September 26, 2025 • 34 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Devale Ellis and Crystal Renee Hayslett Talk 'Zatima', 'Sistas', Method Acting, Music Career. Listen For More!
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getting here because listen traffic.
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And they had to pat everybody down there to walk
the middle of Detective.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Was like, I got to get there.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
It's like, what, I'm from New York, so this was
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We'll get there.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Just two.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, yeah, Season four.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Yes, yeah, crazy Yes, two episodes in obviously the season
air September eleventh. Yes, Tima, yes, the team absolutely, my bad.
I'm going straight because so all right, I want to
know why the storylines don't add.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Up between Sisters, Joe, break down what's happening first for people?
Speaker 8 (01:36):
All Right, y'all, y'all, go ahead and break it down.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
So this is the biggest thing. This is a six
month gap in between the Tima and Sisters. And this
is what when people try to understand the show, I explained,
like this, Sisters was about the four sisters and now
the fifth. Zach's character was an ancillary character. He was
an antagonist to Karen and then he became Fatima's love interests.
So Zatima is the story about Zach and Fatima, and
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Sister is about what Zach was when he was with Karen.
So there's like a six month gap in between. So
when you watch the show simultaneously, you like, it don't
make sense. She's pregnant in one she's not pregnant. Different storylines,
different timelines. So Sisters is ahead, So when you see Zach,
know the team is ahead Sisters.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
When Zack is acting crazy.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
He seemed like he ain't go through therapy yet because
he hasn't on Sisters. That's why Zach on the Team
is a lot more calm.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's been through therapy, comes back catch up.
Speaker 9 (02:29):
You need to.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
Because we've been talking about that. We gotta jump.
Speaker 10 (02:37):
There needs to be a time jump somewhere so that
because it's the same audience, you know, so it needs
to be cohesive.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Why did he write it?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Sometimes?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I think you do for he wrote he shows it
one time. But I think he had a plan for
the team. I think he wanted it to be his
own thing. He wanted to be separate. I don't think
he expected to be honest. I don't think he expected
Sisters to be on TV for this long. I we've
done ten seasons already. Yeah, we've done two seasons already
in six years. Like if you think about that's a
lot of television.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You don't stop.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
He's still going.
Speaker 9 (03:13):
But to have something on TV for six years and
people are locked into the Sisters, Yeah, and they also
are like caught audience about the team.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Yeah, even the Andy situation, even a yeah, I don't
want to give up, you know, the way. But it's
like on Sisters, I mean, well, what on the teamer right,
how she was jealous because the team of getting all
of she was getting all attention from the NFL players,
you know, help with the contracts and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
She ain't getting no attention.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But on you know, on the other show.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
You know, she Andy saved, I mean Zach saved Andy's life, you.
Speaker 8 (03:51):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
When no, it's that's both the same show. This is
why it's confusing.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
But going to your point exactly, people are confused because
the two shows at the same time, and Andy was
first like her homie, but now Fatima moving up. She
was the girl who was the assistant, and she was
the one that was behind the scenes. But now she's
about to get her law degree, and I think Andy
is a little bit jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think it's a little bit like what you don't
got time to do the stuff I want you to do.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Because what she's working on is like really big.
Speaker 10 (04:22):
It's the case for Karen, that's and the doctor and
how he's mishandling women in labor, So it's what she's
working on is very important. I think Fatima is just
getting caught up and actually growing and what she has
going on and seeing like, wait, this is my chance.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
And it's real relatable because you do got real situations
like that with groups and things like that. Do y'all
have friends that hit y'all outside the show, like, yo,
I went through that or right now at work?
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Absolutely? Yes, No, Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (04:50):
I feel like every season there's something, whether it's a
friend or a fan that stops us and says I'm
going through that right now or I've been through that.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
It's so relatable.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I got two close friends that got three baby mothers
who was just like Zach's story.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I have a friend particularly who.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Broke up with his girl, got back with her, she
got pregnant, and then it was like, dang, my new
girl is pissed because my old girl is playing. And
they still worked it out. Like the new girl and
the old girl. They found a way to co parent together.
Because not everybody is toxic. Some people find ways to
make things work. So a lot of people are like, yo,
watching y'all go through this was my life.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
You always say to yourself, Man, we didn't new stories.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
You know how back in the day, our parents can
watch the watch my story.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
Said crazy Primetime soap opera. Yeah, it's crazy. People tune
in every week just like our grandparents did every day.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Grandparents, mamas, dead, my watch my children and.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
Be mad at you'll.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'll be mad at y'all. Sometimes I'll be like, man,
I hope they don't even come up a little bit today.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Because you get over people give it a minut fingering
the street all the time.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Make it different both shows because Zach's character is very divisive.
He was written to be an antagonist to these ladies.
So when people be like, he get on my nerves,
that's what he was to do. But when they see me,
they just I can't stand you. I'm like that, I'm
doing my job. And then as a Tima, he still
has the same remnants, so he does stuff to Fatima
that even when I'm reading it, I'm like, I would
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never in broad life as a man do this, But
then I have to justify it in my mind to
act it out on television and people be like, I
just can't stand you on that show.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm like, the people you to decide to start asking
you questions, but like, why would you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Like it's really or do you answer in character? Yes,
even just not right, I'm defending Fatima. I'm like, Andy
is jealous because I literally went.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Back into it.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
But when you step back and think about it, like
she's supposed to be supporting a woman doing a job
that's supposed to be supporting black women, and she's not.
Fatima's wrong in that situation. But Zach, don't see that
Andy jealous. That's the way exact said. So when I
talk to people, I talked to him like it's the stories, Yeah, exactly,
do what you want to do. I don't give a
f of you man. And they be like, I can't
believe you act like this. I'm like, that's my character, baby.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
And I'm gonna give you the utmost, perhaps because you
are not even a mom, but the way you are
carrying on like baby mama, all of that, Like you
know what I'm saying, give me the tamping the channel
because I know you are god mother, you you have
beautiful children in your life. But what did you did
you call up Kadeen? Like, look, how was you acting while.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I was around?
Speaker 10 (07:30):
I saw how Yeah, when she was pregnant with Dakota.
My sister recently had a daughter and my brother just
had a son.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
So I've seen it while they were pregnant.
Speaker 10 (07:41):
We've been on vacation, so I like, I study everybody
in the movies, how they get up, how they walk, and.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 10 (07:47):
I had to go get re aligned after that season
because of like pushing up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
With one I got to get into it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Regular.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Oh yeah, I had to. I had my first.
Speaker 10 (08:00):
Of all, the prosthetic belly is so heavy and then just.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Like getting up and pushing like with one arm.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
How pregnant mother would I can't imagine like the pain
that they're really in carrying a babe months and then
like that it was bad.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
My back was all jacked up and shoulder.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
So you're still good with being the rich and see
in real life?
Speaker 8 (08:18):
You absolutely? I love it the power of.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Acting, right, is it true yourmothers? Yes?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Yes, I got to see while she was pregnant.
Speaker 10 (08:29):
That was the latest ones that I actually got to
see to watch and study how they move.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
How I was going to ask, how did how well
does that? How sorry, how well does that work for
you guys on screen? Like because you have a real
life relationship, but also when does it hurt that you
have a real life relationship and you guys are working together.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
Oh what scene was the season was that? This is
one of Now I'm getting mixed up with show.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
It was a season where we were really at odds.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Season two of was the Tima.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah, so we couldn't even like talk like in real life.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
I remember season season two we actually got into an
argument because we weren't talking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We're very close, like her and her and my wife
are close.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Me and her are close. We talk like every single day.
We're doing season two. I'm getting into Zach mode and
Zach's not feeling Fatima. So I'm not texting, I'm not calling.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
We not talking.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
N Man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She's just like, Yode, what's up? And I'm just like,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Don't what's uping right now?
Speaker 8 (09:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
We was really having conversations. I was like, listen in
order for me to go to my job. Because people
don't understand this too.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
I remember this.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
We filmed twenty We filmed twenty episodes in ten days. Jesus,
So how am I supposed to be happy, go lucky
in one minute and then be angry? And in this
season was when I found out that my mom and
my brother was going through drug stuff. I talked about
my dad and I was going through therapy. I had
to cry like every other scene. So I was really
just in a bad place and a lot of time
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people don't realist with actors. You wear that when you
walk around, Like when I'm in a bad place as
Zach and I gotta go do something. Sometimes the remnants
come out. Sometimes I have to apologize to people like
my fault, like I don't mean that. And in that
situation it was like that, you know, we got into
an argument and I said, ya, I don't think I
can do this number.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can't do this no more. She's like, what you mean?
And I was like, it's just a lot. It's heavy
to me this character.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So you're a method actor for real?
Speaker 10 (10:15):
For real?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Surely? Yeah, man, Like the last couple of years has
been a lot. I did another project with Courtney where
my character went through a lot. I lost my daughter.
Oh shout out to old gray Man.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
And I had to do press while filming and I
broke down in an interview. As matter of fact, it
was the essence interview where I broke down and I
was like, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. Yeah, I just come
off of filming Old Gray Maynor where I lost my
daughter in a tragic accident. So I really was just
exhausted mentally, and I'm doing an interview and I was tired,
and I broke down, and.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
People like, DN, what is it going through? Yeah, And
I'm like, I was going through it, but I was
in character, so m I and.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So when you have that, when you shoot ten days
and you in character that long, do you not go home?
You're be like, babe, I'm just gonna get a hotel now.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I stay on campus, stay on campus, and we lock in.
Because even my kids don't like seeing me like that.
Like I'm auditioning for projects now, I'm walking around saying
lines in my head, going through stuffs, and they just
like dad going.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Through something, right, But that's what actors go through, and
people don't realize it's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
But I love what I do, and I love that
I have somebody like this, my homie, my best friend.
When I'm going through something, she'll be like, bro, you
are devoured right now.
Speaker 10 (11:27):
Essence interview. I remember calling you. I'm like, bro, like,
you're putting a lot on yourself right now. And I've
been on him about therapy. I'm like, you need to
go talk to somebody because I feel like black men
like they hold up everything and.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Everyone around them.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
And as a friend, I can see like, this is
a lot on you right now, and I can see
it in real time on that interview, and I was like,
I know my friend is hurting right now.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
She called me.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, it wasn't no text, no DM. She called me
to yo and I was like, what's up. She's like
facetimeing me. He's like, what's going on? And a lot
of people don't realize that, like when you're going through stuff,
you really need people to give you grace, gave your
empathy and shout out to like y'all too for talking
about this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You talk about mental health all the time with man.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
And that's why I actually loved planes that because Zach
is going through a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He lost his child and I lost my child.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
So doing that scene and sisters and now having to
go through this withard Tima my homegirl here she do
you remember the scene?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I remember the end of season four is the scene.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
It's a real bad scene and it goes back to
when I watched Kay Miscarry and we're doing the scene, everybody'
shooting fast, like, yo, that was dope.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I go back in the tent, lost it, lost it, crying.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
I'm like, and then my barber comes in. It's just like,
what's the matter. I'm like, I need I need something.
I need somebody. So they get Crystal. Crystal come in.
She they call k and they're like the value all right.
I said, y'all don't realize when you go through that
trauma and that pain and you got to bring it
back up to show people it don't just go away.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And I had to think about that for weeks afterwards.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
So it's good to have somebody that this journey I'm
doing with somebody, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But shout out to y'all for talking about mental health.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
You talk about it all the time, too, envy because
as a farther, I think you got six kids now
six six People don't know until that man breakdown how
much he had to carry before.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It was like, it's enough.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Now, you know, we allow and black women we don't
even allow black women to vent as much as we should,
but we allow our women to vent more than men.
But in the team much specifically, we are talking about
mental health for black men and.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Disconnect after the show's over, though, like you know, cause
you said you stay away from your family while you
film me. Once filming and everything is completely, it's time
to go back home. How do you just disconnect and
get that character out of What.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
People don't know is that I disconnect from You're talking
about social media and everything. There's points in social media
where you won't see me too much. This stuff I
feeling before. There's stuff that I just collab on, and
I take about four weeks and I just disap here
from everybody because I got to get back to me.
I got to get back to spending time with my kids,
my wife, my family.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I can't just be Zach all the time. And even
when you're on.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Social media, you Zach, So I just got to put
it down and you like, fuck.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You, Zach.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
You ain't working for real though.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
For real people come at you. I can't believe you
treat for Teama like that. If I ever see you
in the street, and I'm just like, damn, Like this.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Is a TV show. But I get you invested, appreciate it.
They keep watching, but it gets to be a lot
some times.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
How do you respond to the people that really like
relate to Zach, like the guys there are guys, there
are real life Zachs, like my son's father wrong Rome
loves Zach. Zach Like, how do you give advice to
the real Zachs of the world.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I tell them, because I do have a couple of
really close friends who are Zach's and I tell them, like,
you have to you have to give yourself grace and
but also don't be afraid to do the work. Bro Like,
what we saw growing up a lot of us growing
up in the nineties and two thousands was a lot
of toxic behavior from a lot of people that we
just said was.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Normal, very true, It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
It wasn't it wasn't it was, but it was hurting.
It was hurting a lot of us. And we just
have to change our mentality and realize that it's okay
to be vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It's okay to say no, it's okay to say I
don't want to do this. And the more I speak
to these young men who talk to me about they say,
you know what I thought, being exact was the best
I could be, which is having sex with a bunch
of different women and having babies and chasing the streets.
And now they're starting to see different versions of that,
because there are different versions of black men who aren't
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doing what we grew up thinking was the only way
to get out.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So now I'm just like, look at other people who
you want to inspire to be like, and then follow that.
And also I tell them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Get off social media, which is crazy because I built
so much of my empire on social media. I constantly
tell them to get off social media. All of these
young men, like, how do you also.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Get it is?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
It is a drug, it's addictive, it's not healthy, it's
a business.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know what I'm saying. It's not real. It's not
a real space.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It's shaping narratives about ourselves. Like you're allowing other people
to shape narratives about you. You know how wild that
is to know who you are, to know what you're about,
and then to get online and reason and be like,
then you start believing that, yeah, it's real.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
I was going to say after that, because before the
Essence interview, you and Kadean were here, and when I
watched the Essence interview and I watch people respond to
the conversations that it started from men we're also really powerful. Yes,
when you see that, are you because you're very open?
But is there now like a different sense of responsibility
because all your open moments cause moments like that and
you don't even do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I don't, but but all I can do is be open.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Ever since I was a little kid, I always spoke
my mind like truth is always like you see, I
hashtag devous truth because I want people to say. I realized,
this is not what I'm saying the world is. This
is what I've experienced, this is what I've been through.
And if what I've been through make you feel something
good or bad, then I'm just sharing. And that's all
I can do. If it made you feel something bad
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and you can take away something and become better because
of it, cool, if you took away something good, cool.
But I got to share and tell my truth to
fulfill my purpose. You know, ever since I was young,
I felt like God was like, yo, you have a
purpose that's bigger than just doing whatever it is you
think it's going to be done in Brooklyn, and stay
with that. Don't ever fore wary or that, don't hide
from it, don't go on a different adjacent just listen
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to what God is telling you and do that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And for me, it's sharing my life but good to
bad and the ugly.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I didn't expect to share about the miscarriage with K
but then all these women started talking about they went
through it, perimenopause. We shared about that. Women are talking
about that mental health with men. It's like, these are
conversations we should be having. That's why all of the
taboo topics that are causing conversations that people are upset
about is what we need as a people.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't think people are upset.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just love the honesty right because mhm, what your
relationship is is not Jess and Chris's relationship. It's not
me and Gie's relationship. It's not Charlemagne and his wife's relationship.
It's not forgot sorry to learn, but it's.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Yes, don't know, don't put me in.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
You need to check.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But the reason I love it shows people that it's
not perfect. Yes, because what we seen was a lot
different in our industry growing up.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We've seen to go to the club and chase this.
We've seen that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I wish there were other people, other besides the Cosby
Show that showed us how to do.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Things, Envy. I'm glad you.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I'm so glad you said that, because the truth is,
when I was growing up, I said to my dad
and my uncles, I wish I would have told me
some of this stuff when I was in my teenage years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Why why did you wait till I'm older?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
And they always tell me, well, we don't talk about that,
but think about how you could have helped me, right,
think about how So that's what I use. I'm like,
you know what, I'm gonna tell the truth. It may
not be pretty, but hopefully it helps somebody.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I got four boys, Hopefully it helps them.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So that's all I can do with this, especially with
the Tima people like, why do you like playing Zach
Because Zach is toxic, Zack is angry, Zach is trauma, Zach.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Is all of us.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
But I get to be Zach and make poor decisions
and then watch people see how that poor decision affected
my girl. So now the next dude that thinks he
wants to be Zach looks up and says, oh, that's
how I affected Fatima. Let me not do that's my girl.
So that's you know, to me, it's just Another example.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Chris, have you playing Zach ever helped your marriage with Kadeen?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Like absolutely, absolutely, just having those conversations in real life
and being like, yo, if Zach would have told, for example,
if Zach goes to Fatima and tells him he knows
about Chazz, rather than going off the rail and be like,
I'm gonna press this, nigga, that's me now.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
If I have an issue, now going right to my wife.
I don't care what the issue is. This is what
it is.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I don't know how you think you want to deal
with it, but it's how I feel. Once I tell
her how I feel about it, then she's like, Okay,
we can.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Handle it this way. If I'm in agreement, we rock.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
If I'm not in agreement, she'd be like, hey, you're
the leader in this, I'll let you take the role.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But having the conversation is more important and just going
off and doing it on your own. You weren't always
like that, No, I was not, because I wasn't taught
like that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
My father was like, Yo, as the man of the house,
is your responsibility to take the stress off your wife.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Don't go to her and tell her everything.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
That's what he told me, and I was like, you
know what, I feel that until I realized that my
decisions when I wasn't telling her was bringing her more stress.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And then that's when I learned like, I'm going with
her anyway. And my father changed too. I talked to him.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I came here and told you how I had that
conversation with pops. Now my pop's coming to me. He
was like, I had this issue. I went to talk
right to your mother. And I was like, what happened?
And he was just like, YO and mom talking. Now
they going on vacations. And then my father says to me,
you know, I feel like I became a better man
because I started to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I said, no, it's because you also started to share.
He shared, and when he should, he started to get
other people's perspectives.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So I think it's both because it's all about communication. Yeah, true,
talking is received, talking received.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They're true, Crystal.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
A lot of us, a lot of women see themselves
in Fatima. What do you want women to take away
from your character? Maybe in general, but I guess more
so when I watch your character, I'm like, when does
when does she take care of herself?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
She doesn't.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
She always showing up for her meaning for everybody.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that, because there
was another interview I did with all the sisters and
they talked about men Zach's relationship, and when I look
at it from the outside looking in, it's not a
relationship that I would desire in real life because it's
very toxic. It's a lot of different energies, and I
just like to live a peaceful life, you know, And
(21:46):
which is part of the reason why I go so
heart as my real character Crystal, like my true character
who I am, because I don't want women to feel
like that's exactly what I want, which is why we
like we add stuff to the scenes to show people
resolution or how we're working through things.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
One thing that Fatima does not.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
Do is take care of herself. She doesn't pour back
into herself. She's constantly pouring into other people, the Andes
and Zak and all his stuff that he has going on.
But I wish that they would write in some stuff
where she can actually just pour back into herself.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Because you started off as a costume designer, right, Yes.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
I actually met you when I was styling Tyler at
Global Citizens in South Africa.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
That's when I first met you.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
I was styling Tyler then, yes, started off as a
PA and then worked my way up through costumes.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So you were responsible for bad I was?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
She said, no that, So.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
How did you make your transition? Like, how did you
go from costume designer to being in front of the camp?
Speaker 10 (22:50):
Well, I was always pursuing acting behind the scenes, like
anybody who has a real dream, you have to have
a day job and music. You have to have a
day job, something to pay the bills. And I always
try to put myself around what I'm trying to do,
which was act. So what she's doing while I was
what I'm doing now.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
She's doing acting and music currently and thank you?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (23:16):
So yeah, I fast forward worked my way up from
a PA at the studio to costume designer to styling
Tyler for five years. And at the time I started
styling Tyler, I stopped auditioning. I was actively pursuing acting
really really hard, and nothing was really coming. So when
Tyler offered me the position, I was like, dang, does
he think I can't act? Because I had auditioned for
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some of his stuff, but he had never seen the auditions.
So when I finally got the gust to tell him
I was producing Sisters with him. It was season one.
I'm breaking it down for costume design, and I just
told him. I was like, listen, I've been wanting to
ask these are my stories, my friends stories, because we
were giving him this is what we're going through in
Atlanta dating in our thirties, and he was like, I
love this idea, and he gave him the opportunity and
(23:57):
then here we are, very full circle moment. And I
think being coming from a PA and working my way
through the system, I just have a different lens as
an actor, a different appreciation for every single person in
the room on the set that a lot of actors
(24:17):
may not have because they didn't come all the way through.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
So I love my journey.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Everybody's journey is different, but I'm very appreciative of the
journey that God took me on.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Okay, so what's up with his music?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
DA?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (24:27):
I'm working? It's my schedule.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
Jest has been so crazy, and you know what studio
time is like, it takes a while.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
It's not just one of them like microwave things, you know.
So just taking my time where that wanted to be right.
So is music something that you've always wanted to do?
Oh yeah, since a kid like I've been into music.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I do want to ask a question. When you walked in,
you were telling me that your sons are playing football. Yes,
now you've been up here many times. He talked about
football has beat up your body? Yes, put you on string.
You with programs up early in the morning. You miss
so much much. Why do you want your sons to
play football?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Here's a funny part. I don't want them to play football.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
They want to play football because their dad played football
and it's popular. I would prefer them to run track
because track is all about discipline.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You got to eat different.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
It's a skill set that people don't understand learning how
to run properly. It takes the proper force, production, it
takes everything. I just want them to understand discipline so
that they can apply that discipline to anything in life.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
If if you're great at doing one thing, you're great
at doing everything because you've learned how to do it.
And I think sports is the ultimate way to test
their will and challenge them without having to, you know,
deal with the bs that goes on out in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Dance for girls, dance is what that discipline is a
different discipline.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
How many girls you guys? I got to have four girls,
two boys, So.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You've been to a lot of dance recitals on.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This weekend seven seven pm. But continue. I don't have past.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I don't miss it.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I don't miss going to dance recitals with my sister.
But that discipline is exactly why I want them to
play sports. I just want them to be great humans,
great people, be good men, and just know that, Okay,
when the adversity comes, I can work through it.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
So what I say, it definitely builds characters, like I
feel like us both being former athletes, has like.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
That discipline carries your entire life.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It really does.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, what did you play?
Speaker 10 (26:17):
I was a competition cheerleader, which is like equivalent to dancing.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
But that schedule like rigorous.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, people don't understand it. I don't know if it's
a sport. It's considered sport, But cheerleading and dance as
much as they practice goodness, as much as the effort
they put into.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
It, like we would get hurt worse than football. We
don't have him there. You tour Achilles, Achilles, broken nose, concussion,
broken nose that's falling from the base. I flew in college.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
I was a base in middle school through high school
and a girl came down, twist straight to the elbow,
straight to my nose, and you keep going, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Finishing, keep going.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
I don't care if the bone is out your arm.
You finished the routine. Our coach was shout out France fears.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Yeah, I want to That standard is what I think
is missing from us right, like everything is very very soft.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
One thing I will say about my son's playing football.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I like the fact that they get to be rugged
and it's like, yo, you got to push through that guy,
but he's standing there. Dad can't give me those qz
he pushed through them, or you don't you know, like
I think sports back in the nineties two thousand was,
you know, coaches with cursing kids, screaming kids challenge and
that now you can't do anything. My brother used to
coach a Konarsi high school. He doesn't anymore, but I
think he got written up for quote unquote speaking violently
(27:30):
to a kid which was raising his voice, and.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I said, how do you hand no? None of my coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Then back up.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
My coach used to say the wildest thing. Shout out
to Jeffrey Ishmael. He used to say the wildest stuff
to me. I'm not even gonna say it on the radio,
but it will get you locked in, Like, let me focus.
This man done cursed me out and threatened to kill me.
But I know I got a locked in and I
do my job. But you didn't think he was gonna
kill you, But in my life thought he was gonna
kill me. I always knew that man loved me more
(27:58):
than probably his own kids.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But if he was cursing me out, then that means
I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Doing something and you knew it was gonna be consequences.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Absolutely, there's no consequences for people these days.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
They can say what they want, they can do what
they want and think it's hurting us as a community.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It most definitely is. I's still with my son asked.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
To this day, Yes, to this day, you better stoop
down niggas so I can get.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
So Crystal, now going back to what you said about
the role right, you said, looking at it as Crystal,
you would not take this ship that's happening and you
would look out for yourself. You would be the total opposite.
How does that affect dating in your real life?
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Yeah, you know, I think it's made me more aware
of my boundaries and my nose. You know, you have
to have your nose. What you're not willing to deal with,
what are your deal breakers? And I feel like this
character has also helped me identify. Ye, I don't want that.
And you know, I don't want a guy with a
bunch of kids, you know. And it's crazy I say that,
(29:01):
but my father has it's four kids by four different women,
and it is one of the most amazing men I know,
you know, loves us all. He's just a good stand
up guy. So I know it's possible. But for me,
and I think it's also the temperature of the culture
right now, and like the toxicity when it comes to
baby mamas and the drama.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
I'm good, I'm cool. So it scares you from dating
or it's just like not scarcely from dating.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
But I just know, like I don't want a guy
that's got a bunch of kids out over the place,
you know, maybe not an ex convict.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
You know that If y'all have you ever try to
set her up.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I try to stay away from that. I don't want
to have no parts in center. Okay, and you get
it didn't work out, and they was both mad at
me you and I.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Was like, I thought y'all would work well together. Yeah,
because I saw some synergy.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
And then you know what you think your friend is
in the daytime. They don't act that way. Andy's friend
was acting. I found out she don't act that way.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Guys, I said, you know what, I let all of them.
You can go to Cupid. I don't want no. I
love you my friend. Whoever you find, I will embrace
that my brother. But I don't want no. Just don't
be a Zach.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
You said, don't be but Zach not saying that all
of Zach is good.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
There are some guys who have had a past that
have changed, like we've all like we all have our
things that we've done. And not saying people can't be redeemed.
It's just what I've seen and the drama that people
deal with. I don't want to welcome that, you know
what I'm saying. But if I meet somebody and he's
just a great because Zach is a great guy, he's
honest to his core. He's a really good guy and
(30:42):
I can't I cannot say that he's not.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
We all are for sure the boy.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Have you given Crystal and any tips on her new podcast,
because because she's launching the podcast called Keep It Positive Sweetie,
the Black Effect podcast.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I will say was one of the people that told
us she should have a podcast.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I know that's right.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
This one thing I want to do is see all
my friends when I want to come. I want to
call all my friends and then be like, yo, we're
all going here on this island. So when she started
talking to me about her story and her journey and
everything that she believes, and I was like, you should
like talk about this, She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
If you don't know, you got to just do it.
And then that's all I have to saying. She took
it up and ran with it, and now it's like
she's a beastwooted.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I went to the last live show she had in
the land. It was crazy. She came out like Beyonce.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
It was funny because the lights was down and they
didn't know that she was in the arena, so the
lights come down and everyone then the lights come up
and she's there with her background dances and all these women.
It just felt good to watch my friend at that moment,
like she out there doing her thing and.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
People are doing her I felt good.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
And I'm telling you, make sure y'all tune in and
keep it positive, sweetie. I know I do make sure
that tune is.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Going to be.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I can't make the announcement right, well, he just did
in to keep it posit.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Expects same, you know, right.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
I mean, this is our we're in two years in
more of just showing people that were more alike they
were not, yes, more of bringing people closer to Christ,
more of welcoming people because I feel like the Christian
community has done such a great job at pushing people away.
I wanted people to feel seen and feel loved and
know that, hey, you're good here, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So I just got some pushback on that on Instagram.
Mind posted.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I talked about church, you know, I talked about like
I said, I'm not anti church.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'm not anti God because I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
But I just don't believe in going to the same
church family that I felt like did me so dirty
every Sunday to save face.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So I haven't found a church home yet. And I
guess people got.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Upset because I said I wasn't in church every Sunday.
But that's just my story. I can't sit out here
and just say I believe in God and praise God
and then people like, well I don't see you in church. Well,
this is why I got my feelings hurt. I felt judged,
and I'm looking for the right place.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
You know, we have a you know, I do my
mental wealth export every year, and we have a panel
about that specific topic. Yes, my good sister Debbie Brown,
like that was her? I did she We have a
topic about that in particular.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Remember the episode I had a bunch of different people
from all different walks, background, sexual purpose of everything, showing
that we're not as far from God as we think
we are because a lot of us feel like shame
and certain days were like I can't even talk to him,
and when we.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
All sat down, we were like dang, yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
A lot that's how I felt with church shame because
I'm like, I don't always live perfectly, so if nobody
they gonna just be talking about me, so I don't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I literally felt and shout out to Brenda because Brenda.
She made me.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, Brenda Palmer made me feel so welcome, and she's
not a judgmental person at all.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
She's the one that made.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Me feel like, Yo, if everybody was more christ Like
like this, I would go every sthing. Yeah yeah, but
it's hard because I know that I'm not living right.
I'm trying, you know what I'm saying, But I'm not perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I don't know the deacons and the ushers and.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Hello, well yeah nothing, just go ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But exactly a little bit.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
And you know when they do do the communion, it
was liquor in some of them. So y'all gotta know
that the new.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
Let welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
For first of all, I want to slut y'all for
getting here because listen traffic.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And they had to pat everybody down there to walk
the middle of Detective.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Was like, I got to get there.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
It's like, what, I'm from New York, so this was
easy for me. I was like, walk down fifty fifth
We'll get there.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Just two.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, yeah, Season four.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Yes, yeah, crazy Yes, two episodes in obviously the season
air September eleventh. Yes, Tima, yes, the team absolutely, my bad.
I'm going straight because so all right, I want to
know why the storylines don't add.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Up between Sisters, Joe, break down what's happening first for people?
Speaker 8 (01:36):
All Right, y'all, y'all, go ahead and break it down.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
So this is the biggest thing. This is a six
month gap in between the Tima and Sisters. And this
is what when people try to understand the show, I explained,
like this, Sisters was about the four sisters and now
the fifth. Zach's character was an ancillary character. He was
an antagonist to Karen and then he became Fatima's love interests.
So Zatima is the story about Zach and Fatima, and
(01:59):
Sister is about what Zach was when he was with Karen.
So there's like a six month gap in between. So
when you watch the show simultaneously, you like, it don't
make sense. She's pregnant in one she's not pregnant. Different storylines,
different timelines. So Sisters is ahead, So when you see Zach,
know the team is ahead Sisters.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
When Zack is acting crazy.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
He seemed like he ain't go through therapy yet because
he hasn't on Sisters. That's why Zach on the Team
is a lot more calm.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's been through therapy, comes back catch up.
Speaker 9 (02:29):
You need to.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
Because we've been talking about that. We gotta jump.
Speaker 10 (02:37):
There needs to be a time jump somewhere so that
because it's the same audience, you know, so it needs
to be cohesive.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Why did he write it?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Sometimes?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I think you do for he wrote he shows it
one time. But I think he had a plan for
the team. I think he wanted it to be his
own thing. He wanted to be separate. I don't think
he expected to be honest. I don't think he expected
Sisters to be on TV for this long. I we've
done ten seasons already. Yeah, we've done two seasons already
in six years. Like if you think about that's a
lot of television.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You don't stop.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
He's still going.
Speaker 9 (03:13):
But to have something on TV for six years and
people are locked into the Sisters, Yeah, and they also
are like caught audience about the team.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Yeah, even the Andy situation, even a yeah, I don't
want to give up, you know, the way. But it's
like on Sisters, I mean, well, what on the teamer right,
how she was jealous because the team of getting all
of she was getting all attention from the NFL players,
you know, help with the contracts and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
She ain't getting no attention.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But on you know, on the other show.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
You know, she Andy saved, I mean Zach saved Andy's life, you.
Speaker 8 (03:51):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
When no, it's that's both the same show. This is
why it's confusing.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
But going to your point exactly, people are confused because
the two shows at the same time, and Andy was
first like her homie, but now Fatima moving up. She
was the girl who was the assistant, and she was
the one that was behind the scenes. But now she's
about to get her law degree, and I think Andy
is a little bit jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think it's a little bit like what you don't
got time to do the stuff I want you to do.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Because what she's working on is like really big.
Speaker 10 (04:22):
It's the case for Karen, that's and the doctor and
how he's mishandling women in labor, So it's what she's
working on is very important. I think Fatima is just
getting caught up and actually growing and what she has
going on and seeing like, wait, this is my chance.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
And it's real relatable because you do got real situations
like that with groups and things like that. Do y'all
have friends that hit y'all outside the show, like, yo,
I went through that or right now at work?
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Absolutely? Yes, No, Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (04:50):
I feel like every season there's something, whether it's a
friend or a fan that stops us and says I'm
going through that right now or I've been through that.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
It's so relatable.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I got two close friends that got three baby mothers
who was just like Zach's story.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I have a friend particularly who.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Broke up with his girl, got back with her, she
got pregnant, and then it was like, dang, my new
girl is pissed because my old girl is playing. And
they still worked it out. Like the new girl and
the old girl. They found a way to co parent together.
Because not everybody is toxic. Some people find ways to
make things work. So a lot of people are like, yo,
watching y'all go through this was my life.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
You always say to yourself, Man, we didn't new stories.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
You know how back in the day, our parents can
watch the watch my story.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
Said crazy Primetime soap opera. Yeah, it's crazy. People tune
in every week just like our grandparents did every day.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Grandparents, mamas, dead, my watch my children and.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
Be mad at you'll.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'll be mad at y'all. Sometimes I'll be like, man,
I hope they don't even come up a little bit today.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Because you get over people give it a minut fingering
the street all the time.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Make it different both shows because Zach's character is very divisive.
He was written to be an antagonist to these ladies.
So when people be like, he get on my nerves,
that's what he was to do. But when they see me,
they just I can't stand you. I'm like that, I'm
doing my job. And then as a Tima, he still
has the same remnants, so he does stuff to Fatima
that even when I'm reading it, I'm like, I would
(06:22):
never in broad life as a man do this, But
then I have to justify it in my mind to
act it out on television and people be like, I
just can't stand you on that show.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm like, the people you to decide to start asking
you questions, but like, why would you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Like it's really or do you answer in character? Yes,
even just not right, I'm defending Fatima. I'm like, Andy
is jealous because I literally went.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Back into it.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
But when you step back and think about it, like
she's supposed to be supporting a woman doing a job
that's supposed to be supporting black women, and she's not.
Fatima's wrong in that situation. But Zach, don't see that
Andy jealous. That's the way exact said. So when I
talk to people, I talked to him like it's the stories, Yeah, exactly,
do what you want to do. I don't give a
f of you man. And they be like, I can't
believe you act like this. I'm like, that's my character, baby.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
And I'm gonna give you the utmost, perhaps because you
are not even a mom, but the way you are
carrying on like baby mama, all of that, Like you
know what I'm saying, give me the tamping the channel
because I know you are god mother, you you have
beautiful children in your life. But what did you did
you call up Kadeen? Like, look, how was you acting while.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I was around?
Speaker 10 (07:30):
I saw how Yeah, when she was pregnant with Dakota.
My sister recently had a daughter and my brother just
had a son.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
So I've seen it while they were pregnant.
Speaker 10 (07:41):
We've been on vacation, so I like, I study everybody
in the movies, how they get up, how they walk, and.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 10 (07:47):
I had to go get re aligned after that season
because of like pushing up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
With one I got to get into it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Regular.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Oh yeah, I had to. I had my first.
Speaker 10 (08:00):
Of all, the prosthetic belly is so heavy and then just.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Like getting up and pushing like with one arm.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
How pregnant mother would I can't imagine like the pain
that they're really in carrying a babe months and then
like that it was bad.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
My back was all jacked up and shoulder.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
So you're still good with being the rich and see
in real life?
Speaker 8 (08:18):
You absolutely? I love it the power of.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Acting, right, is it true yourmothers? Yes?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
Yes, I got to see while she was pregnant.
Speaker 10 (08:29):
That was the latest ones that I actually got to
see to watch and study how they move.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
How I was going to ask, how did how well
does that? How sorry, how well does that work for
you guys on screen? Like because you have a real
life relationship, but also when does it hurt that you
have a real life relationship and you guys are working together.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
Oh what scene was the season was that? This is
one of Now I'm getting mixed up with show.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
It was a season where we were really at odds.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Season two of was the Tima.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah, so we couldn't even like talk like in real life.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
I remember season season two we actually got into an
argument because we weren't talking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We're very close, like her and her and my wife
are close.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Me and her are close. We talk like every single day.
We're doing season two. I'm getting into Zach mode and
Zach's not feeling Fatima. So I'm not texting, I'm not calling.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
We not talking.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
N Man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She's just like, Yode, what's up? And I'm just like,
what's up?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Don't what's uping right now?
Speaker 8 (09:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
We was really having conversations. I was like, listen in
order for me to go to my job. Because people
don't understand this too.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
I remember this.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
We filmed twenty We filmed twenty episodes in ten days. Jesus,
So how am I supposed to be happy, go lucky
in one minute and then be angry? And in this
season was when I found out that my mom and
my brother was going through drug stuff. I talked about
my dad and I was going through therapy. I had
to cry like every other scene. So I was really
just in a bad place and a lot of time
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people don't realist with actors. You wear that when you
walk around, Like when I'm in a bad place as
Zach and I gotta go do something. Sometimes the remnants
come out. Sometimes I have to apologize to people like
my fault, like I don't mean that. And in that
situation it was like that, you know, we got into
an argument and I said, ya, I don't think I
can do this number.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can't do this no more. She's like, what you mean?
And I was like, it's just a lot. It's heavy
to me this character.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So you're a method actor for real?
Speaker 10 (10:15):
For real?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Surely? Yeah, man, Like the last couple of years has
been a lot. I did another project with Courtney where
my character went through a lot. I lost my daughter.
Oh shout out to old gray Man.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
And I had to do press while filming and I
broke down in an interview. As matter of fact, it
was the essence interview where I broke down and I
was like, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. Yeah, I just come
off of filming Old Gray Maynor where I lost my
daughter in a tragic accident. So I really was just
exhausted mentally, and I'm doing an interview and I was tired,
and I broke down, and.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
People like, DN, what is it going through? Yeah, And
I'm like, I was going through it, but I was
in character, so m I and.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So when you have that, when you shoot ten days
and you in character that long, do you not go home?
You're be like, babe, I'm just gonna get a hotel now.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I stay on campus, stay on campus, and we lock in.
Because even my kids don't like seeing me like that.
Like I'm auditioning for projects now, I'm walking around saying
lines in my head, going through stuffs, and they just
like dad going.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Through something, right, But that's what actors go through, and
people don't realize it's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
But I love what I do, and I love that
I have somebody like this, my homie, my best friend.
When I'm going through something, she'll be like, bro, you
are devoured right now.
Speaker 10 (11:27):
Essence interview. I remember calling you. I'm like, bro, like,
you're putting a lot on yourself right now. And I've
been on him about therapy. I'm like, you need to
go talk to somebody because I feel like black men
like they hold up everything and.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Everyone around them.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
And as a friend, I can see like, this is
a lot on you right now, and I can see
it in real time on that interview, and I was like,
I know my friend is hurting right now.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
She called me.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, it wasn't no text, no DM. She called me
to yo and I was like, what's up. She's like
facetimeing me. He's like, what's going on? And a lot
of people don't realize that, like when you're going through stuff,
you really need people to give you grace, gave your
empathy and shout out to like y'all too for talking
about this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You talk about mental health all the time with man.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
And that's why I actually loved planes that because Zach
is going through a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He lost his child and I lost my child.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
So doing that scene and sisters and now having to
go through this withard Tima my homegirl here she do
you remember the scene?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I remember the end of season four is the scene.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
It's a real bad scene and it goes back to
when I watched Kay Miscarry and we're doing the scene, everybody'
shooting fast, like, yo, that was dope.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I go back in the tent, lost it, lost it, crying.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
I'm like, and then my barber comes in. It's just like,
what's the matter. I'm like, I need I need something.
I need somebody. So they get Crystal. Crystal come in.
She they call k and they're like the value all right.
I said, y'all don't realize when you go through that
trauma and that pain and you got to bring it
back up to show people it don't just go away.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And I had to think about that for weeks afterwards.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
So it's good to have somebody that this journey I'm
doing with somebody, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But shout out to y'all for talking about mental health.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
You talk about it all the time, too, envy because
as a farther, I think you got six kids now
six six People don't know until that man breakdown how
much he had to carry before.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It was like, it's enough.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Now, you know, we allow and black women we don't
even allow black women to vent as much as we should,
but we allow our women to vent more than men.
But in the team much specifically, we are talking about
mental health for black men and.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Disconnect after the show's over, though, like you know, cause
you said you stay away from your family while you
film me. Once filming and everything is completely, it's time
to go back home. How do you just disconnect and
get that character out of What.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
People don't know is that I disconnect from You're talking
about social media and everything. There's points in social media
where you won't see me too much. This stuff I
feeling before. There's stuff that I just collab on, and
I take about four weeks and I just disap here
from everybody because I got to get back to me.
I got to get back to spending time with my kids,
my wife, my family.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I can't just be Zach all the time. And even
when you're on.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Social media, you Zach, So I just got to put
it down and you like, fuck.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You, Zach.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
You ain't working for real though.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
For real people come at you. I can't believe you
treat for Teama like that. If I ever see you
in the street, and I'm just like, damn, Like this.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Is a TV show. But I get you invested, appreciate it.
They keep watching, but it gets to be a lot
some times.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
How do you respond to the people that really like
relate to Zach, like the guys there are guys, there
are real life Zachs, like my son's father wrong Rome
loves Zach. Zach Like, how do you give advice to
the real Zachs of the world.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I tell them, because I do have a couple of
really close friends who are Zach's and I tell them, like,
you have to you have to give yourself grace and
but also don't be afraid to do the work. Bro Like,
what we saw growing up a lot of us growing
up in the nineties and two thousands was a lot
of toxic behavior from a lot of people that we
just said was.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Normal, very true, It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
It wasn't it wasn't it was, but it was hurting.
It was hurting a lot of us. And we just
have to change our mentality and realize that it's okay
to be vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It's okay to say no, it's okay to say I
don't want to do this. And the more I speak
to these young men who talk to me about they say,
you know what I thought, being exact was the best
I could be, which is having sex with a bunch
of different women and having babies and chasing the streets.
And now they're starting to see different versions of that,
because there are different versions of black men who aren't
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doing what we grew up thinking was the only way
to get out.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So now I'm just like, look at other people who
you want to inspire to be like, and then follow that.
And also I tell them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Get off social media, which is crazy because I built
so much of my empire on social media. I constantly
tell them to get off social media. All of these
young men, like, how do you also.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Get it is?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
It is a drug, it's addictive, it's not healthy, it's
a business.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know what I'm saying. It's not real. It's not
a real space.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It's shaping narratives about ourselves. Like you're allowing other people
to shape narratives about you. You know how wild that
is to know who you are, to know what you're about,
and then to get online and reason and be like,
then you start believing that, yeah, it's real.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
I was going to say after that, because before the
Essence interview, you and Kadean were here, and when I
watched the Essence interview and I watch people respond to
the conversations that it started from men we're also really powerful. Yes,
when you see that, are you because you're very open?
But is there now like a different sense of responsibility
because all your open moments cause moments like that and
you don't even do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I don't, but but all I can do is be open.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Ever since I was a little kid, I always spoke
my mind like truth is always like you see, I
hashtag devous truth because I want people to say. I realized,
this is not what I'm saying the world is. This
is what I've experienced, this is what I've been through.
And if what I've been through make you feel something
good or bad, then I'm just sharing. And that's all
I can do. If it made you feel something bad
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and you can take away something and become better because
of it, cool, if you took away something good, cool.
But I got to share and tell my truth to
fulfill my purpose. You know, ever since I was young,
I felt like God was like, yo, you have a
purpose that's bigger than just doing whatever it is you
think it's going to be done in Brooklyn, and stay
with that. Don't ever fore wary or that, don't hide
from it, don't go on a different adjacent just listen
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to what God is telling you and do that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And for me, it's sharing my life but good to
bad and the ugly.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I didn't expect to share about the miscarriage with K
but then all these women started talking about they went
through it, perimenopause. We shared about that. Women are talking
about that mental health with men. It's like, these are
conversations we should be having. That's why all of the
taboo topics that are causing conversations that people are upset
about is what we need as a people.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't think people are upset.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just love the honesty right because mhm, what your
relationship is is not Jess and Chris's relationship. It's not
me and Gie's relationship. It's not Charlemagne and his wife's relationship.
It's not forgot sorry to learn, but it's.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Yes, don't know, don't put me in.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
You need to check.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But the reason I love it shows people that it's
not perfect. Yes, because what we seen was a lot
different in our industry growing up.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We've seen to go to the club and chase this.
We've seen that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I wish there were other people, other besides the Cosby
Show that showed us how to do.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Things, Envy. I'm glad you.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I'm so glad you said that, because the truth is,
when I was growing up, I said to my dad
and my uncles, I wish I would have told me
some of this stuff when I was in my teenage years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Why why did you wait till I'm older?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
And they always tell me, well, we don't talk about that,
but think about how you could have helped me, right,
think about how So that's what I use. I'm like,
you know what, I'm gonna tell the truth. It may
not be pretty, but hopefully it helps somebody.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I got four boys, Hopefully it helps them.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So that's all I can do with this, especially with
the Tima people like, why do you like playing Zach
Because Zach is toxic, Zack is angry, Zach is trauma, Zach.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Is all of us.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
But I get to be Zach and make poor decisions
and then watch people see how that poor decision affected
my girl. So now the next dude that thinks he
wants to be Zach looks up and says, oh, that's
how I affected Fatima. Let me not do that's my girl.
So that's you know, to me, it's just Another example.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Chris, have you playing Zach ever helped your marriage with Kadeen?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Like absolutely, absolutely, just having those conversations in real life
and being like, yo, if Zach would have told, for example,
if Zach goes to Fatima and tells him he knows
about Chazz, rather than going off the rail and be like,
I'm gonna press this, nigga, that's me now.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
If I have an issue, now going right to my wife.
I don't care what the issue is. This is what
it is.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I don't know how you think you want to deal
with it, but it's how I feel. Once I tell
her how I feel about it, then she's like, Okay,
we can.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Handle it this way. If I'm in agreement, we rock.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
If I'm not in agreement, she'd be like, hey, you're
the leader in this, I'll let you take the role.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But having the conversation is more important and just going
off and doing it on your own. You weren't always
like that, No, I was not, because I wasn't taught
like that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
My father was like, Yo, as the man of the house,
is your responsibility to take the stress off your wife.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Don't go to her and tell her everything.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
That's what he told me, and I was like, you
know what, I feel that until I realized that my
decisions when I wasn't telling her was bringing her more stress.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And then that's when I learned like, I'm going with
her anyway. And my father changed too. I talked to him.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I came here and told you how I had that
conversation with pops. Now my pop's coming to me. He
was like, I had this issue. I went to talk
right to your mother. And I was like, what happened?
And he was just like, YO and mom talking. Now
they going on vacations. And then my father says to me,
you know, I feel like I became a better man
because I started to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I said, no, it's because you also started to share.
He shared, and when he should, he started to get
other people's perspectives.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So I think it's both because it's all about communication. Yeah, true,
talking is received, talking received.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They're true, Crystal.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
A lot of us, a lot of women see themselves
in Fatima. What do you want women to take away
from your character? Maybe in general, but I guess more
so when I watch your character, I'm like, when does
when does she take care of herself?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
She doesn't.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
She always showing up for her meaning for everybody.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that, because there
was another interview I did with all the sisters and
they talked about men Zach's relationship, and when I look
at it from the outside looking in, it's not a
relationship that I would desire in real life because it's
very toxic. It's a lot of different energies, and I
just like to live a peaceful life, you know, And
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which is part of the reason why I go so
heart as my real character Crystal, like my true character
who I am, because I don't want women to feel
like that's exactly what I want, which is why we
like we add stuff to the scenes to show people
resolution or how we're working through things.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
One thing that Fatima does not.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
Do is take care of herself. She doesn't pour back
into herself. She's constantly pouring into other people, the Andes
and Zak and all his stuff that he has going on.
But I wish that they would write in some stuff
where she can actually just pour back into herself.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Because you started off as a costume designer, right, Yes.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
I actually met you when I was styling Tyler at
Global Citizens in South Africa.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
That's when I first met you.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
I was styling Tyler then, yes, started off as a
PA and then worked my way up through costumes.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So you were responsible for bad I was?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
She said, no that, So.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
How did you make your transition? Like, how did you
go from costume designer to being in front of the camp?
Speaker 10 (22:50):
Well, I was always pursuing acting behind the scenes, like
anybody who has a real dream, you have to have
a day job and music. You have to have a
day job, something to pay the bills. And I always
try to put myself around what I'm trying to do,
which was act. So what she's doing while I was
what I'm doing now.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
She's doing acting and music currently and thank you?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (23:16):
So yeah, I fast forward worked my way up from
a PA at the studio to costume designer to styling
Tyler for five years. And at the time I started
styling Tyler, I stopped auditioning. I was actively pursuing acting
really really hard, and nothing was really coming. So when
Tyler offered me the position, I was like, dang, does
he think I can't act? Because I had auditioned for
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some of his stuff, but he had never seen the auditions.
So when I finally got the gust to tell him
I was producing Sisters with him. It was season one.
I'm breaking it down for costume design, and I just
told him. I was like, listen, I've been wanting to
ask these are my stories, my friends stories, because we
were giving him this is what we're going through in
Atlanta dating in our thirties, and he was like, I
love this idea, and he gave him the opportunity and
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then here we are, very full circle moment. And I
think being coming from a PA and working my way
through the system, I just have a different lens as
an actor, a different appreciation for every single person in
the room on the set that a lot of actors
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may not have because they didn't come all the way through.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
So I love my journey.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Everybody's journey is different, but I'm very appreciative of the
journey that God took me on.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Okay, so what's up with his music?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
DA?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (24:27):
I'm working? It's my schedule.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
Jest has been so crazy, and you know what studio
time is like, it takes a while.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
It's not just one of them like microwave things, you know.
So just taking my time where that wanted to be right.
So is music something that you've always wanted to do?
Oh yeah, since a kid like I've been into music.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I do want to ask a question. When you walked in,
you were telling me that your sons are playing football. Yes,
now you've been up here many times. He talked about
football has beat up your body? Yes, put you on string.
You with programs up early in the morning. You miss
so much much. Why do you want your sons to
play football?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Here's a funny part. I don't want them to play football.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
They want to play football because their dad played football
and it's popular. I would prefer them to run track
because track is all about discipline.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You got to eat different.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
It's a skill set that people don't understand learning how
to run properly. It takes the proper force, production, it
takes everything. I just want them to understand discipline so
that they can apply that discipline to anything in life.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
If if you're great at doing one thing, you're great
at doing everything because you've learned how to do it.
And I think sports is the ultimate way to test
their will and challenge them without having to, you know,
deal with the bs that goes on out in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Dance for girls, dance is what that discipline is a
different discipline.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
How many girls you guys? I got to have four girls,
two boys, So.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You've been to a lot of dance recitals on.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This weekend seven seven pm. But continue. I don't have past.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I don't miss it.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I don't miss going to dance recitals with my sister.
But that discipline is exactly why I want them to
play sports. I just want them to be great humans,
great people, be good men, and just know that, Okay,
when the adversity comes, I can work through it.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
So what I say, it definitely builds characters, like I
feel like us both being former athletes, has like.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
That discipline carries your entire life.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It really does.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, what did you play?
Speaker 10 (26:17):
I was a competition cheerleader, which is like equivalent to dancing.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
But that schedule like rigorous.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, people don't understand it. I don't know if it's
a sport. It's considered sport, But cheerleading and dance as
much as they practice goodness, as much as the effort
they put into.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
It, like we would get hurt worse than football. We
don't have him there. You tour Achilles, Achilles, broken nose, concussion,
broken nose that's falling from the base. I flew in college.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
I was a base in middle school through high school
and a girl came down, twist straight to the elbow,
straight to my nose, and you keep going, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Finishing, keep going.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
I don't care if the bone is out your arm.
You finished the routine. Our coach was shout out France fears.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Yeah, I want to That standard is what I think
is missing from us right, like everything is very very soft.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
One thing I will say about my son's playing football.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I like the fact that they get to be rugged
and it's like, yo, you got to push through that guy,
but he's standing there. Dad can't give me those qz
he pushed through them, or you don't you know, like
I think sports back in the nineties two thousand was,
you know, coaches with cursing kids, screaming kids challenge and
that now you can't do anything. My brother used to
coach a Konarsi high school. He doesn't anymore, but I
think he got written up for quote unquote speaking violently
(27:30):
to a kid which was raising his voice, and.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I said, how do you hand no? None of my coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Then back up.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
My coach used to say the wildest thing. Shout out
to Jeffrey Ishmael. He used to say the wildest stuff
to me. I'm not even gonna say it on the radio,
but it will get you locked in, Like, let me focus.
This man done cursed me out and threatened to kill me.
But I know I got a locked in and I
do my job. But you didn't think he was gonna
kill you, But in my life thought he was gonna
kill me. I always knew that man loved me more
(27:58):
than probably his own kids.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But if he was cursing me out, then that means
I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Doing something and you knew it was gonna be consequences.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Absolutely, there's no consequences for people these days.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
They can say what they want, they can do what
they want and think it's hurting us as a community.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It most definitely is. I's still with my son asked.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
To this day, Yes, to this day, you better stoop
down niggas so I can get.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
So Crystal, now going back to what you said about
the role right, you said, looking at it as Crystal,
you would not take this ship that's happening and you
would look out for yourself. You would be the total opposite.
How does that affect dating in your real life?
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Yeah, you know, I think it's made me more aware
of my boundaries and my nose. You know, you have
to have your nose. What you're not willing to deal with,
what are your deal breakers? And I feel like this
character has also helped me identify. Ye, I don't want that.
And you know, I don't want a guy with a
bunch of kids, you know. And it's crazy I say that,
(29:01):
but my father has it's four kids by four different women,
and it is one of the most amazing men I know,
you know, loves us all. He's just a good stand
up guy. So I know it's possible. But for me,
and I think it's also the temperature of the culture
right now, and like the toxicity when it comes to
baby mamas and the drama.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
I'm good, I'm cool. So it scares you from dating
or it's just like not scarcely from dating.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
But I just know, like I don't want a guy
that's got a bunch of kids out over the place,
you know, maybe not an ex convict.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
You know that If y'all have you ever try to
set her up.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I try to stay away from that. I don't want
to have no parts in center. Okay, and you get
it didn't work out, and they was both mad at
me you and I.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Was like, I thought y'all would work well together. Yeah,
because I saw some synergy.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
And then you know what you think your friend is
in the daytime. They don't act that way. Andy's friend
was acting. I found out she don't act that way.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Guys, I said, you know what, I let all of them.
You can go to Cupid. I don't want no. I
love you my friend. Whoever you find, I will embrace
that my brother. But I don't want no. Just don't
be a Zach.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
You said, don't be but Zach not saying that all
of Zach is good.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
There are some guys who have had a past that
have changed, like we've all like we all have our
things that we've done. And not saying people can't be redeemed.
It's just what I've seen and the drama that people
deal with. I don't want to welcome that, you know
what I'm saying. But if I meet somebody and he's
just a great because Zach is a great guy, he's
honest to his core. He's a really good guy and
(30:42):
I can't I cannot say that he's not.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
We all are for sure the boy.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Have you given Crystal and any tips on her new podcast,
because because she's launching the podcast called Keep It Positive Sweetie,
the Black Effect podcast.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I will say was one of the people that told
us she should have a podcast.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I know that's right.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
This one thing I want to do is see all
my friends when I want to come. I want to
call all my friends and then be like, yo, we're
all going here on this island. So when she started
talking to me about her story and her journey and
everything that she believes, and I was like, you should
like talk about this, She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
If you don't know, you got to just do it.
And then that's all I have to saying. She took
it up and ran with it, and now it's like
she's a beastwooted.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I went to the last live show she had in
the land. It was crazy. She came out like Beyonce.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
It was funny because the lights was down and they
didn't know that she was in the arena, so the
lights come down and everyone then the lights come up
and she's there with her background dances and all these women.
It just felt good to watch my friend at that moment,
like she out there doing her thing and.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
People are doing her I felt good.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
And I'm telling you, make sure y'all tune in and
keep it positive, sweetie. I know I do make sure
that tune is.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Going to be.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I can't make the announcement right, well, he just did
in to keep it posit.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Expects same, you know, right.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
I mean, this is our we're in two years in
more of just showing people that were more alike they
were not, yes, more of bringing people closer to Christ,
more of welcoming people because I feel like the Christian
community has done such a great job at pushing people away.
I wanted people to feel seen and feel loved and
know that, hey, you're good here, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So I just got some pushback on that on Instagram.
Mind posted.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I talked about church, you know, I talked about like
I said, I'm not anti church.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'm not anti God because I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
But I just don't believe in going to the same
church family that I felt like did me so dirty
every Sunday to save face.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So I haven't found a church home yet. And I
guess people got.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Upset because I said I wasn't in church every Sunday.
But that's just my story. I can't sit out here
and just say I believe in God and praise God
and then people like, well I don't see you in church. Well,
this is why I got my feelings hurt. I felt judged,
and I'm looking for the right place.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
You know, we have a you know, I do my
mental wealth export every year, and we have a panel
about that specific topic. Yes, my good sister Debbie Brown,
like that was her? I did she We have a
topic about that in particular.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Remember the episode I had a bunch of different people
from all different walks, background, sexual purpose of everything, showing
that we're not as far from God as we think
we are because a lot of us feel like shame
and certain days were like I can't even talk to him,
and when we.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
All sat down, we were like dang, yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
A lot that's how I felt with church shame because
I'm like, I don't always live perfectly, so if nobody
they gonna just be talking about me, so I don't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I literally felt and shout out to Brenda because Brenda.
She made me.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, Brenda Palmer made me feel so welcome, and she's
not a judgmental person at all.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
She's the one that made.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Me feel like, Yo, if everybody was more christ Like
like this, I would go every sthing. Yeah yeah, but
it's hard because I know that I'm not living right.
I'm trying, you know what I'm saying, But I'm not perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I don't know the deacons and the ushers and.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Hello, well yeah nothing, just go ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But exactly a little bit.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
And you know when they do do the communion, it
was liquor in some of them. So y'all gotta know
that the new.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Season as the team was on BT Plus right now,
thank you for joining us so much.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Appreciate you guys'll man the breakfast club.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the
breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Finish, y'all done.
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