a coeo, we had a president. One
by one, Cody started doing their jobs and so it's
like it's it seems like the more we get rid
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of people, the better our team is. It's about having
like your community, your posse, and putting your heads together
and figuring out what to do. And he's been incredible.
I mean, he's just been incredible, and it's not the
easiest thing working with the family.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
On top of that, my head of brand is his wife,
which is amazing, and she's a very beautiful, tough, smart woman.
And they have my two grandkids. So I've learned, you know,
the most important thing in my life is not to
piss them off, because I want to see those grand
kids every single day.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
How has motherhood influenced your philosophy and business our beauty?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, the greatest thing about being a woman and
being a mother is we know how to multitask. If
I ask my husband or my chiropractor, any guy a question,
they stop what they're doing and answer you women, you
ask a question. You know, we're on the phone, we're
getting her nails done, we're chopping vegetables. So it's you know,
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I just think being a mom, I have figured things out,
you know, how to get the kids ready for all
the things. I mean, you tell me, how's it like,
you know, having four daughters and watching your success and
how do you fit it all in? Well, I know
how you fit it in. You the best wife.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Give her all the credit. I'm just here, like she handles,
she's the CEO of the household. Yeah, and she makes
our lives that much easier.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And she just loves you, man, she does you know.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So if I told my daughter that last name, my
ten year old, I was like, this is the most
important woman in all life. Then my wife goes, I right,
stop gassing it up, and I'm like, who else would
it be?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's not you? And I really feel that way.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it's evident.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You dedicated your book to your husband.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He is the light of my life. He's amazing. And
by the way, we've been married thirty seven years. It's
not easy, guys, nothing's easy, right, Is there anything easy
in this world? Nothing's easy. I work really hard.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know, how is the impacted that that journey, you know,
between you know, the woman you are, your professionalism, business owner,
all of that house. He impacted that.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
He's look, I can't do anything without him, because I'm
the one that's like, oh my god, how am I
going to do this? I'm only four hours sleep I
just got back for and he's like, come down, come down, breathe.
That was what he said to me on my way
out of the door this morning, he said, breathe. I don't.
I didn't. That was my first Poe.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Was there anything you discovered about yourself?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
You know, maybe something that even surprised you in the
process of writing this book reflecting on your journey?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Actually yes, and I suggest everyone writes a memoir at
some time in their life, even if it's not to
be published, because it's very cathartic. You know. It's not
like being in therapy where you discuss things. But when
people ask you questions and you're talking about your journey,
you start to tie things together. And I realized how
watching Papa Sam and his car business, who came from
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another country, you know, watching my dad kind of go
through different. He was a lawyer, but then he kept
hating it and doing other things and then coming back
to it because that's what paid the bills. I realized
some of my entrepreneurial spirit is from watching all my
family members.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
The girls who are like starting today where they're not
doing like magazines because everything's digital and they're trying to
grow their brains like physical products. What do you advise
them to do because everybody's online with a product now right.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, you just you know, I have a lot of
you know, female founder friends and male founder friends, and
I help them all and I tell them the same
thing my husband tells me is breathe first of all,
and just keep doing it. You just gotta like how
do you start? You just start, and you just keep
doing it. Put a post up if it didn't work,
figure out what are you going to do next? And
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you know, and meet people, you know, get out there
and meet people.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I was going to ask, you know, why is it
so important to you to document a lot of this,
this is your tenth book, like to share a lot
of knowledge. Why is that important to you?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well? I think somehow, you know, all I wanted to
do when I was a kid, was be a teacher
and a mother, So I'm kind of both, right. I mean,
I'm a mother, I'm definitely a teacher. I like I
like to learn. I'm like I'm like notorious for like
wanting to try new things and learn new things. I
like to around myself with really smart people to teach
me things. But I also like to surround myself with
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young people that I would like to teach certain things.
You know, how you can have And I'm hoping this
book is going to serve as you know, many different
things for people, but for young for a young person
to read and say, wow, you can do these things,
and you know you don't have to do everything so well.
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I don't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I want to ask you know, we see it here
a lot of people all the time, women and men
that's trying to create their own company, right, their own
lipstick line, their own hair line, and it's very difficult. Right,
what would you tell that young entrepreneur that's trying to
break through the doors and they're having a problems. Target
won't take their calls, Bloomingdale's won't take their calls, Macy's
tells them no, or they don't have enough stop what
do you tell that young entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, first of all, I tell everyone, try to work
for someone first. Try to spend a year, and you know,
just think of it as being in school. Go work
for a company that you admire. I don't care if
you have to be the receptionist or social media manager.
Just see how things are. And when you're ready to
launch your own business, don't don't overinvest, because then you're
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going to be stuck. People think it takes a lot
of money, And do it really slow and make sure
what you're doing is different than what's on the market.
And if you don't know if it's gonna work, just
make a couple things figure out. You know. People come
to me with these big decks and they're the most
beautiful decks and like, oh, this sounds amazing. Can I
try the product? Well I don't have the product. Well,
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how do you know it's going to work? I mean,
you know, I had this one girl with a Harvard
degree come to me with this beautiful deck. I said, right,
let me try it. She was a woman of color.
She wanted to make this special sun screen that looked
she didn't even know where the lab was. I'm like,
how could you do all this until you actually know
the product works, and you know when you do have
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one that you think is great, put it in little
containers and start giving it to all your friends. If
they like it, then give it to other people. Like,
just start slow. You don't need like people think you
need it all figured out.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I want to say, this is a woman who's been
two billion dollar brands telling y'all it is okay to
have a job.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, said worked for years.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So I'm saying, but most people will be like, we haven't.
We know a lot of entrepreneurs that no, I no,
I don't want to have a job. You shouldn't have
a boss.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah. First of all, you got to learn things like
arriving on time, saying hello, or if you're late, calling
and saying I'm so sorry I'm late. How do you
learn those things? And you also have to figure out
how you can work with other people, and so you
know it's okay to work with people that you don't
like because you have to learn how to do it.
Like all these things in life, we're learning things.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I was gonna ask with makeup, it seems like it's
a it's a difficult industry, right, And the reason I
say that is like the red lipstick, right, Charlemagne puts
it on his lips and he might have a reaction
to it. That's a fantasy or you know something like that.
You never know what product works with somebody's skin. How
do you go around that to make sure something can
work for I guess everybody? Or do you say I'm
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looking for a particular market and I'm going to focus
for that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know, either one of those work, it doesn't really matter.
I mean, Jones Road is a clean makeup brand, so
I know people are not going to have problems with it.
You know. I also know the only people that aren't
going to like Jones Road are people that like artificial makeup.
If you like artificial makeup and want to look like that,
there's other brands for you. So I don't have to
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be everything for everybody, but you know what I want.
It's you know why Jones Road. I think one of
the reasons why it's successful is because it's what I
believe in, which is makeup that when you put it on,
you just look better and you don't know why, because
it's almost like magic. You're like, oh my god, what happened?
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Because it looks like you. You look less tired, your
skin looks more even, it looks fresh. But that's my aesthetic.
It's not every makeup founder's aesthetic. And my biggest warning
to people that want to start their own brand is
don't just go out there and do what other people
are doing. It's you got to have a point of
difference or you're just gonna sit there and you're gonna
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invest too much money. You're gonna borrow from everyone you know,
and then you're gonna be like, well, this don't work.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I saw your your master class and most people hear.
And you want to be a teacher, makes a lot
of sense most people who teach. While teaching, you're still
learning a lot from other people. What are you still
learning today with all the this success?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh my god, I'm learning so much. First of all,
I'm you know, I'm learning a lot. I'm learning. I'm
learning how to hip hop. That's, you know, the most
important thing which I need some help with. I love.
There's nothing I like better in life than dancing. And
I'm have you ever seen a Jewish girl dance?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
It's not but I do it anyway about the dance, huh,
I thought you were getting up the dance.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
No, but that's how I wake up every day. As
I put I followed this guy in the UK who's
a hip hop dancer and I and it just gets
my brain going in the morning. But that, I know,
that wasn't the question. What was the question? Please?
Speaker 6 (17:59):
What are you still learning in today? Like you with
all your success?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean just trying new things and just being
curious and you never you never know who you're gonna
meet and what interesting thing is going to happen because
of it.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You don't say learning how to hip hop, I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Learning how to dance.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. It's like the stuff I say to my husband
about golf. I'm you know something, Oh you're playing whatever
I say, it's never the right thing about golf.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I wanted to go back to your artificial What is
the difference and does that affect skin?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Because my daughters danced, Yeah, and they have to wear makeup,
oh yes, you know, because it's hair back. And I
always wonder will that makeup that they put on affect
them later on?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
As long as they wash their face before they go
to bed. Most of the time, if they miss it
a day or two they're gonna be fine. But no,
as long as you take care of your skin, then
you're gonna be fine. And it's not even the makeup
on your skin that makes problems.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's like you see people with the creatives sometimes. I
always wonder if that's like an effect of makeup that too.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, no, I think look at your head.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
No, I'm saying that.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
If your hair is dirty and touches your face, yeah, you've.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Got to You've got to clean yourself. But you also
have to really realize so much of skin. You know,
skin's an organ. It's the food you put in your body.
And if you're eating junk food all day long, every day,
you're gonna look like junk.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
What about fried chicken, Bobby? You know what just do?
First of all, I also went back to school got
my degree as a health coach. So fried chicken, French fries,
those things that taste good, just do less of it.
Just don't have it as your everyday diet unless you
don't care about how you feel. I mean, maybe you
feel good. I don't know. I don't feel good when
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I eat junky food.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
You know, that's interesting to hear you talk about going
back to school because a lot of a lot of entrepreneurs,
especially in the beauty space too, will say they don't
do school because it doesn't like nothing creative comes out
of being in college, of being in a classroom.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
A lot of people feel like that as well.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I went to my third college, which was Emerson College
in Boston. I went because I wanted to study theatrical makeup.
They let me. They didn't have a course. They let
me make up my own course. Well, I didn't know
the word entrepreneur back then. I still don't know how
to spell it, by the way, but they let me
make it up. So I learned how to kind of
craft my own road by going to school. So I
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have a degree in theatrical makeup.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
The thing I love about still Bobby the most is
like it just shows how rooted and family you are.
And when you think about the two major brands that
you've built and you raised a family, what was some
of the hardest trade offs you had to make?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It was tough. I mean, you know, I when you
commit to a certain trip, if something comes up, I
couldn't cancel it, you know. I once was supposed to
do like this big fashion show, and I said yes
to it. It was confirmed, and then my kids and
my husband said they're gone skiing. Whatever break it was,
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I canceled the fashion show and guess what, they never
hired me again. Opes. Oh well, so every year I
made sure I went to the principal the first day's
school with lip glosses, say hi, you know, here's some
a gift for you. Could you please tell me what
are the dates?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
When is the school sing along? When's you know, the
teachers conferences? Because I wanted to be there and I
put them in my calendar, so I blocked those out
and I never missed one. I think I missed one
out of all the years of the three kids one
of their singalongs. And my kids are wonderful, but they
got no talent. But I was at every sing along.
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None of them could sing, none of them could dance,
but I was.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
There looking back, Would you change how you balanced those roles?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I got really lucky. I really did put my family first.
And you know, my kids might say I wasn't there
all the time, but for a working mom, I was there.
I was the class mom almost every year for at
least one of them. You know, and it was so
stressful for me because I don't know how to type.
And how could you be a class mom and not
know how to type. I don't know how to type.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
What would you say to women who feel like they
can't have it all, like they can't balance it all?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You do what you can. I mean, I got better
as I got older, Like I was not this Bobby
Brown when I was a thirty year old, you know,
worker or mom. I got better and I just learned.
I like hacked my life. I just, you know, I
hacked my life things that were stressful, like you know,
realizing your kid is a birthday party on a Saturday
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and you didn't buy a gift and you run out
you buy a gift and then you come home and
you got to wrap it and you gotta get the
kid ready. I'm like, this is stupid. I went to
the local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for ten
and twenty dollars, and every time they had a birthday party,
I just threw a couple in an envelope like I'm done.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I've been doing that one, I know, but I
didn't think of that. That's an easy one. Yeah, A
bunch of GI certificates. Go ahead, every one.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We yeah, six six kads?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah it Me and my wife got six wow, married
twenty four years, Yeah, six kids. Logan's number two. Madison
is old.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Didn't know you guys were married.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, she has a Mexican I don't have a Mexican.
Mexican crazy. We have two kids, and I'm going to
get my wife of six.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And you have four.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And I'm showing ask you that question because that's what
I'm trying to do now, trying to balance, you know,
the work, the mom life, everything I have going on.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Don't worry when your kids are out of the house.
She'll have it together, okay, And you know what, so
what you don't have it together? I remember, you know,
and I had to be a corporate person and dress
up and show up like, you know, like I was
Melanie Griffith and working girl. You know, I didn't know anything.
And I'll never forget. Tina Brown, who was this big
editor in chief, was on stage once and someone asked
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her how she did it. She goes, oh my god,
it was a ship show. It was always a mess.
I always forgot things, and that just gave me permission
to be like, yeah, to be real, Like that's my advice.
Be real, Yes, it's sometimes it's a shit show. And
tell your boss if you're gonna be late, tell them
if there's a reason you're not your best self, maybe
the kid didn't sleep all night, whatever it is. Yeah,
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you know, yeah, be real and don't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
How important is people knowing Bobby Brown the person to
Bobby Brown the brand.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, I think people get confused. They think I am
still with the brand and I am not. The book
tells the whole story. And yeah, it was hard. You know,
I don't own my name, so I can't just you know,
slap my name on things or use it the way
I want. But it's okay. You know, I've been able
to my husband and I have probably sent twenty twenty
five kids to college, so it's it's okay. I'm glad,
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you know, I'm at peace with it. And Jones Road,
you know, just came. I found it on Ways when
I was given my husband direction, and I'm like, oh,
that sounds like a cool name.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But I feel like Bobby bron the person is the brand.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
There, Bobby Brown the person is the Jones Road brand. Yeah,
it's not. I know it's complicated, right, it's complicated. But
you know, there's Calvin Klein, there's HARMANI, there's all you know,
Donna Karen. So it's you know, it is the way
of the world. But you know, yeah, I Bobby Brown.
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I mean, who knew people were brands, but we are apparently.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I was alway Jones Road.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The significance behind that is just you just saw it
on Wait.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, my husband said, if I didn't have a name
by Monday. It was a Friday. We were driving to
the Hampton's and my husband always has me look at
ways and Google Maps because god forbid, we're five minutes late,
even though we have nowhere to go. So my head
was down and I saw Jones Road and I said,
Jones Road. Makeup Instantly, I thought it sounded like a
British bespoke, you know brand, And I thought, oh, that's
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a cool name. And I can't use Brown, I might
as well use Jones. So he said I like it,
and it was available, and that's how it became Jones Road.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Why don't you believe in contoorn.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Because what's wrong with your face? Then you need to contour.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I think when you contour, it just gives you like this,
like slim like pool together. Like I see the difference
in photos when I contour when I don't. My face
is fire either way, but I do see. But I
do see the difference.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
A lot of people that contour. First of all, it
makes them think there's something wrong with their face. Contour
is when you put something dark to make it recede.
Like I like to contour my stomach. I'm sorry, put
something nice and tight on. I will contour that all day.
But my face, well first, so I don't. I don't
have a lot of fat in my face, so I
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like to use blush to make my face look a
little bit fuller. And I don't know. I think people
are beautiful as they are. They don't need to change
the shape of their nose.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Oh that's the thing where I see online where they
put the dog online.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And make the.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Cheeks too.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And you know you didn't have to get a those job.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I did not get a noose jobs. If he did
tell her what happened to no, I did not. I
was ignoring a lot. So when I went to the doctor,
they removed the polyps. That was it. There was no
nose job. It's the same nose, Flimmers.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm not judging fixed.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You have a beautiful nose.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
He does eyebrows though, you see that way You never
did you eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
In high school.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
With me being an adult and you know, guys are
allowed to groom. Guys are allowed to groom. It's not
a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, what was the most difficult memory our chapter for
you to revisit while he was writing?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know, it's really funny because I had a you know,
it's an audible book too right now, So I had
to I had to read it and I cried once.
And it was talking about my mother in law that
I just adored her, and I just you know, the
hard part, the hard weird thing is all the people
that were my family are not alive anymore, right, like
my original Chicago family. I mean, my dad is ninety
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right now and he's still there, but he's only one.
You know. I lost a brother, I lost a mom,
I lost my grandparents, you know. And it's like and
my ninety four year old aunt Dallas is still there,
sharp as attack. She has a boyfriend who's ninety five. Wow,
and she's interviewing me on stage in Chicago when I
come there at her retirement community. Wow, that's what I'm
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excited about this book tour. When are you going to
Chicago October tenth or something?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
How did that make you look at your own mortality?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You know? I look, it's weird because I know, you know,
my parents were twenty and twenty one when I was born,
So I'm like, I'm just twenty years to go, right,
I mean, it's like, you know, I hope to live
over ninety. But it's like shit, you know sixty eight guys,
like it's totally young. Keep learning hip path.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, it takes me years off.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna text Flo Rider to come
DJ my birthday and Floriade's if they today. Actually, I
can't believe it. I hoped. My One of my best
memories of my life is hop it on stage with
Flow Rider made he put his chains on me and
I Also I also hopped on stage with Salt and Pepper.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh yeah, so you did the Apple bottom Jean, you
did all that. You did push it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
No, we didn't do push it. We did get low.
I got low with Flow. Well, you know, my dad's
name is James Brown. So when you meet my dad,
you'd be like, James Brown is like, yeah, I feel good.
How are you saying that for ninety years?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
James to great.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Part one of your book is now where You're from?
Talking about your family, and then you go into your
nana and your papa. Right, Why why is knowing where
you're from? Or how has that been so important in
every brain you've created?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Because it's who I am? Right, it's you know, being
from Chicago has made me like a much I think,
a much more like stable person with my feet in
the ground, you know. I know Charlemagne talks about where
he comes from. I just think it's important. And by
the way, some people say my childhood was complicated, and
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I don't look at it that way. I mean things happened,
and I moved around it, and I you know, I
take the good stuff and I don't blame anyone for anything, right.
I mean my mother there's a story in the book
where she told me I was really pretty and I said,
thank you. She said, but you'd be gorgeous if you
had your nose fixed, and I didn't clearly, and I
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just it didn't define me, but it did push me
to help people appreciate who they are.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Oh so that that that's what steers you away from
the contour.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think yeah, I think so. And you know, every
time I'd go to Asia and I would tell the
women they're beautiful, they would just say, oh no, my
eyes are this and my feet and I'm like no.
And you know, in women of color, it's like, guys,
you have this beauty that we don't have, like, appreciate it,
your skin color, your features, everything. And you know, to
my fellow friends with lips small, you know that match
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their faces, leave those things alone.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right, Like people look so stupid with them their lips.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Who if you get it's just it doesn't work even
when you just I'm just gonna do a teeny bit. No,
you look like a duck.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How do you define authenticity?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
But just be yourself, be real, Just be yourself, be real.
And all of a sudden, now it's a trend. Being
authentic as a trend.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Okay, great, has your definition of authenticity I've a shifted
over time?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
No, I think I think I've gotten much more comfortable
with who I am. And that's that's a good part
about getting older. You're like, you realize I tried on
everyone else and it didn't work right.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
I was gonna ask about your light weight makeup approach,
like that's like your your calling card. How do you
deal with people who are on the other side that
feel like lightweight makeup isn't as substantial or doesn't show
up the best.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I like when people are complaining that things are so.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Late, it's fine, stop complaining, go use something else. It's fine. Yeah.
I mean there's you know, like not everything works for everybody,
and that's okay.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
You have such a simple approach to everything.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Everything is.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Yeah, it seems so like to get to where you
are and what you do, especially with product you it
feels so heavy when you're trying to do it, but
you were sitting here just like no, well first.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Of all, and also don't forget about your people around you.
Ask their opinion. Do you like this? Like that's how
I started. I had these little you know, I made
Miracle Balm. I didn't know it was going to be
this big company. It was during the pandemic. I put
it in little things and I sent it to all
my friends and they would call me up and say,
what is this? I need more? And it was during
(32:46):
the pandemic. They would call and say, all right, I
need more. I'm coming to your house. But they would
stand outside and I'd have to throw it from from
my you know, porch to them, and I knew I
had something. But that's how I started my market research.
I didn't hire a market research company. I just asked people.
And when I made my first lipstix years ago, I
would go to the park and the nannies were from
(33:08):
all over the world. They had all different coloring and
all different color lips. They would try things and I
would see how it looked on them. That was another
focus group. Mmmm, it's just common sense.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
What do you hope readers take away from still Bobby?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You know, I hope it gives them encouragement to, you know,
to live their life their way and you know, and
and it's not as difficult as you make it. Yeah,
and just be be naive, be positive, and you know,
just work hard and keep at it and just be nice.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I noticed just the first week of a book.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
But now that you shared this memoir, what's next, Like,
what are you excited to accomplish or create moving forward?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Not even just in the beauty world, just life.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know, I try, I try things, like I did
a you know, a series on YouTube that I can't
seem to get enough eyeballs on called I Am Me,
which I interview all these really cool women. You know,
I don't know how to get more eyeballs on it,
but that's fun. You know. It was sponsored by JP Morgan,
which is cool, and I'm like, all right, I'll just
keep trying stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I had a podcast with iHeart. It was cool. It
was fun, don't you know. I'm like, I don't know,
maybe I'll do something else. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You get eyeballs on it by going on Mail show.
You go on Mail Robins Show and you tell everybody.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You had.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yes, all right, well that's on my list. I
have her and I have one other one and then
I'm good, okay, yeah, and I'm good. I wanted this
was on my list. So thank you for this. And
by the way, when I became Time one hundred this
year and ready to thank you, and they said, we're
going to reach out to someone you know, who would
you like to write this thing? And they said we
(34:47):
need five people, and I ranked them and number one said, yes,
it was Charlott Magne. But so I so there I
was walk in the red carpet. You know, Bobby look here, Bobby,
look here. People didn't say how do you feel about this?
You know what they said to me? How do you know, Charlemagne?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How did you get.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Them to do that? Really?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
No, I love Bobby and I love her husband, Steven.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
And the thing I like that you bring people together,
like you know that that dinner you had with all
these different people walk their life to math class and
just making.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Everybody like Salmon Rushty was at that dinner. I'm like,
I'm sitting there with like Charlemagne and Salmon Rushty, you know,
and Don Garber, the Major League Soccer czar.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Because it's amazing conversation. Everybody, you know, put their phones
down and just talk. And I just think that does
so much. And bringing people together, man, And I think
we need those kind of safe spaces in this world
that we're in right now.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
That's what You're sit down conversations are like too. All
those people. I'm like, I've never would have even known
who these people were.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
People are interesting, by the way. I love people's stories.
And Jones Road just launched something called Beauty Stories because
I want to share people's beauty stories. You know, think
about your grandma, your mom, your aunt. Where did you
learn and what things kind of stay with you?
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Still, Bobby, A masterclass and leading and authentic life is
available everywhere you buy books right now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's right, so make sure you pick it up. And
we appreciate you for joining us absolutely and thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh my pleasure, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Bobby Brown. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, hold every
day up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
The Breakfast Club. You're finish for y'all done,
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