September 26, 2025 • 31 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Trevor Jackson Talks ‘I Love You Goodbye,' New Album & EP’s; Grey's Anatomy, Puma Deal. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day we click yours up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all do.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
Yes, It's the world most Dangerous Mornings to Breakfast Club.
Charlamage the God DJ NV just hilarious. Envy is off
to day. But llll koolba is in Law and l
Rossa and we got a special guest. You used to
seeing them on your TV screens. But he got an
EP coming out on October with the card I Love You.
Let's go Trepa Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
His head was happening. Man, I'm happy here. Good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How you feeling. Do you want to? You want to
talk about acting or singing?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's talk about both, whatever you want to talk about first,
I'm hoping to.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm absolutely loving this EP.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I really appreciate that it's different. It has like a
soundtrack vibe like like love.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, yeah, I love that and I did not. I
don't know why, Hope this doesn't a thing. I didn't
expect that coming from you, But like, what genre would
you classify?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I would like to be genre lists.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
That's kind of like my goal when I make anything
in life, I try not to be in any type
of box. I always want to represent like freedom, freedom
of creativity, freedom of you know who you are, and
so yeah, and the thing about this album is because
it's so personal to me, everything that came out just
came out. There was no like, hey, I want to
make a song this acoustic, or I want to make
a song that talks about this.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It was like I was going through a very very
hard time.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
I was in a very low space and I just
started vomiting, you know, records, and I think that's how
you get the best stuff. Like when I was talking
to my dad, my dad was like, I'm sorry that
you're in this much pain some but this is your opus.
You know what I'm saying, This is the best shit
you've ever made.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Sorry, can you cuss?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
But he's like, this is the best stuff you've ever made.
And I was just like yeah, And I was like,
it's glad to go through that, but yeah, I'm thankful
for the outlet. I feel like I would explode if
I didn't have these things in my life.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What do you call yourself a multi hybrid?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I like that multibriy. I like to say artists, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I was even playing around with the idea of just
a capture of moments, you know, whether I'm making a
song or I'm on set, I'm capturing a moment in time.
Because I've been helped by so many artists throughout my
life and just athletes or whoever, and I always want
to be that for someone. So like this album, in
particular this EP, anybody who's been through a breakup can
relate to at least.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
One song on these projects. And that's why I made it.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Because when I go through a hard time, I put
on a good movie, I'm out of my punk, or
I put on a good song and I'm out of
my funk, and I feel like I'm not alone anymore
because someone feels the same way as me.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And you know, so I like that because before you
walked in, Jess was like he's by, and I'm like, no,
that's not what.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You call it, but you can sing it.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
You don't call.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You don't call it that idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean, like, you know the music and the act, but.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's not what you call it, is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What did you call it?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Again?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Killing that?
Speaker 8 (02:42):
So this song, so you really went through this breakup
or this like relationship situation that you're singing about how
long did it take for you to get to the
point where you realize that it just wasn't gonna work out,
She wasn't gonna put both feet in.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Well, she broke up with me, which is okay, you
know what I'm saying, And we just weren't right for
each other. And it's I'm the type of person like
I don't care how bad it's going like I made,
I'm just like trying to hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know, I want it, I want it so bad.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
But I'm so thankful God does the hard work for me, right,
because I would have never left you feel me, I
would have seen and so obviously I went through a
lot of it. So the crazy thing about this music, guys,
after she broke up with me two weeks after I
tore my achilles, then I had to shoot a TV
show with the foot on.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Then I had to do toward it, like I was
going through so much that it came from that. But yeah, no,
I yeah, I was in a really, really low spot.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
But I think again, that's why I wanted to do
this because I think black men in general journaling talking
about it, I want people to process and then be
like a lighthouse for somebody else instead of internalizing. And
I felt like that was this album for me. You know,
I had just probably started going to therapy a few
years before the breakup, and I love journaling. I love
talking to therivers. And that's what the music is for me.
(03:54):
You know, I'm just like right, and then but then
I come back and listen to him like this is
fucking smash.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So so even when you go back and you listen
to the EP, right, yeah, you don't break down at all.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, that's what.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
But that's why I do what I do. And like
people are like, oh, you're trying to be famous, you
want money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
No, I'm surviving. That's why I make music.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
That's why even I go to set, I tell people
there's stories where I had to do a scene and
this was another breakup.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I like had broken up with someone.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And then the next day I get to set and
the scene is a breakup scene and I just used everything.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Boom boom, like my god, that performance and like, meanwhile,
you know, I.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Really just this is my life.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah, but again, I'm thankful for the outlets. Man, they
save me for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
How many times did y'all break up before y'all really broke.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Up maybe like two three, yeah, two three, But yeah,
I'm in a good place now. I'm really really thankful,
you know. Like I said, God does the hardest part.
But again, I would tear my achilles. I get broken
up with a million times over to feel how I
film now, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I would do it a billion times.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
How helpful was.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know you going to therapy prior?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I guess less than the blow.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Uh, it's super helpful. I think I think it's the
talking about it. I think my whole life. Most men,
you know, it's like, I'm fine, even when I talk
to my homies, excuse me that riot and do music.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
When I was talking about the album, they were like, dude, man,
you can't. You can't give her this, can't write all
this stuff.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
It's to a most No, you need to be going
to the club, right, That's how most guys handle this.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm sad.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I'm gonna go for them something and I'm gonna try
and forget about it. But I'm gonna go be cool outside.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And some food and hopefully and hopefully feel better about it.
You feel what I'm saying, But at that time most
people do with this.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
So that's why this album is really special because I
think people should see someone like me expressing these types
of feelings and just being honest and I feel way lighter.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
What did you learn about yourself relationships? After your therapy?
After doing what I love?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You learn about myself? Oh? Man, I deserve more? Honestly.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I felt like it's you know, we all are successful
what we do, and sometimes you feel like a shame
for it, and you feel like whoever you're with, especially
if they're not on that level that they get, they
get to beat you down more because you can quote
unquote take it or because you have more.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Even when you break up, you know, people are going
to the girl like, oh my god, are you okay?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Like yeah, you know, and the guy just like you know,
and I was torn, you know, I was a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But yeah, I think I learned too in relationships that
I deserved more, you know what I'm saying, And uh yeah,
that's a long list, but I learned.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
How do you fear being alone?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Because because I want to, Oh okay, absolutely on one foot,
then you say, catch your baddy by the toe if
you love or let it go. But it's hard when
you need somebody, somebody, we are a couple creatures.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Man, we're supposed to be with somebody that not necessarily too,
but I mean, I think it's the natural order of things.
But definitely, dude, I definitely had issues. You know, I
slept in my big brother's room until, you know, I
hate I was like fourteen fifteen because I just hated
sleeping in the dark, being on myself, like wanted somebody
to let me know, and also just being alive. Guys,
(07:03):
we're on Earth in the middle of the space. Okay,
it's hard to be like, You're like, what is this?
So it helps when you have somebody sharing that experience
close to you. But absolutely, I feel like I've done
that a bunch. I've you know, done some crazy things
just to not be alone. But I'm learning now that
the right person to will encourage that of you.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, you need some space, you need some you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You're a teddyband type of guy, pet what's that mean? Like,
did you sleep with a teddy band?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
After? You know?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But I'm a TV guy.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
TV.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I have to have a TV on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I can't sleep.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
My mind is too loud, my mind is way louder
than any TV, any music.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Like. So when it's when it's dark and it's quiet, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Just you don't meditate. Huh, you don't meditate?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I should more, but I do. I do meditate, but
I just don't do it as often as I should.
I'm doing this thing now where I look up, like
forty eight or what's the hurts? That's good for the Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah about play like on Apple music, or I'll put
on some like meditation, morning music or just relaxing because.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm on go.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
So when you say when you when you sit in
the quiet and your thoughts are too loud, what are
those thoughts?
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You're not doing enough? Do more? You should have done this? Hey?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
What when are you gonna finish that script you said
you was gonna write? Hey you have to shoot tomorrow?
Are you gonna kill that? Are you gonna do good?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are you gonna go to sleep?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
It's hard, it's really hard. Yeah, it's just you know,
and then again, why am I here? What am I
supposed to do? Am I doing the right thing? And
I always lean on love. That's why everything I made
is make in life kind of revolves around that, especially musically,
because that's.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The only thing that I can keep going with.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
It is like, I love my family, I love God,
I love people, even random strangers. I mean like, I'll
have a better day if I just go out and
see somebody behind the cash red just there and they're like, hey,
I have a good damn.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like that's what it's about, right, Like we should just
be cool to each other.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
Where does that those pressures that make your mind so
loud come from. Is it because you've been doing this
since you were younger and you've been successful. Is it
that that chase or is it just you feel like
you got a lot to do.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I feel like I got a lot to do. Even
when I was young, I didn't feel like too much.
I didn't feel a lot of pressure. I don't think
you find you get pressureuntil you realize the why, right,
Like I knew what I wanted.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
At the feeling, Yeah, I knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
I was like, I want everybody in the world to
know me. I want to be famous, I want to dance,
I want to sing, I want to be on stage.
And then I got to the point I was like, why, oh,
I'm carrying something and it's bigger than myself, and I
think that's when the pressure in the brain is.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Like yo, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
And then my kids, which I don't have, but I
put a lot of pressure on myself to have answers
for them. Okay, but even if I you know what
I'm saying, even if I don't have them, I just
want to be able to have Even if I don't
have the answers for them, I want to give them something,
you know that. So I put a lot of pressure
on myself for that too. I just want to be
a good dad. I want to be a good husband,
(09:46):
and like, you know.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
Get it right, okay, my niece, my back.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You do realize that there's never probably going to be
a time where you haven't figured out. Yeah, So there's
no need to beat yourself up, like you know, give
yourself grace. Like every new year is a journey. Literally
every new day is a journey. So it's good to
be on this this path of self discovery and just
trying to figure out, you know, what what.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Works for you.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Don't beat yourself up exactly, thank you man, not knowing
appreciate that where you feel like you're supposed to because
you really don't even know who you are, right, you'd act,
you sing, and that might not even be what you
even here to do.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You have no idea?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Like congratulations on Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That is that is big.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I love raising Anatomy. How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That was crazy?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
So I didn't even think I auditioned, you know. I
think I had a few auditions that week or just
like on you know, a recording.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Why can't I think of the name sit in the tapes? Whatever?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
And uh, it was just a quick like audition and
I was like, oh, this is a dope ro and
I really thought that they weren't gonna come me back.
It was like maybe a few weeks, maybe a month after,
so I had forgotten about it, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh, yeah, it's the great name and they want you.
I was like what.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
And it's funny because when I'm doing one, I'm itching
to do the other thing, so I'll be on set.
I'm like, man, I can't wait to make a song.
And then when I was on tour, I got off
tour and I was like, man, I want to be
back on set again. You know, because I was on
Grownish for six years, six and a half years and
I had missed being on set, and now this is
one of those things in life. I feel like we
all get to a point where it just feels like monotonous.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's like, here's another day.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
But when I get to go and be a little
bit nervous about something or have a little bit of
like anxiousness, and I'm just learning so much, you know,
like as an actor and as a doctor or not
a real doctor, but they have real doctors on set
that are always just like, hey, this is how you
picked this up. You would never hold this like this,
you know what I mean, your hands on, go blow
your waist and operating like a whole bunch of things
that I had no idea about.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And in the set is just sick, dude.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Everybody's sweet, everybody's nice, embracing, encouraging, and that's the kind
of environment you want to work in.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Made you nervous about it.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
It's a legendary show, you know, twenty two years and
a lot of big actors came off of that show
and they are still on that show.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And I think too, it's the it's the extra element
of being a doctor. And I've never been to school
for any type of thing doctor.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
So that's kind of like where the hers was like,
although I'm acting naturally like with a doctor said his
hand like, you know, I'm just trying to like that
type of stuff. But it's though, I'm trying to just
be as comfortable as I can be.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Just fight the old the white women off with it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's fun though, the live coat if it's something different.
When you put a live colder on, you got the
what's it called the dog? I should know this.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, oh that's why he was nervous.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I'm like, where's the script, show me the word? Pronounce that?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yet she is not I'm not mat but are.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
People on her team? But everybody's dope. Yeah, I'm excited.
It's it's a great, great, great and.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're going to be a regular on it. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I'm stoked, man, I'm stoked. Honestly. It came at the
perfect time.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And you call it a new EP. I love you,
I love you.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
It's the beginning of a series, right, we're in the
beginning stages, and obviously there'll be more stuff and it'll
all come together, makes sense, but this is the first little,
you know, dipping the tone in the pool just kind
of even like what you were saying, the new sound.
I want people to really, you know, rediscover me again
in that way because I think I'm making music from
such a real place and and sharing is a huge
(13:09):
inspirational mind Again I was I wasn't making this to
sound like that, but a lot of people hear the music,
it's like sharing like it's cool. That's that's the vibe,
that's the energy. And it takes records like that and
songs like that. You know, that guy can be in
a stadium standing by himself with the guitar, doesn't need dancers,
doesn't need lights because the music is so real.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And that's kind of what I was after I saw
this weekend for real. Yeah, he performed the die Off
as well. I mean I've been to a lot of
a concerts in my life, but he performed the die Off. Yeah,
And you're absolutely right. And and he makes these records
that just like you are.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
In love with individual.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Like perfect shape with yeah, just like nuts ballads. What
what was the wedding song that everybody loved? Honey?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I like a lot too. The new Jony did.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, he's cold brout a new album.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's cold.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
What do you I'm I was gonna ask, what do
you think it will take for people to like?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Really?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I guess not because you said you're in a rediscovery mode,
which your music, in your sound, the music is so good,
but I feel like people don't know that it's there.
What do you think it will take for people to
get it?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Consistent quality and that's all I've been.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean, if people go back and listen to all
my records like and I hope that people do, there
is just intention and there's quality and the music, and
I think, you know, I can't concern myself with others,
you know, I just got to continue to make the
best stuff I can and people catch on when the're
supposed to and if you're not or not. But I
make music for me first, and so that's how a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Of your covers have been going like viral and then
get picked up a lot. Do you feel like the
covers have been helping you in this rediscovery phase or
the traditional marketing of music that like labels, like, what
has it helped you best?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think that?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
So I'm glad you brought that up because my brother
kind of like twisted my arm to do the t
mixes right, the remixes that I do, I didn't want
to do them.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was like, I worked too hard.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I've worked too hard to just put free music out
and actually spend the amount of time I do to
make those like I don't just bs and like I
try to make the best verse I can do, sing
the best I can, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What I mean? Yeah? Right? And so I was like,
I'm giving this for free. This is mean, it's just
all of me.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
And my brother's like, Trevor, do you think you'll ever
not be able to write a song?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And I was like no, He's like, do the te mixes. Bro.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He's like, you're gonna have millions of new ideas. You're
gonna be fine. He's like, but you need to let
everybody know that you're on these people's level, if not
better than all these people.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So do it. And I was like, well, you know.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I do love that I can relate to you and
your brother with that. I can see how he's like, YO,
just put it out there. But sometimes i'd be listening,
I'd be like, oh no, this run could have went
on a trevel Jet and not the cover.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But YO, your voice is just.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Thank you so much, undeniable, appreciate, And so I want
to know what are some of your influences.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Brian McKnight, Gary Laveau, Stevie, Donnie Hathaway, Uh, Boys to Men, Oh,
we got to talk about that, Shawn Stockman and Boys
to Men. Those are also like people who affirmed me.
And I was like, okay, I don't need to prove
my these two guys. I was like almost crying when
(16:23):
I first met them. We have to be in my awards.
I was like, you guys, don't like. I started getting
emotion and they were like, is this guys, Like a
lot of people think I'd bes because I'm like an actress.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm fake. I'm like, bro, I'm about to start. I
don't think you understand. Like I listened to my whole life. Bro.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I sat for hours trying to riff like you. And
he was like, I justnna let you know. You're doing
us proud.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
You're doing us proud. Everything you do, we see it.
It's incredible. And don't let nobody tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
You're you're carrying the torch for us all this stuff.
And I'm just like what And I was sitting here
doubting myself. For I got here, like Trivor, they weren't.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Talking about music, probably talking about actors.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Now, why would you you just a ball head clown,
because why would you say that music.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Even they have been in no movies I'm saying, but
they probably just as a black man, you carrying the toys,
you like what you're doing music. When they were talking
to you, yes, it was.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was clearly about music.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Were being my ward and they were talking about my
music and my te mixes and vocally just.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You ain't get to that part.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
He literally started with that literally.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Okay, yeah, but when I had their stamp of approval,
I stopped out of myself in that way.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, man, man, I'm going hard.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That's good because I'd be wondering how many people know
Trevor Jackson actually does music, because even if they see
you doing couple of it's like he might be.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I might just be playing or whatever. But yeah, that's
why I think music like this though. I don't think
you can just play around and make this type of
these types of songs. Yeah, yeah, that I'm about to
put out.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
They're very very personal and connected, you know what.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I mean that was my point with When I watched
the one foot in video, I'm like, yo, he really
he's an artist.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I appreciate that people don't know that.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Even though it close serty interrupt you. Even those clothes
on that video you're talking about, like, I want to
represent poets from a time that couldn't wear those garments.
Black poets. Yeah, Elangston Hughes and Robert Frost and gra
Allan Poe. I know those aren't two black poet poets,
but I'm just saying poetry in general is something that
I think is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Words are so powerful. I want to be remembered like
those people.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I want to be like Shakespeares and people go back
million years, like did you hear this song?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He wrote about it?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
You know what I mean, and just be able to
connect because I think the biggest misconception in life is
that we're separate from each other. You know, I think
we're all We all go through the same stuff, maybe
in different fonts here and there, but it's the same.
And when you have these guidelines or these like I
come like check marks in life for You're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I made it to a point where it kind of
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I made it through that. Now I'm going to the
next thing. You have those That's why I like to
think my music could be for people.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think artists recognize that more than just the average person. Yeah,
because the arts bring everybody together.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, Oh man, there's nothing like it being out a
concert and you see in somebody agent, somebody whining, somebody
in and somebody and all sing the same song.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Vibrating Room five was on stage. I swear I was looking.
I'm like, it's so crazy. Music brings us all Together's
very cliche, but I was sitting there like it really does.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like we're all here.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Music is only universal language.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
True.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What you say music and math?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Music and math speaking math and music. Yeah, I don't
speak math at all.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Not good. Like what tipic. I'm like, I don't know.
Just you know, let's make make it right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What does real love look like to you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's a great question. I think.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Real love to me is selfless. I don't think there's
selfishness and love or real love. I don't think there's
ego and a real love. And I think the constant
wanting the best for the other person. It's something that
I think is super powerful, like somebody who just wants
your wants you to be your best and and but
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also isn't too pushy. It's a balance, you know what
I mean. But I think it's dance like you were
talking about earlier. I don't think you ever fully figured out
or ever.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Have it right.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
But I think when you have someone that's constantly wanting
the best for you and wanting you to operate the
highest version of you, that's somebody that that really loves you.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Now, are you m m Not afraid? But are you
scared to date again? Basically?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, No, I'm not. I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, you're happy, but you're single right now.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
This don't get to tell you thank you though for
having me back up here.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You always like show love and let me come up
and promote my stuff, like what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You carried a torch for us?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
What thout?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm super happy right now, that's the thing, you know.
I'm just saying so much joy.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He's definitely happy.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Hey, life is good. All I got to say is
better and batter better and batter.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Oh I like that?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I like that?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, And I think it's I totally am I try
to librate. Yeah, I definitely am. I love love, I
love to be loved. I love to love, and I
think that's from my family. Honestly, dude, I come from
an incredible, incredible family. My grandmother, my grandfather just passed
away recently.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
R I P. But these are people that.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Just instilled love into every single child, grandchild, the men,
the women. Like It's just that's just where I come
from and I can't operate on anything other than that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Now, do you have a Puma.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Deal on the way? Hopefully check me out.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
All your Instagram know they got some stuff and I
had no idea.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
When I had gone up there, I was like, I
didn't know. She was like, yes, yes, we got that
stuff all right. Cool, they have amazing, amazing clothes.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, I didn't even know that they may clues like
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like, yeah, I swear as soon as I started someone
to need that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was very comfortable. But you say, why I love you goodbye?
Oh why the good bye?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Okay, let's talk about it. I'm glad you asked that.
Last thing she said to me on the phone was
I love you goodbye.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I was like, oh, this was a great album
title though. That was literally my brain.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I was like, desert sh uh, write a song or
make an album, and yeah, that's literally how the album
title came to be. That was what we had a
conversation about, maybe like thirty minutes hour long.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And right after she's like, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
I love you goodbye, and that was the last and
I was like, this is a great album title.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, how long it was that?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Have you two years?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They say, if you love something, let it go. If
it comes back to you, it's yours, right, So how
do you know that?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
She No, it ain't right, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I alwaysh nothing but the best for you know
what I'm saying. I got no ill will.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
And the music is also not about me trying to
do anything towards or just me expressing those feelings that
I was going through. And I think it's important to
see the you know, God's perspective and all the feelings
that we go through.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But I love you goodbye. Man.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
It's also the death of something and the rebirth of something.
And that's also why the outfit that I have that
you guys are seeing is kind of like that. It's
like I said, when you get broken up with it
feels like you shut up to the wedding alone and
I was like, you like got it to the altar
and no one was there. It's like, oh gosh, dang right,
So that outfit kind of is that too, and it's yeah,
it's like dealing with grief and being rebirthed into somebody
new and again. Like I said, I do it a
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million times over to be the man that I am
or see the way I see the world now, I
would do it again.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Knowing that you need more and everything you learned from
that two years ago. How do you approach relationships now
so that you're not so it seems like you're like
very like open giver.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How do you not just give it all up front?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
That it's hard for me? Because I do. I do
go hard, I go fast, and I'm like, yo, let's
see what I mean. My life for short. We're gonna
die tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That's my in my head, that's how I feel about
a lot of the time. I'm like, you know, I
think about death all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So I'm like, let's do it. Let's just you know,
let's get hitched dumpkin.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
But I think, yeah, I'm just a little more caustious
and again when I said I deserve more, I think I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Looking more for people to see me more.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I felt like it was just a lot of like,
oh my god, you're that guy, right, But it wasn't
like you ain't seen me for real, like yeah, yeah,
So I'm in search of that and that's kind of
something I'm paying more attention to.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And the small stuff too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
There's what version of yourself do you think this project reflects?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
What version of myself do I think this project reflects?
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I think it's my most emotional album. I think it's
the most yeah, emotional. I'm really in tune with him.
I'm telling you. There's one record on the album. You
can hear me crying in the back of my brother.
I was mad that he kept it on the mix,
but he was like, no, we need this, we need this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is real. It's not on it's on the album,
but the EP is you know part of it. What
songs are all on the EP? Sorry I shouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
This, but you right Now's see, let's talk about some
of the records.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
A friend of a friend, which.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Is this with that look we have when he was
playing earlier last and I was like, damn it can
go to a TV show, a movie, write a movie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They sent us love don't want me for one foot
in collection, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You collection my favorite, Like, yeah, thank you? Collection is
probably my favorite thrill.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Excuse me on that because yeah, I'm not gonna be
another broken heart that you had to your collection. That's
why I have to put it to an end before
it starts. Uh, don't do what I'm gonna let you
add me to your collection. Don't want to be another
broken heart. And then at the end and the second
hook's flips right because you're gonna be another broken heart
(26:03):
that I don't want you to be another broken heart
I add to my collection. We both aren't good at love,
but we're trying to hang on to this thing. So yeah,
that's probably my favorite song on there.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But the whole the one, the one that sound like
the country, that's what're fighting for. Okay, why why did
you decide to go through the country because and that's what.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I mean, even when I was making it, I wasn't like,
let's make a country song. I just heard it beat
and then that was like what came drinking that at
the bar alone, you know what I mean, I was like,
that's all right, cool, go there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
And that's how everything with me kind of is, is
very spontaneous and just off of the cuff, and it
came out like that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And I'm from Indiana.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
I've loved country since I was a baby, so you
know what I mean, it just kind of leaned into
that vibe.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But yeah, I've always When I was.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Mentioning my favorite artist, Gary Levoise from radcal Flats, who
was one of my favorite vocals indian I'm from Indianapolis.
My family is from Marion and cut some family in
Fort Wayne too.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
But are you related to the Jacksons?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I wish, honestly, literally before you came.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
You know that every Michael he said, he says it's
every single time you say that, because.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You don't know it's the two thous.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
I might I might do better off.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Michaels the headline of grab I'm Michael Jackson's nephew.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I got to tell you all the truth. Uh, Germaine
is my daddy. My mom had a wild night.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Say Tito, you nobody let not around it, you know,
My point is you say you Tito and say you
are Jackson.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
People started listening to your music with a different name.
I'm telling you with.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
A different air.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I'm telling you gonna be like God, my dad would
be I called him on the way here.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You told me you was going to say that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, no, my dad, you're.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Talk about da with all to your background in television,
are you working on scoring any of this music and
trying to put it into the TV side of things?
Because it does sound like very core.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
This is can I just shout out real quick you Yeah,
let's let's run across man United Masters.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Man, they're incredible.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Shout out of mind, Shout out Maria back here these people,
shout out Jesse. Um has changed my perspective on, you know,
working with the label and really putting music out. But
to answer your question, yes, I would love to do that,
and uh yeah, I think we'll all kind of be
in the process of trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I would love that though.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
So you're independent, but just distributing it through you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I'm signed to you, and yeah, we officially signed our
first it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We partnered up and then now we were like this
feels good. This feels right. Let's do it. Let's go
all the way. Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You ever hear a record back and think to yourself,
I was too honest on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, do you keep it? Or do you keep it?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Okay, gotta keep it. What's the last record you did
that on?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
It's on the album.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
You haven't heard it yet, but when it comes out,
I will tell you that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But there's one on that I'm for sure. I'm like,
should should? I? Yes? And then other means do it?
Speaker 8 (28:58):
It is gonna be mad about it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Maybe you're an overthinker, though, thank yourself out of doing
something I can tell.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I literally told my brother. I was like, dude, trying
not put this whole album out. He's like, bro, shut
it up. I just I don't know, man, I don't know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Are we going to get a tour?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yes, definitely gonna get a tour. That's my favorite place
to be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Let's get it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I'm very very stoked, especially again with this music. I
think this is such sing along music and I can't wait.
Every time I've gone on tour, it's gotten.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Bigger and it's gotten better.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
So I'm really stoked to just see how the fans
received this music and turn something that was signed into
a turn up, you know, celebrate together and and you
know happy.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I got to hear how sad this album because I
just like I would listening to T T Y savages.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't don't take this. This is personal. This is personal,
and when you're listening to it, you can.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Feel her pain, like on some like Mary J.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Blige My life type.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I love you, it's like that. I'll give you
another story real quick.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
There's a song called man of Steel on the the
on Goodbye right that's coming up, and how I'm just
showing you how close my life is to the music.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So before that call, I was telling you that I
love you goodbye call. What I do when I'm sad
is I watch superhero movies. Okay, I'm a nerd. I
don't give that Marvel DC, I don't care.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
So I'm watching Batman or Superman, right, and you're gonna
be okay man, just be strong, you know, I'm watching
the movie.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She calls.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
We get off the phone and right basically, and within
that conversation, it was like, look, you can't love me
and be you right? You can't do be this guy
and still be with me, Like, I see that that's
not gonna work. So you know that's why we can't
do it. Right as soon as I get off the phone,
I go back to watching Batman vs. Superman, and Lois
Lane walks into the bathroom and uh no, Superman walks
into the bathroom those lanes in the tub.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And he's like, what's wrong. And she's like it's impossible.
He's like, what's impossible?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
She was like, for you to love me and still
be you the exact same one I ran downstairs. I'm
telling everybod'm my gods, just so you know this actually
just happened. I'm not using this story so I can
tell her on the breakfast club like this really just happened.
Made the song that day, Man of Steel, That's one
of my favorite songs.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
When album I just ask a question, yeah please, was
it your first time watching the movie? No, exactly what
you heard the line before Treble, But.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
It came right after the phone call, like seconds, like
right when I press play, Like I didn't know it
was going to right when I press played.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The next scene
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day we click yours up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all do.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
Yes, It's the world most Dangerous Mornings to Breakfast Club.
Charlamage the God DJ NV just hilarious. Envy is off
to day. But llll koolba is in Law and l
Rossa and we got a special guest. You used to
seeing them on your TV screens. But he got an
EP coming out on October with the card I Love You.
Let's go Trepa Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
His head was happening. Man, I'm happy here. Good morning,
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How you feeling. Do you want to? You want to
talk about acting or singing?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's talk about both, whatever you want to talk about first,
I'm hoping to.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm absolutely loving this EP.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I really appreciate that it's different. It has like a
soundtrack vibe like like love.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, yeah, I love that and I did not. I
don't know why, Hope this doesn't a thing. I didn't
expect that coming from you, But like, what genre would
you classify?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I would like to be genre lists.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
That's kind of like my goal when I make anything
in life, I try not to be in any type
of box. I always want to represent like freedom, freedom
of creativity, freedom of you know who you are, and
so yeah, and the thing about this album is because
it's so personal to me, everything that came out just
came out. There was no like, hey, I want to
make a song this acoustic, or I want to make
a song that talks about this.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It was like I was going through a very very
hard time.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
I was in a very low space and I just
started vomiting, you know, records, and I think that's how
you get the best stuff. Like when I was talking
to my dad, my dad was like, I'm sorry that
you're in this much pain some but this is your opus.
You know what I'm saying, This is the best shit
you've ever made.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Sorry, can you cuss?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
But he's like, this is the best stuff you've ever made.
And I was just like yeah, And I was like,
it's glad to go through that, but yeah, I'm thankful
for the outlet. I feel like I would explode if
I didn't have these things in my life.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What do you call yourself a multi hybrid?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I like that multibriy. I like to say artists, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I was even playing around with the idea of just
a capture of moments, you know, whether I'm making a
song or I'm on set, I'm capturing a moment in time.
Because I've been helped by so many artists throughout my
life and just athletes or whoever, and I always want
to be that for someone. So like this album, in
particular this EP, anybody who's been through a breakup can
relate to at least.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
One song on these projects. And that's why I made it.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Because when I go through a hard time, I put
on a good movie, I'm out of my punk, or
I put on a good song and I'm out of
my funk, and I feel like I'm not alone anymore
because someone feels the same way as me.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And you know, so I like that because before you
walked in, Jess was like he's by, and I'm like, no,
that's not what.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You call it, but you can sing it.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
You don't call.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You don't call it that idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean, like, you know the music and the act, but.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's not what you call it, is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What did you call it?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Again?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Killing that?
Speaker 8 (02:42):
So this song, so you really went through this breakup
or this like relationship situation that you're singing about how
long did it take for you to get to the
point where you realize that it just wasn't gonna work out,
She wasn't gonna put both feet in.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Well, she broke up with me, which is okay, you
know what I'm saying, And we just weren't right for
each other. And it's I'm the type of person like
I don't care how bad it's going like I made,
I'm just like trying to hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know, I want it, I want it so bad.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
But I'm so thankful God does the hard work for me, right,
because I would have never left you feel me, I
would have seen and so obviously I went through a
lot of it. So the crazy thing about this music, guys,
after she broke up with me two weeks after I
tore my achilles, then I had to shoot a TV
show with the foot on.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Then I had to do toward it, like I was
going through so much that it came from that. But yeah, no,
I yeah, I was in a really, really low spot.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
But I think again, that's why I wanted to do
this because I think black men in general journaling talking
about it, I want people to process and then be
like a lighthouse for somebody else instead of internalizing. And
I felt like that was this album for me. You know,
I had just probably started going to therapy a few
years before the breakup, and I love journaling. I love
talking to therivers. And that's what the music is for me.
(03:54):
You know, I'm just like right, and then but then
I come back and listen to him like this is
fucking smash.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
So so even when you go back and you listen
to the EP, right, yeah, you don't break down at all.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No, that's what.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
But that's why I do what I do. And like
people are like, oh, you're trying to be famous, you
want money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
No, I'm surviving. That's why I make music.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
That's why even I go to set, I tell people
there's stories where I had to do a scene and
this was another breakup.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I like had broken up with someone.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And then the next day I get to set and
the scene is a breakup scene and I just used everything.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Boom boom, like my god, that performance and like, meanwhile,
you know, I.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Really just this is my life.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah, but again, I'm thankful for the outlets. Man, they
save me for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
How many times did y'all break up before y'all really broke.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Up maybe like two three, yeah, two three, But yeah,
I'm in a good place now. I'm really really thankful,
you know. Like I said, God does the hardest part.
But again, I would tear my achilles. I get broken
up with a million times over to feel how I
film now, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I would do it a billion times.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
How helpful was.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know you going to therapy prior?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I guess less than the blow.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Uh, it's super helpful. I think I think it's the
talking about it. I think my whole life. Most men,
you know, it's like, I'm fine, even when I talk
to my homies, excuse me that riot and do music.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
When I was talking about the album, they were like, dude, man,
you can't. You can't give her this, can't write all
this stuff.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
It's to a most No, you need to be going
to the club, right, That's how most guys handle this.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm sad.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I'm gonna go for them something and I'm gonna try
and forget about it. But I'm gonna go be cool outside.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And some food and hopefully and hopefully feel better about it.
You feel what I'm saying, But at that time most
people do with this.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
So that's why this album is really special because I
think people should see someone like me expressing these types
of feelings and just being honest and I feel way lighter.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
What did you learn about yourself relationships? After your therapy?
After doing what I love?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You learn about myself? Oh? Man, I deserve more? Honestly.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I felt like it's you know, we all are successful
what we do, and sometimes you feel like a shame
for it, and you feel like whoever you're with, especially
if they're not on that level that they get, they
get to beat you down more because you can quote
unquote take it or because you have more.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Even when you break up, you know, people are going
to the girl like, oh my god, are you okay?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Like yeah, you know, and the guy just like you know,
and I was torn, you know, I was a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But yeah, I think I learned too in relationships that
I deserved more, you know what I'm saying, And uh yeah,
that's a long list, but I learned.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
How do you fear being alone?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Because because I want to, Oh okay, absolutely on one foot,
then you say, catch your baddy by the toe if
you love or let it go. But it's hard when
you need somebody, somebody, we are a couple creatures.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Man, we're supposed to be with somebody that not necessarily too,
but I mean, I think it's the natural order of things.
But definitely, dude, I definitely had issues. You know, I
slept in my big brother's room until, you know, I
hate I was like fourteen fifteen because I just hated
sleeping in the dark, being on myself, like wanted somebody
to let me know, and also just being alive. Guys,
(07:03):
we're on Earth in the middle of the space. Okay,
it's hard to be like, You're like, what is this?
So it helps when you have somebody sharing that experience
close to you. But absolutely, I feel like I've done
that a bunch. I've you know, done some crazy things
just to not be alone. But I'm learning now that
the right person to will encourage that of you.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, you need some space, you need some you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You're a teddyband type of guy, pet what's that mean? Like,
did you sleep with a teddy band?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
After? You know?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But I'm a TV guy.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
TV.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I have to have a TV on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I can't sleep.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
My mind is too loud, my mind is way louder
than any TV, any music.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Like. So when it's when it's dark and it's quiet, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Just you don't meditate. Huh, you don't meditate?
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I should more, but I do. I do meditate, but
I just don't do it as often as I should.
I'm doing this thing now where I look up, like
forty eight or what's the hurts? That's good for the Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah about play like on Apple music, or I'll put
on some like meditation, morning music or just relaxing because.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm on go.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
So when you say when you when you sit in
the quiet and your thoughts are too loud, what are
those thoughts?
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You're not doing enough? Do more? You should have done this? Hey?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
What when are you gonna finish that script you said
you was gonna write? Hey you have to shoot tomorrow?
Are you gonna kill that? Are you gonna do good?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are you gonna go to sleep?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
It's hard, it's really hard. Yeah, it's just you know,
and then again, why am I here? What am I
supposed to do? Am I doing the right thing? And
I always lean on love. That's why everything I made
is make in life kind of revolves around that, especially musically,
because that's.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
The only thing that I can keep going with.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
It is like, I love my family, I love God,
I love people, even random strangers. I mean like, I'll
have a better day if I just go out and
see somebody behind the cash red just there and they're like, hey,
I have a good damn.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like that's what it's about, right, Like we should just
be cool to each other.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
Where does that those pressures that make your mind so
loud come from. Is it because you've been doing this
since you were younger and you've been successful. Is it
that that chase or is it just you feel like
you got a lot to do.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I feel like I got a lot to do. Even
when I was young, I didn't feel like too much.
I didn't feel a lot of pressure. I don't think
you find you get pressureuntil you realize the why, right,
Like I knew what I wanted.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
At the feeling, Yeah, I knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
I was like, I want everybody in the world to
know me. I want to be famous, I want to dance,
I want to sing, I want to be on stage.
And then I got to the point I was like, why, oh,
I'm carrying something and it's bigger than myself, and I
think that's when the pressure in the brain is.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Like yo, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
And then my kids, which I don't have, but I
put a lot of pressure on myself to have answers
for them. Okay, but even if I you know what
I'm saying, even if I don't have them, I just
want to be able to have Even if I don't
have the answers for them, I want to give them something,
you know that. So I put a lot of pressure
on myself for that too. I just want to be
a good dad. I want to be a good husband,
(09:46):
and like, you know.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
Get it right, okay, my niece, my back.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You do realize that there's never probably going to be
a time where you haven't figured out. Yeah, So there's
no need to beat yourself up, like you know, give
yourself grace. Like every new year is a journey. Literally
every new day is a journey. So it's good to
be on this this path of self discovery and just
trying to figure out, you know, what what.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Works for you.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Don't beat yourself up exactly, thank you man, not knowing
appreciate that where you feel like you're supposed to because
you really don't even know who you are, right, you'd act,
you sing, and that might not even be what you
even here to do.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You have no idea?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Like congratulations on Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That is that is big.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I love raising Anatomy. How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That was crazy?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
So I didn't even think I auditioned, you know. I
think I had a few auditions that week or just
like on you know, a recording.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Why can't I think of the name sit in the tapes? Whatever?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
And uh, it was just a quick like audition and
I was like, oh, this is a dope ro and
I really thought that they weren't gonna come me back.
It was like maybe a few weeks, maybe a month after,
so I had forgotten about it, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh, yeah, it's the great name and they want you.
I was like what.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
And it's funny because when I'm doing one, I'm itching
to do the other thing, so I'll be on set.
I'm like, man, I can't wait to make a song.
And then when I was on tour, I got off
tour and I was like, man, I want to be
back on set again. You know, because I was on
Grownish for six years, six and a half years and
I had missed being on set, and now this is
one of those things in life. I feel like we
all get to a point where it just feels like monotonous.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's like, here's another day.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
But when I get to go and be a little
bit nervous about something or have a little bit of
like anxiousness, and I'm just learning so much, you know,
like as an actor and as a doctor or not
a real doctor, but they have real doctors on set
that are always just like, hey, this is how you
picked this up. You would never hold this like this,
you know what I mean, your hands on, go blow
your waist and operating like a whole bunch of things
that I had no idea about.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And in the set is just sick, dude.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Everybody's sweet, everybody's nice, embracing, encouraging, and that's the kind
of environment you want to work in.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Made you nervous about it.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
It's a legendary show, you know, twenty two years and
a lot of big actors came off of that show
and they are still on that show.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And I think too, it's the it's the extra element
of being a doctor. And I've never been to school
for any type of thing doctor.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
So that's kind of like where the hers was like,
although I'm acting naturally like with a doctor said his
hand like, you know, I'm just trying to like that
type of stuff. But it's though, I'm trying to just
be as comfortable as I can be.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Just fight the old the white women off with it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's fun though, the live coat if it's something different.
When you put a live colder on, you got the
what's it called the dog? I should know this.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, oh that's why he was nervous.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I'm like, where's the script, show me the word? Pronounce that?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yet she is not I'm not mat but are.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
People on her team? But everybody's dope. Yeah, I'm excited.
It's it's a great, great, great and.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're going to be a regular on it. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I'm stoked, man, I'm stoked. Honestly. It came at the
perfect time.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And you call it a new EP. I love you,
I love you.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
It's the beginning of a series, right, we're in the
beginning stages, and obviously there'll be more stuff and it'll
all come together, makes sense, but this is the first little,
you know, dipping the tone in the pool just kind
of even like what you were saying, the new sound.
I want people to really, you know, rediscover me again
in that way because I think I'm making music from
such a real place and and sharing is a huge
(13:09):
inspirational mind Again I was I wasn't making this to
sound like that, but a lot of people hear the music,
it's like sharing like it's cool. That's that's the vibe,
that's the energy. And it takes records like that and
songs like that. You know, that guy can be in
a stadium standing by himself with the guitar, doesn't need dancers,
doesn't need lights because the music is so real.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And that's kind of what I was after I saw
this weekend for real. Yeah, he performed the die Off
as well. I mean I've been to a lot of
a concerts in my life, but he performed the die Off. Yeah,
And you're absolutely right. And and he makes these records
that just like you are.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
In love with individual.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Like perfect shape with yeah, just like nuts ballads. What
what was the wedding song that everybody loved? Honey?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I like a lot too. The new Jony did.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, he's cold brout a new album.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's cold.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
What do you I'm I was gonna ask, what do
you think it will take for people to like?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Really?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I guess not because you said you're in a rediscovery mode,
which your music, in your sound, the music is so good,
but I feel like people don't know that it's there.
What do you think it will take for people to
get it?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Consistent quality and that's all I've been.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean, if people go back and listen to all
my records like and I hope that people do, there
is just intention and there's quality and the music, and
I think, you know, I can't concern myself with others,
you know, I just got to continue to make the
best stuff I can and people catch on when the're
supposed to and if you're not or not. But I
make music for me first, and so that's how a lot.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Of your covers have been going like viral and then
get picked up a lot. Do you feel like the
covers have been helping you in this rediscovery phase or
the traditional marketing of music that like labels, like, what
has it helped you best?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think that?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
So I'm glad you brought that up because my brother
kind of like twisted my arm to do the t
mixes right, the remixes that I do, I didn't want
to do them.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was like, I worked too hard.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I've worked too hard to just put free music out
and actually spend the amount of time I do to
make those like I don't just bs and like I
try to make the best verse I can do, sing
the best I can, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What I mean? Yeah? Right? And so I was like,
I'm giving this for free. This is mean, it's just
all of me.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
And my brother's like, Trevor, do you think you'll ever
not be able to write a song?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And I was like no, He's like, do the te mixes. Bro.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He's like, you're gonna have millions of new ideas. You're
gonna be fine. He's like, but you need to let
everybody know that you're on these people's level, if not
better than all these people.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So do it. And I was like, well, you know.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I do love that I can relate to you and
your brother with that. I can see how he's like, YO,
just put it out there. But sometimes i'd be listening,
I'd be like, oh no, this run could have went
on a trevel Jet and not the cover.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But YO, your voice is just.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Thank you so much, undeniable, appreciate, And so I want
to know what are some of your influences.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Brian McKnight, Gary Laveau, Stevie, Donnie Hathaway, Uh, Boys to Men, Oh,
we got to talk about that, Shawn Stockman and Boys
to Men. Those are also like people who affirmed me.
And I was like, okay, I don't need to prove
my these two guys. I was like almost crying when
(16:23):
I first met them. We have to be in my awards.
I was like, you guys, don't like. I started getting
emotion and they were like, is this guys, Like a
lot of people think I'd bes because I'm like an actress.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm fake. I'm like, bro, I'm about to start. I
don't think you understand. Like I listened to my whole life. Bro.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I sat for hours trying to riff like you. And
he was like, I justnna let you know. You're doing
us proud.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
You're doing us proud. Everything you do, we see it.
It's incredible. And don't let nobody tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
You're you're carrying the torch for us all this stuff.
And I'm just like what And I was sitting here
doubting myself. For I got here, like Trivor, they weren't.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Talking about music, probably talking about actors.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Now, why would you you just a ball head clown,
because why would you say that music.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Even they have been in no movies I'm saying, but
they probably just as a black man, you carrying the toys,
you like what you're doing music. When they were talking
to you, yes, it was.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was clearly about music.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Were being my ward and they were talking about my
music and my te mixes and vocally just.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You ain't get to that part.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
He literally started with that literally.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Okay, yeah, but when I had their stamp of approval,
I stopped out of myself in that way.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, man, man, I'm going hard.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That's good because I'd be wondering how many people know
Trevor Jackson actually does music, because even if they see
you doing couple of it's like he might be.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I might just be playing or whatever. But yeah, that's
why I think music like this though. I don't think
you can just play around and make this type of
these types of songs. Yeah, yeah, that I'm about to
put out.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
They're very very personal and connected, you know what.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I mean that was my point with When I watched
the one foot in video, I'm like, yo, he really
he's an artist.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I appreciate that people don't know that.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Even though it close serty interrupt you. Even those clothes
on that video you're talking about, like, I want to
represent poets from a time that couldn't wear those garments.
Black poets. Yeah, Elangston Hughes and Robert Frost and gra
Allan Poe. I know those aren't two black poet poets,
but I'm just saying poetry in general is something that
I think is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Words are so powerful. I want to be remembered like
those people.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I want to be like Shakespeares and people go back
million years, like did you hear this song?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He wrote about it?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
You know what I mean, and just be able to
connect because I think the biggest misconception in life is
that we're separate from each other. You know, I think
we're all We all go through the same stuff, maybe
in different fonts here and there, but it's the same.
And when you have these guidelines or these like I
come like check marks in life for You're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I made it to a point where it kind of
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I made it through that. Now I'm going to the
next thing. You have those That's why I like to
think my music could be for people.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think artists recognize that more than just the average person. Yeah,
because the arts bring everybody together.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, Oh man, there's nothing like it being out a
concert and you see in somebody agent, somebody whining, somebody
in and somebody and all sing the same song.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Vibrating Room five was on stage. I swear I was looking.
I'm like, it's so crazy. Music brings us all Together's
very cliche, but I was sitting there like it really does.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like we're all here.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Music is only universal language.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
True.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What you say music and math?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Music and math speaking math and music. Yeah, I don't
speak math at all.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Not good. Like what tipic. I'm like, I don't know.
Just you know, let's make make it right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What does real love look like to you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's a great question. I think.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Real love to me is selfless. I don't think there's
selfishness and love or real love. I don't think there's
ego and a real love. And I think the constant
wanting the best for the other person. It's something that
I think is super powerful, like somebody who just wants
your wants you to be your best and and but
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also isn't too pushy. It's a balance, you know what
I mean. But I think it's dance like you were
talking about earlier. I don't think you ever fully figured out
or ever.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Have it right.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
But I think when you have someone that's constantly wanting
the best for you and wanting you to operate the
highest version of you, that's somebody that that really loves you.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Now, are you m m Not afraid? But are you
scared to date again? Basically?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, No, I'm not. I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, you're happy, but you're single right now.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
This don't get to tell you thank you though for
having me back up here.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You always like show love and let me come up
and promote my stuff, like what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You carried a torch for us?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
What thout?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm super happy right now, that's the thing, you know.
I'm just saying so much joy.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He's definitely happy.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Hey, life is good. All I got to say is
better and batter better and batter.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Oh I like that?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I like that?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, And I think it's I totally am I try
to librate. Yeah, I definitely am. I love love, I
love to be loved. I love to love, and I
think that's from my family. Honestly, dude, I come from
an incredible, incredible family. My grandmother, my grandfather just passed
away recently.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
R I P. But these are people that.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Just instilled love into every single child, grandchild, the men,
the women. Like It's just that's just where I come
from and I can't operate on anything other than that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Now, do you have a Puma.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Deal on the way? Hopefully check me out.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
All your Instagram know they got some stuff and I
had no idea.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
When I had gone up there, I was like, I
didn't know. She was like, yes, yes, we got that
stuff all right. Cool, they have amazing, amazing clothes.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, I didn't even know that they may clues like
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like, yeah, I swear as soon as I started someone
to need that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was very comfortable. But you say, why I love you goodbye?
Oh why the good bye?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Okay, let's talk about it. I'm glad you asked that.
Last thing she said to me on the phone was
I love you goodbye.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I was like, oh, this was a great album
title though. That was literally my brain.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I was like, desert sh uh, write a song or
make an album, and yeah, that's literally how the album
title came to be. That was what we had a
conversation about, maybe like thirty minutes hour long.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And right after she's like, all right.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
I love you goodbye, and that was the last and
I was like, this is a great album title.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, how long it was that?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Have you two years?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They say, if you love something, let it go. If
it comes back to you, it's yours, right, So how
do you know that?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
She No, it ain't right, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I alwaysh nothing but the best for you know
what I'm saying. I got no ill will.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
And the music is also not about me trying to
do anything towards or just me expressing those feelings that
I was going through. And I think it's important to
see the you know, God's perspective and all the feelings
that we go through.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But I love you goodbye. Man.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
It's also the death of something and the rebirth of something.
And that's also why the outfit that I have that
you guys are seeing is kind of like that. It's
like I said, when you get broken up with it
feels like you shut up to the wedding alone and
I was like, you like got it to the altar
and no one was there. It's like, oh gosh, dang right,
So that outfit kind of is that too, and it's yeah,
it's like dealing with grief and being rebirthed into somebody
new and again. Like I said, I do it a
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million times over to be the man that I am
or see the way I see the world now, I
would do it again.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Knowing that you need more and everything you learned from
that two years ago. How do you approach relationships now
so that you're not so it seems like you're like
very like open giver.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How do you not just give it all up front?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
That it's hard for me? Because I do. I do
go hard, I go fast, and I'm like, yo, let's
see what I mean. My life for short. We're gonna
die tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That's my in my head, that's how I feel about
a lot of the time. I'm like, you know, I
think about death all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So I'm like, let's do it. Let's just you know,
let's get hitched dumpkin.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
But I think, yeah, I'm just a little more caustious
and again when I said I deserve more, I think I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Looking more for people to see me more.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I felt like it was just a lot of like,
oh my god, you're that guy, right, But it wasn't
like you ain't seen me for real, like yeah, yeah,
So I'm in search of that and that's kind of
something I'm paying more attention to.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And the small stuff too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
There's what version of yourself do you think this project reflects?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
What version of myself do I think this project reflects?
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I think it's my most emotional album. I think it's
the most yeah, emotional. I'm really in tune with him.
I'm telling you. There's one record on the album. You
can hear me crying in the back of my brother.
I was mad that he kept it on the mix,
but he was like, no, we need this, we need this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is real. It's not on it's on the album,
but the EP is you know part of it. What
songs are all on the EP? Sorry I shouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
This, but you right Now's see, let's talk about some
of the records.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
A friend of a friend, which.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Is this with that look we have when he was
playing earlier last and I was like, damn it can
go to a TV show, a movie, write a movie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They sent us love don't want me for one foot
in collection, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You collection my favorite, Like, yeah, thank you? Collection is
probably my favorite thrill.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Excuse me on that because yeah, I'm not gonna be
another broken heart that you had to your collection. That's
why I have to put it to an end before
it starts. Uh, don't do what I'm gonna let you
add me to your collection. Don't want to be another
broken heart. And then at the end and the second
hook's flips right because you're gonna be another broken heart
(26:03):
that I don't want you to be another broken heart
I add to my collection. We both aren't good at love,
but we're trying to hang on to this thing. So yeah,
that's probably my favorite song on there.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But the whole the one, the one that sound like
the country, that's what're fighting for. Okay, why why did
you decide to go through the country because and that's what.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I mean, even when I was making it, I wasn't like,
let's make a country song. I just heard it beat
and then that was like what came drinking that at
the bar alone, you know what I mean, I was like,
that's all right, cool, go there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
And that's how everything with me kind of is, is
very spontaneous and just off of the cuff, and it
came out like that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And I'm from Indiana.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
I've loved country since I was a baby, so you
know what I mean, it just kind of leaned into
that vibe.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But yeah, I've always When I was.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Mentioning my favorite artist, Gary Levoise from radcal Flats, who
was one of my favorite vocals indian I'm from Indianapolis.
My family is from Marion and cut some family in
Fort Wayne too.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
But are you related to the Jacksons?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I wish, honestly, literally before you came.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
You know that every Michael he said, he says it's
every single time you say that, because.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You don't know it's the two thous.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
I might I might do better off.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Michaels the headline of grab I'm Michael Jackson's nephew.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I got to tell you all the truth. Uh, Germaine
is my daddy. My mom had a wild night.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Say Tito, you nobody let not around it, you know,
My point is you say you Tito and say you
are Jackson.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
People started listening to your music with a different name.
I'm telling you with.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
A different air.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I'm telling you gonna be like God, my dad would
be I called him on the way here.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You told me you was going to say that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, no, my dad, you're.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Talk about da with all to your background in television,
are you working on scoring any of this music and
trying to put it into the TV side of things?
Because it does sound like very core.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
This is can I just shout out real quick you Yeah,
let's let's run across man United Masters.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Man, they're incredible.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Shout out of mind, Shout out Maria back here these people,
shout out Jesse. Um has changed my perspective on, you know,
working with the label and really putting music out. But
to answer your question, yes, I would love to do that,
and uh yeah, I think we'll all kind of be
in the process of trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I would love that though.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
So you're independent, but just distributing it through you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I'm signed to you, and yeah, we officially signed our
first it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We partnered up and then now we were like this
feels good. This feels right. Let's do it. Let's go
all the way. Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You ever hear a record back and think to yourself,
I was too honest on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, do you keep it? Or do you keep it?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Okay, gotta keep it. What's the last record you did
that on?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
It's on the album.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
You haven't heard it yet, but when it comes out,
I will tell you that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But there's one on that I'm for sure. I'm like,
should should? I? Yes? And then other means do it?
Speaker 8 (28:58):
It is gonna be mad about it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Maybe you're an overthinker, though, thank yourself out of doing
something I can tell.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I literally told my brother. I was like, dude, trying
not put this whole album out. He's like, bro, shut
it up. I just I don't know, man, I don't know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Are we going to get a tour?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yes, definitely gonna get a tour. That's my favorite place
to be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Let's get it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I'm very very stoked, especially again with this music. I
think this is such sing along music and I can't wait.
Every time I've gone on tour, it's gotten.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Bigger and it's gotten better.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
So I'm really stoked to just see how the fans
received this music and turn something that was signed into
a turn up, you know, celebrate together and and you
know happy.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I got to hear how sad this album because I
just like I would listening to T T Y savages.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't don't take this. This is personal. This is personal,
and when you're listening to it, you can.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Feel her pain, like on some like Mary J.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Blige My life type.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I love you, it's like that. I'll give you
another story real quick.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
There's a song called man of Steel on the the
on Goodbye right that's coming up, and how I'm just
showing you how close my life is to the music.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So before that call, I was telling you that I
love you goodbye call. What I do when I'm sad
is I watch superhero movies. Okay, I'm a nerd. I
don't give that Marvel DC, I don't care.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
So I'm watching Batman or Superman, right, and you're gonna
be okay man, just be strong, you know, I'm watching
the movie.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She calls.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
We get off the phone and right basically, and within
that conversation, it was like, look, you can't love me
and be you right? You can't do be this guy
and still be with me, Like, I see that that's
not gonna work. So you know that's why we can't
do it. Right as soon as I get off the phone,
I go back to watching Batman vs. Superman, and Lois
Lane walks into the bathroom and uh no, Superman walks
into the bathroom those lanes in the tub.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And he's like, what's wrong. And she's like it's impossible.
He's like, what's impossible?
Speaker 6 (30:51):
She was like, for you to love me and still
be you the exact same one I ran downstairs. I'm
telling everybod'm my gods, just so you know this actually
just happened. I'm not using this story so I can
tell her on the breakfast club like this really just happened.
Made the song that day, Man of Steel, That's one
of my favorite songs.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
When album I just ask a question, yeah please, was
it your first time watching the movie? No, exactly what
you heard the line before Treble, But.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
It came right after the phone call, like seconds, like
right when I press play, Like I didn't know it
was going to right when I press played.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
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