September 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Michael Blackson Talks Honest Open Relationships, Respecting His Women & Why America Is Fvcked. Listen for More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast
Club finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Done morning.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Everybody's DJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are
the breakfast Club. Law La Ros is here as well.
We got a special guest in.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The building, Donald Trump's favorite African, Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Black's ladies, gentlemen, Welcome. Are you feeling man? Good morning? Brother?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
How you figure I'm done? Trump favorite African? Got to
be You don't think so we know.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
What I'm about?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Elon Musk, you know what You're right? Wow, Michael Black.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
No, I'm all about whoever's in office.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You gotta work with them one way or another. Whether
and I see you, guys, I mean I see d
L D killing Trump every day. I'm like, listen, that's
not gonna help us. You want to help us, Tell
this nigga what we need. Don't go bashing him and
all that stuff. I'm all about whoever's in office. Try
to get where we get out of them instead of
just killing every day and making fun going hard on them.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's not gonna help it. I know Dell doesn't reach
out to you a few time.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah, and that goes back to Aveny Africa.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Like you know in Africa, the leaders are the ones
in charge, the all the rich ones. They're the one
that you have to like work with if you won't
get anything done. You know, that just had my confidence. Man,
So I just kept that same manergy anywhere I go.
Who I wasn't offer. You got to find a way
to work with them. You can't just go ros you know,
bashing him every day. You're not gonna get shit out
of him that way.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You get a lot of flag for that. What for
your opinion on Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I mean I don't talk much about it online
because my fan base are like, you know, majority young
black people, And what's what's my fan base?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So I can try to keep that, you know, give
some stuff to myself.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Well, how are things at home? You just had another baby?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, I mean I haven't had one eighteen years, so
all of a suddenly, you know, a new one comes.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Out eighteen years eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Started eighteen and going to college. Yeah, man, you big
one in six years that when it came in, wo you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just got offild support. Now you just got to support. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Just just finally fleeing my last payment, A whole new nigga.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
The you know. The thing's the thing with Chad support.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You know, having kids when you're twenty five, twenty six
years old, you know you were struggling. I think now
money is not an issue. So one this money's not
an issue. Nothing bothers you. I think the most important
thing is money. Yeah, and you know I don't have
money problems anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
What listen, what made you want to start over?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I mean I didn't want to start over. I mean
I just got lazy with my poor game.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I didn't want to you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the baby was, you know, the twins, it was
really bad experience, as you know, court parents. With the mom,
we had a really big we couldn't get along with
the court fighting. We fight from the day they were
born all the way to like eighteen years old. It
was really bad, you know what I mean. And Rader
didn't believe how bad it was till like the last
six years. I had to take over the Family Wizard.
(02:53):
So when you're in family court and you can't get
along with your stiff, your other there's an app called
Family Wizard. You communicate on the app where you Yeah,
it's a family app where you communicate where you don't.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Have to talk to this lady. And then but the
court watches it, m so it's.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Like, what's that for, like baby mamas and baby daddy.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah exactly, but I mean quarters over now, so I
could say it now, but I had I say, no, Wrider,
you don't believe you think I'm the problem. I'm gonna
have you act like you are me and you communic
kill with this lady. And she found out what a
multipate what's the looking for? No, yeah, that's that one
public school.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You have to excuse me.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And she found out. She's like, damn, this one is
really nut. So I had to communicate with her. For
the last five years I didn't. I'm like, no, I'm
paying you to talk to this lady. I don't want
to talk to him. And now she realized that I
wasn't a problem, you know, I just had a really
crazy you know. I don't want to talk much about
the being MoMA because after all, she did a great
job raising my boys. They are a students in college
and I'm very proud of them, and that's one good
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thing she did. But she did ruin the bond that
I had with my boys. I mean at least the
last five six years really, because you're always together, I
always together back and you've got the point when she
got remarried, got married, and I remaded because I.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Never I never married her. Thank god.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
When she got married and when the relationship was over,
she went back again on my nervous again.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Please, it's always best like let the thee find some dick,
because dick comes from it down, you know what I mean,
Like me and Rider will all again. I'll give her
some dick in it. She back to loving and being
normal again.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And Rider is still your fiance. Are you going to
marry her?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
She gave you got engaged the.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Pair once she said engagements expired.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now she guess.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But I mean every time you look at somebody getting
divorced every day, I'm like, you know, I don't be.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Part of this divorce.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Just gonna keep her, yeah, just keep.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Looking for a new proposal coming. We're still together because.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
You know the back of forth that you had online
and kind of confused people because well you you had
to come out to when she posted it like she's
like she's alone when she walks up. I want to
talk someone sometimes And then you reacted then you retracted
what you reacted with and you talked about facetiming or
from the road, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, that was about something else and I'm not ready
to talk about yet. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know, I'm not gonna say she's using postpartum as
an excuse, you know, because the way she made it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Sam and me, I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I try not to reach too much comments, you know,
I just knew when it came out, I had people
hit me like, hell, why she acting like you know, yeah,
like you know so what I mean reading comments or
even reading her text message. I went in the defense
mode and like, you know, hey him, like, don't talk
about the hands that feeds you whatever, And I kind
of that's probably went a little hard, you know. But
we recently. I was bored the last couple of years,
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and you know I did that. I did the TV
show at Top Verry Studios, which is a four episode
poplar And now we've been waiting for like one won't
do this again because this show is probably the most
amazing thing that I've done. And I'm like, okay, he said,
I want to do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We just waited.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I said, well, I'm waiting. I'm taking something else.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I took on the Love and Hit out Miami, and
it's actually coming out of November, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Like the new season, thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I completely took over the show like this pretty much
the Michael Blackson Show.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So I took onto this. I said, you know what,
now you're going to become a.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Reality star, a real reality star, and to make it
in reality people.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Like to know what you're going through, so you know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And my reply was more to like, you know what,
let me make a little bit more famous, let me
go online, just talk ship and let her reply back.
Let's go back and forth, make up and that what
you can make. I said, you can make a whole
lot of money be in reality. So after the fact
I told her, I said, listen, it was I wasn't
this can come on bad place. I'm more trying to
like help you become reality famous. That's why I was
hoping we went back and forth. You know, I didn't
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tell it let's go back and forth on purpose. I
was hoping we went back and forth. But you know,
my team, like Mike, you know, postpartum is a very
serious thing, so don't play with They don't talk, so
I kind of like talk about it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
You just have to you know, you got to be
there for her. But do you think with her if
she is, you know, going through postpartum depression, and is
she okay with film, you think she's gonna be cool
on the show?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
I mean this show is it's a lot there's a
lot more. Wann come on you shoot shot the show? Yeah,
we started already, we started. We started, it goes up,
it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
On through January and then and then they decide, you know,
on the next season. But it's a lot more coming
on this shell. That probably had something to do with
the postpartum thing, but I can I couldn't talk about it.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'm ruined the show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What did you mean when you said, if you think
making a baby with me will turn me into Russell Wilson,
you better try getting mother socker.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, you know a couple of Russell will says, Everyone's
drink and maybe instead she ended with her Stephan Dicks instead.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Jesus the way that Cardi hopes he will be there
for Michael Jesus, she.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Picked the wrong football player. Well, I mean she knew
from the door. Well who Michael Blacks was?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know what I mean? You didn't so that is
Michael Blackson.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I mean, and then when I became honest with myself,
which was after I broke up with the girl before Rider,
and I realized that I just can't be with one person.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And I've been honest from the door, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And is it the African then you like, I don't wife,
you need to have more than one wife.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I mean my wife might be I mean, I'm not
you know, I mean to have more than one wife.
It's either a religious thing or some type of chief there's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Allowed to have that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I mean, I love to have more than my wife.
But that sounds like a lot of problem.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I'm okay, you don't want to marry nobody, you just
have them there.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I just I mean, I don't mind having a one
great woman that I know has my bag and that
she's the one. She's the one that has my bag
and does everything for me and do things right.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But once in a while, you know, I like to
do She okay with that?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Now, I remember there was a contract that y'all had
in place. Y'allill have a contract because remember on that
show that we did before you did love Hapipe right,
the relationship show there was like an agreement where you're like,
look what she gave you a certain amount of women
that you can have out the month, and then once
you exceed that quota, you and the dog.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
It was a quarter she was it was like once
a month, but there was once a month.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I mean I kind of like start doing two or
three times a month.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Okay, But what I try to do, I try to
keep it, you know, very simple. Me like two three
girls and that I knew and familiar with instead of
picking up strangers. You know, you pick up strangers. Wake
up in the morning, your rolex is gone, your ship
is going. So and that's the part that and we're
still all gained about that to today because most of
the chicks that I messed with have been around for
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like four or five years.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And she felt like that's a relationship as well. Working Ghana.
You got work in Ghana? What do you mean, ladies?
You gotta.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I had I had somebody in.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Ghana, somebody for just one person.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, I had somebody Gunna. But you know, she's a
little s.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Potentials came. I'm not sure Jesus suspect I'm not you know, no, no, no,
she's just full of ship.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't want to get into details. Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't want to take this wrong way.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But everything going on with Diddy, you didn't say, you
know what, I don't want to have these multiple relationships.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Outside of my relationships.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's like because you with all these women, and now
it takes what women to be like.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Two three and the whole lot that's a whole lot
of two three a month is a lot the same
people you want them to be, like, Oh no, I
keep my circle clothes. I try to keep my circle
clothes and intimate that way, you know. And I'm very
I treat every woman with respect. I think that's the
most important thing.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You cheat them with respect and always have receipts.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You always have receipt And I have a nephew that
plays in the NFL, and I got a lot of
young guys that plays in the NBA, and I tell
my to listen, you guys have be careful.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You have you need receive for everything you do.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
If a girl comes and visit you, you know, you
walk that girl to the elevator, you give a hug.
The cameras always watching and when she gets them texting hate.
Make sure you got home sack. Always keep a receipting
you know, never leave wrong for anybody to accuse you
of anything. You know how your rapis is gonna hug
you at the elevator, nigga, you know what I'm saying.
So besides, I treat everyone, every every person that I'm with,
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I treat them well and respectful.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And you know they got crazy. That's the women, right,
be honest, be honest and treat them Mike.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
But see, that was the thing that Ryder had a
problem with because she was like, Yo, why are you
so nice to the girls that I know you got
to you two and three? But she's like, yes, that's
where it feels like a relationship because you're keeping contact,
keeping in contact with these girls after you're saying you're
only saying a few times out the year, taking care
of me, take care of them like you're taking them
to breakfast. That's what she was betting about. But you
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don't need to eat, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
That was one issue we had with her most hated
side check of mind. It was in Vegas and we
I was playing at this particular particular Cassino, and they
offered me like dinner like STK or whatever, and I'm like, okay,
I'm took her.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
To go eat.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
It's a nice restaurant.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And then you know, the manager of the manager of
the club happened to be a good friends rider.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And then this nigga like, you know, doing some.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Fucking guy coach ship texting rider ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Mike is here with another another you.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Know girl, you're looking out for her? What I did,
you know, sugar.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Even when I'm in public, I don't like being parking
with another woman alone because I hate somebody to pictures
and get the mine. So I always make sure I
invite two or three, whether it's homies or girls. I
make sure it's more than just me and this person.
So one of my homies, I invited one of my
homies gonna have dinner. I say, I'm gay. Come my, damn.
You know I'm me SDK Rich come on right, So
it's even me and him and her, you know Ben
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and he like this little little Eastern motherfucker texting her.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Niggas here with another woman. So we're sitting there.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
They might try to sneak video just sent to her
and then the girl caught on to it, like cursing
and mount in the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
You know, and it's the bigger scene.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
It became a much bigger scene.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Is a big deal though.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Man, they got the bag of donuts and the trustle
fries and the freaking wag.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Google. Man, you can't be going snatch. You don't go snach.
Hm we snitched another nigga?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Man, what I yeah, I don't know. It depends like
you said that was his homegirl though, because.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, but still you know what I mean, Like, I'm
not I wasn't putting that kind of stress on my home.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
No, he wasn't getting You're get right, because that's what.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I got a question? You said you were in love
and hip hop? Maam? Who else was on the cast?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Because the same thing, you know, Uh, it's trick that
because it's still there, got trainers there, Amarra is still there,
so you thewn' I'm like, I'm the new one.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Mean, uh of course I'm right now, I'm watch.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, it's very interesting. That ship really fucked my life up.
I don't know why why, but you know what.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
You're walking into before you get there, Michael, you.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Know why was I bored. Why your life, especially, I'm
not gotta pay me a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Let me tell you what watch you have to watch?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
November? November. Did you really miss the birth of your
son because you want to go get coffee? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
So yeah, I did, mind you. I wanted this kid
to be born on Monday because when I the people
on Monday, I'm called Joe. Co joke is You're born
on Monday, your coo joke. So the goal wasn't gonna
be born on Monday. So we did Monday all day
went for this little nigga to come out. There's a
little African Chinese nigga to come out, and I'm like,
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it's freezing in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I hate the cold.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, I'm African warm blood. It's overnight now when no
money is over, not Tuesday. And I didn't want this
nigga got a whole new name now, you know, because
Tuesday you are like Quarbina. That's the name for the boy.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
If you're Tuesdy. Quarbena is no respecting any Gunnes out
there with Qua being the name.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
In fact, one of my homies who's the ex president's
son in law, he's a miss Quadbinner. He actually living
from Jersey and shout out to you. But I'm not
named my son quad Beina. It just sounds too you.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Know, Tuesday, Tuesday tu girly.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Quar Beena sounds girly.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
So now we don't miss fucking Monday, miss Kojo and
now the niggas Quadbina.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm like, when is quad ben coming to fuck out?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You know what I mean? So I'm waiting.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It's freezing and there.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm like, I'm go grab me something to get out
here to go, grab something to eat and drink whatever,
I'll be back. And I left out the hospital, drove
like twenty minutes to go find something.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You drove even wore. No, hell no, I drove.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Got in the car, drove when, got something to eat
and now and then she texted me out here the
baby might be coming soon.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I said, okay, no problem.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Let me put this hospital name in the GPS And
I put it in a GPA pull up and is
the wrong hospital? I get to find out there's six
of this fucking name. Hospital has six different the sixth
locations with the same name. So now I'm even further away.
As soon as I walk in to the hospital. The
nigga already out, was crying with a little birthmark on
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his stomach.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What really happened? Michael? What was her name?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Seriously? I was in a whole different So I was
in Arizona. That's where she lives. It wasn't home for me.
I ain't got no bitches in Arizona.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
He really was upset, like you know, like the cold hospitals.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To get some He didn't just go. It was so
cold when I got in the car. I didn't eve
turn the air. It was one hundred degrees in Arizona.
And I kept the mother for an air off. I
just wanted some heat bag in my fucking body. And
I came back and I went to the wrong hospital.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Would showed it that we No, I just went there
for the baby's birth. She lives in.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
We have a home, we have a place in Arizona.
That's where she stat That's what she says. Yeah, we
don't live together.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Whole time out. I need my together.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We don't live together. Man, this is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Man, Why don't be all right what she said?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
This interview?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Ye worse interviews she did.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So you live in Florida, she lives I live living
out of Los Angeles, so y'alln't live with each other
at all, never live together.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
She comes over over there because.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You and you asked for her hand in marriage. I
mean we got it.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Together wanted, but he asked for her hand in marriage
because she wanted to get married. He didn't want to
ever get married.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Mm hm you know that.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
To show this is what it is, we have therapy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We live in different you know, I prefer living.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So how often do you visit I we see each
other quite often, at least every at least every every
other week.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
California, Arizona, Miami.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I have a house back in East and Delaware, so
we were and Ghana so well.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Over the place Delaware.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, I was raised in Philly. I built my house
in Delaware, like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
When we'd be in the mall. But when I used
to work in the mall from Delaware, and people used
to be like, Michael Blackson was just in here, and
we'd be like, no, he wasn't, Like yes, he wasn't
here all the time. So we just never see you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But we live there in Delaware. Uh, you never had
no work that I.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Did at one point, but not even serious. My work
is mostly like l a mm hmm.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, you screwed your face up Delaware and got some bodies.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I mean I didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I didn't never that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I didn't got that.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I mean the all you probably could see something here
and there, but I didn't have no nobody.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Why would you post a baby with a picture of
George Jefferson, George Jefferson and Chico Bean?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Sam? And why did?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm still waiting for his little old infant to head
to grow?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Man, I'm like, this baby look.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Like he he was born with a freaking two hundred
credits card. They were like he struggling going through. Now
he's very doable, she sent me. You know, when I'm
not there, I get a video every day and his.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Head slowly growing back.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But if I think that whole headline thing is it's
a Ghana thing for some reason, like most babies and
boys in Ghana born withre like this receiving headline and
eventually your head comes back, you know, so hopefully his
ship would come out sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Congratulations to for all I invested in you doing back
in Ghana.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Man, that's dope.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, built the school. I see what Treasure Island.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
What about Treasure Island?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Is that yours? No it's not nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No no, no no.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Me and DC on Fly was planning on doing a
retreat a Treasure Island.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Just no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I mean the school was something I always wanted to
do back when I was going back home twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I just had to figure out how I was going
to get it done.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And when I finally did it, I said to myself,
Oh God, this is what a legacy is. I didn't
know what legacy was prior to that too. I walked
in and I see my name on the school, and
I see the kids.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Are happy, and the game education.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Free every day and free that, and I feel like
my leg my legacy.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Is finally complete, you know. I feel like it don't
matter what happened to me now. I'm like, I feel
like I've done something that would be that would be
taken away.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, that's big.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And you're here right now because you're here for the
New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Actually, my first time doing something this mainstream. You know,
I'm I've never been Madia mainstream guy. I'm I'm more,
you know, I mean, I've never they never really gave
me the opportunity to do something like this. So shout
out to uh the crew, Greg and the rest of
the crew from Caroline's.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You know, they don't want to put this together.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I heard as a partner of it as well.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Okay, yes, I'm excited about doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You think you never got those opportunities, you know what
I'm It's just never been my thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But don't get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It's plenty of plenty of black money, plenty of hood money,
made millions of dollars with my black fans and my
underground fans, So you don't really bother me, man. I mean,
like I said previously, you know where in my life,
it's way surpassed what I expected. So I never really
try to. You know, if they came after that, you know,
came after me, I'll go and.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Get it done.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
But they don't really like you know, invited me to
you know, these festivals. So I'm excited about this. I mean,
don't get it wrong. I do have white fan base,
especially the young college ones and and especially from like
shows like Wild and now We The fan base are
mostly young white kids and black kids, So I gained
a lot of fans, a lot of race, from wild
and out shut out to Nick for bring me on
(21:29):
like a million times on that show. So in social
media I'm sure helps to the worst for your audience, definitely,
you know. So, Yeah, I'm excited about the New York
Comedy Festival going on the second week in November, So
make sure y'all get tickets.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
All rock right, hard rock? Ye? Can you look at
us like we like we know I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Hard rock.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It, she says. Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
The venue is Music World at hard Rock Hotel, New
York City, that's on forty eighth Street. You need tickets,
you can go to Nycomedyfestival dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, I'm excited about doing doing that a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
And you also on your own tour. America's fucked tour.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The America's fucked. You know, why are you allowed to
say that you're not what you mean?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm a citizen there, I got my papers.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
After thirty years.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
In America, I finally became and I'm glad I did
it before all.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This things started happening. You know. Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
In fact, Rider don't want to push me to doing
it because prior to that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Let me see, I applied for my citizenship about fifteen
years ago, took the test, you know, easy test. I
studied the test and passed the test, right, man, I
passed the test. And then that day this motherfucker did
not want me to be a citizen that day, you know,
because I was, you know. He they asked them to
try to incriminate that. He asked me questions where I
could easily incriminate myself. He asked me to say, do
(22:52):
you or any taxes or chosuple or anything. I said, well,
I owe taxes, but I'm on a payment plan. So
he said, well, before ipprove your citizenship, like to see
you know the history of your payment plane. And I
sent this motherfucking my payment plane. He said, well, it
wasn't consistent enough, so you're not an honest person, so
we're denying your citizenship. And once you get denied, you
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have to wait five years to apply again.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Why were you consistent enough?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I have no idea what he meant by dad, I mean,
I don't know. You know, I thought I thought I
was consistent enough, you know, But did you use Michael
when I was the Philly one or the Ghana one combination.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Dishonest person.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So yeah, so, and I got so frustrated with I
was like, you know what, fuck being an American. As
long as I could renew my green card every ten years,
I was okay with going. So I'm let me back
into work. That started mattered to me, you know, But
then it's when you're not the citizen. You have to
travel to Europe and you have to get a visa.
So it became so difficult. And when Rodick came in
my life, she was the one that pushed me, like,
(23:52):
might get it done. I'm like, I'm a fuck me
in American. She's like, Mike, go get it done. And
then we found a lawyer and I didn't have to
pay this guy. He just went in like a kind
of free promotions in exchange for promotion. He set it
all up and I went to did It did It
test in La. This time I had a young black,
thirty year old black man interview with me. He was
a fan and Big Lone Sory show. I became American.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Oh see he can't choose see but stop.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
D So why do you think Americans don't notice song Americans?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Is you have a comedian president man, this guy is
doing the funniest ship on earth, and I'm and it's
it's comedy to me.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
As comedian, I was rooting for him only because it
was make our job easier.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You know, I didn't vote. I didn't vote.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm saying I was with because I wanted to have
a great wanted to be president with me. I went
yes because I wanted to have I wanted to comedy.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He was funny.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was finding his comedic president. I mean, there was
nothing gonna be fun in by Kamala. We can't make
fun of Kamala. It's a strong black woman. We need
somebody to make fun of.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's why I was.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I was woting fun because I wanted a lot of
material and it worked. I mean, this guy friends, do
you see what friends told him?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They want to statu your liberty back because of Trump?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Do you see that.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I didn't know, Satu your liberty came from friends after
that bitch came from all them?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What d else did? What he called you? We didn't, No, no,
we didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We didn't talk about that much. The last my talk
to d L.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I actually he does this comedy thing on Tuesday or
Wednesday night at LA and you know we talked briefly,
you know, but we didn't when we talked wet with this,
with this stuff about you know, uh politics, It's more
like we just like you know, through social media.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Nothing we didn't really communicate about, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But yeah, man, I must say every day he's on
on Trump's ass, I'm like, that ain't gonna get you
no where. Nigga, just hit up Trump. Well you need
from Trump. Tell the nigga what you need, You might
get it, you know. So it is what it is, man,
you know, I go ahead now.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I was saying, as a comedian, how do you you
personally decide when you've gone too far? When somebody else
has gone too far? When something is not funny? Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean if if the person is not laughing at it,
I think that's important to me. If I'm gonna make
fun of somebody, I think they have to laugh somehow someway.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
If Trump can't to my shirt where he laughed at things,
I'm saying probably because you know, probably not. Why not
The first thing I say when I get on stage,
I said, Trump is running America like Sugar Night ran
death row in the nineties.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
That's the first thing I said. That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I probably would ask for us the sugar Night do
a good job of running diff on tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Though. He'll find a way to the port you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
He can't. That's that's gonna be a lawsuit. I'm an American.
You can't just sport me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now. I have no criminal record.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But no, that's part of what he's been doing porting
people who are actually US citizens or people who've been
going through the process.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, i'm you have to have some kind of criminal record.
He'll find something.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
What are you finding me that?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That's really been the whole that's been the whole thing.
That's why people are upset. I'm not worried about trump Man,
you know. I mean, I'm not worried. I have my
thing is, you know, but just just just's say one thing.
Whatever he says he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Do, he doesn't. Definitely doesn't. That means so.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I mean, what, you know, you gotta respect a guy.
He's he's doing what the hell he say he's gonna do.
I'm gonna get here, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
do that. He's doing it, you know, And let's just
I mean three or four years left. Just let's just
figure out what is it that you want from this guy?
You want anything from him, because you don't.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just want America to be great, I really do.
I want America to be great, period. So I'm going
to whoever's in the office. I'm going to support any
president who is truly no, no, no, who is truly
trying to make this country better.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They know, thank you, who's truly.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean, don't get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He did do a few things that I you know that,
I mean, especially with the Ice situation. I wasn't a
big fan of that because I mean, I think that's
what make America what it is, is foreigners coming.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
In here and doing things.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Of Course, you know, people like me who what I
had to go through to become a citizen. It took
me almost picking thirty years to become a citizen, so
it's not an easy thing to keep a legal you
know papers. So of course, if I don't want nobody
coming in here, they can still get you. In the
Trump era, that's what they've been doing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
People who have been wrongly deported because of administrative errors
and policy change.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, So I mean people come in here illegally. I'm
not approving of that because I didn't come illegally.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I came in the right way and I had to
keep the right papers to keep newing there and make
sure I'm doing the right thing, so you know. But
I guess just the force they are taking and setting
people back, it's kind of sad when they're separating fathers
from their kids and all that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's a sad point.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And imagine getting sitting back to a country that you're
not even from familiar with.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
At least you would be back in Ghana.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, anyway, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It'd be good.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Take me to like bury on the Naturia. It doesn't matter.
I love my continent. Yeah, gonna go up all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Have you been there?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I was there when you were there, but I mean
you're there all the time. But I was there that
you was there for New Year's Dirty December one year.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like two years ago.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Okay, Yeah, you have to people saying that the December
time is getting like so many people go down that
if it's your first time, you might not enjoy it
as much.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Now it's a great time.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Because I actually decided to shoot my special this year,
during that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Time in dirty December.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yes, and so I decided to go ahead and shoot
this one special and give them, give the people probably
the best special they've probably ever seen the whole entire life.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Now to go back to this, but I got Trump question.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
In twenty sixteen, you did the Blat interview, and you
you always joking, but you said you would deport yourself
if he became.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I did.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, But now your jokes kind of change, like what
what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Because you find out twenty sixty, Yeah, for real a tweet?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
No, it's comedians. What made you change the tony of jokes?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Where was I at twenty sixty?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I remember that headline.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I have no idea how that did because I remember
twenty sixteen. I remember being on vacation in kN Kun
with my ex before Rider, and I remember I remember
both of us rooting for this guy because it was
like he was an underdog.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
He would think he was going against Biden.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I think that time, So Hillary was it Hillary?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Hillary? And you know?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I remember like she was saying, you know, if
he went, you not being a live back in America
something funny, she said. I don't remember, but I remember like,
you know, quietly kind of rooting for the under dog.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I always been an underdog type of person.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Even when I'm watching Super Boy, my team is not
and I'm wounding for the underdogs to win, you know.
So maybe I was just trying to be funny, you know,
but I'm always rou for the underdogs no matter who
it is.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
For some reason, I.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Don't like he was.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Definitely an underdog in the election. Nobody expected him to
win in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What then, I.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Feel like I feel like there were people who, like,
we voted for Hillary and we wanted her to win, but.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
They thought Hillary people thought Hillary was a four gun
at the party, that there was a celebration that didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yes, everybody with.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
You just been having bad choices.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I mean, God, with this, with this Great's greatest country,
is your the last?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It's like there's nobody.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Standing out there, you really know, you know, whether it's Democrat, Republican,
nobody's really out there that you guys ever felt comfortable
with you?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Guys, I'm saying you you never been happy with nobody.
You never wasn't of Hillary.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
You're just not happy.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
You just didn't nothing make you happy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Ary was cool. I like Hillary he did. Yeah, I
like Hillary.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
You like biting into No, I never liked. But okay,
so if you got biting.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
In Trump, then we're gonna pick exactly I had got
in too many great choices you're saying.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I'm saying, but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Listen, I want to go back to what you said
about Ghana. Right performing your stand up in Ghana? Do
you think Africans and African Americans laugh at the same jokes?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
A You gotta of course not better. That's why I'm
doing it during that time where it's gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Be people from different parts of the world.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm not gonna trust my stand up with just straight
My Gunns are very.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Strict.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They are, like you know, very conservative, and I would
not want to do that to my special So that
time of the year, there are people from Canada, London,
and the United States all in Ghana. So my goal
is to capture all the dire sport and perform for them,
and hopefully I'm hoping ONCET I'll be challenging myself. I
like a challenge, you know, so I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Have you ever tried Ghana, I mean stand up.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Nigeria?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Nigeria is more like you're is more open. They're more free,
you know, Ghana, you would be the more you know
certain things. You know, they're not too much on it.
A lot of too much of my hard core ship.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Just get quiet.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
No no, no no.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean if I say, don't get if I say
a joke, it didn't like they you know, they probably
won't laugh at it. But I just move on to
the next ship. And like that ship wasn't even the punchline.
You know, you have to like learn how to make
adjustments on stage.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You like a football player. Man, if the defense ain't working,
change your.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Defense, you know, I mean, change your offense going to
the heart up, you know, to a shotgun instead of
running back position. So you as a professional doing this
for thirty years, you have to learn how to make adjustments.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
On stage and in life period. And I think I've
learned how to do that. Speaking of football, are you
really Eli Apple's uncle? Eli Apple is my nephew. How
about that? I came in before that niggaat but he's.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
My nephew, said, I mean, is he really like he's
this big I'm the star, he's the now nephew, nigga guy.
Now I'm his I'm his uncle. Yes, he's my Nephwick. Yes,
my youngest sister's son.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Wow wow okay, yeah yeah, shout out to corner back
right on the back.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
He was your number one draft pick in twenty sixteen.
I was at the draft pick. Actually, that's the year
that Egle selected the guy that's he's now with Minnesota.
Now I forgot, man, God damn quick will forget. But
I was there for that draft twenty sixteen in Chicago,
NFL Draft. My little nephew, Eli Apple was selected a
tenth pick by the New York Giants. I never forget
(34:09):
that day. I became a Giants fan. It was the
tenth pick, tenth pick overall.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Man, did you lean on him when you open the school?
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
No, Man, I never lean on nobody. Man, I've been
doing I've been taking care of the school myself. And
the only time I actually decided to even open up
a nonprofit was an issue I had. You know, with
the last government of Ghana. They give out these bonds.
I don't know if you heard about it, give out
these This is called eurobonds. So your bonds is like
(34:37):
is a bond where the money stays in whatever currency
you put it in, you know, so if he whether
it's euro or pounds or dollars, it stays in that currency.
And it was paying very high interest rate, like ten
percent something crazy. And that's what I had decided to
do in paying for the school for life. I said, okay,
it was going to take to sustain the school for
the lifetime. And I figured out when the school is
(34:58):
completely filled up, we should in two more years gonna
be filtered. Right now, every year I bring in like
twenty kids, so in about two years will be like
a two hundred and then I'm a max out there.
I said, when it's two hundred kids and it's gonna
cost me like ten thousand dollars a month. We was
very reasonable if you hear it. But you know Ghanain
and most part of Africa. The good and bad thing
(35:18):
about it is labor is very cheap, so you could
four to pay employees, you know, and like I said,
I could run the whole school for t one a month.
And I said, how can I get ten grand a
month for a lifetime. And then they had his bonds,
the your bonds that's paying ten percent interest rate, and
I'm like, okay, it's a million dollars. I put a
million dollars in there, get and every give me ten
(35:40):
thousand dollars a month. And once they expired after three years,
I renew it again and again. Right, so I send
a million dollars to my continent, to my country. And
I said, okay, let me now the school be set.
I got paid for it, interest paid for it. So
I got that from We got like one two payments
and then payments stopped. And then and I hit up
(36:01):
the financial guide them, I'm like, what's going on? He said, well,
just having some issues, so but everything's gonna be okay.
Two years later, no payment and then they said between
COVID and Ghana, owes China money.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
You know, it's it's all on that last government. I'm
not gonna blame you on the country.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Ghana is a great country and this issue has never
happened in the history of Ghana. Where they fuck up
your bonds. Bonds is like, should be really strong. If
bond go run America, the government will come in and
pay for it, take care of it. So then it's like,
you know, two years no payments. So now I'm coming
up with new money making these payments, you know. And
then right before the election, they decided to make a
(36:40):
decision on the bond theyself. Can we decided that we
are restructuring the bonds. You have two options. Either take
one or would take one for you. So option number
one you lose thirty seven percent of money you give them.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Your ten ten percent interest.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Rate is now five percent, it right, and your three
four year bond is now eleven year bond.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
You need to hold your money for eleven years.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Optioned them A two You don't lose no percentage, but
your ten percent interest rate is now one point five
percent and your three year bond is now fifteen year bond.
So I went on Twitter and I lit them up.
I mean I lit them so hard. I think I
was probably the cause of the last government losing election
because they became worldwide, you.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Know, because I you know, they knew I did it
for the school and you know.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
And then and so I had to pick one eventually,
I mean I picked the one that don't lose no
percentage because I said, as long as that money is there,
I could always fight for it, you know. So now
instead of getting ten grand a month is like whatever,
fifteen hundred dollars a month, you know. So I was
really pissed about that. So now when that happened, I said, okay,
I got to maybe open up some kind of nonprofit
(37:52):
and maybe try to raise the rest of the money
in that way and make sure the school goes off
for life. You did it, I mean, I opened them
nonprofate better right, as long as I'm working, I'm still
paying out of my pocket. People want to send money,
is up to them. I'm not. I never been a bagger,
you know, even though nonprofit is richbule to have those
nonprofit But me, for some reason, it just something MEY
just hate asking for any day, you know, because I'm
(38:14):
gonna do something, I'm gonna do it, and I'm working now.
I'm making money, you know, so I'm paying it and
when that time comes, you know, I'll go back for money.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Man. That's dope. Man, he ain't dope. Like when did you.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Start realizing like, Okay, I can clown around, but I
got to get my mogul on too.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It's when I went back home around December like twenty nineteen,
and when I was like, you know, and I saw
kids during school hours in the marketplaces helping their mothers
sell food.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
And I'm like, why.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
These kids out in school? Because I know in America
kids out in school. Parents got in trouble. And then
I found out that, you know, sometime they can't.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Afford to go to school. But how about public schools.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Public schools are called government schools in Africa, and it's
only a few of them, and it fills up really fast.
And once it fills up, you can't go to school.
You can't afford private schools, you can't go to school.
So then I say, I gotta, I gotta do something.
At least I start off in my village at least
where my life, my life started, you know, and started
doing it and made it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's though.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's a job building a school too, and continent and
Ghana what y'all wrote?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, job, he didn't he?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I guess he built it. He added to what the
school already had. He added, he added some more like classrooms.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I think, I think God building Nigeria, Nigeria. Okay, okay, yeah,
what makes you more money? Right now?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Michael telling jokes of being Michael Blacks and the brand
stand up? Stand up is it is?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right now? You know?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I mean that's one thing that's a great thing, my
stand up. They could never take that away from us,
you know, And longer he build a fan base, you
could tell these jokes for life. Even at this point,
like you know, twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen hours hot as hell.
I mean I was going to doing like ten fifteen
shows on the weekend and making crazy money. And like now,
when I built the school, I kind of like toned
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down a little bit because I was really crazy online.
Teddy tu. You're talking Thursdays all that ship, and you
can't have a school and have a tendy Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
So I slow down, you know. And I ran into
this kid the other day, Sai. Damn, Mike, you fell
up well because I'm not doing tendy tuessy. Better think
about it. You have to set the boss so high.
You have to set the boss so high in your
life when you become an entertainer that even when you
quote unquote fall off, you're still making good money.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Plus, people don't want you to grow up if they
used to seeing a certain way, if you're doing things
a certain way, they want you to stay on it.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Put a shirt under your jacket is just it's just
my style.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Are you looking at my chest?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
You always got it out, it's always out there.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I see you're in Delaware, Michael Blacks Ladies and gentlemen
you can catch them at New York Comedy Festival and
we always.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Appreciate you joining us. Thanks for having me, Michael Blackson.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Good morning, every day.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Breakfast clubs. Y'all done,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast
Club finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Done morning.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Everybody's DJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are
the breakfast Club. Law La Ros is here as well.
We got a special guest in.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The building, Donald Trump's favorite African, Michael.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Black's ladies, gentlemen, Welcome. Are you feeling man? Good morning? Brother?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
How you figure I'm done? Trump favorite African? Got to
be You don't think so we know.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
What I'm about?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Elon Musk, you know what You're right? Wow, Michael Black.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
No, I'm all about whoever's in office.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You gotta work with them one way or another. Whether
and I see you, guys, I mean I see d
L D killing Trump every day. I'm like, listen, that's
not gonna help us. You want to help us, Tell
this nigga what we need. Don't go bashing him and
all that stuff. I'm all about whoever's in office. Try
to get where we get out of them instead of
just killing every day and making fun going hard on them.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's not gonna help it. I know Dell doesn't reach
out to you a few time.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah, and that goes back to Aveny Africa.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Like you know in Africa, the leaders are the ones
in charge, the all the rich ones. They're the one
that you have to like work with if you won't
get anything done. You know, that just had my confidence. Man,
So I just kept that same manergy anywhere I go.
Who I wasn't offer. You got to find a way
to work with them. You can't just go ros you know,
bashing him every day. You're not gonna get shit out
of him that way.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You get a lot of flag for that. What for
your opinion on Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I mean I don't talk much about it online
because my fan base are like, you know, majority young
black people, And what's what's my fan base?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So I can try to keep that, you know, give
some stuff to myself.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Well, how are things at home? You just had another baby?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, I mean I haven't had one eighteen years, so
all of a suddenly, you know, a new one comes.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Out eighteen years eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Started eighteen and going to college. Yeah, man, you big
one in six years that when it came in, wo you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just got offild support. Now you just got to support. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Just just finally fleeing my last payment, A whole new nigga.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
The you know. The thing's the thing with Chad support.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You know, having kids when you're twenty five, twenty six
years old, you know you were struggling. I think now
money is not an issue. So one this money's not
an issue. Nothing bothers you. I think the most important
thing is money. Yeah, and you know I don't have
money problems anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
What listen, what made you want to start over?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I mean I didn't want to start over. I mean
I just got lazy with my poor game.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I didn't want to you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the baby was, you know, the twins, it was
really bad experience, as you know, court parents. With the mom,
we had a really big we couldn't get along with
the court fighting. We fight from the day they were
born all the way to like eighteen years old. It
was really bad, you know what I mean. And Rader
didn't believe how bad it was till like the last
six years. I had to take over the Family Wizard.
(02:53):
So when you're in family court and you can't get
along with your stiff, your other there's an app called
Family Wizard. You communicate on the app where you Yeah,
it's a family app where you communicate where you don't.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Have to talk to this lady. And then but the
court watches it, m so it's.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Like, what's that for, like baby mamas and baby daddy.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah exactly, but I mean quarters over now, so I
could say it now, but I had I say, no, Wrider,
you don't believe you think I'm the problem. I'm gonna
have you act like you are me and you communic
kill with this lady. And she found out what a
multipate what's the looking for? No, yeah, that's that one
public school.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You have to excuse me.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And she found out. She's like, damn, this one is
really nut. So I had to communicate with her. For
the last five years I didn't. I'm like, no, I'm
paying you to talk to this lady. I don't want
to talk to him. And now she realized that I
wasn't a problem, you know, I just had a really
crazy you know. I don't want to talk much about
the being MoMA because after all, she did a great
job raising my boys. They are a students in college
and I'm very proud of them, and that's one good
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thing she did. But she did ruin the bond that
I had with my boys. I mean at least the
last five six years really, because you're always together, I
always together back and you've got the point when she
got remarried, got married, and I remaded because I.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Never I never married her. Thank god.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
When she got married and when the relationship was over,
she went back again on my nervous again.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Please, it's always best like let the thee find some dick,
because dick comes from it down, you know what I mean,
Like me and Rider will all again. I'll give her
some dick in it. She back to loving and being
normal again.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And Rider is still your fiance. Are you going to
marry her?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
She gave you got engaged the.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Pair once she said engagements expired.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now she guess.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But I mean every time you look at somebody getting
divorced every day, I'm like, you know, I don't be.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Part of this divorce.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Just gonna keep her, yeah, just keep.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Looking for a new proposal coming. We're still together because.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
You know the back of forth that you had online
and kind of confused people because well you you had
to come out to when she posted it like she's
like she's alone when she walks up. I want to
talk someone sometimes And then you reacted then you retracted
what you reacted with and you talked about facetiming or
from the road, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, that was about something else and I'm not ready
to talk about yet. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know, I'm not gonna say she's using postpartum as
an excuse, you know, because the way she made it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Sam and me, I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I try not to reach too much comments, you know,
I just knew when it came out, I had people
hit me like, hell, why she acting like you know, yeah,
like you know so what I mean reading comments or
even reading her text message. I went in the defense
mode and like, you know, hey him, like, don't talk
about the hands that feeds you whatever, And I kind
of that's probably went a little hard, you know. But
we recently. I was bored the last couple of years,
(05:40):
and you know I did that. I did the TV
show at Top Verry Studios, which is a four episode
poplar And now we've been waiting for like one won't
do this again because this show is probably the most
amazing thing that I've done. And I'm like, okay, he said,
I want to do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We just waited.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I said, well, I'm waiting. I'm taking something else.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I took on the Love and Hit out Miami, and
it's actually coming out of November, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Like the new season, thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I completely took over the show like this pretty much
the Michael Blackson Show.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So I took onto this. I said, you know what,
now you're going to become a.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Reality star, a real reality star, and to make it
in reality people.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Like to know what you're going through, so you know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And my reply was more to like, you know what,
let me make a little bit more famous, let me
go online, just talk ship and let her reply back.
Let's go back and forth, make up and that what
you can make. I said, you can make a whole
lot of money be in reality. So after the fact
I told her, I said, listen, it was I wasn't
this can come on bad place. I'm more trying to
like help you become reality famous. That's why I was
hoping we went back and forth. You know, I didn't
(06:38):
tell it let's go back and forth on purpose. I
was hoping we went back and forth. But you know,
my team, like Mike, you know, postpartum is a very
serious thing, so don't play with They don't talk, so
I kind of like talk about it.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
You just have to you know, you got to be
there for her. But do you think with her if
she is, you know, going through postpartum depression, and is
she okay with film, you think she's gonna be cool
on the show?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
I mean this show is it's a lot there's a
lot more. Wann come on you shoot shot the show? Yeah,
we started already, we started. We started, it goes up,
it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
On through January and then and then they decide, you know,
on the next season. But it's a lot more coming
on this shell. That probably had something to do with
the postpartum thing, but I can I couldn't talk about it.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'm ruined the show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What did you mean when you said, if you think
making a baby with me will turn me into Russell Wilson,
you better try getting mother socker.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, you know a couple of Russell will says, Everyone's
drink and maybe instead she ended with her Stephan Dicks instead.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Jesus the way that Cardi hopes he will be there
for Michael Jesus, she.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Picked the wrong football player. Well, I mean she knew
from the door. Well who Michael Blacks was?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know what I mean? You didn't so that is
Michael Blackson.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I mean, and then when I became honest with myself,
which was after I broke up with the girl before Rider,
and I realized that I just can't be with one person.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And I've been honest from the door, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And is it the African then you like, I don't wife,
you need to have more than one wife.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I mean my wife might be I mean, I'm not
you know, I mean to have more than one wife.
It's either a religious thing or some type of chief there's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Allowed to have that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I mean, I love to have more than my wife.
But that sounds like a lot of problem.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I'm okay, you don't want to marry nobody, you just
have them there.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I just I mean, I don't mind having a one
great woman that I know has my bag and that
she's the one. She's the one that has my bag
and does everything for me and do things right.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But once in a while, you know, I like to
do She okay with that?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Now, I remember there was a contract that y'all had
in place. Y'allill have a contract because remember on that
show that we did before you did love Hapipe right,
the relationship show there was like an agreement where you're like,
look what she gave you a certain amount of women
that you can have out the month, and then once
you exceed that quota, you and the dog.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
It was a quarter she was it was like once
a month, but there was once a month.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I mean I kind of like start doing two or
three times a month.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Okay, But what I try to do, I try to
keep it, you know, very simple. Me like two three
girls and that I knew and familiar with instead of
picking up strangers. You know, you pick up strangers. Wake
up in the morning, your rolex is gone, your ship
is going. So and that's the part that and we're
still all gained about that to today because most of
the chicks that I messed with have been around for
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like four or five years.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And she felt like that's a relationship as well. Working Ghana.
You got work in Ghana? What do you mean, ladies?
You gotta.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I had I had somebody in.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Ghana, somebody for just one person.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, I had somebody Gunna. But you know, she's a
little s.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Potentials came. I'm not sure Jesus suspect I'm not you know, no, no, no,
she's just full of ship.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't want to get into details. Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't want to take this wrong way.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But everything going on with Diddy, you didn't say, you
know what, I don't want to have these multiple relationships.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Outside of my relationships.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's like because you with all these women, and now
it takes what women to be like.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Two three and the whole lot that's a whole lot
of two three a month is a lot the same
people you want them to be, like, Oh no, I
keep my circle clothes. I try to keep my circle
clothes and intimate that way, you know. And I'm very
I treat every woman with respect. I think that's the
most important thing.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You cheat them with respect and always have receipts.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You always have receipt And I have a nephew that
plays in the NFL, and I got a lot of
young guys that plays in the NBA, and I tell
my to listen, you guys have be careful.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You have you need receive for everything you do.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
If a girl comes and visit you, you know, you
walk that girl to the elevator, you give a hug.
The cameras always watching and when she gets them texting hate.
Make sure you got home sack. Always keep a receipting
you know, never leave wrong for anybody to accuse you
of anything. You know how your rapis is gonna hug
you at the elevator, nigga, you know what I'm saying.
So besides, I treat everyone, every every person that I'm with,
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I treat them well and respectful.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And you know they got crazy. That's the women, right,
be honest, be honest and treat them Mike.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
But see, that was the thing that Ryder had a
problem with because she was like, Yo, why are you
so nice to the girls that I know you got
to you two and three? But she's like, yes, that's
where it feels like a relationship because you're keeping contact,
keeping in contact with these girls after you're saying you're
only saying a few times out the year, taking care
of me, take care of them like you're taking them
to breakfast. That's what she was betting about. But you
(11:52):
don't need to eat, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
That was one issue we had with her most hated
side check of mind. It was in Vegas and we
I was playing at this particular particular Cassino, and they
offered me like dinner like STK or whatever, and I'm like, okay,
I'm took her.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
To go eat.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
It's a nice restaurant.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And then you know, the manager of the manager of
the club happened to be a good friends rider.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And then this nigga like, you know, doing some.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Fucking guy coach ship texting rider ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Mike is here with another another you.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Know girl, you're looking out for her? What I did,
you know, sugar.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Even when I'm in public, I don't like being parking
with another woman alone because I hate somebody to pictures
and get the mine. So I always make sure I
invite two or three, whether it's homies or girls. I
make sure it's more than just me and this person.
So one of my homies, I invited one of my
homies gonna have dinner. I say, I'm gay. Come my, damn.
You know I'm me SDK Rich come on right, So
it's even me and him and her, you know Ben
(12:56):
and he like this little little Eastern motherfucker texting her.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Niggas here with another woman. So we're sitting there.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
They might try to sneak video just sent to her
and then the girl caught on to it, like cursing
and mount in the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
You know, and it's the bigger scene.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
It became a much bigger scene.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Is a big deal though.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Man, they got the bag of donuts and the trustle
fries and the freaking wag.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Google. Man, you can't be going snatch. You don't go snach.
Hm we snitched another nigga?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Man, what I yeah, I don't know. It depends like
you said that was his homegirl though, because.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, but still you know what I mean, Like, I'm
not I wasn't putting that kind of stress on my home.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
No, he wasn't getting You're get right, because that's what.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I got a question? You said you were in love
and hip hop? Maam? Who else was on the cast?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Because the same thing, you know, Uh, it's trick that
because it's still there, got trainers there, Amarra is still there,
so you thewn' I'm like, I'm the new one.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Mean, uh of course I'm right now, I'm watch.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, it's very interesting. That ship really fucked my life up.
I don't know why why, but you know what.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
You're walking into before you get there, Michael, you.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Know why was I bored. Why your life, especially, I'm
not gotta pay me a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Let me tell you what watch you have to watch?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
November? November. Did you really miss the birth of your
son because you want to go get coffee? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
So yeah, I did, mind you. I wanted this kid
to be born on Monday because when I the people
on Monday, I'm called Joe. Co joke is You're born
on Monday, your coo joke. So the goal wasn't gonna
be born on Monday. So we did Monday all day
went for this little nigga to come out. There's a
little African Chinese nigga to come out, and I'm like,
(14:49):
it's freezing in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I hate the cold.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, I'm African warm blood. It's overnight now when no
money is over, not Tuesday. And I didn't want this
nigga got a whole new name now, you know, because
Tuesday you are like Quarbina. That's the name for the boy.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
If you're Tuesdy. Quarbena is no respecting any Gunnes out
there with Qua being the name.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
In fact, one of my homies who's the ex president's
son in law, he's a miss Quadbinner. He actually living
from Jersey and shout out to you. But I'm not
named my son quad Beina. It just sounds too you.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Know, Tuesday, Tuesday tu girly.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Quar Beena sounds girly.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
So now we don't miss fucking Monday, miss Kojo and
now the niggas Quadbina.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm like, when is quad ben coming to fuck out?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You know what I mean? So I'm waiting.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It's freezing and there.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm like, I'm go grab me something to get out
here to go, grab something to eat and drink whatever,
I'll be back. And I left out the hospital, drove
like twenty minutes to go find something.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You drove even wore. No, hell no, I drove.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Got in the car, drove when, got something to eat
and now and then she texted me out here the
baby might be coming soon.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I said, okay, no problem.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Let me put this hospital name in the GPS And
I put it in a GPA pull up and is
the wrong hospital? I get to find out there's six
of this fucking name. Hospital has six different the sixth
locations with the same name. So now I'm even further away.
As soon as I walk in to the hospital. The
nigga already out, was crying with a little birthmark on
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his stomach.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What really happened? Michael? What was her name?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Seriously? I was in a whole different So I was
in Arizona. That's where she lives. It wasn't home for me.
I ain't got no bitches in Arizona.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
He really was upset, like you know, like the cold hospitals.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To get some He didn't just go. It was so
cold when I got in the car. I didn't eve
turn the air. It was one hundred degrees in Arizona.
And I kept the mother for an air off. I
just wanted some heat bag in my fucking body. And
I came back and I went to the wrong hospital.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Would showed it that we No, I just went there
for the baby's birth. She lives in.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
We have a home, we have a place in Arizona.
That's where she stat That's what she says. Yeah, we
don't live together.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Whole time out. I need my together.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We don't live together. Man, this is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Man, Why don't be all right what she said?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
This interview?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Ye worse interviews she did.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So you live in Florida, she lives I live living
out of Los Angeles, so y'alln't live with each other
at all, never live together.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
She comes over over there because.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You and you asked for her hand in marriage. I
mean we got it.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Together wanted, but he asked for her hand in marriage
because she wanted to get married. He didn't want to
ever get married.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Mm hm you know that.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
To show this is what it is, we have therapy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We live in different you know, I prefer living.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So how often do you visit I we see each
other quite often, at least every at least every every
other week.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
California, Arizona, Miami.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I have a house back in East and Delaware, so
we were and Ghana so well.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Over the place Delaware.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, I was raised in Philly. I built my house
in Delaware, like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
When we'd be in the mall. But when I used
to work in the mall from Delaware, and people used
to be like, Michael Blackson was just in here, and
we'd be like, no, he wasn't, Like yes, he wasn't
here all the time. So we just never see you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But we live there in Delaware. Uh, you never had
no work that I.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Did at one point, but not even serious. My work
is mostly like l a mm hmm.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, you screwed your face up Delaware and got some bodies.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I mean I didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I didn't never that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I didn't got that.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I mean the all you probably could see something here
and there, but I didn't have no nobody.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Why would you post a baby with a picture of
George Jefferson, George Jefferson and Chico Bean?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Sam? And why did?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm still waiting for his little old infant to head
to grow?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Man, I'm like, this baby look.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Like he he was born with a freaking two hundred
credits card. They were like he struggling going through. Now
he's very doable, she sent me. You know, when I'm
not there, I get a video every day and his.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Head slowly growing back.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But if I think that whole headline thing is it's
a Ghana thing for some reason, like most babies and
boys in Ghana born withre like this receiving headline and
eventually your head comes back, you know, so hopefully his
ship would come out sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Congratulations to for all I invested in you doing back
in Ghana.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Man, that's dope.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, built the school. I see what Treasure Island.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
What about Treasure Island?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Is that yours? No it's not nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No no, no no.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Me and DC on Fly was planning on doing a
retreat a Treasure Island.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Just no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I mean the school was something I always wanted to
do back when I was going back home twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I just had to figure out how I was going
to get it done.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And when I finally did it, I said to myself,
Oh God, this is what a legacy is. I didn't
know what legacy was prior to that too. I walked
in and I see my name on the school, and
I see the kids.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Are happy, and the game education.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Free every day and free that, and I feel like
my leg my legacy.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Is finally complete, you know. I feel like it don't
matter what happened to me now. I'm like, I feel
like I've done something that would be that would be
taken away.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, that's big.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And you're here right now because you're here for the
New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Actually, my first time doing something this mainstream. You know,
I'm I've never been Madia mainstream guy. I'm I'm more,
you know, I mean, I've never they never really gave
me the opportunity to do something like this. So shout
out to uh the crew, Greg and the rest of
the crew from Caroline's.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You know, they don't want to put this together.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I heard as a partner of it as well.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Okay, yes, I'm excited about doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You think you never got those opportunities, you know what
I'm It's just never been my thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But don't get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It's plenty of plenty of black money, plenty of hood money,
made millions of dollars with my black fans and my
underground fans, So you don't really bother me, man. I mean,
like I said previously, you know where in my life,
it's way surpassed what I expected. So I never really
try to. You know, if they came after that, you know,
came after me, I'll go and.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Get it done.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
But they don't really like you know, invited me to
you know, these festivals. So I'm excited about this. I mean,
don't get it wrong. I do have white fan base,
especially the young college ones and and especially from like
shows like Wild and now We The fan base are
mostly young white kids and black kids, So I gained
a lot of fans, a lot of race, from wild
and out shut out to Nick for bring me on
(21:29):
like a million times on that show. So in social
media I'm sure helps to the worst for your audience, definitely,
you know. So, Yeah, I'm excited about the New York
Comedy Festival going on the second week in November, So
make sure y'all get tickets.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
All rock right, hard rock? Ye? Can you look at
us like we like we know I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Hard rock.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It, she says. Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
The venue is Music World at hard Rock Hotel, New
York City, that's on forty eighth Street. You need tickets,
you can go to Nycomedyfestival dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, I'm excited about doing doing that a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
And you also on your own tour. America's fucked tour.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The America's fucked. You know, why are you allowed to
say that you're not what you mean?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm a citizen there, I got my papers.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
After thirty years.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
In America, I finally became and I'm glad I did
it before all.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This things started happening. You know. Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
In fact, Rider don't want to push me to doing
it because prior to that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Let me see, I applied for my citizenship about fifteen
years ago, took the test, you know, easy test. I
studied the test and passed the test, right, man, I
passed the test. And then that day this motherfucker did
not want me to be a citizen that day, you know,
because I was, you know. He they asked them to
try to incriminate that. He asked me questions where I
could easily incriminate myself. He asked me to say, do
(22:52):
you or any taxes or chosuple or anything. I said, well,
I owe taxes, but I'm on a payment plan. So
he said, well, before ipprove your citizenship, like to see
you know the history of your payment plane. And I
sent this motherfucking my payment plane. He said, well, it
wasn't consistent enough, so you're not an honest person, so
we're denying your citizenship. And once you get denied, you
(23:12):
have to wait five years to apply again.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Why were you consistent enough?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I have no idea what he meant by dad, I mean,
I don't know. You know, I thought I thought I
was consistent enough, you know, But did you use Michael
when I was the Philly one or the Ghana one combination.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Dishonest person.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So yeah, so, and I got so frustrated with I
was like, you know what, fuck being an American. As
long as I could renew my green card every ten years,
I was okay with going. So I'm let me back
into work. That started mattered to me, you know, But
then it's when you're not the citizen. You have to
travel to Europe and you have to get a visa.
So it became so difficult. And when Rodick came in
my life, she was the one that pushed me, like,
(23:52):
might get it done. I'm like, I'm a fuck me
in American. She's like, Mike, go get it done. And
then we found a lawyer and I didn't have to
pay this guy. He just went in like a kind
of free promotions in exchange for promotion. He set it
all up and I went to did It did It
test in La. This time I had a young black,
thirty year old black man interview with me. He was
a fan and Big Lone Sory show. I became American.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Oh see he can't choose see but stop.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
D So why do you think Americans don't notice song Americans?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Is you have a comedian president man, this guy is
doing the funniest ship on earth, and I'm and it's
it's comedy to me.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
As comedian, I was rooting for him only because it
was make our job easier.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You know, I didn't vote. I didn't vote.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm saying I was with because I wanted to have
a great wanted to be president with me. I went
yes because I wanted to have I wanted to comedy.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He was funny.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was finding his comedic president. I mean, there was
nothing gonna be fun in by Kamala. We can't make
fun of Kamala. It's a strong black woman. We need
somebody to make fun of.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's why I was.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I was woting fun because I wanted a lot of
material and it worked. I mean, this guy friends, do
you see what friends told him?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They want to statu your liberty back because of Trump?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Do you see that.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I didn't know, Satu your liberty came from friends after
that bitch came from all them?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What d else did? What he called you? We didn't, No, no,
we didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We didn't talk about that much. The last my talk
to d L.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I actually he does this comedy thing on Tuesday or
Wednesday night at LA and you know we talked briefly,
you know, but we didn't when we talked wet with this,
with this stuff about you know, uh politics, It's more
like we just like you know, through social media.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Nothing we didn't really communicate about, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But yeah, man, I must say every day he's on
on Trump's ass, I'm like, that ain't gonna get you
no where. Nigga, just hit up Trump. Well you need
from Trump. Tell the nigga what you need, You might
get it, you know. So it is what it is, man,
you know, I go ahead now.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I was saying, as a comedian, how do you you
personally decide when you've gone too far? When somebody else
has gone too far? When something is not funny? Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean if if the person is not laughing at it,
I think that's important to me. If I'm gonna make
fun of somebody, I think they have to laugh somehow someway.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
If Trump can't to my shirt where he laughed at things,
I'm saying probably because you know, probably not. Why not
The first thing I say when I get on stage,
I said, Trump is running America like Sugar Night ran
death row in the nineties.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
That's the first thing I said. That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I probably would ask for us the sugar Night do
a good job of running diff on tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Though. He'll find a way to the port you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
He can't. That's that's gonna be a lawsuit. I'm an American.
You can't just sport me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now. I have no criminal record.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
But no, that's part of what he's been doing porting
people who are actually US citizens or people who've been
going through the process.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, i'm you have to have some kind of criminal record.
He'll find something.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
What are you finding me that?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That's really been the whole that's been the whole thing.
That's why people are upset. I'm not worried about trump Man,
you know. I mean, I'm not worried. I have my
thing is, you know, but just just just's say one thing.
Whatever he says he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Do, he doesn't. Definitely doesn't. That means so.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I mean, what, you know, you gotta respect a guy.
He's he's doing what the hell he say he's gonna do.
I'm gonna get here, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
do that. He's doing it, you know, And let's just
I mean three or four years left. Just let's just
figure out what is it that you want from this guy?
You want anything from him, because you don't.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just want America to be great, I really do.
I want America to be great, period. So I'm going
to whoever's in the office. I'm going to support any
president who is truly no, no, no, who is truly
trying to make this country better.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
They know, thank you, who's truly.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean, don't get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He did do a few things that I you know that,
I mean, especially with the Ice situation. I wasn't a
big fan of that because I mean, I think that's
what make America what it is, is foreigners coming.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
In here and doing things.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Of Course, you know, people like me who what I
had to go through to become a citizen. It took
me almost picking thirty years to become a citizen, so
it's not an easy thing to keep a legal you
know papers. So of course, if I don't want nobody
coming in here, they can still get you. In the
Trump era, that's what they've been doing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
People who have been wrongly deported because of administrative errors
and policy change.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, So I mean people come in here illegally. I'm
not approving of that because I didn't come illegally.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I came in the right way and I had to
keep the right papers to keep newing there and make
sure I'm doing the right thing, so you know. But
I guess just the force they are taking and setting
people back, it's kind of sad when they're separating fathers
from their kids and all that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's a sad point.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And imagine getting sitting back to a country that you're
not even from familiar with.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
At least you would be back in Ghana.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, anyway, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It'd be good.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Take me to like bury on the Naturia. It doesn't matter.
I love my continent. Yeah, gonna go up all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Have you been there?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I was there when you were there, but I mean
you're there all the time. But I was there that
you was there for New Year's Dirty December one year.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Like two years ago.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Okay, Yeah, you have to people saying that the December
time is getting like so many people go down that
if it's your first time, you might not enjoy it
as much.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Now it's a great time.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Because I actually decided to shoot my special this year,
during that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Time in dirty December.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yes, and so I decided to go ahead and shoot
this one special and give them, give the people probably
the best special they've probably ever seen the whole entire life.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Now to go back to this, but I got Trump question.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
In twenty sixteen, you did the Blat interview, and you
you always joking, but you said you would deport yourself
if he became.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I did.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, But now your jokes kind of change, like what
what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Because you find out twenty sixty, Yeah, for real a tweet?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
No, it's comedians. What made you change the tony of jokes?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Where was I at twenty sixty?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I remember that headline.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I have no idea how that did because I remember
twenty sixteen. I remember being on vacation in kN Kun
with my ex before Rider, and I remember I remember
both of us rooting for this guy because it was
like he was an underdog.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
He would think he was going against Biden.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I think that time, So Hillary was it Hillary?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Hillary? And you know?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I remember like she was saying, you know, if
he went, you not being a live back in America
something funny, she said. I don't remember, but I remember like,
you know, quietly kind of rooting for the under dog.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I always been an underdog type of person.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Even when I'm watching Super Boy, my team is not
and I'm wounding for the underdogs to win, you know.
So maybe I was just trying to be funny, you know,
but I'm always rou for the underdogs no matter who
it is.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
For some reason, I.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Don't like he was.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Definitely an underdog in the election. Nobody expected him to
win in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What then, I.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Feel like I feel like there were people who, like,
we voted for Hillary and we wanted her to win, but.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
They thought Hillary people thought Hillary was a four gun
at the party, that there was a celebration that didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yes, everybody with.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
You just been having bad choices.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I mean, God, with this, with this Great's greatest country,
is your the last?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It's like there's nobody.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Standing out there, you really know, you know, whether it's Democrat, Republican,
nobody's really out there that you guys ever felt comfortable
with you?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Guys, I'm saying you you never been happy with nobody.
You never wasn't of Hillary.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
You're just not happy.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
You just didn't nothing make you happy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Ary was cool. I like Hillary he did. Yeah, I
like Hillary.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
You like biting into No, I never liked. But okay,
so if you got biting.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
In Trump, then we're gonna pick exactly I had got
in too many great choices you're saying.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I'm saying, but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Listen, I want to go back to what you said
about Ghana. Right performing your stand up in Ghana? Do
you think Africans and African Americans laugh at the same jokes?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
A You gotta of course not better. That's why I'm
doing it during that time where it's gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Be people from different parts of the world.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm not gonna trust my stand up with just straight
My Gunns are very.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Strict.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They are, like you know, very conservative, and I would
not want to do that to my special So that
time of the year, there are people from Canada, London,
and the United States all in Ghana. So my goal
is to capture all the dire sport and perform for them,
and hopefully I'm hoping ONCET I'll be challenging myself. I
like a challenge, you know, so I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Have you ever tried Ghana, I mean stand up.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Nigeria?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Nigeria is more like you're is more open. They're more free,
you know, Ghana, you would be the more you know
certain things. You know, they're not too much on it.
A lot of too much of my hard core ship.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Just get quiet.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
No no, no no.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean if I say, don't get if I say
a joke, it didn't like they you know, they probably
won't laugh at it. But I just move on to
the next ship. And like that ship wasn't even the punchline.
You know, you have to like learn how to make
adjustments on stage.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You like a football player. Man, if the defense ain't working,
change your.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Defense, you know, I mean, change your offense going to
the heart up, you know, to a shotgun instead of
running back position. So you as a professional doing this
for thirty years, you have to learn how to make adjustments.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
On stage and in life period. And I think I've
learned how to do that. Speaking of football, are you
really Eli Apple's uncle? Eli Apple is my nephew. How
about that? I came in before that niggaat but he's.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
My nephew, said, I mean, is he really like he's
this big I'm the star, he's the now nephew, nigga guy.
Now I'm his I'm his uncle. Yes, he's my Nephwick. Yes,
my youngest sister's son.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Wow wow okay, yeah yeah, shout out to corner back
right on the back.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
He was your number one draft pick in twenty sixteen.
I was at the draft pick. Actually, that's the year
that Egle selected the guy that's he's now with Minnesota.
Now I forgot, man, God damn quick will forget. But
I was there for that draft twenty sixteen in Chicago,
NFL Draft. My little nephew, Eli Apple was selected a
tenth pick by the New York Giants. I never forget
(34:09):
that day. I became a Giants fan. It was the
tenth pick, tenth pick overall.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Man, did you lean on him when you open the school?
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
No, Man, I never lean on nobody. Man, I've been
doing I've been taking care of the school myself. And
the only time I actually decided to even open up
a nonprofit was an issue I had. You know, with
the last government of Ghana. They give out these bonds.
I don't know if you heard about it, give out
these This is called eurobonds. So your bonds is like
(34:37):
is a bond where the money stays in whatever currency
you put it in, you know, so if he whether
it's euro or pounds or dollars, it stays in that currency.
And it was paying very high interest rate, like ten
percent something crazy. And that's what I had decided to
do in paying for the school for life. I said, okay,
it was going to take to sustain the school for
the lifetime. And I figured out when the school is
(34:58):
completely filled up, we should in two more years gonna
be filtered. Right now, every year I bring in like
twenty kids, so in about two years will be like
a two hundred and then I'm a max out there.
I said, when it's two hundred kids and it's gonna
cost me like ten thousand dollars a month. We was
very reasonable if you hear it. But you know Ghanain
and most part of Africa. The good and bad thing
(35:18):
about it is labor is very cheap, so you could
four to pay employees, you know, and like I said,
I could run the whole school for t one a month.
And I said, how can I get ten grand a
month for a lifetime. And then they had his bonds,
the your bonds that's paying ten percent interest rate, and
I'm like, okay, it's a million dollars. I put a
million dollars in there, get and every give me ten
(35:40):
thousand dollars a month. And once they expired after three years,
I renew it again and again. Right, so I send
a million dollars to my continent, to my country. And
I said, okay, let me now the school be set.
I got paid for it, interest paid for it. So
I got that from We got like one two payments
and then payments stopped. And then and I hit up
(36:01):
the financial guide them, I'm like, what's going on? He said, well,
just having some issues, so but everything's gonna be okay.
Two years later, no payment and then they said between
COVID and Ghana, owes China money.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
You know, it's it's all on that last government. I'm
not gonna blame you on the country.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Ghana is a great country and this issue has never
happened in the history of Ghana. Where they fuck up
your bonds. Bonds is like, should be really strong. If
bond go run America, the government will come in and
pay for it, take care of it. So then it's like,
you know, two years no payments. So now I'm coming
up with new money making these payments, you know. And
then right before the election, they decided to make a
(36:40):
decision on the bond theyself. Can we decided that we
are restructuring the bonds. You have two options. Either take
one or would take one for you. So option number
one you lose thirty seven percent of money you give them.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Your ten ten percent interest.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Rate is now five percent, it right, and your three
four year bond is now eleven year bond.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
You need to hold your money for eleven years.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Optioned them A two You don't lose no percentage, but
your ten percent interest rate is now one point five
percent and your three year bond is now fifteen year bond.
So I went on Twitter and I lit them up.
I mean I lit them so hard. I think I
was probably the cause of the last government losing election
because they became worldwide, you.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Know, because I you know, they knew I did it
for the school and you know.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
And then and so I had to pick one eventually,
I mean I picked the one that don't lose no
percentage because I said, as long as that money is there,
I could always fight for it, you know. So now
instead of getting ten grand a month is like whatever,
fifteen hundred dollars a month, you know. So I was
really pissed about that. So now when that happened, I said, okay,
I got to maybe open up some kind of nonprofit
(37:52):
and maybe try to raise the rest of the money
in that way and make sure the school goes off
for life. You did it, I mean, I opened them
nonprofate better right, as long as I'm working, I'm still
paying out of my pocket. People want to send money,
is up to them. I'm not. I never been a bagger,
you know, even though nonprofit is richbule to have those
nonprofit But me, for some reason, it just something MEY
just hate asking for any day, you know, because I'm
(38:14):
gonna do something, I'm gonna do it, and I'm working now.
I'm making money, you know, so I'm paying it and
when that time comes, you know, I'll go back for money.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Man. That's dope. Man, he ain't dope. Like when did you.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Start realizing like, Okay, I can clown around, but I
got to get my mogul on too.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It's when I went back home around December like twenty nineteen,
and when I was like, you know, and I saw
kids during school hours in the marketplaces helping their mothers
sell food.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
And I'm like, why.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
These kids out in school? Because I know in America
kids out in school. Parents got in trouble. And then
I found out that, you know, sometime they can't.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Afford to go to school. But how about public schools.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Public schools are called government schools in Africa, and it's
only a few of them, and it fills up really fast.
And once it fills up, you can't go to school.
You can't afford private schools, you can't go to school.
So then I say, I gotta, I gotta do something.
At least I start off in my village at least
where my life, my life started, you know, and started
doing it and made it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's though.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's a job building a school too, and continent and
Ghana what y'all wrote?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, job, he didn't he?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I guess he built it. He added to what the
school already had. He added, he added some more like classrooms.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I think, I think God building Nigeria, Nigeria. Okay, okay, yeah,
what makes you more money? Right now?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Michael telling jokes of being Michael Blacks and the brand
stand up? Stand up is it is?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right now? You know?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I mean that's one thing that's a great thing, my
stand up. They could never take that away from us,
you know, And longer he build a fan base, you
could tell these jokes for life. Even at this point,
like you know, twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen hours hot as hell.
I mean I was going to doing like ten fifteen
shows on the weekend and making crazy money. And like now,
when I built the school, I kind of like toned
(39:56):
down a little bit because I was really crazy online.
Teddy tu. You're talking Thursdays all that ship, and you
can't have a school and have a tendy Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
So I slow down, you know. And I ran into
this kid the other day, Sai. Damn, Mike, you fell
up well because I'm not doing tendy tuessy. Better think
about it. You have to set the boss so high.
You have to set the boss so high in your
life when you become an entertainer that even when you
quote unquote fall off, you're still making good money.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Plus, people don't want you to grow up if they
used to seeing a certain way, if you're doing things
a certain way, they want you to stay on it.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Put a shirt under your jacket is just it's just
my style.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Are you looking at my chest?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
You always got it out, it's always out there.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I see you're in Delaware, Michael Blacks Ladies and gentlemen
you can catch them at New York Comedy Festival and
we always.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Appreciate you joining us. Thanks for having me, Michael Blackson.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Good morning, every day.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Breakfast clubs. Y'all done,
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