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October 27, 2025 107 mins

Today on The Breakfast Club, 112, Case, and Total talk about the 90s R&B generation, Biggie’s studio magic, and the power of cool vulnerability. Plus, author Ryan Holiday joins us to explain why 'Wisdom Takes Work,' rounding out his Virtue book series. And Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a parent who threatened an elementary school after their child was denied snack time, saying ‘I’ll air this place out.’ Listen for more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yo yo yo yo.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Just hilarious.

Speaker 4 (00:08):
Good morning, Charlamagne God, Peace to the planet is Monday.

Speaker 5 (00:13):
Good morning, how y'all there lot now I feel blessed,
Black and Holly favorite, happy to be here another day
to serve our beautiful listeners.

Speaker 6 (00:19):
Good morning man. How is everybody's weekend?

Speaker 7 (00:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
How's your weekend?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Just what you do?

Speaker 8 (00:23):
It was lit.

Speaker 9 (00:23):
I was out in Philly, the beautiful city of Philadelphia.
I had a private dinner to go to. It was amazing.
Shout out to the W in Philly. I never stayed
at the W in Philly, but it is lit. It
is nice. Me and my husband was shopping and everything,
but the hospitality shown to us at the W was amazing.
So shout out to Tony at the W. He's very cool.

(00:45):
I like him. And then what else do you do?

Speaker 6 (00:48):
What else to do?

Speaker 9 (00:49):
But now that's all right? That's pretty much it. Yeah, Philly, Philly,
because I could, I could spend all morning talking about
my weekend in Philly.

Speaker 10 (00:54):
Yo.

Speaker 9 (00:54):
Philly is lit yo, I love it, Yes.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Even though they beat my giants, but we expected Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:00):
I am, I wasn't even focused on the football and everything. Yeah,
they had a home game yesterday. Everybody, of course Philly
was bigging up Philly, you know what I mean, But
it was it was crazy getting out of Philly yesterday though,
because of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
So well.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Salutes everybody that had homecoming this past week. In Hampton
University's homecoming, I was there Friday. I know Howard had
a homecoming. I know Norfolk State had a homecoming. I
think Virginia State had a homecoming. But it was dope.
I ran into I seen Wycliffe. Wycliff performed, I've seen
why A performed. Zat band Computer to Love they performed.

(01:33):
I've seen Gucci too. Gucci killed Hampton University when I
killed me and Gucci chopped it up for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Should talk about how the South Carolina State Bulldogs killed
the Norfolk State Spartans fifty one to twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
That's what you should talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Okay, how about you talking about that Norfolk's not my school, sir,
So you had on.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
The jersey last week.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
I was nobody should be happy when DJ Envy comes
today school. This man had on a Norfolk State Jersey
this week repping hard I was.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I was the red. I was repping Michael Vick, Michael
Vickers from the seventy five seventies. A black coach, uh
doing coaching, got.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
A black coach to a black coach. And that's what's
the name name, what's the black coach name? That's Gladda's date.
Hold on me, look up, got a Google. I don't
want to mispronounce it.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
That is Jerseys.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
So I be.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
On tennis Barry Tennis. Yea, I thought it just say
your niece. That's why I'm glad. I looked it up.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Tennis Barry Well, salute to the Salute to them. So uh,
I see everybody in uh Hampton University. And I went
over to Norfolk because Lauren was actually hosting at Norfolk,
so I went over there with her and she had
an event with Lloyd. I seen Lloyd, and you know,
it's just great seeing a lot of these artists with catalogs.
So is you forget how many records Lloyd had. Lloyd
performed like eight nine records and ain't all smashse I

(02:48):
forgot all about him, so of course, salute to Lloyd.
And then I went to my island of Dominica, where
my grandfather is from where I'm island. Yeah, it is this.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
It made me film.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's Dominica, and everybody who I ran into was like,
please tell Charlemagne, Dominican Republic is not the same as Dominica.
So we were at the Dominiko Island, which is like
the nature island, so it's really untouched. So it's just
beautiful as it's hiking, it's it's natural spas, it's all
types of things. But this weekend it was nothing but

(03:25):
Creole festival and reggae, Soca and Calypso. So they start partying.
They start performance at six and they end at eight
a m. And then eight am everybody goes to the
city and then they party to like two three, then
they sleep and they do it again for three things straight.
That's why I still got this outfit on because I
just left the venue where everybody was performing, and everybody's

(03:46):
there from.

Speaker 11 (03:46):
Vibes Cartel to Spote t Y Savage or everybody was there.
So I had a great, great time into.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
A beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful island and I was enjoying myself.
So I'm love it. So I had a great weekend.
I ain't go front.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I had an amazing weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
This is fun. This was funn What about you, Sholman,
I seen you. Was at South Carolina.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah, I was home, you know, University of South Carolina's
home coming. That's my wife's alma matera. And then Friday,
we had a great conversation with the icon living Don
Staley as well as the other icon living Asia Wilson.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
It was you know, I've done a lot of interviews
in my life, you know, with a lot of great people,
you know, but you know, interviewing Don Staley and Asia
Wilson in the arena that they made famous, the Colonial
Life Arena, and just thinking to myself, like that both
of these women got statues a block apart in the
city of Columbia, South Carolina. That was an incredible interview.
And then we got our ass busted Saturday versus Alabama.

Speaker 12 (04:41):
She did.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
But it's all right, all right, Well let's get to
show you know, twenty one Savages. Mothers from Dominica.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
She was from Island.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, she's from Dominica and she moved to London when
he was and had him.

Speaker 9 (04:55):
Okay, it was from the UK.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
But okay, she's from here. Actually yeah, because everybody was
telling me. They was like, you know, twenty one Savage
has routs head and I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 9 (05:01):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It was like, no, his mother was anxious mothers from you.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
So I figure I learned that this weekend too.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Let's get the show crowd. It's an amazing time. The resort,
the hotel is just they showed me so much love.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
But today on the show, one twelve case in total
will be joining us the Room one twelve tour. They're
celebrating thirty years of one twelve's music. They're going on
the road. We're gonna chop it up with them, and
we got front page news when we come back.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 9 (05:23):
And it's Mariotstis's birthday. I thought they was gonna start
with the Burnham Blue because it's Shorty birthday today.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Good morning, everybody is DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Page news set off quickly.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
In sports, Major League Baseball, the World Series is going down.
If you don't know the Dodgers versus the Blue Jays.
The series is tied one one. Now NFL a lot
to go through someone go through them fast. The Ravens
beat the Bears, Bills beat the Panthers, Patriots beat the Browns,
Buccaneers beat the Saints, the Broncos beat the Cowboys, Packers
beat the Steelers, Coach beat the Titans, Eagles beat the Giants,
the Texans beat the forty nine Ers, and the Jets. Finally,

(06:00):
on one of our producers, he finally has his Jets
jersey he had. He bought the jersey eight weeks ago.
He finally got a chance to wear him as he
was respected that one in seven now and then Monday
Night Football.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Though, But I don't respect the fact that you're just
putting on your Jets jersey this today right supposed to
rep when they had a butthole, all right, when.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
They was owen, when they was owing whatever you should
have been repping.

Speaker 13 (06:20):
I can't wear it after a loss. Yeah, that's what
you're supposed to with. It might be my only chance
of wearing a jersey.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
That's gonna be the only change.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
And they won by luck. And in Monday Night Football,
the Commands take on the Chiefs at eight fifteen.

Speaker 14 (06:32):
What's up, Mimi, Good morning, Mva Josh Charlamage, how y'all
doing this morning?

Speaker 15 (06:37):
Good morning?

Speaker 14 (06:38):
All right, Well, we start this morning on day twenty
seven of the government shut down, and the impact is
being felt just about everywhere, from the airports to the
kitchen tables. Now, the FAA they issued a ground stop
at Lax Sunday morning because of staffing shortages, forcing planes
headed for Los Angeles to sit on the tarmac for
nearly two hours.

Speaker 16 (06:59):
Now.

Speaker 14 (06:59):
Flights into Newark, Chicago, and Southwest Florida were also delayed,
part of a ripple effect spreading across the country. At
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. He warned this weekend on Fox
News that flight disruptions will likely get worse, especially as
tomorrow marks the first full week without pay for air
traffic controllers still working throughout the shutdown.

Speaker 15 (07:21):
Let's listen to that.

Speaker 17 (07:23):
Yeah, So they got their notice on Thursday and Friday,
they get a notice of what they're going to be
paid on Tuesday, and they got a big fat zero
no paycheck is coming on Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
And so I've been out.

Speaker 17 (07:33):
Talking to our air traffic controllers and you can see
the stress These are people that oftentimes live paycheck to paycheck.
They're concerned about gas in the car, they're concerned about
childcare and mortgages, and so I'm seeing the stress come
for the controllers. Just yesterday, Marie, we had twenty two
staffing triggers. That's one of the highest that we've seen

(07:54):
in the system since the shutdown began. And that's a
sign that the controllers are wearing thin. And again they're
taking second jobs. They're out there looking can I drive over,
can I find another source of income?

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Yeah, people don't realize how ugly it's about to be.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Man, you saw this weekend to the USDA said they
can't use emergency funds for food stamps, so it can't
use contingency funds to pay for food stamps during the
government shutdown, and states won't be reimbirthed at they cover the.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Expenses on their own. So it's about to be ugly.

Speaker 18 (08:25):
Yes, it is absolutely.

Speaker 14 (08:27):
And on top of that, the FAA they're already short
three thousand air traffic controllers and many that are on
the job without pay are already working mandatory over time
with six days a week without pay. And as you mentioned, Charlemagne.
It is not just limited to the airports. The Department
of Agriculture, they did just post yesterday that SNAP benefits
will stop November first, and that's the program that helps

(08:48):
about one in eight Americans put food on the table. So,
you know, the White House, the White House Democrats Republicans
are pointing fingers at each other.

Speaker 15 (08:57):
Meanwhile the American people are so the only day I can.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Tell y'all, man, I might ambassador at the food Bank
in Harlem. You know, I do work with the Hope
Center in Charleston, South Carolina as well. Find a food
bank in your local neighborhood, and you know, if you've
got a couple of extra dollars to donate to them,
do it because a lot of these people who rely
on snapping these other benefits, they're gonna go hungry and
they're gonna be relying on food banks, you know, so

(09:23):
please please donate to your local food bank.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, it's gonna be nasty, and the trickle effect is
really gonna hurt not just you know, people eating, but
people's businesses as well.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Like you think about it.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Even we were at homecoming this weekend and I were
talking to people and it was like they might not
be able to afford to go back to school because
a lot of the you know, the military is what
you know, Hampton is based off of it's military, and
it was like a lot of people won't be able
to do a lot of things. It's it's gonna be
nasty man.

Speaker 15 (09:47):
Yeah, definitely a ripple effect, all right.

Speaker 14 (09:50):
And lastly, the Trump administration, they are sending election officials
to monitor polling sites in California and New Jersey that's
coming up ahead of the November fourth special election. Now
that usual, that oversight isn't unusual, but this time is
drawing attention because of what's on the ballot, Proposition fifty
in California. That's the state's redistricting measure that could shift
political power in Congress. Democrats call it a political intimidation

(10:14):
tactic meant to discourage turnout. But Republicans they're saying, nope,
it's just to monitor what's going on for transparency and
ballot security. But we will see either way. A federal
elections being monitored. Showing up at local polls is the
latest reminder just how electrically electrically charged this election season

(10:34):
is becoming. So we will continue to watch that and
a familiar change is coming back around, coming up at seven,
and not everyone is a fan will tell you what
it is and why.

Speaker 15 (10:44):
Some people say it is time for it.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
To go all right, and everybody else Get it off
your chest eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one.
How is your weekend?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
What did you do?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Let's discuss Get it off your chest.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club, Wake up, wake up way.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
People.

Speaker 19 (11:03):
If you're trying to get it off your chest, your
man or blessed, we want to hear from you on
the break of the bloss Hello, who's this?

Speaker 20 (11:12):
Yeah, what's going on? But if your boy ding Joe,
what's going on?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
He's dingo?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
What's up Dingle?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Where you've been, brother?

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (11:19):
Man, just been trying to live life, brother, you know,
just trying to maintain and hold down before and trying
to just survive. Man, with this government not helping nobody out,
so I gotta make it do.

Speaker 19 (11:28):
On my own. But it's been good though.

Speaker 20 (11:30):
Man, I'm blessed.

Speaker 21 (11:31):
Can't complain, you know, I'm happy, I'm I'm blessed, I'm
I'm healthy. So really everything has been great, man. So
just wanted to check out. I'm always listening, so you know,
I just wanted to call in and say, what's up
to my people. Man, it's been a minute. Hope you
enjoyed your trip then?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, man, I'm still here now. I come back tomorrow,
but yeah, I definitely enjoy it. I'm enjoying every happy,
this weather in this this this nature island.

Speaker 20 (11:54):
That's what's up.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's what's up.

Speaker 20 (11:55):
Charlomagne, my boy, how.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
You doing, man? I'm blessed black and Holly faverit. How
you doing?

Speaker 16 (11:59):
King?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Man?

Speaker 21 (12:01):
I can't even, Like I said, I can't complain, brother,
I'm just happy I'm still out here making it now.
The reason why I wanted to call here because just hilarious,
just hilarious.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You're here right, Oh my god.

Speaker 20 (12:11):
Ye, it's crazy this past week just you have been
doing so great.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
We're coming into.

Speaker 20 (12:20):
Work on top. Oh my god, I have been clocking it.

Speaker 19 (12:24):
You have been here every day all time.

Speaker 20 (12:26):
I was so shocked.

Speaker 21 (12:27):
I'm like, dang, that's okay work, yeah, girl, because you
don't have.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
To be there.

Speaker 20 (12:33):
I love you, man, but.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Shut up.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
But hey, I'm glad.

Speaker 21 (12:40):
Y'are Here's love when y'all here but I just wanted
to say that je.

Speaker 20 (12:44):
I'm proud of you girl.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Keep colling the work on time.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I love y'all.

Speaker 20 (12:48):
Shout out to.

Speaker 21 (12:49):
You, know all of y'all, everybody listeners and you just
want to spress some well this morning, man, y'all be blessed.

Speaker 9 (12:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five
one five one. If you need to hit us up now,
it's the breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (13:06):
Bad This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I hate the way you walk, the way you talk,
I hate the way you everything.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
We need best call up eight hundred.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
I'm what the coach of filing, Hey, who's this?

Speaker 20 (13:23):
This is?

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Jall called them Malona, Hey, what's your chest?

Speaker 22 (13:27):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
So I worked Florida FAA, and I'm constantly hearing about
how the aircraft and controllers are working without pay. I
need our Secretary Sean Duffy to come and talk through
the FASS and talk to those who are working in
the regional offices because we are working without pay. We
are working to keep them now safe and efficient. So

(13:49):
without the air traffic controllers, there's no aircraftic control powers
and we build those so our men are our men
and women are out in the field going from state
to state, puts the airport radar site to radar sides,
working to make sure that the airspace is saying, we
are working without pay. We are working without any news

(14:09):
or any hope of how we're paying our rent, mortgaging
our children's tuition. Like, so, it's not just the airtraffic controllers,
it's everybody in the FAA who is forced to work
without pay in the conditions.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
You do know, they know that, right, like, they'll work
without it.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
They know we're working without pay. But we're always hearing is.

Speaker 22 (14:33):
It's not the controllers, So it's making us think that
making us feel that it's only one set of people
that they're working they're thinking about. So I didn't need
them to come and talk to those who are working
in these in these in the buildings and the offices
and just just do a temperature check.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
I just don't want you to ever think that they
are not aware that they're not paying, y'all.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
They are fully aware that they're not paying.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, it's sad, man, it's it's so Damn mortgage, is
your car notice, it's electric bill, is it's gas bill,
is it's your kids tuition?

Speaker 6 (15:09):
And it's the holidays.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
That's what That's what's going to That's what's going to
complicate all of this even more. The fact that you know,
people got to think about, damn, is there gonna be
no holiday season.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
I'm not gonna be able to buy my.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Kids nothing lift saying we took a temperature chest in
the office and in a few stings with our coworkers,
we're not even thinking about thems giving a Christmas. A
lot of us already had conversations with our kids and
we told them, like, listen, this is't it ain't gonna
be no Christmas this year. Like I already canceled my
given plans because it's like it's no sight.

Speaker 22 (15:40):
You can't even see what you're about to do. So
all of that is canceled. Like we're not even thinking
about that right now.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's a sad part, but you know, it is what
it is.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
That's why I'm doubling, tripling up on everything I already
usually do you know what I mean, resources to the
food banks. You know, the Turkey Drive's got to be
you know two and two and three times they've been
in previous years. Like, you know, whatever you've been doing
for your community, especially in regards and stuff like that,
you really got to triple up if you got to meet.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
And it's so crazy because when people do the turkey drives, right,
sometimes I don't want to say it gets boring.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But people like, oh, you're doing a turkey drive.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
But yeah, you see how much a turkey drive will help?
You see how much having those foods and those vegetables
will help, like, because people need to eat.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Shut your doing nothing ass up? How about that? How
about you that don't never do nothing for your people?
Shut the hell up? All right?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Absolutely? Hello, who's this.

Speaker 20 (16:29):
And what's going on? It was up sear Man was
more than just going this rig.

Speaker 23 (16:34):
I'm glad man.

Speaker 19 (16:36):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's good to seeing you.

Speaker 23 (16:38):
And then and touches your Caribbean roots. There's a lot
of people in a hip hop game that have Permian roots.
And you know, we've we've contributed.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
A lot to hip hop.

Speaker 23 (16:48):
But I want to talk about this one and that
you know, Jamaica's about to get hit by Hurricane Melissa. Yeah, man,
and I got a lot of family of friends there,
and this thing is going to be the.

Speaker 20 (16:56):
Biggest storm they've ever experienced.

Speaker 23 (16:58):
That's why everybody to send some i'm a light out
there because Jamaica and the Caribbean.

Speaker 20 (17:03):
Contributed so much.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
The hip hop over there.

Speaker 23 (17:05):
Is I mean the notorious Bis, you know, Jamaican Roots,
Foxy Brown, Nicki Minaj, must Rhymes and.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean DJ Heavy.

Speaker 20 (17:13):
So everybody's been love on light out Jamaica because.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
They need it right now, right now, Jamaica, Dominica. But
he meant the Caribbean islands.

Speaker 23 (17:21):
I mean, I mean Caribbean roots, you know, Caribbean roud.

Speaker 20 (17:23):
Yeah, and I mean I want everybody to thank them
love of light out there right now because they're gonna
need it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah, Hurricane category five right now.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, they're saying Jamaica's might be unrecognizable after this hurricane hit.
So yes, absolutely, pray for Jamaica, Pray for Cuba, Pray
for Haiti, Dominican Republic, Pray for all those places because
it's it could get nasty.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Man, So sad, get it off your chest.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Eight undred five eighty five, one oh five one. If
you need the vent, you can hit us up now.
We got Lauren la Rosa, Lauren, what up?

Speaker 21 (17:51):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (17:51):
Good morning, and hey Envy.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Hey guys.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
There was one of us that missed their flight because
they drank too much. Guess which one it was.

Speaker 18 (17:57):
First of all, I made it to where I needed
to go.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
One of us, mister fla, I was down.

Speaker 24 (18:03):
I made the next flight and I made it to
where I needed to go. God is good morning everybody
that much? No, it was just my flight was at
six am, and I didn't leave the party at Norfolk
until like three.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
We were banging on her doors.

Speaker 25 (18:15):
I should have went right to the airport.

Speaker 18 (18:18):
I didn't think about that.

Speaker 24 (18:19):
I literally should have went right to the airport The
next day, like, yo, we next time, we're going straight
to the airport.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I love the club. At twelve, she left at three.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
One thing that we never did was missing flight.

Speaker 26 (18:30):
Okay, yeah, I was.

Speaker 18 (18:32):
That was a rookie mistake.

Speaker 16 (18:33):
Yo.

Speaker 18 (18:33):
I was on that flight so upset. But I made
it and everything was fine. I flew in. I went
from Norfolk to Philly on Saturday, and I did it
Penn at my.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Church with uh your church drunk?

Speaker 9 (18:45):
No, I was not drunk.

Speaker 18 (18:46):
I was very well fed and I was well rested
and I was good. But yeah, so I made it.
Thank you for trying to wake me up, though it
didn't work.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
We tried, all right.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
We got the ladies coming up.

Speaker 24 (18:55):
What we're talking about, we do speaking of things. Over
the weekend, Versus went down No Limit cash Money. There
is a lot to talk about the returner Versus.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
All right, we'll get to that next. It's the breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Good morning, the breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Lauren becoming a straight back.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
She gets them to somebody that knows somebody detail.

Speaker 18 (19:16):
I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
She'd be having the latest on you sound the things
the latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Sometimes you have sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have
a little bit of everything on the breakfast club talking
to me.

Speaker 24 (19:32):
So Versus went down in Vegas over the weekend. There
are reports that there were over thirty thousand people in
attendance for the complete complex con which is where Versus
went down at and Versus happened between cash Money and
No Limit. This was the returner Versus now in attendance
for cash Money. And if there's any names I missed,
y'all saw somebody I ain't see call them out because
there's a lot of people. So Berdman, many Fresh, juvenile, BG,

(19:56):
Tamar Braxton, No Turk and no Little Wayne.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
Said she was.

Speaker 20 (20:04):
There.

Speaker 18 (20:04):
She was on the stage and she was helping out hermit.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Okay, that's crazy, No you did.

Speaker 18 (20:12):
I said, No, Turk wasn't there. I was saying people
never there.

Speaker 25 (20:15):
Before her, Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Okay.

Speaker 24 (20:17):
And then in attendance for No Limit you had Master
p soaked the Shaka, uh Mia X and Kelly Price,
Chopper and Mac anybody else was on the she was
Kelly Price is there with me holding her down. Anybody
you saw that I did not see. You're welcome to men.
There was a lot of people.

Speaker 9 (20:37):
Romeo was there. Yes, was friends.

Speaker 18 (20:40):
I'm sorry from here, Yes, original Little Soldier, Yeah Snoop.

Speaker 24 (20:43):
Dogg popped out with No Limit as well, surprise the
crowd now kicking off the verses. Cash Money kicked it
off with four hundred degrees. I say, listen Jesus and
straight off the gate and then at you and then
No Limit returned their first song with no noms soldiers.

Speaker 18 (21:02):
That's sick a listen.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Because I'm the hardest mother.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
A lot of them.

Speaker 24 (21:06):
Songs, y'all, you know, we can't say certain words, and
already a lot of songs we just you know, trying
to know how you score that.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't even know
how you score that round. How do you score four.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Hundred degrees versus that's the time, that's the time. I
don't know if it's a time. I just don't know
how you score. I just they were both huge. It's
not about huge, it's about cultural impact.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
They both had Culturefred was big too.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
They both had that four hundred.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
I don't know I was one hundred because I don't
really resonate with the no limisoldier.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Outside because no minisolda was the nineties. That's when people forget.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
And I was born in ninety two, So I'm not
even you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 24 (21:47):
Well, there was so there was a lot of back
and forth literally what you guys just did, because you know,
they're going back and forth with the music. At one point, Bertman,
you know, stopped and remarting to remind the crowd before
he uh, you know, dropped his song that he started
starting Let's take a Let's.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Fresh, and I say something, bro.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I started this stun I started this jurry.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
I'm the first, but damners in their tea, the first
with tattools and they face.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I started this stunning let's get here for next. Push
your wants and the man push.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
You know, I don't need an introduction.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Cropes's own feeling. Oh but this hanging rins dougg it's
just starting shot at the top.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Man said that.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
I thought to myself, Oh, so you the problem. You
freeing all these people got tats on their face and
spending all their money on jury.

Speaker 9 (22:40):
Well, they was having fun the whole time.

Speaker 24 (22:43):
Like, yes, it was a lot of fun. And I
had a friend on the ground for us because I
wanted to know what the crowd was like. And he said,
even in the it was a party in the crowd,
like people going crazy. There were people there dressed in
the fatigue and so.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Then should have been in New Orleans, tho, Las Vegas.
Vegas did not deserve that.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
But like the crowd wasn't its type because they didn't
really know most of the songs.

Speaker 24 (23:07):
So he said it it was very I mean, we
kind of addressed this before it happened, though, he said
it was very obvious what songs people knew. So like
if back that you know a up comes, people are
throwing it over, I didn't know back that that's up
comes on, he said. People throwing it over, they dancing
with each other, songs that people knew, you really felt.

Speaker 18 (23:23):
But yes, the age gap did matter a bit.

Speaker 24 (23:25):
I think they tried to do the best they could
with the cameras as well, but he said that they
had a good time. Now Juvenile comes back in with
a project chick and no back track. The whole time,
Juvie is performing throughout the whole versus I say a
listening to Juvenile.

Speaker 9 (23:38):
Yo, that's how he performs all the time. I did
a couple of shows with you now over the years,
Oh yeah, like he because you know they feared the
comedy shows with the hip hop or whatever. But like
you and nobody can out rap you. Juv still raped
like back in the days.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
What it is when the music go off, He's still going.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
But look, I want to mention even the entourage is
like behind him, a bunch of young niggas. Man, it
was just on on like texting like they could have
been hype. I'd have been putting everybody off the stage
that was not Jock Queeze was hype. You can't even
see him.

Speaker 24 (24:09):
I saw Jock Queen's and Juvenile Sun. They were, you know,
they were hype on a no limit side. I feel
like they were all jumping and bouncing.

Speaker 20 (24:16):
They were.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
But I think what you said that like it was
like they was on the stage.

Speaker 24 (24:21):
We're gonna have to bring this back in the next
hour because as they closed out the verses, Berdman gave
a speech of sorts that now Turk has responded to.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
I don't care about the drama. Listen. It was too yet,
it was way too short.

Speaker 18 (24:35):
Way to it was way too sure.

Speaker 24 (24:36):
But before we get out of here, I wanted to
play me a X responding to uh project chick with
her with a free co because we didn't play any
of her.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
She was at work.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
They should have let me an ex get off. You
don't want to go to war with a soldier. That
would have been hard. They should have let her get off.
I'll take your man. That would have been hard me.
It was dope though me and because me always was
the show stealer, stealer with features. But they should have
let her get off. Those those two records.

Speaker 24 (25:03):
I feel like a lot of people got to meet
her because of this versus. There was a lot of
people that didn't know how dope she was. I saw
Lebron post about her too. Yeah, like there was there
was a lot of people who got to meet her.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
I remember when that whatever, that female list that came
out this year and I was like one of the
glaring omissions was me x and everybody was like I
was crazy too.

Speaker 21 (25:23):
It was.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Now I know. Yeah, I was introduced to the verses.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
How you ain't play about it, about it? You play,
you ain't playing about it.

Speaker 24 (25:33):
But I was, look, we got to pick and choose
time here, we got more. We got ten audios a day.
It was a lot of music played at this versus
and it was too short.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It was Yeah, it got to the.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Point where they left on the table between both of them.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 18 (25:47):
They could only play one verse from a certain from
certain songs.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
That so it's rules with the verses like that, like
you you can only play well verse listen and yeah allowed.

Speaker 18 (25:58):
I wonder why, I don't know.

Speaker 24 (26:00):
I know that the clips had a performance after the
verses ended at Complex kind of my friends stay for
that as well, So I don't know if maybe they
were just trying to fit it into a certain time slide,
but if so, they probably should have let them close
out the night so they could have had a bit
more time because it was y'all feel like this was
first time.

Speaker 26 (26:17):
It was.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
It was a lot of build you ain't get, wobble wobble,
you ain't get how you do that, you ain't get.
I mean, I know you probably couldn't play, but you
should have played mister the Man, right, Yeah, wasn't there
no Wayne?

Speaker 6 (26:31):
Go DJ Juvenile.

Speaker 24 (26:32):
I got that show up and they played the Wayne
song and people just stood around and people were like,
where is Wayne?

Speaker 6 (26:38):
So like, baby, what happened to that boy? Wayne? Hust
so much music on the table?

Speaker 18 (26:46):
Yes, yes, so we'll be back in the next hour.
But yeah, it was great for what we got.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
All right, Well that is the latest with Lauren. Now
when we come back, we got front page news with
me and don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good
morning one, everybody, your DJ NV just hilario. We are
the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news.
Quick sports. If you're intimate League baseball, the World Series
is happening right now. The Dodgers won last night five
to one. They tied the series to one one.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
So when is Kendrick coming out to perform? Not like
us man, when did that happen?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Drake was at the game.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't know I saw him.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
No, Drake was at the game in Toronto. He ain't
come to that game in La No, he would did
that way, he wouldn't be now.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
In some quick sports, the Ravens beat the Bears, the
Bills beat the Panthers, Patriots beat the Browns, the Buccaneers
beat the Saints, the Broncos beat the Cowboys, the Packers
beat the Steelers, the coach beat the Titans, the Eagles
beat the Giants, the Texas beat the forty nine ers.
And congratulations to the Jets fans. You guys won your
first game this year. They are now one and seven.
One of our producers and brought up read he has
his Jets jersey on. He bought it eight weeks ago

(27:46):
and this is the first time he worried.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Why, right, I just to understand why, Like you gotta
rep your team at all times. Like I saw a
guy yesterday wearing a Jets T shirt, and I felt
sorry for him, but I was still happy that he
was repping.

Speaker 13 (27:57):
Yesterday, I had a Jets hoy on in the first half,
so bad a game was going on. I turned it
off out and that's a finably went my jersey.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Now tonight and Monday night football. The command to take
go on to chief said eight fifteen, what's.

Speaker 15 (28:11):
Up, MEMI, Good morning, NB, Joss, Charlamagne, how y'all doing.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Let's Black and Holly Favorite? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
MEMI good?

Speaker 25 (28:16):
Thank you?

Speaker 14 (28:17):
All right, So this morning we start this hour with
developments of the hurricane Melissa, now a powerful Category five
storm packing winds of one hundred and sixty miles an hour. Now,
Melissa is expected to make landfall in Jamaica early Tuesday
before moving onward to Cuba and Jamaica. They are already
seeing heavy rainfall a tropical storm conditions, and forecasters worn

(28:39):
of catastrophic flooding, landslides, and destructive winds.

Speaker 15 (28:43):
As the storm moves ashore.

Speaker 14 (28:45):
Now, mandatory evacuations are underway in low lying areas. Airports
are closed and emergency shelters are open across the island.
The Cuba is also under hurricane warnings as officials there
braced for impact later late Tuesday, it has already taken
a tragic toll in Haiti and the Dominican Republic. In Haiti,
landslides triggered by Melissa's rain have killed at least three

(29:08):
people and damage hundreds of homes, and then the Dominican Republic,
flooding has cut off water to more than a half
a million people and force evacuations as the storm barrels
through northern Caribbean.

Speaker 15 (29:20):
So we'll continue to watch this, So sad man absolutely.

Speaker 14 (29:24):
And moving back here at home in Pennsylvania, where what
was supposed to be a weekend of celebration turned into
tragedy at one of the nation's oldest HBCUs, authorities say
twenty five year old Juwan Jeffers of Delaware was killed
in a shooting on the campus of Lincoln University late
Saturday night. Six others, all between the ages of twenty
to twenty five, were wounded, but are expected to survive now.

(29:48):
The shooting broke out just after midnight during homecoming celebrations
outside their International Cultural Center. Chester County District officials say
the violence. They believe the violence was not planned, but
ugh it spontaneously. Let's listen to that.

Speaker 27 (30:02):
Investigators now are operating under the strong belief that there
are multiple shooters at this event. We're operating under the
belief that the shooter or shooters in this case did
not come here with a specific design to cause a
mass casualty event. And so we're treating this as a
shooting that broke out in the middle of homecoming weekends.

Speaker 14 (30:23):
Well, one man, yeah, it is one man's Aquias Thompson Morgan,
also from Delaware. He has been arrested and charged with
carrying a concealed firearm without a license. He's being held
on twenty five thousand dollars bail. Police haven't confirmed whether
his gun was used in the shooting.

Speaker 26 (30:38):
Now.

Speaker 18 (30:38):
Witnesses say it was.

Speaker 14 (30:39):
A chaotic scene as crowd scattered in every direction. Let's
listen to that.

Speaker 12 (30:43):
And then next thing you know, another stampede coming. But
it was just like run like it was like more
like you felt it in your spirit, like something was
not something was happening that wasn't good. So I started
running and then next thing I know, people getting shot
as soon as.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
A long and I heard like five gunshots.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Bob foun this said somebody got shot in we heard
them in it.

Speaker 16 (31:05):
Everybody just started running, you know how people are, like
as soon as you hear them, it's nothing to do
but think run.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
So yeah, so sick.

Speaker 14 (31:12):
You've ever been, Yeah, you've ever been to a homecoming celebration,
It's just like the crowds and just chaos, they said,
chaos erupted with people just running everywhere.

Speaker 16 (31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
And like you said, if you've ever been a homecoming,
especially HBCU homecoming, that's one of the safest places to go.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
There's never another reason to buy bring a weapon with you.
Like it's usual. It's always love.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
It's always love and having a good time in celebrating
school and school spirit and just catching up with friends.
And sometimes homecomings don't just bring a lung. But it's
never a place to bring a weapon. I've never felt unsafe.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
At a homecoming ever ever at all.

Speaker 14 (31:46):
Well, officials are asking anyone with photos or videos to
contact the FBI tip line. Classes at Lincoln University they
have been suspended today and they say counseling services are
being offered. And meanwhile, just a few hours away in
DC and other shooting taking place near the campus of
Howard University. Police say five people were shot Friday night

(32:06):
near the campus. Police say none of the victims or
Howard students, although one did does attend Morgan State University.
Two suspects are in custody, but authorities haven't released their
names or said what led to that violence.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
So that's crazy too.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Salute to anybody that went to a HBCU homecoming this weekend,
and condolences to anybody that lost somebody. Man, it's I
hate when you see something like a home coming in
and if you ever bring to an HBCU homecoming, you
know what that love is. You know what that love
feels like, whether it's a eighty year old alum to
a you know, a nineteen year old student, it's just
so much great vibes and great feeling like you never

(32:39):
want to.

Speaker 14 (32:40):
See this, You never want to see that, absolutely envy.
You're right, all right, And so we talked about this
earlier last week. So while police pace together what happened
overseas are there overseas investigators are involving solving another type
of crime. I'm talking about the one that we talked
about with that jewel heights at the Louver Museum.

Speaker 15 (32:58):
Well, this morning two men are under arrest.

Speaker 14 (33:01):
French prosecutors say the suspects were taken into custody Saturday night.

Speaker 15 (33:05):
One of them were caught trying to board a flight
to Algeria.

Speaker 16 (33:08):
Now.

Speaker 15 (33:09):
Both men are in their thirties, they were already known
to police.

Speaker 14 (33:12):
Investigators say DNA evidence left at the scene helped identify
one of them. Officials having said whether any of the
stolen pieces worth an estimated one hundred and two million
dollars have been recovered, but we talked about this.

Speaker 15 (33:25):
The heights took less than eight minutes. They use a crane,
They cut through.

Speaker 14 (33:29):
Glass, smashed displayed cases, and escape with priceless crown jewels
linked to France's royal family and the Napoleon Empire. France
says that one hundred and more than one hundred investigators
are working on the case and they're trying to figure
out how they pulled off such a brazen attack. Experts
say that the jewels are historically priceless, but could still

(33:49):
fetch millions on the black market if broken apart.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 14 (33:54):
Well, Also, lastly, today is my son Landon's birthday. He
turns twelve, so I just want to wish him birthday, Lan.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yes, how was your Ted talk this weekend?

Speaker 16 (34:04):
Too?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Mebe?

Speaker 9 (34:05):
It was so amazing.

Speaker 15 (34:06):
Thank you Charlae Mae for asking. It was so amazing.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
Just being able to connect with the community in Alsadena
and just be amongst so many people who are still rebuilding.

Speaker 15 (34:16):
And just doing the work was so great. So thank you.

Speaker 16 (34:19):
It was.

Speaker 15 (34:19):
It was a really great time.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Is it up on YouTube? You watch it?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Not yet?

Speaker 15 (34:23):
They said it's got to go through Ted, and then
Ted will put it up on their platform and all
of that. So I will keep you guys posted on
when it's.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
When it's on YouTube, gotcha right?

Speaker 16 (34:32):
Well?

Speaker 14 (34:33):
Thank you absolutely. That is your front page news. I'm
Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV for more stories,
follow the Black Information Network and download the free iHeartRadio
app or visit bi nnews dot com.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Now, when we come back, Total Case and one twelve
will be joining us. They're on tour together and we're
gonna talk about their too. I think it's the Room
one twelve tour, So we're gonna talk about them and
everything that they got coming up. We're gonna talk about
hip hop and music and R and B history a
little bit. I don't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Morning.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Everybody is d J n V, Jess Hilarrys, Charlamagne, the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club lare as well. We got
some special guests in the Bountain. Come on now we
have one twelve, we have total and we have Case.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
How are y'all doing?

Speaker 6 (35:23):
And this is not a random link up, y'all going
on tour together?

Speaker 19 (35:27):
This is the one twelve Room one twelve thirtieth anniversary tour.
We're so excited. Brought our brother Case and our sister's
Total with us, so you know, have a good time.

Speaker 21 (35:37):
Man.

Speaker 19 (35:37):
First first shows win November, Yeah, November twelve. Staff for
Connecticut Brooklyn is November thirteen.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
So there's a members missing. So are the members going
to be on tour or this is the tour?

Speaker 19 (35:51):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah nice other.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Members, you by yourself, we're made. Now the right time
for all of y'all to come together.

Speaker 19 (36:06):
Oh that's a great question, bro. Honestly managed it.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
It just felt right.

Speaker 19 (36:10):
It being thirty years, you know, us being in the game,
so it just it just made sense for us to
just get out here and just show the fans that
we really appreciate what they've been doing, you know, been
rocking out with us for the last thirty years man,
So you know, we're really excited about it. Man, Like
we're managed totally and one twelve we managed by the
same you know crew, So of course that was an easy,
you know decision to make with that. And then in

(36:31):
case you know, being you know bro, Yeah, that's the bro,
you know what I mean, and all of us having
that catalog is definitely we wanted to bring back that
ninety nostalgy and.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
All y'all still sing thank you. That's you know, not
everybody doing it, but y'all can still sing.

Speaker 19 (36:46):
That's important.

Speaker 16 (36:47):
Good man.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
How did y'all find that balance back in the day
between between being like sexy but strong but still streaked
with it?

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Like, how did y'all find that balance?

Speaker 9 (36:55):
It was just natural. That's just who we are growing
up Jersey, like how we were.

Speaker 25 (37:01):
And that's what made us. To me, that's what made
us who we were.

Speaker 28 (37:05):
Total the name started out as total opposites because we
were all individuals in our.

Speaker 25 (37:10):
Own way, you know, So it was it wasn't like
you had to buy the brand we came as we were.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah, And how was the bad Boy ever back then?

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Growing up?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Because there was a time nineties two thousand it was
nothing but bad Boy in the radio, nothing but bad
Boy on the streets, mixtapes to clubs. How was that
era where it just it felt like anything y'all did
hit it was.

Speaker 25 (37:32):
It's some beautiful things.

Speaker 9 (37:34):
It was fun, it was.

Speaker 18 (37:36):
That's what we learned a lot of our grind from
that whole era.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Grinding just out there. It was going to the like
it was just fun.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
It was just like a big old party yep.

Speaker 29 (37:49):
Us coming from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying, Like
it was a different it was like a different culture.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So you know, you know, you can't imagine how that felt.

Speaker 29 (37:56):
He's coming out, I know, he's from the you know
what I'm saying, so coming to New York coach, you know,
so you know, but but it was so much fun
because it was just like, okay, clubs smaller, but you
know what i mean. But it was like in your face,
so you know what I'm saying. So, but we learned
a lot musically here, m hmm.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
What about for you case? Now, you weren't on Bad Boy,
you were on Death Jama Jam. You a songwriter, you
had you have the I always say, you have that
one wedding song that you will get paid for for
the rest of your life happily ever.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
After, Like.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
That was that was coming up for you in that
and during that time, because at that time you were
death Jam. Death Jam was heavy cop and you was
probably one of the only R and B singers at
the time.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I mean it was.

Speaker 11 (38:39):
It was cool for me, except for the only problem
what they was learning on the fly how to do
their own bat and so I get caught up in
that some time. But yeah, I mean, you know how
big they was then, so that part was cool. It
was just a lot of times they had a lot
of hip hop sensibilities because it hip hop labor. But
one of the things that helped me was that I
was the last artist that Russell personally signed to death Jam,

(39:00):
so I'd always call him and be like, yo, I
can snitch.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
You know the record was gonna be so timeless, like
touch me, tease me happily ever aver.

Speaker 11 (39:09):
I didn't know, But that's what I always wanted to do,
Like I never wanted to make like trendy stuff. I
always wanted to make music like my parents would listening
to stuff from like twenty thirty years earlier, and they
would have me doing it. And so my thing was like,
if I could do that, then I'd be happy and
then everything else will fall in line.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
You worked with a Mary J, Beyonce Brown, who else?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
There's a bunch of people ll ghost Face, ghost Face, Genuine, Tyrie, Genuine,
Terry Jam and Lewis. I felt like de f GM
didn't treat you like a regular artist, right with Total
in one twelve. I would see them out in the
club like bad Boy would have him out, Deaf Gym artists,
deaf GM would have them out. I didn't see you
def Gym put you out as much like that was

(39:51):
it because you didn't want.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
To go out or I probably didn't know what to
do it because he was R and B.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I think a lot of it.

Speaker 11 (39:56):
Yeah, First of all, I hate going out, okay, So
if I didn't have to be there, that's why you
always be like yo, you know stuff about you know
how to.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Be over here.

Speaker 11 (40:06):
So I mean I wasn't really big on going out,
or when I did, it'd be I'd be somewhere else.
Unless I had to beat somewhere with them.

Speaker 24 (40:14):
We got you, did you guys? Well, Mike, I saw
you say that you feel like you know you guys
first album. Without that, you don't think the R and
B would be as prevalent or as worldwide as it
is running.

Speaker 19 (40:24):
So yeah, the mind frame was we started that whole trend.
It's like the way music sounds now. One twelve had
a lot to do with that because no one can
really give us a group that did it the way
that we did it before one twelve, Like as far
as singing over hip hop beats and stuff like that,
like you I challenged in, but find me a group
that did it because back then in the day, what

(40:45):
you had the A side and you had the B
side right, and then on the B side of the records, right,
they had the records, you had the uptempo record where
they were singing, but they were always it's all that
singing over uptempo beats and stuff. It was like it
was confusing.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Puff.

Speaker 19 (40:58):
One one thing that Puff told us was like, like
when you're in the club, when you when you're recording
a record, right, sing the song as if you're in
the club drinking and you're trying to holler at the girl.
You ain't gonna be in this girl talking about Yeah
you're gonna go I want to be with you, you
know what I mean, It's gonna be something smoothing. So

(41:19):
when we wrote records, when we wrote the up Turboat records,
and then Slim having the voice being able to just
lay on the tracks the way that we did, like
that started an hole everwhere people now like when you
hear R and B it has a hip hop element
to it as well. It's not just R and B.
It's a hip hop element.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Isn't that a bad boy formula? Or wasn't that Diddy?

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Like I feel like Diddy did that like with Jodysie.
I feel like he did that with Mary J Blige,
like he did that with Total.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 19 (41:42):
I'll give you Mary j Blige because yeah, she she helped, uh,
because we always say that Mary is between Mary and
one twelve, but one twelve really and then yeah, puff,
did you know he did contribute because we came.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
In with just and we aren't beat.

Speaker 19 (41:54):
We aren't beat bro, like forget all that stuff, man
like hip hop that's gonna cheapen our sound and all
this sudden stuff, and he's had the vision was like, Yo,
this is what's going to separate y'all from the jew Hills,
from the Jaggets, from the you know, the Ajets and
all these other groups that were coming out at the
same time.

Speaker 9 (42:08):
And you know what that that didn't make perfect sense,
right instead of all I would love you to come
up to me and let me tell.

Speaker 16 (42:14):
You what.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (42:20):
That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 19 (42:23):
Out of ten ain't gonna be able to sing. So
he's like, bro, all of that in my ear, Like
I don't want to hear all that. Yeah, you know,
so that.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
You'll agree with Mike's assessment. Not to start any arguments here,
but in case, do you agree with that?

Speaker 11 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean it was, it was part of it.
I mean if that during that era, that's when hip
hop and R and B was, Yeah, so pretty much.
I feel like Bad Boy wasn't the Fifront.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah definitely.

Speaker 25 (42:43):
Yeah, total was hip hop with that touch of R
and B.

Speaker 28 (42:47):
Your R and B group, but I think we were
more base hip hop with the touch of R and B.
And Mary definitely was the pioneer of that sound. When
Popp did the remixes, with Jodasy because Jodasy was just
the R and B and then he the hip hop ghost.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Facing Rayquon on the Freaking You remixed.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
You know, like I can't even I don't want to hear.
Can't you see without Biggie part? Like I hated when
some of the urban stations back in the day didn't
play Raptords.

Speaker 19 (43:10):
Just play.

Speaker 12 (43:11):
I hated.

Speaker 19 (43:13):
I was like, I would go before that's.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
No fact, yes, because they didn't want a lot of
didn't play played Wow.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
So how did y'all sign to Puff? What did y'all
met puffing? Puff was like, this is the group that
I want. How did that start?

Speaker 9 (43:32):
Because the first time we met Puffy through Kathy Duke.

Speaker 18 (43:38):
Huff is what's her son's is her son's godfather?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Kathy.

Speaker 28 (43:44):
One day when when we were introduced to Kathy, Kathy
was like, I would love to represent y'all manage ours.
So were riding riding, Kathy was like, y'all gotta always
be ready, always be ready. So she pulls up, she
goes upstairs. She's like, I'll be right back. She comes
downstairs and she was like, Okay, I need y'all to
make up a song and put Puffy's name in it
at the time, Puffy's Puffy.

Speaker 25 (44:05):
He's actually in the studio with Joe.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Tosy doing the remix.

Speaker 28 (44:08):
So he comes downstairs, he introduces himself and then we
just start singing, but we're performing.

Speaker 16 (44:13):
Yeah, we had them all backed up against the wall.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yead his mouth open.

Speaker 25 (44:18):
He was like, how do you Yes, our ages came upstairs.

Speaker 28 (44:25):
We watched him, you know, direct Jo Tosy, and then
he asked us how well did we get along in
the studio, like if we had an argument, did we
get back in the studio?

Speaker 6 (44:34):
And we were like yeah.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
So he was like okay.

Speaker 25 (44:37):
So he was like, yo, yah, y'all, y'all sound really good.

Speaker 28 (44:40):
He was like, yo, I just encourage y'all to keep
doing what y'all doing, you know, don't let nobody break y'all.

Speaker 16 (44:45):
Up.

Speaker 28 (44:45):
Two o'clock that morning, he called Kathy. He was like,
don't take them nowhere on the signum.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
What was the first song that y'all did? What was
the first thing y'all recorded?

Speaker 28 (44:53):
Well, we recorded songs that never went anywhere because we're
just trying to find our sound.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
But can't you no you Juicy Juicy was the first
record I bet ye.

Speaker 16 (45:03):
The story behind how we wind up recording Juicy is
like Big was like our little big brother.

Speaker 18 (45:08):
Like we were close with Big, so.

Speaker 16 (45:10):
We would frequently be in New York hanging out in
the studio with him.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
So he called this one day.

Speaker 18 (45:15):
He was like, come to the city we was in.

Speaker 16 (45:17):
He was in the studio. So we went to the
studio and he was playing Juicy. Keisha started humming something.
Big it was like, y'all should go in there and
put that down. So he, you know, just gave us
some words or whatever, and we went in there and
we put it down, and Puff had us come back
the next day and do the one More Chance songs.

Speaker 9 (45:33):
So that's how it started.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Y I.

Speaker 16 (45:41):
Original one more Chance, the one on the album is
different from.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
The favorite with the voicemail in the front.

Speaker 25 (45:47):
Yeah, we need to work on that Juicy.

Speaker 18 (45:49):
Yeah, it says it now when you google it.

Speaker 16 (45:51):
But I assume that it wasn't necessarily supposed to be
in a future for Biggie because it was his first
single and stuff like that.

Speaker 25 (45:58):
So yeah, and we I don't think, you know, we
were new.

Speaker 16 (46:01):
I don't think it was something that just happened, like
we was in the studio, we got in trouble. It
was our managers like, don't do that no more. But
I just think they didn't plan for it to be
Biggie's first album to have.

Speaker 9 (46:12):
A feature on it.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Did y'all get right and cres for it?

Speaker 14 (46:14):
No?

Speaker 25 (46:15):
No, because Big wrote it.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
I didn't know y'all was on Juicy al Woman and
we know those records. Chance Dirty version is like one
of my favorite records.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Wow, And can't you see why can't you see it
come together?

Speaker 28 (46:30):
We just came to the studio and the track was
playing and we were like, oh snap. And then Terry Robinson, Terry.

Speaker 25 (46:39):
Who was the group that Terry was the Girls.

Speaker 28 (46:42):
Terry Robinson's so incredible as far as songwriting, and she came.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
She was like, this is this is what it is?

Speaker 25 (46:49):
Okay, verse, I like that verse?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
You liked that verse?

Speaker 9 (46:52):
Like that verse?

Speaker 25 (46:53):
We went recorded it and.

Speaker 21 (46:55):
It was what it was.

Speaker 14 (46:58):
No.

Speaker 25 (46:59):
Big wasn't on it.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
He was a studio was in the studio and then
he came in and laid it down.

Speaker 25 (47:03):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Did y'all enjoy the moment of the nineties, Because when
I look at y'all, it's like, y'all are like mythical
figures to me right, like you know what I'm saying,
because y'all define not just the genre, but like y'all
would have soundtrackted our lives.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Did y'all enjoy the moment?

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (47:21):
Yeah when they said was in the building.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
When we were on a high.

Speaker 28 (47:33):
I mean, you couldn't ask for a better label, you know,
in a place to be and especially like aspiring artists
when this is something that you dream of doing to
land on Babbel and I do. We remember the time
clearly when it bad boy was everywhere. It was nothing
to just walk in the club or walk anywhere and
just get that love, admiration and respect.

Speaker 19 (47:55):
It was black world wearing black leather when you know
the headbands, everybody's doing him like we were.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
It was.

Speaker 19 (48:03):
It was deeper than the music.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 25 (48:05):
It was.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
It was.

Speaker 25 (48:09):
It was a movement and we loved each other yeah, yeah,
and each other.

Speaker 19 (48:16):
A lot of ways. How the record got together, Like
like we tell the story of how we we were
on Big. Like if you look at listen to Life
after Death right one twelve is all like big he
shouts us out throughout the whole album. That's because we
were in the in the studio with him. Like, so
daddy's house had the neve, the S s L and
the and the pre production room. Right, so twelve is

(48:37):
in the pre production room, Junior Mafia. Big is all
in the neve room. Seeds come out and says, yo,
big one, y'all.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
So we go in there.

Speaker 19 (48:47):
From here up, we smoked, right, so we can't see
what nobody did. So we feeled around. So Big is
just sitting there, right, and and we use this all that.
We use the word genius. We throw the word genius
out a lot, but this is true death condition to genius. Right,
So we're walking in Big CS. He said, Yo, what up?

Speaker 6 (49:05):
And that's it?

Speaker 19 (49:06):
He says, nothing else, right, So everybody else, Junior Mafia,
they moving around, everybody's laughing, everybody's smoking, having a good time,
everybody's drinking. You know, twelve we baked out our minds
because we don't smoke, you know, So we baked right.
So around two three hours later, Big it's like, yo,
I'm ready, and the engineers like ready for what? So
dude gets up going to the booth and does I
got a story to tell? One twelve CD blast Because

(49:29):
we were in the room with us. He's listening to
everybody's story and he's listening to Junior Mafia tell that story.
One twelve, tell that story. And then he goes in
that done write anything down? And that's what the genius. Like,
we saw that firsthand, Like this dude never wrote anything
him and Faith Faith, like Faith doesn't write anything down either,
Like so Faith, don't Faith don't write and share down

(49:50):
here Jesus. Yeah, Faith don't write anything down. We watched her, Dude,
you abandoned me. Love don't live where we was at
a what's the other studio?

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Bro?

Speaker 19 (49:57):
I forget what it's Uh, she was a hit factory
well doing that record with Mary J. Blid and she
she just went in there and just did the whole
thing without no like, yo, what the paper? She don't
need no paper market And then like.

Speaker 18 (50:13):
It from life and.

Speaker 19 (50:16):
Faith, the only two.

Speaker 9 (50:17):
I've ever seen, I got a story to tell just
straight came the he went just hearing the story.

Speaker 19 (50:22):
He's watching everybody tell their story, like.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
And he justiated.

Speaker 19 (50:29):
Say the hell out of that record.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
Him and j Z the only people that do that.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Oh yeah, that.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Is a gift for sure.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Back in the day, it's like R and B used
to celebrate like love and heartbreak, but now like it
feels transactional.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
What do y'all think made vulnerability cool?

Speaker 29 (50:49):
Back then, it was just a time period where, you know,
where everything was going on in the world.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
We used music as our getaway. It was our medicine,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 29 (50:58):
Anybody remember the nineties. We came to the club, and
we came anywhere. Everybody came to party to dance.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
You know, now you're going you go into places.

Speaker 29 (51:07):
I don't know how it is too much here in
New York as much, but I know in Atlanta everybody's
staring at each other everywhere on the phone, you know,
and it's like it's.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
A different type of a feel.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
So you know, so that's his homecoming if it's homecoming,
and okay, that's true, but regular clubs is. But even
when you say that, you know, the alumni, it's us
cranking it up, you know.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 19 (51:33):
So you know, yeah, back then R and B was
kind of it was more hyperbolic, you know what I mean.
It was it was you know, good, damn well, we're
not climbing, no highest mountain swimming, no deeper sea, but
we gave you We're not doing all of that, but
we gave you the impression. We sung it and made
believe that that that was possible. Anything was possible. And nowadays, man,

(51:56):
it's just it's different.

Speaker 25 (51:58):
The music is too, and we came from good music
from my parents.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's what I'm about to say.

Speaker 11 (52:03):
Yeah, I think the other thing that did it was
hip hop became more hyperbolic. Definitely a good word for that.
But when it merged with R and B so much,
it became not cool to have feelings. But I guess
that's how people felt. And then the strip cup club
culture got involved. When it's everything is that And I
always say that, like with everything that's going on in

(52:24):
the world and people's lives, you got to be able
to sing about something more than threesomes in the strip clubs,
something else going on, you know what I'm saying. And
nobody really does that. Well, I almost say nobody, but
a lot of the music does have that. No more,
they don't have the feelings that are having the vulnerability.
Like you said, it's all trying to be rappers, basically,
all the trying and a lot of that technology so.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Crazy because even the rappers back then, most of the
rappers back then, we loved him because they were vulnerable.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
You love pot because he was vulnerable. You loved Big
he was vulnerable because vulnerable. How do y'all balance egos?
You know, you know, when you're dealing with three legendary
acts who all all had that individual moments, you know.

Speaker 19 (53:02):
It's it's a respect level. Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's like because I'm I'm actually fans.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah, actually.

Speaker 19 (53:10):
I love that, and I know it sounds cliche whatever,
but it's the truth. And you know, we we so
often we don't tell the truth, you know, we getting
this type or form or whatever, but we are genuinely
like Total was our first pick to be on this.
Room one twelve tour case was our first pick to
be on this because in case his catalog, we just
spoke about his catalog ridiculous, Total ridiculous, one twelve ridiculous,

(53:32):
And we wanted to bring back that nineties nostalgia, you know,
and just bring back that whole era of I knew
where I was when I heard only you for the
first time, you know, I knew who I was when
I heard Cupid when I heard I'm missing you and
when I heard can't you see for the first time,
like I remember where I was when I heard these
used to be.

Speaker 11 (53:49):
I think that ego is healthy on the tour, especially
like this, because you have to if you use it
the right way. Like for me, it's like, Okay, I'm
gonna try to kill everybody. They're gonna feel the same
with the fans, the one that wins, as opposed to
people who just go up there don't care, like I
just got to come from that.

Speaker 25 (54:10):
You got, you got, we come from that came in
I tour and be like, well total twelve just killed ya.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
That's how you gotta do it.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
And that's that's the because the only people that win
is the fans.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Was that ever a low time for y'all?

Speaker 19 (54:28):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely was. I think for us, the
resurgence of the nineties, you know, was was something that
was what we appreciated more than anything, and that happened
about what maybe almost like six seven years ago. It
was like what the pandemic?

Speaker 29 (54:43):
You didn't know when you didn't know what the state
of music and and how the industry and how we
were going to perform was going to be. Remember everybody
start experimenting with the whole you know, taping, you know,
and then the video. Yeah, I thought we were going
to just it's going to be that, you know, so

(55:05):
so much gratitude now to you know what I mean,
see it for where it is, and and we feel
like it's a blessing that of all the errors they
chose to pick, they picked the nineties, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
So I would want to go back, just I really
want to experience it in New York, like.

Speaker 9 (55:25):
Left at Me.

Speaker 24 (55:27):
I think at that one time you left at Me.
I just feel like the time that you guys were
like like the top, it was such a good time.
Here it doesn't seem real, like when we hear the
stories or like listening to y'all talk about just walking
in the studio, Big Biggie's just there and like.

Speaker 18 (55:45):
You know, I can't imagine I'm young and just being
like on top.

Speaker 19 (55:50):
Yeah, like in that time, but you're working so hard
that you don't even realize it, you know what I mean,
Like you don't even realize what it took us to
step away from it, you know. And and okay, we
can use it as our downtime, you know, and say
that that was the time for us to go back
and look at it and say, man, we we did
more than just saying, you know, we contributed to a
culture like we we are part of history, you know. Yeah,

(56:15):
so that's that was amazing. It's looking at it now
being older, like you're looking at it now because my
kids now they're they're going back and they googling like Dad, y'all,
y'all the pieces of cream, the video. You know, my
kid no, because I don't go around I don't. I
don't go around here looking Michael. You know, I don't.
I don't do that. You know, like they just they

(56:37):
grew up as normal as I I hoped I could
because I could teach them to be because it's such
a mental strain that the industry takes, like it gives,
but it also takes. One of the things is, you know,
the lack of you know, the mental health that comes along,
you know what saying with that, well, because you're you're

(56:57):
inundated with all of this, you know, you have to
be perfect every time you see you're out, you all,
your face has always got to be right, your clothes
gotta always be right, or man, they don't fell out, bro.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Like I just came from to jail, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Yeah, camera messed that up. The camera messed it up
because when like the reason I asked if he was
out is I would see everybody out right. I was
a kid growing up, so I would go to grands
toom and see y'all one hundred twenty fish, go to
the tunnel and see y'all in the tunnel of different things.
And there was no VIP area. That's what it does,

(57:30):
and it gave you a connection with the artist, but
there was no phone, there was no I'm taking a picture,
there was no the only thing that you would possibly
do if you want, and nobody want to look corny,
but you might ask for an autograph, but nobody wanted
to come in club and do that. So it gave
you the moment. And I feel like people are not
enjoying the moment, man.

Speaker 28 (57:49):
And I'm like, I never went live ever went live
on Instagram, and I wasn't expecting this. Beyonce came out
and she just started speaking, I'm all live. I'm like,
I'm on live, y'all as b and she started speaking
and I started crying. I was not expecting. I was like, Okay, Gods,
I gotta go. Literally, I might have been filming for
like ten seconds. You gotta be in the moment because

(58:11):
it's an experience.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Watching it back, No, it's not. I want to ask
she and Keeme it back in the day. What made
y'all decide to go up to the radio station and press.
Wendy Williams like, what did she say to y'all that
that caused y'all said, you know, we gotta go see
her there? No, hell no, my time wait before my
time was the nineties, right, yeah, I think, yeah, out.

Speaker 9 (58:41):
The window when the ones in the window, she just
you know.

Speaker 25 (58:45):
And she was playing with our money.

Speaker 18 (58:47):
She just was disrespectful.

Speaker 28 (58:49):
Yeah, and we had already sent the warning and then
she just kept saying Like first Wendy was just like, oh,
we got something.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
And then we came up.

Speaker 25 (58:58):
We came up to the radio station, we saying. She
was like, oh, we sang a cappella.

Speaker 28 (59:01):
She was like, oh, y'all can sing, And it was
that it was just like, oh, your jersey and I
hear that they can't pay rent and they can't pay
their rent and stuff, and we were like, you know what,
enough is enough because at that time that's all she
was doing. It's like, listen, you know, when we get
these opportunities as black artists, we got to uplift them
and talk optivity that they do right. Instead of you

(59:24):
give a moment a blitz of something that they did
positive and then something that happened negative.

Speaker 25 (59:28):
You're playing that all day. So we were just like,
enough is enough. Kema was like puff, can we go
up there?

Speaker 18 (59:38):
Because I didn't you know, I know politically we would
have been in trouble for me.

Speaker 16 (59:41):
But he just went up there.

Speaker 18 (59:42):
So we act permission and he didn't say down tired.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
He was like go ahead. It was like with you,
what is that that you had to say?

Speaker 25 (59:51):
And she was like what No, no, no, talk that
stuff right now.

Speaker 28 (59:54):
And then her her husband at the time security, He
had said something to our security like come on, man,
come on, and she ran to the car.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
She got in the car the.

Speaker 25 (01:00:04):
Summer and then we never heard no more from her.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
She just tells the story. You said, y'all sent her
a warner was you all want to sit the fish?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
No, I don't really want you to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Death chair Boss said that death fish in the mall.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Somebody said that with the fishes.

Speaker 11 (01:00:25):
Yet he said that she said that I was Boston
Joss was.

Speaker 20 (01:00:31):
Around that time.

Speaker 11 (01:00:32):
It happened around the time when I just signed and
I just met her shout out there too. She passed
a few years ago. But yeah, I didn't even know
about that Wendy you used to. I can't say nothing
about Wendy because she would find out stuff about me,
but she never she would call me and be like,
look this was I'm hearing, and she would send me
the faxes. I don't know why she looked out for me.
I'm glad she did, because, uh, somebody somebody was dead

(01:00:55):
on No, not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
A crush on me, right, But the reason it's that
because y'all was able to pull up on people. Nowaday
people just be in a basement behind the computers talking.

Speaker 19 (01:01:08):
That's the worst Internet.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, that's so many questions.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
You got to know.

Speaker 19 (01:01:12):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
I just gotta ask my mom. Sorry, no one else. Beat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Were y'all confused when you first heard that beat?

Speaker 14 (01:01:19):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
No, because there was snares all over that place.

Speaker 28 (01:01:24):
We did not know what was going to be put
over it, Okay, because that was Terry once again Terry Robinson.

Speaker 25 (01:01:30):
It's like, how are you going to write over it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Said?

Speaker 25 (01:01:33):
I heard it crazy. It's one of my favorites. Hard
If we could just get all of those acts on
the stage one day, we're gonna stay homeful.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Well, thank you guys for joining us one twelve to month,
y'all back them tickets. Yeah, and it's the breakfast called
good Morning. Let's to the Latest with Lauren Lauren to color.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
The straight back.

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
She gets them. Somebody that knows, somebody gets the detail.

Speaker 18 (01:02:08):
I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
And she'd be having the latest on you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
The lawn, The Latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Sometimes you have factors, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you
have a little bit of everything. It's the latest on
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
Talk to me, all right.

Speaker 24 (01:02:24):
So there was a moment at the end of the
verses with Cash Money in a limit where they were
wrapping up and many Fresh gave Bertman and he tried
to get Master Pede to come back on stage to
but Master p didn't come back out. They gave you know,
the CEO sometime to just talk about how epic the
night was Let's take a listen to Bertman.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Started with my brother Sun in a little small lass house,
and we knew it was gonna change the world.

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
And we changed the world. Cast money forever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
You heard me when I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Met blood as it was trying to do something different
in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
I started young, trying to get some money and not
being in the streets.

Speaker 28 (01:03:02):
I met Beiji, I met Wayne, I met Julie, I
met Turk.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Shout out to Turk and look, you ain't help.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
We're gonna put you when we want you on that
strict So we lost a lot of soldiers.

Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
Cash money ain't gonna never die.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Longst I'm alive.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Cash money ain't gonna never die.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Shout out to my NBA young boy, NB, ain't riskin
po don't like.

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
It with all the bush if you ain't with us.

Speaker 18 (01:03:34):
Yeah, so that's how they close it out.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
Now.

Speaker 18 (01:03:37):
Turk has a sense responding.

Speaker 24 (01:03:39):
And actually Turk was hosting a watch party for the
Versus in Houston and he was live on his YouTube channel,
and then he did a follow up video where he
was talking directly to Birdman.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Let's take a listen to Turk, Birdman, I didn't think
you dissed me or none of that, but you did
put a ten on one with it. You know what
I'm saying. You said, we with you when we want.
That's all the way, all the way wrong. Y'all can't
with me when y'all want. You know, y'all can with
the fans when y'all wont. Because at the end of
the day, y'all not stopping my bag. I can't control

(01:04:10):
what nobody else got going on, So I don't trip
about that. You ain't gonna see me going all nah,
the fans not getting what they're supposed to have. If
it wasn't for the fans, none of us would be
who he is. You put the bag up, but it
wouldn't be no situation if it wasn't for us all
putting down and doing what we do as a whole.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Everybody contributed. I have accepted what it is. When you spoke,
you spoke for y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Turk is absolutely correct, you know what I mean. What
Turk said is true. It's all about the fans and Turk.
You also said something like the reason Wayne wasn't there
was because Wayne said, if all of them aren't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
There, he's not coming.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
Yeah, if that's the case.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Birdman should have swallowed his pride and let Turk be
there because nobody is bigger than the program. And a
lot of people were disappointed that Wayne wasn't there, and
I saw people criticizing Wayne for not being there. But
if Wayne is standing on the fact that I wasn't
there because it's not all of us there, I respect
it in Turks one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (01:05:04):
Right yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:05:05):
And he also Turk also on this YouTube video talked
about the fact that because he had said in the
earlier lot, which is the one that you're talking about, Charlotte,
that he felt like no Limit won and people took
that as like shade, but the explains it here and
he says that he feels.

Speaker 18 (01:05:18):
Like they won because of them being able to get together.
Let's sick listen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I feel like last night, Man, the fans lost. A
lot of people try to make things be about them.
I read when the fans beat and keep your head up,
do this, keep going, we rocking with youah dah day
that that mean a lot to me. I went dead
almost a decade in the penitential, and you.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Know who stood down with me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
It was my wife and my fans. People got to understand, bro,
that if people lose, it's the fans.

Speaker 16 (01:05:48):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I feel like no limit, no limit came and they
did what they needed to do for the fans, and
to me, that's why they win.

Speaker 19 (01:05:55):
You know, they put their differences to the side for
the fans.

Speaker 9 (01:05:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:06:00):
So I mean, look, hopefully maybe one day that'll happen.

Speaker 24 (01:06:03):
They'll get it together, because when I did see them
in New Orleans and they were all together, it felt really,
really good and you could tell that they were all
happy to be together, including little Wayne.

Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
So yes that if people forget, this is a celebration
of music versus it's a battle, but it's also a
celebration of music.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
And I think I'm a fan. I would have loved
to see them all together and really performing all those
songs together.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
But that's why Turk said that is true.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
It's all about the fans, and that's that's why I
had three big questions for me from versus. Why was
it so short, right, because the fans definitely got jipped
from that only being ten rounds when it's usually twenty.
I want to know why I wasn't weighing there officially,
is what Turk said true?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Why wasn't in New Orleans.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
Well, yeah, we know a co complex con wasn't in
New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
And you said it's a celebration of music, right, So
was not playing mister Coup's music intentional? Because Mimsical's music
was a big part of No Limit and if it's
just a celebration of music, we should be able.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
To play it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
But he wasn't there to perform, right, you know, it
would have been odd just to play music. Kind of
when they they played a male's record and it was Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
It was so weird.

Speaker 18 (01:07:02):
It was crickets and people were like, what is happening
right now?

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Probably because the mill didn't fit the vibe I'd played,
go DJ, I really that five better than a million and.

Speaker 24 (01:07:13):
Many fresh could have rocked out with that a little
bit more, because it's like they played it and they
all just kind of took an intermission because they didn't
have any other choice but to.

Speaker 18 (01:07:19):
But I'll get an answer to those questions as anything
Wayne is about.

Speaker 24 (01:07:24):
And that's why to me, I'm like, man like people
would really they really want to see all y'all together.
It's it's like it's history. But also it does feel
like more of a celebration. When you see them all
uniting on stage together. As we rapped really quick, I
did want to shout out Brandy and Monica. They returned
back to Chicago, they were able to fully get through
the tour.

Speaker 18 (01:07:42):
This time.

Speaker 24 (01:07:43):
They brought Maya out on stage as well. Yeah, and
that was everywhere as well too. But we have Brandy
apologizing to the fans in Chicago for the last time
when she was you know, she had to leave the stage,
he said, listen.

Speaker 9 (01:07:59):
Just wanted to.

Speaker 8 (01:08:04):
I have to.

Speaker 25 (01:08:05):
I wasn't looking well and I just I just lose
your cologize and I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 28 (01:08:12):
The concept.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yeah, y'all giving up one more times?

Speaker 9 (01:08:22):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Was that a schedule stop or did they go back
because she left?

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
Think they went back right because they were done their shows,
weren't they?

Speaker 27 (01:08:28):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:08:29):
No, no, that the weekend that we covered was their
first weekend saying that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:33):
They were done in Chicago.

Speaker 24 (01:08:35):
Oh yeah, I mean I thought it was a scheduled
show show. I thought it was a scheduled show, and
I know Maya coming out with a surprise, but I
thought that it was a scheduled show. I just thought
it was necess She took a moment, and you know,
Maya came out. We do have audio, but the crowd
is going so crazy you can barely hear Maya. I
mean we could play it, but I don't know how
well it's going to sound on their But yeah, there

(01:08:55):
was a big moment for them. So shout out to them,
you know, getting through this second stop and great to
see all of the you know people on stage this weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:09:01):
And I grew up to yeah to Maya, the Brandy
Monica Kelly like hell, yes, what is it for this.

Speaker 18 (01:09:10):
Hour of the Latest?

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Alrighty, thank you Lauren. Now we got donkey today, should man?
Who you give me your donkey?

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Two?

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
You know, every day of our lives we say we
wish it would when it comes to our children, But
what happens when it actually does happen?

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Is it worth it?

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
We'll discuss for after the hour.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
With the donkey.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
It's time for donkey donkeys around here.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
Yes, you are a donkey?

Speaker 16 (01:09:39):
What the hell.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Some donkey today's just saw themselves?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Oh man, Charlotte, Man, who you give them?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Don real to do your man?

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Donkey to the day for Monday, October twenty seven, goes
the forty three year old David Scott Junior.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Now I get on this radio every day and tell
you all to do your jail math. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Your jail math is when you find yourself in a
situation and you have to calculate whether or not you
can afford to do whatever time you will have to
do if you react.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
A certain way to such situation. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Everything has to be calculated, all right. The money you
will spend on bail if you even get one, The
money you will spend on a lawyer, Can you even
afford the time it will take to be arrested, process detained, etc.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Etc.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
You have to make all these calculations in your head
before you make certain decisions. Now, some of us have
decided that if someone ever harms our kids in any way,
we go into jail.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
And I too am in that number. Okay. But what
I need us parents to understand.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Is there is levels two reacting, Okay, is one before
you harm somebody being the highest. All right, our kids
are worth it all, but everything doesn't require you to
take it to one to Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Case in point, the story of David Scott Jr. From
East Point, Michigan right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
He was arrested after he allegedly threatened to shoot up
in elementary school because they was playing in his child's face.
I can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's go
to what's the day eighty c seven de traite for
the report.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
Please.

Speaker 30 (01:11:18):
Police say apparent at Pleasant View Elementary School got so
upset that his first grader didn't get snack time Wednesday
that he made threats to staff members during child pickup.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Who allegedly confronted the teacher and stated words to the
effect of I'll air this out and I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Be back tomorrow.

Speaker 30 (01:11:36):
That suspect, forty three year old David Scott Junior, shaking
his head at the allegations. In court Thursday for his arraignment.
He pleaded not guilty and his bond set at one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash surety due to a
criminal past. On Thursday, police added extra patrols to the
area and the school had only indoor recess as an

(01:11:56):
additional precaution. But that child's mother tells me there's more
to this story. Takeisha Walkin says their son has been
coming home from school hungry for weeks, overwhelmed by loud noises.
Sometimes he'll skip lunch, so snack time is sometimes the
only time he has to eat. So he's been coming
home hungry. But the school district told me there is

(01:12:16):
no official snack time. While the mother wasn't there at
pickup Wednesday, she does not believe the allegations against Scott Junior.

Speaker 24 (01:12:24):
I mean, yes, we get upset his parents and certain
things could have been said, but I do not believe
that that came out of his mouth.

Speaker 19 (01:12:31):
Guess what right I got this one?

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
Shut up?

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
No, okay, okay, it'll act like they don't be appropriating
our culture too.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
You don't know as it is, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Now, I did look it up on Urban Dictionary, though, okay,
just to be sure, and Urban Dictionary says airs this
bitch out is a term used by gangsters are really
mad hood people with guns.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
The example Urban Dictionary uses is jamal man f this,
I'm finsh ed this bitch out? Why Nita, damn you right,
let me grab my nine. It's safe to say that
Urban Dictionary is ran by people who wouldn't be considered urban.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
By the way, I hate the term urban, but that
site is clearly not ran by anyone from coaching. Now
David Scott Junior is saying he didn't say this. Okay,
I don't know if he did or not, but whatever
he said was enough to get him arrested. And I
just want my brothers to know that we don't always
have to take it to him. Okay, whatever then it
may be. And I also understand that this is a
lot of us brothers first.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
Time being fathers, and there is no manual for this thing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
But this is why smart people learn from their own mistakes,
and why people learn from the mistakes of others. We
must learn from David Scott Junior. Okay, you don't have
to threaten the teacher. You don't have to threaten to
shoot up the school, none of that. All right, Calmly, calmly,
request a meeting. Okay, request the meeting with the teacher,
our school administration to discuss your child not receiving a snack,

(01:13:58):
because when you're in this private setting, Okay, emotions are
less heightened.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
The right the teacher in school can explain.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
The snack policy are the fact that they may not
have a snack policy. Then both parties can find a solution.

Speaker 6 (01:14:10):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
This approach reduces conflict, it opens up communication, and it's
just always good to have a witness around so nobody
can say you said something you didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Another thing you can do, just always feel free to
gather information, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
Policy review, all right, that is very important. Sometimes we
just assume wrongdoing.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
But maybe David should have checked to see if the
school has an official snack policy, and then you would
know that this child isn't actually missing snack time. They
just don't, you know, have a snack policy. Okay, But
that's why you should always make a formal complaint. That's
another thing that you can do, all right, write or
submit a formal concern to the principal of school district.
All of these things are better than making alleged public threat. Okay,

(01:14:54):
because now you in jail, away from your child, and
now you got to fight a case. All right, I
need that could be going to your child's future, is
going to keeping you out of prison. This brother was
charged with possession of ammunition by a prohibited person.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Okay, that's a.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Five year felony, all right, our five thousand dollar find
He's also charged with an intentional threat to commit an
act of violence at a school. That's a misdemeanor one
thousand dollar find dis orderly I've seen conduct. And he's
an habitual offendom because this is his fourth offense. Three
previously committed crimes with drugs and weapons related and his
bond is one hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
And fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
Okay, so that's about fifteen thousand because you usually got
to pay ten percent.

Speaker 8 (01:15:34):
Calculate your jail math.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
People, calculate your jail math and always ask yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
Will it be worth it? Please give David Scott Jr.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
The biggest he huff no game.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
And this is also why you gotta, you know, be
like you know what, baby, you go down there and
handle it, because if I go down there and handle it,
I'm going to jail.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
I'm So you got to go turn to the baby
mama and say you go down there and handle it,
because if I go down there and handle it, I'm
going to jail.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
Some people not lying when they say that, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
I am all right, Well thank you for that donkey today, sir.
Now when we come back, Ryan, Yes, you.

Speaker 9 (01:16:18):
Said you didn't want to I don't want to why
because it is what obvious?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Yeah, what part was obvious?

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
That it is out? What prot was obvious?

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
Honestly, the whole story is the whole story. Yeah, yeah, Still,
we don't need to play.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Don't need to play, all right, all right, all right.
When we come back, Ryan Holiday will be joining us.
He has a new book, rights Shulo.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Yes man, Ryan Holiday one of my favorite authors. He
wrote books like Ego is the Enemy, The Obstacle is
the way. I read his daily stoic every day for
my daily affirmations. But he has a new book out
called Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat, Okay, and we'll
be here to talk to him when he comes back.

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
He'll be here to talk to us when we come back.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
All right, don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Everybody is dj Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we
are the Breakfast Club Lawn. The Rolls is here as well.
We got a special guest in the building, one of
my favorite authors ever. Yes, a new book, Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat,
Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Holiday, welcome back, Thanks for having me.
How are you feeling this morning.

Speaker 26 (01:17:28):
You're an awesome What book is this?

Speaker 6 (01:17:30):
Number one?

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Sixteen das fifth or six time he's been up here?

Speaker 26 (01:17:40):
Very good to me.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Yeah, now I we like having you man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
The wisdom takes work, learn, apply, repleat, repeat, And in
the book you argue that wisdom is the virtue on
which all other virtues depend.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
How did you arrive at that belief?

Speaker 26 (01:17:53):
So the four virtues of Stoke Foster try to write
about our courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom. They're all separate,
but they're related in that, you know, wisdom tells us
when and how to apply the others. I think if
you doesn't matter you know how good your heart is,
if you don't have the wisdom the intelligence to know

(01:18:14):
how to bring it into the world. Or you know,
courage is important, but you could be courageous for something
real dumb. So wisdom is the sort of layer on
top that we have to apply to all other skills
and assets.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Well, it's one thing to do to research with their
specific moment in your life that made you realize it.

Speaker 26 (01:18:33):
I think we've all met some smart people that do
dumb things, and I think we've all done dumb things,
and you look at you look at wisdom as being
the sort of the key to not just a successful life,
but a good life. Right you can you can be
really good at what you do and then you can
blow it all up, or you can be profoundly unhappy,

(01:18:55):
or you know how many smart people are lacking in
self awareness. So I just think wisdom is this a
piece that brings it all together. And I think I
think one of the problems is that we assume wisdom
is this thing that just happens right we go. Sure,
school is important, but you know, experience is important. You
know wisdom comes with age, not It's no guarantee. I've

(01:19:16):
met a lot of.

Speaker 6 (01:19:16):
Dumb old people too.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Absolutely, I was always talking small people learn from the almostakes.
Wise people learn from mistakes of others. I completely agree
that wisdom is a lost art. I think you have
a lot of smart people. I don't think you have
a lot of wise people nowadays.

Speaker 26 (01:19:29):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean you need this not just
to be successful, as I was saying, but like, how
do you not fall for demagogues or how do you
not fall for scams? How do you rise above the noise?
How do you separate fact from fiction? Wisdom I think
is you know that there's this word discernment, right, the
art of discernment, Like how many people can really see

(01:19:51):
the difference between good and really good, you know, right
and almost right, truth and complete nonsense? That to me
is the missing skill of our time.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
We doom, so back it.

Speaker 29 (01:20:01):
Up, going we're doing?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
Yes, we are no.

Speaker 21 (01:20:03):
I think.

Speaker 24 (01:20:04):
I think everybody eventually has something in their life that
wakes them up to that, whether it's at a different
like might be young, might be older, but you always
taught you always thought that like wisdom comes with age.

Speaker 18 (01:20:14):
Yes that saying so you probably hate.

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
That, saying huh yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:20:18):
Churchill was joking about this guy he didn't like, and
he said, uh that. Although he occasionally stumbled over the truth,
he quickly picked himself up and carried on as if
nothing had happened. Right, So people are I think life
is always teaching you, right, but you don't have to
hear it, and so life will sometimes whisper life. Life
will tell you nicely things that you need to know,

(01:20:40):
and then when we ignore that, it becomes louder and
louder and louder, until sometimes you know, you have to
learn from some kind of catastrophic failure or catastrophe. And
so you know your point that we can learn from
the experiences of others, that's the cheap, effective, efficient way

(01:21:00):
to do it, and then a lot of us go, no, no,
I'd rather figure it out on my own, and that
that costs not just them, but the people around them,
like the when we're late to learning lessons, that doesn't
just affect us, but that affects the people that work
for us, That affects our family, that affects the people
who you know, bear the consequences of that, you know,
painful lesson that we chose to learn the hard way.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
I think wisdom has to come from age though sure, regardless,
I mean, regardless of what the part. You can meet
a stupid old person, yeah, but there is some wisdom
that comes from what they're doing, whether if they work
at a plant, whether they whatever they do at the house,
there is some type of wisdom that they can continue
on to give to somebody else.

Speaker 26 (01:21:40):
Well, you know, the root of the word idiot is
somebody in ancient Greece who did not participate in public life.
So you know, you can read everything you want, and
you can read a lot, and that'll make you smarter
than the average person. But if you're not engaged and involved,
you're going to miss some things that you can only

(01:22:01):
learn from experience. You know, Da Vinci would sign his
letters a disciple of experience. You have to learn by doing.
You have to put yourself out there. And that's why
I say it's learn, applied, repeat, So you learn the
things you hear, the lessons you study, you go to school,
then you got to go out in the world and

(01:22:21):
you find that a lot of what you learn now
has to be applied, or a lot of what you
learned you didn't actually understand it. And then you repeat
that cycle over and over and over again each time
that that's a positive feedback loop that's making you smarter
and better.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
And they talk about educational a lot of people. I'm
seeing this a lot more, more and more and more
that people are not necessarily wanting to go to college. Sure,
they feel like the education that they get in college
they can be taught more through life experiences. And they
feel like the wisdom that those professors have might be outdated.
Sure what they're teaching. What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 26 (01:22:58):
Well, Look, I'm a proud college so I'm all about it.
There is and always has been a difference between school
and education. So I think the problem is if you
don't know what you're trying to do, how do you
know what the best form of schooling or education is
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
I said that all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:23:16):
By the way, I think it's stupid that we force
kids to get out of high school to say, go
to college and.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Pick a major immediately when they don't necessarily know what
they want to do. If you know what you want
to do, that's great. But there's been times where kids
would like, I don't know, Like, don't make me pick
a major and make me take these courses if I
don't necessarily know what I want to do in life.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
And that's the way when we live in a world
where we're kind of preparing for a future that won't
even exist for the AI going to be having other
jobs anyway.

Speaker 26 (01:23:40):
Well, look, spending a couple hundred thousand dollars over four
years is an expensive way to figure out what you
want to do, absolutely, especially if at the end of
it you find out that what you want to do
is something that didn't require college for me. I met
Robert Green, our mutual friend and then I realized that's
what I wanted to do. And then I said, well,

(01:24:00):
am I going to keep going to college or am
I going to go directly learn from the person who's
done it. So I'm a big believer in apprenticeships and mentorships.
You got to find your teachers. Sometimes those are college professors,
sometimes their business executives, sometimes their you know, your neighbor
down the street. But you got to find who can
teach you how to do what you want to do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
And when when you started off as an apprentice with
Robert Green, one of the first things he puts you
on with forty a power.

Speaker 26 (01:24:28):
No, I've worked on the fiftieth Law. Fiftie Like the
first thing I did was transcribe before in a world
before AI. I transcribed hours and hours of interviews between
him and fifty and so that was part of my
education is just listening, not just listening to it, but
having to painstakingly type it all out. And so I
got this masterclass and not just you know how he worked,

(01:24:49):
but all the people around him. But what I was
actually learning was like how you put a book together?
And Robert showed me how to research a book and
how to write and then how to operate in the industry.
You want to find the people who are further ahead
in what you want to do and do it. Although,
to be fair, like in college, I think one of
the most professors are professionals in what they do. They're

(01:25:09):
not just teachers, They're researchers, they're experts, they're you know,
they had a previous experience where they did the thing.
And you know, every every week they have office hours
where they have to sit there and meet with the
students and nobody comes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
So I thought.

Speaker 26 (01:25:25):
The crazy thing for me is like I didn't go
into the library at my college until after I dropped
out and I was writing my first book because I
was like, oh wait, this is an incredible free resource
that I was too busy, you know, doing the college
kid thing to take advantage of. So all this stuff
is there, it's just you got to be self directed
and self motivated.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
Well, another claim you make in the book, you say,
cultivating wisdom requires mental struggle and there's no shortcut for that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
So what does mental struggle look like from a practical sense.

Speaker 26 (01:25:54):
Well, look, like books are basically free, you know, you
can get them from the library. The amount of wisdom
in a book is incredibly cheap, but it still takes work.
You got to wrestle with the book. You gotta read it,
you got to put the time in. It's not just
the struggle to you know, make the time to do

(01:26:15):
the work, to read, to go to class, whatever. But
then it's also wrestling with big questions like if you
think life is black and white, if you think it's easy,
if you think everyone is trying to tell you the
truth all the time, I think again, you're going to
find yourself pretty vulnerable. So it is struggle. It's a
it's a battle. It's a battle against ignorance, it's a
battle against misinformation, it's a it's a battle against your

(01:26:37):
your own biases. I think one of the things the
stoics remind us is that, like your mind is not
always your friend. We all have prejudices, we all have biases,
we all have mental shortcuts that we do that that
prevent ego being another one that gets in the way
of us learning and seeing what we need to see.
So you've got to struggle against your yourself too.

Speaker 24 (01:27:00):
X With your books, it seems like your target or
your goal is to allow people to think freely, but
like have an educated like base that they're pulling from. Yeah,
how hard is it be coming for you to go
around teaching all of this in this like time with
this administration. I saw the thing that happened with you
at the Naval base and canceling your lecture that you do.

Speaker 26 (01:27:18):
Yeah, I've been doing a series of lectures at the
Naval Academy on the Cardinal virtue for the last four years,
and the last one was canceled. I was supposed to
lecture about wisdom, and I was going to talk about
Admiral James Stockdale was a famous graduate there who famously
took a course on Marxism at Stanford before he was
shot down in Vietnam and sent to a Marxist prison.

(01:27:40):
And the idea is, like, you want to learn from
the enemy, You want to understand what they think, or
else you're vulnerable to brainwashing and propaganda. Actually, Seneca, the
Stoke philosopher, said this. He said, we want to study
like a spy in the enemy's camp. So I was
supposed to give this lecture, and like a couple weeks
before I went, started removing books from the library at

(01:28:03):
orders of the Secretary of Defense and the President because
they were too woke or pro DEI and I own
a bookstore. I can't get up there and give a
lecture about wisdom as they're literally removing books from a
library as so I was going to mention it, and
they found out, and they said, look, if you got

(01:28:24):
to remove those slides and you can't come talk here. Hey,
And this is one of the elite universities in this country.
These are people who someday are going to be piloting
fighter jets or aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines like these
are these cannot be sensitive little snowflakes, or we're in
big trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
These are people who.

Speaker 26 (01:28:40):
Are gonna not just have to make highly complex technical decisions,
but profoundly ethical and moral questions. And yet here we
are protecting them, not just from from from you know,
protect potentially political books. But Maya Angelou's Memoirs was one
of the books that they that they removed, probably because

(01:29:00):
no one in excess office has read it, knows anything
about it. Probably chat GPT told him it was a
woke book, so we wanted to remove it. So I
felt I couldn't do that. And that's by the way
where all the virtues are interrelated, because it's not just
knowing that that book banning is stupid and reckless and dangerous.
But then I have to decide, you know, do I

(01:29:21):
want to preserve my access or do I want to
say what I think is true? And also do you
want the you know, Secretary of Defense to be mad
at you. That's where courage comes in, but then also justice, like, hey,
it's the right thing, so you do the right thing.
But yeah, we are we are in a dangerous moment.
Do you know the word cacistocracy? So like oligarchy, democracy,

(01:29:45):
different types of governmental system, cacistocracy is government by the stupidest.
And that's what we are facing in this moment. People
who are who are not just not smart, but actively
afraid of and angry at and resentful of people who
have competence and knowledge because they're fundamentally threatened by it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
So we have to replace the term idiocracy.

Speaker 26 (01:30:10):
Then, yeah, I mean idiocracy. It's a similar way to
say the same thing. Okay, But I mean I don't
think the American people are that stupid. I think we
are in a moment where we have elected a number
of officials who are actively stupid and deliberately ignorant.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
And what you said is interesting. You said they're resentful
of people who are smart, And to me, I'm like,
I don't think they don't. I don't think they believe
anybody's actually smarter than him.

Speaker 26 (01:30:36):
There's a hilarious list of all the people that Trump
has said he is smarter than and it's like basically
everyone that's ever existed.

Speaker 6 (01:30:44):
Yeah, but it's this idea that.

Speaker 26 (01:30:46):
Like, my feelings are more true or stronger than your expertise.
So it's this antipathy towards expertise, credentialism and look like
the experts are wrong all the time. I'm not saying
that flawless, but but like you don't want to be
driving the smartest, most qualified, most experienced people out of

(01:31:08):
the armedforces, out of the government, out of business. And
that's the sort of bent that we're on. It's going
to end very very badly.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Oh listen, I want to ask you about that, distant
if do you think the political climate made them feel
that way, Because for the last ten years, all the
political pundits and the strategist they've just been wrong.

Speaker 26 (01:31:27):
They have been wrong, like and that that you know,
this idea of negative capability. Negative capability is the idea
can you can you hold two opposing ideas in your head. So,
on the one hand, the experts are wrong a lot.
On the other hand, expertise is still really important. So
you can't throw the baby out with the bath art.
So you got to go, hey, why were the experts

(01:31:48):
wrong about this, that or the other. What biases or
tendencies do they have that you've got to protect against?
And at the same time, you got to elect qualified people.
You don't go, so, hey, that guy talks about the
military on Fox News on the weekends. Let's put him
in charge of the most powerful military in the world.

(01:32:09):
I mean, he's not even qualified to be the spokesperson
for the Pentagon, let alone running the Pentagon. And so
you got to go, hey, here's what I believe, here's
what I think is important. And then still respect, you know, wisdom, intelligence, credentials, experience.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
I want to ask you, what role is listening more
than talking play When you're in like a culturally diverse setting,
or when you're sitting with somebody with a different ideology
and you're listening to them.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
Yeah, but at some point you might be like, what
else wrong with some bullet you just keep listening to
you in a.

Speaker 26 (01:32:42):
Jagular But that is that idea of negative capability is
like realizing, for instance, I have to think about this
with my kids. My kids are never wrong about their
feelings because they're their feelings. Now I might feel differently,
it might not change. Hey, you got to go to school,
you got to do X, Y or Z. But like

(01:33:03):
your opinion is your opinion. And so I think what
strong people are able to do, resilient people are able
to do, wise people are able to do is understand
that people feel differently about different things, have different opinions
about different things, and to be interested and curious about
that without necessarily changing your mind all the time. So

(01:33:26):
I think diversity is strength in the sense that you
want to bring as many different opinions and viewpoints and
worldviews into the equation. But at the end of the day,
you do have to decide what you think, what you feel,
what you're going to do. Especially in a position of leadership,
the leader ultimately has to listen to everyone and then

(01:33:46):
make and own the decision what.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
It is based on what their opinions are based off of,
meaning your opinion or how you're feeling could be a
certain way, yep, but if it's based off with some
bulls that's not true, then you're feeling is kind of wrong.

Speaker 26 (01:33:59):
And I think that's our album with Expertise is people
are like, well, but I don't want that to be true,
and it's like, okay, that's great and I respect that
you don't like it, but it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Well Ryan, Holiday, ladies and gentlemen. New book Wisdom takes work, Learn, apply, reply, repeat.
It's available right now, and thank you for joining us.

Speaker 6 (01:34:17):
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Thank you time bringing some chocolate milk from a brown cow.

Speaker 26 (01:34:22):
I do have a brown cow. It does not make
chocolate milk.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
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be coming straight fast.

Speaker 8 (01:34:34):
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Speaker 18 (01:34:37):
I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
She'd be having the latest on you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
It's the latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you
have a little bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
On the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 24 (01:34:53):
Okay, so before we get into more news, I wanted
to go back to our Brandy Monica. Just to answer
your question about whether it was an added date because
of what happened with Brandy. So I spoke to a
black promoter's collective, who are the promoters around this tour,
and they said that it wasn't added because of what
happened with Brandy. It was already added prior to Brandy
in that first tour stop and her not being able
to finish because of the demand there. Yeah, because of

(01:35:15):
the demand there, they added that, and they added a
few other dates in other places as well as well
too because of the demand. And I did ask them
because when Monica performed no Monica, Maya performed yesterday, there
was such a huge response to it. Of course, anytime
you see miamniwhere but people want her as a part
of the tour. And you know they yes, I asked,
you know, were their conversations on that now? Because Money Long,

(01:35:38):
which is who Maya stepped up for, put mention that
she had pneumonia, which is why she had to step away.
So I was wondering if there was going to be
more dates where we could see Maya And they say,
as of right now, no. They go back on stage
on the twenty ninth and Detroit, And as of right now,
Money Long is supposed to be well and be there.

Speaker 18 (01:35:54):
But if not, you know, it's not off the table.

Speaker 24 (01:35:56):
And the people love Maya and they say they felt
the response and they hear the fans.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
That's not fair to comparing money along the Maya though.
And the reason I say it's not fair is because
you already have a nostalgic tour, right because you've got Monica,
you got Brandy, you got Kelly Rolers. So the people
that are coming there are probably people that are into
that nostalgia that era, and when you put Maya on
there over Money Long, of course they're gonna vibrate with Maya.

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
Yes more I feel like too.

Speaker 24 (01:36:20):
There was conversations because Coco Jones is on this tour
as well too, and she has been doing Yeah, she's
been doing she's only on certain dates. She's been doing
a great job on the dates where she showed up.
But they were having, you know, the conversations around that too,
like why do we have to get the R and
B singers from various times? Why not just everybody from
one era? And it's like you kind of you want

(01:36:41):
to do that because you want to, you know, build
out a full show and have openers and all the things,
but you know it's kind of you can't compare it
to so you gotta let the younger girls get on
stage and you know put in their work as well too.

Speaker 18 (01:36:51):
So again, I just want to answer that question for you.

Speaker 9 (01:36:53):
Thanks.

Speaker 24 (01:36:54):
Now, in other news, we should have this in now,
Kamala Harris is talking about whether or not she will
be running for president again, and surprisingly she gave us
a positive update.

Speaker 18 (01:37:07):
Let's say a listen, because of.

Speaker 7 (01:37:08):
Your baby nieces, Amara and Leela, when are they going
to see a woman in charge in the White House
in their lifetime?

Speaker 16 (01:37:14):
For sure?

Speaker 9 (01:37:15):
Could it be you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Possibly?

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
Have you made a decision yet? No, I have not,
But you say in your book I'm not done.

Speaker 19 (01:37:22):
That is correct.

Speaker 10 (01:37:23):
I am not done. I have lived my entire career
a life of service and it's in my bones and
there are many ways to serve. I've not decided yet
what I will do in the future beyond what I
am doing right now, but.

Speaker 7 (01:37:37):
You've been very clear that it's a possibility you might
run again to become president. And in my experience interviewing politicians,
when someone says I'm not done. It means they are
thinking seriously about running.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
But when you look at the bookies' odds, they put
you as.

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
An outsider, even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Is that
underestimating you?

Speaker 10 (01:37:55):
I say, there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to polls.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Did she said the book yards That sounds crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
You know, you know, just you complimented me on these archers.
I walked in this morning and our produced what's that
called orchids? Yes, orchids? Yeah, somebody bought this this orchid?

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
Is it a orchid? Orchids?

Speaker 18 (01:38:14):
All right, just get through. We know you struggled with somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Our producer, Eddie bought this orchid in for me. And
when I read the card, Uh, these are from Kamala Harris.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
Oh, that's amazing that orchids are really really former Vice
president Kamala Harris.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
Please, I said, form of vice Well I didn't say.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
That, but we thought you're going to read the card
you open the car, person.

Speaker 9 (01:38:32):
But that's an amazing You get orches from somebody is
special to you or it is not like an ordinary
fly let.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Me, Google, can you move the orchid?

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
In front of justice face because the camera shines right ones.
You know, I can't see thank you, thank you?

Speaker 18 (01:38:44):
Well yeah, so this has been commalis uh dang jess.

Speaker 9 (01:38:49):
He was helping them through.

Speaker 6 (01:38:50):
It was symbolized luxury, love and beauty.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yes, and they last for.

Speaker 9 (01:38:55):
A long time, they live for a long time.

Speaker 16 (01:38:58):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:38:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:38:59):
So this was Kamala speaking with BBC and the reason,
I mean, it's Kamala Harris of course going to pick
up but people are picking this up as her strongest
answer to date on whether she won her president or
not because of the possibly So there is that, but
she said she not done exactly. Now in other news,
I'm gonna take it back to the HBCU homecoming vibes,
and we know I saw Kamala Harris too posted over

(01:39:20):
the weekend and shout with out Howard University where she
was a student because of the homecoming feeling. Now, ari
Ari Fletcher, who is money Bag Yell's girlfriend and influencer online,
she posted something that started a conversation. She says, why
are grown adults at college homecoming?

Speaker 9 (01:39:37):
Is that normal?

Speaker 24 (01:39:38):
I'm genuinely asking because I didn't go to a big
college that did stuff like that. But it seems so
off I thought that was for the kids in school.

Speaker 18 (01:39:45):
I thought that was an event for the kids in school.

Speaker 24 (01:39:48):
So she doesn't understand why alumnis attend homecoming.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
You know, it could be interesting about that if she
would have just left it at Is that normal? Let
somebody answer as opposed to giving her opinion.

Speaker 8 (01:40:00):
I'm genuinely asked.

Speaker 9 (01:40:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:40:02):
So yeah, yeah, Well people were very offended and she
came back and.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
Signed it, and I know they went crazy on Facebook.

Speaker 24 (01:40:09):
I was like, you probably was on the yard stepping
to some money back, ye know, just because Yeah, so
she had to come back and say y'all offended because
I made y'all feel old.

Speaker 18 (01:40:20):
I was just asking big and mad literally.

Speaker 24 (01:40:23):
So yeah, people got upset because her, Like, first of all,
we can we're allowed to be here age wise. Is
nothing unnormal about that? And secondly, if you don't know,
you should ask somebody before you put that out there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
People are just they were mad because she sounds crazy,
not because they're old. And she's ever been to a homecoming.
I'm sure she's been booked for a lot of them.
There's so many different age groups when it comes to homecoming,
and like me, and Charlemaine was saying behind the scenes,
the reason a lot of these schools are open, a
reason a lot of these students get scholarships because depending

(01:40:54):
their dudes, they making sure that those schools stay afloat.
So but that is a lot of the reason why
even even though and Il deals a lot of these
HBCUs but players are able to get some money.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
That is the reason why.

Speaker 9 (01:41:03):
But I will say, you know, she's the events that
she hosts during homecoming, if any at all would be
for the Yonder crowd, that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
She would not be.

Speaker 9 (01:41:14):
Yeah, that's probably why she probably.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Pays for alumni, probably pays.

Speaker 24 (01:41:18):
Right, which is something that she needs to be a
learning lesson. Though not in even a negative way. I
think that HBCU culture college campus culture is unless you
experience it, you don't know everything.

Speaker 11 (01:41:28):
There's nothing wrong with her, It's just not HBCU culture.
This is all colleges and most.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
You could talk Harvard, you could talk Saint John's. It
doesn't matter. The alumni is usually what funds that school
to stay afloat.

Speaker 24 (01:41:38):
Well, area will be back on the campus and she
will now understand when she sees that, you know, like.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
That the alumni events look like they be more fire.
But I'm forty sevens and don't listen to me. But
the alumni events look like they be more fire any God.

Speaker 18 (01:41:52):
Damn, such a great time.

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
They dress up. They get it man, that the seasoned
women be dropping in low.

Speaker 18 (01:41:58):
Yeah, you can tell us the one that prairie and
this is looking beautiful. Let mean okay. Envy took me
to Hampton for my first time ever over the weekend.

Speaker 24 (01:42:07):
They had set up like sections like Jess you could
go and get bottle service, like on the football field,
and it was like multiple different sponsored ones.

Speaker 18 (01:42:17):
I've never seen a setup like that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:19):
Sounds very grown up, very alarm don.

Speaker 24 (01:42:29):
Homecoming out in the yard with your with your red cup,
and I never seen it was like the buffet was
laid out.

Speaker 18 (01:42:35):
It was a great setup.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
I took, that's all to take I took.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
I took him through the process of the students party,
to wear, the twenty year old's party, to the thirties,
to the forties, to the fifties. I took her to
the process so she can see everything. She came excited.

Speaker 9 (01:42:50):
She was saying like Hampton was one of the best
homecomings that she'd ever went to.

Speaker 8 (01:42:54):
She ain't even want to go.

Speaker 9 (01:42:55):
I mean we didn't want to leave hamp is what
she said.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
I was over.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
Then we went to Norfolk after because she was hosting
at Norfolk State.

Speaker 24 (01:43:01):
So I an amazing melumni. FA Lloyd performed and people
were so excited to see Envy. They love you guys
that people always tek me about you guys whenever I'm somewhere,
So shout out to the homecomings and all the things,
and shout out to you know, a We'll see her
at somewhere next year.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
Well that is the latest with Lauren. Let's get to
the mix. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Good Morning.

Speaker 9 (01:43:24):
I'm better than.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
Cause you know, I know, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:43:35):
Morning.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Everybody is DJ Envy, just hilarious, Charlamagne the gud We
are the Breakfast Club. I'm out in Dominique. I'm coming
back tomorrow morning, so I'll be back in the show
in studio tomorrow. But i just want to salute to
everybody out here. I mean, they welcomed me like no
other Uh. They you know, took me all through this
this this island and taught me about the island. This

(01:43:55):
island is like a nature island. So it's amazing it's
not really been quote unquote as they say it. It's
very like so many trees, like it's it's so many
rivers and so many what are they call it, hot.

Speaker 9 (01:44:07):
Springs, three hundred and sixty five rivers and b.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
That's right, talk that talk. But it was just an
amazing event. So I just want to salute to the
tourism board.

Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Salute they had a huge Creole festival.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
It was like probably sixty seventy artists performing, from Bob's
Cartel to Spice to Tea Savage. There's just so many artists.
So I just want to say thank you for having me.
Salute to Marfa, Salute to Daffing for having me. I
know it was a tough way to get me here,
but we actually got me here. So I just want
to say thank you. I enjoyed it and I'll definitely

(01:44:38):
be back.

Speaker 6 (01:44:39):
That's beautiful, man. I'm glad that you are getting in
touch with your roots.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
And it's Dominique is not Dominique, the Dominican Republic. People
are mad at you about that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
They was like, tell Seana Man that he is not
from Dominican Republic, Dominique.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
To be clear, y'all don't realize how much Envy has
claimed to be a Dominican all of these Yeah, I
do so you can get awards parties.

Speaker 8 (01:44:59):
He was.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
We had a float at the Dominican Parade.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Float.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Okay, nbi there beefing with Puerto Ricans as a Dominican,
just to try to.

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
Get an extra check. Because God diabolical man, you got
I'm telling.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
You, my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Now you're out in South Carolina, Rushila.

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
I was in South Carolina this weekend.

Speaker 10 (01:45:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
It was the University of South Carolina's homecoming. You know
that's my wife's alma materas Houston cheerlead for the University
of South Carolina. And I was also there on Friday,
uh the Icon living Don Staley, I moderated a conversation
about her book Uncommon Favor, which I had the privilege
of publishing earlier this year, has been on the New
York Times Bestsellers list for weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:45:35):
So sooth everybody who came out to the Colonial Life
Arena to watch me in.

Speaker 5 (01:45:39):
Conversation with Don Staley as well as Asia Wilson Okay,
four time w NBA MVP, three time WNBA Champion. It
was crazy because I've done a lot of interviews in
my life, but sitting between Don and Asia and the
arena that they made famous, I was sitting there like damn.

Speaker 6 (01:45:56):
Both of these women got statues.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
A block of part in this beautiful city that we
all love called Columbia, South Carolina. So you know that
different was top That interview was top tier for me.
So Saluthor, Asia Wilson and Don Staley.

Speaker 26 (01:46:08):
That's amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:46:09):
And your girl Jos Hilarious will be in Charlotte, North
Carolina this Friday and this Saturday coming up, and then
I will be giving away I keep repeating, I will
be giving away a cash prize to the person who
shows up with the best Halloween cost tome on. So
get your tickets now if you haven't yet. Just Larious
official dot com. I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina this weekend.

(01:46:29):
We got four shows, two on Friday, two on Saturday.
Just Alaras Official dot com. I love you, Charlotte, can't
wait to see you all Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
All right, well, Charlotte, you got a positive note.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I do man Saluthor Ryan Holiday for showing up today.
Saluthor one twelve total in case as well, make sure
you go check out that what's the name of the
tour Room one twelve, The Room one twelve tour that
they're all on right now. But Sluthor Ryan Holiday, he's
got a new book out with them, Taste, Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat,
And I want to say one of the quotes from
the book because I love this quote. The good thing

(01:46:58):
about not being an expert about something is that it's
a solvable problem. But ignorance, if you choose, can be
a temporary state. Okay, expertise is merely a function of
your interests, your teachers, and your drives. So basically what
he's saying is there's nothing that you cannot learn, So ignorance,
if you choose, can be a temporary state.

Speaker 6 (01:47:18):
Have a great day, breakfast club, bitches, you gonna finished
or y'all done.

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