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how you doing Breakfast Club? Feeling good? Beer oil, very happy,
very blessed to be here America.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Kingstown Season four is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
That's right, man. That's been a wonderful job. Yeah. I
love it. Man, it's pretty exciting we've got to especially
this far into the series. It's the best season so
far because of I think just because when you know
the characters better season one. Huh you said better than
(01:23):
the season one? Well yeah, yeah, yeah, just because the
audience will know all the characters, so now we can
take all this instead of having a bunch of being
seen d storylines, we can put everybody into the same narrative.
So we're all kind of we're watching a movie type
of vibe. So pretty excited about that. Which is a
lot of amazing characters in the show too. It's pretty diverse.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You you've played everything from blue collar heroes the conflicted
anti heroes.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What kind of roles challenge you the most at this stage?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, I think like all those. I think, you know,
if you play a bad guy, it's got to be
something pretty conflicted. You might, you know, with the audience
kind of has a great understanding of why he's a
bad guy and a good guy. You know, you have
to have things go wrong for you otherwise, you know,
we don't have a story, right, So I just look
for always complicated characters. I think that's whether you ride
(02:10):
the line of I think I've even kind of built
a career of like is he a good guy or
a bad guy? You're not going already where he's both
or just like every human being on the planet, there's
a lot of good in a lot of us, and
then then we can do we can do bad behavior,
but can still be a good person. Right. These are
all just very human sort of traits and behaviors. So
I'm kind of attracted to those.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's hard to get out of that space when you
dive so deep into like those moral gray areas, especially
like on the show like.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Kingsun No, Yeah, there's there's such you know, like when
I put that suit on, there's a there's a certain
there's this an energy to think same if I suit
up for Hawkeye or whatever it might be. There's it's
easy want to shed the skin of the the actual
skin you can really kind of emotionally in psychologically you know,
shed that you kind of have to, you have to
practice that.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
How do you see your character might on the show.
Do you see him as superhero, anti hero, something in between?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
How do you? I don't know, there's if hero is
in there, I think it's uh. I think there's a
moral code to him that's and ethics to him that
I'm attracted to, even though it might come with some
gray area moral gray area as well being you know,
coming from an incarceration, and but I think there's something
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selfless about Mike McCluskey that I'm attracted to. So that
does make him more heroic or more good, I think,
than than bad, even though there are some moral you know,
gray areas with him, But I think the intention behind
him is always forthright and being selfless.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
When you look at how you played a Mayo of
Kingston in his show, and then you look at today's
American and some of the things that politics is doing, now,
how do you compare the same.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I think mcclussey's kind of needed, you know, we need,
we need. I think someone that can kind of grease
the wheels on all all all sides and all kind
of smooth the edges of people. I think there's a
lot of devices this that kind of goes on and
a lot of things that can divide us, and I
think what's important is to unite us all like in
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just like in Mary Kingstown in that world, a world
of incarceration. You know, there's there's people waiting for people
to get out of the prison. There's people waiting to
get out of prison. There's some people that work in
the prison, and uh, in all all different levels of incarceration.
How how that world works. I think there has to
be some sort of grease to kind of uh, you know,
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unite people in all these different perspectives, Like it happens
all the time in real life with you know, just
the prison guard life is a very brutal job or
just being incarcerated, that's a very brutal sort of place
in space to be. I think that this had a
really cool documentary that came out that was shot in
the prison.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh I heard about that.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, such amazing. I just saw it. I don't know,
I can't remember what it was on on Netflix or something, but.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Some about Alabama.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly in Birmingham Friday and everybody watch it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah. But it's sort of like kind of injustices that
go on, you know, and and incarceration and so anyways,
it's just it's I just think it's like, you know,
I think there's a there is a kind of kind
of great need for that. Uh, like the morally great
area guy had to come in and be able to
listen to everybody. I think that's what even what sort
of politicians should do?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You think we should do that more?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I was going to ask, because in mayor of Kingstown,
you deal with the bad guys and the good guys, correct,
but you are the kind of keeping the peace with
that side. And I feel like sometimes with maya's and
governors or even I can't even say president, but maya's
and governors, seems like they stay away from the bad guys,
like they just messed with the good guys.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Where they can't make sure there is peace.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, you know what I think, like money just sort
of pushes us around and and uh forces our handed
I think I think capitalism is sort of the crushing
of humanity for us right now. And uh, you know,
I don't really lead that way. I kind of lead
with them more open heart. But yeah, I think you know,
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you know, you're supposed to serve the people. But to
serve the people, you have to listen to the people,
understand the people. Also, the people have to speak out,
and we have to like you know, be uh be
vocal and you know, everybody needs to be witnessed, right,
Everybody needs to be understood. And when we don't feel
that way, we get divided, right, And you know, I
think we need to find ways to to unite, man
(06:31):
because that's that's what we are. That's well how you know,
how we how we survive, is how we succeed. It's
how we flourish.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, even if you can't fully understand a person's
you know, story, understand their existence as a human, I
think the golden rule that we learned as kids, just
apply that everything.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Exactly, third grade playground rules. That's that's my sort of
like religion, if you will. It's like all that third
great playground stuff. It's like, treat people like you want
to be treated like all that stuff. And it's like
if we operate from that accord, you know, if we
got like tax breaks for doing those applying those rules,
like you know, we've been doing it more often, so
I think it's important to you know, at least, that's
how I think we can all even agree that that's gonna.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Work for all of the crazy tax base.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Basically for being kind, yeah, for being kind, for walking
someone across the street. But yeah, for Yeah, then you
got everybody hugging each other and mowing each other's lawns.
And I love that, right. I mean that's just called community,
that's called humanity, right, And I think we're in a
system that doesn't allow for that to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sadly, How do you humanize a man who operates in
a world where power often replaces compassion.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I think that's what I lean on the things I
think the family part aspect of him, I think I
lean all the things that that do make him to
have that fortitude. For like, McCluskey has like a strong
family ties, right, he's half his family's and cops. But
he was incarcerated. But he was but we didn't go
too much into the backstory that. But he's incarcerated and
didn't do the thing. He was kind of like the
(08:04):
scapegoat for why he was incarcerated. But at any rate, there's
a code, right, there's a moral code that I think
is kind of inspiring. It inspires me, So I really
just focus on the things that that make him good.
That the righteousness of him is about the righteousnes of
others and not about its selfless right. It's not about
him serving himself, and I really like that about the character.
(08:26):
I think there's something, you know, if it's anti hero
or heroic about him, it's that's that selflessness. And I
think that's that's a great message to send. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now I wanted to I wanted to go back a
little bit a couple of years ago, right, I remember
you all over the news in twenty twenty three. A
fourteen thousand pounds snow plow ran you, over you and
saving your nephew. They say that, you know, they had
to revive you, and they said that you even upset
that they revived.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You because it was like it was so break that down.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Please tell us?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, that was a an incident happened in my
driveway on New Year's Day, And uh yeah, it's a
lot you know, I had to spend a lot of
time writing a book about even so there's a lot
of a lot of healing it goes on in that.
But yeah, it's like it's like a you know, near
death experience essentially, and it's an incident that that transpired that.
(09:23):
I mean, I have like zero regrets about it. I
do it again for the same instance. What happened maybe
I'd go about it a little bit differently. But yeah,
my nephew, Yeah, he was at risk. He's gonna get
ran over by the machine. So I tried to jump
back on. I got knocked off of this tank like
machine and try to jump back on it, and it
has like these tank tracks, and it's you can't. It's
(09:45):
it's a stupid thing, ultimately, really to do. But you
know what else you gonna do. I'm not gonna sit
there and watch him get crushed, So I try to
jump onto the machine to stop it, and then I
got crushed instead. But at any rate, you know, we
know the end of the story here and flourishing and happy,
and I learned so many great things and gifts that
came from from dying and coming back. You know, it's
(10:09):
if you could so you've actually died, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Did you see heaven or did you?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah? Well, I don't know if we call it heaven,
but I guess, you know, a version of it is.
It's pretty pretty amazing. I what I was really strange
though about it all. It's like I have very specific
sort of feelings about it privately. And then there's this
doctor I talked to that and I talked with on
this Oprah on the Opra show that she has and
(10:34):
this guy that all he does is is deal with
near death experiences, and then he spoke about sort of
the general sort of ideas of things that that people
experience over the forty years he's been studying it. And
by the time it got to me to ask me questions,
I had nothing to say. The guy I almost said
word for word what I wrote in the book about
my personal experience, and it ends up being like really
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common with everybody that has a near death experience. So
it's not that I didn't feel special thing. I just
felt like it's actually felt more concrete resolved about what
does happen when you pass or when you almost pass
or I mean I certainly went away for a minute
or I don't know how much. Time doesn't matter, but
it's a pretty pretty interesting experience. And then to know
(11:19):
that I wasn't alone in it, that it wasn't just
sort of my you know, one time shot at it. It
was that it's there's something really concrete about it, and
it's beautiful, and it's it's ultimately in the short of it,
I think just about love and the only thing sort
of you take with you because like like hate, right,
a very very powerful powerful human emotion. It could run
a country on it. Love sadly can't, even though it's
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pretty powerful human emotion, right, but it hate only exists
on the on the tails of love because hate burns out,
burns hot and fast, and then it dies there. I
just can't hate forever, but you can love forever. It's
a perpetuity. And that's the somethly thing you can't take
with you. And it's a it's a beautiful you know.
It's how I kind of continue on as I walk
through the day and breathe through the day and feel
(12:06):
blessed and honored to be here. But I only focus
on shared experiences with love and people I care about,
and nothing else really matters outside that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
How did you How did your nephew appreciate you saving life?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Oh? Yeah, well, the depths of we've already have a
very very close family, and my friendships I have for
a very long time, we're also very close. All those
is deepened immensely. It's it's you kind of you kind
you know those extra sketches, right, it's kind of like,
you know, racing the extra sketch and that everything's kind
of cleared away and just it's more focused and purposeful
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and intended with everything that we do, everything that we do,
every thought that we have, every dream or or or
or belief. It starts, it starts kind of fresh with
you know. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty pretty pretty
dank good. I tell you, what.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Have you have?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You asked them to do something simple and he kind
of like hesitated, Like I don't feel like.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Uh no, I don't. I think he's I think he's
been pretty good. Yeah, everybody, we all took Look, I've
taken care of him, and he's definitely taking care of me.
Like my sister, but it's her birthday today and I
was just speaking to her. She's on her honeymoon and
in Italy, and yeah, she's, uh, you know, like she
was very instrumental in me and during the accident and
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you know, being strong headed and strong willed about you know,
all the stuff that to get me better. But yeah,
my yeah, my family is yeah, we will all say
yes to which I don't think we're saying each other.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's not scared of death at all.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I wasn't really scared before. But like It was really bad, guys.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It was exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I saw my eyeball with my other eyeball. My legs
are all twisted up. You know, it's pretty it's gnarly, right.
I'm like twenty five percent titanium in my so but
if that's the worst, that's the worst. But if that's
the worst of it, like this is all you got.
This like this is like probably can't get much worse.
Maybe if I you'd let me on fire. Maybe, but
your body already kind of shuts down in its nerve endings,
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and when you have that much kind of trauma going on,
so you're only kind of feeling X amount of pain
your your brain, the pain center can only take certain
amount of information otherwise the kind of its overloads. And
that's what happened. It was just all overloaded. So I
just felt like, you know, it was terrible, but mostly
it was like a cramp and I couldn't breathe. I
felt like I was suffocating. That was it. I mean,
(14:33):
I'm trying to I'm oversimplifying it, but you know, so.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yeah, you definitely are because from there to you go
from that and then you shoot second season of Mayor
of Kingstown.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that was. That was pretty fast, pretty fast,
you know, from me from almost a year to date
to go into season three to to shoot. Yeah, yeah,
that's it's it was. You know, I was, I was,
I was doing pretty well, I was moving around, I
was doing really well, and I wanted to get kind
of back out into the world. I was always wanting
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to kind of get back out into the world to
kind of push away, like, Okay, yeah, I'm walking again.
They said I wouldn't. I'm doing I'm doing better than
I thought I would. But I wanted to kind of
get back into the world and start working again. And
it was a little a little early on, like you know,
because of my energy levels were pretty low. And but anyway,
that's it's. I was. Getting back to work was important
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to me, even though I really struggled, which I found strange,
but then not so strange because obviously Mary Kings sounds
fictional even it's based on a lot of truths, but
I'm still saying lines, I'm still playing a character. That's
I have to live in reality and real real, real
nonfiction just to exist through my day, right, I have
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to breathe, I have to walk, use a lot of energy,
to walk right and do all these things right at
this time, So I felt it felt really weird to
go play Make Believe when I have to really live
in real fucking reality. Sorry, but I have to live
in real reality, right, so like it's no joke, So
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it was. I found that to be a little tricky
in the beginning, but then once I got it was
really more. Also, my blood work was really bad, my hemoglobin,
and if you know anything about that, as a two,
it was like the kind of the blood of a
dead man. So I had no energy. I had no
like my minochondriar. Everything was all messed up. So once
I got that corrected and did some hormone replacement all
these other different things, I got more energy, and then
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I really started to flourish more through and then playing
make Believe was a little bit more palatable.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I suppose, how were you spiritually before the accident. Did
you believe in God?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm I'm I'm certainly godly, but
I but my dad is a theologist, so I studied
every religion growing up, so I don't really subscribe to
any particular type of organized religion, but I definitely of
a godly sort of spiritual guide, so none of that's
ultimately changed. Outside I still believe in something that's I like,
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I don't know what brought me back, like I wasn't
when I died. I didn't want to come back, but
that something brought me back, something outside of it. I
don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It was there on the other side, like no, not
your times.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
No, no, if it's it's it's anyone. It's there's no time,
place in space. So it's everyone, all things all at once.
You know. I saw me the same age as I
was with my dad or my mom or anybody. You're
just all once. It's all happening at once, and it's
magnificent and peaceful and quiet. So there's nothing that like
like rip me back or a thing. I just remember
coming more back in the consciousness and I saw my
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eyeball in the eyes. I'm like, oh, I'm back in
this body. Like I was just doing so good, doing
so good. But then I'm like, all, here we go.
We got to overcome these obstacles and start breathing again,
and you know, and thank God, you know, but that
I was, you know, pulled back even though I didn't
want to be, did.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It make me appreciate God even more.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I don't know if more I think I I look,
I don't know if it's about appreciating God more. I
think it's about a I think I appreciate like like
love more. Or I really just wiped away all the
white noise of nonsense that I gave credence to. There's
so many things that you know, I gave value to
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that doesn't have any value, and I continue down that path,
whether that's a path of God or not. It's just
like I just only do things that are very purposeful
and very intended. I don't do anything otherwise. I don't
do anything the kind of I don't know anything with
my one toe. It's either all or not. Everything I
do is with great, great purpose and great clarity. And
there's a free it's very freeing right when we allow
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ourselves to not get our own way, not to just
be just so focused on what we really want and
what we really want and like what really has value.
And you know, I had to go to the nth
degree right to to learn that. I mean, it's partially
why I was kind of writing a book about it.
If anybody else could grab on to some of the
blessings because I got so many gifts and blessings from
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being tested to my limits and and squeezing all the
crap out of me. I suppose you know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
The book is my next breath.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Is it true that Marvel reportedly cuts your salary in
half because of the snowplow incident?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Not because of the snowplows, No, it's just cause, you know,
and then on to do season two and they're just
off offered half the amount to do season two. I'm like, yeah,
of course I love to do it, but it's going
to take a lot of physical work to get back
and do it. So and also just the timing because
it would take a little bit more time for me
to physically do the role. And maybe I just wasn't
(19:42):
ready last year. It's like maybe it's it's it'll happen,
you know, in the in a year or two to come,
you know, but because I was still in recovery right now,
it will be for for the rest of my life.
But I'm just getting stronger every day.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
You know, Are you doom today in Secret Wars and
all that?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Damn no, are you afraid that you know what the
multi not?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They can just bring another hawk eye from.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, there you go. If they want to do that,
they can go ahead of all means you can do that.
I got, I got. I'm pretty busy myself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was going to I was gonna say, what was
a difficult getting back?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And the reason I'm asking is your fans. A lot
of times fans don't care what you're going through. Right,
just said all the stuff that you're going through with
hemoglobin and your blood and your eye on the table.
Most people don't it on the table. I'm sorry, but
you know, how do you deal with fans with that?
Because they still want their celebrity, they still want their hero,
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they still want that time, that talk time.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
How did you deal with that? Well, it's it's the
strange thing about that because most most of my relationship
with fans or just people in general across the planet
is really shifted from a guy that that slung arrows
to like a guy that overcame some real huge obstacles.
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So it's it's less selfies. I still take selfies. It's
still like you know, signing, you know, bubble heads and
all all this stuff, right, but there's there's a greater
awareness to like, you know, I'll get people to just
walk by me and be like, glad you're with us, man,
good on you for overcoming a thing, like you're a
good man. Whatever the heck it is. It's something really
connective and really human exchange that I get with people,
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whether fans or not, or but it's it's less sort
of like I just because selfies are kind of like
you know, the vampiresh kind of activity. It's like to
take something.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's people were more giving typically, but there's still I mean,
I spend as soon as they land here, I'm signing stuff,
but I don't I don't take offense to that stuff.
I don't think they're forgetting about things. Because actually, one
gal gave me this beautiful like this. They do this
pencil like really fine dot thing. It's a drawing of
like it's of my face and I'm like, oh my gosh,
it's so beautiful. How much time that that takes, like
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you know, a week or whatever anyway, And I just
think that, you know, there's I find that that people
have been more thoughtful in kind. You know, it's not everyone,
but you know, I just think generally there's been a
great shift, and it's not so much about that, ask
so much about the fandom of things. You know, that
was a real truth.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You love your fans because you even created an app
right where your fans can like interact with you.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Oh that was Yeah. I did that back in the
day when because I was not a big social media
fan because there's so many people on it. So I
was trying to just to have if I was going
to communicate, let me do it with real fans, not
just people that were bots or whatever the heck's up
on social media. I don't trust any of that stuff.
So yeah, I did that like for maybe like a
year or so, and it was fun to be actually
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to really engage because you know who your audience is
because there was a very specific audience. But I ended
up taking too much time, so I just couldn't continue it.
You know, I had to be a dad too and
all these other things, right, So I got you.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Your fans love that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, for the time I had it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
When you first joined the Marvel Universe, did you imagine
it would become such a defighting part of your career.
I'm not show you get yelled at homs, people yell
hawkeye at you every day.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm glad I really went
down the road with it. But no one ever expected it,
even like the Marble people were like kind of taking
aback by it all and but as it. But it
happened pretty quickly from Iron Man and then into the
first Avengers essentially moved pretty quick. And what a great
(23:28):
you know, I don't know when we thirteen fourteen years
into it and still kind of in the ring, still fighting,
still throwing punches and taking punches. It's a it's a fun, fun,
fun world. And you know, the friendships that were formed
out of it. I mean it started off like so bizarre.
Some of us knew each other before we started filming
The Avengers, but there's like Hemsworth we didn't know, and
(23:52):
a few of the people and but it's strange. It's
it's like a Halloween costumes. We're all like wearing these
bizarre outfits and these props, foam hammer, all these weird things,
and uh, we were like what do we do? We
all like, what are we doing? I don't know, It's
just you know, we at least we're doing it together.
And it worked out, you know, pretty great, right. It
was ended up being like you know, I got really
(24:13):
great friendships out of the deal that have you know,
really great value in my life, you know, and through
a lot of marriages, divorces and kids and all these
great things.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
How script was the script because I always think about
this one line, right, it was an end game and
it was when y'all was arguing about after Natalie Na Talla.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Died Natalie Oh yeah, yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Say maybe you want to go talk to them. Okay,
go grab your hammer and you go fly and talk
to him. I'm like, it just sounded off in the script.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Why this factice I made that one up? You did?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
No ways wrote that they told in that moment.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Well yeah, they let you know with the brothers on
that one where you have certain freedoms to you know, Look,
it's not about the best line. It can always win,
and especially but that's not a comedic one. Usually it's
about comedy stuff. Well, if we're throw in something that's
very charactery, it's like it's it's never it's you can
be loose with some things. It depends on the you know,
(25:11):
you never want to mess with the obvious storylines and
things like that, and things have to always be truthful.
So but that was like a very heated sort of
you know, kind of kind of human Yeah. Yeah, a
lot of us are. And it's it's, you know, with
the whole to eat chuck something across the lake, and
I think everyone's got thrown feelings. But yeah, and also
like you know, Hawkeys, he doesn't have any superpower. It's
(25:33):
not like really like a superhero. He is, but he's
you know, very he's like a he's like the dad
of of of the Marvel universe in a lot of ways,
you know, so you know he and and that line
is just something very sort of kind of pragmatic of like, yeah,
you can go fly around with your superpower super fabio,
you know whatever. Thing right, It's just something you know,
truthful as you you can be. You know. They look,
(25:56):
they wouldn't put it in if it wasn't truthful.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
So yeah, I see something in regards to Marvel.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
You know, you've had your you had some controversies, you know,
allegations your ex wife made about you. But why did
Marvels stick with you but was quick to discard somebody
like Jonathan Mage's.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if
there's which the difference between you know, gossip and then
the differents between anything else. I don't know enough about
Jonathan Uh in this situation too uh to know. I
know they had big plans for that character, that's for sure.
(26:33):
So whatever transpired, Yeah, that's I mean that sucks. I
think if due diligence, I think really has to be
played out. So I don't I don't know enough information
to know.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And how it happened, I mean I didn't you alsoituays
have nothing to do with each other, But I'm about
the overall you.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Know, arch of Marvel.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah, well that I think it's I think there's
a bigger, big, just kind of scope to that, just
you know, like you know, the idea of public opinion
becoming part of like a court process or something like that.
It's like, well, how about law and all that, you know,
like when they're like, you know, public opinion become more
valuable than the actual truth or real you know, anything
(27:17):
on any situation. Right, And we've had that for a while,
ever since the with media and social media and all
that sort of stuff. Sort of connectivity and you know,
I think it'd be Ma's kind of dangerous, yes me,
you know, I agree, I think it's pretty dangerous, like
all that, all the cancer culture and all that sort
of stuff. It's like, wow, man, that just makes me
(27:38):
want to run and hide from, like and why why
put yourself out there and do anything for anybody at all?
You know, It's like it's really kind of anybody can
say anything. Yeah yeah, then they can't, and that so
silly like And.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Marveled didn't. Right, I'm
glad Marveled.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Saw allegations for what they was and stuck by you.
I just wondered why they didn't extend that same grace
as somebody like Jonathan. You've seen them on video running
away from a situation.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, I do not know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, Well, we appreciate you for joining us Season four.
Mayor of Kingstown Man sings.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Are you still doing music?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah? I still do music. Music always been like number
one in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What type of music?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Pop?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Country, rap?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
He does not rap? Yeah, I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
So you still are making music because it is your passion?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah yeah still yeah, still do music. Just haven't had
the time. I've been kind of since the incident I've had.
I just prioritized my time right now and it's with
my family and my daughter and my health and then
my foundation.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Alright, well, there you have it, Jeremy Renna.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check out Season four
Mayor of Kingstown premieres on the twenty six on Paramount Plus.
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
Kingstown Season four is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
That's right, man. That's been a wonderful job. Yeah. I
love it. Man, it's pretty exciting we've got to especially
this far into the series. It's the best season so
far because of I think just because when you know
the characters better season one. Huh you said better than
(01:23):
the season one? Well yeah, yeah, yeah, just because the
audience will know all the characters, so now we can
take all this instead of having a bunch of being
seen d storylines, we can put everybody into the same narrative.
So we're all kind of we're watching a movie type
of vibe. So pretty excited about that. Which is a
lot of amazing characters in the show too. It's pretty diverse.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You you've played everything from blue collar heroes the conflicted
anti heroes.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What kind of roles challenge you the most at this stage?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, I think like all those. I think, you know,
if you play a bad guy, it's got to be
something pretty conflicted. You might, you know, with the audience
kind of has a great understanding of why he's a
bad guy and a good guy. You know, you have
to have things go wrong for you otherwise, you know,
we don't have a story, right, So I just look
for always complicated characters. I think that's whether you ride
(02:10):
the line of I think I've even kind of built
a career of like is he a good guy or
a bad guy? You're not going already where he's both
or just like every human being on the planet, there's
a lot of good in a lot of us, and
then then we can do we can do bad behavior,
but can still be a good person. Right. These are
all just very human sort of traits and behaviors. So
I'm kind of attracted to those.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's hard to get out of that space when you
dive so deep into like those moral gray areas, especially
like on the show like.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Kingsun No, Yeah, there's there's such you know, like when
I put that suit on, there's a there's a certain
there's this an energy to think same if I suit
up for Hawkeye or whatever it might be. There's it's
easy want to shed the skin of the the actual
skin you can really kind of emotionally in psychologically you know,
shed that you kind of have to, you have to
practice that.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
How do you see your character might on the show.
Do you see him as superhero, anti hero, something in between?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
How do you? I don't know, there's if hero is
in there, I think it's uh. I think there's a
moral code to him that's and ethics to him that
I'm attracted to, even though it might come with some
gray area moral gray area as well being you know,
coming from an incarceration, and but I think there's something
(03:24):
selfless about Mike McCluskey that I'm attracted to. So that
does make him more heroic or more good, I think,
than than bad, even though there are some moral you know,
gray areas with him, But I think the intention behind
him is always forthright and being selfless.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
When you look at how you played a Mayo of
Kingston in his show, and then you look at today's
American and some of the things that politics is doing, now,
how do you compare the same.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I think mcclussey's kind of needed, you know, we need,
we need. I think someone that can kind of grease
the wheels on all all all sides and all kind
of smooth the edges of people. I think there's a
lot of devices this that kind of goes on and
a lot of things that can divide us, and I
think what's important is to unite us all like in
(04:15):
just like in Mary Kingstown in that world, a world
of incarceration. You know, there's there's people waiting for people
to get out of the prison. There's people waiting to
get out of prison. There's some people that work in
the prison, and uh, in all all different levels of incarceration.
How how that world works. I think there has to
be some sort of grease to kind of uh, you know,
(04:35):
unite people in all these different perspectives, Like it happens
all the time in real life with you know, just
the prison guard life is a very brutal job or
just being incarcerated, that's a very brutal sort of place
in space to be. I think that this had a
really cool documentary that came out that was shot in
the prison.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh I heard about that.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, such amazing. I just saw it. I don't know,
I can't remember what it was on on Netflix or something, but.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Some about Alabama.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly in Birmingham Friday and everybody watch it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah. But it's sort of like kind of injustices that
go on, you know, and and incarceration and so anyways,
it's just it's I just think it's like, you know,
I think there's a there is a kind of kind
of great need for that. Uh, like the morally great
area guy had to come in and be able to
listen to everybody. I think that's what even what sort
of politicians should do?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You think we should do that more?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I was going to ask, because in mayor of Kingstown,
you deal with the bad guys and the good guys, correct,
but you are the kind of keeping the peace with
that side. And I feel like sometimes with maya's and
governors or even I can't even say president, but maya's
and governors, seems like they stay away from the bad guys,
like they just messed with the good guys.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Where they can't make sure there is peace.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, you know what I think, like money just sort
of pushes us around and and uh forces our handed
I think I think capitalism is sort of the crushing
of humanity for us right now. And uh, you know,
I don't really lead that way. I kind of lead
with them more open heart. But yeah, I think you know,
(06:08):
you know, you're supposed to serve the people. But to
serve the people, you have to listen to the people,
understand the people. Also, the people have to speak out,
and we have to like you know, be uh be
vocal and you know, everybody needs to be witnessed, right,
Everybody needs to be understood. And when we don't feel
that way, we get divided, right, And you know, I
think we need to find ways to to unite, man
(06:31):
because that's that's what we are. That's well how you know,
how we how we survive, is how we succeed. It's
how we flourish.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, even if you can't fully understand a person's
you know, story, understand their existence as a human, I
think the golden rule that we learned as kids, just
apply that everything.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Exactly, third grade playground rules. That's that's my sort of
like religion, if you will. It's like all that third
great playground stuff. It's like, treat people like you want
to be treated like all that stuff. And it's like
if we operate from that accord, you know, if we
got like tax breaks for doing those applying those rules,
like you know, we've been doing it more often, so
I think it's important to you know, at least, that's
how I think we can all even agree that that's gonna.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Work for all of the crazy tax base.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Basically for being kind, yeah, for being kind, for walking
someone across the street. But yeah, for Yeah, then you
got everybody hugging each other and mowing each other's lawns.
And I love that, right. I mean that's just called community,
that's called humanity, right, And I think we're in a
system that doesn't allow for that to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sadly, How do you humanize a man who operates in
a world where power often replaces compassion.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I think that's what I lean on the things I
think the family part aspect of him, I think I
lean all the things that that do make him to
have that fortitude. For like, McCluskey has like a strong
family ties, right, he's half his family's and cops. But
he was incarcerated. But he was but we didn't go
too much into the backstory that. But he's incarcerated and
didn't do the thing. He was kind of like the
(08:04):
scapegoat for why he was incarcerated. But at any rate, there's
a code, right, there's a moral code that I think
is kind of inspiring. It inspires me, So I really
just focus on the things that that make him good.
That the righteousness of him is about the righteousnes of
others and not about its selfless right. It's not about
him serving himself, and I really like that about the character.
(08:26):
I think there's something, you know, if it's anti hero
or heroic about him, it's that's that selflessness. And I
think that's that's a great message to send. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now I wanted to I wanted to go back a
little bit a couple of years ago, right, I remember
you all over the news in twenty twenty three. A
fourteen thousand pounds snow plow ran you, over you and
saving your nephew. They say that, you know, they had
to revive you, and they said that you even upset
that they revived.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You because it was like it was so break that down.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Please tell us?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, that was a an incident happened in my
driveway on New Year's Day, And uh yeah, it's a
lot you know, I had to spend a lot of
time writing a book about even so there's a lot
of a lot of healing it goes on in that.
But yeah, it's like it's like a you know, near
death experience essentially, and it's an incident that that transpired that.
(09:23):
I mean, I have like zero regrets about it. I
do it again for the same instance. What happened maybe
I'd go about it a little bit differently. But yeah,
my nephew, Yeah, he was at risk. He's gonna get
ran over by the machine. So I tried to jump
back on. I got knocked off of this tank like
machine and try to jump back on it, and it
has like these tank tracks, and it's you can't. It's
(09:45):
it's a stupid thing, ultimately, really to do. But you
know what else you gonna do. I'm not gonna sit
there and watch him get crushed, So I try to
jump onto the machine to stop it, and then I
got crushed instead. But at any rate, you know, we
know the end of the story here and flourishing and happy,
and I learned so many great things and gifts that
came from from dying and coming back. You know, it's
(10:09):
if you could so you've actually died, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Did you see heaven or did you?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah? Well, I don't know if we call it heaven,
but I guess, you know, a version of it is.
It's pretty pretty amazing. I what I was really strange
though about it all. It's like I have very specific
sort of feelings about it privately. And then there's this
doctor I talked to that and I talked with on
this Oprah on the Opra show that she has and
(10:34):
this guy that all he does is is deal with
near death experiences, and then he spoke about sort of
the general sort of ideas of things that that people
experience over the forty years he's been studying it. And
by the time it got to me to ask me questions,
I had nothing to say. The guy I almost said
word for word what I wrote in the book about
my personal experience, and it ends up being like really
(10:54):
common with everybody that has a near death experience. So
it's not that I didn't feel special thing. I just
felt like it's actually felt more concrete resolved about what
does happen when you pass or when you almost pass
or I mean I certainly went away for a minute
or I don't know how much. Time doesn't matter, but
it's a pretty pretty interesting experience. And then to know
(11:19):
that I wasn't alone in it, that it wasn't just
sort of my you know, one time shot at it. It
was that it's there's something really concrete about it, and
it's beautiful, and it's it's ultimately in the short of it,
I think just about love and the only thing sort
of you take with you because like like hate, right,
a very very powerful powerful human emotion. It could run
a country on it. Love sadly can't, even though it's
(11:43):
pretty powerful human emotion, right, but it hate only exists
on the on the tails of love because hate burns out,
burns hot and fast, and then it dies there. I
just can't hate forever, but you can love forever. It's
a perpetuity. And that's the somethly thing you can't take
with you. And it's a it's a beautiful you know.
It's how I kind of continue on as I walk
through the day and breathe through the day and feel
(12:06):
blessed and honored to be here. But I only focus
on shared experiences with love and people I care about,
and nothing else really matters outside that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
How did you How did your nephew appreciate you saving life?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Oh? Yeah, well, the depths of we've already have a
very very close family, and my friendships I have for
a very long time, we're also very close. All those
is deepened immensely. It's it's you kind of you kind
you know those extra sketches, right, it's kind of like,
you know, racing the extra sketch and that everything's kind
of cleared away and just it's more focused and purposeful
(12:43):
and intended with everything that we do, everything that we do,
every thought that we have, every dream or or or
or belief. It starts, it starts kind of fresh with
you know. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty pretty pretty
dank good. I tell you, what.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Have you have?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You asked them to do something simple and he kind
of like hesitated, Like I don't feel like.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Uh no, I don't. I think he's I think he's
been pretty good. Yeah, everybody, we all took Look, I've
taken care of him, and he's definitely taking care of me.
Like my sister, but it's her birthday today and I
was just speaking to her. She's on her honeymoon and
in Italy, and yeah, she's, uh, you know, like she
was very instrumental in me and during the accident and
(13:30):
you know, being strong headed and strong willed about you know,
all the stuff that to get me better. But yeah,
my yeah, my family is yeah, we will all say
yes to which I don't think we're saying each other.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's not scared of death at all.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I wasn't really scared before. But like It was really bad, guys.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It was exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I saw my eyeball with my other eyeball. My legs
are all twisted up. You know, it's pretty it's gnarly, right.
I'm like twenty five percent titanium in my so but
if that's the worst, that's the worst. But if that's
the worst of it, like this is all you got.
This like this is like probably can't get much worse.
Maybe if I you'd let me on fire. Maybe, but
your body already kind of shuts down in its nerve endings,
(14:13):
and when you have that much kind of trauma going on,
so you're only kind of feeling X amount of pain
your your brain, the pain center can only take certain
amount of information otherwise the kind of its overloads. And
that's what happened. It was just all overloaded. So I
just felt like, you know, it was terrible, but mostly
it was like a cramp and I couldn't breathe. I
felt like I was suffocating. That was it. I mean,
(14:33):
I'm trying to I'm oversimplifying it, but you know, so.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yeah, you definitely are because from there to you go
from that and then you shoot second season of Mayor
of Kingstown.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that was. That was pretty fast, pretty fast,
you know, from me from almost a year to date
to go into season three to to shoot. Yeah, yeah,
that's it's it was. You know, I was, I was,
I was doing pretty well, I was moving around, I
was doing really well, and I wanted to get kind
of back out into the world. I was always wanting
(15:07):
to kind of get back out into the world to
kind of push away, like, Okay, yeah, I'm walking again.
They said I wouldn't. I'm doing I'm doing better than
I thought I would. But I wanted to kind of
get back into the world and start working again. And
it was a little a little early on, like you know,
because of my energy levels were pretty low. And but anyway,
that's it's. I was. Getting back to work was important
(15:29):
to me, even though I really struggled, which I found strange,
but then not so strange because obviously Mary Kings sounds
fictional even it's based on a lot of truths, but
I'm still saying lines, I'm still playing a character. That's
I have to live in reality and real real, real
nonfiction just to exist through my day, right, I have
(15:51):
to breathe, I have to walk, use a lot of energy,
to walk right and do all these things right at
this time, So I felt it felt really weird to
go play Make Believe when I have to really live
in real fucking reality. Sorry, but I have to live
in real reality, right, so like it's no joke, So
(16:12):
it was. I found that to be a little tricky
in the beginning, but then once I got it was
really more. Also, my blood work was really bad, my hemoglobin,
and if you know anything about that, as a two,
it was like the kind of the blood of a
dead man. So I had no energy. I had no
like my minochondriar. Everything was all messed up. So once
I got that corrected and did some hormone replacement all
these other different things, I got more energy, and then
(16:32):
I really started to flourish more through and then playing
make Believe was a little bit more palatable.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I suppose, how were you spiritually before the accident. Did
you believe in God?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm I'm I'm certainly godly, but
I but my dad is a theologist, so I studied
every religion growing up, so I don't really subscribe to
any particular type of organized religion, but I definitely of
a godly sort of spiritual guide, so none of that's
ultimately changed. Outside I still believe in something that's I like,
(17:03):
I don't know what brought me back, like I wasn't
when I died. I didn't want to come back, but
that something brought me back, something outside of it. I
don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It was there on the other side, like no, not
your times.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
No, no, if it's it's it's anyone. It's there's no time,
place in space. So it's everyone, all things all at once.
You know. I saw me the same age as I
was with my dad or my mom or anybody. You're
just all once. It's all happening at once, and it's
magnificent and peaceful and quiet. So there's nothing that like
like rip me back or a thing. I just remember
coming more back in the consciousness and I saw my
(17:38):
eyeball in the eyes. I'm like, oh, I'm back in
this body. Like I was just doing so good, doing
so good. But then I'm like, all, here we go.
We got to overcome these obstacles and start breathing again,
and you know, and thank God, you know, but that
I was, you know, pulled back even though I didn't
want to be, did.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It make me appreciate God even more.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I don't know if more I think I I look,
I don't know if it's about appreciating God more. I
think it's about a I think I appreciate like like
love more. Or I really just wiped away all the
white noise of nonsense that I gave credence to. There's
so many things that you know, I gave value to
(18:20):
that doesn't have any value, and I continue down that path,
whether that's a path of God or not. It's just
like I just only do things that are very purposeful
and very intended. I don't do anything otherwise. I don't
do anything the kind of I don't know anything with
my one toe. It's either all or not. Everything I
do is with great, great purpose and great clarity. And
there's a free it's very freeing right when we allow
(18:44):
ourselves to not get our own way, not to just
be just so focused on what we really want and
what we really want and like what really has value.
And you know, I had to go to the nth
degree right to to learn that. I mean, it's partially
why I was kind of writing a book about it.
If anybody else could grab on to some of the
blessings because I got so many gifts and blessings from
(19:07):
being tested to my limits and and squeezing all the
crap out of me. I suppose you know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
The book is my next breath.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Is it true that Marvel reportedly cuts your salary in
half because of the snowplow incident?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Not because of the snowplows, No, it's just cause, you know,
and then on to do season two and they're just
off offered half the amount to do season two. I'm like, yeah,
of course I love to do it, but it's going
to take a lot of physical work to get back
and do it. So and also just the timing because
it would take a little bit more time for me
to physically do the role. And maybe I just wasn't
(19:42):
ready last year. It's like maybe it's it's it'll happen,
you know, in the in a year or two to come,
you know, but because I was still in recovery right now,
it will be for for the rest of my life.
But I'm just getting stronger every day.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
You know, Are you doom today in Secret Wars and
all that?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Damn no, are you afraid that you know what the
multi not?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They can just bring another hawk eye from.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, there you go. If they want to do that,
they can go ahead of all means you can do that.
I got, I got. I'm pretty busy myself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was going to I was gonna say, what was
a difficult getting back?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And the reason I'm asking is your fans. A lot
of times fans don't care what you're going through. Right,
just said all the stuff that you're going through with
hemoglobin and your blood and your eye on the table.
Most people don't it on the table. I'm sorry, but
you know, how do you deal with fans with that?
Because they still want their celebrity, they still want their hero,
(20:38):
they still want that time, that talk time.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
How did you deal with that? Well, it's it's the
strange thing about that because most most of my relationship
with fans or just people in general across the planet
is really shifted from a guy that that slung arrows
to like a guy that overcame some real huge obstacles.
(21:01):
So it's it's less selfies. I still take selfies. It's
still like you know, signing, you know, bubble heads and
all all this stuff, right, but there's there's a greater
awareness to like, you know, I'll get people to just
walk by me and be like, glad you're with us, man,
good on you for overcoming a thing, like you're a
good man. Whatever the heck it is. It's something really
connective and really human exchange that I get with people,
(21:25):
whether fans or not, or but it's it's less sort
of like I just because selfies are kind of like
you know, the vampiresh kind of activity. It's like to
take something.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's people were more giving typically, but there's still I mean,
I spend as soon as they land here, I'm signing stuff,
but I don't I don't take offense to that stuff.
I don't think they're forgetting about things. Because actually, one
gal gave me this beautiful like this. They do this
pencil like really fine dot thing. It's a drawing of
like it's of my face and I'm like, oh my gosh,
it's so beautiful. How much time that that takes, like
(21:58):
you know, a week or whatever anyway, And I just
think that, you know, there's I find that that people
have been more thoughtful in kind. You know, it's not everyone,
but you know, I just think generally there's been a
great shift, and it's not so much about that, ask
so much about the fandom of things. You know, that
was a real truth.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You love your fans because you even created an app
right where your fans can like interact with you.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Oh that was Yeah. I did that back in the
day when because I was not a big social media
fan because there's so many people on it. So I
was trying to just to have if I was going
to communicate, let me do it with real fans, not
just people that were bots or whatever the heck's up
on social media. I don't trust any of that stuff.
So yeah, I did that like for maybe like a
year or so, and it was fun to be actually
(22:43):
to really engage because you know who your audience is
because there was a very specific audience. But I ended
up taking too much time, so I just couldn't continue it.
You know, I had to be a dad too and
all these other things, right, So I got you.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Your fans love that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, for the time I had it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
When you first joined the Marvel Universe, did you imagine
it would become such a defighting part of your career.
I'm not show you get yelled at homs, people yell
hawkeye at you every day.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm glad I really went
down the road with it. But no one ever expected it,
even like the Marble people were like kind of taking
aback by it all and but as it. But it
happened pretty quickly from Iron Man and then into the
first Avengers essentially moved pretty quick. And what a great
(23:28):
you know, I don't know when we thirteen fourteen years
into it and still kind of in the ring, still fighting,
still throwing punches and taking punches. It's a it's a fun, fun,
fun world. And you know, the friendships that were formed
out of it. I mean it started off like so bizarre.
Some of us knew each other before we started filming
The Avengers, but there's like Hemsworth we didn't know, and
(23:52):
a few of the people and but it's strange. It's
it's like a Halloween costumes. We're all like wearing these
bizarre outfits and these props, foam hammer, all these weird things,
and uh, we were like what do we do? We
all like, what are we doing? I don't know, It's
just you know, we at least we're doing it together.
And it worked out, you know, pretty great, right. It
was ended up being like you know, I got really
(24:13):
great friendships out of the deal that have you know,
really great value in my life, you know, and through
a lot of marriages, divorces and kids and all these
great things.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
How script was the script because I always think about
this one line, right, it was an end game and
it was when y'all was arguing about after Natalie Na Talla.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Died Natalie Oh yeah, yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Say maybe you want to go talk to them. Okay,
go grab your hammer and you go fly and talk
to him. I'm like, it just sounded off in the script.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Why this factice I made that one up? You did?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
No ways wrote that they told in that moment.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Well yeah, they let you know with the brothers on
that one where you have certain freedoms to you know, Look,
it's not about the best line. It can always win,
and especially but that's not a comedic one. Usually it's
about comedy stuff. Well, if we're throw in something that's
very charactery, it's like it's it's never it's you can
be loose with some things. It depends on the you know,
(25:11):
you never want to mess with the obvious storylines and
things like that, and things have to always be truthful.
So but that was like a very heated sort of
you know, kind of kind of human Yeah. Yeah, a
lot of us are. And it's it's, you know, with
the whole to eat chuck something across the lake, and
I think everyone's got thrown feelings. But yeah, and also
like you know, Hawkeys, he doesn't have any superpower. It's
(25:33):
not like really like a superhero. He is, but he's
you know, very he's like a he's like the dad
of of of the Marvel universe in a lot of ways,
you know, so you know he and and that line
is just something very sort of kind of pragmatic of like, yeah,
you can go fly around with your superpower super fabio,
you know whatever. Thing right, It's just something you know,
truthful as you you can be. You know. They look,
(25:56):
they wouldn't put it in if it wasn't truthful.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
So yeah, I see something in regards to Marvel.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
You know, you've had your you had some controversies, you know,
allegations your ex wife made about you. But why did
Marvels stick with you but was quick to discard somebody
like Jonathan Mage's.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if
there's which the difference between you know, gossip and then
the differents between anything else. I don't know enough about
Jonathan Uh in this situation too uh to know. I
know they had big plans for that character, that's for sure.
(26:33):
So whatever transpired, Yeah, that's I mean that sucks. I
think if due diligence, I think really has to be
played out. So I don't I don't know enough information
to know.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And how it happened, I mean I didn't you alsoituays
have nothing to do with each other, But I'm about
the overall you.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Know, arch of Marvel.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah, well that I think it's I think there's
a bigger, big, just kind of scope to that, just
you know, like you know, the idea of public opinion
becoming part of like a court process or something like that.
It's like, well, how about law and all that, you know,
like when they're like, you know, public opinion become more
valuable than the actual truth or real you know, anything
(27:17):
on any situation. Right, And we've had that for a while,
ever since the with media and social media and all
that sort of stuff. Sort of connectivity and you know,
I think it'd be Ma's kind of dangerous, yes me,
you know, I agree, I think it's pretty dangerous, like
all that, all the cancer culture and all that sort
of stuff. It's like, wow, man, that just makes me
(27:38):
want to run and hide from, like and why why
put yourself out there and do anything for anybody at all?
You know, It's like it's really kind of anybody can
say anything. Yeah yeah, then they can't, and that so
silly like And.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Marveled didn't. Right, I'm
glad Marveled.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Saw allegations for what they was and stuck by you.
I just wondered why they didn't extend that same grace
as somebody like Jonathan. You've seen them on video running
away from a situation.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, I do not know.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, Well, we appreciate you for joining us Season four.
Mayor of Kingstown Man sings.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Are you still doing music?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah? I still do music. Music always been like number
one in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What type of music?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Pop?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Country, rap?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
He does not rap? Yeah, I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
So you still are making music because it is your passion?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah yeah still yeah, still do music. Just haven't had
the time. I've been kind of since the incident I've had.
I just prioritized my time right now and it's with
my family and my daughter and my health and then
my foundation.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Alright, well, there you have it, Jeremy Renna.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check out Season four
Mayor of Kingstown premieres on the twenty six on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
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