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Vy just insulted her for that. Was so disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
It was so ridiculous and out of pocket for no
goddamn reasons.
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Yeah, well, I didn't mean to offend your family.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's a mind of good. How is yours? She said?
The boys at eighteen?
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I said, you know, you know I met the boys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Luckily, I'm not that sensitive.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I was talking about the boys. Okay, I believe you
time and you are fine?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Wine.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
How you feeling.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
I'm feeling really good. I'm really in a great place.
Work is you know, popping. I have this great new
movie that's coming out and I'm producing.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
It's been really, really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Do you miss Housewives at all?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So you're not coming back at all, not anytime soon? Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
No, I mean it was great.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It was great in terms of like I got a
new audience and they were really.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Wonderful things that happened because of the show. But I
think my time was up.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, so why did you leave because your time was up?
Or was it contracts?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
No, nothing like that. I just couldn't do it anymore.
It was really hurting my spirit. I just couldn't do it. Yeah,
that was really it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
People try to put you and pit you and Bose
against each other and they thought that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We don't know why.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I mean I met with Bose prior to her coming
onto the show for lunch.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We got along great. So No, it wasn't anything like that.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
It was just I couldn't physically, mentally spiritually do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm big on discernment.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How do you know, especially in this business, and something
does not agree with your spirit?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
You know what, I've been really great about choosing me
when when I'm when I'm faced with something, I've done
it with you know, relationships. I've done it in other
places where I felt like, you know what, if I
don't choose me, it will probably not work out for me.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah, So yeah, I have faith and I just knew
it was time. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Now, what is seton gonna do without you?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Girl? I don't know that's on her.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Support of way, but you now, sudden when we had
Bows up here. I'd asked her about the unfollowing on Instagram,
because that became a whole thing.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
You followed some of the ladies, all the.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Ladies when I left yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, when I left.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
And I mean people, the fans were commenting why they
thought it happened, and she said, and she thought, maybe
it was just like you know, you go through a breakup,
you just want to get rid of anything. That's exactly
the reason I just needed space. I just didn't, you know,
if you're I follow people who.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
I want to see what they're doing and I want
to support, and if you know, I don't see why
I need to follow you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I don't want to see what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
No, there's no need for it.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
There was also the thing too of when Erica Jane
and when Erica Jane and Bows were on Watch What
Happens Live and and he asks about you not returning
to the show.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Did you see that clip?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I saw the clip? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (03:13):
How did you feel about the answers?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Mean girls? M hmm, that's all.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
What was the clip? Because me and l look at each.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
Other, So basically he asked about how they felt about
Garsel and not returned to the show, and they were
silent and it was like nobody wanted to say anything.
And then when someone when Erica said something that was
like won't he do it? Like you know it was
it was like a there was a weird pause and
we were trying to figure out what that meant and
the fans hopped in the comments. When Bose was here
and sand And said that, uh, it was that there
(03:43):
was no support from her to you. She said that
that wasn't true, but did do you feel like she
supported you through that season?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
You really don't want to go back there, honestly, I'm
here from my movie. I love that I'm selling shows.
I just would like to stay on a positive note.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
One of them called you old, No, I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
People, and we were like we I think we attached
to you so much on the show because we're in
your life, and that's.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
Because we're fans of you and we miss you on
the show.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
I appreciate that I understand what you're doing, what you're
you know, I said, it's also your job that ain't me.
Speaker 10 (04:26):
I'm still attached to Fancy and I know that I
know that you probably like look I ain't fancy no
more either, but.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I loved I loved that character.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I love that job, like I had never really done
comedy and meeting Jamie and you know, us having instant chemistry,
and we thought if we did thirteen episodes we would
have been golden.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
We ended up doing a hundred episodes. Like, I mean,
it's unbelievable. I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Without someone saying fancy. He says when he's out there,
like where's fancy? So it's like people connected with that
and that it's a great thing.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
That's how it was.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
When you walked in a room.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
I don't know if you heard me, I was like,
oh shit, right, yes, when you walk on my damn.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I can't wait to housewives questions.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
He's not gonna let it go.
Speaker 10 (05:13):
But God did it and God is doing it because
you have not only one movie, you have two films,
but you're up here for taking that which also your
production company actually shot that as Yes, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Congra, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I mean, doing this franchise, Black Girl Missing franchise has
been an amazing thing.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And that's what I'm so grateful.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
For, for getting the platform to be able to put
out things that I think will help our community, help us,
And I was sick and tired of seeing the disparity
of when black and brown people go missing, that we
weren't getting the same coverage, we weren't getting the same
urgency or validation.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And we put out this.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Movie the first one, thinking that, Okay, if we can
get people to talk about it, that's a good thing.
And then the numbers went through the roof and it
was trending on Twitter at the time, and now we're.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Onto, you know, movie three. So it's been.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Really amazing and meeting amazing journalists who say, you know what,
we take accountability too because we can tell you who
the Jambonnets are, the Gabby Potito's, you know, the Natalie Holloways,
but we can't tell you the names of the black
girls because we're not featured like that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And that's what we.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Want people to do, is to know who we are
when we go missing.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Girl missing movie subtitle is very intentional, Yeah, yes, very intentional.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm sure I'm sure you did a deep dive into
a lot of the young black girls that are missing.
If you can't break it down, because you know, I'm
a father of four girls. Yes, where is the biggest
place that these girls are taken for?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And what reason is it? The mall? Is it bus stops?
Is it coming from school?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What is the biggest so I can.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Be on actually everywhere, it's actually everywhere.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
The second movie we did was called Abducted at in HBCU,
and we're really trying to teach the you know, not
only girls, but boys too, Like when you're in college, build.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
A community, you know, so that if you.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Don't show up for classes for three days, somebody's gonna
go work, so and so like it's about having a community,
but it's also ringing the bell. And my niece has
girls in college, and she was like, you're scaring me
with your movies, and I go, I'm trying to scare you,
you know, just so that we're all aware, so it
can happen anywhere.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The malls. There are guys that groom the girls.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I mean, there's all kinds of ways of these girls
going missing. I mean I was just in Vegas at
the airport and I went to the bathroom and went
the minute I closed the stall. There's a whole sign
about if you're being abducted, if you're being travel so
it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh the week I took a picture because I just
thought it was it wasn't strange. But one of them
was like, if you're with somebody who wants to offer
you money, I was like what, yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Yeah, And they also target girls who you know, sometimes
are more vulnerable and maybe there's you know, people at
home are working so she's alone.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
A lot, or there's you know, all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So I just took that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, they said you said, didn't ask you one time
when you was with your daughter, didn't ask you?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I was on the plane and uh when somebody came
on to the plane, is like if that's your daughter?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And I'm like, I hope so.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, but I'm actually glad they're asking, right, Yeah, just
because it's so prevalent when we're you know, not everyone's
aware of that. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
In this movie, you talk about community.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
In this movie, your community, your truck community shows up
for you in a big way, and it's through like
not that I don't want to give it away, but
they show for you in a big way.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
What's the importance of not finding community but knowing how
to utilize it best in a high stake situation, like
once someone goes missing and the cops won't help.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You, right, and that okay, that's one of the things
I will answer your question. But like a lot of
families have to take it upon themselves to look for
their family members because they're not getting the support they need.
So with the trucking community, by the way, there's a
there's a group of female truckers that are like badasses.
And we take it for granted. These people are on
(08:57):
the road a lot, they're alone, they're missing out on
you know, birthdays and anniversaries and what they and their
job is dangerous. So we wanted to showcase that there's
a community in every sector of life, no matter what
you do and no matter what your profession is.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
It's like, let people know, you know that you're around.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
One of the female truckers called him men they pick
up lizards.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
There there is that, Yes, yes, yes, yes, that is
the thing.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
But you know what, I learned a lot like these
truckers when they go driver.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's why like that he.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Is so okay, narrow minded.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Have you all been together across No?
Speaker 7 (09:49):
No, no, but yes, no, I was not a lot
know all the zs they.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Were before me.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Thank you, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Tell me about your husband. Know how long has he
been doing it?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
So he's been in the business for five years okay
or whatever. But like I met him three years ago,
so I was he was like two years into it
when I met him, and yeah, you know, we had
a couple of little lot of Liszt's hand there, you know,
but when I came in, they laughed.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Okay, yeah, just one.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
To know what female truck drivers called the men that
they pick up, that's all.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I don't know if they have a name for him.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I'm pretty sure she didn't do that research to do
this movie.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
That's not it.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Why how do you deal with him being on the road.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
I'm still trying to deal with it, okay, you know
because the schedule, with my schedule and his schedule, we
we're trying to figure out like how.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We can balance and then we have a one year old.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Oh so we're still trying to balance that and still
trying to be full time lovers.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
That's very hard, very hard.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You should's Mexicans, so you know what everything going on
in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Face It's like, why did I come this morning?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Are you talking about us? Yes, that's scary for everybody.
It's scary for everyone.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Is not really from ice R.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
The profile.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It's really sad. Yeah, it's a horrible place to be.
But that's another topic.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Why was it important to add the element of dealing
with an autistic family member?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
We really wanted to.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
There's so much misconceptions about autism and what that looks
like and what that is, and obviously there's different you know,
there's different stages of autism. So we really wanted to
showcase a character that is functioning. But that doesn't mean
that just because she has autism that she's irresponsible. And
(11:40):
but what happened was because she's autistic, she's dealing with
somebody online and you know, we all share too much,
and she shared too much and so then she gets
taken kidnapped.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
So yeah, it was first and then you are the
cool badass. Okay, you know what was Okay? So this
is the first time I've ever seen.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
A role like this.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
I've never played a role like this, so preparing for
something so different, yeah you are you know what was
that preparation? It was really really fun because we got
to talk to a couple of professional female truck drivers
and what she taught us was really great. And one
of the actress who plays my my sister comes from
(12:24):
a trucking community too. But it was just all about
like safety and how to drive and how to get
in and out of the truck, which, by the way.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
The trucks are so tall. By the end of shooting,
the back of my thighs were kneeling just from jumping
up and down.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
But it was just a fun role because it was
like something different from me.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Even the fighting choreography, even listen, I loved it.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Okay, that was good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
How does this affect you as a parent as a
mom now because you have young men, Yeah, that out
and about in college, in school, dating, How.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Does that af It affects me? And I'm much more aware.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
But I've always had conversations with my kids. One because
I have black kids, even those sometimes they look like
they could be you know, But I've always talked to
my kids, especially Oliver, about being respectful if you're the cops.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Come to you, or just being out in the world.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
You know, how to navigate being a black young man
and being respectful and because people will have misconceptions of you,
just because I remember I was in a supermarket with
my son, Oliver, and he went to go get something
and I was in another lane, and as he's coming around,
I was at the end of the aisle, and so
in between us was this older white woman and the
(13:36):
minute she saw Oliver, she clutched her purse and she
got You could tell she got tense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And I thought to myself, if anything happened.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
To you, he would be the first one to come
and help, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
But it's just the It's just how we're seeing sometimes,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How do I think we should have told people when
they do that, be like, I don't want it this fake?
Speaker 10 (14:02):
But how did he feel about that? Did he share
it with you? How he felt about that?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Or did he Yeah, he just kind of like brushed
it off, like, you know, I don't even know if
he realized it. But I saw it because I saw
him coming, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Why was it important for you guys to include the
domestic violence element in the movie in align with the
trucking world? Was there like research that you saw that
parallel to time?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah? No, not at all.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
I think the writers just you know, got you wanted
to put that in. There wasn't any It wasn't intentional
in terms of like we had to do that. I
think it was just to show like where Kai came
from and why she was so connected to her niece
because she didn't have children of her own, and so
that was really a way of setting that up.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
And I like the way, like as the big sister,
it's like the world is on your shoulders, but yeah,
you know what I mean, but you're handling it. And
then when you reveal certain things about yourself in the movie,
it shows you as human too.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Oh thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I mean I love the fact that we had like
that sister complicated complex relationship. We loved each other, but
there was still friction like in real life. And then
I also loved my relationship with my niece too. I
think there's a sweet side of how she looked up
to her and their bond, which I thought, you know,
was nice.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
When you and the producers get around, y'all, E was say, man,
we're tackling a lot of themes, right you. Yeah, pratic violence, stalking,
and the lack of honorability in black women, like do
you ever think yourself, Okay, maybe this film that too
many nuanced.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
No, we didn't think of like because I think life
is complex.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I think I don't think everything is just streamline and
everything's perfect. So in telling this story, we felt like
that was okay and it worked without being heavy handed
or you know, hitting.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You over the head. It just it felt like it
it could be real. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
What does it mean to you to have a legacy
network like Lifetime amplify these black stories?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, No, it means everything. I mean when we brought
them the first Black girl missing, they.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Got it right away.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
They were like, how soon can we can we show
this and can we you know, get behind it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
It was really great because a lot.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Of times people don't want to deal with the heavy stuff,
you know, but obviously Lifetime deals with, you know a
lot of things. But they they understood the assignment and
I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And now we're on movie three, so it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Do you like do you enjoy the acting part? Do
you enjoy reality part? Do you enjoy the EP part?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
My favorite is being a talk show host because I
did the real for I did the reel and before
the reel, I was up for the view and I
did Hollywood Today Live. I mean, that's my that's my wheelhouse.
But I love I mean, I'm a Sagittarius.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We get bored easy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So I'm getting up and doing the same thing every
day and all that every day that that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Like doing different things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I enjoyed the reality for EVERYBODJ.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'm sorry that's happening.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
It looks so good. You're setting things off.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I don't know what to make you feel good. I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But anyways, I like doing.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I like doing, challenging myself and doing all kinds of things.
But you know, producing now I'm really enjoying and going
into a room and pitching to networks.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I mean, it's a new side of me that if
somebody told me when I first started this industry that
I would be doing that, I'd be like, there's no way,
But yeah, I really enjoy it. Yeah, because I didn't
see that because we weren't really allowed back then. If
you were an actor, you were in that lane, you know,
and things are different now, so it's been really cool
to just you know, so.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Even when you saw black producers, black writers, black directors
back then, you never thought it was no wow, No.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I never I mean I thought, Okay, I'm acting and
I'll continue doing that. But I didn't see another road
after that. In terms of producing. I don't want to direct,
that's not my thing, but producing I really like.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Do you deal with an element of like imposter syndrome
sometimes when you're walking into those drums because you never
kind of saw it for you.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I just said that to a girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
You know, I walk into like, you know, going into
Netflix and Hulu and ABC and pitching shows, and I
walk it out and I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Like, who the fuck do I think?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I guess right?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
But I think sometimes you like, I couldn't. I couldn't
have dreamt this big, you know, coming from Haiti, not
knowing the language, you know, learning English, watching Sesame Street, Like,
I didn't know that all these things were possible.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
So I think that's the beauty of it is. Uh
Now I'm like, Wow, that's incredible. And my kids can
see that. You know, I can be a mom, but
I can also be all.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
These other things too, Yeah, which I think it's important
for your kids to see absolutely what was it stressful
for you at any moment because you didn't only start
in the movie, so you had learn lines and everything,
but like you produced it and then your production company
had so you had to wear so many different heads.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, for sure. I mean we tried to make all.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
The important decisions obviously before we started production, and then
once I was on set, I was strictly an actor
because that was important for me to just stay there.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, you know, especially since it's a role that I
haven't done before. But but yeah, it's been really fun.
It's been really kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Are you casting for any upcoming projects? Do you want
to absolutely? I want great absolutely to tell you look
like and that's about Taylor to a girl.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
And my father and your father.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That's good, he is the father.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, but I would love to audition.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I love that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What's your favorite form of storyteller?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Out of all out of the reality, I mean, out
of the talk shows, reality TV, the.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Movies, my favorite. I mean, I think again it goes
back to, you know, hosting and talking to people because
I love, I'm curious about people, and so that's I
guess my top thing. But after that, I you know acting.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Also, Yeah, do you feel pressure to as a producer
that one day have to tell a story from Haiti?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
You know, I've wanted to. I've done.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
My first producing job was a short that I did
about sex trafficking, and it wasn't so much about Haiti,
but we shot part of it in Haiti. And I
would love to. I would really love to. I feel
like we can't get a break.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So much rich history in that country, a lot of misconceptions, so.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Much, so much.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I mean, I feel like.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
It's been decades centuries since we've had hardship, and every
time we think we're gonna get to a better place,
we're knocked down.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So it's it's really discouraging and hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I didn't know you could speak English when no.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I couldn't speak a lick ofst I moved in January,
didn't speak a word of English, never seen white people,
and we moved to Massachusetts in January.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You are starting, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
So I watched, Yeah, I watched Sesame Street and learned
a apple b banana and yeah, I was seven.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
When did you discover the arts? And we're processing?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
You know, I always wanted I've always like would put
on little shows for my family.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
So I always had it in me.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, but I didn't discover I was discovered as a model.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
When I was seventeen.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
We moved to Miami because my mom couldn't take the
weather anymore in Boston. So I a friend of mine said,
do you want to be an extra in a commercial?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
And I was like, what's an extra? And he goes
it pays seventy five dollars a day for two days.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I was like, count me in. That was like big
money back then. And I was in this commercial by
the second day. There was a black, pretty black girl
that was a principal talent, and I went up to
her and I go, how do I do what you're doing? Like,
I don't want to be an extra? How do I
do that? She wasn't having it, so I found out
she was with this agency in Fort Lauderdale. I asked
my mom to borrow her car. I drove up to
(22:01):
Fort Lauderdale. I didn't have pictures, I didn't have an appointment.
I didn't know anything, but I thought somebody's gonna tell
me something. So I'm in Fort Lauderdale. I stop at
a red light. I poked my head out to chet
check my makeup in the mirror. So I do that,
and then I'm reaching for my lip gloss in my
bag on the passenger seat and a hand.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Comes in the car and scares a shit out of me.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
And it was the woman behind me. She got out
of her car at the red light. She gives me
a card and she goes, you should be a model.
And it was the agency I was going to without
an appointment, without oh wow, okay, look at you couldn't
have scripted it.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
So now I show up and I got a car.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And so now I'm like and they tested me, they
got pictures. I did test shoots with photographers, and about
nine months later Iileen Ford of the Ford Modeling Agency
was scouting all over the country and they asked ten
of us to come and meet with her. And I
met with Eileen Ford and she said, you should come
to New York.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
And I moved to New York at seventeen.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The models apartment was full, so I lived with Eileen
Ford and her husband Jerry on seventy first in Madison.
Didn't know anything, And that's how my modeling career started.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
And how crazy you become fancy and Jane faction.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Well, I started.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I moved to LA by then, and they were auditioning
girls and every time I had a modeling gig that
I had to do, so I kept on canceling the
audition and finally they were like, you've got to come in.
So I go in. And at the time that was
when the R. Kelly Downlow video was out right with
(23:41):
mister Biggs and myself. Yeah, and Jamie came up to me. Well,
I was waiting in the lobby. He goes, you know
how much I requested that video because that's when you
had the request videos.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And so I went in.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
We read and I thought, you know, there were other
girls that were by far know acting, had more acting
ability than me, and.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So I left thinking, Okay, at least I did it.
And then when I got the job, I was like, wow, yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
And we hit it off and we've been friends ever since.
I was at Karen's wedding recently.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And he's a good man.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
So even big then, right, you don't never have like
a little crush on Jamie.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Oh yeah, we both had a crush on each other,
but we said we weren't going to do anything, and
I got engaged two weeks before we wrapped, and he goes,
you couldn't wait.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I did ask that Chi would question.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
I don't know, because chemistry was yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I want to talk about the power community real quick,
because you said you moved from Massachusetts to Miami.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I didn't move into Miami.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And being around more people that look like you, and
I'm sure more Haitians give you give you a confidence book.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It was everything.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
It was everything because one my mom wanted to be
closer to Haiti so she could visit family. But going
to school with kids that had hair like me, that
look like me, I mean, it just changed everything. But
when I first went to school, they were like, oh,
she thinks she's white.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But that's because I.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Learned English, you know, in Massachusetts. Right, So, but it
was everything. It changed, It changed everything. I felt like
I finally belonged, you know, because when I first went
to school in Massachusetts, I was the only black girl.
They would touch my hair, they would, you know, grab
my hair. They didn't they had never seen someone like me.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Did you shrink in Massachusetts?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I don't know if I shrink because I was so young.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I don't know if I knew that, if that was happening,
you know, but I still flourished, you know, I was cheerleading,
I was dancing, so my mom made sure to keep
me busy.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How do your kids deal with it now, because it's
kind of the same as when you were in Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Right, Well, it's different now.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean, you know, they would go to school with
black kids, you know there, Yeah, it's not a their
dad took my ex husband took one of my sons
to a hairdresser and he was like, only a black man's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Got my hair.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Now.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I was like, I hear you, I get it, I
get it.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
What do you want people the family members and the
friends of people who may have been abducted and you know,
have went through these experiences, they're family members and friends.
There's a level of like guilt that can happen sometimes
in those situations. What do you want them to the
message for them to take from the movie.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
The message is really is that we want them to
be seen, we want them to get help.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
And I think, you know, things happen. You can't feel guilty.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
For that, you know, I think no matter how well
you watch your kids, I mean, things are going to
happen in life, right, But it's really about this movie
is starting a conversation making sure the families that have
missing family members know that they're being seen and that.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
They should be helped, just like everybody else. And I'm
not saying we don't need to help other people.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I'm just saying I want us to have the same emergency,
the same compassion. Don't say, let's wait for two days
they'll come back, because we all know the first forty
eight hours the most crucial. Don't say all they're on drugs,
they're runaways, Like, give us the benefit of the doubt
as well.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
That's important to me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And one of the worst places that I've witnessed it
was LA.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If there's a missing person, it seems like they will
wait till the last minute. It got to the point
where my wife's friend she actually passed, but we were
calling and calling.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Please go by the house, check the house, this, that,
and the other. They were like, we're too busy, We're
too busy, We're too busy.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm sitting there like there's a possibility that you could
save somebody, right, and it was just like now we're
too busy, too busy. Well, we had to get a
family member to actually go out there and actually check.
But I mean, I'm sure you experienced that a lot
when doing that home run.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, it's opened my eyes a lot, which is why
we need to keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We need to keep talking about it and hopefully one
day we won't have to.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, Kevin Hart and I put out a project called
Finding Tamika, and it was about a younger named Tamika
Houston who went missing in the early two thousands of Spartanburg.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And you know, you learn that black girls.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And women get less media attention when abducted, had the
white victims like this is actual data staff they call.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It missing white woman syndrome. Yeah, actually, yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
There was a big publication that just did a ten
page spread on John Bennet Ramsey, who's been dead twenty years,
and we've never had anything like that.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
I don't know if you've been seeing the news amount
of Kata Scott, the young girl who was found dead
in Philly. I remember when her story first broke. It
was only I was watching it on like the local
and my grandmother called me about it, and then I
remember I started seeing other outlets pick it up slowly,
but it was just you know, just seeing when I
was watching the movie yesterday, I thought about her story
because it was it took some time for people to
(28:38):
even know what was happening with her, and they were
begging for the public to help and they needed help
to find.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Her, or even the documentary I just watched not too
long ago of Where's Amy Bradley. Amy Bradley, Yes, been
missing for what it would be now, for like twenty years,
you know, and but not no slight to her and
her family or anything like that. But it's like, we
don't get documentary. People don't look for us that long,
(29:05):
you know, if they ever do, they just move on.
So yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Thank you for giving me the time because you guys
have a great platform and we want everybody to watch
this movie and let's keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So I need to get the out of here.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Wrapped.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
This Why you didn't end up on the view, Oh
well they just went another way, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
When it's Tempted to Love coming out January thirty first, Yeah,
the reason went out. I'm like, okay, when it's waits
coming on board, Okay, Okay, I like my job.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
I know that's right. How about if I come on but.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I try to jump in my film like enough. We
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You definitely check out Taken at a truck Stop comes
on the twenty fifth of this month.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's what Saturday, Saturday Saturday. Definitely check it out. Thank
you so much, thank you. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Hold on every day a week ago.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Pick up the Breakfast Club. Y'all finish for y'all. Done,
Every day a week ago. The Breakfast Club, y'all done morning.
Everybody is d j Envy just hilarious.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Law La
Rosa is here as well. We've got a special guest
in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Vy just insulted her for that. Was so disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
It was so ridiculous and out of pocket for no
goddamn reasons.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, well, I didn't mean to offend your family.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's a mind of good. How is yours? She said?
The boys at eighteen?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I said, you know, you know I met the boys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Luckily, I'm not that sensitive.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I was talking about the boys. Okay, I believe you
time and you are fine?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Wine.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
How you feeling.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
I'm feeling really good. I'm really in a great place.
Work is you know, popping. I have this great new
movie that's coming out and I'm producing.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
It's been really, really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Do you miss Housewives at all?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So you're not coming back at all, not anytime soon? Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
No, I mean it was great.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It was great in terms of like I got a
new audience and they were really.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Wonderful things that happened because of the show. But I
think my time was up.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, so why did you leave because your time was up?
Or was it contracts?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
No, nothing like that. I just couldn't do it anymore.
It was really hurting my spirit. I just couldn't do it. Yeah,
that was really it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
People try to put you and pit you and Bose
against each other and they thought that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We don't know why.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I mean I met with Bose prior to her coming
onto the show for lunch.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We got along great. So No, it wasn't anything like that.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
It was just I couldn't physically, mentally spiritually do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm big on discernment.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How do you know, especially in this business, and something
does not agree with your spirit?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
You know what, I've been really great about choosing me
when when I'm when I'm faced with something, I've done
it with you know, relationships. I've done it in other
places where I felt like, you know what, if I
don't choose me, it will probably not work out for me.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah, So yeah, I have faith and I just knew
it was time. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Now, what is seton gonna do without you?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Girl? I don't know that's on her.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Support of way, but you now, sudden when we had
Bows up here. I'd asked her about the unfollowing on Instagram,
because that became a whole thing.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
You followed some of the ladies, all the.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Ladies when I left yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, when I left.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
And I mean people, the fans were commenting why they
thought it happened, and she said, and she thought, maybe
it was just like you know, you go through a breakup,
you just want to get rid of anything. That's exactly
the reason I just needed space. I just didn't, you know,
if you're I follow people who.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
I want to see what they're doing and I want
to support, and if you know, I don't see why
I need to follow you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I don't want to see what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
No, there's no need for it.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
There was also the thing too of when Erica Jane
and when Erica Jane and Bows were on Watch What
Happens Live and and he asks about you not returning
to the show.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Did you see that clip?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I saw the clip? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (03:13):
How did you feel about the answers?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Mean girls? M hmm, that's all.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
What was the clip? Because me and l look at each.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
Other, So basically he asked about how they felt about
Garsel and not returned to the show, and they were
silent and it was like nobody wanted to say anything.
And then when someone when Erica said something that was
like won't he do it? Like you know it was
it was like a there was a weird pause and
we were trying to figure out what that meant and
the fans hopped in the comments. When Bose was here
and sand And said that, uh, it was that there
(03:43):
was no support from her to you. She said that
that wasn't true, but did do you feel like she
supported you through that season?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
You really don't want to go back there, honestly, I'm
here from my movie. I love that I'm selling shows.
I just would like to stay on a positive note.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
One of them called you old, No, I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
People, and we were like we I think we attached
to you so much on the show because we're in
your life, and that's.
Speaker 9 (04:18):
Because we're fans of you and we miss you on
the show.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
I appreciate that I understand what you're doing, what you're
you know, I said, it's also your job that ain't me.
Speaker 10 (04:26):
I'm still attached to Fancy and I know that I
know that you probably like look I ain't fancy no
more either, but.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I loved I loved that character.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I love that job, like I had never really done
comedy and meeting Jamie and you know, us having instant chemistry,
and we thought if we did thirteen episodes we would
have been golden.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
We ended up doing a hundred episodes. Like, I mean,
it's unbelievable. I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Without someone saying fancy. He says when he's out there,
like where's fancy? So it's like people connected with that
and that it's a great thing.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
That's how it was.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
When you walked in a room.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
I don't know if you heard me, I was like,
oh shit, right, yes, when you walk on my damn.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I can't wait to housewives questions.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
He's not gonna let it go.
Speaker 10 (05:13):
But God did it and God is doing it because
you have not only one movie, you have two films,
but you're up here for taking that which also your
production company actually shot that as Yes, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Congra, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I mean, doing this franchise, Black Girl Missing franchise has
been an amazing thing.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And that's what I'm so grateful.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
For, for getting the platform to be able to put
out things that I think will help our community, help us,
And I was sick and tired of seeing the disparity
of when black and brown people go missing, that we
weren't getting the same coverage, we weren't getting the same
urgency or validation.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And we put out this.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Movie the first one, thinking that, Okay, if we can
get people to talk about it, that's a good thing.
And then the numbers went through the roof and it
was trending on Twitter at the time, and now we're.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Onto, you know, movie three. So it's been.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Really amazing and meeting amazing journalists who say, you know what,
we take accountability too because we can tell you who
the Jambonnets are, the Gabby Potito's, you know, the Natalie Holloways,
but we can't tell you the names of the black
girls because we're not featured like that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And that's what we.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Want people to do, is to know who we are
when we go missing.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Girl missing movie subtitle is very intentional, Yeah, yes, very intentional.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm sure I'm sure you did a deep dive into
a lot of the young black girls that are missing.
If you can't break it down, because you know, I'm
a father of four girls. Yes, where is the biggest
place that these girls are taken for?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And what reason is it? The mall? Is it bus stops?
Is it coming from school?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What is the biggest so I can.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Be on actually everywhere, it's actually everywhere.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
The second movie we did was called Abducted at in HBCU,
and we're really trying to teach the you know, not
only girls, but boys too, Like when you're in college, build.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
A community, you know, so that if you.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Don't show up for classes for three days, somebody's gonna
go work, so and so like it's about having a community,
but it's also ringing the bell. And my niece has
girls in college, and she was like, you're scaring me
with your movies, and I go, I'm trying to scare you,
you know, just so that we're all aware, so it
can happen anywhere.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The malls. There are guys that groom the girls.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I mean, there's all kinds of ways of these girls
going missing. I mean I was just in Vegas at
the airport and I went to the bathroom and went
the minute I closed the stall. There's a whole sign
about if you're being abducted, if you're being travel so
it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh the week I took a picture because I just
thought it was it wasn't strange. But one of them
was like, if you're with somebody who wants to offer
you money, I was like what, yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Yeah, And they also target girls who you know, sometimes
are more vulnerable and maybe there's you know, people at
home are working so she's alone.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
A lot, or there's you know, all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So I just took that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, they said you said, didn't ask you one time
when you was with your daughter, didn't ask you?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I was on the plane and uh when somebody came
on to the plane, is like if that's your daughter?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And I'm like, I hope so.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, but I'm actually glad they're asking, right, Yeah, just
because it's so prevalent when we're you know, not everyone's
aware of that. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
In this movie, you talk about community.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
In this movie, your community, your truck community shows up
for you in a big way, and it's through like
not that I don't want to give it away, but
they show for you in a big way.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
What's the importance of not finding community but knowing how
to utilize it best in a high stake situation, like
once someone goes missing and the cops won't help.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You, right, and that okay, that's one of the things
I will answer your question. But like a lot of
families have to take it upon themselves to look for
their family members because they're not getting the support they need.
So with the trucking community, by the way, there's a
there's a group of female truckers that are like badasses.
And we take it for granted. These people are on
(08:57):
the road a lot, they're alone, they're missing out on
you know, birthdays and anniversaries and what they and their
job is dangerous. So we wanted to showcase that there's
a community in every sector of life, no matter what
you do and no matter what your profession is.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
It's like, let people know, you know that you're around.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
One of the female truckers called him men they pick
up lizards.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
There there is that, Yes, yes, yes, yes, that is
the thing.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
But you know what, I learned a lot like these
truckers when they go driver.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's why like that he.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Is so okay, narrow minded.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Have you all been together across No?
Speaker 7 (09:49):
No, no, but yes, no, I was not a lot
know all the zs they.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Were before me.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Thank you, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Tell me about your husband. Know how long has he
been doing it?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
So he's been in the business for five years okay
or whatever. But like I met him three years ago,
so I was he was like two years into it
when I met him, and yeah, you know, we had
a couple of little lot of Liszt's hand there, you know,
but when I came in, they laughed.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Okay, yeah, just one.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
To know what female truck drivers called the men that
they pick up, that's all.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I don't know if they have a name for him.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I'm pretty sure she didn't do that research to do
this movie.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
That's not it.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Why how do you deal with him being on the road.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
I'm still trying to deal with it, okay, you know
because the schedule, with my schedule and his schedule, we
we're trying to figure out like how.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We can balance and then we have a one year old.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Oh so we're still trying to balance that and still
trying to be full time lovers.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
That's very hard, very hard.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You should's Mexicans, so you know what everything going on
in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Face It's like, why did I come this morning?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Are you talking about us? Yes, that's scary for everybody.
It's scary for everyone.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Is not really from ice R.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
The profile.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It's really sad. Yeah, it's a horrible place to be.
But that's another topic.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Why was it important to add the element of dealing
with an autistic family member?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
We really wanted to.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
There's so much misconceptions about autism and what that looks
like and what that is, and obviously there's different you know,
there's different stages of autism. So we really wanted to
showcase a character that is functioning. But that doesn't mean
that just because she has autism that she's irresponsible. And
(11:40):
but what happened was because she's autistic, she's dealing with
somebody online and you know, we all share too much,
and she shared too much and so then she gets
taken kidnapped.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
So yeah, it was first and then you are the
cool badass. Okay, you know what was Okay? So this
is the first time I've ever seen.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
A role like this.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
I've never played a role like this, so preparing for
something so different, yeah you are you know what was
that preparation? It was really really fun because we got
to talk to a couple of professional female truck drivers
and what she taught us was really great. And one
of the actress who plays my my sister comes from
(12:24):
a trucking community too. But it was just all about
like safety and how to drive and how to get
in and out of the truck, which, by the way.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
The trucks are so tall. By the end of shooting,
the back of my thighs were kneeling just from jumping
up and down.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
But it was just a fun role because it was
like something different from me.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Even the fighting choreography, even listen, I loved it.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Okay, that was good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
How does this affect you as a parent as a
mom now because you have young men, Yeah, that out
and about in college, in school, dating, How.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Does that af It affects me? And I'm much more aware.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
But I've always had conversations with my kids. One because
I have black kids, even those sometimes they look like
they could be you know, But I've always talked to
my kids, especially Oliver, about being respectful if you're the cops.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Come to you, or just being out in the world.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
You know, how to navigate being a black young man
and being respectful and because people will have misconceptions of you,
just because I remember I was in a supermarket with
my son, Oliver, and he went to go get something
and I was in another lane, and as he's coming around,
I was at the end of the aisle, and so
in between us was this older white woman and the
(13:36):
minute she saw Oliver, she clutched her purse and she
got You could tell she got tense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And I thought to myself, if anything happened.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
To you, he would be the first one to come
and help, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
But it's just the It's just how we're seeing sometimes,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How do I think we should have told people when
they do that, be like, I don't want it this fake?
Speaker 10 (14:02):
But how did he feel about that? Did he share
it with you? How he felt about that?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Or did he Yeah, he just kind of like brushed
it off, like, you know, I don't even know if
he realized it. But I saw it because I saw
him coming, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Why was it important for you guys to include the
domestic violence element in the movie in align with the
trucking world? Was there like research that you saw that
parallel to time?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah? No, not at all.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
I think the writers just you know, got you wanted
to put that in. There wasn't any It wasn't intentional
in terms of like we had to do that. I
think it was just to show like where Kai came
from and why she was so connected to her niece
because she didn't have children of her own, and so
that was really a way of setting that up.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
And I like the way, like as the big sister,
it's like the world is on your shoulders, but yeah,
you know what I mean, but you're handling it. And
then when you reveal certain things about yourself in the movie,
it shows you as human too.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Oh thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I mean I love the fact that we had like
that sister complicated complex relationship. We loved each other, but
there was still friction like in real life. And then
I also loved my relationship with my niece too. I
think there's a sweet side of how she looked up
to her and their bond, which I thought, you know,
was nice.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
When you and the producers get around, y'all, E was say, man,
we're tackling a lot of themes, right you. Yeah, pratic violence, stalking,
and the lack of honorability in black women, like do
you ever think yourself, Okay, maybe this film that too
many nuanced.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
No, we didn't think of like because I think life
is complex.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I think I don't think everything is just streamline and
everything's perfect. So in telling this story, we felt like
that was okay and it worked without being heavy handed
or you know, hitting.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You over the head. It just it felt like it
it could be real. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
What does it mean to you to have a legacy
network like Lifetime amplify these black stories?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, No, it means everything. I mean when we brought
them the first Black girl missing, they.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Got it right away.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
They were like, how soon can we can we show
this and can we you know, get behind it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
It was really great because a lot.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Of times people don't want to deal with the heavy stuff,
you know, but obviously Lifetime deals with, you know a
lot of things. But they they understood the assignment and
I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And now we're on movie three, so it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Do you like do you enjoy the acting part? Do
you enjoy reality part? Do you enjoy the EP part?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
My favorite is being a talk show host because I
did the real for I did the reel and before
the reel, I was up for the view and I
did Hollywood Today Live. I mean, that's my that's my wheelhouse.
But I love I mean, I'm a Sagittarius.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We get bored easy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So I'm getting up and doing the same thing every
day and all that every day that that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Like doing different things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I enjoyed the reality for EVERYBODJ.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'm sorry that's happening.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
It looks so good. You're setting things off.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I don't know what to make you feel good. I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But anyways, I like doing.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I like doing, challenging myself and doing all kinds of things.
But you know, producing now I'm really enjoying and going
into a room and pitching to networks.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I mean, it's a new side of me that if
somebody told me when I first started this industry that
I would be doing that, I'd be like, there's no way,
But yeah, I really enjoy it. Yeah, because I didn't
see that because we weren't really allowed back then. If
you were an actor, you were in that lane, you know,
and things are different now, so it's been really cool
to just you know, so.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Even when you saw black producers, black writers, black directors
back then, you never thought it was no wow, No.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I never I mean I thought, Okay, I'm acting and
I'll continue doing that. But I didn't see another road
after that. In terms of producing. I don't want to direct,
that's not my thing, but producing I really like.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Do you deal with an element of like imposter syndrome
sometimes when you're walking into those drums because you never
kind of saw it for you.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I just said that to a girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
You know, I walk into like, you know, going into
Netflix and Hulu and ABC and pitching shows, and I
walk it out and I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Like, who the fuck do I think?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I guess right?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
But I think sometimes you like, I couldn't. I couldn't
have dreamt this big, you know, coming from Haiti, not
knowing the language, you know, learning English, watching Sesame Street, Like,
I didn't know that all these things were possible.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
So I think that's the beauty of it is. Uh
Now I'm like, Wow, that's incredible. And my kids can
see that. You know, I can be a mom, but
I can also be all.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
These other things too, Yeah, which I think it's important
for your kids to see absolutely what was it stressful
for you at any moment because you didn't only start
in the movie, so you had learn lines and everything,
but like you produced it and then your production company
had so you had to wear so many different heads.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, for sure. I mean we tried to make all.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
The important decisions obviously before we started production, and then
once I was on set, I was strictly an actor
because that was important for me to just stay there.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, you know, especially since it's a role that I
haven't done before. But but yeah, it's been really fun.
It's been really kind of cool.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Are you casting for any upcoming projects? Do you want
to absolutely? I want great absolutely to tell you look
like and that's about Taylor to a girl.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
And my father and your father.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That's good, he is the father.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, but I would love to audition.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I love that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What's your favorite form of storyteller?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Out of all out of the reality, I mean, out
of the talk shows, reality TV, the.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Movies, my favorite. I mean, I think again it goes
back to, you know, hosting and talking to people because
I love, I'm curious about people, and so that's I
guess my top thing. But after that, I you know acting.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Also, Yeah, do you feel pressure to as a producer
that one day have to tell a story from Haiti?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
You know, I've wanted to. I've done.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
My first producing job was a short that I did
about sex trafficking, and it wasn't so much about Haiti,
but we shot part of it in Haiti. And I
would love to. I would really love to. I feel
like we can't get a break.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So much rich history in that country, a lot of misconceptions, so.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Much, so much.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I mean, I feel like.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
It's been decades centuries since we've had hardship, and every
time we think we're gonna get to a better place,
we're knocked down.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So it's it's really discouraging and hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I didn't know you could speak English when no.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I couldn't speak a lick ofst I moved in January,
didn't speak a word of English, never seen white people,
and we moved to Massachusetts in January.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You are starting, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
So I watched, Yeah, I watched Sesame Street and learned
a apple b banana and yeah, I was seven.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
When did you discover the arts? And we're processing?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
You know, I always wanted I've always like would put
on little shows for my family.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
So I always had it in me.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, but I didn't discover I was discovered as a model.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
When I was seventeen.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
We moved to Miami because my mom couldn't take the
weather anymore in Boston. So I a friend of mine said,
do you want to be an extra in a commercial?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
And I was like, what's an extra? And he goes
it pays seventy five dollars a day for two days.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I was like, count me in. That was like big
money back then. And I was in this commercial by
the second day. There was a black, pretty black girl
that was a principal talent, and I went up to
her and I go, how do I do what you're doing? Like,
I don't want to be an extra? How do I
do that? She wasn't having it, so I found out
she was with this agency in Fort Lauderdale. I asked
my mom to borrow her car. I drove up to
(22:01):
Fort Lauderdale. I didn't have pictures, I didn't have an appointment.
I didn't know anything, but I thought somebody's gonna tell
me something. So I'm in Fort Lauderdale. I stop at
a red light. I poked my head out to chet
check my makeup in the mirror. So I do that,
and then I'm reaching for my lip gloss in my
bag on the passenger seat and a hand.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Comes in the car and scares a shit out of me.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
And it was the woman behind me. She got out
of her car at the red light. She gives me
a card and she goes, you should be a model.
And it was the agency I was going to without
an appointment, without oh wow, okay, look at you couldn't
have scripted it.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
So now I show up and I got a car.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And so now I'm like and they tested me, they
got pictures. I did test shoots with photographers, and about
nine months later Iileen Ford of the Ford Modeling Agency
was scouting all over the country and they asked ten
of us to come and meet with her. And I
met with Eileen Ford and she said, you should come
to New York.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
And I moved to New York at seventeen.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The models apartment was full, so I lived with Eileen
Ford and her husband Jerry on seventy first in Madison.
Didn't know anything, And that's how my modeling career started.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
And how crazy you become fancy and Jane faction.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Well, I started.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I moved to LA by then, and they were auditioning
girls and every time I had a modeling gig that
I had to do, so I kept on canceling the
audition and finally they were like, you've got to come in.
So I go in. And at the time that was
when the R. Kelly Downlow video was out right with
(23:41):
mister Biggs and myself. Yeah, and Jamie came up to me. Well,
I was waiting in the lobby. He goes, you know
how much I requested that video because that's when you
had the request videos.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And so I went in.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
We read and I thought, you know, there were other
girls that were by far know acting, had more acting
ability than me, and.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So I left thinking, Okay, at least I did it.
And then when I got the job, I was like, wow, yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
And we hit it off and we've been friends ever since.
I was at Karen's wedding recently.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And he's a good man.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
So even big then, right, you don't never have like
a little crush on Jamie.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Oh yeah, we both had a crush on each other,
but we said we weren't going to do anything, and
I got engaged two weeks before we wrapped, and he goes,
you couldn't wait.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I did ask that Chi would question.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
I don't know, because chemistry was yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I want to talk about the power community real quick,
because you said you moved from Massachusetts to Miami.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I didn't move into Miami.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And being around more people that look like you, and
I'm sure more Haitians give you give you a confidence book.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It was everything.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
It was everything because one my mom wanted to be
closer to Haiti so she could visit family. But going
to school with kids that had hair like me, that
look like me, I mean, it just changed everything. But
when I first went to school, they were like, oh,
she thinks she's white.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But that's because I.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Learned English, you know, in Massachusetts. Right, So, but it
was everything. It changed, It changed everything. I felt like
I finally belonged, you know, because when I first went
to school in Massachusetts, I was the only black girl.
They would touch my hair, they would, you know, grab
my hair. They didn't they had never seen someone like me.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Did you shrink in Massachusetts?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I don't know if I shrink because I was so young.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I don't know if I knew that, if that was happening,
you know, but I still flourished, you know, I was cheerleading,
I was dancing, so my mom made sure to keep
me busy.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How do your kids deal with it now, because it's
kind of the same as when you were in Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Right, Well, it's different now.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean, you know, they would go to school with
black kids, you know there, Yeah, it's not a their
dad took my ex husband took one of my sons
to a hairdresser and he was like, only a black man's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Got my hair.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Now.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I was like, I hear you, I get it, I
get it.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
What do you want people the family members and the
friends of people who may have been abducted and you know,
have went through these experiences, they're family members and friends.
There's a level of like guilt that can happen sometimes
in those situations. What do you want them to the
message for them to take from the movie.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
The message is really is that we want them to
be seen, we want them to get help.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
And I think, you know, things happen. You can't feel guilty.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
For that, you know, I think no matter how well
you watch your kids, I mean, things are going to
happen in life, right, But it's really about this movie
is starting a conversation making sure the families that have
missing family members know that they're being seen and that.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
They should be helped, just like everybody else. And I'm
not saying we don't need to help other people.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I'm just saying I want us to have the same emergency,
the same compassion. Don't say, let's wait for two days
they'll come back, because we all know the first forty
eight hours the most crucial. Don't say all they're on drugs,
they're runaways, Like, give us the benefit of the doubt
as well.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
That's important to me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And one of the worst places that I've witnessed it
was LA.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If there's a missing person, it seems like they will
wait till the last minute. It got to the point
where my wife's friend she actually passed, but we were
calling and calling.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Please go by the house, check the house, this, that,
and the other. They were like, we're too busy, We're
too busy, We're too busy.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I'm sitting there like there's a possibility that you could
save somebody, right, and it was just like now we're
too busy, too busy. Well, we had to get a
family member to actually go out there and actually check.
But I mean, I'm sure you experienced that a lot
when doing that home run.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, it's opened my eyes a lot, which is why
we need to keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We need to keep talking about it and hopefully one
day we won't have to.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, Kevin Hart and I put out a project called
Finding Tamika, and it was about a younger named Tamika
Houston who went missing in the early two thousands of Spartanburg.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And you know, you learn that black girls.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And women get less media attention when abducted, had the
white victims like this is actual data staff they call.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It missing white woman syndrome. Yeah, actually, yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
There was a big publication that just did a ten
page spread on John Bennet Ramsey, who's been dead twenty years,
and we've never had anything like that.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
I don't know if you've been seeing the news amount
of Kata Scott, the young girl who was found dead
in Philly. I remember when her story first broke. It
was only I was watching it on like the local
and my grandmother called me about it, and then I
remember I started seeing other outlets pick it up slowly,
but it was just you know, just seeing when I
was watching the movie yesterday, I thought about her story
because it was it took some time for people to
(28:38):
even know what was happening with her, and they were
begging for the public to help and they needed help
to find.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Her, or even the documentary I just watched not too
long ago of Where's Amy Bradley. Amy Bradley, Yes, been
missing for what it would be now, for like twenty years,
you know, and but not no slight to her and
her family or anything like that. But it's like, we
don't get documentary. People don't look for us that long,
(29:05):
you know, if they ever do, they just move on.
So yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Thank you for giving me the time because you guys
have a great platform and we want everybody to watch
this movie and let's keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So I need to get the out of here.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Wrapped.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
This Why you didn't end up on the view, Oh
well they just went another way, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
When it's Tempted to Love coming out January thirty first, Yeah,
the reason went out. I'm like, okay, when it's waits
coming on board, Okay, Okay, I like my job.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
I know that's right. How about if I come on but.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I try to jump in my film like enough. We
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You definitely check out Taken at a truck Stop comes
on the twenty fifth of this month.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's what Saturday, Saturday Saturday. Definitely check it out. Thank
you so much, thank you. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Hold on every day a week ago.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
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